Talk about whatever the hell you want… just vote for Horse’s Ass for Best State or Local Blog. (That Bluegrass Report is kicking my butt! Do you really want HA to be beat by a blog from Kentucky?)
Can’t Bring Yourself to Type the Word “Ass”?
Eager to share our brilliant political commentary and blunt media criticism, but too genteel to link to horsesass.org? Well, good news, ladies: we also answer to HASeattle.com, because, you know, whatever. You're welcome!
This is what Seattle gets to look for with a new tunnel downtown.
http://video.google.com/videop.....6062807050
The Mayor overlooks all the benefits of a tunnel, clean up the local gene pool.
Roger Rabbit baby picture, cute?
http://video.google.com/videop.....3695080058
Commentby klake— 3/21/06@ 8:20 am
Well, you have to give the Minnow credit. He has taken a hard stance against first cousins marrying, which must piss off at least 90% of his board.
In states like Kentucky where you encourage 1st cousins to marry, you end up with a lot of LEFTIST activists who spend all day blogging and figuring out ways not to work for a living.
JDB–
It was your beloved Chairman Komrade KDewey KPelz who was the advocate for 1st cousins marrying you pinhead!!
What’s with it with you KLOWNS…you love sideshows.
1st cousins marrying, transgender rights……what’s next???
WaTF!!
Today’s PI editorial focuses on the key issue that loses Cantwell support from her expected base.
“If Cantwell is simply wedded to a stay-the-course strategy in Iraq, she’s lost touch with her constituents on the central foreign policy issue.”
“If, however, she recognizes that we’re in a quagmire that will continue to drain U.S. blood and treasure, Cantwell should bring a legitimate voice to the debate on how to best get out of Iraq.”
She could be forgiven for running with the pack on the war, she was the new kid then. But, her thumb-in-my-eye defense of her war vote and fantasy statements concering “our successes in Iraq” doesn’t make that easy to do.
I will likely suck it up and vote for her, but attacks against primary challenges and anti-war candidates make it harder for me to take the breath.
by Goldy, 03/21/2006, 9:25 AM
“That Bluegrass Report is kicking my butt! Do you really want HA to be beat by a blog from Kentucky?”
I guess the Kentucky schools do a better job of teaching how to use a comptuer than our schools do, even though they rank 40th in per pupil spending, while Washington ranks 33rd.
klake;
Enjoyed the video – where the heck did that other truck come from, anyway? I replayed it maybe six times, and it seems to appear out of nowhere. I was also amazed that after two trucks collide and roll, the first concern of the drivers behind them was th change lanes so they could go around the wreakage.
Other than that, its any other week on I-5. Prohibitions on lane-changes while in the tunnel, and DWI enforcement, should prevent a lot of the problems shown on the video. We already have bridges (520 and I-90) and tunnels (I-90 and Battery Street Tunnel) which could have similar problems, but actually experience them at a much lower frequency than the Russians seem to have experienced.
That being said, I would love to see a tunnel built for ascetic purposes (better sound views from downtown, and especially a much quieter waterfront). But somebody first has to convince me that it wouldn’t flood in an earthquake.
As for the money, the penny-pinching in this state when it comes to public works projects is very short-sighted. I am amazed that in the 1970’s we built a stadium that only lasted 25 years, a Seattle municipal building was built from a Florida blueprint because it was cheaper, we are still struggling to build a real public transportation system.
If today’s residents were put in charge of the Seattle of yester-year, their would be no water outlet between Lake Washington and the Puget Sound, Green Lake would never have been made into a Park, the Univ. of Washington wouldn’t exist at all, and we would still have toilets that would flush in reverse when the tide came in, all because “We cannot afford the taxes” for public improvements.
I came to this state a quarter-century ago from a state that truly had economic problems and couldn’t afford needed public improvements, but the relative wealth in this state coupled with the unwillingness to spend a trifle for public improvements still baffles me!
The five year delay in beginning work on the Viaduct is criminal and another year of hemming and hawing will make the crime worse.
There’s probably not enough money available to replace the above ground structure, if the 8-1/2% percent per year increase in the cost of building materials continues. Double any cost estimate, and expect a tunnel to take twice the time estimated.
Replace the Viaduct.
Commentby rhp6033— 3/21/06@ 9:59 am
“I am amazed that in the 1970’s we built a stadium that only lasted 25 years”
You do realize that the Kingdome was profitable for King County for a long while, but King County completely mismanaged it. The economics of sports also drove the Kingdome out of existence. Teams want a stadium that only their sport was played in so they increase revenue from premium seat and luxury box sales. Pittsburgh, Cincinati, and Philadelphia also built multipurpose stadiums in the 70s that have been demolished in the last few years. All had a similar lifespan to the Kingdome. This isn’t a phenomenon unique to Seattle.
Cynical: you have to excuse JDB. The Pelz reference was not in the Daily Kos, Media Matters, Think Progress, Moore.org, MoveOn.org, or the other lefty bullshit rags JustDumbBozo reads.
Blue Grass Report? Has anyone actually ever seen real BLUE Grass?
At least a Horse’s Ass is a real thing!
Horseless Looselips: Say after me: “Richard Clarke personally ordered the Bin Laden family out of the US!” “Richard Clarke personally ordered the Bin Laden family out of the US!” “Richard Clarke personally ordered the Bin Laden family out of the US!” “Richard Clarke personally ordered the Bin Laden family out of the US!” “Richard Clarke personally ordered the Bin Laden family out of the US!” “Richard Clarke personally ordered the Bin Laden family out of the US!”
There. That should do it!
Robert: Every time For the Clueless, Cougar, Rujax, Tree Fog Farmer, and Donnageddon look in the mirror they view a Horse’s ASS as their reflection!
Wrongboy and Ms. Chickenhawk:
I see the attack on cousins marrying is hitting close to home. Do you both have smoething to get off your chest? Since neither of you leave your Mom’s basement, I assume it has something to do with your parents?
Actually, this might explain people like Wrongboy and Ms. Chickenhawk:
A longitudinal study suggests whiny kids grow up to be conservative. They “turned into rigid young adults who hewed closely to traditional gender roles and were uncomfortable with ambiguity. The confident kids turned out liberal and were still hanging loose, turning into bright, non-conforming adults with wide interests.” The authors suspect “insecure kids look for the reassurance provided by tradition and authority,” whereas “the more confident kids are eager to explore alternatives.” This matches a 2003 analysis that suggested “people who are dogmatic, fearful, [and] intolerant of ambiguity … are more likely to gravitate to conservatism.”
http://www.slate.com/id/2138331/
Just as an FYI: we have plenty of horse’s asses in Kentucky, both literally and figuratively. :-D
Those of us who CAN read have to work extra hard to make up for the Kentuckians that can’t. That’s why The Bluegrass Report makes such great reading. Besides, it led me to THIS site, didn’t it?
Sarah G
Goldy–
I’ve adapted another Brad Paisley favorite…this one is entitled “Alcohol”…to explain your delusionary state. I would like to entitle it “Alco-Blog”:
I can make HorsesAss pretty.
I can make you believe Goldy’s lies.
I can make scrawny KLOWNS pick a fight with somebody twice their size.
Well, I’ve been known to float some false rumors,
An’ I’ve been known to cause Hepatitis C.
Well, I can make you new gay friends, or get you fired from work.
And since the day I left Milwaukee,
Lynchburg an’ Bordeaux, France,
Been making the bars lots of big money,
An’ helpin’ white people dance.
I got you in trouble in High School,
But College, now that was a ball.
You had some of the best times you’ll never remember with me:
Alco-Blog; Alcoh-Blog.
I got blamed at Goldy’s coming out reception,
For his life-partnerss embarrassing speech.
And also for those naked pictures of you at the beach.
I’ve influenced Sims and McDimwit,
I helped Cornholey write like he did.
And I’ll bet you a drink or two, that I can make you put that lampshade on your head.
Cause since the day I left Milwaukee,
Lynchburg and Bordeaux, France,
I been making a fool out of folks just like you,
An’ helping white people dance.
I am medicine and I am poison,
I can help you up or make you fall.
You had some of the best times you’ll never remember with me:
Alco-Blog.
Yeah, since the day I left Milwaukee,
Lynchburg an’ Bordeaux, France,
Been making the bars lots of big money,
(Helpin’ white people dance.)
Yeah, I got Goldy in trouble in Gay Bars,
But blogging, now this is a ball.
You had some of the best times you’ll never remember with me:
Alco-Blog; Alco-Blog.
Congrats Goldy–
HorsesAss ===Alco-Blog (the Blog that makes more sense the more alcohol you consume!!!)
“I see the attack on cousins marrying is hitting close to home. Do you both have smoething to get off your chest? Since neither of you leave your Mom’s basement, I assume it has something to do with your parents?
Commentby JDB— 3/21/06@ 10:34 am”
So why is your lover-boy Komrade KDewey KPelz the force behind it happening??? KPelz loves Castro…and his 1st cousin!!!
Kevin Phillips, the former Republican strategist, author of the new book American Theocracy on Lou Dobbs last night:
PHILLIPS: …. But what’s happened to the Republican coalition in the last 10 years especially is it’s been moved more and more towards religious yardsticks. People who go to church. People who favor religion defining government. People who have just a whole set of concerns that go beyond economics.
One of the reasons I think we have kind of screwed up economic [policy] in some ways is that a lot of Americans have stopped worrying about the economy because they’re waiting for the second coming.
DOBBS: And you mean this quite literally?
PHILLIPS: I mean it quite literally.
DOBBS: You talk about 30 to 40 percent the electorate is caught up in scripture, exerting their influence, even power, over the White House and the Republican party. You’re comfortable that it’s that large a number of people, and that indeed that influence is felt that strongly within the White House?
PHILLIPS: Well, I think so. And it’s partly because a considerable number of Republicans and conservatives and evangelicals believe that religion should guide politics and they have no hesitation about pushing their view on a whole host of issues. Whether it be the biblical aspect of the Middle East or science on the White House.
What I find interesting is that all the other sites have been voted on in an organized fashion.
Until….. Goldy starts his “look at me, look at me” crap.
Now, crackpots such as donnageddon are voting 3, 4 and 5 times….
It’s nice to see washington state, democratic voting patterns being broadcast to the rest of the country.
I voted for BluegrassReport.org just out of spite.
Now, if you’d like to vote for Goldy again, go to, http://www.deadbeatdads.com
Momus @20,
Go ahead and vote for Bluegrass… you’ll just draw attention to another great local blog that is kicking Republican ass, so either way, you lose.
As to the multiple posts, I can only assume that this was due to some server slowdown, and that it wasn’t intentional. In anycase, their tracking IP and other information, so multiple votes will not be counted.
But I mean what I’ve said earlier. Let’s keep this honest. One vote, no freeping.
clueless–
So what?? What influences your opinions???
It appears to be the Religion of Low Intelligence & Self-Importance!!
Seriously, what guides YOU in your decisions and opinions?
Is it merely how you FEEL??
FEELINGS change…they come and go.
Is it what Scientists tell you??
I see nothing wrong with the Bible as a guiding compass.
Being the Dimwit you are, you truly believe if you cannot understand something it must not exist. How shallow….how arrogant.
You are one of the most important posters on Alco-Blog HorsesAss.
The more drinkers drink clueless….the more sense you make!!
Seriously, what guides YOU in your decisions and opinions?
Reason and evidence.
Goldy,
You fucking nitwit..
I have no problems with democrats, In fact, I voted for kerry this past election.
I do think that you are an absolute fucking loser, whose only identity is this blog.
I would out you neck-n-neck with Richard lee of “who killed Kurt Cobain” fame.
Seriously, get a life.
Imagine all the time you could spend with your kid, or presents you could buy if you focused ona job as opposed to the rambling heard of losers on horsesass.
Momus: explain to us your personal animus towards Goldy. It makes no sense. You vote for Kerry which is a good thing and shows some sanity and then you make personal attacks on Goldy who supports Cantwell, a politican who is very Kerry-like. What’s got you ticked off?
@ 12
Able Danger! Able Danger! Able Danger! Able Danger! Able Danger!
So, Puddybud, whatever became of your vaunted Able Danger! story?
Told ya so. Nothing would come of it because it held no answers. Had there been the answers you were hoping for at the Pentagon, Rummy would have found them by now.
“Seriously, what guides YOU in your decisions and opinions?
Reason and evidence.
Commentby For the Clueless— 3/21/06@ 11:18 am”
So clueless if you are guided by whatever your little pea-brain rattling around in your pointy little noggin’ comes up with…you are doomed to a life of emptiness and mistakes!!!
Clearly there is no room in your little world for FAITH.
Too bad.
So what happens to you clueless when you leave this Earth that you covet so??
Mr. Cynical,
I answered the preamble to the Constituion question I posed to you that you could not answer for yourself. Other than to copy and past a bunch of other state preambles that, as I point out, had some falsehoods to them.
I knew that if I asked a question that required some thought and actual knowledge you would not be up to the task of honest debate.
Your copying and pasting an answer proves conservatives are out of ideas, even their bad ones.
Nice try though. I’ve countered your arguement with letters, quotes of our founding fathers and historical figures. In addition there links of historical FACT for you to explore.
Get some help with your dishonesty issue that is prevlant among Bush Republicans.
Good night, and good luck.
Faith is a state of non-thinking that has its uses in times of adversity – “no atheists in the foxhole” situations – but should be avoided when making decisions affecting the lives of many people.
When you die – that’s it – that’s all she wrote for your individual consciousness. That’s reality to me. If you’ve lived your life well, your actions in life reflect positively in the people still living after you’ve gone. That’s the best legacy any social being can hope to leave.
On that thought there’s much better things we ALL can do with the limited time we have than type crap on a website.
GBS–
WTF are you talking about you fool!!?
Read the 50 State Constitution Preambles again A$$hole!
America’s founders did not intend for there to be a separation of God and state, as shown by the fact that all 50 states acknowledge God in their state constitutions:
Alabama 1901, Preamble. We the people of the State of Alabama, invoking the
favor and guidance of Almighty God, do ordain and establish the following
Constitution ..
Alaska 1956, Preamble. We, the people of Alaska, grateful to God and to
those who founded our nation and pioneered this great land ..
Arizona 1911, Preamble. We, the people of the State of Arizona, grateful to
Almighty God for our liberties, do ordain this Constitution…
Arkansas 1874, Preamble. We, the people of the State of Arkansas, grateful
to Almighty God for the privilege of choosing our own form of government…
California 1879, Preamble. We, the People of the State of California,
grateful to Almighty God for our freedom .
Colorado 1876, Preamble. We, the people of Colorado, with profound reverence
for the Supreme Ruler of Universe .
Connecticut 1818, Preamble. The People of Connecticut, acknowledging with
gratitude the good Providence of God in permitting them to enjoy …
Delaware 1897, Preamble. Through Divine Goodness all men have, by nature,
the rights of worshipping and serving their Creator according to the
dictates
of
their consciences .
Florida 1845, Preamble. We, the people of the State of Florida, grateful to
Almighty God for our constitutional liberty … establish this
Constitution…
Georgia 1777, Preamble. We, the people of Georgia, relying upon protection
and guidance of Almighty God, do ordain and establish this Constitution…
Hawaii 1959, Preamble. We, the people of Hawaii, Grateful for Divine
Guidance . establish this Constitution
Idaho 1889, Preamble. We, the people of the State of Idaho, grateful to
Almighty God for our freedom, to secure its blessings ..
Illinois 1870, Preamble. We, the people of the State of Illinois, grateful
to Almighty God for the civil, political and religious liberty which He hath
so
long permitted us to enjoy and looking to Him for a blessing on our
endeavors
.
Indiana 1851, Preamble. We, the People of the State of Indiana, grateful to
Almighty God for the free exercise of the right to chose our form of
government
..
Iowa 1857, Preamble. We, the People of the State of Iowa, grateful to the
Supreme Being for the blessings hitherto enjoyed, and feeling our dependence
on Him for a continuation of these blessings … establish this Constitution
Kansas 1859, Preamble. We, the people of Kansas, grateful to Almighty God
for our civil and religious privileges . establish this Constitution.
Kentucky 1891, Preamble. We, the people of the Commonwealth of grateful to
Almighty God for the civil, political and religious liberties…
Louisiana 1921, Preamble. We, the people of the State of Louisiana, grateful
to Almighty God for the civil, political and religious liberties we enjoy ..
Maine 1820, Preamble. We the People of Maine .. acknowledging with grateful
hearts the goodness of the Sovereign Ruler of the Universe in affording us
an opportunity … and imploring His aid and direction
Maryland 1776, Preamble. We, the people of the state of Maryland, grateful
to Almighty God or our civil and religious liberty…
Massachusetts 1780, Preamble. We…the people of Massachusetts,
acknowledging with grateful hearts, the goodness of the Great Legislator of
the
Universe…in the course of His Providence, an opportunity and devoutly
imploring His
direction …
Michigan 1908, Preamble. We, the people of the State of Michigan, grateful
to Almighty God for the blessings of freedom … establish this Constitution
Minnesota, 1857, Preamble. We, the people of the State of Minnesota,
grateful to God for our civil and religious liberty, and desiring to
perpetuate
its
blessings
Mississippi 1890, Preamble. We, the people of Mississippi in convention
assembled, grateful to Almighty God, and invoking His blessing on our work.
Missouri 1845, Preamble. We, the people of Missouri, with profound reverence
for the Supreme Ruler of the Universe, and grateful for His goodness ..
establish this Constitution ..
Montana 1889, Preamble. We, the people of Montana, grateful to Almighty God
for the blessings of liberty establish this Constitution ..
Nebraska 1875, Preamble. We, the people, grateful to Almighty God for our
freedom .. establish this Constitution
Nevada 1864, Preamble. We the people of the State of Nevada, grateful to
Almighty God for our freedom . establish this Constitution ..
New Hampshire 1792, Part I. Art. I. Sec. V. Every individual has a natural
and unalienable right to worship God according to the dictates of his own
conscience .
New Jersey 1844, Preamble. We, the people of the State of New Jersey,
grateful to Almighty God for civil and religious liberty which He hath so
long permitted us to enjoy, and looking to Him for a blessing on our
endeavors
.
New Mexico 1911, Preamble. We, the People of New Mexico, grateful to
Almighty God for the blessings of liberty ..
New York 1846, Preamble. We, the people of the State of New York, grateful
to Almighty God for our freedom, in order to secure its blessings .
North Carolina 1868, Preamble. We the people of the State of North Carolina,
grateful to Almighty God, the Sovereign Ruler of Nations, for our civil,
political, and religious liberties, and acknowledging our dependence upon
Him for the continuance of those
North Dakota 1889, Preamble. We, the people of North Dakota, grateful to
Almighty God for the blessings of civil and religious liberty, do ordain…
Ohio 1852, Preamble. We the people of the state of Ohio, grateful to
Almighty God for our freedom, to secure its blessings and to promote our
common
..
Oklahoma 1907, Preamble. Invoking the guidance of Almighty God, in order to
secure and perpetuate the blessings of liberty … establish this
Oregon 1857, Bill of Rights, Article I. Section 2. All men shall be secure
in the Natural right, to worship Almighty God according to the dictates of
their consciences .
Pennsylvania 1776, Preamble. We, the people of Pennsylvania, grateful to
Almighty God for the blessings of civil and religious liberty, and humbly
invoking His guidance
Rhode Island 1842, Preamble. We the People of the State of Rhode Island
grateful to Almighty God for the civil and religious liberty which He hath
so long permitted us to enjoy, and looking to Him for a blessing
South Carolina, 1778, Preamble. We, the people of the State of South
Carolina grateful to God for our liberties, do ordain and establish this
Constitution
South Dakota 1889, Preamble. We, the people of South Dakota, grateful to
Almighty God for our civil and religious liberties . establish this
Tennessee 1796, Art. XI.III. That all men have a natural and indefeasible
right to worship Almighty God according to the dictates of their
conscience…
Texas 1845, Preamble. We the People of the Republic of Texas, acknowledging,
with gratitude, the grace and beneficence of God
Utah 1896, Preamble. Grateful to Almighty God for life and liberty, we
establish this Constitution .
Vermont 1777, Preamble. Whereas all government ought to … enable the
individuals who compose it to enjoy their natural rights, and other
blessings which the Author of Existence has bestowed on man …
Virginia 1776, Bill of Rights, XVI … Religion, or the Duty which we owe
our Creator . can be directed only by Reason … and that it is the mutual
duty
of all to practice Christian Forbearance, Love and Charity towards each
other
…
Washington 1889, Preamble. We the People of the State of Washington,
grateful to the Supreme Ruler of the Universe for our liberties, do ordain
this
Constitution .
West Virginia 1872, Preamble. Since through Divine Providence we enjoy the
blessings of civil, political and religious liberty, we, the people of West
Virginia .. reaffirm our faith in and constant reliance upon God .
Wisconsin 1848, Preamble. We, the people of Wisconsin, grateful to Almighty
God for our freedom, domestic tranquility
Wyoming 1890, Preamble. We, the people of the State of Wyoming, grateful to
God for our civil, political, and religious liberties … establish this
Constitution .
“Those people who will not be governed by God will be ruled by tyrants.”
William Penn
GBS asked me a question about the Constituion…my thoughts on “we the people” and do ordain.
I answered it with these 50 preambles to our State Constitutions.
I have saved these for years GBS.
You don’t like it because it shows that states acknowledge God and it doesn’t fit your dreamworld. What are you going to do GBS? Say all 50 States were wrong and try to “re-write history”?
You asked a question.
I answered.
Sounds like sour grapes we usually hear from the Godless New Age Progressive movement.
“Godless New Age Progressive Movement” (GNAPM) Members – we’ve been outed!!! Execute plan “Aardvark” now!
“When you die – that’s it – that’s all she wrote for your individual consciousness. That’s reality to me. If you’ve lived your life well, your actions in life reflect positively in the people still living after you’ve gone. That’s the best legacy any social being can hope to leave.
Commentby For the Clueless— 3/21/06@ 11:42 am”
So clueless….what happens when EVERYBODY is gone from this Earth?? All legacy’s end?
For that matter, how do you think we all got here and how was this Earth created???
If you have Creation, doesn’t it stand to REASON that there was a CREATOR??
Seems like a large sense of hopelessness on your part clueless. Lack of hope creates angst and anxiety….and shortens your life span.
Your life span must be very very important to you since after you die, that’s it.
Have you ever thought for a moment….what if the Bible is the Living Word of God???
Roger and Gang you do not see this being a problem in Seattle area in the near future?
Audio Slide Show: Genes Betray a Desert People
The centuries-old custom of intermarriage among the Negev Bedouin has had devastating genetic effects.
http://www.nytimes.com/package.....038;emc=th
Mr. “I have an Honesty problem” Cynical:
Here’s what I aksed you:
“We the people of the United States,. . . do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.” Do you understand the meaning behind the words ‘We the People’ and “do ordain’?
Seriously, can you explain it? What our forefathers meaning were benind those words in the preamble to the Constitution?
I could give a rats-ass about you pulling a bunch of shit off the internet I found in 2 minutes, there’s several sites that have this same repetitive bullshit.
What I was asking is WHY did our Fore Fathers use the words “We The Peope” and “Do ordain.”
Jack ass.
Have you ever thought for a moment….what if the Bible is the Living Word of God???
Commentby Mr. Cynical— 3/21/06@ 11:49 am
WaTF does that have to do wiht the LAW?
Not a thing.
Religion between you and your creator and none other, bub.
BUSH PROMISES 3 MORE YEARS OF WAR
At a rare news conference today (this president doesn’t like reporters or believe in the public’s right-to-know), Bush said it would be “up to future presidents” to withdraw U.S. troops from Iraq.
Hey, way to go, George — you sure know how to work a crowd in an election year!!!
So, let me get this straight, what you’re saying is you have no exit strategy, and no fucking clue how to get us out of the mess you created in Iraq, so you’re gonna let someone else worry about it. And until you’re gone, American kids will keep on dying in a war being fought for — say, what are they fighting for, anyway? What’s the mission, now that Saddam is out of power, and we know Iraq had no WMDs? Is there even a mission?
Or are we doing this just because war is fun?
If there is a creation, then there must be a Flying Spaghetti Monster Creator!!!
http://www.venganza.org/
The PERFECT defintion of LEFTIST PINHEADED KLOWN!
LPK==any person dimwitted enough to believe they can legislate the laws of economics out of existence.
This is ground-breaking stuff…once again developed using the interactive capabilities of contributors to the greatest Blog in the Northwest…SOUND POLITICS!!!
Besides, Mr. “I’m a Bush Republican” Cynical:
All those state preambles have their legal basis in “We The People” any acknowledgement towards God, Creator, etc is excluded from the legal basis as the formation for government of the People.
That is what our founding fathers wanted for this country, no matter how badly you want to create a theocracy like your hero Osama Bin Laden.
Roger Rabbit at 36:
You need to go back and reread your post. Bush expressly outlines an exit strategy: “up to future presidents.”
That’s how conservatives who are out of ideas, even their bad ones operate. Fuck it up now, let a Democrat fix it later, then blame them for fixing it, get back into power and fuck it up later.
Like the economy.
Or are we doing this just because war is fun?
Absolutely – fun for the war profiteers that is.
If Iraq is F’d up, then there must be a F’upper: George W Bush
Have you ever thought for a moment….what if the Bible is the Living Word of God???
Commentby Mr. Cynical— 3/21/06@ 11:49 am
Mr Cybical nice try but don’t give up hope on the sinners even they been save.
Roger and Gang check it out you have something new to write about today.
From the results Republicans have obtained, I’m pleased to report the vast
majority of survey participants overwhelmingly support President Bush’s pro-taxpayer, pro-family agenda and our Republican principles
http://www.gopsenators.com/sur.....sults.aspx
BOZO @ 38
How divorced from reality are you BOZO? Did you run your business by borrowing and squandering like the R’s in Congress are doing?
Roger and Gang is this true?
Our Republican Senate Majority is counting on you to stand with us now as we head into the crucial 2006 election – an election that could decide key issues such as:
Making the tax cuts permanent.
Stemming the tide of illegal immigration.
Strengthening border security.
Supporting our troops in Iraq.
Creating a sensible energy policy that cuts dependence on foreign oil.
Remember: the Democrats have become nothing more than the Party of “No”.
Dipshit@15: I was a Democrat until 1996. Clinton changed me. The shutdown of government made all the difference in my vote change. Talk about whiny little dolts. Moonbats – let eat shit and bark at the moon!
We’ve been fighting the past few wars in reverse. Rather than initially planning how to win the wars, we should focus on how first to exit the situation, then come up with a plan to win. Otherwise we’ll continue to get bogged down in international messes.
First, have a plan to get out, then come up with a plan to win.
Goldy@21: I think momus is right. Peeps like Donnageddon who work for a defense firm can walk up to other people’s PCs, and blog the site and vote. Then he cleans the PC from the visit and moves on.
Wait… what the hell did I just write? That would assume Donnageddon has the mental wherewithal to pull off a stunt like that. We all know that’s not the case!
Ohhhhh… Nevermind!
No cynical, it doesnt show that states acknowledge God, not anymore than it does when mentioned in the declaration of independence. See what you are trying to coopt is the phrase ‘God’.
Your assumption is that if they said ‘God’ they meant the god you yourself worship and of course were members of your religion. If you really believe that, you need to go read a few history books. Some of those states were referencing your god and religion, some were referencing others. Most of the original 13 were refering to a deist concept.
However, once again, you are throwing a red herring into the stewpot anyway. Other than the original 13, these were written after the constitution, and so can not override the establishment clause.
Have you ever thought for a moment, what if the Bible is not the Living Word of God??? You keep saying that one must have faith, but what makes your faith in your god somehow superior to my faith in my goddess? Why is your faith so weak that you feel like you need to use the police to force others to become members of your religion?
Bill: I have NEVER thought the Bible is NOT the living Word of God.
Bill get out the Bible mommy gave you. Dust it off. Look at the first Chapter of John’s Gospel, the first few verses. What does it say about the Word?
BTW who is your goddess? One of the WWE women? How about one of them in those car or biker mags? I bet you like those toothless ones! Or how ’bout them on MTV at Spring Break time?
A Texan Is drinking in a Seattle Bar. He gets a call on his cell
phone. He hangs up, grinning from ear to ear and orders a round of drinks for everybody in the bar because, he announces, his wife has just produced a typical Texan baby boy weighing 25 pounds. The slightly-built, limp-wristed Seatleites can’t believe that any new baby can weigh in at 25 pounds, but the Texan just shrugs, “That’s about average back home, folks.
Congratulations showered him from all around and many exclamations of “WOW!” were heard. One woman actually fainted due to sympathy pains. Two weeks later the Texan returns to the bar. The bartender says “Say, you’re
the father of that typical Texan baby that weighed 25 pounds at
birth, aren’t you? Everybody’s been makin’ bets about how big he’d be in two weeks. We were gonna call you …
So how much does he weigh now?” The proud
father answers, “Seventeen pounds.” The bartender is puzzled and
concerned.
“What happened? He already weighed 25 pounds the day he was
born. The Texan father takes a slow swig from his Lone Star, wipes his lips on his shirt sleeve, leans in to the bartender and proudly says,
“Had him circumcised!”
So, let me get this straight, your proof that the bible is the word of god is that the bible says its the word of god? So, if I say god told me to post this does this become the word of god too?
I see, you’ve really not got an answer so you drop to insult mode. Youve not anwered this question though, what makes your faith more deserving than mine? Guess what, most other religions also have writings that say their god is real too. What makes YOUR bible the only real one?
Replace the Viaduct.
Comment by Voter Advocate— 3/21/06@ 10:15 am
Lets all email support for Voter Advocate to pass on to the Mayor via Ron Sims to tear down the Viaduct and replace it with an expansion of I5 corridor in downtown Seattle. Make the exits in the university district and at the MLK Street. Since Dean Logan voice his support for replacing the viaduct right away.
dean.logan@metrokc.gov
Wow Pee-Dookie and BIAW’s dick are just firin’on all cylinders this morning. oh yeah…I see klake and his mental mouse turds too.
Listen ya stooopid fucks…everything you guys advocate has been tried. EVERYTHING you guys advocate has failed. MISERABLY.
Happy?
You got your chance, you fucked it up, you’re done.
Good fucking riddance.
Let’s get some grown-ups in charge and clean this fucking mess up.
Puddy–
Something tells me bill is the 7 pounds taken off of that baby!
There have been about 300,000 generations of humans on this planet so far. That’s about 6,000,000 years-worth of human experience. in all that time, nobody has truly known where the universe came from, nor does anyone know the true nature of “God.” Christianity, Judaism, Islam – they’re no more valid than any other religion (explanation).
Oh, so you mean you dont have any answers, all youve got are insults.
Wow rujax woke up from his weekly stupor to downgrade himself from mensa status. Too bad the 2nd dullest knife can’t create a cohesive thought. Remember Rujax how you all lost the house after 40 years. Your playbook is out of plays. What are you guys offering besides tax and spend; cut and run?
I’m reading……
Notice how Klake is obsessed with looking down tunnels? Spend a lot of time in tunnels do you KlakeyFlakey?
Cynical you may be right about bill.
So, let me get this straight, your proof that the bible is the word of god is that the bible says its the word of god? So, if I say god told me to post this does this become the word of god too?
I see, you’ve really not got an answer so you drop to insult mode. Youve not anwered this question though, what makes your faith more deserving than mine? Guess what, most other religions also have writings that say their god is real too. What makes YOUR bible the only real one?
Commentby bill— 3/21/06@ 12:32 pm
Phun bill, believe whatever you want. I’ve never said you have to worship my God. I agree it is a personal decision. It seems like you are paranoid of people who live their lives by faith.
Phun bill….I’m sure you are a real phun guy to be around. I think Phun bill is the perfect tag for you.
Bill so who is the goddess?
You looked up John 1? Wow that’s more than For the Clueless does!
Jesus is the Word and He has always been with God. When He comes again to take his elect to heaven as it says in 1 Cor 15:51-end and 1 Thess 4:13-end, it will be more than 144,000 and it WILL NOT be a rapture. Are you ready for Jesus to come? Are you doing all that you need to do? Are you fighting the good fight? Are you living just right?
My proof is Jesus said He did not come to change the Word but to fulfill it! Not one jot or tittle will change!
BOZO @ 32
When happens when EVERYBODY is gone? Why should anyone think for more than a few seconds about that? Does it help improve things in the here and now?
One theory I read says that universe oscillates between states of matter and energy in many billions of years cycles. Given the size of the universe, that kind of violent process makes anything possible including simple single-celled life and ultimately consciousness.
All the reasoned arguments for the existence of God fail when the “who created the creator” question comes up. This is a good run down of the arguments and their failings by an atheist and libertarian by the way.
BOZO, I can believe 2 + 2 = 5 and that bedrock belief might take some of the burdens of uncertainty off my shoulders and improve my health but then I’d be living a lie and I personally don’t want to do that. If someone conclusively proves to me through reason and evidence that I’m mistaken in any of my beliefs, I welcome it. I welcome anything that takes mankind out of the darkness of falsehood.
Here’s a nice simple “Bible”:
In the beginning, something happened. Nobody knows what, and it’s really not important. You’re here, so accept it and be nice to others. The End.
— J-Walk
bill, clueless and gbs
Sadly for you, 52 of 55 signers of The Declaration of Independence were Orthodox, deeply committed Christians. Those 52 men believed The Holy Bible to be divine truth. They also believed in God’s personal intervention during the establishment of their new nation.
The first Congressional Congress formed The American Bible Society immediately after creating The Declaration of Independence, voting to purchase and import 20,000 Bibles for the people of this nation.
There are parts of our history you KLOWNS just wish wasn’t so. It doesn’t fit into your Godless New Age Progressive model….so you re-invent or ignore history.
How many of you KLOWNS know Patrick Henry’s WHOLE speech:
“An appeal to arms and the God of hosts is all that is left us. But we shall not fight our battle alone. There is a just God that presides over the destinies of nations. The battle, sir, is not to the strong alone. Is life so dear or peace so sweet as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it Almighty God. I know not what course others may take, but as for me, give me liberty, or give me death.”
In 1776, Patrick Henry also wrote,
“It cannot be emphasized too strongly or too often that this great Nation was founded not by religionists, but by Christians; not on religions, but on the Gospel of Jesus Christ. For that reason alone, people of other faiths have been afforded freedom of worship here.”
I particularly like Cynical’s argument that there is a God.
There is stuff. Something must have made the stuff.
What I don’t understand is why stop there?…
There is stuff, something must have made the stuff. But who created that something? Did it always exist?
I find it much more realistic that “Something” exists randomly than “Something that made the something” exists randomly.
First, have a plan to get out, then come up with a plan to win.
Commentby Libertarian— 3/21/06@ 12:17 pm
Libertarian we do have an exit plan, and that is Roger putting on his uniform and helping us beating his enemies of Socialisms. Roger is not cooperating to end this major event. Can you believe he will not wear the new uniform we made for him to wear? Civilian cloths are not allowed in the battlefield, without a uniform, the Geneva Conventions does not protect him for losing his head. We do have a small problem finding a hat to cover his ears and not obstruct his hearing. Any suggestion on solving this problem would be greatly appreciated. Roger has all the right answers on winning Wars without losing any of his own troops. Hell the enemy does not suffer any loses due to his convincing arguments they surrender just like the French Army.
PuddyBud said appearently not understanding the irony
“What are you guys offering besides tax and spend; cut and run?”
Those are both exceptionally GREAT Ideas!
There is no budgetary responsible system OTHER THAN tax and spend. What we have now is spend like crazy and have our grandchildren pay for our party! Fucking freeloading NeoCon killers.
And we need to immediately get the hell out of Iraq. Bush has caused enough disaster, sufferring and death there. Our presence in Iraq is not helping anything except for terrorist recruitment.
Sure, we leave it will be a disaster. But our staying is only going to compound the disaster Bush created.
Tilman’s father says it’s been lie after lie. What else do you expect from the republicans?
http://articles.news.aol.com/n.....0000000001
Mr. Cynical – the first six presidents of the US were Deists, according to Wickipedia. (Did I spell that correctly?) Charles Carrol, a signer of the Declaraion of Independence was the only Catholic signer.
30.
Authored by American diplomat Joel Barlow in 1796, the following treaty was sent to the floor of the Senate, June 7, 1797, where it was read aloud in its entirety and unanimously approved. John Adams, having seen the treaty, signed it and proudly proclaimed it to the Nation.
Treaty of Peace and Friendship between the United States of America and the Bey and subjects of Tripoli, of Barbary
Art. 11. As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquillity, of Mussulmen; and, as the said States never entered into any war, or act of hostility against any Mahometan nation, it is declared by the parties, that no pretext arising from religious opinions, shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.
http://www.stephenjaygould.org.....ipoli.html
Cynical @ 30
You’re a complete asshole and a simpleton.
“God and State”? Are you joking? This is the new Jesus Freak meme? “God and State” is somehow meant to be distinct from “Church and State”?
Which God, dipshit? The God that says the Pope is infallible as to dogma? The God that says the Pope has no earthly authority? The God that says the Book of Mormon is His word? The God that says Mohammed is the Final Prophet? The God who is many Gods and presides over Nirvana?
You see, until you religious idiots agree on what God is and stop, you know, killing people who believe different things, we have to keep your antic beliefs out of government BECAUSE YOU ACT LIKE DANGEROUS LUNATICS AND YOU CAN’T BE TRUSTED.
Hence, the 1st Amendment.
Rare and reasonbly good case for the calm rationality of Atheism.
__________________________
Defenders of the Faith
By SLAVOJ ZIZEK
London
FOR centuries, we have been told that without religion we are no more than egotistic animals fighting for our share, our only morality that of a pack of wolves; only religion, it is said, can elevate us to a higher spiritual level. Today, when religion is emerging as the wellspring of murderous violence around the world, assurances that Christian or Muslim or Hindu fundamentalists are only abusing and perverting the noble spiritual messages of their creeds ring increasingly hollow. What about restoring the dignity of atheism, one of Europe’s greatest legacies and perhaps our only chance for peace?
More than a century ago, in “The Brothers Karamazov” and other works, Dostoyevsky warned against the dangers of godless moral nihilism, arguing in essence that if God doesn’t exist, then everything is permitted. The French philosopher André Glucksmann even applied Dostoyevsky’s critique of godless nihilism to 9/11, as the title of his book, “Dostoyevsky in Manhattan,” suggests.
This argument couldn’t have been more wrong: the lesson of today’s terrorism is that if God exists, then everything, including blowing up thousands of innocent bystanders, is permitted — at least to those who claim to act directly on behalf of God, since, clearly, a direct link to God justifies the violation of any merely human constraints and considerations. In short, fundamentalists have become no different than the “godless” Stalinist Communists, to whom everything was permitted since they perceived themselves as direct instruments of their divinity, the Historical Necessity of Progress Toward Communism.
During the Seventh Crusade, led by St. Louis, Yves le Breton reported how he once encountered an old woman who wandered down the street with a dish full of fire in her right hand and a bowl full of water in her left hand. Asked why she carried the two bowls, she answered that with the fire she would burn up Paradise until nothing remained of it, and with the water she would put out the fires of Hell until nothing remained of them: “Because I want no one to do good in order to receive the reward of Paradise, or from fear of Hell; but solely out of love for God.” Today, this properly Christian ethical stance survives mostly in atheism.
Fundamentalists do what they perceive as good deeds in order to fulfill God’s will and to earn salvation; atheists do them simply because it is the right thing to do. Is this also not our most elementary experience of morality? When I do a good deed, I do so not with an eye toward gaining God’s favor; I do it because if I did not, I could not look at myself in the mirror. A moral deed is by definition its own reward. David Hume, a believer, made this point in a very poignant way, when he wrote that the only way to show true respect for God is to act morally while ignoring God’s existence.
Two years ago, Europeans were debating whether the preamble of the European Constitution should mention Christianity as a key component of the European legacy. As usual, a compromise was worked out, a reference in general terms to the “religious inheritance” of Europe. But where was modern Europe’s most precious legacy, that of atheism? What makes modern Europe unique is that it is the first and only civilization in which atheism is a fully legitimate option, not an obstacle to any public post.
Atheism is a European legacy worth fighting for, not least because it creates a safe public space for believers. Consider the debate that raged in Ljubljana, the capital of Slovenia, my home country, as the constitutional controversy simmered: should Muslims (mostly immigrant workers from the old Yugoslav republics) be allowed to build a mosque? While conservatives opposed the mosque for cultural, political and even architectural reasons, the liberal weekly journal Mladina was consistently outspoken in its support for the mosque, in keeping with its concern for the rights of those from other former Yugoslav republics.
Not surprisingly, given its liberal attitudes, Mladina was also one of the few Slovenian publications to reprint the infamous caricatures of Muhammad. And, conversely, those who displayed the greatest “understanding” for the violent Muslim protests those cartoons caused were also the ones who regularly expressed their concern for the fate of Christianity in Europe.
These weird alliances confront Europe’s Muslims with a difficult choice: the only political force that does not reduce them to second-class citizens and allows them the space to express their religious identity are the “godless” atheist liberals, while those closest to their religious social practice, their Christian mirror-image, are their greatest political enemies. The paradox is that Muslims’ only real allies are not those who first published the caricatures for shock value, but those who, in support of the ideal of freedom of expression, reprinted them.
While a true atheist has no need to boost his own stance by provoking believers with blasphemy, he also refuses to reduce the problem of the Muhammad caricatures to one of respect for other’s beliefs. Respect for other’s beliefs as the highest value can mean only one of two things: either we treat the other in a patronizing way and avoid hurting him in order not to ruin his illusions, or we adopt the relativist stance of multiple “regimes of truth,” disqualifying as violent imposition any clear insistence on truth.
What, however, about submitting Islam — together with all other religions — to a respectful, but for that reason no less ruthless, critical analysis? This, and only this, is the way to show a true respect for Muslims: to treat them as serious adults responsible for their beliefs.
Slavoj Zizek, the international director of the Birkbeck Institute for the Humanities, is the author, most recently, of “The Parallax View.”
…I know of no other country where love of money has such a grip on men’s hearts or where stronger scorn is expressed for the theory of permanent equality of property.
Alexis de Tocqueville
Democracy in America
Cynical,
Because I am a devout Christian, and a minister’s son to boot, I am out on the left politically. That’s where Scripture takes me. So, I’m wondering exactly which god it is that you propose that we adopt as the national god. Take a look at Matthew 25. Christ seemed to identify priorities like feeding the hungry, clothing the homeless, and comforting the imprisoned. You fucks on the right propose competing priorities like cutting taxes, bombing civilians, executing the imprisoned, and terminating aid to the poor. Whatever your religion is, don’t inflict it on me. Your efforts to put prayer in schools and keep “under God” in the Pledge of Allegiance just cheapen faith. Lastly, and you too Puddybud, bite me.
BTW, X-ray telescopes, UV telescopes, Visible light telescopes, Infrared telescopes, Gamma Ray detectors, Neutrino Detectors – why can’t we see this “God”? WHY IS HE HIDING???
Why does he only appear to power-hungry freaks like Pat Robertson and Osama Bin Laden?
You’d think He’d at least **wave** to physicists from time to time.
Looks like all the married first cousin couples in Kentucky have been voting for the Bluegrass Report. Goldy doesn’t stand a chance!
75 + 76 – Well Spoken and more gracefully than I.
Clearly we do have a national God.
Mammon.
It’s easy to see the difference between God fearing Christians and God loving Christians.
God fearing Christians tell others what they need to believe. They speak of nothing else but the sins others cause.
God loving Christians help those in need and live by Jesus teachings. They speak nothing but the love of Christ and the importance of helping your fellow man.
It’s very strange how in the last 10 years each political party has advertised and tried to appeal to one or the other. Now, in my eyes, the political parties are nearly mirror images of these two different philosophies.
proud leftist @ 76
Have you read this guy? What do you think?
This is surreal. Someone quotes Kevin Phillips saying something indescribably stupid, and it sets off a discussion on whether god exists. I feel like I am in an alternative universe.
Wow! The reactionary dominionists have been shredded but good on this open thread and pretty good on the last as well! Way to go liberal-leaning believers and skeptics!
Janet S – projecting as usual.
I heard somewhere that something over 100 million people in the U.S. believe the earth is between 5 and 10,000 years old. If that is true, it’s not too unreasonable to conclude that a significant portion of those people also believe that the second coming is at hand.
Goldy, according to Alexa.com, which records internet activity:
HorsesAss.org is the 215,457th most looked at webpage on the internet and
BlueGrassReport.org is the 894,281st most looked at webpage on the internet.
I used to buy sell domains based on the alexa ratings, and I’d estimate that, based on this information, you have about 8 times the hits that their site has. They are also are not advertising the voting as much as you, so…
Why are you getting so few votes compared? It’s pretty interesting.
Oh well, Second in the Nation is good too. =)
It’s easy to see why BlueGrass.org is kicking the Horses Asses. I find it sad and telling that our Washington competitors repeatedly resort to worn-out stereotypes when being upstaged by their superiors in Kentucky. I would wager the intellectual capacity of my six year old “sister-cousin” against any of them!
P.S. Marrying first cousins is ILLEGAL in Kentucky ,BUT is LEGAL in Arizona, Illinois, Indiana, Maine, Utah, and Wisconsin. Addtionally, for you westerners: cousin marriage is legal in California, Colorado, and Utah
Hay Duke:
Those are republicans.
Who are posting that.
Yeah, we got Repug trolls too. Nasty little buggers.
Proud Leftist: Sorry I only bite one good looking female; my wife, you dolt. Those are some interesting words from a preacher son. Wasn’t there a song some time ago about the son of a preacher man?
Second Christ did identify priorities like feeding the hungry, clothing the homeless, and comforting the imprisoned. Have you been doing it or are you acting like Donnageddon?
All that you identified from Matthew 25: 30-end are the qualities a person is to have! That’s your personal responsibility. That’s not one for federal government. God isn’t going to weigh the US Government in the balances. He weigh’s men and women in the balances.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11947412/
Let this be a lesson to all you culture of corruption republicans. You could end up like Duke or DukeBabyButt as the guys in the slammer know him! HE HE!
For the Clueless @ 81
Thanks for the post. Interesting stuff. I believe there is a lot of false teaching out there in the name of Christ; hell, all of us who call ourselves Christians may be guilty of false teaching from time to time. The answers are hard to find, and contractions easy to identify. I figure we all must figure it out for ourselves and that we should lobby for a political system that permits and promotes figuring it out for ourselves. Fundamentalists who are more into control games than into theological purity, promote fear so they can assert authority. I think they could do with a good dose of humility and uncertainty.
Puddybud @ 90
Dusty Springfield had a hit with “Son of a Preacher Man” in the 60s. I wanted my wife and two sisters-in-law to sing it at our wedding reception. They refused. Poor sports. With regard to your other comments, I think a Christian who supports a government’s unnecessary war is guilty of murder. I think a Christian who supports a government that cuts housing allowances for the poor is guilty of causing homelessness. I think a Christian who supports a government’s reduction of school lunch payments for the poor is guilty of promoting hunger. So, don’t think you can get off the hook merely by donating to charity if, at the same time, you support Bush’s policies. And, by the way, I think public proclamation of the good works you might perform is shameful. Sorry, but that’s how I see it.
Let’s see, KY has beautiful women, great basketball teams (even in off seasons) and has produced the greatest President (Lincoln). I would be jealous too if all I has was rain and a dead rock star.
Proud Leftist: Yes, I liked that song. My roommates at university (lacking in melanin) sang it all the time in the 70s. I thought that would have been funny at your wedding. I like comedic happenings at solemn events. Breaks up the monotony. Reminds me of the guy who taped HE and LP on his shoes, when he knelt for prayer, people chuckled!
Regarding the personal helping of people, I bring that up when libruls get all uppity about using other people’s money to sling it out. I can appreciate your opinion, as long as you are quietly following Malachi 3. Most libruls here on ASSes didn’t know of Malachi until I posted it weeks ago!
Proud LEftist: When you claim a buget cut is this a cut or not raising the level to a prescribed dummocraptic limit.
I ask this because I remember in 1995 this. In 1995’s budget battle, Democrats proposed a double digit increase in funding for school lunch programs, while Republican proposed a more modest increase. Tom Daschle ran out in from of all the papers and tv cameras claiming the Republican proposal a cut and charged Republicans wanted to starve children, because the proposal was less than what Democrats proposed. What’s strange here is the Republican proposal called for an increase in funding. The MSM ran with the story, never challenging it, even though it was not true. So again I ask, which is it?
Erratum… ran out in front of all…
Puddybud
I appreciate the dialogue. The social Gospel compels us to different political paths. Intriguing, isn’t it? I’ve never found anyone I’ve agreed with on every issue, nor someone I’ve disagreed with on every issue. That makes me think that nobody’s quite got all the answers.
gerald. its simple you have 10 people hitting this site 200.000
times
proud leftist—
Seems pretty clear that you feel that more government is the solution to all of our ills.
My wife and I support a lot of causes and enjoy helping people struggling. We do it freely….and with others, MUCH more efficiently than more government.
I don’t see where the BIBLE says “government” is the right tool for charity and a helping hand. I think that is where we seperate on beliefs……
No, Cynical, what he is saying is that if a government is ACTUALLY to reflect Christian values, it should reflect the values of, you know, Christ. Make sense, Dopey?
Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. 35For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’
37″Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’
40″The King will reply, ‘I tell you the truth, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers of mine, you did for me.’
“the least of these”…
Proud Leftist: I agree with Cynical. Charity comes from your personal beliefs. Give until it hurts. “Go ye therefore…” You can’t legislate charity. I had issues with the Faith Based Initiatives activity. And… I hate it when libruls use tax monies to perform “charitable” activities! So Proud Leftist, I do speak about what I do because the laissez-faire attitude of libruls. Your side puffs itself up as being the kind and benevolent when your side spends what $357 (Al Gore) or used underware (The Clintons)!
DLAw: Wait a minute. Your side says we have to have this church and state separation. You side says we have to accommodate all faiths. Now you want to go Christian? What….? I think you just left the librul reservation.
But you would have the government pray like the Scribes and Pharisees.
With regard to your other comments, I think a Christian who supports a government’s unnecessary war is guilty of murder. I think a Christian who supports a government that cuts housing allowances for the poor is guilty of causing homelessness. I think a Christian who supports a government’s reduction of school lunch payments for the poor is guilty of promoting hunger. So, don’t think you can get off the hook merely by donating to charity if, at the same time, you support Bush’s policies. And, by the way, I think public proclamation of the good works you might perform is shameful. Sorry, but that’s how I see it.
Commentby proud leftist— 3/21/06@ 4:27 pm
I hate to break your hart proud leftist didn’t you just describe most socialist democrats as well? Your hatred for the President is as much a sin as Kennedy cheating on his wife. You forget all of us are prone to mistakes and commit sins. For some reason you believe you are above the rest of humanity in that department. I believe that is arrogate and that could be consider a sin also in the eyes of your maker. That is if you enter this world like the rest of us sinners.
Cynical,
I hardly think that government “is the solution to all of our ills.” Indeed, I believe it’s causing a helluva lot of our ills right now. Moreover, I hardly believe that having a government that is “liberal” would relieve me of doing whatever I can to alleviate whatever suffering I see. On the other hand, I most certainly believe that I should work toward having a government which works towards what I see as fundamental Christian values–establishing peace, relieving hunger, housing the poor, ensuring justice for all, etc. Private charity cannot possibly offset the wretched harm that a government can inflict through initiating war, among other things. At the same time, absolute separation between church and state is absolutely necessary. If the government can’t do the economy right, then how the hell can it do religion right? I want my faith protected from governmental interference. My faith will never be challenged by prohibiting the Ten Commandments from being posted in a courtroom. Let’s not get caught up in false threats that are used only to divide and raise money for interest groups.
DLaw: No! Why did Jesus chastise the Scribes and the Pharisees? I leave that for your inspection!
Puddy, you are an idiot.
See if you can understand this: Cynical (hypocrite) wants the government to be Christian – except he doesn’t want the government to reflect the values of Christ, but the values of the Scribes and Pharisees, which Christ condemned as hypocrisy.
I want the government to reflect the values of compassion and community because, as an Atheist, I come to my own conclusion that these are the best values for government to have. I come to that conclusion from first principles and logic. I’m okay with people coming to the same conclusion by being Christians. I don’t have any tolerance for people who claim to want a Christian government and just engage in un-Christian hypocrisy.
I still ask Proud Leftist, are they real cuts where the $$$ is less than the previous year or is the rate of escalation being reduced. You still have not answered this issue!
Christ chastised the Scribes and Pharisees because they were hypocrites. That’s why he repeats it again and again in nearly every verse about the Scribes and Pharisees.
DLaw: Gee, I stood up for you against the village idiot, Donnageddon. I don’t know what Cynical wants, but you seem to think so. I don’t see any of your argument in Cynical’s response. It’s your summarization! Cynical dislikes Bush and many of his activities almost as much as you do. But he thinks LEFTIST KLOWNS of the LENIN USEFUL IDIOT category are why you guys can’t be in charge again!
Cynical correct me if I am wrong. Are you asking a Christian government or a government that has Christian ideals? To me there is a big difference. This is why the Taliban is repugnant.
DLaw: Correct. But why did Christ chastise the Scribes and Pharisees? Some of them were librul wjile others were conservative.
If we had a Christian government we would be doing this:
1.) Throw abortion doctors in jail.
2.) Send women who have abortions to rehabilitation camps
3.) Women would be forced to obey their husbands
4.) The 10 Commandments would be supreme law and no compromises
5.) Atheists would be arrested.
6.) Agnostics would be reeducated.
7.) Prayer would be said at the start of US Supreme Court sessions. Oops… it is!
8.) Under God would be demanded in schools.
9.) No separation of church and state
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dlaw
They don’t get it, do they?
Klake, you ignorant slut,
Where did I say I hate the president? I don’t respect him, I think he’s a liar and a criminal, but I don’t hate him. I just want him to return to his ranch, cut brush, and leave the world alone. I also didn’t say a damned thing about being “better” than you. Do you have an inferiority complex? I’m well aware of my own shortcomings, and hardly need someone else to point them out.
Puddybud,
Supporting a government that kills kids just ain’t right, from a Christian perspective or any other moral perspective. Sorry about that.
Let’s not get caught up in false threats that are used only to divide and raise money for interest groups.
Commentby proud leftist— 3/21/06@ 6:43 pm
Proud leftist it appears that you are talking out both sides of your face. The government and the church cannot provide the same services without being in conflict with its citizens. The services provided by the churches and the government would not even be the same because the church job is saving souls. The services provided by the government should not be made availably by the church because fighting Wars and collecting taxes is a government task. Providing for the safety of its citizens would conflict with the church morals. The government value system would be different from the churches but each would be of high standards and challenging to maintain. The problem with the government helping the poor, the poor only get a small sum of the resources collected. The administrators receive the lion’s share of resources instead and the disbursement is spotty due to the politics that is involved.
Supporting a government that kills kids just ain’t right, from a Christian perspective or any other moral perspective. Sorry about that.
Commentby proud leftist— 3/21/06@ 7:03 pm
This country does not kill kids and those who do will end up in jail. To stand by and let others kill people without attempting to stop them is just as bad. I see what you are saying is quite naïve when you access the villains in this world. Following your plan, the criminals would be running the world, because you could not deal with the violence.
Pudster sez:
“Cynical correct me if I am wrong. Are you asking a Christian government or a government that has Christian ideals? To me there is a big difference. This is why the Taliban is repugnant.
Commentby Puddybud— 3/21/06@ 6:52 pm”
Frankly, I believe it is dificult for someone to lead without some firm foundation on which to make decisions. Feelings are not a firm foundation, they are sinking sand!
I have a lot of problems with Bush and his cronies on many issues.
You are right Puddy, the LEFTIST PINHEADED KLOWNS are so shallow and without ANY compass, they scare me even more!!
Frankly, I believe it is difficult for someone to lead without some firm foundation on which to make decisions. Feelings are not a firm foundation, they are sinking sand!
I have a lot of problems with Bush and his cronies on many issues.
You are right Puddy, the LEFTIST PINHEADED KLOWNS are so shallow and without ANY compass, they scare me even more!!
Commentby Mr. Cynical— 3/21/06@ 8:00 pm
Mr. Cynical you are not only one who feels that way if you listen to the Arabs they have the same problem. They (Arabs) know when the Leftist are done with the Christians they will start on the Muslims. That is why Bin Laden hit the US is out of fear our country was changing his part of the world, and he could not do anything about those culture changes. The crap that comes out of their mouths sounds great, but lacks any substance. That is why LBJ programs was a real disaster and we the tax payer is still paying for them.
KLake: What the left forgets is the decadence that Hollyweird and the other BOZOS put out is anathema to the Muslim ideals. When that weirdo stuff goes overseas they look at our culture as corrupt. There are other things that are politically correct in nature here but are repugnant to their religion. The left can’t see that.
Now this is funny! THe Clinton News Network getting spurned by Gallup!
GALLUP POLLING DROPS CNN AFTER ‘LOW RATINGS’; FULL MEMO REVEALED
Tue Mar 21 2006 19:01:37 ET
The GALLUP polling company has dropped CNN as its outlet for electronic distribution.
GALLUP, CNN and USA TODAY have been polling partners since 1992.
“CNN has far fewer viewers than it did in the past, and we feel that our brand was getting lost and diluted,” GALLUP claimed in an internal memo, obtained by the DRUDGE REPORT.
http://www.drudgereport.com/flash2cnn.htm
If CNN is losing viewership, maybe the rats don’t have as strong a hold as they think!!!!!
This could be the reason Rabbit Pellet has brain problems.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/200.....me_tv_dc_1
Older women who say talk shows and soap operas are their favorite TV programs tend to score more poorly on tests of memory, attention and other cognitive skills, researchers reported Monday. – Older Rabbits too!
I bet if they performed a study on leftist librul web sites the outcome would be similar.
Puddy have you seen this poll yet
http://people-press.org/report.....PageID=837
This is one poll you wont find on the from page of your librul newpapers.
Notice the sources Klake The Flake comes up with. Drudge? Are you fucking kidding me? Drudge? What’s next, World Net Daily? Keep it up Klake The Flake. You are the best thing going for the Dems. After listening to you, people realize that inbreeding republicans is a bad idea.
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“The government and the church cannot provide the same services without being in conflict with its citizens.”
Huh??? the government has been feeding the hungry for decades (ever hear of food stamps?), and so have churches (food banks, food drives, etc.). Where’s the conflict? It worked fine until Bush started subcontracting government functions to churches.
“The government and the church cannot provide the same services without being in conflict with its citizens.”
The drill sergeant’s version goes, “Your soul belongs to God, but your ass is mine!”
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“With regard to your other comments, I think a Christian who supports a government’s unnecessary war is guilty of murder. I think a Christian who supports a government that cuts housing allowances for the poor is guilty of causing homelessness … a Christian who supports a government’s reduction of school lunch payments for the poor is guilty of promoting hunger.” Commentby proud leftist— 3/21/06@ 4:27 pm
Christians don’t do these things. CINOS do these things.
I am still waiting for Proud Leftist to tell us if these “reductions” he writes about are in real year to year reductions or are they just a reduced increase from the previous year like Daschle and Gephardt lied about in 1995. If they are real year to year reductions then you have a beef. If they are reduced year to year increases then your beef is being eaten by your own argument!
Democrats, born liars.
Democrats, biggest suckers of the public teat. What do cities produce except welfare recipients?
Democrats, never saw a tax they hated. What was JFK’s (need help cougar) 2004 platform again?
Democrats, we’ll spend your dollars their way. Does anyone remember Medvinsky?
Democrats take our money to promote their agenda; no matter how abhorrent it is to the country. See the next item
Democrats who promote killing a child as pro-choice; but education vouchers are anti-choice. Poor blacks have no school alternatives per Democrats.
Democrats who for 40 years in the House said: Let us think for you because you’re too stupid to think for yourselves. Emeril say BAM!
Democrats who claim they’re so compassionate, they claim to give my money to the poor instead of their own. Taxes and welfare.
Nuff Said!
RUFUS, KLAKE: http://www.boycottliberalism.com/Toptenlies.htm which are now up to 33 and counting.
So librul ASSHeads: I am still waiting for some intelligent member of the Goldy ASSHead Brigade to tell me how after up to 50 million people have been eradicated by your support of abortion (can you say donkoinfanticide?), how will you all pay for future Social Security benefits as Nancy Pelosi states it unless you open US borders to illegal immigrants? You libruls won’t admit many of those 50 million could be paying into Social Security right now! Just think from 1973-1986, that’s 13 years of donkoinfanticide and now we are about to enter this crisis. Yet Nancy Pelosi says there’s no crisis. She wants open borders!
Windie: Today you get your comeuppance.
I wonder what it’s like to be a multimillionaire? I wish all these republicans trolls on here would tell me. We all know that only a multimillionire would want to be a Republican. What are those tax breaks like? …try to explain without calling names….
I’ve noticed that hardcore extremists like “puddybud” always resort to infantile name-calling for lack and any worthwhile ideas. Cut-and-paste from like-minded websites comprise many of their posts and show a juvenile and sad dearth of idealogical self-control. They feed their desire for validation with questionable news sources, but those which agree with their borrowed ideas. Show me a new idea. Just one.
GBS: I called PacMan who is working in Seattle Renton area. I plan to leave at 11:20 to meet you and demonstrate my blackness to you. PacMan never turns down free food! This will shut up windie and RevMan and horseless looselips!
Hay duke prove to where I pulled #130 from. You are a Capital ASSHOLE! You have no arguments against donkoinfanticide!
Hay duke: Looks like cud chewing is not your forte. Ask BILLIONAIRES Bill Gates and Warren Buffett. They are libruls!!!
Hay Duke, when you can create a cogent argument, I’ll be waiting!
Hay duke: Why don’t you decry the librul ASSHeads who cut and paste to create their puny arguments? Oh yes, hay duke, one sided in all of his arguments! If there is no (D) next to the name he won’t vote for them!
Hay duke: Are you upset I use the Internet to find counterarguments and your mind is to slow to box with conservatives?
Hey duke: Speaking of name calling, are you masquerading as Klakesucksdick?
Hay duke: I now understand when KLake, Proud Leftist, DLaw, Cynical, and I were having a cogent conversation about governments and religion on another thread why you felt left out. You had nothing intelligent to add because there is nothing rattling around in that cranial vacuum called your head!
Puddybud posted the last eight messages. I have no armadillo and I don’t want one. But hay duke is a loony lefty librul as they come and I am searching ASSes to view some intelligent comment right now. I have about to enter into 2005.
Hay duke: If you are some other [im]poster, clue me in so I can read an intelligent missive!!!
Hey duke let me amend post #136 because I forgot to add the biggest dickhead BILLIONAIRE.
Bill Gates, Ted Turner, Warren Buffett and dickhead George Soros (not even a native American)! Did you know George has his money buried in overseas tax shelters and he tell us how to spend our money? Bullshit artist!
Then I forgot the friends of the Democrats who are/were BILLIONAIRES:
Fidel Castro, Robert Mugabe, the late Idi Amin, and the late Yasir Arafat.
Hay duke: Which web site did I cut and paste post #113? Please provide the URL reference? The blog citation?
Hay duke are you a product of first cousins marrying?
Or Hay duke as Jeff Foxworthy says is your family tree a straight line?
Did you know you can marry your first cousin in Massachusetts, New York and Rhode Island. Blue state land!
On another thread:
On another thread horseless looselips wrote:
Who flew the bin Laden family out of the U.S. after 9/11? Their business partners: the Bush family.
Commentby headless lucy— 3/20/06@ 9:45 pm
Now read this entry RevMan wrote:
Why did Bush fly his business partners, the bin Ladens, out of the U.S. the day after 9/11?
Commentby Rev. A.A. Tappman: Anabaptist— 3/22/06@ 8:16 am
These post are too similar. I submit horseless looselips is the RevMan!
Donnageddon said on an earlier open thread wrote he supports taxes and spending. I suggest Donnageddon moves to New Jersey.
http://www.newsday.com/news/lo.....pnewjersey
Nice article on how one librul New Jersey Guvnur spent the state into fiscal hell and now Jon Corzine the Multimillionaire who bought his senate seate is raising taxes on the middle class!
FIFTEEN messages in a row. Do you have some sort of mental problem?
You guys proved my point nicely. Name-calling and insults. No wonder this blog is a loser.
Puddybud:
Man, I definetly want to meet with you, but I’m out of time before my trip to Europe.
I need a little more notice to arrange my scheudle I’m rock solid until I leave.
I’ll have to check your “blackness” after I get back mid April.
Besides, you never mentioned where the heck you were going. How would I ever find you?
Later,
GBS
We even called out your name!
Hay duke, the next time (today) when Rabbit Pellet posts 15 messages in a row I EXPECT the same treatment of him jackASS!
So which URLs did I extract my information from. I’m still waiting hay duke! Stop cud chewing and get looking!
Hey Puddingbrains, how come you aren’t defending the Marines who shot little kids at point-blank range? Don’t you support the troops?
The Oglala Sioux, led by their chief Cecilia Fire Thunder, have decided that they will open a Planned Parenthood clinic on their reservation, which will be unaffected by the South Dakota abortion ban.
kathrynt has contacted the Oglala Sioux Tribe and spoken with Ms. Fire Thunder herself. Information on where and how to send support and donations are in her post. Apparently, Ms. Fire Thunder was very surprised to find out that anybody out of South Dakota knew or cared.
The theo-conservatives are certain to respond to this very violently, so it is imperative that the tribe receives as much moral and financial support as possible so that they don’t fold in the face of the coming onslaught. Please email your support and send donations if you are financially able.
Please repost this information far and wide.
Rabbit Pellet: Why are you defending donkoinfanticide and open borders for illegal aliens?