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by Goldy — Tuesday, 6/13/06, 9:47 am

Apparently, prosecutors have told Karl Rove that he’s unlikely to be indicted. I suppose that could mean that he’s innocent of actually breaking a law. Or it could just mean that he’s a very, very good liar.

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  1. Thomas Trainwinder spews:

    Tuesday, 6/13/06 at 9:50 am

    Hey, righties, heads-up for key activist judge issue!

    In San Fran, activist judge overturned 58% voter approved gun ban!

    Can’t wait to hear Rush, Medved, etc. lash out against at the activist judges imposing their will against the will of the people!

    C’mon…let the judge have it!

  2. Richard Pope spews:

    Tuesday, 6/13/06 at 9:55 am

    California law expressly guarantees the right to keep and bear arms and invalidates local ordinances that conflict with state law. The judge in San Francisco was merely enforcing the express language of state law, as he or she was obligated to do so.

    If you want to complain about something, how about the federal judge who invalidated Initiative 297 in Washington, which was approved by over 69% of the voters in 2004?

  3. Thomas Trainwinder spews:

    Tuesday, 6/13/06 at 9:59 am

    Richard – you make my point.

    Repubs always claim the judges that rule in their favor are merely following the law. Those that disagree are activist judges.

    The hypocrisy and clarity of this position has never been more evident.

  4. howcanyoubePROUDtobeanASS spews:

    Tuesday, 6/13/06 at 10:11 am

    nice spin goldstein…way to play to your koolaid drinkers…

    Rove Won’t Be Charged in CIA Leak CaseTop White House aide Karl Rove has been told by prosecutors he won’t be charged with any crimes in the investigation into the leak of a CIA officer’s identity, his lawyer said Tuesday, lifting a heavy burden from one of President Bush’s most trusted advisers.

    See goldstein… there’s a world of inconvenient difference between “unlikely” and “WON’T”…. no merry fitzmas for the tinfoil D’RATS…. as we’ve always known.

  5. Richard Pope spews:

    Tuesday, 6/13/06 at 10:15 am

    Trainwinder @ 3

    There is a big difference between “finding” a right to gun ownership, when state statutes and state constitution expressly guarantee such a right in very clear and to the point language, and “finding” a right to same-sex marriage, when a state constitution says absolutely nothing about marriage or same-sex matters whatsoever and state statutes expressly require marriage to be for only opposite-sex couples.

  6. Tree Frog Farmer spews:

    Tuesday, 6/13/06 at 10:20 am

    Thomas@3 You are SO-O-O-O unfair to our wannabe politician, Mr. Po(o)pe. You expect clarity, reason, and understanding from him. . .qualities of which he is bereft.

  7. howcanyoubePROUDtobeanASS spews:

    Tuesday, 6/13/06 at 10:21 am

    So let’s see if we have this straight… Rove is still IN, but Sims puppydog, ass sniffer and all around personal liar is OUT

    Isn’t it a great day to be an American?

  8. Misty spews:

    Tuesday, 6/13/06 at 10:30 am

    Oriana Fallaci is on trial in Italy…for insulting Islam.

  9. Thomas Trainwinder spews:

    Tuesday, 6/13/06 at 10:47 am

    Richard @5:

    The only difference is your reading of the rights versus others.

    It still boils down to: if judges agree with you, they are correctly interpreting the law and/or consitution. If not, they are activist.

  10. BushWentAWOL spews:

    Tuesday, 6/13/06 at 10:58 am

    The fact that Rove MAY NOT BE CHARGED means…

    1) There is not enough evidence to convict him in a court of law.
    2) He still outed a CIA spy. The charges were only relating to lying.

    And what it DOES NOT MEAN:

    1) That Rove is not a guilty traitor.
    2) That America is any safer.

  11. howcanyoubePROUDtobeanASS spews:

    Tuesday, 6/13/06 at 11:06 am

    What is DOES mean is that the koolaid drinkers are wrong and lost… again… God, a second bad week for you fruit loops!… and Rove is free to engineer ANOTHER (see the “bell-weather” primaries last week) 2006 win.

  12. howcanyoubePROUDtobeanASS spews:

    Tuesday, 6/13/06 at 11:09 am

    Ah well, I’m going out to show my faith in the bubbling Bush economy by spending MY money… can I bring your fruit loops anything… hemlock perhaps? D’Rat poison?

  13. Roger Rabbit spews:

    Tuesday, 6/13/06 at 11:40 am

    5

    It’s easy to say that whether gays should have the right to marry is a question for legislatures to decide, and courts should not be legislating. But it’s not that simple. I agree that courts should not usurp the legislative branch’s functions — no argument there. But the judicial branch is the proper branch of government to protect citizens’ constitutional and legal rights, and the federal and state constitutions guarantee all of our citizens — among other things — equal protection of the laws. If a legislative-branch refusal or omission to grant the same marital rights to gays that heteros enjoy raises an equal protection issue, then it is indeed the province of the courts to deal with that issue; and if the courts determine that legislative policy denies gays equal protection of the laws, then it is very much within the jurisdiction of the courts to enforce gays’ constitutional rights. In other words, the courts have no business creating marriage legislation because they want to participate in making policy, but the courts have a duty to intervene when legislative policies violate the constitution.

  14. Roger Rabbit spews:

    Tuesday, 6/13/06 at 11:41 am

    I would like to add that the executive branch should not usurp the functions of the legislative and judicial branches, either. You know who I’m talking about.

  15. Roger Rabbit spews:

    Tuesday, 6/13/06 at 11:42 am

    So Richard, how come you haven’t posted anything about the vast expansion of presidential powers the currrent administration is arrogating to itself? Did that just fly over your head?

  16. Roger Rabbit spews:

    Tuesday, 6/13/06 at 11:48 am

    6

    “wannabe politician, Mr. Po(o)pe”

    TFF, you misunderestimate Mr. Pope. As I’ve explained previously on this board, Mr. Pope does NOT want to be elected to the positions he runs for. For him, the $5 filing fee for port commissioner is an advertising expense. He files for public offices because the Voters Pamphlet is taxpayer-subsidized advertising for his law practice.

    I’ve gotta hand it to Pope, it’s clever and perfectly legal. And it’s also

    F R E E L O A D I N G

    which is something Republicans like Pope are very, very good at.

  17. Particle Man spews:

    Tuesday, 6/13/06 at 11:52 am

    Goldy,
    “I suppose that could mean that he’s innocent of actually breaking a law. Or it could just mean that he’s a very, very good liar. ”
    Well, yes he is a good liar but that alone did not save him. What saved him is the administration clamping down on everyone involved to keep the lid on things in the name of patriotism, for the flag, for the team….

  18. Roger Rabbit spews:

    Tuesday, 6/13/06 at 11:53 am

    7

    “So let’s see if we have this straight… Rove is still IN, but Sims puppydog, ass sniffer and all around personal liar is OUT Isn’t it a great day to be an American?” Commentby howcanyoubePROUDtobeanASS— 6/13/06@ 10:21 am

    Nope, you don’t have it straight, so I’ve gotta straighten it out for you.

    Item 1 — Dean Logan has received a PROMOTION from running elections in the nation’s second-largest mail ballot county to running elections in the nation’s largest mail ballot county — a perfectly logical career progression for an executive with a demonstrated record of effectiveness and competence.

    Item 2 — Rove is OUT of his policy making role; as in: stripped of authority, relieved of duty, replaced. He has been DEMOTED to a political-adviser-only role.

    Item 3 — You omitted to mention that Sims is still IN as King County Executive. In fact, Sims is not only IN but his opponent, David Irons Jr., barely bested than cigaret smoke in the voters’ esteem.

  19. Roger Rabbit spews:

    Tuesday, 6/13/06 at 11:53 am

    Man, I’m having fun this morning kicking the shit out of the trolls! :D

  20. Roger Rabbit spews:

    Tuesday, 6/13/06 at 11:54 am

    C’mon, trolls, give me something HARD! This is too EASY! It’s getting BORING.

  21. Roger Rabbit spews:

    Tuesday, 6/13/06 at 11:56 am

    17

    Yep, it looks like the cover-up worked this time. The good guys win some, lose some. This time, Rove won and the American people lost.

  22. Roger Rabbit spews:

    Tuesday, 6/13/06 at 11:57 am

    And the righty traitors celebrate another defeat of American values.

  23. Roger Rabbit spews:

    Tuesday, 6/13/06 at 12:03 pm

    I see in today’s news that Rep. Patrick Kennedy (D-R.I.) pleaded guilty to DUI in connection with a D.C. car crash last month.

    Before the trolls pile onto this one (“Aha! Those Kennedys are driving drunk again!”), let me point out there is NO EVIDENCE that Kennedy was DRINKING; he pleaded guilty to driving while impaired by PRESCRIPTION DRUGS.

    This incident provides an opportunity to offer my fellow Washingtonians a timely reminder that DUI laws proscribe more than just drinking and driving — these laws cover driving that is impaired by ANY substance, including LEGAL drugs. It is NOT legal to drive if your LEGAL medications adversely affect your ability to safely operate a motor vehicle.

    You might run over a rabbit.

  24. Roger Rabbit spews:

    Tuesday, 6/13/06 at 12:06 pm

    I’m watching KING 5’s noon news, and they just said a KING 5 poll shows 78% of Seattle residents favor the Sonics leaving Seattle rather than funding a $200 million arena with public funds.

  25. Animal Control Officer spews:

    Tuesday, 6/13/06 at 12:08 pm

    My department will pay $75 to any of you Republican drunks who succeeds in running over that damned rabbit.

  26. Roger Rabbit spews:

    Tuesday, 6/13/06 at 12:09 pm

    25

    Hey Animal Control Officer, I have a suggestion for you! Swallow a whole bottle of sleeping pills, then drive yourself off a cliff.

  27. Misty spews:

    Tuesday, 6/13/06 at 12:11 pm

    If they’d polled me, I’d have voted with the 78% to say by-by to the Sonics.

  28. For the Clueless spews:

    Tuesday, 6/13/06 at 12:12 pm

    Rove’s a slippery fellow to be sure. However, Fitz nailed that scumbag Libby – who will be pardoned by Bush.

    S’Ok. Most people aren’t buying Bush and Cheney’s crap any longer.

  29. Michael spews:

    Tuesday, 6/13/06 at 12:20 pm

    @3 You might have a point if the Bill of Rights said “The right of the people to have abortions will not be infringed.”

  30. Roger Rabbit spews:

    Tuesday, 6/13/06 at 12:22 pm

    INITIATE 297 STRUCK DOWN

    In other news, a federal judge struck down I-297, approved by voters in Nov. 2004, which prohibits further radioactive waste shipments to Hanford. The judge said the state law impinges on federal authority to regulate radioactive materials.

    From now on, out-of-state motorists won’t need GPS to find their way into Washington. Just drive toward the blue glow on the horizon.

  31. Roger Rabbit spews:

    Tuesday, 6/13/06 at 12:23 pm

    29

    Michael, have you ever read Roe v. Wade? Just curious.

  32. Roger Rabbit spews:

    Tuesday, 6/13/06 at 12:43 pm

    The authors of the majority opinion in Roe v. Wade discerned an implied constitutional right of privacy.

    Of course, the whole notion of implied rights flies way over the heads of the uneducated and illiterate segment of American society — it’s simply too deep and complicated for them to comprehend. If they can’t see it in black-and-white, it ain’t there.

    That’s why they think it’s okay to cut down tropical rain forests — because they’re never going to see a tropical rain forest, they don’t even exist — so we don’t need ’em.

    Now, here’s the really HARD part of implied powers. In Marbury v. Madison, Chief Justice John Marshall ruled courts have an implied power to declare legislative acts unconstitutional. Although the power of judicial review is not expressly stated in the Constitution, Marshall reasoned that such a power is necessary because the form of government created by the Constitution would not work without it, therefore this power is necessarily implied to exist in the Constitution.

    The majority’s reasoning in Roe v. Wade an implied constitutional right of privacy exists is not logically flawed. That part of the opinion is well reasoned and holds together. The Court’s conclusion that a right to get an abortion necessarily flows from the right of privacy is much more debatable. I think reasonable minds can differ on that issue, and that it is ultimately a philosophical decision. It follows that justices with a different philosophical orientation could reach a different conclusion.

    I would go farther and argue that it is not unreasonable for lawyers to argue that it is unconstitutional to deprive an unborn fetus of its life without due process of law. The sticking point, of course, is whether a viable but not yet born fetus is a human being entitled to the protections of the Constitution and law. The Roe Court essentially said that, after searching for an answer in the fields of religion, philosophy, ethics, law, science, and so on, it could not definitively answer that question. So that, also, is a philosophical question.

    I don’t have a problem with the idea that some people are philosophically opposed to abortion. But in the end, the practical question is whether one group should be able to impose their beliefs on the entire society, or whether the philosophical question is one that every individual should be free to answer for himself/herself according to his/her own religious, moral, and philosophical beliefs.

    My personal philosophical belief is that abortion is a moral wrong, although in some cases abortion may be the lesser evil (for example, where necessary to save the mother’s life, or in rape cases). But I have never said that I want to set the rules for people who disagree with my point of view, or that they have to conform their behavior to my beliefs. I think they have the right to make their own decisions about this very difficult question. And that’s where I differ with the right-to-lifers: I don’t have the right to interfere, or tell other people how they must live their lives. They think they do.

  33. Roger Rabbit spews:

    Tuesday, 6/13/06 at 12:47 pm

    12

    Let us know of YOUR money buys what it used to, and if not, whether you’re happy with that.

  34. Janet S spews:

    Tuesday, 6/13/06 at 12:49 pm

    Rove sure seems to occupy a large part of your brains. Why is it so hard to just admit that there was nothing there? No one has been found to have outed a CIA agent. In fact, Fitz won’t even admit that a CIA agent was outed, regardless of by whom.

    So Libby is indicted for remembering a conversation with a reporter differently than that reporter remembered it. There is no accusation of outing anyone, or revealing any classified information. If that sounds like justice to you, may you move to north carolina and play lacrosse.

  35. REP Pat Kennedy [D-Bitchslap the Black Security Guard At LAX] spews:

    Tuesday, 6/13/06 at 12:53 pm

    Washington – China’s new Dong Feng-31, or CSS-9, road-mobile intercontinental ballistic missile is expected to enter service during 2006, Jane’s Intelligence reported on its Web site janes.com on June 9. The DF-31 is expected to be followed by the extended-range DF-31A version in 2007 /break/ The operational debut of the new JL-2 submarine-launched ballistic missile is expected some time between 2007 and 2010. Due to be deployed on the new Jin-class Type 094 nuclear-powered ballistic missile submarine, or SSBN, it will provide China with an additional, survivable nuclear option. […………………………………………………………………Bill Clinton and his pal, the CEO of Loral Corp [one of Goldy’s buddies], must be very proud!!!]

  36. Rujax206 spews:

    Tuesday, 6/13/06 at 12:58 pm

    Dearest Janet (the ignorant) S.(lut) and
    howcanyoubePROUDtobeanEVILfuckingchristianistBITCH-

    Rove is a liar.
    Bush is incompetent.
    Cheney is a thief.

    It’ll ALL come out in the wash.

  37. Rujax206 spews:

    Tuesday, 6/13/06 at 1:02 pm

    Rove’s a liar…

    AND an unpatriotic ASSHOLE:

    ”
    Rove, one of Washington’s most powerful and polarizing figures who is under investigation in the leak of a CIA covert operative’s name, chided Democrats for floating the idea of troop reductions in Iraq.

    He specifically targeted Massachusetts Sen. John Kerry and Pennsylvania Rep. John Murtha.

    “Like too many Democrats it strikes me they are ready to give the green light to go to war, but when it gets tough, they fall back of that party’s old platform of cutting and running. They may be with you for the first few bullets but they won’t be there for the last tough battles,” he said.”
    (via kos)

    That’s your Republican Party, folks.

    Ann Coulter, Michael (the weeeeener) Savage and Karl (the pork chop) Rove.

  38. Roger Rabbit spews:

    Tuesday, 6/13/06 at 1:07 pm

    34

    I see Janet the Shill is being an apologist for treason again.

  39. Roger Rabbit spews:

    Tuesday, 6/13/06 at 1:09 pm

    35

    Does this mean you righty warmongers are going to rethink your burning desire to pre-emptively obliterate China with a nuclear first strike, in the interest of your own self-preservation?

  40. Roger Rabbit spews:

    Tuesday, 6/13/06 at 1:13 pm

    In a previous thread, “sillyguy” proposed amending the state constituion to require a revote of close elections. I called his idea “a flying machine that won’t fly.”

    For photo of sillyguy tinkering with his invention, click here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I.....hopter.JPG

  41. Michael spews:

    Tuesday, 6/13/06 at 1:15 pm

    @31 Not in its entirety. However, would you not agree that there is a fundamental difference in credibility between saying “the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed,” and saying “the synopsis of the 1st, 4th, 5th, 9th, and 14th amendments imply a right to privacy, and that right to privacy extends to killing an unborn child, but not to the individual choice of whether or not to use certain narcotics.”

  42. REP Pat Kennedy [D-Bitchslap the Black Security Guard At LAX] spews:

    Tuesday, 6/13/06 at 1:18 pm

    35, cont…….CEO Loral Corp: Clinton hack Bernie “Red” Swaartz. Enough said.

  43. Daddy Love spews:

    Tuesday, 6/13/06 at 2:56 pm

    Informed speculation has Rove trading “cooperation” with the prosecution for his pending indictment. That looks like it pretty much seals Scooter’s fate. Chances are the pressure on Sooter to flip and give up Cheney goes WAY up starting now.

  44. Daddy Love spews:

    Tuesday, 6/13/06 at 2:57 pm

    There is a fundamental difference in credibility between saying “the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed” and saying “A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed. “

  45. Daddy Love spews:

    Tuesday, 6/13/06 at 3:12 pm

    That fundamental difference was the entire reason behind the Miller ruling.

  46. Daddy Love spews:

    Tuesday, 6/13/06 at 3:14 pm

    JCH, you should learn how to spell. Not that I am holding my breath. The former CEO of LORAL Corp. was Bernard Schwartz, not Swaartz. Is that how the Nazis say it?

  47. Daddy Love spews:

    Tuesday, 6/13/06 at 3:21 pm

    BTW, Goldy—

    Congratulations on your radio show. I listened for most of the first two hours. Well done despite the rather short segments. And getting to hear Roger Rabbit’s call was a treat!

  48. BushWentAWOL spews:

    Tuesday, 6/13/06 at 3:23 pm

    Except for a lapse of several months, Selective Service records show presidential adviser Karl Rove escaped the draft for nearly three years at the height of the Vietnam War using student deferments. ” [Walsh, Salt Lake Tribune, 9/18/2004]
    Rove’s (non-) draft history includes a period where he claimed a student deferment even though he had dropped out of school.

  49. Roger Rabbit spews:

    Tuesday, 6/13/06 at 3:43 pm

    41

    No, I wouldn’t say that. Getting to the interpretation of the 2nd Amendment that you want required just as much interpretation and filling in the blanks as Roe v. Wade did. You see, the 2nd Amendment actually says,

    “A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.”

    and some folks argue this language creates no right for individuals to keep and bear arms, but only creates a right for state governments to maintain armed militias.

  50. Roger Rabbit spews:

    Tuesday, 6/13/06 at 3:45 pm

    41

    Additionally, Michael, there’s the little matter of Marbury v. Madison, which one may aptly call “the Mother of All Judicial Activism” — in the truest sense of the phrase.

  51. Roger Rabbit spews:

    Tuesday, 6/13/06 at 3:46 pm

    Without Marbury, the 2nd Amendment would mean whatever Congress says it means, which could change with every election.

  52. ArtFart spews:

    Tuesday, 6/13/06 at 3:56 pm

    Re: #48…I wonder if Karl Rove by happenstance benefitted from the same thing I did. When they ended student deferments, since my Selective Service number was 147, I decided to ask them to call me up so I could take my physical, so I’d know whether or not to sign up for the next quarter’s classes. Turned out that a couple of unfortunate kids had died in boot camp due to unknown medical problems. As a result, they were really going over inductees from stem to stern, and sending lots of guys home with 1-Y deferments for things they hadn’t known they had.

  53. REP Pat Kennedy [D-Bitchslap the Black Security Guard At LAX] spews:

    Tuesday, 6/13/06 at 4:04 pm

    JCH, you should learn how to spell. Not that I am holding my breath. The former CEO of LORAL Corp. was Bernard Schwartz, not Swaartz. Is that how the Nazis say it?

    Commentby Daddy Love [Schwartz, Goldstein, Lowenstein……..whatever, Daddy Love]

  54. Daddy Love spews:

    Tuesday, 6/13/06 at 4:09 pm

    All Jews look alike to you, eh, JCH?

  55. Daddy Love spews:

    Tuesday, 6/13/06 at 4:12 pm

    52

    Rove’s deferments…http://www.neilrogers.com/news.....92003.html

  56. Janet S spews:

    Tuesday, 6/13/06 at 4:28 pm

    Like I said, you all are really hung up on Rove. It is kind of cute. It must be love.

    So, who has been indicted for leaking the name of a CIA covert agent? Who has Fitz indicted for leaking classified information?

    What? No one?

    Yeah, I know. Just change the subject to military service.

  57. Gop Lies spews:

    Tuesday, 6/13/06 at 5:23 pm

    Karl Rove may not be indicted. But he may still have to haul his big fat lying Republican ass into court :).

    While it appears that Mr. Rove will not be called to answer in criminal court for his participation in the wrongful disclosure of Valerie Wilson’s classified employment status at the CIA in retaliation against Joe Wilson for questioning the rationale for war in Iraq, that obviously does not end the matter. The day still may come when Mr. Rove and others are called to account in a court of law for their attacks on the Wilsons.

  58. Gop Lies spews:

    Tuesday, 6/13/06 at 5:50 pm

    Ann Coulter, the delicate flower of Christian womanhood, represents all that is good and fine among Right Wing Republican Women Bible believers. She is the living embodiment of the Gospels, showing to all the radiant truth known to real believers. To disagree with her is to blaspheme God! When confronted about her comments, all one can say is: yes, this is what believing in Jesus means! Ann Coulter stands as a statue above the world’s shifting moral tides, steadily upholding True Believer Christianity.

    Her style and demeanor inspire young born again Christian girls everywhere. She is held up as THE example for them to follow. Whether in fashion, dress, hair style or demeanor she is the gold standard of Right Wing White Women’s Republican Evangelical Christianity :), the personification if not the exemplification of virtuous virginhood. Ann Coulter is your poster girl, cheerleading you out of your closets and letting the world see, close up and personal, your racism, bigotry, and fascist fallacies! Do we hate Ann Coulter? No. She is a Republican poster drag queen. :) Ann Coulter is teaching the whole universe what is wrong with Republicans today — you can’t buy advertising like that for any amount of money! Keep up the good work, Ann! You’re our very best friend.

    Signed, Your Liberal Friends

  59. howcanyoubePROUDtobeanASS spews:

    Tuesday, 6/13/06 at 6:39 pm

    “ Best of the Web Today – June 13, 2006

    It Ain’t So, Joe

    On the first day of Fitzmas
    Fitzgerald gave to me
    An indictment of Scooter Libby

    On the second day of Fitzmas
    Fitzgerald gave to me
    Uh, nothing! Damn it!

    Well, that was quite a kerfuffle, wasn’t it? Let’s flash back to July 2003, when The Nation’s David Corn relayed Joe Wilson’s claim that the White House had “leaked” the name of his wife, Valerie Plame:

    Without acknowledging whether she is a deep-cover CIA employee, Wilson says, “Naming her this way would have compromised every operation, every relationship, every network with which she had been associated in her entire career. This is the stuff of Kim Philby and Aldrich Ames.” . . .

    Under the Intelligence Identities Protection Act of 1982, it is a crime for anyone who has access to classified information to disclose intentionally information identifying a covert agent. The punishment for such an offense is a fine of up to $50,000 and/or up to ten years in prison.

    Wilson famously said he would like to “get Karl Rove frog-marched out of the White House in handcuffs.” The New York Times and other liberal editorial pages demanded the appointment of a special prosecutor to investigate who gave accurate information to journalists, though it apparently didn’t occur to them that finding that out would entail calling journalists to testify. (Now they are vigorously defending their First Amendment right to disclose things that really are secret.) The Justice Department complied.

    Today Rove’s lawyer, Robert Luskin, told the Times that the prosecutor, Patrick Fitzgerald, had formally advised Rove that he will not be charged. It appears the investigation is over, except for the forthcoming trial of Scooter Libby on charges of perjury and obstruction of justice–wrongdoing that allegedly took place entirely after the investigation began.

    This has got to be the worst day for the Angry Left since at least last Thursday. It would not be an exaggeration to call the left’s enthusiasm over the Plame kerfuffle a case of mass hysteria. For months they have been awaiting “Fitzmas,” the day that the grand jury handed up indictments of Rove and–who knows?–maybe even the vice president himself.

    Sorry, guys.

    Anyway, look around the Web and you can find examples of the Angry Left going through the five stages of grieving (we should note that this guy beat us to the idea):

    Denial. Truthout.org (motto: “If you want the truth, get out of here”) “reports” that Rove actually has been indicted. “As of Friday afternoon that indictment, returned by the grand jury the week of May 10th, remains under seal–more than a month after it was handed up by the grand jury. The case number is “06 cr 128.” On the federal court’s electronic database, ’06 cr 128′ is listed along with a succinct summary: ‘No further information is available.’ ” Says blogress Christy Smith: “Unless and until I hear it from Patrick Fitzgerald, the investigation continues to be ongoing. Which means that there are still potential developments down the road.”

    Bargaining. “This latest news doesn’t prove or disprove the basic question of whether Fitzgerald was ready to indict Rove,” claims Duncan “Atrios” Black. “It’s quite likely Rove has cut a deal of some sort. It’s quite possible that Fitz’s letter to Luskin, which hasn’t been made public as far as I can tell, says something along the lines of ‘as long as you cooperate as promised your ass is safe for now.’ ” Black’s employer, Media Mutters, says maybe Rove will lose his security clearance for–well, for what isn’t quite clear.

    Anger. “He doesn’t belong in the White House. If the president valued America more than he valued his connection to Karl Rove, Karl Rove would have been fired a long time ago,” says Democratic National Committee chairman Howard Dean on the “Today” show. “So I think this is probably good news for the White House, but it’s not very good news for America.”

    Despair. “My Heart Is Broken, My Spirit Crushed, My Faith in America Destroyed,” declares “Dementer” on DemocraticUnderground.com. “On the other hand, I am sure that there are numerous other criminal enterprises that Kkkarl [sic] has participated in, so we just have to keep digging. Perhaps Fitz is doing just that–he has the license to do so. Or am I approaching the definition of insanity, here?”

    Acceptance. “I think the chances are nil that Luskin is making this up since that’d be practically daring Patrick Fitzgerald to indict his client,” says Josh Marshall, who had been one of the most credulous cheerleaders. “Whatever else he may be . . ., he’s no fool.” Though Marshall must be feeling quite foolish for having been one of Wilson’s most enthusiastic and credulous cheerleaders way back when.

    Drudge notes that many Angry Left Web sites have been strangely quiet, though MSNBC’s Keith Olbermann, who according to Drudge has predicted Rove’s indictment at least 26 times, does comment: “It is the ‘Perfect Storm’ of baseball scandals.” “

    A great big “Thank You” to Stefan Sharkansky @ http://www.soundpolitics.com/ for the thoughtful provision of the PREVIEW BUTTON on his site, http://www.soundpolitics.com/

  60. howcanyoubePROUDtobeanASS spews:

    Tuesday, 6/13/06 at 6:41 pm

    A great big “Thank You” to Stefan Sharkansky @ http://www.soundpolitics.com/ for the thoughtful provision of the PREVIEW BUTTON on his site, http://www.soundpolitics.com/ and his generously allowing us to use it LIBERALLY to check our work before we post. If only other blog hosts, you know, the ones now gainfully employes with their own litte radio program now, would be as generous and thoughtful…

  61. Gop Lies spews:

    Tuesday, 6/13/06 at 7:20 pm

    As it stands, the public record on Rove’s behavior is damning. And now, the Bush/McClellan mantra about “not commenting on an ongoing investigation” – often used while they were, in fact, commenting on it – is now inoperative. It’s Q&A time.

    Media Matters (courtesy FDL) leads off with the most critical one: Given what we know about Rove’s disclosure of sensitive information, shouldn’t his security clearance be revoked? That’s what his security agreement requires, which is why “sixteen former CIA and military intelligence officials(have) urged President Bush to suspend (his) security clearance.”
    But the country deserves to know whether a leaker is sitting at the seat of power with access to highly classified data. We need to know how the Administration will ensure that harmful, politically-motivated leaks won’t occur again.

    We deserve to know whether Rove cut a deal in return for an agreement not to indict him. Conservatives are already lining up to describe him as a man unjustly accused, as if the Plame investigation was a modern-day Dreyfus Affair. But if he’s a criminal who turned states’ evidence to avoid indictment, he’s not Alfred Dreyfus. He’s Joe Valachi.

    So that’s the next question: Is the President’s Senior Advisor a Dreyfus or a Valachi?

    There are many more questions that need to be answered, too, including this one: Prosecutors turn witnesses when they’re after a bigger fish. Who would that be in this case?

    But the first question isn’t for the White House. It’s for the media: Will you pursue this story until it’s resolved, now that the artificial barrier’s been removed by the White House? Judging by CNN’s swallowing of White House spin (as in this video clip entitled “Watch how Rove announcement helps the White House”), I’m not optimistic.

    Karl Rove’s behavior in the Plame Affair was sleazy. We deserve to know whether it was illegal. We also have a right to know whether we’ll be protected from any further security breaches for political reasons. If the prosecutor believes there are more leakers in the White House, we should know that.

    We also deserve to know whether we have a press corps that’s up to the task.

  62. sillyguy spews:

    Tuesday, 6/13/06 at 7:22 pm

    40

    Your thought that having a Louisana style election would not fly shows the extent of your rabbit brain. Your autistic cartoon replies are without merit.

  63. Tree Frog Farmer spews:

    Tuesday, 6/13/06 at 7:23 pm

    Consider that Net ‘Tards whine about preview buttons. . . . .

  64. howcanyoubePROUDtobeanASS spews:

    Tuesday, 6/13/06 at 9:36 pm

    Um. Goplies, you need to wake out of your drug induced coma… McClellan resigned about a month ago…unless of course, you copied and pasted… moron.

  65. How Can You Be Proud To Support Lying Incompetent Corrupt Republicans spews:

    Wednesday, 6/14/06 at 7:17 am

    That was the Bush/McClellan Mantra.

    Snow has no Mantra Yet. He is trying to keep his head above the Snowjob.

  66. Mike Webb Sucks spews:

    Wednesday, 6/14/06 at 7:24 am

    “Scientists have an independent obligation to respect and present the truth as they see it,” Al Gore sensibly asserts in his film “An Inconvenient Truth”, showing at Cumberland 4 Cinemas in Toronto since Jun 2. With that outlook in mind, what do world climate experts actually think about the science of his movie?

    Professor Bob Carter of the Marine Geophysical Laboratory at James Cook University, in Australia gives what, for many Canadians, is a surprising assessment: “Gore’s circumstantial arguments are so weak that they are pathetic. It is simply incredible that they, and his film, are commanding public attention.”

    But surely Carter is merely part of what most people regard as a tiny cadre of “climate change skeptics” who disagree with the “vast majority of scientists” Gore cites?

    No; Carter is one of hundreds of highly qualified non-governmental, non-industry, non-lobby group climate experts who contest the hypothesis that human emissions of carbon dioxide (CO2) are causing significant global climate change. “Climate experts” is the operative term here. Why? Because what Gore’s “majority of scientists” think is immaterial when only a very small fraction of them actually work in the climate field.

    http://www.canadafreepress.com.....061206.htm

  67. Mike Webb Sucks spews:

    Wednesday, 6/14/06 at 7:26 am

    Yes, Democrats in action, deeds and words:

    http://www.kansascity.com/mld/.....810990.htm

  68. Mike Webb Sucks spews:

    Wednesday, 6/14/06 at 7:32 am

    Yes, Puddy is right. Why do Democrats tlak with forked tongue?

    http://www.heraldsun.com/tools.....yID=743917

  69. Mike Webb Sucks spews:

    Wednesday, 6/14/06 at 7:35 am

    Ohhh Magoo, they’re at it again!

    http://www.breitbart.com/news/.....mjh3k.html

  70. Mike Webb Sucks spews:

    Wednesday, 6/14/06 at 7:42 am

    Wow: Sounds like the Democratic Leadership:

    http://article.nationalreview......gzYzE2ZDA=

  71. For the Clueless spews:

    Wednesday, 6/14/06 at 9:18 am

    MWS – glug, glug, glug – wingnut Kool-aid.

  72. HOW CAN YOU BE PROUD TO BE A PART OF LYING REPUBLICAN CORRUPT INEPTNESS spews:

    Wednesday, 6/14/06 at 10:35 am

    THE CANDADIAN FREE PRESS IS NEITHER FREE, OBJECTIVE NOR INDEPENDENT. QUOTING FROM THE CONSERVATIVE BIASED CANADIAN “FREE PRESS” IS QUOTING FROM ANOTHER CONSERVATIVE PROPAGANDA RAG.

    LYING BUSH ADMINISTRATION TRIES TO SILENCE TOP NASA CLIMATE SCIENTIST FOR SPEAKING OUT ABOUT GLOBAL WARMING.

    “The top climate scientist at NASA says the Bush administration has tried to stop him from speaking out since he gave a lecture last month calling for prompt reductions in emissions of greenhouse gases linked to global warming.”

    The scientist, James E. Hansen, longtime director of the agency’s Goddard Institute for Space Studies, said in an interview that officials at NASA headquarters had ordered the public affairs staff to review his coming lectures, papers, postings on the Goddard Web site and requests for interviews from journalists.

    “Dr. Hansen said he would ignore censorship restrictions. “They feel their job is to be this censor of information going out to the public,” he said.

    He fell out of favor with the Bush Administration in 2004 after giving a speech at the University of Iowa before the presidential election, in which he complained that government climate scientists were being muzzled.

    But Dr. Hansen said that nothing in 30 years equaled the push made since early December to keep him from publicly discussing what he says are clear-cut dangers from further delay in curbing carbon dioxide.

    Glug Glug Republicans are liars and deniers. Bush is your denier leader.

  73. For the Clueless spews:

    Wednesday, 6/14/06 at 12:12 pm

    72 – Excellent. Thanks.

    MWS: down the hatch with more right-wing kool-aid. Delusional. Disconnected from reality.

  74. Michael spews:

    Wednesday, 6/14/06 at 11:26 pm

    @44 & 49 Now, according to the Militia Act of 1792, who was the militia, these special privileged people who had the right to bear arms? And are there any other rights in the Bill of Rights where “the right of the people” only applies to a certain class of people, as you would like to interpret the second amendment? Perhaps the first amendment only applies to professional journalists, not to you and I.

  75. Mike Webb Sucks spews:

    Thursday, 6/15/06 at 12:16 am

    Wow For the Clueless came out of Roger’s burrow. I have no idea whom the pinhead with the real long CAPITAL moniker. This James Hansen article you on the left love to throw is OLD NEWS. Try something new.

    I just went to the CFP and what did I see advertised there. Impeach Bush and Don’t blame me I voted for Kerry paraphrenalia. Yes, you left-wing wack jobs, if it dosen’t have it’s head far up Al Gore’s butt, it has to be wrong!

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    Tackle climate change Offset CO2 emissions
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    ESP – greenhouse gas
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    global climate change
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    http://www.TerraPass.com

    Yes left-wing whack jobs these are right win sites advertising on CFP. Poor argument, poorly delivered, no factual support!

  76. Harry Tuttle aka voter advocate spews:

    Saturday, 6/17/06 at 11:30 pm

    MTR, among Kevin Carns’ other pseudonyms, have been babbling a lot about what lefties like me think of the killing of Abu Musab al-Zarqawi.

    Unlike the trolls, I decided to wait a few days before coming to any conclusion about what the death of this street thug would mean to the situation on the ground in Iraq.

    Al-Zarqawi had been another BushCo whipping boy, like Jose Padilla, that they trotted out to impress us all with how tough the chicken hawks are on terrorist. Zarqawi had a criminal record as a sex offender before going to Afghanistan. There began to follow the most extreme school of Salafism, closely akin to the puritanical Wahhabism. Basically, Salafists believe that anyone who doesn’t practice Islam as they do is and infidel and needs to be dead. That was the religion Zarqawi had always been looking for, and the Iraq war gave him his opportunity to become the psychotic killer he had been destined to be.

    So he was a great target, you have to wonder what took us so long, but what has happened in Iraq since Zarqawi has been dead?

    On Saturday, rebel forces foiled heightened security in Baghdad and killed more than two dozen people Saturday in an action meant to avenge the death of Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, dealing a blow to the Iraqi government’s pledge to bring peace to the capital. Eleven more Iraqis died in shooting attacks across Iraq. And U.S. troops combed through the region south of the capital looking for two soldiers missing since an attack Friday that had also killed one of their comrades.

    As a Jordanian intelligence officer said If Zarqawi is captured or killed tomorrow, the Iraqi insurgency will go on. There is no such thing as ‘Zarqawism.’

    Just another Karl Rove stunt in an attempt to push up Bush’s poll numbers, and it worked. It worked every other time the Pentagon reported al Zarqawi’s death had been trotted out, and this was the last hurrah. The previous cries of wolf necessitated a body this time.

    Bush had his photo op, another Mission Accomplished, but the spree of violence in Baghdad has been an embarrassment for Iraq Prime Minister al-Maliki, who ordered more police and army checkpoints to restore security for the 5 million Baghdad residents.

    This stroll on the deck appears to be about as effective as the previous one. Of course, you righties don’t care about competence, bright shiny objects cause you to pounce at shadows. The Pentagon is looking for a new cat toy excuse for you to use in claiming that the violence in Iraq is imported. But when al-Maliki will forgive killing of Americans in amnesty negotiations, we know where he thinks the attacks are coming from.

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