Yet more irony

Not everybody is on board with the whole “Seeds of Compassion” thing:

Several hundred protesters chanted and sang, marching from the University of Washington’s Red Square to Hec Edmundson Pavilion today in the biggest demonstration here yet against the Dalai Lama’s five-day Seattle tour.

A plane also flew overhead trailing a banner that read: “Dalai: ur smiles charm, ur actions harm.”

Protesting the Dalai Lama? Really?

Once outside Hec Ed, the protesters showed violent images from Tibet on a large-screen TV, chanted through bullhorns and sang songs in Mandarin, including one that protesters translated as “My Chinese heart,” saying that their hearts still belong to China even though they are far from home.

I’m sure my great grandfather Wilhelm Kamp’s heart still belonged his home country of Germany (and his hometown of Leverkusen). But events have a way of clarifying one’s national allegiances.

Protester Shufu Xe, a systems analyst at the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center, said the Dalai Lama’s message has been distorted by the Western media.

“I like some of his ideas about nonviolence. But I think he is behind some of the violence in Tibet,” Xe said. “I don’t like that he’s using the Olympics to promote his political agenda.”

Xe, like many of the protesters, was born in China. He moved to the U.S. seven years ago.

I don’t mean to get all “nativist,” but if they protested the Chinese government in China, they’d never be heard from again. Remember the “Tank Man”?

I think it’s cool that people can live in America and say their “heart” is somewhere else AND use their rights in this country to air their grievances. It’s weird, but uniquely American.


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    Politically Incorrect spews:

    I’m not getting this at all. The Chinese, of all people, think Tibet is the aggressor here? Unbelievable!! When was the last time the Tibetans stormed Shanghai?

    Look, I’m not noted for my politically correct views, but even Ray Charles can see through this one. The Chinese are the aggressors here, and they’re the ones that have no business in Tibet. I think this is Chinese racism in action.

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    Mark The Redneck-Patriot spews:

    Moonbat quiz:

    Where does peace come from?

    1) Talking
    2) Negotiating
    3) Appeasing
    4) Destroying your enemy’s ability to make war.


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    slingshot spews:

    There’s a story on the wire today that China claims to have found explosives stored in Buddhist monasteries. And I lifted up my shirt this morning and discoverd six-pack abs, too.

    I’m glad these Chinese-Americans are exercising their right to free speech. A right they never had in China. I’d also like to know who paid for that banner-dragger flight.

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    ArtFart spews:

    2 Hey Mark,

    How many more years, lives and billions of shrinking dollars do you propose we spend “destroying Iraq’s ability to make war”?

    You can’t even pay your gambling debt, and you propose to pontificate on war and peace? What a putz!

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    Lama Raman spews:

    There was no Red Square demonstration, no march, no air ballet. We know this because a KIRO caller said there was no breach of the inviolable wall of separation between church and state when Seattle schools promoted Dalai Day for their students.

    And why was the promotion of a quasi-religious event by Seattle schools not a problem? Because the Dalai Lama, unlike … say … Billy Graham or Pope Benedict, is “not controversial.”

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    I’m wondering which of our many wingnuts just posted as “Lama Raman”. Personally, I’ll take my “raman” with some veggies and a bit of chicken or pork.

    Oh, and if Pope Benedict was going to be in the area, I’d expect the schools to take advantage of the event.

    While both the Pope and the Dalai Lama are religious leaders, so is Queen Elizabeth II.

    And, like the Queen, they are also important people in the international community, and worthy of notice even by folks that do not belong to their particular faiths.

    As for the protesters. It seems very odd that folks would come here to protest for the Chinese government, but that is the beauty of freedom.

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    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Let me guess: The Chinese government is paying for their college education in America, and they “protest” whatever and whenever the Commissariat of Overseas Education tells them to. No tickee, no shirtee.

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    Tlazolteotl spews:

    But I think he is behind some of the violence in Tibet

    This statement just really burns my britches. Let me write slowly so the stupid can understand it: The Dalai Lama said he would resign as Tibet’s political leader if the violence there continued. Now, who do you think he was speaking to with that statement? The Han Chinese in Lhasa or Beijing? Please. He was telling his own people to knock it off, or he would have to disassociate from them politically. There may be things you can find to legitimately criticize the Dalai Lama about, but to entertain that he is promoting violence in Tibet is just a lie, and a stupid one at that.

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    ewp spews:

    As a former intelligence analyst with some knowledge of how the Chinese government operates I can assure you that a number of the Dalai Lama protesters are paid agents of the Chinese government. China expends an enormous amount of resources to support it’s international image as a country worthy of a place at the table of the worlds leading countries, while simultaneously suppressing it’s own people and territories it’s annexed such as Tibet.

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    "Tlazolteotl spews" indeed spews:

    As Defender of the Faith, JB @7, We resent the guilt-by-association association of our name with that of commoners, although We have the common touch.

    When We checked out boots and saddles at a Sheridan, Wyoming, cowpuncher emporium called King Ropes, We did not demand that King Ropes be rechristened ‘Queen Ropes For A Day.’


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    Tlazolteotl spews:

    ewp, it also would not surprise me at all if they had agents among the Tibetans protesting in Lhasa and inciting violence against Han shopkeepers. I’m not saying Tibetans of their own accord didn’t do any of it, because we see a higher level of the same sort of frustration being played out with roadside bombs in Iraq…people don’t appreciate living under occupation…but the Chinese government has tried to make the Dalai Lama look bad before.

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    My Left Foot spews:

    MarkTRNasshole: @ 2

    Idiot. You don’t even see the irony in your post.

    Fucking idiot!

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    ArtFart spews:

    7 It might also be pointed out the the pope is also a head of state (of the Vatican), and that the Dalai Lama is, well, supposed to be, despite Chinese claims to the contrary.

    What puzzles me at this point is that, considering that he has some pretty strong personal opionions about all this, we haven’t had a statement from SeattleJew.

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    I was,is,will be a tool.that’s a life.that’s political.that’s the conspiracy for their own purpose that an agency like cia or kkg makes mischief between one group of innocent people and the other or a government and makes them fight each other and then make up a perfectly democratic excuse to teach those who are not liked a lesson.i am just wondering if people in democratic countries in africa really lived better than tibetan and han,no,they absolutely don’t.did you really care about them? and i know they could vote for a so called right person, but the essence of politics is that the minority lead the majority whatever they are autarchy or democracy.they all could make great use of tools to do something bad for themselves and their ignorant people,just like Iraq’s war and Kosovo’s war,please tell me where human rights are.did they exist?they are ruined by the former mischief and by the developed countries’s jealousy and perfectly conspiracy.