Drinking Liberally — Seattle


It is a primary election night in five states (Alaska, Arizona, Florida, Oklahoma and Vermont), so come and cheer for your favorite teabagger and spend an evening of electoral politics under the influence at the Seattle chapter of Drinking Liberally. We meet at the Montlake Ale House, 2307 24th Avenue E. beginning at about 8:00 pm. Some folks will be there early for dinner.

Not in Seattle? There is a good chance you live near one of the 272 other chapters of Drinking Liberally.


  1. 2

    Mr. Cynical spews:

    ImamObaMao’s own State!!
    Monday, August 23, 2010

    Republican Bill Brady continues to hold a modest lead over Democratic incumbent Pat Quinn in Illinois’ gubernatorial race.

    A new Rasmussen Reports telephone survey of Likely Voters in the state finds Brady, a state senator, earning 46% of the vote, while Quinn picks up support from 37%.

    Even Illinois no longer trusts the Democrats?
    With the most corrupt political machine in America?

  2. 6


    Mr Cynical,

    “Even Illinois no longer trusts the Democrats?”

    I think you have no idea what you are talking about. Tell you what, Mr. Cynical, put your money where your mouth is. Let’s see if you are sure enough of your “thesis” to do so.

    Let’s make a series of four bets, let’s say, $100 each (unless you are willing to go higher…).

    1. There are five statewide races in Ill (Gov, Lt. Gov, Comptroller, Treasurer, and U.S. Senator. If your claim is correct that “Even Illinois no longer trusts the Democrats”, then it should be an easy bet for you to make that Republicans win a majority of the seats.

    2. Representatives in the Ill. Assembly are elected every two years. If you are correct, you should have no problem betting that Republicans will take a majority of the seats.

    3. There are 20 Assembly Senate seats up this year. If you are correct, you would be happy to “take my money” by betting that Republicans will win a majority of seats.

    4. Ill. has a delegation of 19 seats in the U.S. House of Representatives. Again…if your claim is true, you should be happy to bet that Republicans will take a majority of seats this fall.

    To be fair, ties wouldn’t go against either of us.

    So how ’bout it Cynical? Are you willing to put $400 on the line for your cockamamie beliefs? Or were you just being a crappy propagandist for the Wingnuts?

    (Oh..and since we have mutual friends in the construction industry from your former Washington port, I know who you are and can easily get in touch with you to collect my money. :-)

    How ’bout it?

  3. 7

    Michael spews:


    IL. Had Republican govenors for about 20 years running, until B-vitch came along. It’s not all that liberal. And Brady’s a non-tea bagger political insider.

  4. 8

    Steve spews:

    “(Oh..and since we have mutual friends in the construction industry from your former Washington port, I know who you are and can easily get in touch with you to collect my money. :-)”

    If you’d rather the $400 be taken out of his hide, then please, oh please let me do the collecting for you.

  5. 9

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @1 In Arizona, where John McCain easily beat J. D. Hayworth by 60% – 30%, it went down in flames: Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee [crash, burn]

  6. 10

    Proud To Be An Ass spews:

    @6: KKKlown won’t take the bet. He is merely a propagandist, not a gentleman, certainly not somebody with the courage of their convictions.

    And yet he claims to be well off. For a mere $400, that makes him a coward.

    You can take that to the bank, Darryl.

  7. 11

    Michael spews:

    Dang Rog beat me too it @9.

    I’m not seeing much of a Tea Bagger Revolution going on out there.

  8. 14

    Michael spews:

    Oops, this goes with #13

    Washington Veterans Take Senate Primaries
    Wednesday, August 25, 2010
    By DAMIEN CAVE, The New York Times
    MIAMI — Incumbent and establishment candidates beat back strong primary challenges, for the most part, on Tuesday in contests in five states across the country.
    Read more: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg.....z0xazTKhnH

  9. 15

    Zotz sez: Puddybud is just another word for arschloch spews:

    A D Sen pick-up?

    The Teahadist, Palin endorsed, candidate is taking down Lisa Murkowski (spawn of Frank) in the AK-Sen race in the context of an antichoice ballot measure that brought out the wingnuts in droves.

    The D is Scot McAdams, Mayor of Sitka. One to watch…

  10. 16

    MikeBoyScout spews:

    From Steve Benen Wednesday on the fate of AGs who were so sure suing over the Affordable Care Act was a good political move:

    FRIVOLOUS HEALTH CARE LAWSUIT FAILS TO BOOST STATE AGS…. Almost immediately after the Affordable Care Act was signed into law, several Republican state attorneys general — all ambitious, all with higher office in mind — decided that filing a lawsuit challenging the new law would boost their careers.

    Among them were: South Carolina’s Henry McMaster (R), Florida’s Bill McCollum (R), and Michigan’s Mike Cox (R). All three ran for governor this year, based at least in part on their “leadership” roles trying to undermine health care reform. As Ben Smith noted today, things didn’t turn out well for them — all three lost in their respective primaries.
    But in March, there was an assumption, especially in Republican circles, that opposition to the Affordable Care Act was political gold — and the bigger one’s role in fighting the Democratic reform package, the larger the political reward. Five months later, those assumptions are looking pretty shaky.

  11. 17

    rhp6033 spews:

    Historical Revisionism, latest chapter….

    Funny (strange) item in AOL main headlines this morning.

    According to AOL, the Library of Congress has released new color photographs taken during The Great Depression, which it claims “shatters myths about one of the darkest times in U.S. history”. The accompanying article includes the following:

    “…In the American imagination, the Great Depression is a sepia-toned land of rural life, large families, and close-knit communities that came together to weather through the hard times. The lines are sharply drawn between the haves and the have-nots, the poor souls without resources and the luckier citizens for whom the impact of the economic downfall is softened by a steady job or a fat bank account.

    The Library of Congress’ Depression color collection shatters some of these myths. With images of urban life in the late 1930s, they depict a Depression-era world in which the downfall doesn’t necessarily mean destitution; rather, it may mean wearing a coat that is growing shabby with age or reading the latest headlines off a newspaper publisher’s window in order to save the price of a paper. Or, for children photographed outside a tenement, it may mean living in a run-down home, but finding a new set of clothes under the Christmas tree….”

    Library of Congress Photos Put a New Face on the Great Depression

    See full article from DailyFinance: http://www.dailyfinance.com/st....._copyright

    A quick review of the pictures it posted show that they were actually taken in 1940 through 1942, when the economic recovery was well under way, and had been for quite some time. In fact, these were the years when U.S. economy was expanding due to the outbreak of WWII in Europe in 1939, and friendly countries were placing orders for all sorts of manufactured war materials, and the U.S. was ramping up from a rump army of 130,000 men with obsolete equipment to what eventually became a 9 million-man force with the best logistics supply in the world.

    But more importantly, the pictures really don’t say much about the economy – they are everday snapshots, but in color instead of black and white. Apparantly to the AOL writers, a color photo of people riding a ferris wheel is sufficient evidence to “shatter the myths” of the great depression.

    My own parents, who were children during the Depression, often spoke of the hardships of the early years, and the relative “wealth” of the later years of the 1930’s, and the comparitive bounty of the early 1940’s.

    So why does AOL seek to re-write the history of the Depression?

    First of all, we can assume that these writers are in their 20’s or 30’s. Their parents were baby boomers (or later), and they are at least two generations removed from the Great Depression themselves. My own grandparents struggled greatly to feed and house their families during the Depression. It’s hardships were seared into the memories of my parents – my Dad made a face when I asked him what “Poke Salad” was, and said “I didn’t want to know”. When I pressed him, he said that when there was nothing else to eat, he and his brothers would go to the river bank and collect these greens, which would sometimes be the only food they had for weeks at a time.

    I could hardly imagine trying to write a story which attempts to minimize their hardships, or implies that they were “myths”.

    Secondly, note that AOL is decidedly conservative, located in suburban Virginia. It’s conservative bias frequently appears in headlines which sometimes go far beyond the scope of the article.

    Third, I suspect that this is a forecast of the next conservative attack on Obama. As the economy improves, they don’t want him to be compared to F.D.R., or have to battle another 75 years of Obama’s legacy as someone who transformed the economy. Instead, they want to claim that the current “Great Rescession” is worse than the Great Depression, and try to blame him for not fixing it faster – despite the fact that they have obstructed every Democratic attempt to do so.

  12. 18

    Mr. Cynical spews:

    I’ll bet you on the Governor’s Race.
    $100 that a Republican wins.

    Oh and Darryl–
    I’m sure the One you worship, ImamObaMao, will help the Democrat Governor Candidate immensely.
    The Governor is the Primary office in Illinois. You want to drag in other races. I want to focus on the Governor’s Race. It has power.

    BTW–Just to be fair, I will do my report daily IF I’m around. We are going to be doing some traveling in Sept. & Oct.

    Wednesday, August 25, 2010

    The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Tuesday shows that 25% of the nation’s voters Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as president. Forty-five percent (45%) Strongly Disapprove, giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of -20

    Congrats to ImamObaMao!!

  13. 20

    Michael spews:


    From 1973 to 2003 The folks in Illinois put Republicans in their governor’s mansion in every election except one. A Republican winning that race isn’t a big deal or a sign of a big upset. It’s even less so, when you consider the Republican that’s in the race this time a round is a fairly moderate political insider and that he last governor was a crook. People tend to vote the other party in cases like that*

    Where’s your big Throw The Bums Out Tea Party Revolution?

    See the 2006, 2008 federal elections…

  14. 21

    proud leftist spews:

    Cynny is clearly a coward who is afraid to put his money where his mouth is. Why does that not surprise me?

  15. 22

    Mr. Cynical spews:

    OK Darryl–
    $100 each on the Governor’s Race and ImamObaMao’s old seat.
    Willing to bet Darryl?

    The Democrat is ahead in the Senate Race–
    Wednesday, August 25, 2010

    Democrat Alexi Giannoulias and Republican Mark Kirk remain in a near-tie in Illinois’ race for the U.S. Senate. The latest Rasmussen Reports telephone survey of Likely Illinois Voters finds Giannoulias with 42% support and Kirk with 40% of the vote.

    How about you proud leftist?
    Put your money where your mouth is…coward?!

  16. 23

    Mr. Cynical spews:

    A Dummocrat Senator as stupid as the L’il Troll Patty Murray is in a real battle–
    Wednesday, August 25, 2010

    Democratic incumbent Barbara Boxer and her Republican challenger Carly Fiorina are now essentially tied in California’s U.S. Senate race, moving the state from Leans Democratic to a Toss-Up in the Rasmussen Reports Election 2010 Senate Balance of Power rankings.

    The latest Rasmussen Reports telephone survey of Likely Voters in California shows Boxer with 44% support, while Fiorina picks up 43% of the vote. Five percent (5%) like another candidate in the race, and eight percent (8%) are undecided. Earlier this month, Boxer held a five-point lead, 45% to 40%, and she was ahead 49% to 42% in July.

  17. 24

    Mr. Cynical spews:

    And Feingold is still in trouble..
    Any incumbent at less than 50% at this point is highly vulnerable-
    Wednesday, August 25, 2010

    The U.S. Senate race in Wisconsin between incumbent Democrat Russ Feingold and his top Republican challenger, Ron Johnson, remains a tie.

    A new Rasmussen Reports telephone survey of Likely Voters in the state finds Johnson earning 47% of the vote, while Feingold, who is seeking a third-term, picks up 46% support

  18. 25

    Michael spews:


    I don’t know anything about the Feingold race, but Carly Fiorina is hardly an outsider or Tea Party member. Off term elections, like the one we’re currently in, tend to favor the out of power. That’s all S.O.P.

    Are you ready to admit that there’s no Tea Party Revolution yet?

  19. 26


    Mr. Cynical,

    No go on the Gubernatorial race alone. I offered packages of races above. My offer stands.

    If you actually believe your bullshit that “Even Illinois no longer trusts the Democrats”, then you should be willing to accept.

    How about it?

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    I don’t know about the typical teabagger but everyone I know on my side of the issues is going to vote this November.

  21. 29

    rhp6033 spews:

    What is it with Republicans like Carley Fiona who taught their experience in running a business (Hewitt-Packard, in her case) into the ground as a qualification for running government?

    I thought we would have seen the last of that with George W. Bush. He was set up in at least two different oil lease businesses by his father and oil colleagues of his father and grandfather. Both were in imminent risk of collapse when the Bush Old Boy’s Network stepped in to buy them in order to save his reputation.

    They then set him up as a partner in the professional sports team business, with little of his own money at stake but as a figurehead management guy with good political connections. That team was bailed out by the taxpayers with huge concessions made under the threat of leaving town, and G.W. Bush made a big profit on his nominal investment. Of course, the investment wasn’t really his money – it was borrowed money from the Bush Old Boy’s Network, which he likely would not have had to repay if they couldn’t have extorted tax money and made a profit on the resell.

    Of course, the GOP taughted Bush as a “successful businessman”, and the media generally obliged them by not asking to many questions.

    But G.W. Bush continued his impressive string of management failures as President:

    (1) Pushing through a tax cut for the wealthy and putting the federal budget into a deficit which may take decades to reverse;

    (2) Ignoring clear warnings of Al Quida’s intention to make an attack in the U.S., dismissing the briefer rudely because he was interrupting his vacation;

    (3) De-funding and dismantling FEMA in an attempt to out-source almost all of it’s functions (he and his minions saw it only as a rump organization which would issue contracts to private companies) which made it ill-prepared to handle the Katrina disaster;

    (4) Ignoring clear signs of a rapidly approaching disaster in the home-lending industry, resulting in a collapse which threatened the entire U.S. banking and financial system which was averted only by mass infusions of taxpayer money;

    (5) Getting the U.S. into an unnecessary 7+ war in Iraq which squandered the goodwill we had recieved by virtue of the 9/11 attacks, and ignoring and replacing commanders who questioned the wisdom of conquering a country with no viable occupation plan in place ….

    I could go on, but those are the high points.

  22. 30

    Mr. Cynical spews:

    No go to the minor races.
    I have a buddy who lives in Hyde Park where ImamObaMao learned how to lie & cheat. A lot of the Districts have be gerry-mandered.
    ImamObaMao’s Senate Seat and the Blago’s Governor’s seat.
    Those are the 2 most important races.