Drinking Liberally — Seattle


Please join us tonight for an evening of politics under the influence at the Seattle chapter of Drinking Liberally. We meet at the Montlake Ale House, 2307 24th Avenue E.. We start at 8:00 pm, and sometimes even earlier for dinner.

And now we learn the Rep. Fred Upton (R-MI), the new head of the House energy committee, denies a role for man in climate change. For tonight’s DL roundtable chat, we will ponder the question, “just how many of these stoopid fucking anti-science shit-fer-brains Wingdings are there out there, anyway?”

Not in Seattle? There is a good chance you live near one of the 211 other chapters of Drinking Liberally.


  1. 1

    Jimbo spews:

    Discuss this dumbasses–
    Need to demand more from Public Schools..not just blindly vote YES on levies “for the children”.
    This just out–
    A 2009 comparison between public and Catholic school SAT scores show that public school students had an overall average of 496 points on the critical reading portion of the test while Catholic school students scored 533 points on the same portion. What makes the numbers more impressive is that Catholic high schools spend more than $2,000 less per pupil than public schools.
    Over 7% better scores for $2,000/pupil less.
    Yet we are mean-spirited to demand more for our tax dollars.

  2. 2

    Proud to be an Ass spews:

    @1. Fuck you. This is the wrong thread, dumbass.

    If I were allowed to cherry pick students, I could get even better results than that, you stupid fuck.

  3. 3

    proud leftist spews:

    Damn, where do these people come from? They haven’t the slightest idea about cause-and-effect. Yet, they think they are geniuses.

  4. 8

    Chuckie Schumer and the 3 branches of gubmint spews:


    problem is that the far left and the far right have fucked everything up for the rest of us.

    and as far as the schools are concerned: there isnt a motherfucker in here that would not send their kids to a private school if they could afford it.

    anybody who says different is a bullshitter.

  5. 10

    Michael spews:

    We could send my niece to private schools (I live with my sister and niece, her Republican ex-husband has little to do with his own kid and routinely cheats on child support), but the public schools in Gig Harbor are every bit as good, if not better, than the private ones. If we lived in Yakima or Buffalo we might look at private schools, but we’d probably just look at moving somewhere with better public schools.

    The problem with what Jimbo’s saying @1 is that public schools have costs and responsibilities that catholic schools don’t have.

  6. 11

    Jimbo spews:

    What a bunch of whining excuses for a failing system. Lots of people could afford to send their kids to better schools. But they would rather spend money on themselves for stupid stuff.
    When you see the evidence and still prioritize vacations, nice cars, high tech crap, big screen tv’s and other non-essential shit…then say you can’t afford it, you are a loooooooser of a parent.

  7. 12

    Michael spews:


    problem is that the far left and the far right have fucked everything up for the rest of us.

    That the right tends to paint everyone on the left as far left is a problem. Go over to (un)Sound Politics or Fox News and everyone in Seattle and Portland are Evil Commies That Are Killing America. Well, if they’re all ECTAKA’s why is everyone moving to Seattle and Portland? It’s nonsense. We have a far right in America that’s fairly small, but it’s active, vocal, and wields a lot of power. The far left in America is far smaller than the far right, doesn’t have much of a voice, and has no power.

    Contrary to what you hear from the right Obama, Mike McGinn, and Goldy aren’t members of the far left.

    The Right needs to stop lying about the left. The far left is powerless and voiceless. It wouldn’t suck if the media folks called out the right on this lie every now and again, either.

  8. 13

    Michael spews:


    What a bunch of whining excuses for a failing system.

    What failing system? My nieces and nephews all go to great public schools.

  9. 14

    Chuckie Schumer and the 3 branches of gubmint spews:

    True Michael…Gig Harbor does have good schools.

  10. 15

    Chuckie Schumer and the 3 branches of gubmint spews:


    The left does the same thing.

    Anybody who is even slightly conservative or who doesnt tow the leftist line is automatically a far right wingnut.

    both sides do it…and whats even worse, the talking heads on FOX, PMSNBC, the now defunct air america and the like, do it the most, and all they care about is getting PAID.

    people forget they are entertainers who are just there for the MONEY.

  11. 16

    Chuckie Schumer and the 3 branches of gubmint spews:


    goldy isnt anything…he is just here/there to satisfy his own ego and (hopefully) someday cash in.

    nothing worse than a down-on-his-luck narcissist.

  12. 17


    Dick Wadhams, Republican of Colorado, bless his heart:

    “I have loved being chairman, but I’m tired of the nuts who have no grasp of what the state party’s role is,” he said.
    … His departure leaves state Sen. Ted Harvey of Highlands Ranch as the front-runner in the March 26 chairmanship race, although Republicans now expect other candidates to jump in. Harvey could not be reached for comment.
    Wadhams referred to Harvey in his letter to the state Central Committee announcing he was dropping out of the race but did not mention the lawmaker by name.
    “I have tired of those who are obsessed with seeing conspiracies around every corner and who have terribly misguided notions of what the role of the state party is while saying ‘uniting conservatives’ is all that is needed to win competitive races across the state,” Wadhams wrote.

    LMAO!!! It’s always fun when it’s right wingers gone wild time!


  13. 20

    ld spews:

    For all you Debt Doesn’t matter believers, here is Bernanke’s take on it!

    As in the past, Bernanke probably won’t endorse a specific legislative approach for cutting the deficits. But he’ll likely again warn Congress and the White House that failing to forge a plan to reduce deficits over the long term could hurt the economy later.

    Persistent budget deficits will prompt investors to demand higher yields on government debt, causing interest rates to soar, Bernanke has said. Higher borrowing costs would crimp spending by consumers and businesses, slowing economic activity, he’s warned.

  14. 21

    ld spews:

    And as the Chinese stock market investors, and bond investors alike are finding out,

    Chinese shares lead global retreat after rate hike

    While China’s monetary authorities were raising interest rates again, property stocks took a pounding in Shanghai and in Hong Kong.

    So keep piling on the debt, and when no one will buy it any more, let me know how all your investments fare

  15. 22

    ld spews:

    Results from an auction of 10-year Notes are due at 1:00 PM ET. The benchmark Note is currently up modestly after its yield ascended to a nine-month high yesterday.

  16. 23


    (ld)iot – How did this country solve the debt problem after WWII?? AFAIK, we’re not in that kind of Debt/GDP world of hurt.

    Oh yeah, they raised taxes on the rich to 90+ percent. Nevermind..

  17. 24

    rhp6033 spews:

    I’m not surprised that Catholic Schools would have higher test scores than public schools. What surprises me is that some wingnuts here think that sending everyone to private schools, or making public schools exactly like private schools, would have the same effect.

    As pointed out before, all private schools (including Catholic schools) have the right to pick and choose their students. If someone is too much trouble, they just send them elsewhere – back to the public schools.

    Catholic school financing is not the same as public school financing. With public schools, you have a pretty good indicator of the total cost per student based on the public budget. With Catholic schools, it isn’t quite so easy. Regular church contributors get tuition breaks not available to students from families outside of the church. Some Catholic schools regularly use nuns, etc. to teach or perform administration, who are doing so under a vow of poverty and are essentially volunteer labor.

    In other words, apples and oranges.

  18. 25

    Chuckie Schumer and the 3 branches of gubmint spews:

    dumb ass YLBasement forgets who is holding our debt(and who we keep having to borrow more from) and fails to make the connection on why we cant negotiate any good trade deals…

    but hey, debt’s not that bad….

    fucking fool.

  19. 26

    Tim spews:

    @10 So Michael, why are you dissing the schools on the East side of the state. For a loser that lives with his sister, you have a lot of guts. I guess that teaching morality and being completely self supporting is a bad thing. Try that with a public school district. Why have only 55% of the 10th grade met WSAL math scores for the last 3 years?

  20. 27

    Tim spews:

    @24 find me a good number of nuns, etc that provide a significant effort for Catholic schools. And how do the other private schools do it? It is with strong parental involvement, a dedication to the school from the families. Give the private schools that same amount of money that the public schools get, and we would see the difference. And how about levies, that are additional funds that are given to public schools by the voters, both those who have children in private, as well as those who have children in public schools.

  21. 28

    Don Joe spews:

    @ 19

    Private Schools create people who can actually think for themselves,

    @ 20

    For all you Debt Doesn’t matter believers, here is Bernanke’s take on it!

    When you can argue against something other than creatures made entirely of straw, then get back to us about this notion of thinking for yourself.

  22. 29

    Chuckie Schumer and the 3 branches of gubmint spews:


    what a crock of shit of excuses.

    You chide “wingnuts” for wanting to emulate a PROVEN model of success…… yet its leftnuts like yourself just want to continually throw more and more money at public schools and end up with worse and worse results….and better yet, you run away from ANY accountability when it comes to school performance. same old fucking same old from the liberals who have wrecked public schooling for the last 40 years.

    now compare those two paradigms, and you tell me, who is the fool chasing his own ass and cant figure out why he keeps coming up empty.

  23. 31

    Chuckie Schumer and the 3 branches of gubmint spews:

    @30 YLBrainless, you arent even on the same subject, no wonder you dont have a clue about the economy.

    go get a job loser….jerking off all day long to internet porn and political blogs is no way to run your life.

  24. 32


    you arent even on the same subject

    zzzzzZZZZZ… Yeah. A moron like you whose head is a freaking sieve can’t possibly comprehend the level of debt this country had after WWII in relation to it’s gross domestic product and compare that to today. It’s just too difficult for your dumb ass.

    Stroke that silly pop gun of yours if it makes you feel better.

  25. 33

    Chuckie Schumer and the 3 branches of gubmint spews:


    poor YLBasement is still stuck trying to compare 1945 to 2011……

    I doubt it would do any good trying to explain the differences.

    yet another in the long line of old, failed arguments from the debt-deniers.

    Keep that head buried in the sand….

  26. 34


    33 – LMAO! And a pitiful right wing chickenshit know-it-all can’t see that debt is debt whether it is incurred in 1945 or today. Either you have too much of it or you don’t. If you have too much, the solution is simple: pay it off or get the money to service it.

    Keep playing the silly know-it-all dumbass. Keep failing to say anything relevant. The act was pathetically tired over 1000 of your worthless comments ago.

  27. 35


    The barrel laughs with this chickenshit dumbass just doesn’t quit. Now he’s an “economic nationalist”.. Dori Monson and Frank Shiers must be circle jerking to some warmed over Pat Buchanan.

    Little problem dumbass: it’s been tried. It failed. Everybody loses in a trade war.

    Try practicing economic nationalism at home. Stay away from Wal-mart dumbass.