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by Goldy — Thursday, 10/19/06, 10:12 pm

I desperately needed to veg out tonight, so I popped open a beer and turned on the tube — and the first thing that flashed across the screen was a Mike?™ McGavick ad.

Hmm. Apparently, he’s running for CEO of Safeco. Best of luck, Mike.

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  1. Doctor JCH Kennedy, ESQ spews:

    Thursday, 10/19/06 at 10:32 pm

    GBS, recruits out of “A” schools are “push button” E4s!!! After several years, you were an E3!!!! Total shitbird, and certainly not retained!!! A SEAL??? Right!!!! ROTFLMAO!!!!!

  2. Doctor JCH Kennedy, ESQ spews:

    Thursday, 10/19/06 at 10:35 pm

    Gary Studds is dead. “Tookie” Williams is dead. Very sad for GBS, Daddy Love, and other gay Democrats.

    Question: May Gary and “Tookie” still vote Democrat, and may Democrats bus their dead bodies from poll to poll to vote Democrat as needed?

  3. Doctor JCH Kennedy, ESQ spews:

    Thursday, 10/19/06 at 10:37 pm

    Maybe Pam will decide to send her drug addict son to Iraq to fight in America’s
    so-called War On Terror? NAH!

    Commentby RightEqualsStupid— […………………………………………………………………….Remember when Al Gore’s son was stopped doing 85 in a 55 with drugs in the car? Just “axing”……]

  4. CoolAqua spews:

    Thursday, 10/19/06 at 10:39 pm

    If Mike wants to spend his money for ads like that, its fine with me!!

  5. Doctor JCH Kennedy, ESQ spews:

    Thursday, 10/19/06 at 10:47 pm

    Dear Illegals, Minutemen and the US Border Patrol will be at EVERY voting station!!! Try to vote, and get a free ride back to Mexicoland!!!!! Best regards, JCH

  6. floor monitor spews:

    Thursday, 10/19/06 at 10:48 pm

    Goldy,

    Stay sober enough to be aware if the dog pees on the floor or whatever.

  7. Goldy spews:

    Thursday, 10/19/06 at 10:50 pm

    floor monitor…

    I think I can handle 11 ounces of beer.

    (That’s a hint. Anybody know which brand of beer I was drinking?)

  8. Doctor JCH Kennedy, ESQ spews:

    Thursday, 10/19/06 at 10:51 pm

    JCH, [If I was a black Democrat, Big Island, Hawaii]: “Where’s ma mofo FEMA trailer? Where’s ma guvment credit card? Where’s ma guvment check? Bush made da earthquake!! He owes me!! Eyes gotsa gets ma KFC, ma Black Velvet, and ma King Cobra!! Eyes gots da 42 inch plasma SONY HDTV by lootin da Best Buy in Hilo!! But what about ma “surround sound”!! I be votin Democrat, so I bees gettin da mofo check NOW!! You white devils owes me!!!” …………………………………………………………………………….. […………………………………………………………………………Sorry, but I’m a Republican. I take responsibility for myself and my property. Insurance, sweat equity, and an “I’ll clean up myself” attitude!!! Fuck you Democrat “Victims”!!!! You are nothing but social parasites!!!!!!! JCH]

  9. Frank spews:

    Thursday, 10/19/06 at 10:51 pm

    I can’t WAIT to see Doc crying like a little baby on November 7. Can’t WAIT.

    Now shoo… don’t you have some border to patrol???

  10. floor monitor spews:

    Thursday, 10/19/06 at 10:54 pm

    a good micro loaded with hops, I would hope.

  11. Doctor JCH Kennedy, ESQ spews:

    Thursday, 10/19/06 at 10:57 pm

    Voter ID: 20% less democrat votes [Democrats: masters of voter fraud]

  12. me spews:

    Thursday, 10/19/06 at 11:20 pm

    the good doctor seems a bit more crazed than usual.

  13. A concerned Democrat spews:

    Thursday, 10/19/06 at 11:25 pm

    11

    I will stop bringing up diebold if you stop bringing up voter IDs at the polls. Deal? Well at least until we dems lose. Then I have the right to make shit up again.

  14. Y\'all are better than this spews:

    Friday, 10/20/06 at 12:16 am

    can we have less swearing here? One feels the need to shower after going to this site

  15. FreeSpeech spews:

    Friday, 10/20/06 at 1:03 am

    Traitorous Democrats barred from further national intelligence committees for leaking national inelligence information.

  16. Doctor JCH Kennedy, ESQ spews:

    Friday, 10/20/06 at 1:12 am

    I will stop bringing up diebold if you stop bringing up voter IDs at the polls. Deal? Well at least until we dems lose. Then I have the right to make shit up again.

    Commentby A concerned Democrat […………OK, let’s talk!!!!!……..Voter machines bought in Democrat districts, maintained by Democrats, transported by Democrats to Democrat controlled polling places staffed by Democrats, and somehow, those evil Republican fucked with the Diebolds!! You libs are fucking clueless to think anyone who can think would buy your bull shit.]

  17. Doctor JCH Kennedy, ESQ spews:

    Friday, 10/20/06 at 1:14 am

    Gary Studds is dead. “Tookie” Williams is dead. Very sad for GBS, Daddy Love, and other gay Democrats.

    Question: May Gary and “Tookie” still vote Democrat, and may Democrats bus their dead bodies from poll to poll as needed?

  18. Daddy Love spews:

    Friday, 10/20/06 at 5:37 am

    2 JCH

    No, we’re going to bus YOUR dead body from precinct to precinct.

  19. Daddy Love spews:

    Friday, 10/20/06 at 5:39 am

    14 Y’all

    Fuck you and your need to control other people’s actions. Republican?

  20. Daddy Love spews:

    Friday, 10/20/06 at 5:53 am

    Mike’s ad guys aren’t the worst I’ve ever seen. McGavick has been trying to tap the widespread anti-incumbent sentiment, which some polls show is stronger in the generic anti-incumbent sense than it is specifically anti-Republican. In this ad, he hijacks the recent Democratic focus on “the common good” for himself. It’s an opportunistic and non-ideological approach that he no doubt hopes will help him get over the hurdles of running as a Republican in a Blue state and in a year that’s bad for is party. I get it; it’s clever.

    Don’t think it’s going to work.

  21. Daddy Love spews:

    Friday, 10/20/06 at 5:56 am

    Mike’s ads lack focus. He has tried and discarded like four different aproaches and messages during the course of this capaign. He lacks a unified theme, and it looks like his campaign doesn’t really know what it’s about. He comes off as too opportunistic, and of course, he was out there loudly lying about his “character” early on while the opposite was being reported in the press. Not good for him.

  22. Facts Support My Positions spews:

    Friday, 10/20/06 at 6:35 am

    #16 Funny how you wingnuts want to call the people that let the American Citizens know what is really happening in Iraq traitors, and let the people that caused this problem off the hook. If Bush, and his gang of liars, traitors, and crooks were being honest with us, instead of pounding us with lie, after lie, after false hope, after lie, there would be no need to give a document like this to the press.

    Bush has to lie to retarded sheep like the average Republican tool. If he actually told the truth, you would want to hang either him, or yourself.

    Thank God I am not a Republican any more.

    I can sleep soundly knowing ALL FACTS SUPPORT MY POSITIONS, if you know what I mean.

    So now rightie, do you think the American People have the right to know if our president’s actions are actually creating more terrorists, or are we supposed to just listen to him lie to us, and “trust” him?

    If you still “trust” Bush, please post your address, so we can send over the folks with the straight jacket, and take you to a happy place where you can wear pajamas all day!!!!

    Oh by the way wingnuts. You may want to watch Iraq For Sale. You many start to understand why we invaded….. and where your prescious tax dollars go…..

  23. GBS spews:

    Friday, 10/20/06 at 6:45 am

    JCH @ 1:

    Somebody’s angry. Did you learn a new term while surfing military web sites in order to try and look like you know something about the military?

    Hmmmmm. . . yeah, OK there little man, go play with your Puddle Pirate friends. On “pirate” ships you don’t have to worry about the material condition of your ship when you’re at GQ, do you.

    JCH is a lying loser.

  24. GBS spews:

    Friday, 10/20/06 at 6:46 am

    He who laughs last laughs best. One thing for certain a Nancy Pelosi with subpeona powers will be hillarious!!

  25. headless lucy spews:

    Friday, 10/20/06 at 6:59 am

    What dastardly trick will the Repubs. pull at the last minute to pull their nuts out of the fire? There’s always the martial law route. That’s what I’m expecting.

  26. headless lucy spews:

    Friday, 10/20/06 at 6:59 am

    And Diebold.

  27. Daddy Love spews:

    Friday, 10/20/06 at 7:08 am

    27 Facts

    Not a criticism, but…
    A “staight” jacket is one that presumably is not tailored to uhg the body.

    A “strait” jacket is one that binds the arms tightly to the body to prevent movement, as a “strait” is a narrowing in a body of water where two spits of land approach each other closely. Similarly, on can take the “strait and narrow” path, as Jesus said, “For wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction…strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life.”

    I’m kind of a word geek.

  28. RightEqualsStupid spews:

    Friday, 10/20/06 at 7:11 am

    http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/001846.php

    Nice little run down of just some of the latest criminal activity from the GOP and their minions of crooks, liars, peds and traitors.

  29. Robert spews:

    Friday, 10/20/06 at 7:28 am

    I’d love to see a poll of Safeco employees who served under McGimmick! and how they’d vote.

  30. Baecher spews:

    Friday, 10/20/06 at 7:47 am

    This time around the revolution will not be televised.

  31. jaybo spews:

    Friday, 10/20/06 at 7:51 am

    Since Goldy has gotten lazy, I’m going to start a thread for him.

    It appears to me that radical liberalism is dead or dying.

    Why do I say this?

    I will post articles that back up my statement, but the general point is that the Democratic Party has had to move to the right in order the compete in this election. The leadership has finally come to the realization that the majority of americans do not share the same values that Sen. Nancy Pelosi shares and a change was necessary.

    I believe that this is a good thing. We need a two party system that actually represents the overall population that has been changing and adopting more conservative values.

    This also is bad for the kos and move-on crowd because it means that they will be further marginalized even within the party they think represents them.

    I predict that the Democratic Party is moving towards an “idiological battle” that will redefine it for the future.

    Friday, Oct. 20, 2006 9:26 a.m. EDT
    Poll: Lieberman Leads by 17 Points
    Sen. Joe Lieberman has built a 17-point lead over Democratic challenger Ned Lamont, according to the first Quinnipiac University poll since the two faced off in a debate this week.
    Lieberman, running as an independent after losing the Aug. 8 Democratic primary to Lamont, leads the Greenwich businessman 52 percent to 35 percent among Connecticut likely voters in the poll released Friday. Republican Alan Schlesinger trailed with 6 percent, and 7 percent were undecided.
    A similar poll released on September 28 showed Lieberman with a 10-point lead.
    The debate between Lieberman and Lamont on Monday was their first since the August primary. Among those in the poll who watched the debate or read or heard about it, only 3 percent said it changed their minds.
    “Ned Lamont needed to score a knockout in the debates to catch Sen. Joseph Lieberman, but he apparently didn’t lay a glove on him,” poll director Douglas Schwartz said.

    The poll suggested that Lieberman’s support among Republicans and independent voters was substantial.
    Lieberman leads Lamont 70 percent to 9 percent among likely Republican voters, with 18 percent for Schlesinger, and 58-36 among likely independent voters. Likely Democratic voters back Lamont, 55 percent to 36 percent.
    The poll of 881 likely Connecticut voters, conducted from Oct. 17-19, has a sampling error margin of plus or minus 3.5 percentage points.
    © 2006 Associated Press.

    Pelosi no shoo-in for job as speaker
    By Charles Hurt
    THE WASHINGTON TIMES
    October 20, 2006
    Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi’s prospects for becoming the nation’s first female House speaker depend not only on a Democratic victory in November but also on her ability to prevent any Democrats from voting against her — primarily centrists opposed to her liberal stances.
    At least one Democratic House candidate has pledged not to support Mrs. Pelosi, and others in conservative districts have refused to commit their support — potentially leaving Mrs. Pelosi shy of the 218 votes required for the chamber’s top post.
    Democrat Charlie Stuart, who hopes to unseat Republican Rep. Ric Keller in Florida, already has said he opposes Mrs. Pelosi and would prefer Rep. Steny H. Hoyer, the more conservative No. 2 Democrat in the House whose strained relations with Mrs. Pelosi have been well-chronicled on Capitol Hill.
    “He’s a centrist,” Stuart spokeswoman Sultana Ali said of the Florida Democrat. “His values really are more in line with Steny Hoyer than Nancy Pelosi.”
    At least three other Democrats contacted by The Washington Times refused to commit their support to Mrs. Pelosi, whose San Francisco district is far more liberal than the districts that are up for grabs in this election.
    Ordinarily, a party’s leadership structure is set by the caucus in advance, and all members are expected go along with the decision. In the eight years Rep. J. Dennis Hastert, Illinois Republican, has been speaker, he’s never had a protest vote cast against him.
    Mrs. Pelosi, whose voting record is considerably more liberal than many of her fellow Democrats, has never enjoyed that luxury. In last year’s election for speaker, one Democrat opposed her for the top post. Four Democrats opposed her in 2003, with three of them simply voting “present” as a protest.
    Such protest votes are a sign of dissension within a party. But in the upcoming Congress — where Democrats could hold the majority by just one or two seats — any members who vote for someone other than Mrs. Pelosi or simply decide not to vote could trigger parliamentary mayhem.
    If Mrs. Pelosi were to fail to win, the speakership would go to the highest vote-getter, most likely Mr. Hastert. Democrats would later win it back by settling on a leader after an intraparty showdown that could pit Mrs. Pelosi against Mr. Hoyer.
    But many insiders say Mrs. Pelosi has already moved to protect herself from Mr. Hoyer by privately encouraging another conservative Democrat — Rep. John P. Murtha of Pennsylvania — to announce earlier this year he will run for the party’s No. 2 position if Democrats gain control of the chamber. Mr. Murtha, who is conservative on many issues but has lately become a hero of the left for demanding that troops be withdrawn from Iraq, is considered a formidable challenger.
    One of those who opposed Mrs. Pelosi in 2003 was former Rep. Ken Lucas, Kentucky Democrat, who retired the following year. Now he is trying to regain his seat from the Republican who replaced him, and Democrats list the race as among one of their most promising chances to pick up a seat in November.
    The Lucas campaign did not return several phone messages inquiring whether he would support Mrs. Pelosi for speaker.

    Rep. Gene Taylor, a conservative Democrat from Mississippi, refused to support Mrs. Pelosi in both past leadership elections. Each time, he has cast his protest vote for Mr. Murtha.
    Next year, however, Mr. Taylor said he would support Mrs. Pelosi, at least if his was the deciding vote.
    “If it comes down to Hastert or Pelosi, then I’m certainly not going to vote for Hastert,” he said. “I’m not going to vote against my own self-interest.”
    Mr. Taylor said that voters in his district — which went 66 percent for President Bush in 2000 — don’t have much in common with Mrs. Pelosi, who visited recently to survey the damage left by Hurricane Katrina.
    “People were very nice to her,” Mr. Taylor said.
    Heath Shuler, the former Washington Redskins quarterback who is challenging Rep. Charles H. Taylor in North Carolina, is another Democrat running in a conservative district who refuses to say whether he would support Mrs. Pelosi for speaker.
    “He will support whoever he thinks will best represent this district,” Shuler spokesman Andrew Whalen said.
    Mr. Taylor’s campaign — like vulnerable Republican campaigns in conservative districts across the country — has gone to some effort to smear the Democratic candidate by association to Mrs. Pelosi.
    Pelosi spokeswoman Jennifer Crider said it’s a campaign that won’t work.
    “Republicans are without a single winning issue, so it’s no wonder they are desperately trying to falsely smear a churchgoing grandmother who has made fiscal responsibility, bipartisanship and middle-class tax cuts a priority,” she said.
    In some races, such as Democrat Brad Ellsworth’s effort to unseat Republican Rep. John Hostettler in Indiana, the charge has become so heavy that the Democrat ran a television commercial pleading with voters that the election “isn’t about Nancy Pelosi.” Mr. Ellsworth also refuses to say he will support Mrs. Pelosi for speaker.
    Said Gene Taylor of Mississippi: “I still wish Jack Murtha would run for speaker. He’s pro-gun, pro-life, a real conservative.”

    http://www.washingtontimes.com....._page2.htm

  32. thor spews:

    Friday, 10/20/06 at 8:28 am

    Conservative Eastern Washington Newspaper Endorses Cantwell. Slimeball Tactics by McGavick Supporters One Reason Why.

    The Tri-City Herald

    For U.S. Senate: Re-elect Cantwell

    This story was published Friday, October 20th, 2006

    Experience in government, a prudent sense of restraint on national issues and fidelity to causes important to the Tri-Cities make Democrat Maria Cantwell our choice for the U.S. Senate this year.

    Her opponent, Republican Mike McGavick, is a fine candidate being undermined by the political hacks of his own party.

    Both sides ought to be ashamed of the negative tone their campaigns have taken in recent weeks, but the worst of it comes from outside sources.

    It’s especially disappointing to see the venomous, relentless attacks by surrogates on the incumbent senator, Cantwell, turning more toxic and unreasonable as the election draws closer.

    Nastiness aside, voters are fortunate in that both candidates are exceptional.

    Based on their experience and positions on issues, we think Cantwell is the better candidate of the two. She points specifically to Mid-Columbia issues where she’s made a difference, such as efforts to have the U.S. Department of Labor take responsibility for compensating Hanford workers who were exposed to toxic substances and preserving Northwest rights to the region’s cheap federal hydropower. She also supports pursuing a new reservoir in the Yakima Basin.

    On the war in Iraq, McGavick says Bush should fire Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld and appoint a special committee of members of both houses of Congress to consider how to resolve the war.

    But then he adds that he’s afraid Cantwell supports sudden, premature troop withdrawal. That’s not what she says. Cantwell, who voted to authorize the war, does say Iraq needs to take over military and police control but has not given a deadline. And, she adds, the Iraq Study Group already is in place to study the war situation and we don’t need another.

    Both more or less agree on steps to counter North Korea’s nuclear capabilities and the possibility Iran could be next.

    Neither supports gay marriage. McGavick says he’d support a constitutional amendment defining marriage as being between a man and a woman. Cantwell supports the concept of civil unions.

    Both candidates are pro-choice, but Cantwell supports and McGavick opposes federal funding for welfare abortions.

    McGavick supports and Cantwell opposes giving younger people control of a small portion of their Social Security accounts.

    Cantwell wants tougher immigration procedures and stronger border controls. McGavick wants a wall between the U.S. and Mexico.

    On the acknowledged out-of-control spending by the Republican Congress, McGavick says he wants a spending freeze, a 10 percent cut in some programs and election of true deficit hawks.

    Cantwell notes it’s the Republicans who’ve controlled the spending and looks for a return to the days when there was a budget surplus.

    Cantwell is against and McGavick is for oil drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge.

    McGavick is former head of Safeco Insurance Co. But he is no stranger to the Senate. He was an aide and later chief of staff to Sen. Slade Gorton, R-Wash.

    But as valuable as that experience is, and persuasive as it might be in another circumstance, it wasn’t an elected office.

    In 2000, when Cantwell first ran for the Senate, we endorsed the incumbent, McGavick’s former boss, Sen. Gorton.

    Cantwell beat him narrowly — by a margin of 2,229 votes out of about 2.4 million cast.

    She has had six years in the U.S. Senate, preceded by terms in the U.S. House of Representatives and the state Legislature.

    That experience should count for a lot with voters.

    As to the bitterness of the campaign, McGavick’s failure to stop the personal attacks on Cantwell makes it appear he has lost control over his own campaign.

    McGavick told Herald Washington correspondent Les Blumenthal that partisanship has only grown worse in Congress since he served on Gorton’s staff.

    “I’m running against rank partisanship,” he said.

    Yet McGavick can’t completely disassociate himself from some of his party’s particularly offensive attempts to slander Cantwell’s personal life, rummaging through someone else’s divorce papers.

    The airwaves, and more particularly the Internet, bristle with invective from the National Republican Senatorial Committee.

    It’s exactly the sort of campaign McGavick says he deplores. If his party apparatus pays so little attention to what he wants now, that does not look good for the future.

    The Herald recommends voters return Maria Cantwell to the U.S. Senate.

  33. Roger Rabbit spews:

    Friday, 10/20/06 at 8:31 am

    GOP GUBERNATORIAL CANDIDATE ACCUSED OF ASSAULTING WOMAN

    The Las Vegas Sun reports on allegations that a drunken, “flirty” Rep. Jim Gibbons (R-Nev.), the GOP’s candidate for that state’s governor, pushed a woman against a parking garage wall and made sexual advances. Although Gibbons denies anything untoward happened — he claims he was helping the woman to her car when she slipped and fell — tapes document the woman’s 9-1-1 calls to police, and Gibbons has made inconsistent statements. http://tinyurl.com/wrveo

  34. Robert spews:

    Friday, 10/20/06 at 8:36 am

    November 8th – the GOP begins another 40 year cycle as the minority party in the congress. They’ll go back to whining about the budget deficits (which they made worse), big government (which they made bigger), and federal intrustion into our private lives (which they Rubberstamped).

  35. Roger Rabbit spews:

    Friday, 10/20/06 at 8:36 am

    36

    You know, jaybo, I don’t really care who the Democrats pick as speaker, as long as the Democrats control the house and the speaker is a Democrat. If that happens, there’s going to be investigations of Republican corruption and malfeasance, and there’ll be nothing the GOP can do to stop them.

  36. Roger Rabbit spews:

    Friday, 10/20/06 at 8:58 am

    37

    “McGavick supports and Cantwell opposes giving younger people control of a small portion of their Social Security accounts.”

    I realize the paper is just summarizing their positions, but this not only trivializes the privatization issue — it mischaracterizes it.

    The problem is the phrase “small portion,” which implies privatization would have a minor impact on the Social Security revenue stream.

    Nothing could be further from the truth! The GOP’s privatization plan would divert over $1 trillion from the Social Security Trust Account — precisely at the time when baby boomer retirements turn revenue surpluses into shortfalls. The GOP hasn’t explained how they would make up that revenue loss — by tax increases or benefit cuts. Since the GOP steadfastly opposes tax increases in any form, we can assume the GOP will opt for benefit cuts.

    That means the GOP’s “solution” for a claimed Social Security shortfall (these claims are hotly disputed and at the very least highly inflated) is to make the shortfall worse by spending Social Security revenue on a new program — and cutting retirees’ benefits to pay for it.

    Senior citizens saw through this transparent attempt to destroy Social Security almost instantly. Polls show 90% of senior citizens oppose privatization. Bush’s Social Security road show collapsed after only a few “town halls” (which were marred by the ugly manhandling and illegal arrests of attendees whose only offense was having anti-war bumper stickers on their cars).

    Social Security privatization is a scam, period. Over the long haul, there is no extra money coming into the Trust Fund, which Republicans themselves have trumpeted as an excuse for overhauling Social Security. Every cent of Social Security tax revenue that is diverted from the Trust Fund will either have to be replaced by new taxes or cut from benefits, it’s that simple.

    McGavick supports this ripoff of senior citizens. That, by itself, is reason enough why he should never represent the citizens of our state in congress or the U.S. senate.

  37. Roger Rabbit spews:

    Friday, 10/20/06 at 9:00 am

    Had your premiums arbitrarily raised lately? Ever been screwed by an adjuster or insurance co. lawyers when you filed a claim for an accident that was someone else’s fault?

    Do you really want to trust the insurance industry lobbyist/insurance company CEO behind that smiling face with YOUR Social Security benefits?

    That would be like buying your pension from Safeco.

  38. Roger Rabbit spews:

    Friday, 10/20/06 at 9:01 am

    44

    Hey, if you’re thinking of voting for Mike McGavick, I know a guy who wants to sell you a long-term-care insurance policy.

  39. Roger Rabbit spews:

    Friday, 10/20/06 at 9:08 am

    REPUBLICANS EATING THEIR OWN

    “By DAVID D. KIRKPATRICK, The New York Times

    “WASHINGTON (Oct. 20) — Tax-cutters are calling evangelicals bullies. Christian conservatives say Republicans in Congress have let them down. Hawks say President Bush is bungling the war in Iraq. And many conservatives blame Representative Mark Foley’s sexual messages to teenage pages.

    “With polls showing Republican control of Congress in jeopardy, conservative leaders are pointing fingers at one other in an increasingly testy circle of blame for potential Republican losses this fall.”

    Man I love watching the GOP cannibals go at each other!!! Yes!!! Yes!!! Yes!!! :D :D :D

  40. jaybo spews:

    Friday, 10/20/06 at 9:33 am

    Rabbit @ 40,

    You highlight exactly the point I’m making.

    If this new crop of democrats gets into the congress, they will be more conservative than the liberal elements that want to do what you are saying.

    If the liberal wing of the Democratic Party tries to drag them to the left they know that they will be in danger of losing their support. I don’t believe that they are going to be willing to commit suicide like that.

    This is the coming battle that I am pointing out.

  41. rhp6033 spews:

    Friday, 10/20/06 at 9:38 am

    Robert at 39:

    Yea, that’s one of the thing that bugs me the most. Republicans run up the national debt like a bunch of drunken sailors, then blame the Democrats for it over the next few years.

    Imagine the scene: The parents (Democrats) are out on a trip for the weekend, leaving the teenagers (Republicans) in charge of the house. They arrive home and open the door, and survey the morning-after effects of a drunken party the night before. The teenage son sees the parents, and complains, “Geez, Dad, did you have to come home? You are SUCH a party-pooper! Everybody was having lots of fun and doing fine until now!

    Horsey (Seattle P-I cartoonist) could make a great cartoon out of this, to be published the day after the November elections.

  42. Roger Rabbit spews:

    Friday, 10/20/06 at 9:41 am

    GOP THUG RETALIATES FOR LEAK

    The Associated Press reports today that Rep. Peter Hoekstra suspended a Democratic staff member of the House Intelligence Committee over a media leak of a politically damaging National Intelligence Estimate. Democrats say there is no evidence the staffer leaked the document, which was accessible to “thousands” of people in government.

    Democrats say the staffer was only doing his job when he requested a copy of the NIE for a committee member. The request occurred 3 days before the New York Times ran a story about the NIE, which portrayed the Iraq war as going badly.

    Hoekstra, putting 2 and 2 together, came up with 1 1/4 and concluded the staffer must have done it.

    Hoekstra’s bullying of the staffer comes at a time of worsening tensions between Republicans and Democrats on the committee. Hoekstra is incensed over the senior Democratic member’s recent release to the media of an investigator’s conclusions that jailed Republican ex-congressman “Duke” Cunningham abused his position on the committee to help steer lucrative defebse contracts went to associates in exchange for bribes — Hoekstra apparently wanted THAT kept secret, too.

    For story, see http://tinyurl.com/yz3alb

  43. Roger Rabbit spews:

    Friday, 10/20/06 at 9:43 am

    48

    If you think there’s a single solitary Democrat in Congress who will help the Republicans cover up their corruption, lying, and stealing — you’ve been smoking banana peels.

  44. rhp6033 spews:

    Friday, 10/20/06 at 9:46 am

    When the Republicans lose control of the House (and possibly the Senate) in Nov., they will blame it all on Mark Foley. They will argue that they did a good job governing, but the fallout from a sex scandal cost them control of the House. He will be the scapegoat for their failures.

    But it just goes to show how out-of-touch they are.

  45. Roger Rabbit spews:

    Friday, 10/20/06 at 9:49 am

    GOP DISTANCES ITSELF FROM CANDIDATE

    In California, a Republican candidate for Congress denies having anything to do with a “dirty tricks” letter sent to 14,000 Hispanic voters warning them they could go to jail for voting, but even GOP party officials are calling him a liar.

    Meanwhile, authorities are raising the possibility that someone may be prosecuted for what GOP Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger called a “hate crime.”

    For story, see http://tinyurl.com/yxo82t

    Man don’t you just love to see Republicans go for each other’s throats!!! Yes!!! Yes!!! Yes!!! :D :D :D

  46. Mark1 spews:

    Friday, 10/20/06 at 9:54 am

    I ask again Roger Rodent, as you never answered before; which is probably due to your lack of testicualr virility. The question was do you and if you do is it legal to give campaign contributions with you gov’t cheese welfare money or food stamps or do you cash them first and get a money order?

  47. rhp6033 spews:

    Friday, 10/20/06 at 9:58 am

    Commentators on NPR this morning were saying that the RNC will drop a bunch of TV ads starting Sunday which will feature pictures of Osama Bin Laden, and quotes from Al Quida figures spewing hate at America, and claim that this is what the election is all about. Obviously, they hope that fear-mongering will work for them again – it gave them the slim margin of victory in the 2004 elections.

    Bush and Osama Bin-Laden need each other. Bush can’t win an election without his spectre. Bin-Laden needs Bush to keep up his idiotic foreign policy in order to get new recruits and money from the Muslim world.

    Before the 2004 elections a new Bin-Laden tape was broadcast shortly before the last Presidential debate. I’ve always wondered about that tape. If Bin-Laden hated Bush so much, why would he do something that his advisors would undoubtedly tell him would only aid Bush in his re-election attempt? Did Bin-Laden make a new tape, so he could ensure that Bush remained in office for four more years, and thereby retain for them a “demon” against which he could mobilize the muslim world? Or was this an old tape which Rove made sure was dropped to Al-Jazzera at just the right time?

    Rove has proven that he is pretty good at manipulating portions of the mainstream media, to get his messages our just when he needs them to do so. It would be nice to have a REAL investigation of how much of these Al Quida tapes are leaked to Al Jazeera from government or Republican sources. While we are at it, what was the real source of the Bush Nat. Guard memo which brought down Dan Rather and made it impossible for any other news media to continue with the story for the rest of the 2004 campaign?

  48. Don Joe spews:

    Friday, 10/20/06 at 10:00 am

    rhp @ 9:36

    Even better: They’ll cut taxes, say $550 billion (with a “b”) dollars in order to create 1 million (with an “m”) jobs–yes, that’s $550,000 per job created. We could have given 1 million people 1/2 million $ each, those people would have been better off, and we’d have saved $50 billion dollars in the Federal budget.

    Four years later, overall tax revenues begin to sniff the revenue levels before the tax cut, the DOW Industrials reach an all new high though broader indexes are still quite low, real wages have fallen, and Republicans have either the gall or the stupidity (it’s difficult to tell which) to say, “See! It worked!”

  49. Roger Rabbit spews:

    Friday, 10/20/06 at 10:02 am

    HOW’S THAT GREAT BUSH ECONOMY HUMMING ALONG?

    CBS News reports:

    “More College Grads Living With Parents

    ” … Half of this year’s graduates have moved back home and 44 percent of last year’s graduates are still there, while 34 percent of 18- to 34-year-olds get cash from mom and dad — an average of $3,410 a year.

    “Sarah Baumgartner worked at a radio station in college and thought it would be easy to pursue that career. It wasn’t. ‘You work and work and work to get this degree, and now you have it, and in my case you’re delivering pizzas to your old high school,’ she told … correspondent Cynthia Bowers. …

    “Elina Furman lived with her parents for three years after college and then another seven with her mother. She wrote ‘Boomerang Nation: How to Survive Living with Your Parents … The Second Time Around.’ Furman said that the high cost of housing is pricing young people out of the market. …

    “Georgetown graduate Addie Pampalone … took a dream job in advertising, but without the financial help from her parents, she said paying her rent would have been a nightmare. …”

    This article is excerpted under the Fair Use doctrine; for complete story and/or copyright info, see http://tinyurl.com/y3u3ed

  50. jaybo spews:

    Friday, 10/20/06 at 10:04 am

    More proof of what I believe will happen within the Democratic Party.

    A Democrat McCain
    Joe Lieberman rediscovers belief in Connecticut.

    BY DANIEL HENNINGER
    Friday, October 20, 2006 12:01 a.m. EDT

    We see where the Democrats are laying in cases of champagne to celebrate their Nov. 7 victory in the congressional elections. If as seems possible control of the Senate turns on a single seat, attention will return to one probable winner who likely won’t be in the Democratic clubhouse spraying bubbly that night–Joe Lieberman.

    Sen. Lieberman is going to defeat the Ned Lamont “insurgency” from the Democratic left. Now what?

    His lead in the most recent polls runs between 8 and 13 points. It is safe to assume that if the Democrats win next month, they won’t be urging reporters to focus on the Lieberman victory in Connecticut. This wasn’t supposed to happen.

    What was supposed to happen is that Joe Lieberman was supposed to go away. After Ned Lamont defeated Mr. Lieberman in the primary, a procession of his Senate friends traveled ostentatiously to Connecticut to recreate the scene in “Godfather II” where Tom Hagen tells Frank Pentangeli about how marked guys went away in the time of the Roman Empire. “Yeah,” said Frankie, “and their families were taken care of.” Hagen: “A nice deal.”

    That was a movie. Instead of a political corpse, the Democratic Party is about to get its own version of John McCain–a shrewd and independent maverick. By the accounts of friends and associates, Joe Lieberman feels “liberated” and “unshackled.”

    Back in 2000, as Al Gore’s running mate, Joe Lieberman did what the party asked him to do. He threw over some of his core beliefs, as on affirmative action and school vouchers, and swept left in a way that made his bipartisan admirers cringe. After the Lamont defeat, he could have slicked together a campaign that threw sops to Greenwich’s liberals and held his Democratic base (he got 48% in the primary).

    Didn’t happen. In terms of what comes next for Mr. Lieberman and his party, the signal event in this campaign is his Sept. 25 speech to the Veterans of Foreign War in East Hampton. It’s about Iraq. This speech could serve as a template for Democratic Party policy on Iraq after the election–but it won’t.

    In August, just weeks before the Lamont antiwar frenzy crested, 12 Democrats led by Sen. Harry Reid and Rep. Nancy Pelosi sent President Bush a letter urging the start of withdrawal from Iraq by the end of 2006 and a reduced mission there. That’s the party’s current business model. It was the energy source that the progressive blogosphere took into Connecticut. Sen. Lieberman is running straight at it.
    His East Hampton VFW speech describes bringing the troops home prematurely as a “formula for defeat and disaster.” He restates his support for Saddam’s overthrow, criticizes rank partisanship in a time of war, praises Iraq’s democratic progress and ends by offering an alternative strategy for avoiding defeat.

    It includes resolving the crucial issue of sharing Iraq’s oil revenues, ending the out-rotation of the U.S.’s best military commanders, accelerating the logistical support system for Iraq’s army and, most interestingly, increasing the overall force structure of the Army and Marine Corps to face future threats.

    Sen. Lieberman says the troops he has spoken to want to see the job finished in a way that honors their service and sacrifice: “We owe it to them not to give up and walk off the battlefield before the job is done.”

    He proposes forming a “bipartisan Iraq working group” when Congress reconvenes in January made up of senior members of the relevant committees who would meet regularly with the president. It could happen. If the Democrats take the Senate, Sen. Lieberman is in line to chair the committee on homeland security.

    There is talk of the ever-present Democratic “insurgency” on the left organizing to prevent Mr. Lieberman from gaining the committee chairmanship. That will happen if the Republicans are lucky, leaving Sen. Lieberman as a cherished but ignored party eccentric. But it could be back luck for the GOP if the Democrats take a close look at what is winning in Connecticut.

    Sen. Lieberman is probably going to carry the Democratic vote in places like the Naugatuck Valley around Waterbury–blue-collar, culturally conservative Reagan Democrats deeply discomfited by the war but unwilling to truck with a Vietnam-like pullout. He is pulling well in the suburbs around New Haven, home to knowledge-based industries in the biosciences, information and health. In the Republican stronghold of Fairfield County, where incumbent GOP Congressman Chris Shays may lose, a new internal Lieberman poll puts him up 15 points.

    A diverse in-migration of Republicans is helping Mr. Lieberman. Maine Sen. Susan Collins, a moderate, will be in the state today for him. Jack Kemp arrives next week for stops in New London and Mystic. Most intriguing, New York City’s nominally Republican mayor Mike Bloomberg is about to hold his third fund-raiser for Sen. Lieberman.

    For fans of political irony, this is a wonderful race. The blog-based Democratic insurgents created the Lamont movement. But after receiving investiture from party elders Kennedy, Dodd and Kerry, Mr. Lamont was the candidate of the Washington establishment. Driven from the compound, Joe Lieberman was now the man not “of” politics-as-usual.

    Unlike in 2000, Joe Lieberman is running this time on his beliefs, something he probably thought a lot about while pulling the knives out in August. The Democratic Party lost in 2000 and 2004 by running liberals who couldn’t get across the goal line. The 2008 party desperately needs a belief-based centrist, with national name recognition, to hold off McCain, Romney or Giuliani. If perchance Hillary falters . . . It won’t happen, but for a reborn winner, even the dreams are sweet solace.
    Mr. Henninger is deputy editor of The Wall Street Journal’s editorial page. His column appears Fridays in the Journal and on OpinionJournal.com.

  51. Doctor JCH Kennedy, ESQ spews:

    Friday, 10/20/06 at 10:05 am

    “Commentators on NPR this morning were saying that the RNC will drop a bunch of TV ads starting Sunday which will feature pictures of Osama Bin Laden, and quotes from Al Quida figures spewing hate at America”…………..In other words, He will sound like a Democrat “spuing” liberal talking points!!!

  52. Doctor JCH Kennedy, ESQ spews:

    Friday, 10/20/06 at 10:07 am

    Gary Studds is dead. “Tookie” Williams is dead. Very sad for GBS, Daddy Love, and other gay Democrats.

    May Gary and “Tookie” still vote Democrat, and may Democrats bus their dead bodies from poll to poll as needed?

  53. Roger Rabbit spews:

    Friday, 10/20/06 at 10:08 am

    Reply to 54

    1. You didn’t ask me this before.
    2. Rabbits don’t eat cheese, you fucking ignoramus!
    3. I don’t get any welfare or food stamps.
    4. My pension income is my money that I earned and was deducted from my paychecks.
    5. What I do with my money is none of your fucking business!
    6. If the GOP thugs running our country make it illegal to give money to anti-fascist candidates, I will flip them my middle claw and do it anyway, and when they come to arrest me I will rearrange their belly buttons with my powerful hind feet equipped with razor sharp claws!
    7. How you like them apples, fascist. Any more questions?

  54. Roger Rabbit spews:

    Friday, 10/20/06 at 10:11 am

    Osama is Bush’s best friend and ally! That’s why Bush flew his relatives out of the country after 9/11 and hasn’t caught Osama. He needs Osama as much as Osama needs him.

    “I don’t know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don’t care. It’s not that important. It’s not our priority. I am truly not that concerned about him.” — – George W. Bush, March 13, 2002

  55. Mark1 spews:

    Friday, 10/20/06 at 10:13 am

    Rodent:

    Hit a nerve there did I? Good. The truth will set you free Rabbit, and least be honest. And yes, I asked you these things several times in the past. I suspect you were too busy sitting there in your bathrobe listening to yourself talk all day every day on this site. But thanks for answering my question -at least somewhat. Something tells me you were never very popular with the ladies either Rodent. Have a good day, I have to go back to a thing most people know as WORK.

  56. Roger Rabbit spews:

    Friday, 10/20/06 at 10:13 am

    With the election fast closing in, and the walls closing in on GOP candidates, it’s only a matter of days before GOP ads starting calling Bush a “Democrat” and blaming him for everything.

    Bush = the new Bill Clinton

  57. Roger Rabbit spews:

    Friday, 10/20/06 at 10:16 am

    58

    Keep stroking your hummer and dreaming away, jaybo. The sky is falling on you assholes — and this time it’s really falling and will land on your thick heads like a pile of rocks.

  58. Roger Rabbit spews:

    Friday, 10/20/06 at 10:19 am

    63

    I have lots of nerve, and it stomps on lying wingnuts like you on a daily basis. And by the way who ever heard of a REPUBLICAN doing any WORK?!! The whole fucking point of being a Republican is getting out of working by living off other people’s work.

  59. ArtFart spews:

    Friday, 10/20/06 at 10:20 am

    Interesting the GOP is going to start hollering about Osama just when we’re being treated to headlines about how our military commanders in Iraq (the REAL officers, not “Armchair Napoleon” Rumsfeld) are warning that we’re losing control of Baghdad.

    Typical neocon behavior…when you’re losing the argument, change the subject.

  60. Anonymous spews:

    Friday, 10/20/06 at 10:21 am

    RE: More College Grads Living With Parents

    Of course they failed to mention the moron college kids getting moron and totally usesless degrees in things like “Womens Studies”, “American Ethnic Studies”, “American Indian Studies”, “Communications”, “Comparative History of Ideas” and my personal favorite, Diversity.

    And of course they fail to mention the same morron college kids with useless moron degrees accepting every credit card ever sent to them, putting themselves massively in debt because they don’t learn basic economics in those useless moron studies.

    There was a statistic that I heard yesterday that claims unemployment among college graduates is only 2.9%, which tells us my theory that moron degrees and massive debts are the real reason Johnny and Susie move back in with Mommy… that and the just plain lazy entitlement mindset.

  61. Roger Rabbit spews:

    Friday, 10/20/06 at 10:23 am

    Anybody else notice that Mark1, who claims to “work,” is posting on HA at 10:13 AM?

    oes he have one of those Republican jobs like McGavick had where you get paid to arrive at 11:00, take lunch from 12:00 to 2:30, and go home at 3:00?

    If Mark1 is “working,” is he posting on HA at 10:13 AM on his boss’s computer, instead of doing what he’s getting paid to do?

    Hmmmm …

  62. Roger Rabbit spews:

    Friday, 10/20/06 at 10:26 am

    68

    No, they mentioned the credit cards. I have a suggestion for you. Read the fucking article before you post about what was in the article, so you don’t look like a fucking fool.

  63. Roger Rabbit spews:

    Friday, 10/20/06 at 10:27 am

    70

    Please don’t misunderstand me. I have nothing against a wingnut looking like a fucking fool.

  64. Daddy Love spews:

    Friday, 10/20/06 at 10:31 am

    68 Anonymous

    How about underemployment of college graduates?

  65. Daddy Love spews:

    Friday, 10/20/06 at 10:36 am

    jaybo

    The majority of Americans want us to get out of Iraq.

    The majority of Iraqis want the same.

    Lieberman’s “beliefs” are all about keeping his nice Senate Seat.

  66. Doctor JCH Kennedy, ESQ spews:

    Friday, 10/20/06 at 10:45 am

    If nothing else, U.S. Sen. Jim Talent’s decision to attack early and often during Monday night’s debate with state Auditor Claire McCaskill certainly shook up the status quo. **SNIP** Talent used his opening statement to accuse McCaskill of being an ineffective prosecutor during the 1990s, and then to assert that she and her husband had failed to pay taxes on some property and income.

    I saw exceprts of this last night and wow did he towel snap her! Her family has over 100 LLC’s and none pay any taxes! She didn’t even respond to the allegation. There are many things a politician can be and do in this country, but being a tax dodger is not one of them. She’s toast.

  67. Daddy Love spews:

    Friday, 10/20/06 at 10:47 am

    37 thor

    and I recommend excerpting the material you steal. THen link to it. Dildo.

  68. Doctor JCH Kennedy, ESQ spews:

    Friday, 10/20/06 at 10:50 am

    JOHANNESBURG (Reuters) – Actor Wesley Snipes, indicted by U.S. authorities for tax fraud this week, is filming a movie in the African country of Namibia which has no extradition treaty with Washington, officials said on Friday. [“Gosta run ta dark Africa! Eyes don’t pay no mofo taxes!!! That’s fo white Republicans!! Eyes a black Democrat!!! Eyes a VICTIM!!!”]

  69. Daddy Love spews:

    Friday, 10/20/06 at 10:56 am

    36 jaybo

    CT-SEN Zogby Int. Oct 19 Lieberman (CFL) 49%, Lamont (D) 43%

    More Republicans are deserting Lieberman for Schlesinger, and Democrats will be turning to Lamont as it becomes more amd more clear how not-Democrat Lieberman is. The debate didn’t do Lieberman any favors.

    “We need a two party system that actually represents the overall population that has been changing and adopting more conservative values.”

    Bullshit. The Republicans no longer have a single winning issue, and their base is fractured. As RR points out, they’re quite possibly out for another generation.

  70. Daddy Love spews:

    Friday, 10/20/06 at 11:02 am

    So regarding the fact that at the swearing in of Mark Dybul as an AIDS ambassador, Secretary of State Condoleeza Rice referred to the mother of Dybul’s gay partner as “mother in law,” Tony Show said that the secretary “was showing due deference to the people involved.” The official White House stance is that parents fo gay partners are “due” the deference the same title as those of parents of stright married partners? Wow. That’s a value judgment that does nto reflect the values of homophobe Jerry Falwell and the men at the Concerned Women for America. I can’t see how the religious right bigots are going to find this a very comforting response.

    When the Religious Right leaves, and married women leave, the Republican Party will be finished.

  71. jaybo spews:

    Friday, 10/20/06 at 11:16 am

    Daddy Love @ 77,

    The results of the Conn. race will prove to everyone here just how wrong you are.

    I propose a wager. If Lieberman kicks Lamont’s tail all over the state and wins the election will you promise to never post here under your current blog name? And if Lamont wins I will not post under my current blog name.

    Do we have a bet?

  72. headless lucy spews:

    Friday, 10/20/06 at 11:30 am

    re 54: How is that question relevant to Republicans losing both Houses and the coming Bushco impeachment proceedings?

  73. headless lucy spews:

    Friday, 10/20/06 at 11:32 am

    re 79:Since he’s running as an independent even if he wins he’s lost all his seniority. Lieberman’s career is toast.

  74. Daddy Love spews:

    Friday, 10/20/06 at 11:34 am

    jaybo

    a) This is my name. I’m not giving it up.

    b) Why should I bet at all, and particularly a straight up bet when you’re backing the favorite? That would be pretty foolish wagering, don’t you think?

    Shoudl I take the Huskies straight up over Cal too?

  75. Daddy Love spews:

    Friday, 10/20/06 at 11:37 am

    79 jaybo

    “The results of the Conn. race will prove to everyone here just how wrong you are.”

    My prediction is that Lieberman will lose some Republicans to Schlesinger and some Demcrats to Lamont from where he is right now. You think that’s wrong?

  76. Daddy Love spews:

    Friday, 10/20/06 at 11:43 am

    Democrats outraising Republicans in the final months:

    In September, the Democratic campaign committees for the House and the Senate outraised their counterpart Republican committees, reversing historical trends.

    The Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee raised $14.4 million and the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee collected $13.6 million last month, they said. In contrast, the National Republican Congressional Committee raised $12 million and the National Republican Senatorial Committee collected $5.2 million.

    Dems to GOP: bite me.

  77. Daddy Love spews:

    Friday, 10/20/06 at 11:54 am

    Nothin is going well in Iraq. Nothing. Yet the Republicans will not stand up the the president, a president who lies about “giving the generals whatever they ask for,” at least ifg you beleive the generals. As Iraq goes to hell. As we lose over 70 more brave American soldiers so far in October alone.

    Want change? The only place you’ll find it is in the Democratic Party.

  78. Daddy Love spews:

    Friday, 10/20/06 at 1:35 pm

    If you don’t read borowitzreport.com, you should. Andy Borowitz is funny.

    –snip–

    “Elsewhere, 32% of Americans approve of President Bush’s handling of Iraq, while 0% approve of Mark Foley’s handling of congressional pages.”

  79. eponymous coward spews:

    Friday, 10/20/06 at 2:03 pm

    Jeebus. What an insipid campaign McGavick’s run. You’d think someone who ran Skeletor’s campaigns could do better.

  80. Daddy Love spews:

    Friday, 10/20/06 at 2:47 pm

    81 EC

    I couldn’t agree more.

  81. Mark1 spews:

    Friday, 10/20/06 at 4:00 pm

    Roger Rodent:

    If you wanted to know that bad, I usually use my laptop. Those of us that are tax-paying, productive members of society, legally are entitled to things called “breaks” throughout the day. During these time periods, one can use his or her time as she or he sees fit. I suppose that since you are not any of the above, then you wouldn’t know that. See, you learned something new today after all, asfar asnerve,the only nerve you seem to have is venting and ranting your little man’s anger from behind the anonimity and safety of your computer screen. You have a lot to say always, but it is seldom factual and amounts to your own dilusional opinons of the fantasy world you live in. I suggest reading the book: “The Little Engine that Could”, then look at yourself in the mirror and chant ‘I think I can, I think I can!’ and maybe you can pretend youreintelligent and maybe even get an attractive woman. Good luck to you Rodent.

  82. jaybo spews:

    Friday, 10/20/06 at 4:52 pm

    Daddy Love can shoot off his mouth, but when it comes time to back up his words with action he runs away.

    I thought you would do that.

    I guess you just proved to the rest of us how little confidence you have in what you “claim” to believe.

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