Drinking Liberally — Seattle

DLBottleJoin us at the Seattle chapter of Drinking Liberally for an evening of politics under the influence. We begin at 8:00 pm at the Montlake Ale House, 2307 24th Avenue E, but some of us will be there early for Dinner.

Tonight we will welcome back a contingent of Pacific Northwest bloggers from Netroot Nation and commend them for braving the 100 degree Texas heat and suffering for want of a proper caffè latte (or even a good cup of joe).

For tonight’s theme song, we’ll raise a toast and sing a ditty in honor of “not our fault” FEMA, with this Bob Dylan classic.

If you find yourself in the Tri-Cities area this evening, check out McCranium for the local Drinking Liberally. Otherwise, check out the Drinking Liberally web site for dates and times of a chapter near you.


  1. 1

    Mark1 spews:

    Roger Rodent will not attend, as he was just released from the hospital recovering from a massive panic attack over not being able to post on this site for a bit. I hear he’s better now and sedated.

  2. 3

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @2 I called in a tip to the Seattle PD hotline that there’s a guy driving on 25th E. while talking on his cell phone.

  3. 4

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @1 I made $800 in the stock market today so eat your fucking heart out while riding the bus to your night janitor job.

  4. 5

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @1 “Roger Rodent will not attend, as he was just released from the hospital recovering from a massive panic attack over not being able to post on this site for a bit. I hear he’s better now and sedated.”

    See comment threads of Hominid Views.

  5. 6

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Someone went to a lot of trouble to shut this blog down. It means we’re doing our job well! We’re a threat to those bastards! And now that we’re back up, we will continue to expose the lies and thievery of the GOP/Nazi Party.

  6. 7

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Oil was down $3.40 today at $128.42, and has now eased nearly $20 in the last 10 days, yet there has been no change in supply, demand, or international tensions. Smells like MANIPULATION to me! And the Bush administration saw no evil, heard no evil, and spoke no regulation while price gougers emptied Americans’ wallets.

  7. 8

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    While market manipulators make off with trillions, our Republican prosecutor will go after a couple guys who stole the bank accounts of 75 people who used debit cards at a Puyallup gas station — and then call it a day.

  8. 9

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    According to the fishwrapper, 113 people have been ticketed for talking on their cellphones while driving. It’s about to become 114 — see #’s 2 and 3 above.

  9. 10

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    So, Ward, what’s your excuse for talking on your cellphone while driving? You’re breaking the law, you know. Are you one of those oh-so-typical Republicans who think they’re above the law? That you only have to follow rules you like? Are you gonna show up at DL, imbibe a few, then talk on your cellphone and drive drunk? You could avoid both problems and help the environment if you rode a fucking bus! But that would make you a liberal, wouldn’t it? So I’m not gonna hold my breath.

  10. 11

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    If the Russians did it, we should nuke the bastards. If the BIAW did it, we should use a cruise missile with a conventional warhead so we don’t take out any Democrats.*

    * Hey just kidding! Ann Coulter humor.

  11. 12

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @1 Nah, I took it in stride. I’ve e-mailed Goldy to complain only 36 times since Saturday.

  12. 14

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @13 Rabbits aren’t supposed to be charming. We have only 3 important functions: Eat, shit, and reproduce. If you want charm look up “Finishing Schools” in the Yellow Pages.

  13. 15

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Mrs. Rabbit wants to know if “BIAW” stands for “Big Inbred Ass Wipes.”

    I told her not officially but that’s close enough.

  14. 17

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Newsweek: McCain Ad “Ridiculous”

    Newsweek Magazine calls bullshit on a McCain TV ad:

    “McCain’s new ad accuses Obama of keeping gas prices high, all by himself. That’s absurd, and McCain knows it – he has said repeatedly that our current problems were ’30 years in the making.'”

    (Quoted under fair use.)

    Roger Rabbit Commentary: 30 years ago was 1978. McCain is off by 3 years. Our current problems began in 1981 when Saint Ronnie dismantled Jimmy Carter’s energy program. Ever since then, the GOP’s energy platform has consisted of paying ransom for hostages and borrowing money from the Chinese to buy overpriced oil from the Arabs.

  15. 18

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    McCain is also complaining about the media coverage Obama’s trip is getting. Rumors are floating around that he’ll try to upstage Obama and grab the front page by naming Romney his veep choice this week.

  16. 19

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    McCain doesn’t need to be real picky about filling the #2 spot on his ticket. For one thing, he isn’t going to win. And any kid who’s worked at McDonald’s for a week knows more about economics than he does.

  17. 20

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    In the McCain family, Cindy irons the pants — and wears ‘em. When she’s in a good mood, she gives McCain a five for spending money.

  18. 22

    Marvin Stamn spews:

    NBC reporter andrea mitchell is spilling the beans on the obama tour.
    Let me just say something about the message management.  He didn’t have reporters with him, he didn’t have a press pool, he didn’t do a press conference while he was on the ground in either Afghanistan or Iraq. What you’re seeing is not reporters brought in.  You’re seeing selected pictures taken by the military, questions by the military, and what some would call fake interviews, because they’re not interviews from a journalist.  So, there’s a real press issue here.  Politically it’s smart as can be.  But we’ve not seen a presidential candidate do this, in my recollection, ever before.
    Never before? Not even bush? Ouch!! That’s got to leave a mark.
    Change… change on a daily basis.

  19. 23

    Marvin Stamn spews:

    What?? John edwards is caught cheating on his wife as she battles cancer.? Well, at least he’s not the democrat nominee. Probably takes him out of the running for veep.
    Shocked to see a reporter, and without saying anything, Edwards ran up the stairs leading from the hotel basement to the lobby. But, spotting a photographer, he doubled back into the basement. As he emerged from the stairwell, reporter Butterfield questioned him about his hookup with Rielle.
Edwards did not answer and then ran  into a nearby restroom. He stayed inside for about 15 minutes, refusing to answer questions
    Democrat family values. Cheat on your wife and impregnate your mistress while your wife is suffering from cancer.

  20. 24

    Marvin Stamn spews:

    Hey mr busdriver, watch out, another obama supporter is soon to be thrown under your bus.

    Billionaire Penny Pritzker helped run Hinsdale, Ill.-based Superior, overseeing her family’s 50% ownership stake. She now serves as Barack Obama’s national campaign-finance chairwoman, which means her banking past could prove to be an embarrassment to her — and perhaps to the campaign.

    Superior was seized in 2001 and later closed by federal regulators. Government investigators and consumer advocates have contended that Superior engaged in unsound financial activities and predatory lending practices. Ms. Pritzker, a longtime friend and supporter of Sen. Obama, served for a time as Superior’s chairman, and later sat on the board of its holding company.

    Sen. Obama has long criticized predatory subprime mortgage lenders and urged strong actions against them.

    It’s good to know that the common folks are contributing to obama, it helps defray the cost for the billionaires. Shouldn’t billionaires have to pay their fair share?

    Of course he’s going to take strong action. like strongly look the other way as she helps raise $$

    Superior’s failure could still cost the federal deposit insurance fund tens of millions of dollars or more. And hundreds of people whose deposits exceeded federal insurance limits, such as Ms. Sweet, are still out millions of dollars

    Cool, taxpayers get to pick up the tab for the failings of a democrat billionaire. Nothing like welfare for the rich.

  21. 25

    Marvin Stamn spews:

    The latest Rasmussen Reports telephone survey found that 49% of voters believe most reporters will try to help Obama with their coverage, up from 44% a month ago.

    A separate survey released this morning also found that 50% of voters believe most reporters want to make the economy seem worse than it is. A plurality believes that the media has also tried to make the war in Iraq appear worse that it really is.

    In a more general sense, 45% say that most reporters would hide information if it hurt the candidate they wanted to win.

    As time goes by, more people see the bias in the media for obama. What a shocker. Shocked not at the truth but that yahoo didn’t hide the information to protect obama and the democrats.
    That other survey that said 50% of voters believe most reporters make the economy and war worse than it it is going to hurt in another couple months as that % rises. How can obama overcome the damage the media is doing to him.

  22. 27

    ByeByeGOP spews:

    Let’s see – I do want to talk about cheating on your wife – because it’s a family value we learned from the “GOP.” In remarkably similar circumstances to the bullshit made up by baby raper Marv above, we have 1023 year old, Viet Cong-lovin Flip Flop McCain who came back from Nam after helping the enemy for five years to find his sick wife (i.e., disfigured from a car accident.) What’s he do? He finds this cunt/whore SINdee and has an affair with her and leaves his wife in distress. But this is just the tip of the iceberg – the asshole is STILL having affairs with lobbyists in his campaign. And of course let’s not forget the right wing hero, Ronnie Raygun. This piece of work cheats on his wife with – HIS BEST FRIEND’S WIFE! So he manages to break up not one but TWO relationships. That old whore Nancy eventually marries him and none of this seems to bother the right wing family values types.

  23. 30

    michael spews:


    The National Enquirer? You’ve got to be kidding me. Plus, the man isn’t in office and isn’t running for anything, and never ran on a “family values” platform so leave him alone.

    The Republican’s on the other hand seem to have issues with running anti-gay, anti-cheating campaigns and then getting caught cheating with same sex partners. Oops.

    And don’t go nattering about Bill Clinton either. The man hasn’t been in office for forever and knew he couldn’t keep it in his pants when we elected him.

  24. 31

    ByeByeGOP spews:

    Just think – if 1023 year old Flip Flop McCain is going call 1-800-Crybaby WAAAH every time the media isn’t “fair” to him, how’s he going to stand up to Iran?

    This whining little bitch didn’t have the courage to stand up to the VC and now he can’t even handle The New York Times.

    And for four decades this is one of the memes the republicans have tried. Yet nobody talks about how the Faux News Channel is completely controlled by the RNC – how the Washington Times, Wall Street Journal, etc. are all in the tank for the right!

  25. 33

    Mr. Cynical spews:

    4. Roger Rabbit spews:
    “@1 I made $800 in the stock market today so eat your fucking heart out while riding the bus to your night janitor job.”

    What about your lecture to me about the horrors of stock market profiteering??

    By the way, back in to Wells Fargo last Friday @ $26.66.
    Eat your heart out silly rabbit!

  26. 34

    Mr. Cynical spews:

    You are more & more like Algore daily.
    Others can’t profit in the stock market, are evil and must have inside info….but it’s OK for you.

    Just like Algore. We all must live like Bohemians & Luddites…except him with his massive home, flying around etc.

    We need to start calling you Algore Rabbit!

  27. 35

    Daddy Love spews:

    17 RR

    Of course, the guy who’s been legislating in Washington for 26 of the last 30 years is–John McCain.

  28. 36

    Daddy Love spews:

    McCain’s sunk. Obama is the new national security candidate. The blessing that Iraq gave to Obama’s withdrawal plan plus McCain himself encorsing Obama’s stance on Afghanistan have sealed the deal. McCain’s signature issue now belongs to the other guy.

    What’s McCain going to run on now–the economy?

  29. 38

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    It’s not even 8 a.m. yet, and I’ve already made $720 in the stock market this morning, which is the same thing as going to a $90-an-hour job except I get a 2/3rds discount on my income discount for flipping stocks instead of working and producing something. Obviously, the GOP/Nazi congress that wrote this crazy tax law doesn’t want people to work! You’re better off to own stuff and let Chinese political prisoners do all the work!

    Meanwhile, in Dallas, the usurper said “Wall Street got drunk” and has a hangover, and added there’s no housing problem in Texas because his wife, Laura Killed A Guy, isn’t having any trouble buying a house in Houston. (Laughs from attendees at private fundraiser where he told everyone to turn off their video cameras, but somebody didn’t ha ha.) fundraiser)

  30. 39

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Too bad Mr. Cynical sold his Wells Fargo too soon. It’s up over $1.50 today and is now almost $32. By flipping 4,000 shares at $24 he lost $32,000 of profit. Turns out he can’t time the market or individual stocks any better than the rest of us!

  31. 41

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    It’s not surprising that our super-rich presiding chimp made fun of the millions of people now suffering economic distress at a private gathering of his super-rich friends. After all, this is the same insensitive jerk who mocked a woman facing execution.

    The story, by the way, was carried as a headline by AOL News this morning. You won’t find it in Frank Blethen’s pathetic little fishwrapper, though. He doesn’t consider the disgusting behavior of the escaped laboratory monkey he endorsed for president to be “news.” Plus he’s too busy running special features about Gregoire’s spending increases.

    Speaking of which, one of his readers asked why his paper doesn’t mention the improvements to education and law enforcement that spending bought.

    Meanwhile, another ignorant fishwrapper reader wants to know why our roads are in such bad shape following the gas tax increase. Well, I can think of 2 reasons, jackass: One, the gas tax increase wasn’t intended to fix potholes, it was budgeted for hundreds of specific projects and you can find out what they are if you’re not too fucking lazy to read WSDOT’s web site. And two, people are buying less gas because of the high gas prices that have resulted from market manipulation under an administration that doesn’t believe in regulating anybody or anything, which means less gas tax money is coming into state accounts, plus the price of asphalt has doubled thanks to high oil prices and the inflation in construction materials that resulted from the fact that this administration sent all our jobs and money to China, which is building stuff like crazy with what used to be American consumers’ money.

    Anyone who still votes Republican after all this shit not only should have their citizenship revoked but should also be jailed.

  32. 42

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Splitsville for the Bushes?

    So why is Laura Killed A Guy buying a house in Houston when her husband plans to retire to his ranch in Crawford? And what are Condi’s plans? Where’s she gonna be? In Cindy Sheehan’s Crawford digs? Hey, I’m not trying to start any racy rumors here, the tabloids started the rumors, I’m only wondering why Laura Killed A Guy needs a house in Houston.

  33. 43

    Daddy Love spews:

    I know that it’s required if you are a Republican candidate, but John McCain is such a liar. Now he’s tying to claim that his precious “surge,” without which he apparently has no reason to run for president, caused the so-called “Anbar Awakening!”

    Of course, the Anbar Awakening began in mid-2006, and because of it our troops left Anbar in February 2007, well before the surge troops arrived (troops who never went to Anbar at all). I even remember Republicans at the time of the surge insisting that we could not consider the surge to have begun until the LAST of the surge troops arrived in June 2007.

    Now it IS true that the Anbar Awakening was helped along by a “surge” of American dollars into the pockets of Anbar sheiks to keep them from shooting at us and persuading them to shoot at al Qaeda. It’s also true that at about the same time (June 2006) Sayyid Moqtada al-Sadr called for JAM to cease military operations in the famouns “truce.” Those factors, along with:
    – the completion of Baghdad’s ehtnic cleansing and ehtnic partitioning
    – an uptick in refugees out of troubled areas
    – the physical partitioning of Baghdad by a ridiculously disruptive series of blast walls and wire
    – the five-brigade increase in “surge” troops

    …resulted in a period of relative quiet that John McCain points to now as the “success” of the “surge.”

    So things are better, now it’s time to go, right? Not if you’re John McCain. Hell, it doesn’t matter to him that the Iraqi government, the Iraqi people, AND the American people want us to get out.

    That’s why he will lose the election. Well, if you don’t count his abject and pathetic incompetence in any area other than tactical military operations. Not much need for that in the mortgage market, I hear.

  34. 44

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Is it true that rich white guys used to screw their black slaves? You know, long ago — back when blacks and women were considered chattel property. Just wondering.

  35. 46

    Daddy Love spews:

    John McCain likes to talk about “defeating the enemy” In Iraq, when all we’re really trying to do there is to keep Iraqis from killing each other and from killing our soldiers. You could argue that those who are trying to kill our soldiers are by definition “the enemy,” but I think you might take a moment to remember that we are the Occupation army.

    Of course they’re shooting at us. It’s why we should leave. There is not an American military solution to Iraqi political problems.

    “There is no military solution to a problem like that in Iraq, to the insurgency of Iraq.”
    David Petraeus

  36. 47

    Daddy Love spews:

    If you’ve ever seen or heard ads for the local mortgage broker Paramount Equity Mortgage: the Washington state Department of Financial Institutions charged the company with collecting unearned fees, hiding fees from borrowers, charging consumers to buy down interest rates without reducing the rate and not making certain fee disclosures. The state wants to revoke their license and fine the company $500,000 over deceptive lending practices.

    But when people can’t pay their mortgages, blame the borrowers, not the lenders, right Dino?

  37. 48

    W. Klingon Skousen spews:

    re 24: Why are you more interested in what people think rather than what really is?

    Is that because you believe that: “Perception is reality.”?

    It isn’t.

    No matter how many times you say ‘War on Terror’ or ask people what they think about the ‘War on Terror’, there will never actually be a war on terror. You can’t make war on a military tactic. So, your real purpose is to CREATE terror. That makes you the terrorist. We should make war on you — you filthy terrorist.

    So, your agenda is, obviously, to manipulate. That is why your interest is in ‘what people think.’ And, you always say it so triumphantly.

    “Look at this poll”, you say, “see how many people believe our bullshit?”

    Problem is, you have begun to believe it yourself.

  38. 49

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @46 Given Paramount’s very heavy radio advertising (which isn’t free), I suspected something might be fishy about that outfit. Good companies don’t have to bombard the airwaves to drum up business. If you treat customers right, they’ll come by word of mouth.

  39. 50

    Marvin Stamn spews:

    44. Roger Rabbit spews:
    Is it true that rich white guys used to screw their black slaves? You know, long ago — back when blacks and women were considered chattel property. Just wondering.

    I wouldn’t put anything past those racist democrat slave owners.
    Maybe since al gore’s family owned a tobacco plantation and slaves he might be a good one to answer.
    Has al gore jr. ever apologized for his daddy trying to fillerbuster the civil rights act?

  40. 51

    Marvin Stamn spews:

    45. Roger Rabbit spews:
    Does anyone know why Republicans are so fond of 19th century ideas and values?

    I thought it was the democrats that believed in wind power.
    well, except for the rich democrats like teddy kennedy.

  41. 52

    Marvin Stamn spews:

    The committee hosting the Democratic National Convention has used the city’s gas pumps to fill up and apparently avoided paying state and federal fuel taxes.
    The practice, which began four months ago, may have ended hours after its disclosure

    Who would have thought that democrats were not paying their fair share of taxes.
    could be reimbursed by the host committee for use of “fueling facilities, fuel and car washes.”
    Yup, nothing like a drought to prove who cares about the planet. Of course, there are penalties for the common folk to waste water washing their cars, but when you’re a member of the elite ruling class the laws don’t apply.

  42. 53

    Tukow spews:

    The blessing that Iraq gave to Obama’s withdrawal plan plus McCain himself encorsing Obama’s stance on Afghanistan have sealed the deal.

    You’re blessed with a truly unique ability to simplify complex issues.

  43. 54

    Mr. Cynical spews:

    39. Roger Rabbit spews:
    “Too bad Mr. Cynical sold his Wells Fargo too soon. It’s up over $1.50 today and is now almost $32. By flipping 4,000 shares at $24 he lost $32,000 of profit. Turns out he can’t time the market or individual stocks any better than the rest of us!
    07/23/2008 at 8:00 am”

    Get yer facts right.
    I made $24,400 in a couple of days.
    Then bought back in last Friday @ $26.66

    I see BOOM finally rose today. Congrats.
    However your NOV tanked..and IBM dropped too.
    1 out of 3 today Rog.
    Somehow you make lots of money everyday despite 2 of 3 stocks declining,
    \Are you BS’ing us Rog??

    Short-term Capital Gains ARE taxed at same rate as earned income.
    No discount.

  44. 55

    GBS spews:

    39. Roger Rabbit spews:

    Too bad Mr. Cynical sold his Wells Fargo too soon. It’s up over $1.50 today and is now almost $32. By flipping 4,000 shares at $24 he lost $32,000 of profit. Turns out he can’t time the market or individual stocks any better than the rest of us!

    Roger, I hate to say this but being a Liberal honesty compels me.

    Mr. Cynical’s broker timed the market perfectly. He made significant gain in a short period of time, hit is profit target and got out of the trade.

    That is text book perfect trading. Those who try to squeeze every last penny out a trade are the ones who wind up losing.

    There are two axioms in investing that will always be true:
    “Bulls and bears make money, but pigs get slaughtered.”
    Moral: get greedy and you lose.

    The other is:
    “The trend is your friend until the bend at the end.”
    Moral: Get on the trend too late, and get off too early and enjoy the profits in the fat middle of the trend. Trying to pick the tops and bottoms is like trying to catch a falling knife. Not a good idea.

  45. 56

    Politically Incorrect spews:

    All good points, GBS. While we hear from some of the usual suspects about how well they’re doing with a particular stock, we don’t really hear much about the overall portfolios. Are they building wealth or are they participating in a hobby?

    Excel’s XIRR function is an excellent and easy to use spreadsheet formula to see how one is doing with one’s portfolio of wealth. Check it out. I think a lot of these “wonderful” stock pickers that pontificate here may be surprised at how poorly they may be doing in terms of an overall portfolio of securities.