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by Goldy — Saturday, 8/12/06, 10:06 am

If SAFECO wanted to make unlimited contributions to former CEO Mike!™ McGavick’s senate campaign, a $28 million golden parachute was exactly the way to do it. So it should come as no surprise to learn that Mike!™ just sunk in $2 million of SAFECO’s his own money.

Mike!™ said he gave the money partially to offset the fact that Cantwell “has been a tireless fundraiser over the last five years.” Apparently Mike!™ was simply tired of doing all the hard work necessary to competitively raise money… which isn’t surprising coming from a guy who who’s grown accustomed to getting paid $28 million for two months of part-time work.

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  1. jaybo spews:

    Saturday, 8/12/06 at 10:30 am

    The “Islamo-Fascists” among us……….

    http://www.satp.org/satporgtp/.....-fuqra.htm

  2. Mark The Redneck spews:

    Saturday, 8/12/06 at 10:39 am

    Help me out here guys… didn’t Miz Cantwell fund her election out of her pocket using money from RealNetworks. And what was it exactly she did there? Wasn’t she an “executive”?… kinda like Burner was an “executive” at MSFT?

    Typical fucking hypocrite moonbats…

  3. Another TJ spews:

    Saturday, 8/12/06 at 10:40 am

    Help me out here guys… didn’t Miz Cantwell fund her election out of her pocket using money from RealNetworks.

    The answer you seek is in the article to which Goldy linked.

  4. Mark The Redneck spews:

    Saturday, 8/12/06 at 10:45 am

    So as usual, I hit the nail on the head.

    Fucking hypocrites…

  5. Mark The Redneck spews:

    Saturday, 8/12/06 at 10:55 am

    I was out of town this week. Did the mooslims hold the “Not in Our Name” rally to condemn the killing of innocents at the Jewish Center? Did they march down I5 and tie up traffic to get their message out? Are they ready to “take back the religion of peace?

    Didn’t think so…

  6. killatroll/saveablog spews:

    Saturday, 8/12/06 at 10:59 am

    MyBuddyMTR@various What’s Up Doc?

  7. Richard Pope spews:

    Saturday, 8/12/06 at 11:01 am

    I note that Maria Cantwell’s latest FEC filing, for the period ending 06/30/2006, shows an outstanding debt of $2,448,952 — presumably money that she loaned to her campaign. And it looks like Mike McGavick is loaning his campaign $2,000,000.

    It also looks like Cantwell and McGavick have each filed one FEC report late.

    McGavick filed his 3rd quarter 2005 report, due on 10/15/2006, on 10/17/2006, or two days late.

    Cantwell filed her 2nd quarter 2006 report, due on 07/15/2006, on 07/24/2006, or nine days late.

    The FEC has a zero tolerance policy (unlike our PDC) and imposes administrative fines — which escalate based on the number of days late and the total of the amounts raised and spent — starting with even one day late.

    Under the fine schedule, McGavick should be fined $3,900 for his late report (2 days, total raised/spent of about $700,000), and Cantwell fined $6,800 (9 days, total raised/spent of about $3,000,000).

    McGavick probably filed late because 10/17/2005 is a Saturday. But FEC law doesn’t extend due dates that fall on weekend or holidays, and if you can’t mail it on the due date, you have to mail it the day before or the day before that.

    McGavick sent his report out on Mon 10/17/2005 by UPS Next Day Air from a Staples store in Lynnwood. It is possible he delivered it to that store on a Saturday, but FEC regulations only count when the delivery service (UPS) picks up the package. And for private delivery service, such as UPS, it must be scheduled for delivery on the very next day — which wouldn’t be the case if he handed it off late on Saturday after the pick-up deadline.

    Cantwell did a real boneheaded thing on 07/15/2006. She should have gone to the US Post Office that Saturday and mailed it — registered, certified, express, or priority (with delivery confirmation) would have worked. And there were plenty of nearby post offices open at noon Saturday when she had her report done.

    Instead, Cantwell went to a UPS Store in downtown Seattle. The only lawful method of filing from there would be by Next Day Air, which would have cost over $90.00 for a Saturday pickup from the store.

    Instead, Cantwell sent her report out by UPS Ground. This method of filing is only valid when it is actually received. UPS Ground doesn’t pick up on Saturdays, and takes five business days to Washington, DC. So it didn’t go out until Mon 07/17/2006 and wasn’t received in DC until Mon 07/24/2006 — or nine days late.

    It cost Cantwell $26.42 at the UPS Store. It would have cost her only $33.40 at the US Post Office to send the same package by Priority Mail with Delivery Confirmation.

    So for saving $6.98 on sending out the package, Cantwell will probably get fined $6,800 by the FEC.

    Both McGavick and Cantwell should be fairly and impartially fined the appropriate amount by the FEC under their administrative fine schedule for late filing. I have reviewed images of both candidate filings on the FEC website and confirmed these relevant facts.

  8. killatroll/saveablog spews:

    Saturday, 8/12/06 at 11:06 am

    MarktheRetarded@5 Ya.know, Doc, I been thinkin about those PE creds you got. . .been thinkin’ so hard I’m kinda havin’ a Karnak moment, if ya know what I mean. . .I’m getting some numbers in my head. . .wait, there almost there. . .

  9. Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:

    Saturday, 8/12/06 at 11:16 am

    Agree with Miss Goldie on this. The funds were stolen from the owners [shareholders] by the CEO and Board of Directors who have a fiduciary responsibility to the shareholders, not the CEO. Not playing nice. BTW, Cantwell did the same thing.

  10. Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:

    Saturday, 8/12/06 at 11:18 am

    Hey, Roger Rabbit, are you really a fag?

    “let me take this opportunity to announce I am a gay man, and proud of it. Thank you.”

    Comment by Roger Rabbit [……….Roger, I didn’t know. No more “Tookie” Williams rectum jokes. I promise!!!!]

  11. Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:

    Saturday, 8/12/06 at 11:27 am

    FORT SMITH, Ark. — Former No. 2 Wal-Mart Stores Inc. (WMT) executive Thomas Coughlin, who pleaded guilty to stealing money, merchandise and gift cards from the retailer, was sentenced Friday in federal court to 27 months of home detention and five years probation. Coughlin, 57, avoided any prison time, but was sentenced to a $50,000 fine and $400,000 in restitution.

    Comments:
    This is just amazing to me. Makes millions a year and then steals gift cards? 10 years plus triple damages back to the shareholders is just. And who hired this greedy asshole?

  12. jaybo spews:

    Saturday, 8/12/06 at 11:34 am

    A major newspaper now weighs in:

    Jim Rutten, LA Times
    Regarding Media
    Lebanon photos: Take a closer look
    August 12, 2006
    THE controversy this week over Reuters’ distribution of digitally manipulated, falsely labeled and — probably — staged photos of the fighting in Lebanon hasn’t been nearly as large as it should have been.

    Credit for bringing the sordid business to light goes to Charles Johnson, a musician and Los Angeles-based blogger, who operates a hard-edged right wing website unfathomably called Little Green Footballs. Last Saturday, Reuters, which is headquartered in London, transmitted two photographs by one of its regular Lebanese freelance photographers, Adnan Hajj, whose work for the agency has appeared in many American newspapers since 1993. An anonymous tipster reportedly drew Johnson’s attention to the photos, and he immediately recognized that one purporting to show the aftermath of an Israeli airstrike on Beirut had been digitally enhanced. It subsequently emerged that another image allegedly showing an Israeli fighter launching multiple air-to-ground missiles also had been altered using the common Photoshop computer program.

    Johnson quickly posted a denunciation of the phony photo. Within 18 hours, Reuters killed the manipulated images, fired Hajj and removed 920 of his photos from its digital archives. Paul Holmes, the Reuters editor responsible for standards and ethics, told the New York Times that all the withdrawn images were being reviewed “to see if any others have been improperly altered.” He also said the news agency was investigating how the photos slipped by its editors but noted that on the day in question, “we published 2,000 photos. It was handled by someone on a very busy day at a more junior level than we would wish for in ideal circumstances.”

    The cause of the lapse, Holmes said, simply was “human error.”

    Fair enough. Unfortunately, these things can happen to conscientious news organizations in precisely the circumstances he cites. Three years ago, for example, the Los Angeles Times immediately fired a staff photographer and apologized to its readers when it discovered he had used similar technology to make a picture he’d shot in Iraq more dramatic. The doctored image had appeared on the paper’s front page.

    There are, however, two problems here, and they’re the reason this controversy shouldn’t be allowed to sputter to its inglorious conclusion just yet: One of these has to do with the scope of what strongly appears to be wider fabrication in the photojournalism Reuters and other news agencies are obtaining from their freelancers in Lebanon. The other is the U.S. news media’s grudging response to the revelation of Hajj’s misconduct and its utter lack of interest in exploring whether his is a unique or representative case.

    Thus far, only a handful of relatively brief stories on this affair have appeared in major American papers. The Times picked up one from the Washington Post, which focused mainly on the politics of Johnson’s website. The New York Times, which ran one of Hajj’s photos on its front page Saturday, reported that it has published eight of his pictures since 2003, but none were altered. It then went on to quote other papers about steps they take to detect fraudulent images. No paper has taken up the challenge of determining whether there’s anything dodgy about the flow of freelance photos Reuters and other news agencies — including the Associated Press, which also transmitted images made by Hajj — are sending out of tormented Lebanon.

    Look for yourself

    Johnson is co-founder with mystery novelist and screenwriter Roger L. Simon of another online site, media.com. It aggregates mostly right wing blogs from around the world and has ambitions as a politically inflected alternative news source. It’s worth taking the time to go there and to click on the link giddily labeled “Reutersgate.” Make what you will of the analysis, much of which is feverish, sneering and tending toward the mechanistically conspiratorial. What’s hard to imagine is how anybody can look at the photos and not conclude that they’re riddled with journalistic deceit.

    Many, including grisly images from the Qana tragedy, clearly are posed for maximum dramatic effect. There is an entire series of photos of children’s stuffed toys poised atop mounds of rubble. All are miraculously pristinely clean and apparently untouched by the devastation they purportedly survived. (Reuters might want to check its freelancers’ expenses for unexplained Toys R Us purchases.) In some cases, the bloggers seem to have uncovered the same photographer using more than one identity. There’s an improbable photo by Hajj of a Koran burning atop the rubble of a building supposedly destroyed by an Israeli aircraft hours before. Nothing else in sight is alight. (With photos, as in life, when something seems too perfect to be true, it’s almost always because it is.) In other photos, the same wrecked building is portrayed multiple times with the same older woman — one supposes she ought to be called a model — either lamenting its destruction or passing by in different costumes.

    There’s more, and it’s worth your time to take a look. That’s one of the undeniable strengths of the Internet and of the blogosphere, and the fact that it is being employed to help keep journalism honest ultimately is to everybody’s benefit.

    What the major news organizations ought to be doing is to make their own analysis of the images coming out of Lebanon and if, as seems more than likely, they find widespread malfeasance, some hard questions need to be asked about why it occurred. Some of it may stem from the urge every photographer feels to make a photo perfect. Some of it probably flows from a simple economic imperative — a freelancer who produces dramatic images gets picked up more and paid more. Moreover, the obscenely anti-Israeli tenor of most of the European and world press means there’s an eager market for pictures of dead Lebanese babies.

    It’s worth noting in this context that there is no similar flow of propagandistic images coming from the Israeli side of the border. That’s because one side — the democratically elected government of Israel — views death as a tragedy and the other — the Iranian financed terrorist organization Hezbollah — sees it as an opportunity. In this case, turning their own dead children into material creates an opportunity to cloud the fact that every Lebanese casualty, tragic as he or she is, was killed or injured as an unavoidable consequence of Israel’s pursuit of terrorists who use their own people as human shields. Every Israeli civilian killed or injured was the victim of a terrorist attack intended to harm civilians. That alone ought to wash away any blood-stained suggestion of moral equivalency.

    That brings us to the most troubling of the possible explanations for these fraudulent photos, which is that some of the photojournalists involved are either intimidated by or sympathetic to the Hezbollah terrorists. It’s a possibility fraught with harsh implications, but it needs to be examined thoroughly and openly.

    Johnson and his colleagues have done the serious news media a service. Failure to follow up on it would be worse than churlish; it would be irresponsible.

  13. Rujax spews:

    Saturday, 8/12/06 at 12:09 pm

    Dear Mark the Fucktard…

    You fake running dog capitalists are paying a fuck of a lot of money to try and buy this Senate seat, and it looks like Mike! is running the same kind of mind-numbingly stupid campaign that Joe! ran.

    Does it seem like yer gittin’ yer $$$$’s worth here? All that blather about being a great bidnizman. You’re just another rethug chump that can’t win on a level field.

    Figures.

    P.S. You’re a welsher, too.

  14. Roger Rabbit spews:

    Saturday, 8/12/06 at 12:10 pm

    2

    Yeah Mark In Denial, Darcy was an executive at Microsoft. She was in charge of a project, was given a $16 million budget, supervised three dozen employees working on the project, and was accountable for project results and timeliness. If that isn’t an “executive,” then what the fuck is?

    Your post illustrates why wingnut liars like you are losing all credibility, everywhere, with everyone — you don’t know when to stop. Instead of telling clever little lies that naive people might actually believe, you go for the outrageous whoppers nobody could possibly believe, unless they’re as brainwashed as you.

    When you deny that Darcy Burner was a Microsoft executive, you’re asking the public to swallow a pig. Whole. Choke on it, pinocchio-nose.

  15. JC Bob spews:

    Saturday, 8/12/06 at 12:11 pm

    Tired of high gas prices?

    You can thank oil barron BJ Clinton for a fair share of the blame.

    During BJ’s watch, his Justice Department and Federal Trade Commission allowed 6 major oil companies to be merged out of existance. Now, I know you Kool Aid drinkers will find it hard to follow but the more businesses that are chasing consumer dollars there are, the more competitive their pricing will be. Is there a one of you out there that does not think the oil companies are gouging the consumer? You have BJ to thank for that.

    During BJ’s watch, in order to curry favor with Japan, BJ lifted the ban on export of crude oil from Alaska. So, instead of being able to sell Alaskan crude only to the western U.S., the oil companies can sell it to the world. Gee, thank you BJ for always looking out of the little guy

    Bob from Jefferson County.

  16. Rujax spews:

    Saturday, 8/12/06 at 12:11 pm

    Oh yeah…

    …”Jaybo” really needs to lecture US on propaganda after all the bile he/she/it spills here.

    Lay your ignorant opinion on someone who cares, asshole.

  17. Roger Rabbit spews:

    Saturday, 8/12/06 at 12:25 pm

    From the P-I article Goldy linked to:

    “In his statement Friday, McGavick said, ‘We know that the incumbent senator and her allies are spending and will spend nearly unlimited amounts to win this election.'”

    No, Cantwell will spend whatever her campaign and the Democratic Party can raise on her behalf. Candidates of both parties like to get a lot of small donations to show broad-based support, but these small contributions don’t begin to cover the cost of modern multimillion-dollar campaigns. Like the Republicans, the Democrats depend on big donations from wealthy indivdiuals, large organizations, and PACs; unlike the Republicans, the Democrats can’t tap the ocean of funding controlled by big corporations and the upper class — the GOP has access to far more money than the Democrats do.

    Wealthy candidates self-financing their campaigns is a growing (and disturbing) trend in both parties. Very few non-millionaires are serving in Congress. The number of truck drivers, waitresses, or construction laborers in Congress is zero. America’s working people are severely underrepresented in higher public offices. Why? Because politics consumes so much time and money, only the rich can run for office. Politics has a hobby of the idle rich.

    It is, therefore, not surprising that the economic policies of both political parties are geared toward serving the interests of the wealthy, while the PRODUCERS who do the nation’s work and produce its economic output get fucked over on everything from tax policy to who gets the lion’s share of government subsidies.

    For the working class, the economic growth figures are utterly illusory. Workers and middle class managers and professionals are poorer today, in real terms, than they were in 1970. None of the economic growth of the last 35 years — the era of so-called “trickle-down” economics — has trickled below the richest 20% of households. Why? Because the system is stacked against them. Why? Because our political system represents the wealthiest 20% of the population, and the other 80% of us have no representation at all.

    We should scrap this mercenary system of selling our public offices to the highest bidders and go to European-style public financing of election campaigns. Until we do, there will never be rational economic policies in our country.

  18. Janet S spews:

    Saturday, 8/12/06 at 12:26 pm

    Oh, Roger, even the local papers have taken off “executive” when describing Darcy. Let’s finally settle it: she had executive level responsibilities, but she wasn’t a Microsoft Executive. It is kind of like when she flashes “Air Force Veteran” in her ad. She is the child of a veteran, but she isn’t one herself.

    By the way, anyone know what her thoughts are about the middle east? Does she think the Israelis should just walk away, and let Hezbollah continue lobbing rockets at them? Does she think we should negotiate with a group that wants Israel off the map? In return for Hezbollah to stop attacking Israel, what do they want?

    And why aren’t there peace marches for Israelis? They are being attacked relentlessly by Islamofascists.

  19. killatroll/saveablog spews:

    Saturday, 8/12/06 at 12:27 pm

    Rujax@13 That’s DoctorFucktard to you and me. Mark old buddy is as particular about his professional qualifications as he is about welshing his bets.

  20. Roger Rabbit spews:

    Saturday, 8/12/06 at 12:28 pm

    15

    Hey Bob, can you give me the executive order number and date when Bush reimposed export curbs on Alaska oil? Oh, and one more thing, how many big oil companies has the Antitrust Division of Bush’s Justice Department broken up?

  21. Roger Rabbit spews:

    Saturday, 8/12/06 at 12:32 pm

    18

    “executive-level responsibilities”

    That’s a huge concession from you, Janet. Now why don’t you make the final, teensy step to honesty by admitting Darcy was an “executive?”

    Note, I didn’t say “Executive.” I don’t know whether MS bestows a job title called Executive. (I do know that almost everyone working for a bank above the teller level is an Account Executive, Assistant Vice President, or Vice President.) In any case, I never said she was a Microsoft Executive — I said she was a Microsoft executive. Which she clearly was, by any reasonable common understanding, or by any dictionary definition.

    In fact, if you look it about, a person with “executive-level responsibilities” is, by definition, an executive. Now how about it, Janet Whore, give it up and admit that Darcy was an executive.

  22. Roger Rabbit spews:

    Saturday, 8/12/06 at 12:37 pm

    11

    “This is just amazing to me. Makes millions a year and then steals gift cards? 10 years plus triple damages back to the shareholders is just. And who hired this greedy asshole?” Commentby Doctor JCH Kennedy— 8/12/06@ 11:27 am

    Geez, Doktor JCH, I’m blown away!!! We AGREE on something!!! Who’da ever thunk. A rich guy steals millions and gets a slap on the wrist; a homeless bum shoplifts a loaf of bread from Safeway and gets 5 years of hard time. That’s how our criminal injustice system normally works — the more you steal, the lighter the sentence, and the richer you are, the lighter still. These dude’s mistake was stealing gift cards. He should’ve back up a fleet of semis to the loading dock door and made off with $50 million of merchandise. Then, he would have gotten a $50 fine, suspended, on condition he not reoffend within 10 days.

  23. Roger Rabbit spews:

    Saturday, 8/12/06 at 12:38 pm

    11

    Now, Craig, what do you suggest we do about CEOs who steal from their shareholders by lifting $28 million from the company for doing two months of part-time “consulting work”?

  24. Roger Rabbit spews:

    Saturday, 8/12/06 at 12:39 pm

    10

    “Hey, Roger Rabbit, are you really a fag?” Commentby Doctor JCH Kennedy— 8/12/06@ 11:18 am

    No. But I suspect you are. Are you?

  25. skagit spews:

    Saturday, 8/12/06 at 12:55 pm

    Mike McGavick’s campaign in toto: Loudly proclaiim civility while practicing negativity and duplicity and deny, deny, deny.

  26. Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:

    Saturday, 8/12/06 at 2:27 pm

    Workers paid by a liberal group to register voters in Franklin County have turned in more than 500 forms with nonexistent addresses and potentially fake signatures, elections officials said yesterday. (SNIP) Elections workers verifying new-voter forms discovered signatures with the same handwriting, addresses that were for vacant lots and incorrect information for voters who already were registered, Damschroder said. One card had the name of an East Side man who’s dead.

    I’m SHOCKED, I tell you, just SHOCKED! Democrat cheating? NO!!!!!!!! Roger, are you shocked? Left Turn?? GBS? DR E??

    These are perfectly good traditional fake Democrat voters who helped to almost elect Al Gore and John Fucking Kerry. And Ohio is in play!! “Count every vote”!!!!!!!

  27. Harry Tuttle spews:

    Saturday, 8/12/06 at 2:40 pm

    ANDY: Ah, well I’m not going to Iraq to fight in some bullshit war about oil money.

    DOUG: Bullshit war? What about 9/11? Didn’t Iran hide the terrorists?

    ANDY: [pause] We’re fighting a war in Iraq, Doug, and neither had anything to do with blowin’ up the World Trade Center.

    DOUG: Well, they both have sand.

    ANDY: Bush invaded a sovereign nation in defiance of the UN. He’s a war criminal, and now I’m supposed to be one of his disposable thugs, with a fuckin’ target on my head, in the middle of the desert, waitin’ to be blown up by a car bomb rigged by some 12-year-old, who loved Friends and Metallicauntil one of our missiles blew up his house?! I don’t think so!

    DOUG: They had weapons of mass destruction!

    ANDY: They had NO weapons of mass destruction!!

    DOUG: No? Well, whatever. Look, I’ve got a lot of shit to do.

    ANDY: Name me one thing you’ve got to do that’s more important than the corporate takeover of our democracy!

    DOUG: I gotta take a shit.

    ANDY: You gotta help me, man.

    DOUG: I will, I will. I’m gonna put one of those yellow ribbon stickers on my car. For you.

    ANDY: How can you be so blindly pro-Bush?

    DOUG: I like his wife, Laura. I used to buy weed from her, at SMU. Good shit! Good shit.

    Weeds“The Godmother”, Showtime

  28. killatroll/saveablog spews:

    Saturday, 8/12/06 at 2:44 pm

    I want to know if Doctor Fucktard Mark is in favor of a draft. And if not a general draft, then a draft for physicians? Then you could join up to fight in your yellow-elephant war and be called DoctorLieutenantFucktardMark .

  29. jaybo spews:

    Saturday, 8/12/06 at 3:22 pm

    Too Funny!

    Lamont is toast and further, the latest political buzz is that the current situation there will call into question other congressional races in Connecticut in which the incumbant is a republican. Leave it to the “Kos Kids” and Move-On to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory!

    Connecticut Senate: Two Days After Primary, Lieberman Ahead by 5

    Lieberman 46%, Lamont 41%
    August 12, 2006

    Senator Joseph Lieberman Senator Joe Lieberman’s decision to run as an Independent sets up a lively campaign season for Connecticut voters. In the first General Election poll since Ned Lamont defeated Lieberman in Tuesday’s primary, the incumbent is hanging on to a five percentage point lead. Lieberman earns support from 46% of Connecticut voters while Lamont is the choice of 41% (see crosstabs).

    A month ago, the candidates were tied at 40% each.

    Republican Alan Schlesinger earns just 6% of the vote, down from 13% a month ago.

    57% of the state’s voters view Lieberman as politically moderate while 51% see Lamont as liberal.

    Half (52%) of Lamont voters believe Bush should be impeached and removed from office. Just 15% of Lieberman voters share that view.

    Overall, 55% of Connecticut voters trust Lieberman more than Lamont when it comes to the War on Terror. Thirty-one percent (31%) trust Lamont.

    Thirty-one percent (31%) have a Very Favorable opinion of Lieberman, 18% Very Unfavorable.

    For Lamont, the numbers are 19% Very Favorable, 23% Very Unfavorable.

    Lieberman still attracts 35% of votes from Democrats. Lamont will have to find a way to trim that number without alienating unaffiliated voters. Lieberman is viewed at least somewhat favorably by 65% of unaffiliated voters compared to 49% for Lamont.

    Crosstabs are available for Premium Members only.

    Rasmussen Reports is an electronic publishing firm specializing in the collection, publication, and distribution of public opinion polling information.

    The Rasmussen Reports ElectionEdge™ Premium Service for Election 2006 offers the most comprehensive public opinion coverage ever provided for a mid-term election. We update the President’s Job Approval Ratings daily and are polling every Senate and Governor’s race at least once a month in 2006.

    Rasmussen Reports was the nation’s most accurate polling firm during the Presidential election and the only one to project both Bush and Kerry’s vote total within half a percentage point of the actual outcome.

    During Election 2004, RasmussenReports.com was also the top-ranked public opinion research site on the web. We had twice as many visitors as our nearest competitor and nearly as many as all competitors combined.

    Scott Rasmussen, president of Rasmussen Reports, has been an independent pollster for more than a decade.

  30. Another TJ spews:

    Saturday, 8/12/06 at 3:29 pm

    the latest political buzz is that the current situation there will call into question other congressional races in Connecticut in which the incumbant is a republican.

    From the same great minds that predicted a Lieberman landslide. Thanks, but, as the old Texas saying goes, “Fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can’t get fooled again.”

  31. ArtFart spews:

    Saturday, 8/12/06 at 3:57 pm

    Uhhh…is Mark a Doctor of Fucktardery? Would that make him an FtD?

    Re: #7…Interesting stuff, Richard. I would suspect that it was some staffoid and not Maria herself who trotted the FEC filing to UPS, or wherever. It’s kind of amazing in this day and age, what with the amoung of the (present and future) taxpayers’ money that’s spent on computery, that there isn’t a way to file such things electronically.

    Back in late 2001, I filed a comment on the CARP proceedings (having to do with royalties for transmitting music over the Internet) with the Copyright Office. This was in the aftermath of the anthrax-in-the-mail scare, and their Web site’s “request for comments” page had a blurb at the end stating that USPS mail to most Federal offices (including theirs) was being quarantined for two weeks or more, so anyone sending a comment had better do so by Fedex or UPS air. It turned out that out of hundreds of people who submitted comments, mine was one of only 49 that made it on time and were accepted. I wonder if someone in Cantwell’s office was assuming something similar was still in effect (and still screwed up by not sending it air)…or if mail to the Nation’s Capitol indeed is still being handled in that manner.

  32. Janet S spews:

    Saturday, 8/12/06 at 4:07 pm

    Roger, stop being an idiot. You are trying to attach a level of credibility to Darcy that she hasn’t earned. By suggesting that she is “an executive who worked at Microsoft” you imply that she was a Microsoft Executive. Or you are hoping the average voter in the 8th isn’t smart enough to see the distinction. She was most decidedly not a Microsoft Executive, which carries with it a level of distinction and career achievement she doesn’t have. By continuing on with clouding the line between these two statements you are just perpetuating campaign propaganda that is getting tiresome.

  33. Mark The Redneck spews:

    Saturday, 8/12/06 at 4:11 pm

    killablog – I want to commend you for your recent work uncovering just one of the qualifications held by one of your betters. I hope in some way I may have inspired you to improve yourself and get out of the awful hole that you’re in.

    It’s one thing to get an engineering degree. That’s fucking hard enough. When I did it, about one in three made it through university. But then you have to apply to the state and they decide if they’ll even let you take the tests. The tests really separate the men from the boys. In my case, I passed both tests the first time. The pass rate in each case was about 25%.

    The tests are graded by a panel of licensed professionals with complete disregard of whether you have a vagina, without regard to skin color, or regardless if you think of yourself as a victim of social injustice. Hell, they don’t even take into account who you fuck and whether you think it’s kind of neat to have somebody come in the out door.

    If I can inspire you any further please let me know.

    Dumass…

  34. Mark The Redneck spews:

    Saturday, 8/12/06 at 4:12 pm

    “Roger, stop being an idiot.”

    Forget it Janet… it’s a lost cause…

  35. Mark The Redneck spews:

    Saturday, 8/12/06 at 4:28 pm

    One of the heros of the moonbat left is George Soros. Soros is a very wealthy person with an agenda of hate and intolerance and viciously supports democrats.

    How many of you moonbats know where he got his money. Let me educate you.

    Soros made his money in the FX market. (That’s Foreign Exchange for those of you with no fancy book larnin’). Soros thought the Thai Baht was improperly valued, so he launched an attack on the Baht, the good people of Thailand, and in the process started a global contagion that disrupted global financial markets and actually resulted in people dying. That’s your hero.

    What he did was borrow a huge sum of money denominated in Baht. He then went into the FX market and exchanged the Baht for dollars. He then was able to start a rumor that the Thai government was about to devalue the Baht, and after a while people started believing it. The Baht went into crisis and in the end it was devalued. Soros then paid off the debt in dollars, but due to exchange rate changes, he needed far fewer dollars to pay it off and pocketed the difference. That’s where he got his money.

    In true librul fashion, he didn’t give a fuck about the impact he had on the people of Thailand. Families and businesses saw their net worth shrink to a fraction of what it was before Soros came along. Many people committed suicide. Families were destroyed. Businesses were destroyed. But Soros had his money and he could spend it on promoting evil around the world. Which he does to this day.

    So until your heros are clean, you’ve got no fucking business questioning McGavick.

    Fucking hypocrites…

  36. Roger Rabbit spews:

    Saturday, 8/12/06 at 4:50 pm

    REPUBLICAN LOVE TERRORISTS

    They don’t want this guy extradited to Venezuela, where he is wanted for blowing up an airliner with 73 people aboard — not to mention hotel bombings and other acts of terrorism too numerous to count. Why? Oh, because to a Republican, a “terrorist” is someone who kills people Republicans like; terrorists who kill people Republicans don’t like are “freedom fighters.” http://tinyurl.com/f4g2b

  37. Roger Rabbit spews:

    Saturday, 8/12/06 at 4:50 pm

    35

    Gee Mark — isn’t Soros a PRODUCER?

  38. Dan Rather-Whats the frequen spews:

    Saturday, 8/12/06 at 4:51 pm

    Before I forget:

    Exclusive.

    Was the Jew killer a conservative or liberal. In the Seattle Times we have the following quote:

    Haq’s friend said he couldn’t believe the timid, “geeky” man he knew from the tutoring center was capable of such violence.

    “Are you sure we’re talking about the same person?” he said Sunday………….

    He said Haq was not a devout Muslim and often complained that the Tri-Cities were too politically conservative.

    “I’m beginning to think I was his only friend in the Tri-Cities. I don’t recall him hanging out with anybody else.”

    Now for the other side we turn to Goldy’s story from last week:

    Psssssssssstttttttt…….

    Ah it looks like the story was all a bunch of hot air. Well there you have it. Enjoy all you Nazi Libs.

  39. Roger Rabbit spews:

    Saturday, 8/12/06 at 4:51 pm

    35 (continued)

    Soros isn’t a PRODUCER? I’m shocked! Who woulda thunk!

  40. Janet S spews:

    Saturday, 8/12/06 at 4:54 pm

    Darcy has a problem with the truth. She knows what it is, and shades her story just enough so she, and her useful minions, can say she isn’t lying.

    The executive thing is just a start. Now her ad has in bold letters “Air Force Veteran”, while the voiceover says she is the child of an Air Force Veteran. Is it a lie? Sure it is, but a deniable one.

    Ask her about the war in Iraq and she tells you all about being an army brat and her brother who is serving in Iraq. She implies that he agrees with her views. But he can’t legally speak for himself, so she gets away with it.

    She claims experience at motherhood, and yet has a child who is three years old and has not been raised by her. She has either been at law school or running for Congress, and he isn’t old enough to endow any sainthood to her skills. So why does she claim this?

    I’m hoping the voters in the 8th are smart enough to see through this.

  41. For the Clueless spews:

    Saturday, 8/12/06 at 4:58 pm

    Bet Welsher,

    #1 Pay your gambling debt. Until you do, you’re lower than scum with absolutely zip for moral character.

    #2 No one had to take the other side of Soros’ trades if they truly cared about the welfare of the Thais. The financial markets are totally AMORAL – if Soros didn’t take advantage of the opportunity to profit SOMEONE ELSE WOULD. Redneck you’re just resentful because you’re too poor to participate in one of Soros’ Hedge Funds unlike real players. Sorry loser.

    #3 See #1.

  42. Dan Rather-Whats the frequen spews:

    Saturday, 8/12/06 at 5:18 pm

    They don’t want this guy extradited to Venezuela, where he is wanted for blowing up an airliner with 73 people aboard – not to mention hotel bombings and other acts of terrorism too numerous to count. Why? Oh, because to a Republican, a “terrorist” is someone who kills people Republicans like; terrorists who kill people Republicans don’t like are “freedom fighters.” http://tinyurl.com/f4g2b

    Commentby Roger Rabbit— 8/12/06@ 4:50 pm

    Liberals hate this guy. Of course we know liberals love commies so it makes sense. hehe

  43. killatroll/saveablog spews:

    Saturday, 8/12/06 at 5:44 pm

    Markand the RetardedRednecks@33Ya, know, Mark, I had that Karnak moment I was talking about. . .and the numbers came in real clear but they did’t link up to anyone named Mark. . .Dumass. You really are a Dr. of Fucktardery. . .Jeff!

  44. spitintheocean spews:

    Saturday, 8/12/06 at 6:21 pm

    So many Mc Millionaires to choose from . Which multi-millionaire represents your blue collar values ??

  45. righton spews:

    Saturday, 8/12/06 at 6:22 pm

    goldy,
    Are you paid to ignore the terrorist threat and thwarted attacks?

    Wierd, you’d care more about the threat to Maria than you are to our health and welfare…

  46. Mark The Redneck spews:

    Saturday, 8/12/06 at 6:43 pm

    MTR’s moonbat poll:

    What is the greatest threat to civilization:

    1) George W. Bush
    2) The Smartest Woman in The World
    3) THE FUCKING SUN
    4) Mooslim terrorists who want to kill all of us…

  47. skagit spews:

    Saturday, 8/12/06 at 6:46 pm

    Roger, stop being an idiot. You are trying to attach a level of credibility to Darcy that she hasn’t earned. By suggesting that she is “an executive who worked at Microsoft” you imply that she was a Microsoft Executive. Or you are hoping the average voter in the 8th isn’t smart enough to see the distinction. She was most decidedly not a Microsoft Executive, which carries with it a level of distinction and career achievement she doesn’t have. By continuing on with clouding the line between these two statements you are just perpetuating campaign propaganda that is getting tiresome.

    Commentby Janet S— 8/12/06@ 4:07 pm

    Keep trying, Dame Janet. You bark the same old rant every time you post. Your propaganda is not only getting tiresome, it seems that all you have in your teene weeny brain.

  48. Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:

    Saturday, 8/12/06 at 6:54 pm

    CARO, Mich.-Three Texas men were arraigned Saturday on terrorism-related charges after police found about 1,000 cell phones in their minivan. A magistrate set bond at $750,000 for each of the men, who are charged with collecting or providing materials for terrorist acts and surveillance of a vulnerable target for terrorist purposes. Officials have declined to say how the case relates to terrorism.

    And we can all thank the New York Times, the ACLU and the Democrat Party for this.

    We were conducting prudent surveilance on terrorists–and they didn’t know it. But the NYT, the Democrats, et al, warned their allies among the terrorist ranks.

    So, the need for cell phones…

    The Democrats are traitors–and should be prosecuted for sedition…

  49. righton spews:

    Saturday, 8/12/06 at 7:59 pm

    skagit;

    You guys are funny; Janet uses logic, and you can’t handle it, so you create a false debate about propaganda.

    Roger stumbled, vote for Darcy for her lefty politics, but don’t insult our intelligence by claiming by age 28 and at a low to mid level job she had ascended into extecutiveland…

  50. Anonymous spews:

    Saturday, 8/12/06 at 8:03 pm

    JCH, do you have an erection (such as it is) when you type this horseshit in? I can imagine you being one of the dudes who wishes he could have been at Aushwitz, rubbing one out every time you imagine being allowed to turn on the gas.

  51. Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:

    Saturday, 8/12/06 at 8:10 pm

    Anonymous, If you are a muuuuuuuuslim, I would have to deport you back to Muslimland.

  52. Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:

    Saturday, 8/12/06 at 8:10 pm

    Get on the boxcar, Anonymous!! NOW!!

  53. skagit spews:

    Saturday, 8/12/06 at 8:11 pm

    You guys are funny; Janet uses logic, and you can’t handle it, so you create a false debate about propaganda.

    Commentby righton— 8/12/06@ 7:59 pm

    Oh yes, Dame Janet and her oft-used tired old rant. I might agree with you runon, but she’s going to have to come up with something fresh if she wants some credit for logic. We’ve already put this one to rest but she doesn’t seem to get it.

  54. Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:

    Saturday, 8/12/06 at 8:13 pm

    Anonymous, You might have a different opinion if someone from YOUR family was killed on 9/11, or if someone from YOUR family served in the military. I have NO DOUBT YOUR military service is similiar to Miss Goldie’s. [PUSSYS!!]

  55. LeftTurn spews:

    Saturday, 8/12/06 at 8:49 pm

    Janet S please please please go write a letter to the editor saying you have the goods on Darcy.

    1) She got straight As in law school and went to Harvard
    2) You’ve decided that parsing each word of her resume will somehow cause the world to think that a person who spent three years managing people at Microsoft isn’t as competent as say, a sheriff who couldn’t catch a high school drop out
    3) A woman’s place is in the home.

    This is the sum total of your smoking gun. And you’ve never once been able to articulate any reason why we should vote for RubberStampReichert, the man who votes with Bush (you know, 33% approval rating Bush) all of the time.

  56. righton spews:

    Saturday, 8/12/06 at 8:56 pm

    Leftturn

    You meant

    a( she got straights for 1/3 of a law school education.
    b) she spends scarce time w/ her infant; hard to call that one long term but yeah, a moms place is with her child

  57. skagit spews:

    Saturday, 8/12/06 at 9:02 pm

    Ooh, Runon . . . you must be Dame Janet’s bastard child since you are both endowed with the inability to move beyond the two only facts in your feebles heads. BTW, is that why you lack critical thinkings skills? Because Dame Judith turned you over to nanny?

  58. skagit spews:

    Saturday, 8/12/06 at 9:03 pm

    Whoops! Make that “Dame Janet” . . . course, it your circle it doesn’t really matter.

  59. none specified spews:

    Saturday, 8/12/06 at 9:24 pm

    Sure Cantwell used some of her own $$ to beat Gorton. So what?
    The real issue here is the hypocracy of McGavick and his GOP cohorts who blasted Cantwell every which way for spending her money on the campaign. So now McGavick gets a 28 million dollar gift from the Safeco board and will sink millions into his campaign. Certainly it will be more than a couple of million, we are probably talking 8 or 10 or more and it will be spent on negative advertising that he will also be proven a hypocrite on…

  60. Roger Rabbit spews:

    Saturday, 8/12/06 at 10:09 pm

    32

    “By suggesting that she is ‘an executive who worked at Microsoft’ you imply that she was a Microsoft Executive.”

    I said no such thing. I said Darcy was a Microsoft executive; I never said she was a Microsoft Executive. Stop putting words in my mouth.

  61. Roger Rabbit spews:

    Saturday, 8/12/06 at 10:11 pm

    34

    “Forget it Janet… it’s a lost cause…” Commentby Mark The Redneck— 8/12/06@ 4:12 pm

    Speaking of lost causes …

    the child support Mark owes his ex;
    the bet Mark owes Goldy;
    asking any trollfuck to contribute $99 to http://www.operation-helmet.org/ to save a soldier’s life.

  62. Roger Rabbit spews:

    Saturday, 8/12/06 at 10:11 pm

    Another lost cause is hoping for anything intelligent to emanate from Janet Whore’s keyboard.

  63. Roger Rabbit spews:

    Saturday, 8/12/06 at 10:13 pm

    42

    “Liberals hate this guy.” Commentby Dan Rather-Whats the frequen— 8/12/06@ 5:18 pm

    somebody who blows up an airliner with 73 people aboard doesn’t deserve to be hated?

  64. Roger Rabbit spews:

    Saturday, 8/12/06 at 10:16 pm

    33

    “The tests are graded by a panel of licensed professionals with complete disregard of whether you have a vagina” Commentby Mark The Redneck— 8/12/06@ 4:11 pm

    Well things have changed then, because when I was in college I knew a very smart girl who enrolled for engineering classes, and on the first day of class 4 of her 5 professors told her to enroll in something else and they would not give her passing grades no matter what, because “engineering is a man’s profession and we don’t allow girls to become engineers.”

  65. Roger Rabbit spews:

    Saturday, 8/12/06 at 10:16 pm

    Engineers may be good with slide rules and numbers, but they don’t know shit about anything else.

  66. Roger Rabbit spews:

    Saturday, 8/12/06 at 10:17 pm

    I’d like to see how many P.E.s, C.E.s, and E.E.s could pass those tests if they had to answer a couple of 9th-grade civics questions.

  67. Roger Rabbit spews:

    Saturday, 8/12/06 at 10:20 pm

    SAMPLE QUESTION FOR ENGINEERING LICENSE EXAM

    If you wife leaves you and a judge orders you to pay child support you’re supposed to

    [ ] 1. Board the next plane to Brazil
    [ ] 2. Hire a hit man to take her out
    [ ] 3. Change your name and move your bank accounts to Belize
    [ ] 4. Shut up and pay it

  68. Janet S spews:

    Sunday, 8/13/06 at 12:08 am

    Okay, Roger, we are confirmed that you are an idiot.

    32

    “By suggesting that she is ‘an executive who worked at Microsoft’ you imply that she was a Microsoft Executive.”

    I said no such thing. I said Darcy was a Microsoft executive; I never said she was a Microsoft Executive. Stop putting words in my mouth.

    Commentby Roger Rabbit— 8/12/06@ 10:09 pm

    Darcy works at the edges of truth. She wants the cloaking of motherhood, but has only delivered a child, not actually raised a child. She wants to be a software exec, but hasn’t really gotten there. In fact, she washed out early on because she couldn’t handle it. She claims some legitimacy throught law school, but, even if she got A’s, bailed out after the first year.

    Left turn, skagit, all you guys – answer with something other than a personal attack on me. Otherwise you are just the same level of idiocy as Roger.

  69. Janet S spews:

    Sunday, 8/13/06 at 12:14 am

    BTW – I was an econ major awhile ago. I was told by a professor that, even though I was in the top 10 of econ students, I should not consider post graduate work because of my sex. There was really nothing to be gained by a woman getting a masters in econ, she would just go have kids and never really make use of the degree.

    Fortunately, I ignored this professor, and got a graduate degree anyway. Then I went and had children. So who was right?

  70. Janet S spews:

    Sunday, 8/13/06 at 12:30 am

    And, you still haven’t answered how Darcy would respond to the current call to negotiate with terrorists:

    US: Okay, we agree to pressure Israel to stop attacking strategic sites in Lebanon. In returnm we want Hezbollah to stop lobbing random rockets at innocent civilians.

    UN: We will send in the French to disarm Hezbollah. They will assist UNIFIL who have aided Hizbollah for years. And we trust that a terrorist militia who have a goal of eliminating Israel from the planet will comply with a UN resolution.

    US: Okay, and when Hezbollah keeps lobbing murderous rockets at innocent civilians, in direct contradiction of cease-fire accords, we will (fill in the blank)

    What does Darcy propose? What does Maria propose?

    These are the empty rantings of a party who has no serious proposal. They just hate bush and don’t care who dies.

  71. jaybo spews:

    Sunday, 8/13/06 at 6:50 am

    Roger @ 68,

    “I said no such thing. I said Darcy was a Microsoft executive; I never said she was a Microsoft Executive. Stop putting words in my mouth.”

    So by changing the word “Executive” to “executive” it changes the meaning?

    What world do you live in?

    LOL.

  72. jaybo spews:

    Sunday, 8/13/06 at 7:53 am

    San Francisco’s liberals finally let America know where they stand. Goldy should really feel a special bond to his buddies there after seeing this.

    http://www.zombietime.com/stop.....8_12_2006/

  73. jaybo spews:

    Sunday, 8/13/06 at 8:03 am

    And more from the “Religion of Peace” and their useful idiots.

    http://www.girlontheright.com/.....ities.html

  74. howcanyoubePROUDtobeaKennedy spews:

    Sunday, 8/13/06 at 9:46 am

    What does Darcy propose? What does Maria propose? -Commentby Janet S— 8/13/06@ 12:30 am

    They propose waving great big white flags while shouting “Don’t shoot! don’t shoot, we’re on your side… we looooove you… kumbaya baby… what color burka do you want me to wear?”

  75. skagit spews:

    Sunday, 8/13/06 at 11:14 am

    BTW – I was an econ major awhile ago. I was told by a professor that, even though I was in the top 10 of econ students, I should not consider post graduate work because of my sex. There was really nothing to be gained by a woman getting a masters in econ, she would just go have kids and never really make use of the degree.

    Fortunately, I ignored this professor, and got a graduate degree anyway. Then I went and had children. So who was right?

    Commentby Janet S— 8/13/06@ 12:14 am

    Gawd, we knew you were old, Dame Janet, but not that old! (lol) Also, kind of a waste of an econ degree, wasn’t it?

  76. Janet S spews:

    Sunday, 8/13/06 at 12:32 pm

    Sorry to break it to you Skagit, but it wasn’t all that long ago. And I actually worked in high tech and aerospace, putting my graduate degree to work.

    So I still dont hear anyone from the left explaining just what is it they want to talk to the terrorists about. We need to have a chat with Iran and Syria – about what?

  77. skagit spews:

    Sunday, 8/13/06 at 1:02 pm

    Oh, escuse me, Dame Janet. . . . your econ degree makes you a foreign policy expert now. I see.

    Well, for starters, how about diplomacy . . . you know, the kind that avoids war? Or are you someone who prefers to send her kids to die?

  78. jaybo spews:

    Sunday, 8/13/06 at 1:47 pm

    A somber dose of reality.

    Red State Jews
    Mugged by Mideast reality.
    The Wall Street Journal

    BY THANE ROSENBAUM
    Sunday, August 13, 2006 12:01 a.m. EDT

    This is a soul-searching moment for the Jewish left. Actually, for many Jewish liberals, navigating the gloomy politics of the Middle East is like walking with two left feet.

    I would know. For six years I was the literary editor of Tikkun magazine, a leading voice for progressive Jewish politics that never avoided subjecting Israel to moral scrutiny. I also teach human rights at a Jesuit university, imparting the lessons of reciprocal grievances and the moral necessity to regard all people with dignity and mutual respect. And I am deeply sensitive to Palestinian pain, and mortified when innocent civilians are used as human shields and then cynically martyred as casualties of war.

    Yet, since 9/11 and the second intifada, in which suicide bombings and beheadings have become the calling cards of Arab diplomacy, and with Hamas and Hezbollah emerging as elected entities that, paradoxically, reject the first principles of liberal democracy, I feel a great deal of moral anguish. Perhaps I have been naive all along.

    And I am not alone. Many Jews are in my position–the children and grandchildren of labor leaders, socialists, pacifists, humanitarians, antiwar protesters–instinctively leaning left, rejecting war, unwilling to demonize, and insisting that violence only breeds more violence. Most of all we share the profound belief that killing, humiliation and the infliction of unnecessary pain are not Jewish attributes.
    However, the world as we know it today–post-Holocaust, post-9/11, post-sanity–is not cooperating. Given the realities of the new Middle East, perhaps it is time for a reality check. For this reason, many Jewish liberals are surrendering to the mindset that there are no solutions other than to allow Israel to defend itself–with whatever means necessary. Unfortunately, the inevitability of Israel coincides with the inevitability of anti-Semitism.

    This is what more politically conservative Jews and hardcore Zionists maintained from the outset. And it was this nightmare that the Jewish left always refused to imagine. So we lay awake at night, afraid to sleep. Surely the Arabs were tired, too. Surely they would want to improve their societies and educate their children rather than strap bombs on to them.

    If the Palestinians didn’t want that for themselves, if building a nation was not their priority, then peace in exchange for territories was nothing but a pipe dream. It was all wish-fulfillment, morally and practically necessary, yet ultimately motivated by a weary Israeli society–the harsh reality of Arab animus, the spiritual toll that the occupation had taken on a Jewish state battered by negative world opinion.

    Despite the deep cynicism, however, Israel knew that it must try. It would have to set aside nearly 60 years of hard-won experience, starting from the very first days of its independence, and believe that the Arab world had softened, would become more welcoming neighbors, and would stop chanting: “Not in our backyard–the Middle East is for Arabs only.”

    It is true that Israel has entered into peace agreements with Egypt and Jordan that have brought some measure of historic stability to the region. But with Israel having withdrawn from Lebanon and Gaza, and with Israeli public opinion virtually united in favor of near-total withdrawal from the West Bank, why are rockets being launched at Israel now, why are their soldiers being kidnapped if the aspirations of the Palestinian people, and the intentions of Hamas and Hezbollah, stand for something other than the total destruction of Israel? And if Palestinians and the Lebanese are electing terrorists and giving them the portfolio of statesmen, then what message is being sent to moderate voices, what incentives are there to negotiate, and how can any of this sobering news be recast in a more favorable light?

    The Jewish left is now in shambles. Peace Now advocates have lost their momentum, and, in some sense, their moral clarity. Opinion polls in Israel are showing near unanimous support for stronger incursions into Lebanon. And until kidnapped soldiers are returned and acts of terror curtailed, any further conversations about the future of the West Bank have been set aside.
    Not unlike the deep divisions between the values of red- and blue-state America, world Jewry is being forced to reconsider all of its underlying assumptions about peace in the Middle East. The recent disastrous events in Lebanon and Gaza have inadvertently created a newly united Jewish consciousness–bringing right and left together into one deeply cynical red state.

    Mr. Rosenbaum, a novelist and professor at Fordham Law School, is author, most recently, of “The Myth of Moral Justice” (HarperCollins, 2004).

  79. Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 8/14/06 at 12:25 am

    68

    “In fact, she washed out early on because she couldn’t handle it.”

    Darcy “washed out” of Microsoft? What’s your basis for this assertion? Janet the Shill is getting shrill — she must be desperate.

    “Left turn, skagit, all you guys – answer with something other than a personal attack on me. Otherwise you are just the same level of idiocy as Roger.” Commentby Janet S— 8/13/06@ 12:08 am

    Well, anyway, we’ve just established that YOU are the same level as me.

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    Monday, 8/14/06 at 12:26 am

    79

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