Weekend Roundup

- The group Patients Against New Approach Washington sent the New Approach Washington campaign a letter outlining their concerns over the DUI provisions in Initiative 502. Earlier this week, I discussed why these limits aren’t just unscientific, but could lead to unnecessarily overburdening a system that’s already not very good at keeping dangerous drivers off the roads.

– The RAND Corporation released a study from Los Angeles that showed that when medical marijuana dispensaries are closed, the amount of crime in the immediate area increases. The study looked at the 10 day windows before and after Los Angeles shut down over 70% of its dispensaries. They found that crime around the closed dispensaries was 60% greater than around the dispensaries that continued to operate. This is just another reminder that anyone who calls medical marijuana dispensaries “magnets for crime” is either unaware of how magnets work, or is completely full of shit.

– The White House is once again using the internet to find out what issues “We the People” want the government to deal with. And once again, a petition to end marijuana prohibition is winning by a lot. Even Mexican President Felipe Calderon is starting to come around on this, but it’s still pretty clear no one in the White House is willing to listen. Same for Canada.

– This past Wednesday, I went to an event sponsored by MAPS. They continue to do a lot of great work on finding PTSD treatments, but continue to run into roadblocks from the drug war. Despite that, the evidence continues to pile up that they’re on to something.

– New York is finally cracking down on the very cynical way that they trick people (read: minorities) into more serious drug offenses by having them show their drugs to them.

– It’s good to be reminded that police officers don’t always tell the truth.

– Some Texas cops had a fun night.


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    Roger Rabbit spews:

    “Some Texas cops had a fun night.” Viz.,

    “Three Houston police officers are under investigation after claims they got high while on duty.”


    “It was the only time I ever went into combat stoned,” Peter C. Lemon told reporters after receiving the Medal of Honor. “All the guys were heads. We’d sit around smoking grass and getting stoned.”


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    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Grass enhances performance. Just ask any rabbit. A rabbit will tell you he feels hoppier after eating grass. It gives you energy.

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    Michael spews:

    Two Tacoma cops were convicted of perjury yesterday. I haven’t paid much attention to the case, but from what I’ve heard it sounded more like a technical thing than anything truly evil.

    A Pierce County jury on Friday convicted two sheriff’s deputies of pejuring themselves during a court hearing last year.
    The verdict reduced one of the deputies – Jeff Montgomery – to tears and drew gasps from supporters of the two men.
    One juror also wiped at tears as Superior Court Judge John Hickman read the verdict forms just before 3 p.m. Jurors later told attorneys in the case they were convinced of the men’s guilt but found deliberations emotionally draining.

    Read more: http://www.thenewstribune.com/.....z1Yuy1r9Sv

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    Chris spews:

    @8 The H spelling is the old time spelling. Sometimes laws are written with H spelling to keep consistency.

    Also, those studies show that dispensaries are magnets for crime. They are lying when they say that, its just magnets with the same polarity that they are referring to.

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    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Guns Don’t Kill People Dep’t

    An Issaquah high school football game was interrupted this afternoon when armed cops swarmed the field and hustled players, coaches, and spectators under bleachers while a SWAT team surrounded, and then killed, a crazy man firing a rifle and handgun. Fortunately, nobody was killed except the shooter. This obviously could have been real bad — a deranged gunman with a high-powered bolt-action rifle and a handgun in a crowded high school football stadium …

    But hey, Wisconsin GOP legislators think anyone should be able to get a gun without a background check and carry it anywhere without a permit, including high school stadiums.

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    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Hey, if Republicans can have guns, then so can I, and believe, I do — so if that Breitbart guy wants to start a civil war, then let it begin at my burrow, after dark, over by the big tree on the east side of the park … heh, just kidding, wingnut joke! Everyone knows we liberals won’t defend ourselves, we’ll just let the wingnuts mow us down, like the Nazis did to the Jews, gypsies, and socialists.

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    Roger Rabbit spews:

    If Nazis were leftists, as some righties assert, how come they exterminated socialists, communists, and other leftists? Just wondering.

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    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Gun nuts, racists, adulterers, draft dodgers, book burners, global warming deniers, birthers, etc. — it seems like the GOP has become a collection point for society’s most obnoxious people.

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    Michael spews:

    You forgot the gays. Nazi’s went after them as well.

    I’m glad Wes Clark Jr’s on our side.

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    Michael spews:

    Pretty much. There was this loud-mouthed, far right, Mil. blogger Bill something or other that lived a little south of Spokane that just loved to talk about right and wrong and all this moral crap. Well, it turns out that good old Bill was fooling around on his wife. You could pretty much tell when he’d been “out on the town” cause the next day he’d post some longwinded blather about right and wrong and how the liberals are evil. I guess us liberals forced him to cheat on his wife.

    Last I heard his wife had left him & he’d married the other woman. He seems to have taken his blog down.

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    Roger Rabbit spews:

    “In the face of years of scientific findings and growing impacts, the doubters persist.

    “They ignore long-term trends and seize on insignificant year-to-year blips in data to claim all is well. They focus on minor mistakes in thousands of pages of peer-reviewed studies to claim all is wrong. And they carom from one explanation to another for today’s warming Earth: jet contrails, sunspots, cosmic rays, natural cycles.

    “‘Ninety-eight percent of the world’s climate scientists say it’s for real, and yet you still have deniers,’ observed former U.S. Rep. Sherwood Boehlert, a New York Republican who chaired the House’s science committee.”

    Yeah, and one of those deniers is our friend puddydope, who must be getting paid by somebody to pollute HA’s comment threads with some of the most senseless tripe every posted anywhere.

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    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Recently our friend puddydope posted a comment about a federal scientist being investigated for allegedly faking a report of drowned polar bears. This, puddydope believes, proves anthropomorphic climate change is a hoax. So this must mean all the satellites photos of shrinking glaciers and icecaps were photoshopped. Yup, them evul scientists are out to hoodwink us all into believing in climate changes so we’ll stop driving our cars, because they want the streets to ride their bicycles on.

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    Michael spews:


    If Nazis were leftists, as some righties assert,

    Prior to The Night Of The Long Knives there were socialists in the Nazi Party. After the Night Of The Long Knives all the socialist were either dead or in hiding. Mr. Krupp and a couple other rich industrialists who were bankrolling the Nazi’s didn’t like the socialists and said they were going to stop funding the Nazi’s if good old Adolph couldn’t make them disappear.

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    Michael spews:

    More shootings.

    1 killed, 8 hurt in shooting at South L.A. party
    A man at the party described the scene as ‘chaos,’ saying, ‘People were panicking, running, dropping to the floor.… All the fences were toppled.’

    A football player at Division II Central State University of Wilberforce, Ohio, died after being shot at a Dayton, Ohio, nightclub, and an arrest warrant has been issued for the man suspected of shooting into the club, killing the player and wounding another student, authorities said Friday.
    Kordero Hunter, 21, of South Holland, Ill., in suburban Chicago, died at a hospital Friday morning of a gunshot wound to the abdomen, said Ken Betz, director of the Montgomery County Coroner’s Office in Dayton, in southwest Ohio.
    Read more: http://www.thenewstribune.com/.....z1YvdNomr5

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    Michael spews:

    Wait, I’m not done yet.

    Quincy Shooting Leaves One Dead, Shooter Still Missing
    Posted: 11:31 am PDT September 24, 2011
    Updated: 6:35 pm PDT September 24, 2011
    QUINCY – Wash. — Quincy Police are looking for an alleged suspect in a shooting that killed one person Friday night.
    The Grant county Coroner confirms 40 year-old Quincy resident Ramiro Munoz, Jr. was the man killed in the incident.
    The shooting happened at the 100 block of First Ave NE in Quincy, Wash. at around 11:20 p.m..
    When responders arrived to the scene, they found Ramiro dead from apparent gunshot wounds.
    Detectives believe the shooting happened after Ramiro and another man got into an argument.
    Detectives also believe Ramiro used to be part of a gang.
    The shooter is still missing, and is believed to be with two other people who are also considered suspects at this time.

    4-year-old killed in accidental shooting; man charged

    By Meghan Cooke
    Posted: Saturday, Sep. 24, 2011

    A 4-year-old girl was killed Saturday afternoon in what police said was an accidental shooting in southwest Charlotte, and a man has been charged in connection with her death.

    Relatives told Observer news partner WCNC-TV that the girl’s young cousin pulled the trigger.

    Charlotte-Mecklenburg police were called to a home in the Highlands Apartments complex on Archdale Drive around 1:20 p.m. after receiving a report of a shooting.

    Read more: http://www.charlotteobserver.c.....z1YveR1t5E

    Published September 24, 2011, 01:30 PM
    Shooting outside Golden Valley still under investigation
    Minnesota News
    — Authorities are still investigating the officer-involved shooting on Interstate 394 in Minnetonka that left a woman dead Thursday.

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    GOLDEN VALLEY, Minn. – Authorities are still investigating the officer-involved shooting on Interstate 394 in Minnetonka that left a woman dead Thursday.

    The freeway was closed for five hours after an officer shot the suspect who reportedly had a handgun. Cori O’Gara of Maple Plain says traffic started to slow and someone was yelling “go, go” and “down, down” and then she heard some loud pops.

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    Michael spews:

    Oops, hit submit too soon.

    Charleston Police are searching for suspects in a double shooting that happened early Saturday morning on the West Side.

    Around 1 a.m. Saturday, two separate shooting calls were reported to the Kanawha County Metro 911 center from the 800 block of Washington Street West and Garvin Avenue on the West Side.

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    Michael spews:

    Wait, there’s more.

    Shooting in Oak Park sends eight to the hospital

    Posted: Sep 24, 2011 5:18 PM PDT
    Updated: Sep 24, 2011 5:55 PM PDT
    By Tiffany Daggett – emai

    A shooting at 1010 Forest Avenue sends eight to the hospital.

    Authorities tell us eight people have been shot and some may have been children at a gathering in Oak Park.

    The crowd had gathered from the Trenholm Court Community nearby, but not all were residents of the complex.

    Another shooting at 1225 Tatum Street was in relation to the shooting at Oak Park.

    Details are limited at this time, but stay with WSFA 12 News for more details as they develop.

    Double Shooting In the Bronx, 1 Man Dead
    Updated: Saturday, 24 Sep 2011, 7:38 PM EDT
    Published : Saturday, 24 Sep 2011, 7:38 PM EDT
    MYFOXNY.COM – Police say one man was killed and another injured when they were shot early Saturday morning in the Bronx.
    According to police, they responded to a call of a shooting at the intersection of Cedar Avenue and Sedgwick Avenue in the Morris Heights section.
    Police found two men with gunshot wounds. The first victim, a 20-year old man was shot in the torso and the second victim, a 56-year old man was shot in the arm.

    Read more: http://www.myfoxny.com/dpp/new.....z1Yvg2nyU3

    SALT LAKE CITY (AP) — Police are investigating whether the critical shooting of two teens on a west Salt Lake City street was gang related.

    Police Lt. Brian Purvis says a man in a silver, four-door Volkswagen Jetta pulled along side the 17- and 18-year-old boys on the sidewalk and started arguing about 10:45 p.m. Friday.

    He told the Deseret News multiple gunshots ensued, hitting the teens in the back and legs. They were taken to a local hospital and reported in critical condition.

    Purvis doesn’t don’t know if they too were armed. He says the suspect ran back to his car and drove away.

    Lt. J.R. Nelson told the Salt Lake Tribune the gang unit is handling the investigation. But Purvis says they don’t have a motive and aren’t sure if gangs were involved.

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    Yeah, that was interesting. Chris is likely right that the laws in NY use that spelling, so they followed suit. I could look that up, but I want to watch the rest of this Sounders game… :)

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    Michael spews:

    Well, this is interesting.

    An analysis of educational attainment among foreign-born adults in the nation’s 100 largest
    metropolitan areas reveals that:
    n The share of working-age immigrants in the United States who have a bachelor’s degree
    has risen considerably since 1980, and now exceeds the share without a high school
    diploma. In 1980, just 19 percent of immigrants aged 25 to 64 held a bachelor’s degree, and
    nearly 40 percent had not completed high school. By 2010, 30 percent of working-age immigrants
    had at least a college degree and 28 percent lacked a high school diploma.
    n Forty-four (44) of the nation’s 100 largest metropolitan areas are high-skill immigrant
    destinations, in which college-educated immigrants outnumber immigrants without high
    school diplomas by at least 25 percent. These destinations include large coastal metro areas
    like San Francisco and Washington, D.C. The 30 low-skill destinations, in which the relative
    sizes of these immigrant skill groups are reversed, include many in the border states of the
    West and Southwest, as well as in the Great Plains.
    n Immigrants’ skill levels vary by metropolitan area due to historical settlement patterns
    and economic structures. In former immigration destinations, or “gateways,” with low levels
    of contemporary immigration such as Detroit, and re-emerging gateways such as Philadelphia,
    immigrants have high levels of educational attainment. In established post-World War II
    immigration gateways such as Houston, and minor-continuous gateways along the U.S.-Mexico
    border and in interior California, low-skilled immigrants predominate.

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    Politically Incorrect spews:


    Just got my NRA magazine the other day – “The American Rifleman.” Had a little story about a petite litle lady blowing away some guy who was just about to kill her. Cops ruled it a suicide – the criminal picked the wrong lady to attack and attempt to murder.

    More guns = less crime

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    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @30 Little old ladies don’t seem to be the problem. How often do you read in the papers about a little old lady rampaging through a high school or IHOP? If we take guns away from angry white men, that’ll solve 97% of the problem.

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    Roger Rabbit spews:

    It’s no secret that Obama is in serious trouble with his supporters, and this news article confirms it:


    Obama’s problem is he’s trying to negotiate with people who have non-negotiable demands. To illustrate why Obama’s presidency is falling apart, let’s pretend that Obama and Boehner are two lawyers trying to settle an accident case:

    OBAMA: My client suffered serious injuries because of your client’s negligence and needs $100,000 for her medical expenses and loss of earnings.

    BOEHNER: The insurance company I represent, without conceding any fault by their insured, has authorized me to settle for $500 in the interest of avoiding litigation.

    OBAMA: Look, why don’t we split the baby and settle for $50,000?

    BOEHNER: I can go $500.

    OBAMA: Okay, now that we’re down to $50,000, how about if we split the baby again and settle for $25,000?

    BOEHNER: We’ll pay $500.

    OBAMA: $12,500?

    BOEHNER: $500.

    OBAMA: Okay, I’ll take the $500.

    Now, what kind of lawyer is that? If you were hurt in an accident and the other driver was blatantly at fault, would you want a lawyer like this representing you? Or you would feel motivated to fire him and get somebody who will do a better job of protecting your interests? If you read the article I linked to above, what you will see — over and over — is people who supported Obama in 2008 complaining that he has been too conciliatory toward Republicans who take every concession Obama offers them and give him nothing in return.

    That isn’t negotiating, it’s rolling over, and when Obama started signaling that he would make concessions on core entitlement programs like Social Security and Medicare to Republicans who were presenting those concessions as non-negotiable demands and clearly signaliing they would give nothing in return, millions of grassroots Democratic voters began to feel their vital interests are in grave danger because there is no leader in charge of their party.

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    Roger Rabbit spews:

    As bad as things are, they’re about to get worse. A European recession is certain, and it’ll drag down U.S. banks exposed to European debt and American corporations selling to European markets. Here, in a nutshell, is how Europe is unraveling:

    “Two years after the world emerged from the worst financial collapse since the 1930s, a repeat is looming. European Union officials have been unable to forge a political consensus among the union’s 17 members to head off a debt default by Greece. Some of Europe’s banks won’t have the capital to withstand the expected losses on their holdings of Greek debt. …

    “Though they’ve cobbled together a fund to backstop Greece’s $500 billion debt, it’s not enough to cope with a possible default four times as big by Italy, which is in the early stages of the downward spiral that sank Greece. ‘Greece is gone, the markets know that,’ Allen Sinai, chief economist at Decision Economics. ‘We’re now looking at … the potential for Italy going.’ …

    “Sean Egan, an analyst following the debt crisis at Egan-Jones Ratings Co., told CNBC [e]ven … it’s more than the stronger European countries can manage. ‘Germany, which is held up normally as a savior, has total debt in the area of 1.5 trillion euros ($2 trillion),’ he said. ‘It’s unlikely they’re going to be willing to double their debt to bail out the periphery countries. That is the basic problem.’ …

    “Compared to their European counterparts, U.S. banks are relatively well capitalized to withstand another financial crisis. And despite recent attacks by Republican members of congress and presidential candidates, the Federal Reserve remains … ready to backstop the U.S. financial system if another meltdown were to happen. American companies, having paid down debts and raised mountains of cash since the Panic of 2008, are also better positioned to weather another financial shock.

    “But with a housing market mired in a four-year recession, unemployment at 9.1 percent and governments around the world slashing spending, the global economy would enter a new recession in much worse shape than when the last one hit in 2007.”


    Roger Rabbit Commentary: Here’s an example of how Europe is affecting a U.S. company. You’ve heard of Aflac, the insurance company that runs the duck commercials, right? Aflac was almost completely protected from the Great Recession because it does three-fourths of its business in Japan. But Aflac’s investment portfolio is top-heavy with vulnerable European bonds. Aflac is writing off nearly $1 billion of those investments this year, and is expected to lose another $1.2 billion in Europe next year. (If you’re wondering why Aflac’s stock is so cheap right now, that’s why.) And Aflac’s situation isn’t unique. Europe now faces defaults that could total in the trillions, bank runs and bank collapses, the breakup of the European Union, and the collapse of the euro currency. And politically hamstrung governments throughout the world, including ours, are nearly powerless to stop it — even though it could be stopped by timely action.

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    Roger Rabbit spews:

    I don’t know what possessed Obama to think he could negotiate with a political party whose supporters hope this is the end times, would welcome the death of civilization, and are looking forward to a mass rapture of souls to the afterlife. How the fuck do you negotiate with suicidal maniacs? A rational leader would put the SWAT team and Delta Force on standby before trying to talk the GOP into putting down their bombs and stepping back.

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    PI, I will defend everyone’s right to own a gun for self-defense, but there’s no evidence anywhere that says that more guns leads to less crime. That’s a fantasy.

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    Roger Rabbit spews:

    See? The Rich DO Create Jobs!!!

    “The wealthy are still skiing, and that helps Vail Resorts’ bottom line, Chief Executive Robert Katz told CNBC Thursday.

    “‘Upper-income consumers are actually doing much better,’ he said. ‘We have an average household income of about $200,000 amongst our guests, which we think is a pretty good place to be right now.’

    “Business has been so good, in fact, that Vail Resorts has posted double-digit growth in earnings … over the past couple of years despite the choppy economy, Katz said.”


    Roger Rabbit Commentary: So, if you need a job, pack up your camper and head for Vail to apply for a ski-lift operator job at $6.50 an hour. Ooops, there are already 10 million applicants in line ahead of you!

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    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Guns Don’t Kill People Dep’t

    Police found 5 dead bodies in southeastern Indiana today. Initial reports indicate the victims had been shot.


    Roger Rabbit Commentary: We all know guns don’t kill people — it’s homicidal maniacs holding guns and pulling triggers that kills people! We obviously shouldn’t let homicidal maniacs get guns. But Wisconsin’s GOP legislators think anyone should be able to get a gun without a background check, and anyone should be able to carry a gun anywhere without a permit. Why would anyone vote for those asswipes?

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    Roger Rabbit spews:

    It’s no longer possible to get through a weekend without a mass killing somewhere in the United States.

  29. 39

    Michael spews:

    Overall, crimes down. But yeah, the mass shooting are starting to pile up. We’ve got a lot of stressed out folks with a lot of fire power.

  30. 40

    Michael spews:


    SPOKANE — Authorities say a fire broke out in the Garland District in Spokane just before 9:00 p.m. Sunday night.
    The fire quickly spread to nearby restaurants of the Milk Bottle and Ferguson’s Cafe.
    Crews are on the scene. Watch KREM 2 News at 11:00 for the latest details.

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    Puddybud, who read how the arschloch "I live off the net" all day spews:

    Puddy Commentary: We all know guns don’t kill people — it’s homicidal maniacs holding guns and pulling triggers that kills people! We obviously shouldn’t let homicidal maniacs get guns. But California’s DUMMOCRAPTIC legislators think anyone should be able to get a gun without a background check, and anyone should be able to carry a gun anywhere without a permit. Look at all those killings in California cities since DUMMOCRAPTS run the CA Legislature. Why would anyone vote for those ASSwipes?

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    Puddybud, who read how the arschloch "I live off the net" all day spews:

    Out of their own mouths they say:

    POTUS also quoted “my friend Joe Biden,” who likes to say, “Don’t compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative.”

    Finally they are comparing themselves correctly!

    You can find that in the Politico!

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    Puddybud, who read how the arschloch "I live off the net" all day spews:

    So Barack ObamAA+ criticizes Perry over his stance on climate change while Barack ObamAA+’s Forest Service does what?

    Nearly half of the federal government’s firefighting air tankers are siting idle at a California airport, grounded by the Obama administration in a contract dispute just weeks before wildfires swept through Texas killing a mother and her child, and destroying 100,000 acres.

    PuddyCommentary: It’s always create a crisis then use it for political hay with DUMMOCRAPTS

  34. 47

    Liberal Scientist wonders when Republicans will be done with the charade and finally just start using the Hitler Salute spews:

    How predictable…though I suppose a piece of code should be predictable.

    What the ‘Pud’ algorithm refers to is police brutality, which ‘he’ appears to celebrate and use to jeer at people he finds ‘other’, like the simpleton ‘he’ is.

    Peaceful protesters in NYC, gathering Wall Street to highlight the gulf between the rich Masters of the Universe and the rest of us, particularly those without jobs/homes/hope/food, were rounded up in a confined space and were assaulted by cops with pepper spray.

    Per pudiot’s own link:

    …march against social inequality turned violent.

    Witnesses said they saw three stunned women collapse on the ground screaming after they were sprayed in the face.

    …uniformed officers had corralled the women using orange nets when two supervisors made a beeline for the women, and at least one suddenly sprayed the women before turning and quickly walking away.

    Brownshirts in action. And this is what pudiot celebrates – what a fucktard.