Wow. Over a half million people marched through the streets of Los Angeles today, protesting a proposed immigration bill that would amongst other things, build a 700 mile-long “security wall” across our southern border.
Hmm. You know, in addition to keeping people out, walls like this are also pretty good at keeping people in.
Pollution of culture…
do ya notice how LA kinda looks like PARIS?
Good or bad?
Do ya think feriners should assimilate to mainstream culture? How bout they come in legally. Bring marketable skills. Contribute to Murka society? Pay taxes.
Not for knocked up ‘hos to come here and get free care for their chirrens. Come in and be part of us?
Am I wrong?
Why can’t we actually ENFORCE OUR LAWS?
Dr E. from your friends the National Lawyers Guild:
“The National Lawyers Guild Urges Support for the Boycott of Israeli Goods by the Norwegian County of Sor-Trondelag
On December 15, 2005, the Provincial Government of Sor-Trondelag, which includes Trondheim, Norway’s third largest city, voted to boycott Israeli goods and urged its population to do the same. Sor-Trondelag was the first Norwegian county to boycott South Africa. It now condemns Israel’s occupation of the West Bank, the Gaza Strip and the Golan Heights; the establishment of settlements in violation of international law; the construction of the Wall, which was declared illegal by the International Court of Justice; and the prohibition on the return of refugees. With this resolution, Sor-Trondelag hopes to spearhead a movement to condemn Israel world-wide.” = BOZOS!
So I ask you Dr E.; we now know Yasir Arafat had $2-3 Billion in Swiss Bank Accounts. I mentioned this on ASSes just after he died and many ASSes scoffed at me. I provided the links proving Arafat’s skimming and ASSes scoffed at me. Now the Plaestinians admit they want that money but his wife Suha has it hidden. The Guild blames Israel for the Palestinian plight. I blame Arafat.
Stay tuned I’ll identify more moronic issues from the groups in Hansen’s book!
…it’s just that the reality is vaginas make us men .
Comment by GBS— 12/29/05 @ 5:44 pm
…vaginas do indeed make us men.
Comment by Donnageddon— 12/29/05 @ 5:55 pm
…how big a capacitator do we need to shoot MTR into orbit with a flashlight battery?
Commentby Roger Rabbit— 3/12/06@ 3:42 pm
Government exists to make private wealth possible.
Commentby Belltowner— 3/12/06@ 4:15 pm
I like Castro’s system better. He confiscates the employer’s property, shoots the employer, and the workers get quality health care for free. We need something like that in America.
Commentby Roger Rabbit— 3/19/06@ 3:42 pm
Don’t talk to me about “core beliefs…”
Commentby headless lucy— 3/25/06@ 7:07 pm
Mark the idiot – they do pay taxes, all of them. Sales, withholding, soc security.
Never claim them. Soc Sec had many billions of Mexican worker money that will never be claimed.
While the Euro community dissolves boardes, we erect a wall. God. Just too fucking weird, and racist.
But wait. The Canadian threat lurks for the neocons — danger from the north as well.
By the way, the Latino community votes, and watch them vote Democrat as s bloc. Save Florida where the Batista mafia fled.
Dr E.: How about this one:
“THE NATIONAL LAWYERS GUILD DEMANDS RELEASE ON BAIL, AND AVOIDANCE OF DEPORTATION PROCEEDINGS, FOR DR. SAMI AL-ARIAN
New York. The National Lawyers Guild demands that the government immediately release Dr. Sami Al-Arian on bail and that it guarantee fair procedures in the resolution of outstanding charges against him. An outspoken supporter of the Palestinian people’s right to live free from occupation, Dr. Al-Arian has been a political target of the U.S. government.”
You do know who this bozo is right?
http://www.factsofisrael.com/b.....00203.html
“All of these groups openly support Sheik Rahman’s buddy, Dr. Sami Al-Arian, the Islamic Jihad Chief of Military Operations, who doubles as the tax-funded, vacationing University of South Florida professor of computer science. Al-Arian raised money to fund his terrorist operations in mainstream mosques all over America, videotapes show, with the willing participation of the mosques’ imams (religious leaders) and congregants. In one video, Fawwaz Abu Damra, Imam of the Islamic Center of Cleveland, is shown introducing Al-Arian as head of “the active arm of the Islamic Jihad Movement in Palestine, and we like to call it the Islamic Committee for Palestine here for security reasons.” Abu Damra implored mosque congregants, “Donate to the Islamic Jihad! . . . If you write a check, write it for the Islamic Committee for Palestine.”
and to follow up on Cheney’s obsessive/compulsive demands for his hotel bookings,
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/a.....eney1.html
we no have GWB’s Commandments:
On the heels of the Cheney “Downtime Requirements” document obtained by The Smoking Gun, this reporter has come into possession of a top secret memo outlining the Top Ten demands that President Bush has during his hotel stays:
10. All lights turned off — Bush prefers to stay in the dark.
9. Four cartons of chocolate milk, and a package of Oreos, in honor of such Bush aides as Claude “The Fraud” Allen.
8. Temperature set to 31 degrees — helps maintain Bush’s “brain freeze.”
7. Two televisions, one equipped with an X-Box, one tuned to The Cartoon Channel.
6. Wireless internet capacity, so he can track NSA surveillance of Helen Thomas.
5. A swivel chair, so the President can do “whirlybirds.”
4. For reading material, a comic book version of The King James Bible.
3. For when he travels with Laura, a banner over the bed, reading: “MISSIONARY POSITION ACCOMPLISHED.”
2. A “double-commode” in the bathroom, so that Bush can share intimate moments with Karl “Turd Blossom” Rove.
1. A sign on the back of the hotel room door, providing a map for an “exit strategy.”
0. Peep holes in the walls so that Puddybud and MTR can watch what goes on in there, as they have no idea what goes on in the real world.
http://satiricalpolitical.com/?p=61
Dr E. Now the ACLU:
ACLU attacks abstinence education
ACLU Attacks US Sovereignty
ACLU Attacks Student-Approved Collegiate Prayer at Naval Academy
ACLU Attacks Boy Scouts of America
ACLU Suit Targets Taxes on ‘Religious’ Books
ACLU Attacksthe United States Military. SCOTUS says Law Schools that accept federal tax dollars are required to provide military recruiters access to the campus.
ACLU Defends NAMBLA
ACLU defends polygamy
ACLU Defends Picketing at Funerals
ACLU Defends Nazis’ Right To Burn Down ACLU Headquarters
ACLU Defends Bus Rider Who Refused to Show ID
ACLU Fights Plan to Teach Alternative to Evolution
Dr E. need more ANTI-US ACLU stuff?
kind of interesting Puddybud, you seem to be the only one around here that keeps bringing up NAMBLA…..are you, by chance, on their board of directors?
Dr E. I have to work on the presentation so more later.
Puddy!
Dumb Puddytat. Amazing! The only one you zero on is NAMBLA. Why do libruls like cougar like hurting little boys?
These are ACLU headlines. You are one dumb librul puddytat.
So Puddybud, if I use the ‘PuddyBuddy Logic Methodology’, by you not answering the post @ 10 you absolutely have to be a card carrying NAMBLA member. The truth is finally out…..
End of story!
And dumb puddytat, you know I am not on the BoD, because looking up their website, you are listed as a prime contributor. You tried to tie me to them when you know you puddytat, love licking little boyz!
Oh no For the Clueless will call for my banning!
Dumb Puddytat: I am workign on a presentation. I got an inkling you’d go there so I just answered you. Go lick something puddytat! Be sure to cough up the “hairball”!
Actually the fact that the left never talks about the evils of NAMBLA speaks volumes. The left also protects sex predator public school teachers.
Cougar the dumb puddytat is pissed that VP CHeney wants water and Fox News. What a stupid puddytat. Those are so obsessive. I get almost all of those at Marriott Hotels as a platinum member and Hilton Hotels as a gold member. Dipshit!
There’s a joke in Mexico right now:
I hear they’re building a 50 ft wall.
Well, I suppose we’ll have to build a 51 foot ladder.
This is more graft for Halliburton, Bechtel and other Republican-connected contractors.
re 3: If you make it prohibitively costly to businesses to hire illegal immigrants, they won’t. And the problem will be solved.
Mark, you are wrong.
The United States is a nation of immigrants. They add richness, vitality and new blood to our society and enrich our culture. We need, and should welcome, all LEGAL immigrants to this country.
The real issue here is ILLEGAL immigration and the negative impact that illegal immigration has on our society; in terms of cost, crime and the non-assimilation that you speak of. Throwing the “Anti-Immagrant” label or the “Racist” word about is a smoke screen designed to prevent discussion about the real issue – ILLEGAL immigration.
Illegal immigration costs this country billions of dollars a year in money that could/should be used for legal residents. I am still driving the 1971 VW bug that I have had for decades to save money and my wife is working full time to help my daughter pay for her college tuition. You see, according to the State of Washington and the Feds, we do not qualify for financial aid. Yet, the state has no problem with taking my tax dollars and using them to provide education and social services for ILLEGAL immigrants. The very same education and social services that are denied my family; tax paying citizens.
We need to fine business and jail employers that use illegal labor. We need to make the enrty process into this country easier and cheaper for those trying to enter legally.
Mostly, we need to focus on the real debate.
Jorkam: If you live in California: Immigrants go to the best schools cheep! And CA has this big budget deficit!
P-Dookie-
You’re BORING.
Shut Up!
Jorkam, certainly you are correct about illegal immigrants. It’s gotta stop. No debate about that.
My bitch is with immigrants who refuse to assimilate, and want to pollute our culture with the fucked up crap that made them want to escape their home country. Murka is the most successful country in the history of the world because our ideas and our culture are demonstrably superior to ALK others in the world. I also have a big bitch with the kook moonbats who think that foreign cultures can somehow make ours better.
My immigration policy would be as follows:
Assimlate or go back to the shithole you came from.
I love this. It hurts Bush and his cabal no matter how you slice it. If he lets the illegals in, he pisses off his ultra-right wing base, which is the only 10-15 percent of the country supporting him. If he tightens up the borders in response to the hate radio crowd of Limbaugh and Hannity, he says adios to the Hispanic vote which he has spent years pandering to. In other words, righties take it in the ass! HE HE !!
“pollute our culture”
holy shit, herr redneck, click your heels any harder and maybe you’ll be magically transported back to the fatherland.
Rudejacks: You are a fool! Disprove these comments! I dare you! You aren’t a dull knife for nothing!
Everything goes back to Bush? Your friends the dummocraps want every immigrant for votes!
P-Dookie-
Just fuck off you asshole…you’re moronic ideas and comments and mental masturbation gets blown up with monotonous regularity here and you are just too fucking DENSE to get it.
NOBODY gives a good GOD DAMN about anything you think…stupid fucking verbal vomit you post. Moron.
Who gives a fuck about your opinion of the ACLU? or anything else? You’re a BORING “one trick pony” you idiot.
Puddy – Geez, I think you hit a nerve. Notice rujax didn’t refute anything you said… just called you names. That’s what they always do when they can’t win the intellectual argument. Plus he hates black people. Pathetic eh?
Rujax – do you hate puddy ’cause he one-a dem “uppity types” dat had the fuckin’ nerve to leave da plantashun? Specially aftah ya’ll treated his so good? Ingrate bastard…
Puddy – fuckzamattah wif you boy? you no bettah’n Cla’nce Thomas or Colin Powell or Condoleeza Rice. Git you aks back where y’all belong and start pickin’ muthahfuckah…
Isn’t that right rujax?
Here is what some people enjoy about our friends south of the border.
Watch this video. It’s funnier than hell.
http://www.yikers.com/video_am.....icans.html
MTR: You are so right. I know their inside moves. I figured it out. They didn’t realize it but Nancy Pelosi let it out of the bag! Hilary changed her tune. These dumb ignorant libruls don’t think a black man can figure these tough issues!
ASSHeads, I present your next most ignorant eat shit and bark at the moon librul Rujax. He makes you guys look like geniuses!
Rujax, if you could refute my arguments I’d debate you. But you spew vitriolic hatred with no backup plan. Spew on rujax!
I’m so glad to have the chance to read these deeply satisfying intellectual exchanges! We need more of this in America if we are to chart our course to a safe and prosperous future.
But seriously…
Immigration reform is a huge problem for Bush and the Republicans, because it pits the theocratic racist ideologues against the free-trader big-business corporatists.
I heard Michelle Malkin on a Fox TV show today arguing that Americans would do the jobs now performed by illegal immigrants if only businesses would pay higher wages! Once we ship the 11 million Mexicans out of the country, the labor market will tighten, wages will go up, and all those jobs will be filled by nice, white, Americans.
This is suicide for the Republican party! Business owners of all parties throughout history are indissolubly united by the desire to keep wages low. For a right-wing Republican to argue for higher wages on ideological grounds is evidence that the coalition of the theocrats and the free-traders is coming to an end.
May both houses perish with all due haste!
Rogers’s friend getting ready for a date. Who may that be pray tell.
http://www.funpic.hu/en.picvie.....d&p=3
Which one is Roger?
http://www.funpic.hu/en.picvie.....d&p=9
Never claim them. Soc Sec had many billions of Mexican worker money that will never be claimed.
You know Bob they did not have to come, indenture less workers what makes you think their employers paid the Social Security.
While the Euro community dissolves boardes, we erect a wall. God. Just too fucking weird, and racist.
The walls would not be necessary if you deport them to Canada. They need a new cheap labor force the locals do not like to work hard.
But wait. The Canadian threat lurks for the neocons — danger from the north as well.
The Canadians are not a threat with Seattle takes up a collection so they can move to Canada. They only need a half million to get in country.
By the way, the Latino community votes, and watch them vote Democrat as s bloc. Save Florida where the Batista mafia fled.
The Latino’s are not lacking in gray matter like you Bob, and most can speak English. Remember they went to school in Seattle when you skip class.
Commentby BOB from BOEING— 3/25/06@ 7:19 pm
Hmmmm Clowns carrying a casket. Is this Wellstone’s funeral?
http://www.funpic.hu/en.picvie.....d&p=9
Rujax – there’s no point arguing with these FUWA/WSMSU types. You refute their argument, they just answer with another fallacy.
For the Clueless: You are a useless KLOWN. Cynical identified you long ago. Where did Rujax refute anything this evening? Better yet Karmaboy, where has he ever refuted anything on ASSes? He is Captain Hate. He is Captain Vitriol. You ASSHeads annointed him like the dummocraps annointed Norm Coleman to put up a phony impeach Bush resolution. Nancy “Facelift” Pelosi ran from it. “Scary” Harry Reid ran from it. Chucky “Illegally Use Social Security Numbers” Schumer ran from it. Why are libruls racist, black men & Jewish woman haters?
KLake has found the most descriptive picture of the evening. We know that is you Karmaboy in the back left with the frown. I bet you leave the bed after a session with the wife with a frown. Why? You are a librul. Pew Research study says libruls are unhappy.
40 – You answered me with ad-hominem and made false assertions.
We all know that Rujaxass is a looney loon but Clueless does add a certain gravitas with his drivel.
40
“He is Captain Hate. He is Captain Vitriol. You ASSHeads annointed him”
God I hope so! It’s ABOUT TIME you winger shitheads got some of your own medicine. How’s it taste going down, puddytat? Yeccch? GOOD!!! Have some more, you pus-oozing, wart-infested, hissing little weasel.
Before I forget … klake is a nazi.
I can hardly wait for GBS to return from Europe and tell me again the story of how JCH lied about his military service! I never get tired of that story!
Richard Poop @3
“Why can’t we actually ENFORCE OUR LAWS?” Commentby Richard Pope— 3/25/06@ 7:15 pm
That’s a question I’d like to ask Norm Maleng.
According to Maleng, perjury and voter intimidation are okay when Republicans do it.
Enforce the voting laws first, then worry about immigrants.
37
Klake – Send your kids / frandkinds to the fields to pick fruit, and then we will talk.
The Latinization of western America has been in the cards since we took the SW as spoils of the Mexican War.
And it means a lot of brown skinned peoples – as we all inter marry and many will speadk two languages.
God, what a horror of a future. You people make me sick. – stuck in the rut of racism and isolationism – both implausible and impossible.
Move to the 21 st Century. Where the only boundry is the internet and the jet plane.
We should offer Mexico a Federation of some sort and link the two countries as closely as possible…….by the way ….. they have oil.
Wall sounds sensible to me. And David if you really and truly believe they won’t let you OUT of the fence, then you are in need of a huge reality check! why, you could leave right now and we’d all be just fine with that. We might not let you back in, though (snicker snicker).
We are caught in a catch 22 at the present time. If, as some suggest, we ‘export’ all illegals and fill their shifts with ‘American’ labor, the costs of all products and services will sky rocket. If we allow ‘guest worker’ programs, the public will continually cry that we are ‘insourcing’ our continental workforce and ‘outsourcing’ our upper level jobs. What is the answer? There is really no ‘One Answer’. It is time for a more level headed approach to the ‘illegal immigrant’ situation, and that is not possible until the power DC is once again in the hands of the people. (bi-partisan)
B from B and Cougar,
Finally. Your posts make some sense in a thread on a subject that brings out the worst in people. “Why can’t we enforce the laws we have”?, “why can’t we build a wall?” This kind of crap, posing as thought does nothing to solve the “problem”. The right wing will be split asunder on this issue. They hate unions since unions “distort the labor market”, but then turn around and want to build walls to distort that very market. They whine about “illegals”, but demand cheap services. A nation built by immigrants, and they want to turn this wellspring of renewal off. They live in fear for our “aging society”, but demand that the young and ambitious be turned away at the border. They are the true heirs of the Know Nothing Party, an essential political block in the founding of the Republican Party back in the 1850’s.
I just bought a copy of Jeff Faux’s The Global Class War. I can’t wait to get started on it, and I recommend it to both of you.
Read about the guy who’s going to make sure that Dems win control over the entire federal government!!!
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12...../newsweek/
You librul guys are so funny. What does Mexico do with illegal aliens from Guatamala, Nicaragua, Costa Rico El Salvador when they are caught? They send them back
From that “right” wing rag BusinessWeek:
http://www.businessweek.com/ma....._mz058.htm
“There’s considerable concern in Washington that your southern border with Guatemala doesn’t seem to be very well controlled.
A: We are working on it with the resources we have available. Mexico every year deports over 200,000 people at our southern border. We take very seriously any possible threat, first of all to Mexico, and also to our neighbor the U.S. And we are doing everything we can to minimize the probability [of terrorists slipping through].
Apparently most librul ASSHEads forgot how Mexico treats refugees on it’s southern border during the Guatemalan civil war. But I remember! You see your friends Americas Watch reported on it.
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/N...../index.htm
“When we fled Guatemala, we thought Mexico would be safe. One time during my interrogations, Zorrilla told me, “We’re after you people.” I told him that I had always thought Mexico stood for human rights and respected the human rights of others. He laughed and said, “That’s just a lot of stupid babble!””
And now you want to openly accept Mexicans with no questions asked? The problem with libruls are you guys/gals are superficial; only into feelings. That’s why the hippie and drig culture is so much ingrained on the librul side. We conservatives on the other hand look at root causes of issues.
Problem is we’re still trying to determine what disease caused librulism. Oh yes, it was the residual effect of socialism!
But then again when I place facts on this blog site, most ASSHeads will ridicule me and claim ad-hominem and I made false assertions. Yeah right!
ASSHEads, why aren’t you investigating how come Mexico prevents aliens even poorer than their own population across their southern border by using its military to close the border with Guatemala? Now Mexico has the unmitigated gall to decry the US’ threat of using our military to keep our nation sovereign on our southern border.
puddybud
Re: your ALCU comments.
Just what is it about opposing abstinence-only education (showin to be ineffective and with scores of examples of incorrect materials being provided) and teching religion as science that is “anti-US?”
Richard Pope @ 3
We have lots of immigration laws and they are being enforced. Do you beleive that immigration is SOLELY a law enforcement problem?
Dame Bush has satisfied coustomers again, what with this?
They are not vocal, they are not organized, but Medicare’s
satisfied customers say it was worth wading through the
hassles.
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03.....038;emc=th
I notice when we post facts, you libruls skip over them because the pain of reading facts on the librul mind causes nausea, migraine headaches, and vertigo! Then within the next week some ASSHead will put up their daily dose of moonbat.org or daily kurse innuendo and lies that was refuted the previous week. Then again libruls like to feel good. I don’t. I look at root causes of issues. Why are blacks being killed by Latino gangs in cities now a days. Why are black enclaves being fed with drugs from latino gangs? When crime attacks your favorite voting populace: Blacks in inner cities, nary a word. Just like I posted the issues with uptown lily white Minneapolis when crime strikes there “Oh no we have a crime issue.” When it’s in downtown “the ghetto”, nuthin doing!:
http://www.ncsconline.org/WC/P.....actVS.html – National Center for State Courts – Do you read their information Rabbit Pellet? Maybe you’d become edumicated on illegal immigration!
“There is growing concern over maras (“supergangs” flourishing in the drug trade and burgeoning human smuggling market; police estimate membership to be from 70,000 to 100,000). According to Ana Arana, ultraviolent youth gangs in major U.S. cities have gone south of the border, “where they have transformed themselves into powerful, cross-border crime networks.”[6] The history of these maras (slang in Spanish for gangs) can be traced to the 1992 Los Angeles riots where the police found that a majority of the looting and violence was caused by local maras, including the Mara Salvatrucha (at the time, a little-known Salvadoran gang). In response, legislation in California and the rest of the country became stricter. In 1996 Congress passed a law where noncitizens sentenced to a year or more in prison would be deported after serving their terms. From 2000 to 2004, an estimated 20,000 Central American criminals were deported, many being members of the notorious Los Angeles 18th Street Gang (known in Central America as the M-18). Many gang members soon began to organize throughout Central America and expand ties with fellow gang members in the United States. According to Arana, within the last two years, Central American members of another mara, the MS-13 gang, appeared in New York City, suburban Maryland, and Massachusetts—any place with significant Salvadoran populations.”
” The controversial issue of supplying public benefits to undocumented immigrants is important to state legislatures and to state courts. A Virginia law taking effect on January 1, 2006, requires state and local governments to verify the legal presence of undocumented immigrants aged 19 and older who seek nonemergency public benefits. Arizona passed similar legislation last year (the hotly contested Proposition 200), which was upheld by the U.S. District Court. Georgia and Idaho are considering similar legislation, and there are some efforts in California and Colorado to place such measures on the 2006 ballots. Opponents to such policies argue that they unfairly target and scapegoat undocumented immigrants; supporters say that the costs of supporting undocumented immigrants are astronomical, citing that medical care, education, and incarceration of such immigrants costs California about $10 billion each year.”
Daddy_Love: The reason abstinence only education fails in schools is look at what’s on TV. Look at what’s on MTV! Our society promotes sex before marriage. Of course it’s not going to get high marks. But if we continue to say it maybe people will catch on. I liked hearing of Barry Sanders being a virgin when he was in the NFL. Or AC Green being a virgin playing in the NBA. Maybe that was difficult for you to hear but that’s a positive role model in today’s screw every ho’ music video world. That’s why Bill Cosby was pariahed by the black music industry last year when deep down you know he’s right. Nuff said!
61 – More ad-hominem and false statements – the citations do not support the assertion that african-american communities are under any significant assault by latino gangs.
Puddybud @ 55
“…how Mexico treats refugees on it’s southern border during the Guatemalan civil war…And now you want to openly accept Mexicans with no questions asked?”
What’s the matter, pud? Is there something about Mexican government policy that you think makes Mexicans inherently bad?
Do you think US government policies of kidnapping and torture of innocents without trial or representation makes Americans as individuals inherently bad?
Daddy_Love: Once again you completely miss the point. I look at how a people treats the downtrodden. Mexico’s record of how it’s treats it’s refugees stinks. Yet, Vincente Fox wants the US to openly accept Mexican refugees or Mexican illegal aliens with no questions asked! Do you get it now?
Where are we kidnapping and torturing innocents? Surely you are not speaking of Abu Ghraib! Maybe Guantanamo Bay? If these “innocents” were not firing on our soldiers, plotting bombings, or killing our best like Michael Spann, they would be out on the streets enjoying life, except where Zarqawi tries to kill them. Your definitions crack me up!
For the Karma Klueless: You are white. You have NEVER LIVED in an inner city tenement. You have NEVER SEEN drug deals in the inner city. You have NEVER WATCHED someone get stabbed in real life. I have. My second cousin on momma’s side is a Lieutenant in the Philadelphia police force. Momma’s mother’s and my cuz’ grandmother mother are sisters! I have first hand knowledge jackASS of latino gangs taking over black turf. The MSM won’t print it because in reality it’s one minority killing another minority and unless it affects white libruls in the pocketbook or their physical space it’s not news. Unlike Goldy who grew up in lily white burbs, I gave you Google maps where I grew up in Philadelphia. So I ask again, why don’t white libruls care what happens in the inner city to their largest voting block? If we conservatives could only get the right message out without the Jesse Jackson’s polluting it and pandering to you guys!
Remember Karmaboy, I posted a link last week that proved John Forbes Kerry didn’t care about blacks until he paid off Jesse Jackson at the 11th hour to try and save his campaign with black voters. And where was it from? Your MSM! Again you close those facts out of your mind!
Feb. 8: “Nearly 500 inmates fought Wednesday in racially charged melees at Pitchess Detention Center in Castaic, marking a fifth day of violence in the Los Angeles County jail system and underscoring officials’ inability to stop unrest tied to street conflicts between Latino and black gangs.” –L.A. Times
http://www.streetgangs.com/top.....ave43.html
“4 Alleged Latino Gang Members Indicted in Killing
They are accused of federal weapons and civil rights violations, including murdering a black motorist in L.A. because of his race.”
http://condor.depaul.edu/~dialogo/b…crimination.htm Read about Latino discrimination!
Karmaboy For the Clueless – a really dumb fuck!
Puddybud @ 62
You are indeed a perfect factotum of the Bush administration and conservative thought in general.
– Abstinence-only education does not work. (Texas study showing increased sexual activity after program, multi-state study showing five out of six programs with either no change in behavior ir increased sexual activity, sixth with “mixed results”)
– Abstinence-only prorams have been implemented heavily laced with ideology-driven falsehood ( a Congressional report showed that over 80% of the abstinence-only curricula, used by over two-thirds of federal Special Programs of Regional and National Significance (SPRANS) grantees in 2003, contained false, misleading, or distorted information about reproductive health).
Therefore, we will ignore those inconvenient facts because we KNOW that the ideology is perfect, and so we will continue with policies that fail in the real world. Do you guys have to study to be this dumb?
Just for you Karmaboy Klueless to fuck with your small librul mind with more facts:
http://www.amconmag.com/2005/2005_12_19/cover.html
During the last five years, more than 3,000 murders in Los Angeles County have been attributed to gangs. Fifteen or 20 years ago the majority of the murders would have been committed by members of black gangs. Today, most of the murders are committed by Latino gang members, many of them illegal aliens. Latino gangs now outnumber black gangs, 209 to 152, and have more than double the number of gang members. The 18th Street gang has more than 10,000 members and is the bloodiest criminal organization in Los Angeles. Police estimate that nearly two-thirds of its members are illegal aliens from south of the border. The Lil’ Cycos gang has a similar composition and, although smaller in numbers, proportionately commits as many murders. Year by year, these Latino gangs and others are taking control of turf once ruled by black gangs.
The conflict between Latino gangs and black gangs is especially pronounced at the housing projects in Watts. At Jordan Downs alone, there have been 14 murders since 2000 and an average of a violent crime every day and a half, the highest rate of crime of any public housing project in Los Angeles. In an effort to stop the flow of blood, the LAPD has plans to install surveillance cameras throughout the 700-unit complex. The project’s 2,400 residents are not thrilled with the idea. “I wouldn’t want the LAPD to watch me day to day,” offered resident David Valencia. “Mexicans and blacks don’t usually agree on anything. But none of us want to be watched.” “This isn’t about Big Brother,” said Police Commission Vice President Alan Skobin. Added the LAPD’s George Gascon, “Cameras are as much a part of policing now as handcuffs.”
Karmaboy Klueless: A very simple librul who ignores all facts, especially when they are in front of him. He gets migraines, nausea, vomiting, and vertigo! You ain’t black, you have no idea what happens in the inner city, and the best part, you prove your ignorance each and every time you type something on this blog.
Goldy, you should censure some of your ASSHeads postings, as they make you look bad as the blogmaster ASSHEad! You can even edit them with URLs to try and improved their quality as they attempt to make their points.
For Karmaboy Klueless: http://www.amren.com/mtnews/ar.....caname.php
“The conspiracy charge alleges that the defendants attacked numerous African-American residents of Highland Park and murdered Kenneth Kurry Wilson in 1999 and Christopher Bowser the next year. The second count of the indictment alleges that the four defendants who participated in Wilson’s murder did so because Wilson was African-American and because he was using the public streets of Los Angeles. The final count of the indictment charges the same four defendants with using a firearm during the commission of a conspiracy and hate crimes.
Sounds like a latino lynching to me! Now Daddy_Love you see why I want a illegal immigrant policy? When you walk a month as an inner city black man always looking over your shoulder, come back and talk to me!
Daddy_Love: Again I will ask you, in today’s society how will abstinence programs work with the sexual imagery on TV. Did you miss the Osama tape where he said he’s pissed at America because of our decadent society? Who promotes the decadent society of anything goes. Your hippie parents started it and your librul generation forments it today! Now Karmaboy will say where did he say that? I told Karmaboy to visit the Al Jazeera site because the MSM supports the decadent society along with your buds the ACLU.
For the Karma Klueless: Ad-hominem
You are white. You have NEVER LIVED in an inner city tenement. You have NEVER SEEN drug deals in the inner city. You have NEVER WATCHED someone get stabbed in real life. I have. My second cousin on momma’s side is a Lieutenant in the Philadelphia police force. Momma’s mother’s and my cuz’ grandmother mother are sisters! I have first hand knowledge jackASS of latino gangs taking over black turf.
None of these assertions support the argument that African-american communities are under significant assault from latino gangs. Documented third-party evidence with statistical support is needed here.
The MSM won’t print it because in reality it’s one minority killing another minority and unless it affects white libruls in the pocketbook or their physical space it’s not news.
No documented evidence is provided to support this assertion.
Unlike Goldy who grew up in lily white burbs, I gave you Google maps where I grew up in Philadelphia. So I ask again, why don’t white libruls care what happens in the inner city to their largest voting block?
No documented evideence is provided to support this assertion.
If we conservatives could only get the right message out without the Jesse Jackson’s polluting it and pandering to you guys!
No support is offered for these assertions.
Remember Karmaboy, I posted a link last week that proved John Forbes Kerry didn’t care about blacks until he paid off Jesse Jackson at the 11th hour to try and save his campaign with black voters. And where was it from?
This bares little to no relevance to the assertion that african-american communities are under significant assault from latino gangs.
Your MSM!
No documented evidence is provided to support the assertion that I own or control any outlet of the mainstream media.
Again you close those facts out of your mind!
Ad-hominem.
Hey Karmaboy: Look who’s taken residence in New Orleans:
http://www.nola.com/news/t-p/n.....218460.xml
Puddybud
Yes, Abu Ghraib, Guantanomo bay, secret east European prisons, and elsewhere in the world. The is plenty of evidence that innocents have been swept up, abused, tortured, and killed in these places.
AR 15-6 Investigation of the Abu Ghraib Detention Facility and 205th Military Intelligence Brigade
by Major General George R. Fay
August 2004, 142 pp.
Genral Fay says that failure “to perform the proper procedures at the point-of-capture and beyond…contributed to facility overcrowding, an increased drain on scarce interrogator and linguist resources to sort out the valuable detainees from innocents who should have been released soon after capture…”
Documents released in response to a federal court order that directed the Defense Department and other government agencies to comply with a year-old request under the Freedom of Information Act filed by the ACLU, the Center for Constitutional Rights, Physicians for Human Rights, Veterans for Common Sense and Veterans for Peace included sworn statements from a former commander of the 320th Military Police Battalion who says, “It became obvious to me that the majority of our detainees were detained as the result of being in the wrong place at the wrong time, and were swept up by Coalition Forces as peripheral bystanders during raids. I think perhaps only one in ten security detainees were of any particular intelligence value.” According to another report, Lt. Gen. Ricardo Sanchez allegedly said of the detainees, “Why are we detaining these people, we should be killing them.”
Remember, NONE fo these people have been charged with or found guilty of any crime. But you don’t require any proof of guilt, though, do you? The mere fact of arrest is enough for you to approve the most heinous abuse. I feel so sorry for you. You have no humanity.
Closed minded Karmaboy Klueless: Yes, ignore the evidence, You can live in DJ’s small intellectual prison! Since DJ claims I live in PuddyWorld, a world where I can use the Internet to prove my world; Karmaboy lives in CluelessWorld, where no one cares about your name because everyone ignores factual evidence! Living in CluelessWorld is your only hope to escape facts because they give migraines, nausea, causes vomiting and vertigo!
Did I say you own the MSM? It’s a metaphor. In CluelessWorld they don’t understand metaphors.
Puddybud
Sorry, pal, but do you think we invented sex in 2000 or something?
Abstinence-only education does not work, and that’s a fact. Admit it. Admit it. Admit it.
If what you postulate is that in your dream world of universal censorship it would, well, i think that’s something for you to discuss with your analyst.
Immigration is a tough problem. It pretty clearly is NOT solely a law enforcement problem. To wit:
illegal immigrants make up 36% of insulation workers, 29% of roofers, 27% of butchers and food-processing workers (think meat-packing), 22% of maids and housekeepers, 19% of parking lot attendants (today’s P-I). We can’t arrest or send home significant numbers of our illegla immigrants without major economic dislocation.
Personally, while I support strong enforcement (though not the stupid fence idea) toward ALL illegla immigrants, including the white ones, I don’t believe that people who have lived, worked and paid taxes in the US for decades should be summarily deported, but instead should be encouraged and helped to become citizens (again including the white ones).
Closed minded Karmaboy Klueless:
ad-hominem
Yes, ignore the evidence, You can live in DJ’s small intellectual prison! Since DJ claims I live in PuddyWorld,
Changing the subject.
a world where I can use the Internet to prove my world; Karmaboy lives in CluelessWorld, where no one cares about your name because everyone ignores factual evidence!
ad-homimen
Living in CluelessWorld is your only hope to escape facts because they give migraines, nausea, causes vomiting and vertigo!
ad-hominem
Did I say you own the MSM? It’s a metaphor. In CluelessWorld they don’t understand metaphors.
Metaphors are a literary device, a rhetorical figure of speech that should have a limited role in reasoned debate. An assertion was made that the MSM was owned, controlled or possessed in some fashion: “Your MSM”. This assertion is false.
Here is a non-ad-hominen attack Karmaboy: You should change you name from For the Clueless to For Myself. Your lack of counter-arguments and claims of ad-hominen attacks only prove your arguments are specious!
Here is a non-ad-hominen attack Karmaboy: What about the facts provided my the links? Ad-hominem because they demonstrate your lack of knowledge? Ad-hominem because you have no counter-argument!
Here is an ad-hominen attack Karmaboy: The holiday day you look forward to is Next Saturday April 1st. It’s a celebration of your kind! Fools!
Remember, NONE of these people have been charged with or found guilty of any crime. But you do not require any proof of guilt, though, do you? The mere fact of arrest is enough for you to approve the most heinous abuse. I feel so sorry for you. You have no humanity.
Commentby Daddy Love— 3/26/06@ 10:22 am
Daddy Love how much compassion and humanity did Bin laden show New Yorkers when his friends drop into the city. The biggest problem in Iraq is sending you friends to an Iraqi prison and they show up in the battlefield three months latter. Today if the chaps have a weapon and shooting at someone, they are dead. They are hit so hard and fast they do not get a chance to surrender to anyone. Now you solved the human rights problem and you do not get to fight them on any other given day. We all know you support terrorist and really do not give a dame about your own fellow citizens so quite say you support the troops. Now this nation could be going into Iran now tell us is there a WMD program in Iran? If we go into Iran and find no WMD, will you blame Bush for your bad intelligent? No, you are a bunch of armchair Generals with the world greatest hindsight. You all take no risks and you run when the bullets start to fly. That is all right by me you are part of the weaker gene pool. Yes, I do not mind saving your sorry asses because life would be dull without you clowns.
If the wall is Bush’s idea, it’s purpose probably is to keep Americans out of Mexico so they won’t take $1.25-a-day auto assembly jobs from Mexicans. Vicente Fox must have cut a deal with Bush to supply $1.25-a-day mercenaries for the invasion of Iran. Of course, Bush & Buddies, NLP,* will charge U.S. taxpayers $1,000 a day for these “private security contractors” under no-bid contracts, but $998.75 of that is mark-up.
* NLP = No Liability Partnership. Pays no taxes, either. No SEC filings. No accounting or books. Just pure profit.
Here is a non-ad-hominen attack Karmaboy: You should change you name from For the Clueless to For Myself.
ad-hominem
Your lack of counter-arguments and claims of ad-hominen attacks only prove your arguments are specious!
No support for this assertion.
Here is a non-ad-hominen attack Karmaboy: What about the facts provided my the links?
It has been pointed out that the facts are weak support for the argument if not completely irrelevant to what is begin argued.
Ad-hominem because they demonstrate your lack of knowledge? Ad-hominem because you have no counter-argument!
ad-hominem.
Here is an ad-hominen attack Karmaboy: The holiday day you look forward to is Next Saturday April 1st. It’s a celebration of your kind! Fools!
ad-hominem again.
Suggestion: what is being argued here? In the stream of invective, it’s easy to lose track. Then perhaps we can engage in a reasoned debate free of ad-hominem and other logical fallacies.
Flaky Klake @80
“The biggest problem in Iraq is sending you friends to an Iraqi prison and they show up in the battlefield three months latter.”
Prove it. (Note: klake has consistently proved to be one of the biggest liars on HA.) (Note 2: The International Red Cross estimated that in excess of 90% of the victims of Abu Ghraib torture were innocent Iraqi civilians who were arrested by mistake and had no intelligence information of any value.)
Wingnut liars like “klake” know nothing, they simply copy-and-past the Bullshit of the Day from right-wing web sites. And we all know where the BD comes from. The paid propagandists of the right simply make that shit up.
Mark the Moron-
P-Dookie-
Selfish corporate shill and FAKE black guy…wow. I’m sceeeeeeeered of youse guys. Ooooooh Pleeeeease don’t hurt me! Dog fuckers.
FtC is aboslutely right…it’s like the flypaper theory “keep the idiots occupied here and they won’t gave time to fuck something up for real”.
Contemptuous assholes. Your fellow travellers rufus, yo, and jch too.
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“how much compassion and humanity did Bin laden show New Yorkers when his friends drop into the city.”
This comment illustrates how wingnuts like klake are echo-chambers for right-wing lies. IRAQ HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH BIN LADEN OR 9/11. The Bush/neocon lies about an Iraq connection to 9/11 have been debunked so many times it’s not worth debating. Neocon propagandists think if they repeat their bullshit enough times, people will believe it. But as we are seeing from Bush’s sinking poll ratings, the more they lie, the more people see through their lies.
Lie..lielielielielielie.
You fucks got anything else, or is that it?
I see in today’s Seattle Times that impeachment is gaining traction in parts of the country. And a growing number of constitutional scholars are publicly saying Bush has committed impeachable offenses. But many Democratic congressmen continue to resist the idea of impeachment proceedings because they believe it plays into the GOP’s hands going into an election year. http://seattletimes.nwsource.c.....ach26.html
80 – klake’s lies (continued)
“Today if the chaps have a weapon and shooting at someone, they are dead. They are hit so hard and fast they do not get a chance to surrender to anyone.”
If this was true, the war would have been over 2 1/2 years ago. (Note to self: Apply for federal grant to study how it’s possible for someone to get his head so far up his rectum.)
80 klake’s lies (continued)
“We all know you support terrorist and really do not give a dame about your own fellow citizens”
Where do you get this harebrained idea of yours that we vote for Republicans?
80 klake’s lies (continued)
“Now this nation could be going into Iran”
Don’t forget Syria.
80 klake’s lies (continued)
“If we go into Iran and find no WMD, will you blame Bush for your bad intelligent?”
No, we’ll blame Bush for HIS bad intelligence (both kinds).
We (the People) can talk about it (censure and impeachment) so they (our Congressional minority) don’t have to. “Just Win Baby!” in November…then our folks will have all the cover they need.
Even is BushCo ™ is NOT impeached…we MUST drag their lies, corruption, incompetence and COMPLETE (and utter) disregard for the Constitution and the American People into the daylight.
Where the hell did klake get his harebrained idea that all this shit resulted from OUR intelligence? None of this shit (9/11, Iraq quagmire, torture scandal, etc.) would have happened if OUR intelligence had been running things.
People like klake and Bush have no intelligence, that’s the whole fucking problem. An eggplant has more brains than all of them put together.
80 klake’s lies (continued)
“You all take no risks”
We don’t think it’s a good idea to jump off a bridge to see if we can fly. We don’t object to Republicans jumping off bridges to see if they can fly — the more, the merrier! — but we do object to Republicans throwing other people’s children off bridges they won’t jump off themselves.
80 klake’s lies (continued)
“you run when the bullets start to fly”
Let’s see, of the 10 Iraq War veterans running for Congress this year, 9 are Democrats and 1 is a Republican. Both of the Medal of Honor recipients who have served in Congress in recent years are Democrats. Nearly all of the GOP leadership avoided serving in Vietnam. I could go on, but this statement is so palpably a lie, it’s sufficient to simply say that Republicans are pretty much cowards across the board when it comes to real war. The Warmonger Party is also the Coward Party.
Roger and Gang this chap has a better view than you do from Seattle about what is going on in Iraq. Read the whole dispatch, and maybe you will understand what is going on in other parts of the world.
http://www.michaelyon-online.c.....f-fire.htm
That December day, Khalid Jasim Nohe and two compatriots tried to evade US soldiers from 2-8 FA, but the soldiers managed to stop the fleeing car. Then one of the suspects tried to wrestle a weapon from a soldier before all three were detained. They were armed with a sniper rifle, an AK, pistols, a silencer, explosives and other weapons, and had in their possession photographs of US bases, including a map of this base.
That was in December.
About two weeks ago, word came that Nohe’s case had been dismissed by a judge on 7 August. The Coalition was livid. According to American officers, solid cases are continually dismissed without apparent cause. Whatever the reason, the result was that less than two weeks after his release from Abu Ghraib, Nohe was back in Mosul shooting at American soldiers.
LTC Kurilla repeatedly told me of – and I repeatedly wrote about – terrorists who get released only to cause more trouble. Kurilla talked about it almost daily. Apparently, the vigor of his protests had made him an opponent of some in the Army’s Detention Facilities chain of command, but had otherwise not changed the policy. And now Kurilla lay shot and in surgery in the same operating room with one of the catch-and-release-terrorists he and other soldiers had been warning everyone about
80 klake’s lies (continued)
“Yes, I do not mind saving your sorry asses because life would be dull without you clowns.”
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Folks — sorry about the long post, but of all klake’s lies, that one was a rib-splitter!!!
Hey klake, you should be a comedian, tell us that one AGAIN!!!
HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR …
Thanks Rog, for all your “hard work” (I-i-i-it’s H-h-h-hard work being Preznit. H-h-h-ard work!) countering klake’s juvenile meanderings.
Too bad he’s developmentally disabled (profoundly republicanated) and won’t be able to comprehend what you’re saying. GREAT job as always, anyway!
Here, I’ll do it … “I do not mind saving your sorry asses because life would be dull without you clowns.” HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR WHOOP HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR CHORTLE HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HEE HEE HAW HOO HAR HAR HA HEE HO HA HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR
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klake is a mechanical talking dummy for right-wing blogs
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Hey klake, you stupid shit, some of the Iraqis are trying to oust the foreign troops who invaded and occupied their country, and killed their women and children. Isn’t that amazing! I would do exactly the same thing if Iraqi troops invaded and occupied the U.S., and killed our women and children. Wouldn’t you?
Nah, you’d head for Canada.
What’s really amazing is the BushCONS were stupid enough to think they could subdue a country of 26 million people with a force of 120,000 troops (counting support and logistics troops, and cooks and drivers). Their own generals told me this was stupid, it would never work. But the force level was fixed around the politics, and the BushCON idiots figured they could lie their way to “victory.”
Roger and Gang is your past still haunting you, and is that affecting your decisions making today. This war is not Vietnam so try getting over it and start getting a life.
http://www.historyplace.com/un.....-1965.html
March 12, 1968 – By a very slim margin of just 300 votes, President Johnson defeats anti-war Democrat Eugene McCarthy in the New Hampshire Democratic primary election. This indicates that political support for Johnson is seriously eroding.
Public opinion polls taken after the Tet Offensive revealed Johnson’s overall approval rating has slipped to 36 percent, while approval of his Vietnam war policy slipped to 26 percent.
March 14, 1968 – Senator Robert F. Kennedy offers President Johnson a confidential political proposition. Kennedy will agree to stay out of the presidential race if Johnson will renounce his earlier Vietnam strategy and appoint a committee, including Kennedy, to chart a new course in Vietnam. Johnson spurns the offer.
March 16, 1968 – Robert F. Kennedy announces his candidacy for the presidency. Polls indicate Kennedy is now more popular than the President.
During his campaign, Kennedy addresses the issue of his participation in forming President John F. Kennedy’s Vietnam policy by stating, “past error is no excuse for its own perpetuation.”
March 16, 1968 – Over 300 Vietnamese civilians are slaughtered in My Lai hamlet by members of Charlie Company, 1st Battalion, 20th Infantry U.S. Army, while participating in an airborne assault against suspected Viet Cong encampments in Quang Ngai Province. Upon entering My Lai and finding no Viet Cong, the Americans begin killing every civilian in sight, interrupted only by helicopter pilot Hugh Thompson who lands and begins evacuating civilians after realizing what is happening.
March 28, 1968 – The initial report by participants at My Lai states that 69 Viet Cong soldiers were killed and makes no mention of civilian causalities.
The My Lai massacre is successfully concealed for a year, until a series of letters from Vietnam veteran Ronald Ridenhour spark an official Army investigation that results in Charlie Company Commander, Capt. Ernest L. Medina, First Platoon Leader, Lt. William Calley, and 14 others being brought to trial by the Army. A news photos of the carnage, showing a mass of dead children, women and old men, remains one of the most enduring images of America’s involvement in Vietnam.
The BushCON amateur armchair generals overruled the real generals, and this is what we got. http://www.thememoryhole.org/w.....tos/dover/
Karmaboy For the Clueless: If your argument made sense, Rabbit Pellet would have said something against my posts. He didn’t. Nuff Said! Now he will to support you, cecause he will feel sorry for you. Watch this thread soon!
Karmaboy asked “What is being argued here?” Inner City Latino gangs taking over Inner City Black Gang turf. You have not posted one counter-argument. URLs Karmaboy. URL! Your only claim is ad-hominem attacks. Even Rabbit Pellet didn’t attack my posts!
I wrote: The MSM won’t print it because in reality it’s one minority killing another minority and unless it affects white libruls in the pocketbook or their physical space it’s not news.
Karmaboy Clueless answered me: “No documented evidence is provided to support this assertion.” Uhhh, yes, I provided at least three URL earlier last week. Go back and find them because I don’t have to prove anything to you Karmaboy! Hint: Minneapolis, Philadephia!
Karmaboy Clueless, I want you on my debate team. When the opponents lay down their facts I want you to blurt out “Ad hominem attacks!”
You have been tagged and bagged Karmaboy! Have a good day. I am through with you. Must get ready to go to my next city to make $$$$$$$$$ while Karmaboy will look at his kids and admit he’s glad they got their mother’s disposition!!!
oops because not cecause!
Their blood is on your hands, klake, because you voted for these idiots and parrot the propaganda that keeps them in power. If you were a real American, you would be working for impeaching the lying traitor in the White House.
Shorter P-Shitty:
“Lielielielielielielielielielielielielielielielielielielielie!!”
Roger did you take part in the events above and kept you mouth shut? Was it really a Democrat who put us in Vietnam War and not Richard Nixon? You seem to make Republicans the villain all the time.
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What’s your point, klake? Are you 15 years old? I not only remember Vietnam, I fought there. Anyone who was old enough in 1968 to read a comic book knows it was the RIGHT WINGERS who tried to cover up the My Lai massacre and it’s the RIGHT WINGERS who villified heroes like Ron Ridenour and CWO Thompson, just as they attacked and villified the brave people who exposed the Bushies’ dirty Abu Ghraib secrets. It’s the RIGHT WINGERS in military uniform who commit the atrocities and tortures, and then lie about it. What you see in these reports and photographs is what RIGHT WINGERS do when they’re allowed to hide behind a police badge, military uniform, or public office.
Before I forget, klake is a nazi
Putty butt @ various
I’ll deal with you later. I’m busy right now. You’re not worth my time, little flea. You’re too insignificant to concern myself with. I’ll swat you when I get around to it.
In case I forgot to mention it, Puttybutt is a nazi too
Roger you are guilty by association, and guilty by your own admissions.
What is your point, klake? Are you 15 years old? I not only remember Vietnam, I fought there. Anyone who was old enough in 1968 to read a comic book knows it was the RIGHT WINGERS
Comment by Roger Rabbit— 3/26/06@ 11:42 am
If I am the best hope the GOP has, then Dems win by a landslide because I am retarded, fuck my sister and hate America, my name is Klake.
Rabbit Pellet: I look forward to you looking up URLs that refute black/latino gang wars. You’ll be so out of your element the gnats will be attacking your fleas on your armadillo!
But before I go time to bag and tag the rabbit. Your only claim to right-wing coverup is Nixon pardoning Calley and allowing him to speak on the lecture circuit.
You know Rabbit Pellet, it took a lot of courage to take a stand and do what Thompson did in Vietnam. Maybe John Forbes Kerry could have learned from his example. HA HA HA HA HA!
Roger and Gang you do support this type of prison just because we invade their country over WMD and it was all a lie? They were just defending their country and they had a right to live under tyrant and the biggest mass murder since Adolf Hitler…
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11923817/
20 reportedly dead as U.S., Iraqis battle militia
Interior Ministry officials arrested after hostages found in secret prison
MSNBC News Services
Updated: 2:43 p.m. ET March 26, 2006
U.S. troops mounted two raids against Iraqi Shiite forces in Baghdad on Sunday, killing up to 20 gunmen in a raid on a radical mosque, and arresting more than 40 Interior Ministry personnel guarding a secret prison.
Details were sketchy but the two operations looked like U.S. strikes against sectarian Shiite militias of the kind the U.S. ambassador said on Saturday must be eliminated if Iraq is to form a unity government and halt a slide toward civil war.
KLake you have to remember the heartless bastards you are dealing with on ASSHeads. As I remember, only Daddy_Love wished you good luck on your glaucoma operation. None of these other librul ASSheads oops… ASSHoles would say a thing. It proves how heartless the librul bastards are! Racist, black men hating, Jewish women hating, glaucoma opponent hating (say it like the baby in Meet the Fokkers) asssssssss-hoooooolessss!
Rabbit Pellet: Do you remember how we on the right wished you well on your convalescence last year? That’s the real different between libruls and conservatives. Even though we do not agree with your politics, we don’t wish ill upon you when you are down!
Where was the reciprocal response on KLake and his glaucoma problem? Nary a peep, nary a peep except from Daddy Love!!!
RanciButtPutty@122 GTreat Stuff! Pure Psychosis. Keep it up. Generations of clinicians will thank you for such a vivid study of fulblown delusional thinking.
Sorry, Saddam was out done by Pol Pot but you could not get count the bodies and the bad people (CIA) could be providing bad information again. Roger and Gang did you support that chap also because we bomb their country indiscriminately.But you should know Roger you were there when it took place in Cambodian.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pol_Pot
Thousands of politicians and bureaucrats accused of association with previous governments were killed, while Phnom Penh was turned into a ghost city with many dying of starvation, illnesses, or execution. Land mines, which Pol Pot praised as his “perfect soldiers,” were widely distributed around the countryside. The casualty list from the civil war, Pol Pot’s consolidation of power, and the invasion by Vietnam is disputed. Credible Western and Eastern sources [1] put the death toll of the Khmer Rouge at 1.6 million. A specific source, such as a figure of three million deaths between 1975 and 1979 was given by the Vietnamese-sponsored Phnom Penh regime, the PRK. Father Ponchaud suggested 2.3 million—although this includes hundreds of thousands who died prior to the CPK takeover; the Yale Cambodian Genocide Project[2] estimates 1.7 million; Amnesty International estimated 1.4 million; and the United States Department of State, 1.2 million. Khieu Samphan and Pol Pot, who could be expected to give underestimations, cited figures of 1 million and 800,000, respectively. The CIA estimated that there were 50,000 to 100,000 executions.
I think we should resurrect Newtie Gingrich’s slogan “Had Enough?” for the 2006 elections. That’ll just tip top the tidal wave. If not, just keep checking RancidButtPutty’s “skidmarks” here on the comment threads and that’ll convince you to vote democratic.
And just an interesting article:
The Constitution does not specify the size of the Supreme Court; instead, Congress has the power to fix the number of Justices. Originally, the total number of Justices was set at six by the Judiciary Act of 1789. As the country grew geographically, the number of Justices steadily increased. The court was expanded to seven members in 1807, nine in 1837 and ten in 1863. In 1866, however, Congress wished to deny President Andrew Johnson any Supreme Court appointments, and therefore passed the Judicial Circuits Act, which provided that the next three Justices to retire would not be replaced; thus, the size of the Court would eventually reach seven by attrition. Consequently, one seat was removed in 1866 and a second in 1867. By the Circuit Judges Act of 1869, the number of Justices was again set at nine (the Chief Justice and eight Associate Justices), where it has remained ever since.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S....._the_court
This means that the US still has a chance to reverse the inept way that this country is heading. If the Democrats can take control of Congress, they can then increase the number of Justices on the SCOTUS to water down the NEOCON Factor that has been damaging our nation for the past few decades.
And now, from the Pure Geniuses that brought you an Illegal, Unwinnable war in Iraq, and the massive Deconstruction of the Gulf Coast (Guess the Republicans felt Grant hadn’t quite done enough in his ‘March to the Sea’) We bring you ‘How to piss off the entire Hispanic Culture in one smooth Ex-Lax Move’>
Puddybud @ 122, if you would be able to maintain your focus on what you are doing, saying and reading (very difficult for you I am sure) you would have noticed that I also wished Klake well. If it would have been you….now that would be a totally different story.
The amazing thing about this Immigration/Illegal Debacle for the Neoconvicts is that it started out as a move to pander to their Base , who are probably only 26 % of the voting population. Compare that to the Hispanic Base.
Ex Lax Move — is that copyrighted? I know some kids who would grab it for their band – retro music.
Remeber the immigrant population is much more than Current Illegal Latinos.
First tier descendants, and all the non – Mexicans. Canadians, etc.
Bush is going to get chewed up by his own far right. Wedding made in helll. Thanks to Satan.
Good slogan at a uninal — Cheney / Satan 2008
Karmaboy For the Clueless:
ad-hominen.
If your argument made sense, Rabbit Pellet would have said something against my posts. He didn’t. Nuff Said! Now he will to support you, cecause he will feel sorry for you. Watch this thread soon!
I haven’t made an argument yet. I’ve only pointed out the shortcomings in your own arguments which in my opinion are difficult to pick out from the large volume of ad-hominen invective. It doesn’t then follow that Roger Rabbit would say something against any of your posts because Roger Rabbit’s actions are completely independent of anything I do – your reasoning is fallacious.
Karmaboy asked
Ad-hominem
“What is being argued here?” Inner City Latino gangs taking over Inner City Black Gang turf.
We’re on some firmer footing now but I believe you’re making another false assertion. In reading over your posts, it appears you are condemning liberal minded people for the current immigration policy. Implictly you seem to support the current House bill that was protested in Los Angeles which provides funding for the construction of a 700 mile long security fence or wall at the border. Therefore you’re limiting the debate to something you feel you can score debate points on.
You have not posted one counter-argument. URLs Karmaboy. URL! Your only claim is ad-hominem attacks. Even Rabbit Pellet didn’t attack my posts!
True. Again I’m only pointing out the shortcomings in your argument at this stage. Again, Roger Rabbit’s actions are neither here nor there, i.e. irrelevant to any argument you’re trying to make.
I wrote: The MSM won’t print it because in reality it’s one minority killing another minority and unless it affects white libruls in the pocketbook or their physical space it’s not news. Karmaboy Clueless
ad-hominem
answered me: “No documented evidence is provided to support this assertion.” Uhhh, yes, I provided at least three URL earlier last week. Go back and find them because I don’t have to prove anything to you Karmaboy! Hint: Minneapolis, Philadephia!
Since you are making the argument, it’s incumbent on you to provide the support. But I believe you’re changing the subject to an assertion about media coverage. Provide the links and I’ll be happy to look at them – but they’re irrelevant IMO to any issue you’re trying to argue.
Karmaboy Clueless,
ad-hominem
I want you on my debate team.
Let’s be clear. I have NO desire to be on your debate team.
When the opponents lay down their facts I want you to blurt out “Ad hominem attacks!”
On a debate team I would have to judge whether or not the facts the opposition presents support their argument. If the opposition uses ad-hominem, I believe it would be incumbent upon me to point that out so the judges could make a determination and mark down the opposition. If my debate team leader told me to blurt something out in a knee-jerk fashion, I would resign from the debate team.
You have been tagged and bagged Karmaboy!
No one in the course of this dialog has applied a physical tag to me or placed my physical person in a bag. You are making a false assertion.
Have a good day. I am through with you.
You reserve the right to abandon your arguments and therefore concede the debate.
ad-hominem. In a debate you’re marked down for fallacious reasoning. Ad-hominem is fallacious.
BfB@131 Actually it makes a good bumper sticker CHENEY/ SATAN in 2006. That’s right up there with the Bush/Noriega stickers I saw in ’91.
it appears you are condemning liberal minded people for the current immigration policy.
Clarification. You are condemning liberal minded people for their stands on immigration policy and in effect arguing those stands harm African-American communities which have supported the Democratic party.
For the Clueless: Whatever! You have to frame the argument to work in your tiny little librul mind – Oh no ad-hominem attack.
Karmaboy, you crack me up. You whip out the ad-hominem attack when yor argument needs polishing. Most attacks here are ad-hominem. Everything rudejacks says is ad-hominem. So now, we too will call ad-hominem atack for everything your side now pronounces!
Cougar, so sorry I missed you saying something nice for a change! You speaking kindly hardly ever happens that when you reminded me it came back. Didn’t you say you had a relative with glaucoma?
One of my best friends in Puerto Rico. He lost the vision in one eye because of the tremendous pressure attained. He is doing well under the circumstances. Very high chance it could have been prevented….but with Insurance costs so high and his doctor demanding payment up front for any remedies, he took his chances and lost 50% of his eye sight.
So For the Clueless let’s start with post #40. Where did I make false assertions? You leaving the bed with a frown or Libruls are an unhappy bunch. I’ll take that frown back. You leave it crying!
The issue of Rudejacks is all ad-hominem attacks Nothing new or even clever.
Come on For the Clueless, where are the latino/black refutation points. Why are the latino gangs so virulent in their attacks? Why do we want this type of individual in the US? Kome on Karmaboy Klueless tell me.
Post #136 ad hominem attack against Puddy. The only skidmarks are the ones in your underwear TFF!
Oops post #126
135 – Do you have an argument there or are you just hurling more invective?
If all you want to do is hurl more invective feel free. In a scored debate you’ll lose every time.
See cougar, I remember when you jolted my memory. But where are the rest of the ASSHeads? Only two. Just like only four when horseless looselips when anal against PacMan!
Last time For the Klueless Karmaboy. Please post your argument with URLs (no speculation) on why latino gangs are not attacking black gangs on their turf and why we should accept latinos with open arms when it costs $10Billion to the California economy each year?
I am waiting?
For the Klueless Karmaboy: Please post your argument on why the MSM doesn’t think black on black crime is newsworthy but when the crime appears in white librul neighborhoods it is plastered all over the place. Please deliver URLs (no speculation)!
btw, Puddybud, how many of your neocon buddies mentioned the situation? None other than yourself that I can see, and this blog is made up of a fair amount of wingnuts! Or are all of the wingnuts just Puddybud under his various names?
Most of my conservative buddies don’t argue things they don’t have direct contact with. When Cynical speaks of city and county issues, I barely write about his comments. Why? I’ve only been here 13 years!
Maybe they are out with their buddies. I have been home painting today about to leave for the airport!
Cougar, please help out Karmaboy. Help him with good URLs.
No ad hominem attacks TFF or rudejacks!
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“Where was the reciprocal response on KLake and his glaucoma problem? Nary a peep, nary a peep except from Daddy Love!!!” Commentby Puddybud— 3/26/06@ 12:28 pm
That’s news to me. I didn’t know about it. You assume I read all the threads and comments. I don’t.
Hey klake, get well soon, you fucking nazi! We don’t want you to die on us, or anything, because then we wouldn’t be able to kick you around anymore.
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“Have a good day. I am through with you.”
Which one of the cut-and-run wingnut cowards is fleeing from HorsesAss this time? Man, the wingers sure have a hard time finding anybody on their side who can stand up to a fight. What a bunch of mama’s boys.
KLake: Go back and see when you talked about your glaucoma and didn’t Rabbit Pellet post before and after?
No Rabbit Pellet I have a flight to catch!
142 –
Please post your argument with URLs (no speculation) on why latino gangs are not attacking black gangs on their turf
You’re debating in bad faith. I never said they weren’t. I just said you’ve provided no substantial evidence that African-American communities are under severe threat from latino gangs. All gangs of any ethnic stripe attack other gangs when they have the muscle to do so. If latino gangs outnumber african-american gangs i manpower and firepower, of course they’ll jump on the opportunity. I’m sure Italian, Russian, Irish and even Jewish gangs throught our history have attacked African-American gangs.
Let’s go back to your original assertion:
Why are blacks being killed by Latino gangs in cities now a days. Why are black enclaves being fed with drugs from latino gangs? When crime attacks your favorite voting populace: Blacks in inner cities, nary a word.
Sentence 1 and 2 are undoubtedly true. They’ve been true since Columbians, Mexicans, Puerto Ricans and other latinos have made their mark in the drug trade in this country.
Sentence 3 does not follow. Remember Clinton’s crime bill? More money for community policing, etc.? Also remember that Republicans are in charge now and law enforcement energy has shifted to homeland security and counter-terrorism.
and why we should accept latinos with open arms when it costs $10Billion to the California economy each year?
Now this is a more valid point to debate. Let’s say the 10 billion figure is true. Now how much does the California economy benefit from cheap latino labor? Buy any California produce from the supermarket lately? Why have California business owners hired undocumented workers?
We’ve got to ask more questions before we start slapping up a wall.
142 – Almost forgot:
Last time For the Klueless Karmaboy.
ad-hominem
137 – Sorry I missed that one but since 40 is mostly hurling insults I’ll pass on that one.
143 –
For the Klueless Karmaboy:
ad-hominem
Please post your argument on why the MSM doesn’t think black on black crime is newsworthy but when the crime appears in white librul neighborhoods it is plastered all over the place. Please deliver URLs (no speculation)!
You made the assertion – you haven’t supported it. You say you posted links. Please post links to your comments and I’ll be happy to take a look but is media coverage what we’re debating here or just a distraction?
You’re all over the place. Why don’t we focus on your biggest gripe and we’ll take it from there? Is it immigration policy? Are you fully in support of the House Bill? Do you think the 700 mile wall is a good solution to the undocumented immigration problem?
What are you trying to argue?
Roger and Gang what part of debate on letting illegals enter this country that you like, and would you support all these folks living here illegally.
Immigration debate set to heat up in Senate
Volatile, divisive issue comes to a head this week with protests, politics
WASHINGTON – Founded by immigrants and praised as a haven for the oppressed, the United States now is struggling to decide the fate of as many as 12 million people living in the country illegally.
The Senate takes up the emotional debate on the heels of weekend rallies that drew hundreds of thousands of people protesting attempts to toughen laws against immigrants. Among the ideas that President Bush and members of Congress are considering are the following:
• Erecting a fence on the Mexico border to deter illegal immigration.
• Treating people who sneak across the border as felons to be deported.
• Allowing foreigners to stay in the country legally as custodians, dish washers, construction workers and other low-paid employees.
• Allowing those working in the U.S. a path to citizenship.
• Requiring them to get in line behind everyone else back in their home countries who want to become Americans.
General Roger Rabbit how is your War Plans going to free Tibet, and allow them religious freedom. How is the sell of bumper stickers on Free Tibet going, and will there be enough money to pay for the War. Roger everyone is depending on you to make this miracle happen and China will love having that yoke remove from around their necks. What kind of discounts will you get from China after this War is over, and will you be received as heroes in the streets of Tibet? Roger can you make this happen without a single lost of life? WOW! You are the man. Let me see your reward will be all the pot you can smoke, and any virgin living in Tibet. That is a better deal than Bin Laden had been giving his troops and you do not have to blow yourself up in the process. Neat Roger and they will kiss all the bumper stickers in Seattle with joy over your Success. Come on Roger show us poor folks how you would conquer the world and make everyone jump with joy. What kind of government would you install in Tibet so everyone would be bursting with pride to serve under? General Roger is the Man of the Hour, Would all the folks in Seattle bow down in his present. Roger the Hare that would not quite. WOW the blinding light.
Roger got busted.
http://www.funpic.hu/en.picvie.....d&p=1
Kennedy was not driving that car.
http://www.funpic.hu/en.picvie.....d&p=1
geez klake…I know you just got a new keyboard but your posts STILL suck.
Cut it out.
Better yet…go HERE:
http://www.plucrs.blogspot.com/
…and bother somebody ELSE for a while. (I’ll give you a quarter if you’ll leave us alone!)
rujax206, if you gave him a quarter, he would probably give you 78 cents in return, not the brightest bulb in the christmas tree
MTR @ 2, if not for ‘knocked up ho’s’ coming to AMERICA, you would not exist here in these once great states!
One of the often-used comments about illegal aliens and the movement against illegal immigration is the old saw about illegals paying into social security but not receiving any benefits. That doesn’t say much for the social scurity system if it utilizes money taken from poor illegals to prop itself up.
Social Security:
1. Inferior returns.
2. Probable double taxation.
3. Uses funding from illegal aliens.