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Drinking Liberally — Seattle

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DLBottlePlease join us Tuesday for an evening of politics over a pint at the Seattle Chapter of Drinking Liberally. This is the place to go for some post-election discussions of the future.

We meet every Tuesday at the Roanoke Park Place Tavern, 2409 10th Ave E, Seattle. You’ll find us in the small room at the back of the tavern beginning about 8pm.




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  2. 2

    (((Goldy))) @GoldyHA
    You had one job, journalists: Safeguard democracy. And you failed. Quit now and do something useful. Like teach… anything but journalism.

    Or… shill for a billionaire. Lots of libbie billionaires out there, and after this election cycle they might be getting a different band back together for the next gig.

    ’cause shit like this:

    (((Goldy))) ‏@GoldyHA May 27
    I’m a big lefty too, but Jesus Christ, Twitter friends, Hillary is the nominee! Push her on policy, but stop attacking her credibility.

    proved unhelpful to their cause.

    Sanders’ too-little-too-late rejoinder:

    “It’s not good enough for someone to say, ‘I’m a woman! Vote for me!’” No, that’s not good enough. What we need is a woman who has the guts to stand up to Wall Street, to the insurance companies, to the drug companies, to the fossil fuel industry,” the Vermont independent senator and former Democratic presidential candidate said in a not-so-subtle rebuke to Hillary Clinton.

    http://www.politico.com/story/.....ics-231710

    Not just a rebuke to #CrookedHillary, Goldy.

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    I suspect the already-unpopular electoral college winner will become much more unpopular when the credulous dummies who believed a con artist’s extravagant promises realize he won’t keep any of them.

  7. 7

    I heard that if you break a campaign promise they don’t let you nominate any Supreme Court justices.

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    @11 As a feral rabbit, I go whenever and wherever I feel like it, in other words I recycle lettuce. What do you fertilize with all the shit you’re full of?

  15. 15

    Drumpf’s plan for this country is pretty simple. Just run the country like it ran its businesses – into bankruptcy.

    Some of Reagan’s and Bush’s advisors also claimed that cutting taxes would increase tax revenue, so great would be the resulting boost to economic activity. That notion has been shown to be false for the United States, time after time. Trump, at least, has employed no such pretension.

    Rather, he has relied on his usual business strategy, starting with the seduction of starry-eyed investors (now voters) with the glamour of the Trump name and promises of monumental proportions. The next steps — the ones that led him to repeated bankruptcies — are more ominous: Lever up a mountain of debt, and then leave others to foot the bill when repayment becomes impossible.

    http://foreignpolicy.com/2016/.....trump-can/

    I hear California is trying to secede.. Calexit..

  16. 16

    The jobs and prosecutions are coming. But they won’t be coming from Our Leader, The God Emperor Shitlord Trump. He’s far too important to sully himself in matters like these, dealing with cleaning up after the Clinton/Obama corruption.
    Our Attorney General and Our FBI Director will take care of the prosecutions in due time. And Our Congress will get to work immediately next year unleashing the pent up economy.
    Watch and weep, progressive losers.

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    How do you run a country with only white haters? I guess we’ll find out. He keeps burning bridges behind him. When you have no idea what you are doing, that’s not a good corner to paint yourself into. And all his “supporters” are going to find out they were losers all along.

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    @13 To explain, lettuce goes into one end of a rabbit, comes out the other end, and fertilizes the soil, which grows more lettuce. It’s a never-ending cycle of lettuce to shit, shit to lettuce, lettuce to shit again, and shit back to lettuce. This food chain can keep going forever. Thus rabbits, unlike you stupid humans, are a sustainable species.

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    @19 Don’t forget, rabbits eat their own fcces once before finally depositing it in nature. It’s a way of extracting the most from their food. Bon apetite!

  21. 21

    Now that Trump actually has to be president, he’s backing off a lot of the absurd things he said on the campaign trail to get racists, haters, and xenophobes to vote for him. Let’s take inventory:

    Coal jobs? Nope, not coming back.
    Mexican wall? Not really.
    Lock up Hillary? Naw, not gonna do that.
    Climate change? Not a “Chinese hoax” after all.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/.....6055ff19a3

    Roger Rabbit Commentary: You can see where this is going. All the unrealistic promises Trump made to his supporters will be broken. Hey, we tried to warn them, but they didn’t listen. They have no one to blame but themselves.

  22. 22

    Boo hoo-hoo:

    President-Elect Donald J. Trump destroys “crooked” Hillary Clinton’s opportunity for martyrdom.

    RIOT NOW … PLEASE whine, cry, moan and destroy your own communities instead of focusing upon why left wing liberalism lost the Presidency, failed to retake the Senate, made negligible gains in the House and vastly improved the Grand Old Party across the fruited plains (Vermont VERMONT! elected a Republican governor!

    “We lost the governorship of freaking Vermont,” lamented Washington-based Democratic strategist Chris Kofinis. “We didn’t just lose an election. This was a national rebuke. This was biblical.”

    You’ll find us in the small room at the back of the tavern beginning about 8pm.
    You have no idea just how funny that line is, do you?
    Karma, Baby!

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    @23 How do you explain away the fact that Drumpf is now trailing by 1.7 million in the popular vote?

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    Trump should not attempt to prosecute Hillary. Also, Hillary should simply withdraw from public life. I think we all can live with that scenario.

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    In other news, Obama has pardoned many “drug offenders.” That’s good. Even better, cannabis is on its way to nation-wide legalization. Sure, Texas will probably be the last state to realize it is on the wrong side of history. It may even never legalize cannabis at the state level. That’s Texas’ problem if they want to criminalize something that other states are taxing and getting revenues from. Makes no sense.

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    Also, Hillary should simply withdraw from public life. I think we all can live with that scenario.

    Hmmmm. The wet dream of Hillary haters. Maybe she should continue to advocate for kids and the poor..

    Hillary haters will continue to hate her for it – until they die. Lives well spent to be sure.

  30. 30

    I understand that Breitbart is already whining about Drumpf broken promises…

    Unhinged Hillary hatred is a mental disorder!

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    Coal jobs?
    Coal jobs were never supposed to come back. Real Americans in Coal Country USA get all the construction and manufacturing jobs vacated when we terminate the set-aside programs and begin the roundups of all the mongrels, gimmedats, wets, and Anchor Mamas.
    Mexican wall?
    Not right away. Eliminating all the bullshit set-asides, cracking down on the wets, and beginning the roundups will trigger a mass of self-deportation. The wall comes later.
    Lock up Hillary?
    Not her turn yet. Progressive Race Hero Barry is first. Oh yeah.
    Climate change?
    Yep. It does. Lots. So?

    Keep grindin’ away, losers! You’ve only been at it for forty years. Something’s bound to work eventually.

  34. 34

    Hillary should just go and be Nana to her grandchildren. That’s the best use of her time.

    Prosecuting her (assuming it’s possible for the sake of discussion) is just as stupid an idea as GWB’s persecution of Martha Stewart. She got a year in prison for lying to the Feds. They should have just fined her and called it a day. When someone goes to prison, we have to pay for their upkeep in jail. That’s a waste of out tax dollars, particularly for a “lying to the Feds” beef. Heck, the Feds lie to us all the time and nothing ever happens to them. Putting Martha in jail was really, really stupid.

    One last thing – Kristain Saucier should get a full pardon and be re-instated in the Navy at his former rank and in his former role as a submariner. He should be allowed to complete his military career without prejudice.

  35. 35

    Hmmmm. The wet dream of Hillary haters. Maybe she should continue to advocate for kids and the poor..

    Pre-aborting them, we presume.

  36. 36

    How do you explain away the fact that Drumpf is now trailing by 1.7 million in the popular vote?

    I don’t. It matters not a single solitary whit. She is still the ex-candidate, she is still the the losing candidate, she is not the President-elect.

    She, and you, knew the requirement going in and that requirement is getting to 270 Electoral College votes. With 232 she was unable to even get close.

    Deal with it.

    Or, if that’s the pacifier that gives you comfort, keep at it. The whining won’t change the facts.

  37. 37

    senile wabbit @4,

    Because a judge attacks Wisconsin’s redistricting plan? Probably a libtard one!

  38. 38

    Did she win more states libtards? Or just more libtards voted in the populous states? If she won the battleground states we would be sad. She didn’t so STFU!

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

  39. 39

    Look who is here @37, HA’s resident Ape. Dude – maybe Boob will let you borrow a hood so you can go white face from now on, you’ll need it.

  41. 41

    She didn’t so STFU!

    Awwww. Look who’s trying “shut up its political enemies”… Hateful HYPOCRITE!

    FAYLE!

    Hillary Clinton got 1.7 million more votes than your sex predator/con-man of a candidate. FACT!

    Way to support a system, the EC, that supported SLAVERY for so long dumbass!

  42. 42

    Now Drumpf had to admit its sham of a charitable foundation engaged in self-dealing..

    Waytogo supporting this train wreck trolls!

  43. 43

    You know they have it hard for you when they call you animal names. Still bent over and getting it hard eh hanging human tea bag licker?

    Sux to be on knee pads all day!

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    Pre-aborting them, we presume.

    Yeah you would ASSume something like that and ignore the following:

    If you look at the Clinton Foundation’s consolidated expenses for 2014, which totaled $249 million, you’ll find that the biggest part of those expenses—57 percent—was for running the Clinton Health Access Initiative, or CHAI. Technically, CHAI is a freestanding nonprofit, and it files its own 990 tax return, but it is still roughly under the Clinton Foundation umbrella. CHAI was started in 2002 to focus on saving the “lives of people with HIV/AIDS in the developing world by dramatically scaling up antiretroviral treatment.” It has since expanded to address other health issues like malaria and maternal health, operating in some 35 countries.

    http://www.insidephilanthropy......ly-do.html

    Drumpf’s silly foundation engages in self-dealing and Drumpf hasn’t put in a dime of its own money into it since 2008.

    Hillary hatred is a brain wasting disease!

  45. 45

    Hillary should just go and be Nana to her grandchildren. That’s the best use of her time.

    An equally good use is to do good works to make up for some of the damage the con-man Drumpf will do to this country. No one should surrender to hate.

  46. 46

    FACT

    Hillary got 232 electoral votes. 38 short of the magic numba!

    Sux to be Hillary!

  51. 51

    Yes Spencer is the equivalent

    of POODEBUTT the babbling jackass troll – another dumbass who raises its hand and shouts:

    “Hail Drumpf!”

    because HATE…

    Zuckerberg’s gang attacked Trump

    HAHAHAHAHA! From the DUMBASS who once hallucinated from its ASS that Peter Thiel was a liberal!

  52. 52

    YLB, Pointing out what the Clinton Foundation purportedly does, does not negate her extreme (and out of the mainstream) abortion positions: In a Sept. 20 interview with CBS’ Face the Nation moderator John Dickerson, Hillary Clinton revealed that she wouldn’t support a federal limit on abortion “at any state of pregnancy” in the name of a “woman’s right to choose.” She expressed absolutely no qualifier … “at any state of pregnancy” includes UP UNTIL THE MOMENT OF BIRTH.

    It has since expanded to address other health issues like malaria and maternal health, operating in some 35 countries.

    2014 – Group touts 4,000 abortions in 1 year with Clinton’s support
    Bill, Hillary and Chelsea Clinton’s international foundation, in the spotlight this month for hosting the annual Clinton Global Initiative in New York, back two groups that operate a massive international abortion business, including one that heralded its 4,000 abortions in a 2013 annual report.

    Clinton Foundation documents show that it supports two groups that provide abortion services and supplies in Africa, India and Asia — Pathfinder International and Population Services International.
    http://www.washingtonexaminer......le/2553999

    October 7, 2016 : 80 Percent Of Americans Support Limiting Abortion To The First Trimester
    The Democratic candidate for president has only pushed harder against the mainstream and doubled down on an agenda that most Americans would never vote for themselves. … This latest number comes from a July 2016 poll conducted by Marist, the polling agency used by the Wall Street Journal, McLatchy Corporation, and NBC News. The Marist poll also revealed that six out of ten self-identified pro-choice Americans believe abortion should be limited to the first three months of pregnancy.

    November 18, 2016
    New Poll: Vast Majority of Millennials Favor Limiting Abortion to 20 Weeks

    A poll released yesterday by the polling company, inc./WomanTrend reveals that just under two-thirds of Americans support legislation prohibiting abortions after the 20th week of pregnancy, including almost 80 percent of Millennials. The polling group interviewed 824 respondents over the course of Election Day, choosing only individuals who were registered to vote and had either already voted or planned to cast a ballot.
    Forty-three percent of those surveyed said they would strongly support a measure to limit abortions to early in pregnancy, while only 22 percent strongly oppose it. Men and women were about equally as likely to support such a bill, with 63 percent of men and 65 percent of women saying they’d support it. In addition, Millennials were one of the groups most likely to support such a bill, at 78 percent, which is a particularly positive sign for the future of the pro-life movement.

    ***

    “Non-political people are watching, and when no one goosesteps over to their houses to throw them into Jesus camp with all the other people whose ancestors didn’t hail from Dusseldorf, they’re going to figure out that your endless freakoutrages are all lies. When everybody’s terrible, nobody is. Especially when the people you say are terrible really aren’t.”

  53. 53

    re: Rabbits comfort pacifier and his tantrum safe space:
    “… As a balm to sooth the left’s wounded egos, the notion that a plurality of the nation’s voters did not support Trump is potent stuff. It is also, however, entirely insufficient as a source of legitimacy and only serves to postpone the Democratic Party’s reckoning with its electoral problems.” …
    “All this is sadly misguided. The Electoral College, itself the result of compromise by the Founders, isn’t going anywhere. The federal government is a creation of the sovereign states, not the other way around. The generally well-founded fear of majoritarian democracy displayed by men like Hamilton and Madison is evident in the compromise that led to the creation of the Electoral College—a character that has been diluted in the intervening centuries. Democrats who indulge in self-gratifying tantrums about the un-American nature of the outcome of the 2016 elections are demonstrating only how little of the American tradition they retained from primary schooling.” …
    “The Democratic Party’s response to their failures in the Electoral College is equivalent to shooting the messenger. The party should adapt and adjust to again appeal to winning coalitions in the whole country, not force the country to accede to the will of California and New York. Trump and the Republican Party he leads may falter or overreach. Democrats could win back Congress and the White House again by default even if they didn’t change a thing. Given the contempt the party has shown toward the country’s institutions and the voters who elected the next president, however, they wouldn’t deserve the honor.”

    Sorry, dude.

  54. 54

    Its easier to throw a short sighted temper tantrum and scream “racism!” than it is to study some civics/ history and understand why things were put together the way they were.

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    @53 Is this what you’re referring to?

    ” … at least three electors have pledged to not vote for Trump and to seek a ‘reasonable Republican alternative for president through Electoral College,’ according to a statement Wednesday from a group called the Hamilton Electors, which represents them. ‘The Founding Fathers created the Electoral College as the last line of defense,’ one elector, Michael Baca, said in a statement, ‘and I think we must do all that we can to ensure that we have a reasonable Republican candidate who shares our American values.'”

    http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/22/.....index.html

  56. 56

    I’m guessing Trump is on his better behavior right now because he hasn’t actually been elected yet. He appears to have 306 electoral votes, subject to possible recounts in key swing states, so it would take only 37 defections (or less) to throw the election into the House, where the Republican majority could, um, elect someone else. Say, Mitt Romney.

  57. 57

    And then there’s this:

    “Hillary Clinton’s campaign is being urged by a number of top computer scientists to call for a recount of vote totals in Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania, according to a source with knowledge of the request.

    “The computer scientists believe they have found evidence that vote totals in the three states could have been manipulated or hacked and presented their findings to top Clinton aides on a call last Thursday.”

    http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/22/.....index.html

    Roger Rabbit Commentary: I’m not a fan of conspiracy theories, and I don’t think anything will come of this. I believe Trump won those three states. These computer scientists don’t have direct evidence that Russia or some other hacker changed the vote count; they can only show a pattern of Trump getting a larger percentage of the vote in precincts with electronic voting machines, and there could be a valid explanation for that. For example richer counties that can afford electronic voting machines likely are more Republican-leaning, and isn’t the kind of rock-solid evidence you need to overturn an election result. I think it’s worthwhile to investigate whether Russian hackers changed the election outcome by tampering with the vote count in those three key states, and if smoking-gun evidence is found that Trump did not win an electoral vote majority, then it’s up to the electors, or the House of Representatives, or the Supreme Court to decide what to do about it. I don’t see Clinton being declared the winner under any of these scenarios. The House, which has the final say, potentially might pick some other Republican.

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    I hear Ben Cursed one, as HUD Sectetarian will look to see if he can get rid of the last remains of any grain in the silos and the concert all Silos into condos for just the KKK members.

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    So good to see QPPS admit to all Puddy PWNS it too!

    Such PWNAGE on this blog!

  66. 66

    RE: Bored and pacifier comforted bunny at too many posts: The three electors I read about were BERNIE supporters who refused to vote for Hillary …won’t affect Trump.: Sanders Electors Vow To Vote Against Clinton In Wild Attempt To Keep Trump From White House

    Six former Bernie supporters joined together in an attempt to buck their state-mandated vote in an attempt to keep Trump from the White House, but there’s just one problem: They are mandated to vote for Clinton.

    – – Let’s call it their 15 minutes of fame… or attention whore infamy.

    BEST CHRISTMAS PRESENT TO THE GOP … EVER:
    Please, God, PLEASE let Hillary contest the election!
    Please, after she conceded TWICE, please, let her contest the election.
    After all the pre-election worrying and whining about Trump not accepting the results of the election, PLEASE LET HER CONTEST THE ELECTION!
    After all this time, after the new administration has begun to take shape, after most of America have accepted the results, PLEASE LET HER CONTEST THE ELECTION.
    PLEASE let her throw this country into more drama and more Clinton chaos.
    Please, let her steal the headlines with a shiny squirrel while Trump maturely and soberly goes about building his administration.
    PLEASE let her humiliate herself one last time in grand style!
    Please let her taint the Clinton brand for all eternity while guaranteeing the vindictive Democrats stay in the wilderness.
    Please, God, give those of us who voted against her reason to smugly know we did the exact right thing.
    Hillary, we are on our knees BEGGING you: please contest the election!

    Oh God, PLEASE grant our prayer!

    Markets Are Certain Hillary Clinton Won’t Contest Donald Trump Presidential Win

    Sigh: No, Hillary Didn’t Lose Because Wisconsin’s Voting System Was Hacked

    Oh God, PLEASE grant our prayer!
    It will make more liberal heads explode more than when PRESIDENT ELECT Trump denied her martyrdom!

  68. 68

    Today, Halderman has written a long post at Medium in which he admits pushing the Clinton camp to demand a recount but says he does not believe it’s likely the election results were hacked by Russia
    … There’s still one way that some of this year’s paper ballots could be examined. In many states, candidates can petition for a recount. The candidate needs to pay the cost, which can run into millions of dollars. The deadlines for filing recount petitions are soon — for example, this Friday in Wisconsin (margin 0.7%), Monday in Pennsylvania (margin 1.2%), and the following Wednesday in Michigan (margin 0.3%).

    HA! Hillary please, please, please part with “millions of dollars” (not yours, of course: send out those donation letters! The HorsesAsses want to give!) to further besmirch your own name and reputation!

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