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Drinking Liberally — Seattle

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DLBottlePlease join us tonight for an evening of political pontification over a pint. An evening of electoral erudition over an elixer! An evening of conservative contraindication over a cocktail!! It’s this week’s edition of the Seattle Chapter of Drinking liberally.

We meet tonight and every Tuesday at the Roanoke Park Place Tavern, 2409 10th Ave E, Seattle. You’ll find us in the small room at the back of the tavern. Our starting time is 8:00 pm, but some folks stop by even earlier for dinner.




Can’t make it to Seattle tonight? Check out one of the other DL meetings happening this week. Tonight the Tri-Cities chapter also meets. On Wednesday, the Burien chapter meets. The Spokane and Woodinville chapters meet on Thursday.

There are 183 chapters of Living Liberally, including eighteen in Washington state, four in Oregon and two in Idaho. Chances are good there’s a chapter meeting near you.

Comments

  1. 1

    Where’s Sloppy?

    By this time yesterday he was gloating for some reason about the stock market. But as of early trading this morning with China still crashing, U.S. markets have gained back 2/3 of yesterday’s losses.

    I guess I’ll have lunch in a Seattle restaurant today after all.

  2. 2

    Prosecutors also offered new details about one of the most contested pieces of evidence: a black-bound notebook seized from Melgen’s office that the FBI had described as a prostitution ledger.

    Lawyers for Melgen are trying to get that evidence thrown out as an illegal seizure, because it runs far afield of the doctor’s health-care billings and relationship with Menendez.

    But the Justice Department contends the notebook is in bounds. And prosecutors alleged in their court filing that they and the FBI found “substantial evidence” to establish probable cause that the doctor was “involved in prostitution.” The government also said Menendez took trips to the Dominican Republic “during time frames in which one unidentified alleged minor victim specifically claimed to have had sex with him.”

    http://www.npr.org/sections/it.....ice-filing

    Biggest loser: YLB.

    Oh, and if you want a stronger hit on Menendez ties to underage prostitutes, YLB, check out the NYDN coverage:

    Sen. Robert Menendez may have had sex with underage hookers in Dominican Republic: prosecutors

    http://www.nydailynews.com/new.....-1.2336046

    Now, would your darling ‘two-term’ President Obama be so cruel as to cause his DOJ to falsely accuse Menendez of fucking underage prostitutes because of a political disagreement? Is Obama that small a man? Say it ain’t so, Joe.

  3. 3

    @1

    CNN, October 13, 2008:

    NEW YORK� (CNNMoney.com) — Stocks rallied Monday afternoon, with the Dow rallying 976 points during the session, as investors bet that the worst of the credit crisis is over, following a series of global initiatives announced over the last few days.

    The Dow Jones industrial average (INDU) ended 936 points higher, after having risen as much as 976 points during the session. The advance was the largest ever during a session on a point basis. The point gain was equal to 11.1%, the best one-day percentage gain since Sept. 1932 and the fifth-best ever.

    I believe a wise man today pointed out that China is still crashing.

  4. 4

    Small reminder:

    For every share purchased by an investor seeing a buying opportunity, there is a share sold by someone looking to unwind a position.

  5. 5

    @3-4

    For every armature rooting for the economy to crash there’s an investor willing to take the now undervalued shares off his hands.

    Netflix was a steal yesterday late morning as idiots on the west coast awoke to find their holdings devalued and let them go to me because the sky was falling and get out now before you lose it all. Hmmm….a company millions will turn to if they tighten their belts and cut off cable or satellite service? Yeah, that was a good one to dump.

    Thanks, I’ll just increase my hold position in NFLX

  6. 6

    @2

    Hey Bob, of course the dates match. DR prostitute was bribed and the story fell apart. That Menendez was in the DR on the dates that the alleged incident took place has never been in doubt.

    Nice try.

  7. 7

    @5

    Hmmm….a company millions will turn to if they tighten their belts and cut off cable or satellite service?

    Hey, CZ, if they cut off their cable/satellite service, don’t they have to pick up DSL in order to watch Netflix?

    Go ahead and cherry-pick your single stock. But don’t think Netflix operates in isolation, because it doesn’t.

  8. 8

    @ 6

    I’m aware of that. But here’s the thing:

    If it’s been debunked, why is NPR still reporting it? And if it’s a nothingburger, why all the effort to keep DOJ from using Melgen’s little black book?

    This isn’t reported by Fox News, nor the New York Post. It’s being reported by NPR.

    Which is why I find it pretty interesting.

  9. 9

    @7

    You do know Netflix still has a mail in service?

    You’re aware that High speed internet is considered by most as essnetial these days. And you know that you can get Comcast internet only service for $40/mo (3mbs) $50 (6mbs) or $70 (20mbs) while the cheapest non-broadcast only cable package adds $50/mo in charges. It’s the last thing most households will drop at this point. But you knew that right? You don’t see the media landscape as it was in 2008, right?

    Cherry picking?

    Yesterday was a good day to get a relative bargain on AAPL, IBM, Amazon, Comcast (ironically) Pfizer…

  10. 10

    @ 9

    You don’t see the media landscape as it was in 2008, right?

    Um, by mentioning by-mail DVD subscribers you’re seeing the media landscape as it was in the 1990s, cz. First rule of holes.

    Netflix has 65 million worldwide streaming members. It has 5.3 million DVD subscribers, down from 20 million in 2010.

    So you’re pushing Netflix based on less than 10% of its business, a segment that has shrunk by about 75% in the past 5 years.

    People don’t use Netflix so they can wait four days for a disk to arrive that they could have run to Redbox to acquire for $1.50 and watched same-day. They use Netflix so they can binge-watch OITNB before they catch Twilight. And they need broadband access to do that.

    I need to spend some time on more cerebral efforts than debating this with you. Think I’ll go trim a hedge.

  11. 11

    Sloppy is digging in on a bad point.

    Most households now see HSI as essential and it is not expensive. People work from home, have VOIP phones if they even still have a home phone line, and stream content! (Gasp!)

    So the next time a household is tightening thier belt, HSI will stay because it is essential. The $50-100 cable or satellite video package will go and get replcaed by an $8 Netflix streaming account.

    One can’t telecommute on a dial up connection. You are aware that more and more new neighborhoods are being built with fiber and 100mbs+ internet is included in your HOA fees? No? Right, you still think people will just drop their HSI access at the first hint of economic downturn.

    Sloppy, very Sloppy thinking.

  13. 13

    Where’s the babbling jackass today? You’d think it would be here to defend the virtue of Megyn Kelley from that lout Trump.

    Donald J. Trump ✔@realDonaldTrump
    “@mstanish53: @realDonaldTrump @megynkelly The bimbo back in town . I hope not for long .”

    Donald J. Trump ✔@realDonaldTrump

    I liked The Kelly File much better without @megynkelly. Perhaps she could take another eleven day unscheduled vacation!

    Unscheduled huh? We were “told” it was planned. “Weeks” in advance even!

    Breitbart’s darling, Trump. What cognitive dissonance for the babbling jackass.

  14. 14

    Ahhh. Little low-life Scotty Walker. Here’s why the hack is such a low life:

    Scott Walker has for two decades won primary elections by refusing to allow any Republican to outmaneuver him on the right.

    Now witness a flailing, failing hack flip-flopping all over the place:

    That could explain the birthright-citizenship fiasco. A day after Trump declared his opposition to granting automatic citizenship to those born on American soil, Walker embraced the same position, only to jettison it six days later. Though such a stance is popular with the Republican primary electorate, it would doom a Republican nominee with the all-important Latino vote just as surely as Mitt Romney’s “self-deportation” call did in 2012.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/scott-walker-falls-flat-on-his-face/2015/08/24/5bb3b486-4a93-11e5-8ab4-c73967a143d3_story.html

    You’d think the emergence of a freak like Trump would compel a seasoned politician on the right to step up their game – play chess so to speak..

    But poor little low-life Scotty Walker the hack can only handle checkers. Maybe the Koch bros can move some cash around to help bail out their darling hack out of his bind.

  17. 17

    monomaniacal moronic moonbattic memoryless ABSOLUTELY crazed cretin yellowishleakingbuttspigot absolutely neurotic low IQ arschloch @14,

    So now you are a “Trump”eter now monomaniacal moronic moonbattic memoryless ABSOLUTELY crazed cretin yellowishleakingbuttspigot absolutely neurotic low IQ arschloch? Seems you believe anything Trump sez, even when Roger Ailes sez otherwise!

    DAYUM Funny this freakazoid monomaniacal moronic moonbattic memoryless cretin!

  18. 18

    Puddy loves it when morons like checkmate @1 and the teabaggin buttbusting BULLSHITTIUM buttbigot gorilla this morning scream about things unfinished during the day!

    DOWN -1.29% 15,666.44 lost another 204.91 points. So much for that Obummer economy eh? Seems when GW Bush endured the stock meltdown that day libtards later screamed how bad it was.

    -358 points last Thursday
    -530.94 points last Friday
    -588.40 points yesterday
    -204.91 points Tuesday

    Last three months -13.16%. Butt remember Jack Lew Treasury Secretary told all of us last month https://grabien.com/story.php?id=32165&from=allstories…

    Jack Lew, speaking at the Brookings Institution in July, confidently assured that Americans were immune from weakening markets in China.

    “I will say that China’s markets still are pretty much separated from world markets,” the secretary of Treasury, said. “They’re, obviously, moving towards being more integrated, but right now they’re not.”

    Yessiree… Jack [confidently a libtard know nothing moron] went to the libtards at Brookings and they ate up his swill! Shows how much these Obummer morons know about the world markets and the slobbering libtards following their smelly ASSes!!!!!

    Golly you two twerps… the shits keep coming. So much for that early onset senile schismatic IDIOT Wabbit buying spree!

  19. 19

    Losses last week 888.94
    Losses this week so far 793.31

    More than GW Bush endured! So where is the cacophony of libtard reaction?

    FACTS – Always a massive headache and delivering traumatic brain injuries to DUMMOCRETINS each day!

  20. 20

    Hey, CZ @ 1

    How was lunch?

    A strong rally on Wall Street evaporated on Tuesday and stocks ended with deep losses as concerns about China’s economy outweighed lower valuations that some saw earlier as bargains.

    In a dramatic trading session, major indices turned negative in the final minutes of trading after previously climbing almost 3 percent.

    Investors cited more worries that a slowdown in China could hobble global growth, even after the country’s central bank cut interest rates on Tuesday for the second time in two months. The move came after Chinese stocks slumped 8 percent on Tuesday, on top of an 8.5 percent drop on Monday.

    http://www.reuters.com/article.....3F20150825

    Wee bit of indigestion at the end of the meal, cz? Were you glued to your smartphone as you held the dessert menu, eventually electing to take a pass on the tiramisu? Maybe you should have ordered the bear instead of the bull as your main course.

    I’m sure you thought that shiny certificate earned at the Roger Rabbit’s Famous Investors School

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0642893/

    over the weekend needed to be taken out for a spin.

    Here’s an investing stock tip, to use for the future: If our largest source of foreign investment in US government paper sees its stock market go down 8+% on Monday and 8% more on Tuesday, maybe investing in the US stock market early in the same week isn’t such a smart idea.

    This is likely the beginning of a correction, cz. It’s long overdue and it likely will be at least a little while before we reach bottom, and then a little while longer while we bump along the bottom, before the fundamentals match the market level and there’s room to go up again.

    Meanwhile, you – and everybody else – still have a chance to buy Netflix at a price nearly identical to yesterday’s closing price. It went up 20 cents today. Netflix buyers must have read your analysis, cz.

  21. 21

    Sooooooooooooooooooo… Lois Lerner has a secret email account too? http://www.breitbart.com/big-g.....l-account/

    [EXCESSIVELY COPIED MATERIAL DELETED

    PuddyCommentary: Only two paragraphs libtards! This is exactly what Puddy said years ago. Breitbart is finally coming around to said PuddyCommentary! Just ax the clueless cretin with the crazed databaze for the PuddyReplay!

    Gotta love Judicial Watch. They know how to dig and make the IRS look like the guvmint buffoons they are. Do they know the clueless monomaniacal moron with the crazed databaze?

  22. 22

    INTEL AGENCIES CONFIRM HILLARY CLINTON EMAILS WERE CLASSIFIED — BY OBAMA

    [EXCESSIVELY COPIED MATERIAL DELETED]

    PuddyCommentary: Just two paragraphs libtards! Will Heilary let Huma go? What will the Arabs say? What will the Feminists say? What will Mr Weiner say? Seems one of those Obummer executive orders is BITING Heilary in de ASS! A 2009 executive order from Obummer that is! http://www.breitbart.com/big-g.....-by-obama/

  23. 23

    Civic Skunk Works @civicskunkworks
    Radio silence from @Mark_J_Perry on the Seattle restaurant industry… @TBPInvictus, @paulconstant, @GoldyHA are waiting for your response!
    Retweeted by Goldy

    Hey, that reminds me. I’m still waiting for Goldy to respond with his thoughts about job losses in the Los Angeles hotel industry, and whether he thinks they could be related to the minimum wage increase.

    http://horsesass.org/friday-ni.....nt-1294827

    Here’s another chance for him to do so.

  24. 24

    I know how to get Goldy to engage about job losses in the LA hotel industry that might be occurring in relation to the minimum wag increase.

    That LA Minimum Wage Really Is Causing Job Losses You Know

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/ti.....-you-know/

    HEY GOLDY, Tim Worstall WROTE ABOUT IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    He even mentioned Mark Perry in the process.

    That oughta do it.

  26. 26

    Hey lookie here… Another illegal alien rapist! http://www.breitbart.com/big-g.....-carolina/

    No further information on Andres-Jose’s case is available because the same media declaring that there is no illegal alien crime wave work hard to cover it up. As Breitbart News has exhaustively documented, 70,000 sex offenses could have been prevented if existing immigration laws had been enforced.

    And a certainmonomaniacal moronic moonbattic memoryless ABSOLUTELY clueless crazed cretin said what about Breitbart again?

    Puddy, nothing newsworthy here… Just another latino doing something heinous!

  29. 29

    Travis@28,

    Puddy discussed this here… http://horsesass.org/open-thre.....nt-1288163

    But Rusty Hicks, who heads the county Federation of Labor and helps lead the Raise the Wage coalition, said Tuesday night that companies with workers represented by unions should have leeway to negotiate a wage below that mandated by the law.

  32. 32

    Seems Obummer has stopped the CDC from providing abortion statistics after 2011. So Puddy went back to 2011.

    Planned Parenthood abortions 333,964
    Total US abortions 1.06 million from Guttmacher and CDC data

    = 31.5% of all abortions done by PP

  33. 33

    HA’s latest “Trump”eter, the monomaniacal moronic moonbattic memoryless ABSOLUTELY clueless crazed cretin yellowishleakingbuttspigot absolutely neurotic low IQ arschloch @30 admits it! If Trump says it the monomaniacal moronic moonbattic memoryless ABSOLUTELY clueless crazed cretin yellowishleakingbuttspigot absolutely neurotic low IQ arschloch believes it!

    Thanks for playing

  34. 34

    @ 29

    I’ve brought it up previously as well although unless I have a specific memory of where to look I’m not very good at searching HA.

    Fortunately, I’ve got YLB and Steve as my wayback machine.

  35. 35

    Wonder what the over/under is on the number of hours the raw chicken has been sitting out at Roanoke Park Place Tavern today.

    Wonder if this will be deleted.

  36. 36

    @34,

    You discussed it after I did! Read the thread. Stupid Solution Steve and the monomaniacal moronic moonbattic memoryless ABSOLUTELY clueless crazed cretin are the whackjob duo crew!

  37. 37

    Bernie Sanders criticizing the Media today for talking about Walker hitting kid in the head with football as news, when there are so many other pressing issues.

    Well, Bernie get a load of the Boob and the Ape – they really have a lot of concern about important issues.

  40. 40

    Lindsey Graham is a war-mongering idiot but he’s 100 percent right about Trump:

    “If Donald Trump is the nominee, that’s the end of the Republican Party,” Graham said.

    Graham was defending his dismal numbers in his home state of South Carolina, where the latest poll showed him earning 4 percent of likely Republican primary voters to Trump’s 30 percent.

    Graham continued his attack, criticizing Trump’s lack of military and foreign policy experience.

    “He’s shallow. He’s ill-prepared to be commander in chief,” the retired Air Force colonel told CNN. “He’s a complete idiot when it comes to Mideast policy.”

    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/l.....ican-party

    LMAO!!! Poor Lindsey Graham finding out the hard way about the low information voters in his state – the epitome of klownservatics!

  41. 41

    Wow,

    Lookie here Travis… One of the “F” team appeared in #39 & 40!

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

    The monomaniacal moronic moonbattic memoryless ABSOLUTELY clueless crazed cretin is not only a “Trump”eter butt also a “Graham Cracker”!

    Who knew?

  45. 45

    An anti-Christie PAC hangs it up…

    Our decision to cease and desist as a PAC is not due to your letter, but instead is based on recent polling and the miserable showing of the candidate in question (namely Chris Christie).Our committee believes that Mr. Christie has already performed the service of stopping his campaign in spirit, (without our aid) even if not by the letter of the law.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....-for-them/

    My favorite klownservatics are their own worst enemies.

  46. 46

    Wow,

    Lookie here Travis… The “F” team appeared in #42 – 45!

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

    The monomaniacal moronic moonbattic memoryless ABSOLUTELY clueless crazed cretin is not only a “Trump”eter butt also a “Graham Cracker”! And he’s still going!

    Who knew?

  48. 48

    Where did Ben eat the pork monomaniacal moronic moonbattic memoryless ABSOLUTELY clueless crazed cretin yellowishleakingbuttspigot absolutely neurotic low IQ arschloch? Every candidate stopped by that location!

    Jesus ate with the “so called” sinners, those DUMMOCRETINS would scoff at just like the pharisees. In fact it seems DUMMOCRETINS like you monomaniacal moronic moonbattic memoryless ABSOLUTELY clueless crazed cretin yellowishleakingbuttspigot absolutely neurotic low IQ arschloch are acting more and pharisees every day!

    Sux when your candidates are tired and worn and under investigation!

  49. 49

    Speaking of libtards like the monomaniacal moronic moonbattic memoryless ABSOLUTELY clueless crazed cretin yellowishleakingbuttspigot absolutely neurotic low IQ arschloch, Kelly Osbourne the rocker daughter of Ozzy Osbourne said, “If you were to kick every Latino out of this country, then who is going to clean your toilet, Donald Trump?

    Puddy suggests the monomaniacal moronic moonbattic memoryless ABSOLUTELY clueless crazed cretin!

    HEH HEH HEH

  50. 50

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

    The monomaniacal moronic moonbattic memoryless ABSOLUTELY clueless crazed cretin is not only a “Trump”eter butt also a “Graham Cracker”! And he’s still going!

    Who knew?

  55. 55

    Seems the butthead monomaniacal moronic moonbattic memoryless ABSOLUTELY clueless crazed cretin yellowishleakingbuttspigot absolutely neurotic low IQ arschloch isn’t making much sense on Ben Carson… http://www.realclearpolitics.c.....ay_it.html

    Ben tells the truth!

  57. 57

    http://newsbusters.org/blogs/n.....ill-blasts

    Lemon also pointed out how “critics [are] calling you everything but a child of God. They are calling you a white man’s bed – and this a harsh language; I warn everyone – ‘white men’s bed wench’ – even a house nigger.” He asked, “What do you say to them?” Hubbard bluntly replied, “Bite me. I’m not afraid to speak my mind. If they want to say that, knock yourself out – freedom of speech. But the truth hurts, and they know – deep down inside, they know I am telling the truth.”

    PuddyCommentary: What racist horsemanure coming from DUMMOCRETINS! Did headless lucy tweet in on Hubbard? Of course the race baiter Marc Hill has nothing useful to say so go nasty progressive on her!

    DUMMOCRETINS are SCUM!

    http://newsbusters.org/blogs/n.....ill-blasts

  58. 58

    So will checkmate and his twin the teabaggin buttbusting BULLSHITTIUM buttbigot gorilla run to make first blog comments on the Wednesday stock market?

    Meanwhile the early onset senile schismatic IDIOT Wabbit has been awfully qwiet regarding the stock market. Maybe today will be a good day for the early onset senile schismatic IDIOT Wabbit!

  61. 61

    @60,

    Stupid Solution Steve hates FACTS. Continually a shallow understanding of TRUTH makes him batshit fucking crazy. So Triple S projects it on others.

    FACTS – Always a massive headache and delivering traumatic brain injuries to DUMMOCRETINS each day!

  62. 62

    @60,

    That’s why Puddy continues to make DUMMOCRETIN heads go

    KAAAAAAAAAAAAABLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMMOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

  64. 64

    @20

    Luch was just fine. The buy and hold on nflx is doing just fine. Spent some time last night looking for other decnt deals. One account is taking a beating but that’s my long term equity so I’m not worried and everything else is down slightly and I will probably be able to erase my losses with things like buying nflx @ 90 and having it over 104 two days later. Increasing BayerAG seems to be working too. As people and farm animals still get sick…

    But yesterday was weird. We’ll see if the end of the day today is just as weird.

  66. 66

    Where did Ben eat the pork

    LMAO!!! SDAs must envy the Mormons. Mormons serve coffee in their restaurants and sell porn in the rooms of their hospitality businesses.

    Are SDAs pork farmers? Do SDA pork farmers proudly wear aprons with “Pork. Be inspired” on their persons. Apparently so.

    Poor jackass. Carson INHALED the pork. The pork DEFILED the BODY of the power craving fool through the nose and lungs!

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