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Survey USA has Gov. Christine Gregoire at a positive job approval rating of 52% – 45%. That’s pretty middle of the pack as far as governors go, but a far cry from the 52% – 38% negative approval rating she had the same time last year, in the wake of the election contest trial.

Here’s my bold, pull it out of my ass prediction. Same time next year: 56% – 39% positive.

Comments

  1. Christine Gregoire hugs rabbits, too. Why are Republicans like Dinosaur Lossi and RubberStampReichert animal haters?

  2. In the absence of some unanticipated event (e.g., energy shortages in CA a few years ago) I think Goldy is right. And the better things go, the more petty crap folks like Richard Pope will dredge up. The problem with that tactic is Washington voters are pretty moderate and laid back; they don’t go for the shrill, Atlas-shrugged zealotry that is considered normal among the trolls on these threads.

    I work in state government, and what I keep hearing from the long-timers is that Gregoire has been unusually “activist” in initiating internal reforms. Some of those reforms have pissed off complacent agencies, but they do generally make government work better for citizens. So I can see how the electorate may never feel all warm and fuzzy toward Gregoire, but may come to respect her stewardship.

    Whatever else you can say about her, she works very hard, she has an intricate grasp of how state government works, she places high expectations on state workers, and for a Democrat she has placed an unusual emphasis on improving government efficiency.

    Rossi’s moment may have passed.

  3. Bush would love to have anywhere near as much support as Chris. Baby Bush’s approval is wavering around 34%-39% depending on whether or not it’s a Faux News Poll. His disapprovals are staggeringly high – in fact the highest since Nixon!

    He’ll pull the GOP down and that will help Chris and all Dems.

  6. 3.

    Sounds right to me, GT. Gregoire would have done much better in 2004 if the voters had had a better idea of who she was. The outcome was a close as it was because the difference between her and Rossi wasn’t clear. Much like the 2000 presidential race.

  8. damn it

    So why doesn’t the benevolent {snicker} illegitimate queen do do this for her ignored subjects?

    We’ll be waiting chrissy…. probably till we’ve moved from this formerly-great-now-2nd-rate pathetic little state or we’re dead.

    BTW did the iqb manage to get herself and her concubine a taxpayer paid vacation…er, trade mission trip to The Paris Air Show again this year??

  9. Does anyone have a link to how many times the Pretender & Thief used our tax money to fly that fat cow of a wife and his twin whores to vacations in texas and elsewhere? I heard Bush has taken more vacation time while in office than any two Presidents.

  11. Republican Ken Lay died of a “massive heart attack” July 5, 2006, before he would serve time for his role in the collapse of Enron, one of the biggest business frauds in US history. Lay died “unexpectedly” during a week’s stay in Colorado

    Impeached Republican official Kathy Augustine dies of a “massive heart attack” on July 11, 2006, after her misconduct cost the state Republican party. She died “unexpectedly” on July 11 at age 50.

    Hmm Is this a new GOP trend?

  12. So Proud, what state are you considering moving to? Said another way, which state or states are run the ways that most appeal to you?

  13. 3 – “I work in state government…”.

    That explains a lot Green Thumb…

    Thanks for sharing that…

  14. Nevada is user friendly – few limitations with the government keeping its nose OUT of its citizens lives… but the desert is not for me.

    Utah would be great: it’s gorgeous, affordable… but the over-riding stridency of the Mormon church is a bit hard on non-mormons.

    Never Florida… been there, done that: too hot, too many bugs, lazy tradesmen, horrendous traffic and too many illegals.

    NH is great (Live Free or Die) but sadly becoming Mass. lite with all the Boston pricks running there to avoid Mass taxes.

    Vermont…um…Bernie Sanders… not on your life.

    I loved living in PA… some of the nicest, kindest people (pay attention WA State) I’ve ever met… but harsh winters.

    Ditto Ohio.

    Never, ever, again Oregon.
    Never NY, NJ, GA, TN, AL, AR, CT, DE, LA, ME, MD, OR MS.

  15. NoLeftbrainandmissinghisLeftnut, you’re a staggering imbecile, but I admire your consistency on that front.

  16. Rick Santorum gave speech at the National Press Club on Thursday. He should a test of the impact of opinions such as those expressed by our resident trolls, because be trotted out the “Islamic fascist” line as it is used here at HA, without definition of who, what and why the term applies.

    Apparently, this is his tactic to scare voters in his state to support him and erase his 18 point poll deficit against Bob Casey. Gay marriage didn’t work, Terry Shiavo missed, so he’s gonna try “IsalamoFascism” now.

    We’ll see if obnoxious and desperate conservatives like Rick Santorum can speak yet more reckless nonsense and save their political skins.

  17. They ARE Islamofacists…what is it with you cowardly libs so afraid to call a spade a damend spade?

    The vast majority of Muslims do not want peace with Israel under any circumstances (unless all the Jews either leave, die or convert to Islam). The rest is just a smokescreen, and you’re playing along, apparently because you hate our president and any Republican so much.

  18. We dodn’t WANT to fight, but there’s an enemy out there that seeks our destruction. They’re NOT tired of fighting. Since they’re not tired, somebody better wear them out or defeat them completely.

    Get it yet or is your turtle head still buried deeply in denial?

  20. In turtle’s pretend fantasy world, if Israel would just be “nicer”, then the Arab world, consisting largely of backwards, violent people following a sick death cult that leaves no room for co-existence with alternative ideologies, would calm down and become more civilized. That’s one theory. The other, that those of us living in the real world have adopted, is that, with the first sign of sufficient weakness, the Arab world will move to exterminate every last Jewish Israeli.

    And then they’ll just move on to their next manufactured grievance, so mushy-headed liberals like turtle can justify their barbarity under some other pretext.

  22. Isn’t it interesting… 20 years ago WA was a terrific place to live… then the liberals Californicated it looking for a cheaper place to live and relief from their self-imposed tax misery.

    5 years agon NH was a terrific place to live… now the liberal Boston pricks are Massifornicating it looking for a cheaper place to live and relief from their self-imposed tax misery.

  23. Do you head in the sand idiots think the suicide bombers will ask you if you hate bush before they blow up a bus, another building or city?

    I know you really think you will be consulted by these thugs and that you will get to tell them what to blow up. I know you really think the thugs will sort us Bush/anti-Bush before the carnage begins.

    Dream on… and keep enjoying those magical mushrooms.

  25. ANOTHER DRUNK REPUBLICAN JAILED

    Republican, Mark Albertini running for governor was arrested on suspicion of public intoxication following a GOP rally in Knoxville, sheriff’s officials said

    Republican Mark Albertini spent the night in the Knox County jail. According to the arrest report,Mark “appeared to be unsteady on his feet.”

    The arrest report says a search of Albertini’s car turned up a bottle of wine and a pistol.

    The Albertini campaign did not immediately return phone calls Friday.

    Knox County Republican Party Chairman Brian Hornback said he saw Albertini at the event Thursday. The rally was billed as an opportunity to hear from Republican U.S. Senate and gubernatorial candidates. No alcohol was served, Hornback said, so he served himself.

    Republican Mark Albertini, a real estate developer from Chattanooga, faces an uphill primary battle against state Sen. Jim Bryson. In his most recent campaign finance report, Albertini said he had raised $500 — less than 1 percent of Bryson’s $520,000. His campaign Web site says his top issues include opposition to abortion and illegal immigration and DUI :)

  27. Oh that david would be more like Aaron

    Aaron Goldstein, a former member of the socialist New Democratic Party

  28. NoLeftbrainandmissinghisLeftnut, you’re a staggering imbecile, but I admire your consistency on that front.

  29. Okay, drunken driving, philandering and self-profiteering regularly appear to be the sins of choice of Republicans.

    Oh Dems do some of that too, but Republicans really seem to have a self-righteous thirst for the activity, especially the drinking and driving part. Just look at George W. Bush.

    So maybe it shouldn’t have been a surprise that Coors beer baron and big financier of radical right wing causes just lost his license for driving while inebriated.

    No one would really care, except Republicans like Coors rub their alleged “moral virtue” in everyone’s face, so when they are revealed to have feet of clay, their image tumbles into a deep stein of hypocrisy.

    Remember So many Republican hypocrites, so little time.

  31. President Bush himself blocked an internal Justice Department inquiry into the administration’s decision to eavesdrop on domestic phone calls without a warrant from a judge, as required by a 1978 law.

    The short-circuiting of that investigation makes it all the more important that Congress demand full judicial review of the program’s legality.

    President Bush started the domestic surveillance program in the belief that his wartime powers, passed by Congress after Sept. 11 gave him the right to sidestep the law.

    In May 2006, the head of the Office of Professional Responsibility wrote to Congress that his office could not investigate because staff members could not get security clearances.

    On Tuesday, Attorney General Alberto Gonzales said at a Senate hearing that it was Bush who denied security clearances and blocked legal and investigative inquiry.

    For 31 years, the Office of Professional Responsibility has conducted investigations into executive branch programs involving the highest levels of classified information. Until now, the office had never been prevented from pursuing an inquiry. The head of the office, H. Marshall Jarrett, made these points within the Bush administration in trying to get the clearances.

    Gonzales told the Senate that the president withheld permission because he wanted to limit the number of individuals who knew the details of the surveillance. Spying on Democrats, etc.

    In the Supreme Court decision last month rejecting military tribunals, Justice John Paul Stevens cited a quotation from James Madison: “The accumulation of all powers, legislative, executive, and judiciary, in the same hands, whether of one, a few, or many, and whether hereditary, self-appointed, or elective, may justly be pronounced the very definition of tyranny.”

    A president who will not let his own Justice Department’s ethics office examine the process by which the administration approved the circumvention of a law is doing his best to unmoor the government from the checks and balances so valued by Madison and the other Founding Fathers.

  32. “ Classical Liberals believe in private property, free markets, economic competition, freedom from coercion, limited government and individual rights. Classical liberals don’t believe in “wealth distribution” either. “

    “ Todays liberals are whiny bastards who want to take from the working to give to themselves. They hate free markets because that means someone always has a chance of doing better than them. They love governmental “coercion” such as hate crimes and hate speech because it forces people who would otherwise tell liberals and their cronies where to shove it to shut up. They dream of a huge government, where “big daddy” takes care of them by sucking the life blood from those who work. Eventually, those that work will get tired of working just to support parasitic liberals and quit working. Then “big daddy” will collapse or create a slave class to do the work the worker bees were doing before they quit. Liberals believe in rights only for themselves and no one else. In short, liberals are the most selfish creatures on the planet and if we’d stop keeping them alive thru social programs they’d eventually die and go away. Evolution at it’s finest …. survival of the fittest. Stop feeding liberals. “

  33. So Many Republican Hypocrites So Little Time…nice try NoLeftbrainandmissinghisLeftnut, but you’re still a staggering imbecile, and I still admire your consistency on that front.

  34. I submit that all these whiny liberal posters who constantly change their names and actually think we don’t recognize them are truly little cowards playing hide and seek…. right NoLeftbrainandmissinghisLeftnut?

  35. Bush commits a felony. Can we impeach him yet or do we need a blow job?

    Bush himself admitted to violating the law when he authorized illegal domestic spying and bypassed the special court that is legally empowered to oversee such spying. Then, the Attorney General of the United States testified to Congress that Bush personally prohibited Justice Department staff from investigating the illegal spying.

    That’s Obstruction of Justice.

    In essence, it’s a double felony.

    Also, American Bar association task force urges Congress to push for judicial review of Bush signing statements since he has been changing laws in the constitution in doing so.

    American Bar Association task force is set to suggest even stronger action.

    The task force will recommend that Congress pass legislation providing for some sort of judicial review of the signing statements.

    Bush has challenged more than 750 laws in more than 100 signing statements. And he has used them to, challenge parts of laws, and challenge them more aggressively, than any president before him.
    Bush signed a torture ban—but then added a statement reserving the right not to enforce the ban, alongside his signature.

    Congress has held a hearing to investigate Bush’s use of the statements, a BIPARTISAN advocacy group has condemned their use.

    BUSH ABOVE THE LAW WHILE HE BREAKS THE LAWS

  36. BUSH ABOVE THE LAWS WHILE HE BREAKS THE LAWS…nice try NoLeftbrainandmissinghisLeftnut, but you’re still a staggering imbecile, and I still admire your consistency on that front.

    And, I still submit that all these whiny liberal posters who constantly change their names and actually think we don’t recognize them are truly little cowards playing hide and seek… right NoLeftbrainandmissinghisLeftnut?

  39. One of the reasons given for going into Iraq was that it would have a stabilizing affect of the entire Middle East and force a settlement of the Palestinian situation. At the time, the starry eyed liberal opinion was that Iraq was not where the terrorists were, that we should rout them out of Afghanistan.

    Today, Israel is fighting wars on two fronts, there is nothing short of a civil war in Baghdad, and the Taliban controls Afghanistan, where Osama bin Laden continues to release video tapes.

    During the past thirty years, Israel and Palestine were closest to settlement just before the installation of a Republican administration. In addition we have had two costly wars in the Middle East under Republican administrations.

    The region was far more stable under the Clinton administration. The diplomacy of boors doesn’t work.

  41. “ Classical Liberals believe in private property, free markets, economic competition, freedom from coercion, limited government and individual rights. Classical liberals don’t believe in “wealth distribution” either. “

    “ Todays liberals are whiny bastards who want to take from the working to give to themselves. They hate free markets because that means someone always has a chance of doing better than them. They love governmental “coercion” such as hate crimes and hate speech because it forces people who would otherwise tell liberals and their cronies where to shove it to shut up. They dream of a huge government, where “big daddy” takes care of them by sucking the life blood from those who work. Eventually, those that work will get tired of working just to support parasitic liberals and quit working. Then “big daddy” will collapse or create a slave class to do the work the worker bees were doing before they quit. Liberals believe in rights only for themselves and no one else. In short, liberals are the most selfish creatures on the planet and if we’d stop keeping them alive thru social programs they’d eventually die and go away. Evolution at it’s finest …. survival of the fittest. Stop feeding liberals. “

    Commentby howcanyoubePROUDtobeaKennedyandanASS […………………………..Just an outstanding post. Thank you, JCH Kennedy]

  42. “Okay, drunken driving, philandering and self-profiteering regularly appear to be the sins of choice of Republicans.”

    Commentby So Many Republican Hypocrites So Little Time […………………………………………………………………..Uncle “Oldsmobile” Teddy and I seem to disagree!!!!! hehe, JCH]

  43. BUSH CANT EVEN STOP THE PENTAGON FROM SELLING
    DISCOUNTED EQUIPMENT TO POTENTIAL TERRORISTS

    BUSH ADMINISTRATION CONTINUES TO BE A NATIONAL SECURITY THREAT

    Undercover government investigators purchased sensitive surplus military equipment such as launcher mounts for shoulder-fired missiles and guided missile radar test sets from a Defense Department contractor.

    Much of the equipment could be useful to terrorists, according to a draft report by the Government Accountability Office, the investigative arm of Congress.

    In June, two GAO investigators spent $1.1 million on such equipment. Their purchases included body armor inserts used by troops in Iraq and Afghanistan, an all-band antenna used to track aircraft, and a digital signal converter used in naval surveillance.
    ”
    The body armor could be used by terrorists or other criminal activity,” noted the report, obtained Friday by The Associated Press.

    “Many of the other military items have weapons applications that would also be useful to terrorists.”

    Thousands of items that should have been destroyed were sold to the public, the report said. Much of the equipment was sold for pennies on the dollar.

    The list included circuit cards used in computerized Navy systems, a cesium technology timing unit with global positioning capabilities, and 12 digital microcircuits used in F-14 Tomcat fighter aircraft.
    At least 2,669 sensitive military items were sold to 79 buyers in 216 sales transactions from November 2005 to June 2006.

    “Department of No Defense has not enforced security controls for preventing sensitive excess military equipment from release to the public,” the report concluded.

    Republican Christopher Shays R-Conn., chairman of the House Government Reform Committee’s national no security panel, will hold a hearing.

    Lax security controls over sensitive excess military equipment.
    “During previous hearings we learned DEPARTMENT OF NO DEFENSE was a bargain basement for would-be terrorists due to lax security screening of excess military equipment,” Shays said in a statement Friday.

    “Based on GAO’s most recent undercover investigation it looks like the store is still open.”

    The GAO findings reported by ABC News and CBS News.

    STOP YOUR WHINING PROUD TO BE SUPPORTING REPUBLICAN LIARS :) YOU ALL DO THE SAME HYPOCRITICAL THING SEE HOW IT FEELS :)

  44. I hesitate to ask this, but what was the cause of the Gregoire dip in June? The group that was most disapproving on her was men, but why were the guys (except the ones who always hate her) miffed with her during that sampling?

  45. 50.

    Well, at least they didn’t find out they were being sold out of the White House basement this time.

  48. Did I mention how happy I was that the fucking hypocrite West is dead?

    Now if only proudass and his ilk would die, the world would be a better place!

  50. Next year will be 46% – 38% for Gregoire. We will still all be reeling from the property tax increase to 3% a year. Another tax on tobacco and alcohol and whatever other sinful food or drink that our legislature thinks they can steal from us……

    Where oh where is the equality? I want a latte tax of at least 60 cents a damn cup. Pissed at the Sonics – pass a tax on Starbucks! You can tell everyone “It’s for the Kids.”

  51. Sinking to their level is EXACTLY what is required and EXACTLY why we aren’t in power. We’ve tried doing it right. We’ve tried doing it fairly. We’ve tried taking the high road and look where it’s gotten us? How many dead in Iraq? How many dead in New Orleans? The people on the left that don’t understand we’re at war with the right are the people who are at least partly to blame for the mess we’re in.

  52. How many dead in New Orleans?

    Commentby LeftTurn [……….Well, At least they can still vote Democrat!!! hehe, JCH]

  53. 58.Left Turn, ..”How many dead in New Orleans?”………………………………………………………………Well, do you blame the Mayor [Black Democrat “School Bus Nagin” or the Democrat “Guvnor” “How Do I Look?” Landreau? Mississippi took the same hit and their REPUBLICAN Governor did quite well!

  54. LeftTurn @58:

    Your frustration makes sense to me. At the same time, I don’t see how we can out-fascist the fascists . . . at least without becoming all but indistinguishable from them.

    Unchanneled anger is not a sustainable basis for a political movement. it may be a good catalyst, but it can run aground rather quickly (e.g., look at the French revolution).

    So Jim West just died. He is an archetypal example of how a repressed personality can be harmful when assuming power. At the same time, West was not the devil; it some important respects he proved to be a capable mayor of Spokane during a difficult time. And, like all of us, he was a mere mortal, loaded with contradictions and personal failings.

    We on the “left” can have empathy for his struggles as a human being without in any way condoning those behaviors that violate our principles.

  55. Okay, drunken driving, philandering and self-profiteering regularly appear to be the sins of choice of Republicans.

    Oh Dems do some of that too, but Republicans really seem to have a self-righteous thirst for the activity, especially the drinking and driving part. Just look at George W. Bush.

    So maybe it shouldn’t have been a surprise that Coors beer baron and big financier of radical right wing causes just lost his license for driving while inebriated.

    No one would really care, except Republicans like Coors rub their alleged “moral virtue” in everyone’s face, so when they are revealed to have feet of clay, their image tumbles into a deep stein of hypocrisy.

    LIAR! LIAR! Ted “Hic” Kennedy killed me! I was drowning and all he could do was consult the lawyers about how to spin the story. YOU DEMOCRATS ARE MURDERS! Ten Kennedy is STILL elected over and over by evil DemonCrats. You people are evil!.

  56. Sinking to their level is EXACTLY what is required and EXACTLY why we aren’t in power. We’ve tried doing it right. We’ve tried doing it fairly. We’ve tried taking the high road and look where it’s gotten us? How many dead in Iraq? How many dead in New Orleans? The people on the left that don’t understand we’re at war with the right are the people who are at least partly to blame for the mess we’re in.

    Tried doing it right? Tried doing it fairly? Ha ha ha ha.

    Democrats are so crooked they make the mafia seem down right principled.

  58. 61.

    Sure, I can empathize with Jim West, but our political opponents take advantage of what they see as a sign of weakness, so I don’t. We don’t seem to know how to forgive the sinner, but get his ass out of office, too.

    David Drier is a high ranking Republican in Congress, and because of his homsexuality some of his Republican colleagues won’t shake his hand. I think a Democratic challenger should figure out a way to use that personal detail to their advantage.

    But, we lefties would likely abandon such a candidate, rather than back him to win. While Drier hypocritically backs Republican efforts to vilify homosexuals as a sop to the base, Democrats wimp out at the prospect of outing the hypocrite.

  59. Republican train wreck #894,333,142,245

    http://articles.news.aol.com/n.....0000000001

    Is there ONE republican who’s not a crook? One?

    And now, for “the rest of the story”. From your link:

    “She kept her job as Nevada’s top finance official, but her misconduct cost her the support of many colleagues and the state Republican Party. Still, she seemed to be in good spirits and was even campaigning for another office.”

    Unlike Democrats, who stick close to their crooks such as Bill Clinton, once they come to light and are found guilty, Republicans that do such things are shunned by other Republicans. With Democrats such as Ted Kennedy and Bill Clinton, they can’t seem to get enough of them, even AFTER their crimes have been made public.

    We will always have crooks in both parties. The telling thing is what each party does once it has been shown they are indeed crooks. Democrat embrace, Republicans rebuke.

  60. Rush Limbaugh @ 66

    Why is it that wingnuts cannot tell the difference between personal failings and criminal acts related to your office:

    Augustine was impeached and convicted in late 2004 for using state equipment on her 2002 campaign.

    There is a difference between getting a blow job and outing a CIA officer because you do not like what her husband is saying. One is shameful, but has nothing to do with their office, the other is an abuse of power.

  61. Well, Jim West missed his chance for Republican Rehab. There’s still time for some of our more brain dead trolls. I must know half-a-dozen “recovering republicans”.

  63. Negroponte Blocks CIA Analysis of Iraq “Civil War”

    Posted on Friday, July 21, 2006. By Ken Silverstein.

    Each day in June 100 Iraqi civilians were killed. CIA analysts, along with a number of Iraq analysts, have been pushing to produce an updated National Intelligence Estimate report.

    CIA agents have been stonewalled by John Negroponte, Butch administration’s Director of National Intelligence, who knows that any honest accurate assessment of Iraq would create problems not only for the Butch Adminisitration but with the public as well.

    “The analysts know that Iraq is in civil war, but there’s a feeling at the top that using the term “civil war” will complicate matters.” Negroponte, said another source regarding the potential impact of a pessimistic assessment, “doesn’t want the president to have to deal with that.” :( Poor pet goat reader.

    The sources said that forces at the CIA have been lobbying for the new NIE for about six months. The report is overdue, but there’s concern that if the Democrats win control of at least one chamber of Congress this November, the agency is going to get hammered for not having produced an NIE for so long.

    A former CIA officer who served in Iraq, stated blocking the NIE report jibed with past practice. “The NIE is a crucial document . . . that tells you how to tweak your policy,” he said.

    “That’s hard to do if you don’t want to look at it.” He said he had two recent conversations with people in Iraq, one an official at the Ministry of Interior who told him that as of two days ago there were 1,600 bodies piled up at the central morgue in Baghdad.

    The second conversation, he said, was with an Iraqi general officer who told him, “I never thought I would see my capital like this. It’s on fire.”

    “[The Bush administration] can call it whatever they want,” said the former CIA officer. “There’s a civil war going on in Iraq.”

    Bush Administration enables “The Denier” of Fact While Perusing Pet Goat Readers

  64. Bill Frist, who is as craven a politician as any Republican, and although a so-called physician, so ignorant as to believe that AIDS is transmissable through tears and sweat, has chosen to support stem-cell research. Been lookin’ at some polls, Bill, hmmmn?

  65. RE: Jim West….we liberals/progressives/Democrats/decent human beings don’t wish death on our rivals. Merely insignificance.

  66. Harry @ 61:

    Sure. I don’t mean to suggest that we wimp out during election season. I just doesn’t seem like a good idea to “otherize” wingers to the point of wishing them dead.

    For one thing, it ain’t gonna happen, and as long as we have a democracy we will have to learn to deal with them. For another thing, I don’t see how we can call ourselves humanists (or be against the death penalty) if we wish harm upon people with whom we disagree.

    Then there’s the issue of looking weak. To whom? Do I care if MTR thinks that? No. He’s a sociopathic fascist who thinks we should kill all of the muslims. What matters is the broad center of the electorate. In most situations a little bit of empathy can go a long way with these folks, particularly here in Washington. Even nationally, Bush did better than expected in the 2000 election because he succeeded in convincing middle America that he was a “compassionate conservative.” Once that image eroded so did his support.

    Whatever else one can say about Bill Clinton, he managed to worm his way out of numerous political crises because he didn’t “hate.” That strikes me as a helpful model for a post-Bush II era. The electorate doesn’t want the ideological flip side to GW Bush — they want a compassionate, steady hand at the head of government. Someone who can help cool tempers and get back to doing the public’s business.

  67. Smeg, “Where oh where is the equality? I want a latte tax of at least 60 cents a damn cup. Pissed at the Sonics – pass a tax on Starbucks! You can tell everyone “It’s for the Kids.”

    You confuse me . . . I agree with you. I though conservatives were all about inequality?

  68. Green Thumb:
    I work in state government, and what I keep hearing from the long-timers is that Gregoire has been unusually “activist” in initiating internal reforms. Some of those reforms have pissed off complacent agencies, but they do generally make government work better for citizens. So I can see how the electorate may never feel all warm and fuzzy toward Gregoire, but may come to respect her stewardship.

    Whatever else you can say about her, she works very hard, she has an intricate grasp of how state government works, she places high expectations on state workers, and for a Democrat she has placed an unusual emphasis on improving government efficiency.”

    Just had to repost. Gregoire is savvy, efficient, smart, and assertive. In my mind, she is a lot like Dan Evans. She’s no Gary Locke who tried to please everybody. She thinks for herself. She’s a doer rather than a talker.

    Those of you stuck in your conservative “faith” will never free yourselves from the choke-hold of your conservative bible and rhetoric. Like noisy miniature dogs, you will be forever yapping at the heels of those who feed you.

  69. 6

    “The outcome was a close as it was because the difference between her and Rossi wasn’t clear.”

    No, the outcome was close for three reasons:

    (1) Gregoire didn’t campaign aggressively for the black vote;
    (2) The Libertarian candidate siphoned off tens of thousands of gay votes; and
    (3) Crooked voting machines in Snohomish County converted hundreds, if not thousands, of Gregoire votes into rossi votes.

  70. Oh great, JCH has been hitting the bottle again. Must have had a hard night playing “Sailor.”

    Commentby JDB— 7/22/06@ 11:24 am

    JDB, US Navy Vets don’t need to “play sailor”. Why not tell us about YOUR military service! hehe, JCH

  71. 7

    How many poor kids will you kick off Medicaid to pay for your “sales tax holiday,” Ass? No wonder you’re an ass.

  73. I would concur with Skagit who sez:” Gregoire is savvy, efficient, smart, and assertive. In my mind, she is a lot like Dan Evans. She’s no Gary Locke who tried to please everybody. She thinks for herself. She’s a doer rather than a talker.”
    I would add that she has a strong personal moral compass
    and roots that go deep into a work ethic founded on a working-class beginning. She has gotten where she is through hard work and outstanding merit. No country club gal this one.

  74. 7

    We don’t need a sales tax holiday, we need a new state tax system. How do you justify a tax system that charges the poorest 20% of households over 17% of their income for state and local taxes, while charging the richest 20% only 4%?

    Yesterday Libertarian said “never, never, never” to a state income tax; today ASS says we should take a “sales tax holiday.” All last summer, the trolls told us they’d rather gave an extra 5 cents a gallon to the oil companies than pay for roads. The Republican “intellectuals” are in full flower in Washington.

  75. 7

    Hey, I don’t like paying taxes either! Go talk to Bush about it. He has slashed federal funding for Medicaid, education, and cops while dumping unfunded homeland security mandates on states and cities so he can squander a trillion dollars on a recreational war.

  77. 14

    The really great thing about America is, if you don’t like where you live, you can bitch and moan about it instead of moving to antoher state.

  79. Roger, it appears that the Chimpster’s war is a bit more sinister than recreational. The IDF is quite discomfitted that their airstrikes are not getting the job done against Hizbollah. They have also expressed surprise at Hizbollah’s mastery of anti-tank weapons, mortars, and platoon assault tactics. Could it be that we are training Shiite militias (inadvertantly of course) in Iraq?

  82. Rabbit – Taxes are too fucking high. Period. End of story. I vote against all tax increases regardless of the “good” that is claimed, and I vote for all tax cuts regardless of the horrors that are promised.

    The notion of progressive taxes is consistent with you socialist nazi democrats. How ’bout a flat tax where everybody pays something, with a cap that says nobody’s tax burden can exceed a certain dollar amount.

  83. 70.

    All three of the things you mention could have been overcome with a vigorous campaign. If people thought that Rossi was a reasonable candidate, that was the fault of the Gregoire campaign.

    Whatever happened in Snohomish County could have been overcome by Christine getting in the mid-60s in King County, instead of the the high fifties.

    If people would vote for Kerry or Murray, I don’t buy that the third party siphoned off the difference.

  84. 17

    “They ARE Islamofacists…what is it with you cowardly libs so afraid to call a spade a damend spade?”

    Who are you referring to, ASS? The guys who attacked us on 9/ll, or the guys we’re fighting in Iraq?

    If a foreign army invaded my country, razed my villages, and killed my women and children — I’d try to throw them out too.

    “The vast majority of Muslims do not want peace with Israel under any circumstances (unless all the Jews either leave, die or convert to Islam).”

    I suspect they’d settle for being able to make a living in a country they can call their own under a government they chose, but that’s hard to do when Israelis take 90% of the water and cropland, settle Palestinian land, and station troops in Palestinian villages.

    As for whether Palestinians will ever accept peace terms that consign them to permanent poverty and subjugation, I think you’re right — as long as those are Israel’s peace terms, the Palestinians will fight forever.

    The rest is just a smokescreen, and you’re playing along, apparently because you hate our president and any Republican so much.

    Commentby howcanyoubePROUDtobeaKennedyandanASS— 7/22/06@ 10:04 am

  85. Skag and thumb – Efficiency in gummint as a result of Gregoire’s “leadership”. Really? Do tell… in the real world of business, efficiency results in fewer people doing more with less. So I assume we’ll be seeing layoffs and tax cuts as a result of all this efficiency?

    Didn’t think so…

  86. “The rest is just a smokescreen, and you’re playing along, apparently because you hate our president and any Republican so much.”

    Although there’s plenty there to hate, we don’t “hate” you guys — we’re just defending ourselves against people who say they want to kill us.

  88. The region was far more stable under the Clinton administration. The diplomacy of boors doesn’t work. -Commentby Harry Tuttle— 7/22/06@ 11:34 am

    Fool me once, shame on you, twice, shame on me. But three times?

    Who gave China nukes? democrat pop star Bill Clinton.

    Who gave North Korea nukes? China and democrat pop star Bill Clinton.

    Who hosted a world recognized terrorists at the White House and Camp David on numerous occasions? democrat pop star Bill Clinton.

    Who insisted we should just give Iran nukes? democrat national traitor whose only claim to fame is his ability to turn on fellow soldiers and marry wealth, John Kerry.

    Who can’t tell the difference between real terrorists and American soldiers? democrats.

    Who doesn’t realize that the war against international terrorism is much broader than Bin Laden or Afghanistan? democrats!

    PROOF?…
    The people on the left that don’t understand we’re at war with the right are the people who are at least partly to blame for the mess we’re in. -Commentby LeftTurn— 7/22/06@ 12:42 pm

    Assholes who want to fight fellow Americans instead of
    terrorists are the problem. Thanks for proving your total inanity NoLeftbrainandWishingHeHadEvenOneWorkingNut!

    NoLeftbrainandWishingHeHadEvenOneWorkingNut, you’re still a staggering imbecile, and I still admire your consistency on that front.

    ***

    How many poor kids will you kick off Medicaid to pay for your “sales tax holiday,” Ass? No wonder you’re an ass. -Commentby Roger Rabbit— 7/22/06@ 2:34 pm

    Dumb bunny you prove you are economically STUPID.

    How many poor kids will you kick off Medicaid to pay for your “sales tax holiday,” Ass? No wonder you’re an ass.

    Commentby Roger Rabbit— 7/22/06@ 2:34 pm

    You do understand don’t you, that the tax holiday is for SCHOOL CLOTHES and SCHOOL SUPPLIES?

    You do grasp don’t you the the users of said SCHOOL CLOTHES and SCHOOL SUPPLIES hare, pay attention now…CHILDREN?

    You liberals constantly whine you don’t want a national sales tax because it would be an unfair boo-flipping-hoo burden on the poor, yet you quickly scorn giving them a modicum of relief to send their kids back to school dressed well and prepared to study.

    Typical liberal bullshit. Typical liberal bullshit wanting to keep the poor downtrodden and used for political gain.

  89. No, hating people who want to kill you is a waste of valuable energy that is far better used figuring out how to defeat them.

  90. Dear Moron, you defeat them by KILLING THEM, BEFORE THEY KILL YOU.

  91. 80

    Oh, I don’t think the Israelis are surprised. They obviously planned for a ground invasion all along. And Hezbollah had years of practice under their belts before we came along. It’s really not that hard to blow up Americans, as 2,500+ flag-draped coffins attest. The Israelis are tougher than we are.

  93. “Whatever power the United States Constitution envisions for the Executive in its exchanges with other nations or with enemy organizations in times of conflict, it most assuredly envisions a role for all three branches when individual liberties are at stake.” Hamdi Vs. Rumsfeld

  94. The Mideast is a cowboys-and-Indians deal. The Palestinians are a displaced people whom the dominant culture wants to consign to reservations and use as a source of cheap labor. They’re fighting a power armed with jet fighters, tanks, and nuclear bombs with AK-47s and suicide bombs. They should’ve been defeated long ago, but the implacable Israeli occupation keeps them going.

  95. But the Palestinians sure have made it hard to like them, or sympathize with their cause.

  96. So, we have too unloved and unlovable antagonists fighting over the same land and water … maybe everybody else should stay out of it and let ’em go at it to their hearts’ content.

  98. 18

    No, you guys WANT to fight, or more accurately you want to pick fights and make other people’s children do the fighting. When there’s no real enemy to fight, you make up enemies. There’s a commie hiding under every Republican bed.

  99. What kind of psychosis are you prattling about now, Jackass? Our good buddies the Paki’s were the conduit for nuclear weapons information to N. Korea.
    The Rosenberg’s paid with their lives for the transfer of nuclear weapons information to the Stalinist Soviet Union under the Eisenhower Administration That same information was freely shared with the Chinese Communists, who tested their first nuclear and thermonuclear weapons in the 1960’s.

  100. 19

    What is it about GOP candidate recruitment that attracts porn stars? Is it the graft? Unbridled power? Veneer of phony respectability? Or do they just like sex?

  102. 20

    This isn’t about ideology. It’s about Israeli hogging 90% of the arable land and 90% of the water, and leaving Palestinians nothing to live on.

  103. 20

    Very similar to what we have in our country, where 5% of the people want to hog 90% of the income and wealth — and make the other 95% pay all the taxes while they enjoy all the nation’s fruits and pay none of its bills.

  105. 20

    Which makes you wonder whether (or when) push will come to shove here. LIBERALS MUST ARM!

  106. No wonder we have a light-weights like Condi Rice practicing ‘Air-Guitar’ Diplomacy . .or is that Air Head Diplomacy?

  107. 22

    “Isn’t it interesting… 20 years ago WA was a terrific place to live… then the liberals Californicated it looking for a cheaper place to live and relief from their self-imposed tax misery.”

    Is this what explains the massive out-migration from Washington to California? Yes, I see Washington has been losing population for some time now. They’re tearing down houses in my neighborhood to create open space where there used to be row houses. Every day WSDOT crews are out there ripping up the pavement of no-longer-needed freeways. Yes, Washington has become so unpopular a place to live, it’s being depopulated! It must be the taxes … it couldn’t be anything else.

    The foregoing is the kaleidoscopic fantasy world ASS sees when he sticks his head up his ASS.

  108. No, hating people who want to kill you is a waste of valuable energy that is far better used figuring out how to defeat them. Commentby Roger Rabbit— 7/22/06@ 3:02 pm

    The LIBERAL BULLSHIT METER is off the charts!

    This should be right up your alley bunny boy:

    The law of the jungle
    Survival of the fittest.
    Kill or be killed

    Isn’t that what you big bad bunnies and liberal evolutionary, revolutionary snots support?

  109. Is this what explains the massive out-migration from Washington to California? Yes, I see Washington has been losing population for some time now. They’re tearing down houses in my neighborhood to create open space where there used to be row houses. Every day WSDOT crews are out there ripping up the pavement of no-longer-needed freeways. Yes, Washington has become so unpopular a place to live, it’s being depopulated! It must be the taxes … it couldn’t be anything else.
    -Commentby Roger Rabbit— 7/22/06@ 3:20 pm

    Um, no dumb bunny – sane people are all leaving this formerly-great-now-2nd-rate state because of the insane government caused by and catering to the influx of the liberal Californicators… take a look at Seattle same time: SanFran redux.

  110. Jackass has the same uninformed view of the world
    and its history as the idiots, neocons, and theocons who lied us into the quagmire of Iraq.
    Jackass I can see why someone like Rossi might look good to you, He MAY ACTUALLY BE SMARTER THAN YOU ARE!

  111. Yes, I saw in the news this morning that Jim West kicked the bucket … along with Ken Lay and that GOP chick down in Nevada. Anybody see a pattern here? Apparently healthy Republicans suddenly drop dead of heart attacks in their 50s?

    Maybe that’s how Rove disposes of their no-longer-useful cyborgs.

  112. I wanna know some more of your phantasies about the world Jackass?
    Any more wingnut delusions you want to share?

  113. Remember the fantasies that wingers circulated about “Clinton murders?” Well, this certainly appears to be real. Liberals, of course, don’t like to kill people; but with Republicans it’s different, they have blood lust, and “murder” is their middle name. Forget the Clinton conspiracy theories; we have a real murder mystery on our hands.

    Republicans killing Republicans … ya gotta love it!!! :D :D :D

  114. Oh, that’s right, Jackass wasn’t educated at a charter school He was INDOCTRINATED,/em>!

  115. Yes, I saw in the news this morning that Jim West kicked the bucket … along with Ken Lay and that GOP chick down in Nevada. Anybody see a pattern here? Apparently healthy Republicans suddenly drop dead of heart attacks in their 50s? -Commentby Roger Rabbit— 7/22/06@ 3:24 pm

    Only the good die young… which is why we’re still saddled with the ever addled pnut farmer, the hitlary-I’m-a-one-woman-communist-government-bitch, her slurpee in chief, KKK-byrd and TeddytheSot.

  116. In other news, I see the state pharmacy board is backpedaling away from it’s “refuse and refer” policy.

    As I’ve said before, practicing pharmacy is a voluntary activity, and no one is forced to fill a prescription s/he believes is against her/his religious or moral scruples — there’s lots of other occupations.

  117. Give it up, Jackass. They apparently can reprogram your cyborg brain but not so for the majority of Americans.

  118. Sheesh:”Who gave China nukes? democrat pop star Bill Clinton.: ProudJackass.
    Whooee. What a Whopper. Haven’t laughed that hard in ages. You owe me a keyboard. . .sprayed pepsi all over!

  119. I vote FOR abortion…

    Let’s abort Noam Chomsky, Michael Moore and Pete Singer. too bad we missed Madeline Murray O’Hare and Margaret Sanger… especially Margaret!

  121. Roger, it’s that sort of delusional posts by ProudAss that put him into the running against MTR in the NATIONAL DUMB-OFF.

  122. Got a news-flash for ya, good buddy,ProudAss. Clinton wasn’t out of college when China detonated their first nukes. Got anymore howlers? I need another laugh.

  123. Got another thought for ya, ProudAss: It’s called the First Law of Holes. Check it out with yer partner in folie a deux MTR.

  124. How’s that river you live on sweetcheeks?

    What do they call it??

    Oh yes DENIAL…

    “ In a separate development, Reuters reports that Loral Space & Communications Ltd, under investigation since 1997 for leaking sensitive missile technology to China, reached a settlement with the U.S. government that could let it resume long-delayed satellite exports to China. Loral agreed to pay a civil fine of $14 million… “

    “ The Loral case began as a criminal investigation amid charges that the company might have improperly helped China boost the reliability of its Long March rockets after a Long March missile carrying a Loral satellite crashed in 1996. A US House of Representatives panel concluded that China had used launches of U.S.-built satellites to steal data that could be used to fine-tune Red Army missile-firing capabilities – including developing MIRV capabilities. “

    The case against Loral, which originated in 1997 with a Pentagon finding that Loral and Hughes Electronics had improperly turned over technical information to the Chinese, was settled in January 2002. Loral, without admitting or denying that it had violated the law, agreed to pay a $20 million penalty, the largest settlement of a technology transfer case at the time.

    The government accused Loral of providing Chinese officials with confidential materials from an American panel that investigated the February 1996 crash of a Loral satellite, which was built for Intelsat, the international consortium, and was launched by a Chinese Long March rocket.

    “I can tell you that the decisions we made, we made because we thought they were in the interests of the American people,”—Bill Clinton, on being asked why he signed waivers, against the Pentagon’s protest, to sell Loral missile guidance systems technology to Communist China, enabling China for the first time to launch nuclear weapons.
    (May 18, 1998 edition of the Washington Times, front page)

  125. Got another thought for ya, ProudAss:
    Commentby killatroll/saveablog— 7/22/06@ 3:43 pm

    You’d actually have to have a FIRST THOUGHT to ever have another, sweetcheeks.

  126. Aw. Our little psychotic,ill-informed wingnut troll is in a snit because he has revealed his ignorance and mentall illness in the great wide world for all to see.

  128. oh oh oh you wound me!

    LMAO

    …um, little bullshit maker… shouldn’t you be out aerating your compost pile? You’ve contributes so much to it lately.

  129. Roger, you know that the Gates’ are NOT paying 4% of their income in state and local taxes. It is doubtful that they even pay 1% of their yearly taxable income in state and local taxes.

  130. The concept that you take yourself seriously, after asserting that Bill Clinto GAVE NUKES TO CHINA is too hilarious for words. You must be sharing the same needle with JCH to have that level of brain damage.

  131. Wingnuts are Wingnuts. . . but you are WORLD CLASS!. I’d say that they should ‘up the dosage of your meds’ but there has to be some central nervous system left on which to act.

  132. poor little stupid NoLeftbrainandWishingHeHadEvenOneWorkingNut/BUSH ABOVE THE LAW WHILE HE BREAKS THE LAWS/killatroll/saveablog … he excels at only one thing: being a embecile… but he does it so well and so very consistantly

    Wednesday October 1, 2003

    “ Newly declassified documents show that President Bill Clinton personally approved the transfer to China of advanced space technology that can be used for nuclear combat. “

    “ The documents show that in 1996 Clinton approved the export of radiation hardened chip sets to China. The specialized chips are necessary for fighting a nuclear war. “

    “ “Waivers may be granted upon a national interest determination,” states a Commerce Department document titled “U.S. Sanctions on China.” “

    “ “The President has approved a series of satellite related waivers in recent months, most recently in November, 1996 for export of radiation hardened chip sets for a Chinese meteorological satellite,” noted the Commerce Department documents. “

    “ These special computer chips are designed to function while being bombarded by intense radiation. Radiation hardened chips are considered critical for atomic warfare and are required by advanced nuclear tipped missiles. “

    “ “If it was indeed intended for a new PRC weather satellite, then it is possible that it was used for their new polar orbit weather satellites. This is significant because the Chinese themselves acknowledge that their polar orbit weather satellites directly contribute to their long-range missile targeting capability. This becomes even more important for their new smaller but more accurate warheads, used on their new DF-31, DF-31A, DF-5 Mod2 and JL-2 missiles. If they encounter significant weather, warhead accuracy degrades, reducing their utility,” stated Fisher. “

    “ “Inasmuch as similar U.S. military weather satellites perform the same missions, the Clinton Administration had to have known they were assisting a PLA strategic military capability,” concluded Fisher. “

    “ In addition, the Chinese military is clearly interested in acquiring advanced radiation hardened computer chips for its strategic nuclear arsenal. “

    “ Another critical element of the Clinton-supplied waiver is the fact that it took place during an investigation of Chinese espionage into missing U.S. radiation hardened satellite chips. “

    “ In February 1996, a Chinese Long March rocket carrying a Loral Intelsat satellite failed and crashed on lift-off. The Loral Intelsat payload was badly damaged. The Chinese intended to launch the Loral satellite into deep space as they had been paid to do by Loral CEO Bernard Schwartz. “

    “ However, fate took a twisted path, and so did the Chinese rocket. The Long March rocket failed on launch and crashed into a nearby Chinese village, killing over 200 innocent civilians. The failure of the Long March allowed the U.S. to recover the sealed satellite guidance box, which revealed the control board of radiation-hardened chips was missing. “

    “ The missing board from the Loral Intelsat satellite is no mystery. It quickly became obvious that Chinese engineers removed the special electronics and kept the board for examination. The stolen Loral electronics consist of radiation hardened, encrypted telemetry chips, stored in a secure flight control box similar to those found on airliners. The NSA changed all U.S. satellite codes as a result of the stolen Loral chips, costing American taxpayers millions of dollars. “

  133. Mark The Redneck’s Moonbat Poll:

    It is hot in FUWA today. This is because:

    1) There is a large high pressure area over us allowing THE FUCKING SUN to heat up the region.

    2) I drove my luxury SUV today.

  134. ProudAss @ 120: “I vote FOR abortion… Let’s abort Noam Chomsky, Michael Moore and Pete Singer. too bad we missed Madeline Murray O’Hare and Margaret Sanger… especially Margaret!”

    So Proud, did I miss something or were you against abortion? If yes, I take it that you are proposing a carve out for fetuses that show signs of not being conservative. Interesting idea!

    A friendly amendment, though. If you didn’t want to mistakenly abort innocent conservatives it would seem better to let all babies live for a few years until their ideological predilections became apparent, and then kill off the “liberals.” Perhaps you could create summer “education camps,” and those not passing your conservative litmus tests could be sent off to the “showers.”

    I would think that Rufus and MTR would have some good ideas here about privatizing this important social function. Public schools clearly couldn’t pull this off, but surely Bechtel or Halliburton could. Maybe MTR’s engineering firm could design these education camps. He seems to have put some quality time into how to kill large numbers of people!

  135. Ive decided to become a relativist like you liberals… so in light of that I’ve chosen those that need aborting.

    You can add Mumia Abu whatever-his-name-is to the list.

  136. I’m sorry, I misunderstood you, Proud. You seem to be proposing that we “abort” adults.

    What system did you have in mind for deciding who to exterminate? Did you want to bring back the Star Chamber? Or were you thinking that folks would be “disappeared” in the middle of the night?

    Or did you prefer a more preventative approach, e.g., by adding a new test requirement to the Leave No Child Behind law. Which year did you want to institute a test determines the ideological predilections of all K-12 students?

    This is really innovative social policy, so I hope you will further enlighten us as to your plan.

  137. If the Republicans hold the House and Senate in 06, will you lib Democrat commies kill yourselves?

    Commentby REP Pat Kennedy [D-Bitchslap the Black Security Guard At LAX]— 7/22/06@ 6:13 pm

    Roger, you know that the Gates’ are NOT paying 4% of their income in state and local taxes. It is doubtful that they even pay 1% of their yearly taxable income in state and local taxes.

    Commentby sgmmac […………………………………………………………………………Kind of like the Kerrys who pay Federal taxes at the 12% MTR? hehe. JCH]

  138. JERUSALEM – Roy Bass emerged from the Mediterranean waves at noon Friday for a Popsicle break when, surfboard in hand, he heard his cell phone ringing on the beach. It was a recorded message: “An emergency draft has been activated.”

    You’ve gotta respect this (among many things) about the Israelis. They’re all-in. And they don’t apologize for defending their country. Can you imagine Goldy or Green Thumb or Left Turn EVER accepting such a responsiblity. NO!!! They bitch, complain, and go to private Ivy schools, but NEVER serve in uniform. That’s a Hell of difference from the Isreal citizens. They are men…………the liberal commies on this board are pussy boys.

  139. This isn’t about ideology. It’s about Israeli hogging 90% of the arable land and 90% of the water, and leaving Palestinians nothing to live on.

    Commentby Roger Rabbit— 7/22/06@ 3:16 pm

    Roger the Indians met the same fate and now it is the Palestinians turn to lose everything. Roger there is a light at the end of the tunnel for lawyers. The folks who lose the war gets only what’s left over after the Vultures. Now the Rebels in the South had to deal with the carpet baggers after the Civil War, but the Palestinians will have to deal with the United Nations. That crowed will be suck the blood out of their new born children for many years kind of like the tax man here in Washington state. Roger you can invite the Palestinians to move into Green Lake so they can live the great life of a Rabbit living in a hole.

  140. This isn’t about ideology. It’s about Israeli hogging 90% of the arable land and 90% of the water, and leaving Palestinians nothing to live on.

    Commentby Roger Rabbit […………………………………………………………..Er, RR, the Muslims are “hogging” 99% of the land and oil, kidnapping Isreal military men, and firing rockets into civilian cities and towns. BTW, American Jews [ex Goldystein] will watch and vote in November 06.]

  141. Hey Mark I here your pot belly pig girl friend oinking for you to come to bed and make some bacon

  142. HUMMERHUMPING MARK: “in the real world of business, efficiency results in fewer people doing more with less. ”

    And in CEOs doing less for more . . .

  143. hycbPROUDtbSTUPID at 116: “Only the good die young. . . ”

    You must be really, really old . . .

  144. 134 – The answer is

    3 – you have your head up your ass!

    Pay your FUCKING GAMBLING DEBT…

  145. I have always loves the idiocy and vacuity of the ” Bill Clinton GAVE NUKES TO CHINA” charge. For one thing, it’s the ultimate “look over there!” dodge for when the bush administration AGAIN a) ingores real Amercian problems to block stem cell research, or b) continues that their denial of the reality that American policy really does foment terrorism guarantees that we will continue to do so, or C) you name it.

    Here’s the story, from the dim past of 1997: Loral included some advanced chips on a black box on a satellite that the Chinese launched into orbit, only the launch failed and the black box was missing when the satellite was recovered (after the crash destroyed a village). During the recovery efforts, Loral inadvertantly (their claim) faxed some classified information to the Chinese, WITHOUT (I hasten to add) government approval. The Clinton Justice Department (unlike the Bush/Gonzales DoJ which is too busy keeping us safe from Earth First to investgate NSA domestic wiretapping) investigated and Loral paid a $14 million fine in a civil action. The waivers Clitnon granted Loral were to have their satellite launched in China. Sinister.

    In other news that DIDN’T happen in 1997, YESTERDAY the AP reported that: “Undercover government investigators purchased sensitive surplus military equipment such as launcher mounts for shoulder-fired missiles and guided missile radar test sets from a Defense Department contractor. Much of the equipment could be useful to terrorists, according to a draft report by the Government Accountability Office, the investigative arm of Congress. The list included circuit cards used in computerized Navy systems, a cesium technology timing unit with global positioning capabilities, and 12 digital microcircuits used in F-14 Tomcat fighter aircraft.
    At least 2,669 sensitive military items were sold to 79 buyers in 216 sales transactions from November 2005 to June 2006.    ”

    Gee, these sales are government regulated, correct? But the Bush administration is allowing defense contractors to hold bargain basement sales on sensitive military equipment to any and all comers? Hmmmm…Pud? JCH? outrage? *sound of crickets chirping*

  147. Gregoire is shaping up to be the best Governor our State has seen. She gets stuff done. She does it without fanfare. She is public when she needs to be and behind the scenes when she needs to be. She listens to the public and stakeholders. She crafts creative solutions. She doesn’t make decisions based on fear, instead, she does the right thing, even when its hard. I am, surprisingly, – impressed.

  148. @ 151:

    One, she didn’t get elected righfully or legitimately, and two, if you’re actually that naive, I suggest seeing a specialist.

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