Where did Rudy go wrong?

Via Dan…

Hey Dave… how’s that Giuliani endorsement working out for you?

Comments

  1. 4

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    The shine’s going to wear off the likely GOP nominee, too, when voters figure out he’s a warmonger itching to wrap his hands around Iran.

  2. 5

    Broadway Joe spews:

    Sheriff Hairspray and Rudito Mussoweenie. Two tastes that taste like crap together…….

    Do you realize that Reichert might actually have a longer political shelf life than Giuliani?

    I bet you Rudito’s getting tan in some banana republic with his latest mistresses at his side come November, with all those campaign funds……

  3. 6

    spews:

    You guys are just jealous.

    When Darcy wins, what fun will be left here?

    Actually, my sources tell me that McCain is considering asking the Sharif to run as Veep. Ths would opne up the Sharif’s seat for Rev Hutchinson!

    Do not laugh, with all the MS stock he has squirreled way, Hitch oculd be pretty effective and … apparently he and the Balm are buddy buddy. If fact, there is one story that the Sharif goes veeping so Balmer can buy Hutch a seat in congress as the MS congressman!

    Can y’all image a debate between Hutchinson and Burner?

  4. 7

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    How To Catch Osama Bin Laden

    I can’t resist posting this 2-liner sent to me by one of my pals:

    The government knows exactly where one cow with Mad Cow Disease is among the millions of cows in America, but has no idea where thousands of terrorists are. Maybe the Department of Agriculture should be put in charge of defense.

    Kinda reminds you a little of a certain detective who took 20 years to find a serial killer right under his nose, doesn’t it?

  5. 8

    DrSteveB spews:

    Regarxding the Rudy as Bialystak joke… actually as no joke I have been wondering where the Ron Paul money is really going. Lots of money. No expenditures. Longtime ties to and backed by old right racist antigovernment movment..? Inquiring minds want to know where his money is 12 months from now?

  6. 9

    spews:

    @7,

    Off topic. This is a warning. Off topic comments are for open thread only.

    To quote Goldy, “So as of this moment I am imposing new policies regarding comment thread moderation. The following type of comments will no longer be tolerated:

    Deliberately off-topic comments (except in “open threads”)….”

    This is my first warning.

  7. 10

    dutch spews:

    Troll….don’t you know that on this board “Everyone is equal, some are just more equal”. Goldy let’s it happen because he needs the filler. :-)

  8. 11

    THE Puddybud The Prognosticator... spews:

    As my wife said, Rudy blew it by not having his name available for public consumption for 4 weeks. Especially since all we heard was race bating from HeilBilly against Obama. The noise was drowning out anything he was doing in Florida. How do I know? Gots family there.

    Troll:

    Darryl, Goldy & his minions always give a pass to Pelletizer. Remember he has a free pass to drop his Pellets of “un”knowledge where ever chooses. He can freely copy 1200 articles and pelletize a thread here. He, being an old feeble man masquerading as a dumb bunny, talking about how he’s going to screw some animal shelter catches isn’t erased anymore. Kind of sick huh?

  9. 12

    spews:

    @10,

    dutch, I do know that. Yesterday Darryl deleted a comment from IAFF Fireman, but left standing comments from Roger Rabbit that violated terms of service. In other words, he doesn’t have the courage or honesty to delete comments from people who he agrees with politically (or drinks with) when they break the rules. The only thing that kind of favoritism does is lessen the integrity of this blog.

  10. 13

    spews:

    The day Goldy and friends start deleting comments (that violate the rules) from people they like and agree with is the day I will respect them. Until that time I will stand by my opinion that Goldy & crew are cowards and hypocrites.

  11. 15

    YLB spews:

    Rudy who? Wasn’t that the guy who led the top of some polls for a time?

    Wasn’t that the guy who had NYPD officers walk his mistress’ dog and scoop the mutt’s poop?

    Wasn’t that the guy who had some kind of “shag fund” going?

    Wasn’t that the guy who was responsible for the firemen dying in the towers on 911?

    Wasn’t that the guy who liked to dress in women’s clothes and makeup?

    Wasn’t that the guy who called himself “America’s Mayor” and then couldn’t get elected America’s dogcatcher?

    Oh THAT guy!

  12. 16

    My Left Foot spews:

    Hey, I have been deleted for being off topic. I am a liberal Democrat.

    So piss off!

    Puddy,

    I am doing well. Going to get a new ICD/Pacemaker in the next month or so, the battery is wearing down. I have the very same device that Cheney has. So I do, after all, have something in common with a Republican.

    Yes, Teresa made my day special. We went to Crustacean for dinner. Cost way too much but OMG the food was beyond excellent.

    Hope this finds you well and fine.

    Carl

  13. 17

    correctnotright spews:

    Is there a more boring speaker than Reichert?

    The poor guy has to count his committees on his hands – even though there are only three and it is the main focus of his job.

    If I was that poor a speaker about my job – I wouldn’t have one. In fact – only GWB seems to be a worse speaker.

    There are plenty of Republicnas who are pretty smooth – Mitt for instance. But poor Reichert can hardly string two coheerent thoughts together – and this was a video clip that was probably rehearsed.

    Oouucch!

  14. 18

    YLB spews:

    John Edwards will be packing it in today in New Orleans. I hear rumors of a deal he made with Obama but I’m skeptical about that. Today’s deal is tomorrow’s “I never said that”.

    JE was the most progressive of the Dem candidates. His ideas did force the other two candidates in the progressive direction. If somehow he could haved sustained till the convention, I believe he could have had an even greater influence.

    After the ugly disaster of the last 7 years and longer if you go all the way back to Raygun, our country needs strong progressive principles from leadership not squishy fence straddling.

    Corporations have too much influence and power in Washington. The other candidates are too beholden to them. That’s got to stop. It will take longer now that JE is dropping from the picture but the struggle continues and if progressive keep their heads up, people power will one day triumph over greed.

    I will support Barack Obama because we truly need a break from the past and the Clinton machine, as we’ve recently seen, is anything but that. I have no illusions that progressives will get even half of what they want from Obama but I’m sure looking forward to the world once again looking towards our country for hope and positive leadership.

    Can you imagine what the world thinks of a country who would elect such a pathetic disaster as Bush?

    Let’s elect Barack Obama and show the world what we’re really all about.

  15. 19

    delbert spews:

    Rudy’s out, as is John Edwards. Not sorry to see either one exit the field.

    Now if we could just rid ourselves of McCain and Clinton.

    I would have loved to see Richardson vs. Thompson, Romney vs. Obama wouldn’t be too bad, McCain vs. Clinton will have me looking for the ripcord and moving elsewhere.

  16. 20

    My Goldy Itches spews:

    Support for abortion and gay rights, gun control, and having a press conference to announce you are divorcing your wife are not things that play well west of the Hudson River.

  17. 21

    Dems are spineless and Piper supports torture spews:

    Some folks criticized me the other day for saying that when bush does something bad he is helped to do it by Democrats. Check out these Senate votes:

    To support the new Bush-supported FISA law:

    GOP – 48-0

    Dems – 12-36

    To compel redeployment of troops from Iraq:

    GOP – 0-49

    Dems – 24-21

    To confirm Michael Mukasey as Attorney General:

    GOP – 46-0

    Dems – 7-40

    To confirm Leslie Southwick as Circuit Court Judge:

    GOP – 49-0

    Dems – 8-38

    Kyl-Lieberman Resolution on Iran:

    GOP – 46-2

    Dems – 30-20

    To condemn MoveOn.org:

    GOP – 49-0

    Dems – 23-25

    The Protect America Act:

    GOP – 44-0

    Dems – 20-28

    Declaring English to be the Government’s official language:

    GOP – 48-1

    Dems – 16-33

    The Military Commissions Act:

    GOP – 53-0

    Dems – 12-34

    To renew the Patriot Act:

    GOP – 54-0

    Dems – 34-10

    Cloture Vote on Sam Alito’s confirmation to the Supreme Court:

    GOP – 54-0

    Dems – 18-25

    Authorization to Use Military Force in Iraq:

    GOP – 48-1

    Dems – 29-22

  18. 22

    Dems are spineless and Piper supports torture spews:

    Declaring English to be the Government’s official language:

    GOP – 48-1

    Dems – 16-33

    As a Texas Republican state Senator once said: “If speaking English was good enough for Jesus, it should be good enough for us.”

  19. 23

    Dems are spineless and Piper supports torture spews:

    Reichert, like the Republican party, is politically dead and stinkin’!

  20. 24

    Dems are spineless and Piper supports torture spews:

    @9 Troll–just be grateful Goldy isn’t banning stupidity or all you troll would be gone.

  21. 25

    Dems are spineless and Piper supports torture spews:

    Bush uses torture and kills civilians including children
    Piper and Puddy enable and support Bush
    Therefore Piper and Puddy enable and support torture and killing civilians including children

  22. 26

    Dems are spineless and Piper supports torture spews:

    Why do the Republicans hate America?

    Because of our freedom!

  23. 27

    Dems are spineless and Piper supports torture spews:

    Bush’s attorney general (citing Cicero, Piper windbag style) on waterboarding and torture:

    Mukasey On Waterboarding: ‘I Would Feel That It Was’ Torture ‘If It Were Done To Me’ »

    “In today’s Senate Judiciary Committee hearing, Sen. Ted Kennedy (D-MA) asked Attorney General Michael Mukasey whether waterboarding is torture. “Would waterboarding be torture if it were done to you?” “I would feel that it was,” said Mukasey. He then continued to dodge the question on whether the procedure is illegal by going on a tangent and citing Cicero. Watch it: (see link below)

    Mukasey has consistently dodged answering whether waterboarding is torture, despite promising to quickly order a “review” of the tactic. In October, while being considered for attorney general, he stated:

    If, after such a review, I determine that any technique is unlawful, I will not hesitate to so advise the president and will rescind or correct any legal opinion of the Department of Justice that supports the use of the technique.

    At that time, Mukasey also admitted that he considered waterboarding to be “repugnant” on a “personal basis,” but again claimed he could not strike a “legal opinion” on the issue.

    Like Mukasey, DNI Mike McConnell has also said that he personally considers waterboarding torture: “If I had water draining into my nose, oh God, I just can’t imagine how painful! Whether it’s torture by anybody else’s definition, for me it would be torture.” Despite his personal repulsion to the procedure, McConnell similarly backtracked a few days later, simply stating, “The United States does not engage in torture.”

    Perhaps not surprisingly, Vice President Cheney’s former counsel, Shannen Coffin, said that Mukasey’s answers on waterboarding today were “nicely put.””

    http://thinkprogress.org/

  24. 28

    Dems are spineless and Piper supports torture spews:

    @27 is a very clear example of Republican values and how they have debased America’s democracy and it’s language and standards of debate. See the comments of Piper and Puddy and Marvin and Goldy itches and Troll, etc to see what I mean. These guys are amoral assholes who can’t thinks their way out of a paper bag.

  25. 30

    Dems are spineless and Piper supports torture spews:

    Piper claims to have a son in the military. If he is involved in the illegal occupation of Iraq he is a target of Iraqi patriots.

    Tell us Piper if your son is captured and waterboarded by the these Iraqi freedom fighters who are fighting against foreign occupation of their country would you consider their behavior torture? Or would you give them the same free pass that you give your president?

    What if the Iraqi freedom fighters were aware of a ticking bomb placed by Americans in Baghdad? Would torture be OK then Piper?

  26. 31

    I-Burn spews:

    @30 Suppose *you* were being held hostage, for whatever reason. The only way to prevent your hideous death is the “torture” of one of the perpetrators. Still going to stand on your principles? Just curious…

  27. 33

    Dems are spineless and Piper supports torture spews:

    @30 Then I-burn, you have no problem with iraqi freedom fighters torturing Piper’s soldier son.

  28. 35

    Dems are spineless and Piper supports torture spews:

    Look @31 there are no easy answers to this. But the US is using torture on a routine basis. The leadership of this country are war criminals. We do not defeat the enemy by becoming like them. When we behave like them we are not opposing them, we are not good guys vs the bad guys. We have joined them in their war against humanity

  29. 38

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @9 How is it off topic? The thread topic is Dave Reichert, and I posted a comment about how ineffectual Reichert was as a cop. How is that off topic? You’re a fucking idea. You wouldn’t know what a topic is if one bit your balls.

  30. 41

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @11 No, Rudy blew it by being a vindictive little prick as mayor of New York; by being stupid (e.g., putting the command center in WTC); by being a serial womanizer; and, in general, just by being himself. And, above all, by being a REPUBLICAN. The stupidity of his campaign strategy was merely a fillip.

  31. 42

    I-Burn spews:

    @35 I don’t actually watch TV at all, aside from the occasional NHL game.

    How about answering my question? Suppose *you* were being held hostage, for whatever reason. The only way to prevent your hideous death is the “torture” of one of the perpetrators. Still going to stand on your principles?

  32. 43

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    11, 12 – This is a liberal blog. If you don’t like how it’s run, feel free to crawl back into whatever wingnut circle jerk you slithered out of. I assume you’re here because you find conservative blogs insufferably tedious and repetitive, not to mention uninformative, tedious, and repetitive. Can’t blame you there; we try to keep you entertained on this blog. Apparently it’s working because you two slugs spend almost as much time here as I do — and I don’t have to work.

  33. 46

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @18 “After the ugly disaster of the last 7 years and longer if you go all the way back to Raygun, our country needs strong progressive principles from leadership not squishy fence straddling.”

    We need more than that. After the systematic looting of the middle class over the last 7 years, we need some good ol’ lefty confiscation.

  34. 47

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @19 “Now if we could just rid ourselves of McCain and Clinton.”

    I have a better idea — let’s rid ourselves of you, pudwhacker, and all the other Republican whiners who freeload on this site.

  35. 48

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @21 It’s probably the same bunch all the time. I’ll tell you what, though. I’d rather have a hairline majority with some soft Democrats in it, than have a hard-right GOP majority. Although today’s Senate leaves a lot to be desired, it’s still a vast improvement over the Senate it replaced in Jan. 2007. Rome was built one stone at a time, not in one day. Next goal: A 60-Democrat Senate. For. Obvious. Reasons.

  36. 49

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    I have an idea. When Hillary is elected president and has a filibuster-proof Senate supermajority, she should appoint her husband to the Supreme Court. As I recall, his 5 years are up and he can practice law again.

  37. 50

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    That would stick in the wingnuts’ craw somethin’ fierce.

    HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR

  38. 51

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    And who cares whether he’d be any good. He couldn’t possibly be worse than Scalia, Roberts, or Thomas.

  39. 52

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @30 Hmmm. That comment is a bit raw. I don’t wish any ill on piper’s son, or on piper for that matter. However, if I had been born an Iraqi instead of an American, I’d probably be trying to throw the foreign invader out of my country too. I certainly would if the shoe was on the other foot and we had Iraqi soldiers kicking down doors and shooting babies in Seattle.

  40. 53

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @31 It’s a phony question because it makes the false assumption that torture produces good information.

  41. 54

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @31 (continued) No, I think the only thing torture is good for is getting fucking even. Of course, if you’re going to do that, you really ought to torture the guilty instead of the innocent.

    I’ve said all along on this board that I don’t care what Bush & Co. does to the 9/11 terrorists — whether it breaks laws or not, I’ll look the other way because those bastards have it coming. But … I’ve also said there ought to be substantial (i.e., not slap-on-the-wrist) criminal and civil liability for each and every innocent person you fuckwads tortured … and I wouldn’t rule out capital punishment for those cases in which the innocent torture victim died.

  42. 57

    Dems are spineless and Piper supports torture spews:

    @51 RR Yes 30 is a bit raw. But since Piper uses his son’s
    military service for debate advantage on this blog, including his son in a hypothetical situation involving torture is appropriate in trying to reach through Piper’s lack of self-awareness and empathy to show him that torture is wrong in all cases.

    Piper supports torture. He thinks it is good policy when America does it because in his mind we are the good guys. He then thinks it is evil when the other guys do it. It is astonishing to me that he can’t comprehend that when we behave like the bad guys the very behavior that makes them bad guys also makes us bad guys.

  43. 58

    correctnotright spews:

    @56: The US is supposed to be a beacon of light for the world. That our AG can’t even say that waterboarding is torture (when the Geneva convention and our own goveernment have said it before) tells you how low we have sunk.

    All those pathetic “we don’t torture” statements are a bunch of lies – we have tortured (see the admission by Negroponte) and the people who have done it should be tried for war crimes.

    I am ashamed to be an American because of our use of torture. I am ahsamed of our government that allows spying and illegal wiretaps on american citizens.

    What happened to the constitution of our land?

  44. 59

    Dems are spineless and Piper supports torture spews:

    @57

    Mega dittos! And to think that whoever is elected president will roll back the powers that Bush has grabbed, first from a compliant Republican congress, and now a spineless Democrat congress is naive.

    Bush is a religious wacko. He thinks that the “end times” are near so science doesn’t matter, environmental destruction and global warming don’t matter. The extinction of a wide variety of animal species every day doesn’t matter. For Bush the end times are coming and all good christians like him are going to heaven and the rest of us are going to hell. Only a completely amoral religious sociopath like Bush or Bin Laden could do the things they do and still sleep at night.

    The astonishing thing is that Bush and Bin Laden are unquestionably supported by so many so called God fearing people.

  45. 60

    RobK1967 spews:

    #41 Sorry, but your premise is flawed. Show me how torturing anyone gets you valuable information. For someone who claims to not watch TV you sure spout talking points from 24.Do you have a premise that isn’t as moronic as you portray yourself to be?

  46. 61

    I-Burn spews:

    @59 Obviously, you’re the product of the Seattle Public School System. The only things I’ve advocated is that I like hockey. Perhaps instead of trying desperately to read something into my post that wasn’t there, you simply read what I actually wrote, you have more success with the question.

    I do note that not a one of you actually provided a straight-forward answer. It wasn’t that difficult.

    And just FYI – nowhere did I claim that torture could, or would, obtain any information. I merely wondered if this pack of sanctimonious, and self-righteous libs would have the courage of their convictions. I think the general evasiveness provides its own answer, don’t you?

  47. 62

    THE Puddybud The Prognosticator... spews:

    So Clueless said: “JE was the most progressive of the Dem candidates.”

    And he called himself an Eisenhower Republican…?

    Does this person have a schizophrenic mind or not…

    You are a legend in your own mind…

  48. 63

    THE Puddybud The Prognosticator... spews:

    Carl My Left Foot Grossman: Wife and I will pray your operation goes well.

  49. 64

    Bax spews:

    Question 1: that fire truck belongs to the Pelham-Batesville fire department in South Carolina. Reichert is my congressman. What the hell is he doing in South Carolina?

    Question 2: why is a municipal fire truck being used as a backdrop for a campaign video?

  50. 66

    YLB spews:

    Fucking stupid idiot @ 62

    Teddy Roosevelt was a progressive. Was he a liberal? Hardly.

    But he believed in muscular government action to address society’s needs – like Eisenhower did with science and engineering education.

    You’re so fucking silly!