Welcome Karl Rove

Karl Rove spoke at American University last night, and while I’m sure the invited guests were enthralled, he didn’t exactly get a rousing reception from the masses.

Cliff Schecter, an American University alum, describes the events:

Rove, in usual elitist/slimy GOP fashion, only spoke to what Nietzsche might call the “splendid blond beasts” who make up the Young Republican idiot core. You know who these losers are, the people on your campus who split most of their time between defending date rape, working to get professors fired for not praising Pinochet and watching German shiza videos.

Well, Rove got a rude reception at American, in the form of students protesting him and trying to block his car as he left–calling for his arrest for violating the Presidential Records Act. As someone who has recently called for Rove to go to prison myself, I sympathize.

Hmm. Rove will be in town, celebrating Abraham Lincoln’s assassination with the King County Republicans this Saturday, April 14. Perhaps we should organize him a big Seattle welcome, WTO style?

Comments

  1. 1

    skagit spews:

    In case you missed it the first time and in case you feel like cutting off and arguing with callers tonight:

    “Perhaps too late for some, I would like to apologize for my election night criticizes of Jim McDermott and Darcy Burner. I have been incensed with the treatment that I have received from Dwight Pelz, chair of the State Democratic Party, and unfortunately took that anger out on these two individuals. Even though the State Party does not endorse candidates, Mr. Pelz has been telling people not to vote for me, has refused to let me leave literature at State Party events and his staff stated that they would throw my literture in the trash if we left materials at State Party events. Despite efforts to obtain access to the voter files prior to the State Party Convention in early June, I did not obtain access to the files until about a week before the September 19th primary. Mr. Pelz has even gone out of his way to speak to me quite nastily at a couple of events. So my quarrel is with Mr. Pelz and the State Party and I should not have taken it out on McDermott or Burner. While there may be those that disagree, the Democratic State Party could be improved as could the primary system. Both parties largely control what candidates make it through the primary and they should not also control how voters vote on primary day.”

    Posted by Hong Tran at 12:05 PM, Sep 21, 2006

  2. 2

    skagit spews:

    You and Karl Rove both deserve a pie in the face. Both of you display unrivaled arrogance.

  3. 3

    Dick Cheney spews:

    Hong Tran. You sound more divisive and not very constructive. Come on and spill the beans.

    Who are YOU REALLY WORKING FOR?

  4. 4

    ROVE NEEDS LOVE spews:

    YES KARL ROVE DESERVES A ROVIAN HELLO AND SHOUT OUT ACCOMPANIED BY SINGING AND GREETINGS FROM, US HIS LONG SUFFERING AMERICAN FANS.

    WHERE EXACTLY WILL KARL BE? WE WOULD LOVE TO HAIL HIM WITH LOVE FRUITS AND VEGETABLES LIKE THE STUDENTS DID AT AMERICAN UNIVERSITY,PELTING KARL’S CAR WITH LOVE, SIGNS AND SHOUT OUTS OF GREETINGS :)

  5. 5

    Puddybud Who Left The Reservation spews:

    http://mediamatters.org/items/ 200704060003

    Conservative Radio Host,
    Imus, apologized for “nappy-headed hos” remark

    After reportedly defending his April 4 description of the Rutgers University women’s basketball team, which is comprised of eight African-American and two white players, as “nappy-headed hos,” on the April 6 edition of MSNBC’s Imus in the Morning, host Don Imus apologized for the remark. Imus called his comments “insensitive and ill-conceived,” adding that “[i]t was completely inappropriate, and we can understand why people were offended.” He further called the comments “thoughtless and stupid.”

    It’s OK by me for Imus to say this because he is a wingnut, like me.But if a liberal so much as offers me a glass of milk and an oreo, I will scream PREJUDICE at the top of my lungs.

    Because being a wingnut like I am is all about being a hypocrite — not about color.

  6. 6

    headless lucy spews:

    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories.....5050.shtml

    “This week Democrats, who have serious case of Rove envy, went a little nuts and started sending around information and graphic pictures of Gannon and his porn Web sites. But it is the more routine part of Gannon’s life that deserves serious scrutiny. Planting or even just sanctioning a political operative in the WH press room is a dangerous precedent and Karl Rove’s hope to become a respected policymaker will be hampered if the dirty tricks from his political past are more apparent than his desire to spread liberty around the globe.”

  7. 7

    headless lucy spews:

    Syria uses state sponsored terrorism. Our use of former drug runners and Taliban members to murder and terrorize people in Iran is “foreign policy”???!!!

    Ya gotta be nuts to be a wingNUT.

  8. 8

    Richard Pope spews:

    Maybe Goldy can get Democrat activist Thomas Hays to go out there and protest Karl Rove “WTO style”. Hays is the fellow who claims the State Department is making it rough for him to get a passport, because of his politics:

    http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/.....ort07.html

    Or maybe Hays could do some baby-sitting for Goldy, so Goldy can be freed up to join the protest himself. After all, the Seattle P-I says that Hays has been background checked and approved to provide child care (presumably by DSHS).

  9. 9

    RightEqualsStupid spews:

    You know I can’t help but think that Thomas Hays and Richard Pope have a great deal in common.

  10. 10

    RightEqualsStupid spews:

    By the way, that pervert Bill O Really is busy calling for ABC to fire ODonnell because he doesn’t like her politics. But when right wing talk host Don Imus attacks blacks, Bill O doesn’t say a word. Typical.

  11. 11

    RightEqualsStupid spews:

    Hey Dickless Pope – why not carry a pro-Karl Rove sign to the rally to show you aren’t a chickenshit coward? What, afraid that you’ll have to defend yourself without a computer keyboard between you and your opponents?

  12. 12

    Richard Pope spews:

    Goldy accuses Republicans of defending date rape? Maybe Goldy should get Thomas Hays on his radio show to talk about his problems getting a passport. Also, ask him if he is the same Thomas Hays that has been in trouble in the Thurston County court system, and if so, allow him to defend himself against the accusations of the woman who obtained the sexual assault protection order.

    http://www.horsesass.org/?p=2776#comment-654738

  13. 13

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @12 Not a bad idea, Richard! And, if it’s a different Thomas Hays, your public retraction and apology will be forthcoming. Am I correct?

  14. 14

    Tree Frog Farmer spews:

    @12 A little care in reading, Mr. Pope. Goldy was quoting Cliff Schecter. You apology is accepted.

  15. 16

    Tree Frog Farmer spews:

    Roger, it is true there are imposters imposting here on HA, but Richard Pope’s postings and posturings, I posit, show the panache and style that accompanies too small a dosage of Lithium.

  16. 18

    headless lucy spews:

    http://www.gregpalast.com/bush.....-criminal/
    There was one big hoohah in Washington yesterday as House Judiciary Chairman John Conyers pulled down the pants on George Bush’s firing of US Attorneys to expose a scheme to punish prosecutors who wouldn’t bend to political pressure.

    But the Committee missed a big one: Timothy Griffin, Karl Rove’s assistant, the President’s pick as US Attorney for the Eastern District of Arkansas. Griffin, according to BBC Television, was the hidden hand behind a scheme to wipe out the voting rights of 70,000 citizens prior to the 2004 election.

  17. 19

    Tlazolteotl spews:

    Richard,

    It’s a little bit creepy for you to be talking about Goldy’s daughter and what kind of babysitter she should have.

    Just sayin’.

  18. 20

    Tlazolteotl spews:

    But back to the the post, and Cliff Schecter’s quote.

    I have to admit, I did have to laugh at that, because y’all don’t know just how accurate that shit is…especially the part about “defending date rape.” Brought back a lot of memories from my school days, I’ll tell ya.

    I agree with @4, Karl does need some fermented, organic LOVE lobbed his way. Unfortunately, I’ll be out of town that day, so I won’t be able to give Karl any of that wholesome affection myself. But I’ll leave anyone else who might feel inclined to show him some love a pointer: No whipped cream pies – Karl needs to watch his weight!

  19. 21

    Paddy Mac spews:

    Have the Washington state legislature issue Mr. Rove a subpoena, to answer questions — on the record, and most certainly under oath — about exactly his knowledge of our 2004 governor’s race, and if he had any involvement in attempts to get then-U.S. Attorney McKay to investigate. Our state’s legislature has a compelling interest in any possible tampering with our elections processes, and thus, full power to question Mr. Rove, under oath. If he leaves the state without answering the subpoena, the state can issue a warrant for his arrest.

  20. 22

    Richard Pope spews:

    Roger Rabbit @ 13

    I never said he was the same “Thomas Hays”. I said it raised suspicion that required a thorough investigation by the State Department of the fellow’s identity before issuing him a passport.

    In many cases — such as where the petitioner knows the respondent really well — protection order petitions include the full name and date of birth of the respondent. This is especially true in domestic violence petitions, where the parties have probably been involved for some time and know each other pretty well.

    In this case, the petitioner only stated that “Thomas Hays” was a white male. She did not provide a more complete name, or an exact date of birth. This would be consistent with the respondent being a stranger with whom the petitioner did not have an ongoing relationship.

    There are four other “Thomas Hays” voter registrations in the state of Washington, besides our passport applicant. There are also a couple of “Thomas Hays” people in the court database that aren’t registered to vote. However, our “Thomas Hays” does have a logical connection to Thurston County — he attends college in Olympia. I haven’t figured the connection that any other “Thomas Hays” may have to Thurston County.

    Obviously, the State Department has the need to verify the exact identity of the “Thomas Hays” passport applicant and determine whether or not he is also the “Thomas Hays” in the sexual assault protection order proceeding in Thurston County.

    Presumably, the actual court record in Olympia would shed some light on this. For example, the petitioner would have been required to describe the alleged sexual assault in writing. Do the allegations include anything about Evergreen, Democrat politics, or “peace” activism?

    The court docket (which I get on-line) shows the respondent fellow actually showed up at the hearing. Maybe he testified and provided further information about who he was. Even if he chose to remain “silent” about the facts of the case, the audio CD recording probably has his voice saying something, and that could be compared.

    The respondent also provided a mailing address, which could be compared with the P.O. Box he uses in Seattle, or mailing addresses at Evergreen, and inquiries could be made at this address to see if he is a current or former resident.

    There is an appeal in superior court. That “Thomas Hays” appears to be represented by an attorney. If so, is it the same attorney that is representing the “Thomas Hays” with passport problems?

    In any event, I don’t owe an apology to the passport “Thomas Hays”, even if they are not the same people. I haven’t accused him of anything. I merely pointed out a reason why his passport application might have been subject to greater than normal scrutiny.

    Obviously, it would be unfortunate if our passport “Thomas Hays” is having bureaucratic problems due to confusion with a very unsavory person by the same name. If so, it is much better for him to find out now, rather than later.

  21. 23

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Newt Gingrich joined the growing list of Republicans calling for Bush’s ethically-challenged attorney general to resign. Gingrich accused Gonzales of “bad judgment” and “mishandling” the prosecutor firings. He says Gonzo should have simply said “the president wants new people” and let it go at that. Apparently Gingrich sees nothing wrong with the administration’s scheme to use the power of federal law enforcement to maliciously prosecute innocent Democrats and cover up Repblican crimes. And this fuckwad wants to be president? God, I hope he gets the GOP nomination!!! Even Hillary would win 68% of the popoular vote and 40 states.

  22. 24

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @18 I’ve posted this before, lucy. Griffin is the GOP operative who DIRECTED the scummy Republican scheme to disenfranchise soldiers serving in Iraq by sending registered letters to their USA home addresses — and then challenging their voter registrations when they didn’t respond. (And these bastards accuse us of not counting military votes???!!!) And now he’s a US Attorney? Ridiculous!!! He shouldn’t be any kind of attorney — he should be disbarred.

  23. 25

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @19 Richard is going to look awfully shabby if THIS Thomas Hays turns out not to be THAT Thomas Hays. If he’s mistaken about these allegations, the only honorable course of action left to him will be seppeku.

  24. 26

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    But I don’t want to watch that!!! Richard’s guts all over the kitchen floor — Ugh!!! what a mess!!!*

    * Just kidding, Richard! Wingnut humor, you know?

  25. 27

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @22 “I never said he was the same ‘Thomas Hays’. I said it raised suspicion that required a thorough investigation by the State Department of the fellow’s identity before issuing him a passport.”

    (Rolling eyes) Technically, you’re correct — you merely insinuated it on a billboard-sized scale, which is not exactly the same thing. But it smells the same. This is like comparing the stench of skunk shit and cat shit.

  26. 28

    spews:

    An Invitation

    For anyone who is interested …

    KC Publicans want $1oo to attend the dinner/discussion or for $150 more one can attend the reception as well and get photographed.

    I pan to at least attend the dinner and will post my experience at SeattleJew.

    For those who can afford then $100, consider this an opportunity. Why not come and listen. It would be sobering to the Publicans if a a number of folks came and were simply quiet.

    For my part I am curious. Why would a Publican want Rove here? It is beginning to look as if Rove will be second only to Nixon in doing long term harm to this party. Can anyone imagine Sheriff Reichert having his picture taken this time? Dino Rossi is “out of town!”

    I realize that not everyone can afford the $100 and it might be better as a contribution to Darcy v2, but I hope some others will show up.

  27. 29

    spews:

    A Contest: Suggestions for a Photo Op?

    I am trying to decide about the $150 to be photographed with Mr. Rove. I do nto wnat to do it just for the kick of having the image, but thsere would seem to be an opportunity here.

    So, I will pay the $$ if someone can come up with a clevfer enough gimmick. I have considered the following:

    1. Kissing Mr. Rove

    Likely to get me arrested for assault?

    2. Asking him to sign a book?

    Which book:

    ..the Koran?
    .. the Da Vinci Code?
    .. George Bush’s Brain?
    .. Mein Kampf?
    .. The US Constitution?

    3. making a funny face for the image?

    ..smells bad
    ..werewolf
    ..dumb
    ..tongue out

    I will award a signed copy (signed by me) of the image to anyone with a good enough idea to ge tme to spend the $150!

  28. 30

    Tree Frog Farmer spews:

    @28 It is clear that a substantial number of folks calling themselves Republican here in the State of Washington feel that it is a ‘honor’ to have KKKarl Rove come here. They will no doubt fawn all over him and commisserate with him about their narrow loss of the 2004 gubernatorial contest.
    I don’t really think I have to emphasize their lack of contact with the greater body politic in the USA. These are the folks who brought us Ellen Crasswell and Dino Rossi, as well as continue to kowtow to the thugs at the BIAW and look to Sharansky for their talking points. They are an endangered species, but don’t yet realize the extent of the tarpit they have bollixed themselves into.

  29. 31

    Tree Frog Farmer spews:

    I wouldn’t want to provide Rove with another $100. I don’t want to find out what he could do with just that $100. Even if he used it to fund his defense against a richly deserved prosecution, I would regret having provided it.

  30. 32

    RightEqualsStupid spews:

    Rove would probably happily sign a picture of a naked three-year old boy. I hear old Karl likes the young ones.

  31. 33

    Tree Frog Farmer spews:

    Considering the rumors about Rove trysting with Jeff Gannon/Guckert, it would probably help to dress the young’un in a sailor suit. . . . .

  32. 34

    Richard Pope spews:

    SeattleJew @ 28

    “I plan to at least attend the dinner and will post my experience at SeattleJew.”

    I guess I can look at the King County GOP’s PDC reports in about 8 to 10 months (when they FINALLY get around to filing them) and figure out who you are :)

  33. 35

    Puddybud Now has a Doppelganger spews:

    Mr FrogKisser: Care to post the URL where #33 commentary came from.

    Ohhh… it came from your fruit fly infested mind? Yeah Thought so!

  34. 36

    spews:

    The Popester casts aspersions on Thomas Hays, noting some sort of protection order sworn out against someone of that name. He also mentions that the person seeking the order apparently didn’t know her Hays well enough to specify his birthdate (did she give an age range?).

    I wonder if, perhaps, this person also didn’t know her Hays well enough to be certain of the spelling of his name. If there are four voters with the name Thomas Hays in Washington, how many are there with the name Thomas Hayes? Twenty? Fifty? And how many of them have Thurston County connections?

    Besides, if this is the excusereason for the holdup of Hays’s passport — rather than the political retribution alleged by Hays (which, in the days of Dubya, has an Occam’s razor logic to it) — then how in the world would asking for his

    “school transcripts, high school yearbook pages showing your name and photograph, religious records, medical records, (and) tax/employment records.”

    [source]

    do anything to resolve questions arising from this alleged protection order?

    On a larger scale, how dare the government ask him, or anyone, for “religious records”? In response to such a question, I might consider showing them this or this, or maybe this. If I wanted to direct them more to my roots, maybe I’d give them this.

    CDs are sort of equivalent to records, aren’t they?

  35. 37

    spews:

    Folks, just a quick note to wish you all a happy Easter. For my fellow Christians (even you, Puddybud!) I wish for all of you the joy of the risen Lord!

    For those of you that do not share my faith, I wish for you happiness and prosperity.

    On a more personal note, a friend of mine is currently enroute to Iraq with his Army unit. (Names and unit identifications are both unimportant and could, just possibly, endanger him or some of the other Soldiers with him.)

    I would ask that those of you that do pray, please keep my friend and all of the others in Iraq in your prayers.

    We may disagree on how best to honor them, and how to go about bringing them home, but all of us want them safe.

    Time for family.

  36. 38

    spews:

    @34

    Richard .. if you go to my blog, my identity is public. Just Google SeattleJew.

    I regard the terms “liberal” and “conservative” in the US as meaningless and inconsistent.

    At times the Demos have gotten crazy too, but for now , the Publican party, IMO, has drifted into a screwball, bizar “conservative” orientation. Rove is truly the architect of a stupid structure more reminiscent of Seattle’s EMP than the (conervative?) Smith Tower. IMO, that leaves us with only one functional political party.

    I really do not understand how any patriot could support Rove. What in hell does he have to do with conservative economics? or with traditional Republican concepts of non-interventionism? Can anyone imagine Rove working for Ike or Dewey or Taft? Reagan had better taste than this.

    Anyhow, worst case I will get thrown out.

  37. 39

    spews:

    @36

    If there is a God, he she or it should feel sympathy for those sacrificed on this meaningless alter. We all wish the troops well.

  38. 41

    Puddybud Now has a Doppelganger spews:

    John Barelli – Thanks for the sentiment, even from you. Did you read Galatians 3&4 yet? Our sermon was on Christ dying for us.

    Easter is a great time of the year. You see people in church (Did you go Clueless?) whom otherwise are absent, if not MIA!

    Speaking of which, Mr Stupid, your friends even acknowledge Christ: James 2:19 “You believe that there is one God. You do well. Even the demons believe–and tremble!” [emphasis mine].

  39. 42

    Puddybud Now has a Doppelganger spews:

    John Barelli: Somehow this fits the “swine” here:

    Mark 5: And they came over unto the other side of the sea, into the country of the Gadarenes. And when he was come out of the ship, immediately there met him out of the tombs a man with an unclean spirit, Who had his dwelling among the tombs; and no man could bind him, no, not with chains: Because that he had been often bound with fetters and chains, and the chains had been plucked asunder by him, and the fetters broken in pieces: neither could any man tame him. And always, night and day, he was in the mountains, and in the tombs, crying, and cutting himself with stones. But when he saw Jesus afar off, he ran and worshipped him, And cried with a loud voice, and said, What have I to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of the most high God? I adjure thee by God, that thou torment me not. For he said unto him, Come out of the man, thou unclean spirit. And he asked him, What is thy name? And he answered, saying, My name is Legion: for we are many. And he besought him much that he would not send them away out of the country. Now there was there nigh unto the mountains a great herd of swine feeding. And all the devils besought him, saying, Send us into the swine, that we may enter into them. And forthwith Jesus gave them leave. And the unclean spirits went out, and entered into the swine: and the herd ran violently down a steep place into the sea, (they were about two thousand;) and were choked in the sea.

    Just like the Legion of NorthWest Division of Lunatic Moonbats!

  40. 43

    janet s spews:

    First, the event was not last night, it was April 3. Way to go on sharp reporting and getting those nasty details right.

    Second, why are free speech rights only for those on the left? Throwing things at anyone is an act to deny someone their right of free speech. Encouraging others to act in this manner could be seen as inciting riot.

    So not only can you not report well, you don’t care about the Constitution.

  41. 44

    headless lucy spews:

    re 40: Have a nice day celebrating the resurrection of your invisible friend, Jesus.

    Tell everyone you meet that you have a supernatural invisible friend that you can ask favors of and he will grant them.

    Furthermore, inform them that if they suffer from a mental disease that Jesus will solve the problem by banishing the “demons” into a herd of pigs.

    I wish my tax money could go to an educational institution that would teach my children about such useful things.

  42. 45

    Don Joe spews:

    You know, I’ve always thought that Christians with a penchant for quoting the Bible at other people should try reading Matt. 7 to themselves.

  43. 46

    headless lucy spews:

    re 41: Show me where in the Constitution that it forbids offering nutricious fresh vegetables to political hacks who break the law.

  44. 47

    KARL ROVE DANCES LIKE A DOUGHBOY spews:

    WHAT IS THE REAL REASON OPERATIVE KARL ROGUE IS VISITING SEATTLE?

    1. THE STATED REASON?

    2. THE REAL REASON?

    WILL THE HANDPICKED WASHINGTON STATE REPUBLICAN US ATTORNEY BE ON HAND TO GREET MR. ROGUE? WILL THE NEW REPUBLICAN US ATTORNEY BE DANCING TO KARL ROGUE’S WHITE HOUSE TUNES?

    STAY TUNED FOLKS.

  45. 48

    robin spews:

    Seattle Jew,

    While I love your idea of the screw rove photo-op, I doubt you will get away with it. The YR idiots that Goldy describes will be all over the place on the look out for pranksters. “The boys” will be well dressed, clean cut sorts (the type who get smarter when they put the tie on) who I’m certain worship rover, and want to grow up just like him. They will be reading this and organizing the look-outs. The crowd will be made up of the above mentioned YR security force ‘the boys’, god squad type pco’s, a smathering of very stupid elected officials (who will slip away prior to the photo-op) and a few business types. Years ago I was what they refer to now as a RINO.

  46. 49

    janet s spews:

    Lucy – your ugly identity will finally be revealed when your arrest for assaulting Karl Rove appears on the evening news.

    I think it is funny that you all are willing to risk going to jail over BDS. Mr. Rove just seems to get under you skin.

    Of course, this is Seattle. No one will be arrested, even if someone is killed, per orders from the top.

  47. 50

    Puddybud Now has a Doppelganger spews:

    Janet S: Headlice challenged me to a “meeting” at the Bellevue Cheesecake Factory.

    Too bad Headlice only knows hate.

  48. 51

    headless lucy spews:

    re 47: You are so correct. I personally have the ear of Napoleon Solo and Ilya Kuriakin.

    So watch your step and I hope you like tomatoes!

  49. 52

    headless lucy spews:

    re 48: But by the saving grace of my invisible good buddy, Jesus H. Christ, I am totally forgiven.

    YAY for ME!!!!!!

  50. 53

    Puddybud Now has a Doppelganger spews:

    Hmmm… Maybe it would be a hoot to meet Karl. He needs a few copies of this ASSWipes blog for his ride back to WA DC.

    I’m sure the October & May Merry Fitzmas posts will bring good a laugh to him.

  51. 54

    Puddybud Now has a Doppelganger spews:

    You have to believe in Him Headlice. You admitted above you don’t. So His saving grace is lost on you. But the demons know you well.

  52. 55

    janet s spews:

    Headless believes more in the likes of Nancy Pelosi, new savior of the world and self-proclaimed president of the US. The Syrians love her, the Egyptians applaud her.

    The Israelis denounce her as a liar, and the reformers in Syria and Lebanon claim she has set back any progress toward a free society many, many years.

    Yes, Headless, your goddess. Death and destruction follow in her path.

  53. 56

    Puddybud Now has a Doppelganger spews:

    Don Joe: Judging? Your side on ASSWipes judges us everyday

    Neocons
    Fascists
    Nazis
    etc.

  54. 57

    Don Joe spews:

    Puddy,

    1) I didn’t suggest that you stop reading at verse 1. Indeed, I strongly urge you read the whole chapter, particularly verses 21-27.

    2) I’m not a Christian, so I’m not bound by the Bible. You, on the other hand, are a very vocally professed Christian, yet you appear very much to be a Christian who, “heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not.”

  55. 58

    Don Joe spews:

    Ah, I see Janet S could well benefit from a reading of Matt. 7 as well.

    These silly Christians whose deeds do not conform with their professions of faith. Do they think that when they say, “I believe,” they will not be put to test?

  56. 59

    Don Joe spews:

    Another thought for you self-proclaimed Christians, starting with your own premise that God is all-powerful: God wins. God doesn’t need you. You need God. Think about that the next time you feel moved to do “God’s work.”

  57. 60

    Janet SS spews:

    Here’s the deal. When you guys are in the White House we do everything in our power to undermine executive authority (and make no doubt about it, we did a great job of it under both Carter and Clinton). But when we’re in power you guys need to shut up and let us screw things up all by our lonesome. And if you don’t, we will ruthlessly criticize you for everything we did.

    See, the great thing about being a Republican is that we don’t have to hold to any principles except political expediency. For us, gaining and holding power is everything. Ethics? That’s for losers.

    I’m a winner. Always. Got that?

  58. 61

    RightEqualsStupid spews:

    Janet S reminds me of the old saying…

    Some people are only alive because it’s against the law to kill them.

    Fuck you Janet you traitor.

  59. 62

    spews:

    Robin

    Are you the loverly former candidate for the S???

    If so, I need a date fr that night (wife won’t go!) and Rove is a lot more likley to kiss a bepearled lady than a yarmkalled yid.

  60. 63

    Janet SS spews:

    I love to taunt you folks so that you’ll say outrageous things we can use against you in the future (see No. 61).

    It’s like Lucy with the football. Works every time. God I love this job!

  61. 64

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @29 Bring the photo to Montlake Ale House at the next DL. Also, bring some darts.

  62. 65

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @37 Isn’t it glorious that even assholes like Puddy, MTR, and — yes — Karl Rove can get redemption? Man, if THEY can get saved, it should be a cakewalk for the rest of us!!

  63. 66

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @38 “Anyhow, worst case I will get thrown out.”

    No, worst case, a bunch of private security guards posing as Secret Service agents will “arrest” you, pull your hair, drag you outside, stomp on your chest to break your ribs, run over you with an SUV, and leave you for dead on the curb.

  64. 67

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @41 Yes, Pudwhacker, even YOU can get saved! Isn’t it glorious? But first, you have to admit that you have sinned. This isn’t hard. All you do is get down on your knees and tilt your head back to the heavens and clasp your front paws and say, “Lord, I have sinned. I am a Republican. Please forgive me.” Then wait for the lightning bolt.

  65. 68

    Tree Frog Farmer spews:

    @67 Roger, I gotta love that use of renewable energy. . .but a “lightning bolt” sounds awfully Olympian. . .and vaguely pagan. It would sound more biblical if it were a a plague of boils, f’rinstance.

  66. 70

    janet s spews:

    Don Joe – why in the heck are you telling me read Matthew 7? I’ve never stated what my beliefs are, but was responding to Lucy who is so sure that there is no god. I was trying to help it find another leader, that of the goddess Nancy.

    And Rights – what did I say that made you so angry? Too bad Goldy doesn’t keep an eye on stolen names or death threats.

    Oh, that’s right, he is on the radio and can’t keep any of this in check.

  67. 71

    Don Joe spews:

    So, Janet, tell us that you’re not a Christian, and I’ll retract the statement. Until then, I’ll repeat my suggestion that you read Matt. 7. And don’t stop at verse 1 like Puddy did.

  68. 72

    Puddybud Now has a Doppelganger spews:

    Don Joe: Quoting from something you don’t believe. Next you’ll quote from the Koran? The Torah? The Talmud? You dare step into a camp where you have no knowledge but you whip out proof texts for your “attacks”.

    What happened to verses 9, 13, 15 or 24 Don Joe? Very useful against your arguments! Especially the house story.

    Waaaaaaa haaaaaaa haaaaaaa HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR

    Nuff Said!

  69. 73

    Don Joe spews:

    Silly Puddy,

    So many things I have to explain to you. You have eyes, but you do not see; ears, but you do not hear; neither do you understand.

    You fail to grasp the distinction between belief and knowledge. Whether or not I believe the Bible is rather irrelevant. You are the professed Christian, which means you are bound by its precepts. When I pointed that your conduct does not accord with those precepts, your excuse was that, because a bunch of people who are not bound by its precepts don’t live up to them, it’s somehow OK for you to not live up to those precepts. If your profession of faith does not manifest itself in deeds, then your profession of faith is empty.

    As for other verses of Matthew, the section that begins with verse 15 is one of my favorites. Unfortunately, you, like most Christians, stop reading at verse 15. “By their fruits ye shall know them.” Not only does Jesus warn us about false prophets, He gives us a standard we can use to tell the difference between true and false prophets.

    The question that no Christian has ever been able to answer for me is, if we would never have to distinguish between true and false prophets, why did Jesus give us a standard by which we can tell truth from falsehood?

  70. 74

    spews:

    Looks like Orbi’s unhinged hard-on for Goldy just won’t go down.

    On Orbusmax today:
    710 KIRO TALK SHOW HOST INCITING VIOLENCE?”Hmm. Rove will be in town, celebrating Abraham Lincoln’s assassination with the King County Republicans this Saturday, April 14. Perhaps we should organize him a big Seattle welcome, WTO style?…”

    Uh, no Orbi. Inciting violence would involve directly advocating actual violence against Rove/friends/family.
    Rove faces “WTO style” protests at every event is because he’s a soon-to-be indicted head-conspirator. It’s called Occam’s Razor, bub.

    Funny how someone who pretends to understand the Constitution… oh, nevermind.

  71. 75

    Amazed spews:

    Why has the Democratic Party turned themselves into the party of hate?

    Has it ever occured to anyone that it is unhealthy to let yourself be consumed by hate?

    It is an embarrasment to the Democratic party to crash a private event no matter what you think of this guy.

    No class.

  72. 76

    Damail spews:

    More proof on the hatred and the sheer evil of the radical left. I wish I could be up there to get in your faces and counter-protest.

  73. 77

    spews:

    Give us all a GIANT fuggin break Amazed. Thanks for calling-out the black pot, Mr. Kettle

    First off, let’s start with Karl Rove’s total racist ratfucking of John McCain. If that doesn’t count as hatred (ie the stoking of “southern sensibilities”), than I don’t know what does. If this kind of brown-shirt mobilization doesn’t deserve some sort of counter-demonstration, again ^

    Secondly, the grand-championship of neo-brownshirt mobilization (in all it’s derivations) will always go to Freepers

    See the following:

    News Poll Freeping(note: these are never scientific polls, so no one should ever give 2 shits anyway)

    Freepers Supporting Bush moral bankruptcy via demonstration crashing

    Posting address of so-called “opponents” with veiled threats

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    Nog spews:

    I am amazed at how witty you people are!!! Wow no wonder your ideas are so powerful and your arguments so strong that you have to resort to calling names with in minutes of a debate. Wow I am in the company of the elite WOW!!! I do not know what to say Wow!! I amamazed that you people and your kind are not running the contry not to mention the world. Wow what can I say… Oh I know “USEFUL IDIOTS”