The other day, I linked to the Washington State Redistricting Commission’s legislative district maps. Now they have Congressional District maps. Very exciting.
Do the maps make sense for your community? Are you upset about them? Are you just dreading having to learn new Representatives? Rant about it here, or make your voice heard by contacting the commission.
And, hey, please wash your hands right now. And get vaccinated if you haven’t yet.
Whidbey Island has an electoral Mason-Dixon line. Right about mid-Coupeville, everyone south of it votes Democrat and everyone north of it votes Republican. The NYT study, which separately listed every zip code and the 2016 candidate it voted for, did a nice job delineating it.
Joe Fain’s map assigns north Whidbey into CD2 and south Whidbey into CD10. Gives Rick Larsen quite a few more Republicans to contend with, although Larsen will still win handily. Hell, I voted for him.
None of the other three maps split Whidbey. Since splitting Whidbey doesn’t materially harm Larsen and because it helps the Democrat in CD10 by assigning more Democrat voters to her district, I don’t know why Fain did it.
Dumping the filibuster so that YLB can stay home and get paid is good.
Dumping the filibuster to prevent economic calamity is bad.
Biden opposes changing Senate rules to raise debt limit
Nice to see that liberal have their priorities straight.
VA Republicans Jump to In-Person Early Voting Lead, Model Shows
It’s early, sure. But it’s not something easily spun to Democrat advantage, is it?
#FJB
Well, having senators visit the White House didn’t work.
I wonder if First Vegetable Joe Biden will walk down the middle of the street to Capitol Hill, West Wing-style.
The idea that we can just have open borders is something that, as a practical matter, is unsustainable
Manchinema.
Not helping.
Not one bit. If this was helping, First Vegetable Joe Biden wouldn’t be considering @ 4 a hat-in-hand trip to Capitol Hill.
4,7,
Burka Bob forgets that Democratic Presidents are not interested in being “President for Life”, Supreme Beloved Leader, or “Il Duce”.
The branches are coequal. And most members of Congress will be around long after Joe Biden retires after his second triumphant term of office.
If the President visits a Senator in their office, I’ll wager it’s more likely to convey specific future expectations rather than to beg concessions. If Manchin and Sinema are unable to articulate their specific demands when invited to do so in the privacy of the President’s office, then courtesy dictates they be told what consequences to expect in the comfort of their own.
5,
That statement, as a practical matter, is meaningless.
That’s why Congress votes and approves federal laws governing how movement and immigration across international borders is to be regulated. And it’s why those laws, widely supported at their passage by Republicans, include provisions for refugees, and political asylum seekers. If Republicans now wish to change those laws they should propose legislation, instead of parking cars.
@1 The Republicans are trying to shape things so they can stay relevant, they are tired of constantly losing state-wide positions.
Take a drive in Eastern WA, you still see Culp signs up. They need to get a grip on reality.
Their best shot is to make their own state. Instead of calling something crazy, like “Freedom” or “Liberty”, they should just name it “Bundy”. The right-wingers like you will change city names to the likes of “Cliven” and “Ammon”, but the rest of us will know it for the true namesake, Al.
@ 10
Take a drive in Eastern WA, you still see Culp signs up.
Take a drive into Langley on Whidbey Island, you still see Hope and Change bumper stickers.
Machts nichts.
I continue to advocate redrawing Washington’s congressional districts into 10 horizontal stripes, so e.g. Pullman and Chehalis are in the same district, and all our members of Congress are from western Washington. This is no more outrageous than Republican gerrymandering is.
@1 How about if we saw off the northern section and tow it out to sea?
@11 Take a drive into Langley on Whidbey Island, you still see Hope and Change bumper stickers.
True dat, but “Hope and Change” won (2 terms I might add), Culp lost by the biggest margin in years, to a third-term governor that wasn’t all that popular.
Burka Bob, spiking the ball and hip thrusts on the 5-yard line.
@ 14
Inslee did pretty well in November.
Considering all governors in 2020, I’m hard-pressed to name one who handled the outbreak in his/her state better than he did.
Eliminate Biden and Harris from the 2024 ticket, who would you substitute? Inslee would make a compelling VP nominee. Not sure he’s got the chops to be backed successfully for the top of the ticket.
@15
Yeah, he did “pretty good” and I think he has done a great job with COVID, however I’m tired of him and wanted someone else for a “breath of fresh air” so to speak. You can’t tell me out of all the people in this state we can’t find better candidates?
So the choice was between Culp, an complete misfit for higher elected office, or another 4 years of Inslee. A cinder block would have gathered more votes than Culp. Better yet, the R’s should have run a goat instead of Culp, because that is a candidate most Republicans “can stand behind.”
Regressive taxes under consideration in the $3.5T “zero cost” boondoggle:
1. Cigarette
2. Vaping
3. First-use plastics
I don’t object to any of them. It won’t be me paying them. Which should clue libbies in that something is wrong with them. They are aimed at lower-income Americans.
[Deleted – duplicate of @ 17]
@ 16
You can’t tell me out of all the people in this state we can’t find better candidates?
I could ask the same, substituting “nation” for state and shifting the discussion from governor to president.
@3 Yawn. Republicans always lead in-person voting. And those ballots get counted first. Then they declare victory, and when mail ballots come in, and Democratic votes are counted, they cry “fraud!” and “stolen election!”
Yawn again. We’ve seen this movie before. It doesn’t improve in the remakes.
@5 We don’t have open borders. We have porous borders, and vanity walls don’t make them less porous.
@11 No equivalency. Obama won and changed the country. Culp lost and couldn’t even get his day job back.
@19
Agreed, same statement applies. Trump is one of the worst candidates ever. The R’s don’t have better people to trot out and run? Same with Biden, you can’t tell me we can’t find anything other than two old white men to run for POTUS?
Biden maybe a doddering old fool, but at least he isn’t seditious or treasonous. We done worse, especially with other Republican “leaders”.
@15 Praising a Democrat? Did an epiphany fall from the sky and brain you insensible?
@16 “A cinder block would have gathered more votes than Culp.”
Probably not. Culp got 43%. When Richard Pope ran for AG against Gregoire, he got 42%. A cinder block would get about 41%, the unshakeable GOP bedrock base that will vote for anything with an R after it. So Culp improved on that by 2%, and Pope by 1%. Trump got 39% last year. Note Culp did 4% better than Trump in that election.
@17 “They are aimed at lower-income Americans.”
You could have said “Trump voters,” but chose not to. Presumably because “lower-income Americans” sounds more respectable.
@19 We probably have different understandings of what “better candidates” mean.
Say, didn’t you just say yesterday that you would support DeSantis or Abbott for president.
On a strictly relative basis, compared to Trump, I suppose you could argue they’re “better” candidates. It’s not a real moving argument, though.
The Seattle rioter who torched police cars and committed other acts of destruction has pleaded guilty and as part of the deal the prosecutors will recommend only 5 years in the pen.
https://www.king5.com/article/news/crime/margaret-channon-torch-seattle-police-cars-may-2020-protest/281-f68cd964-0381-4a1e-86cf-dcb2bee89eb3
24,
Had Inslee served the last four years as the Democratic Governor of Kentucky, MAGA-Teen would have donned a ski mask and pipe-bombed his home. And Burka Bob would have driven the getaway mobility scooter.
Cryin’-Bitch Bobby’s “praise” is all situational.
Yesterday I posted that I wouldn’t be a landlord in Seattle. I’m not the only one.
https://www.king5.com/article/news/local/seattle/small-landlords-worry-new-rental-rules-are-forcing-them-out-of-seattle/281-b82d5587-a53d-4444-b7fe-39dc87e796c3
I’m sympathetic to tenants, who deserve protection from bad landlords, but if you go too far and turn landlords into tenant welfare providers, you’re not gonna have landlords.
Another high profile rioter pleads guilty.
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/09/29/olympic-swimmer-klete-keller-to-plead-guilty-in-trump-capitol-riot.html
@ 30
Yesterday I posted that I wouldn’t be a landlord in Seattle.
You have shared too much about yourself, Robinhood Dumbfuck Rabbit. All of us realize that you cannot afford to own a second property. You’re lower middle classless, at best.
Or were you just thinking of renting out your basement for extra income?
When Joe Biden comes to Capitol Hill, hat-in-hand, his hair plugs glow in the dark.
‘Not possible’: Joe Manchin said there’s no chance to ink a deal on a social spending package by Thursday.
Get ready to be disappointed, libbies.
Suck it, Pramila.
Cryin’-Bitch Bobby is some kind of fruity, degenerate, oddball as far as Trumpers go. Unlike the boat paraders, coal-rollers, and FUCKY YOUR FEELINGS face painters who populate and energize the Trump/GOP base, Bobby hides his bright orange light under a pile of horse shit with a Range Rover parked on top. He’s married to a dues paying SEIU member and chooses to live under a cloud of patchouli oil vapor and weather beaten prayer flags. But from behind the safety of his keyboard hidden away in a forested liberal enclave, he’s the mightiest Trump Warrior of all.
Yes, he’s hardly representative of the GOP.
And while overall the rate of smoking among whites and Blacks is the same, young white folks smoke at twice the rate of “the blacks”.
Perhaps another one of those “things” Cryin’-Bitch Bobby is clueless about is the obsessive trend among young “conservatives” to take up smoking. Just another way to “pwn the libs” I guess. Their future’s so bright they gotta wear
shadesa cannula.Are we gonna see a proxy vote in the Senate?
Somebody needs to tell Cryin’-Bitch Bobby that Jayapal serves in the House.
@ 35
And while overall the rate of smoking among whites and Blacks is the same, young white folks smoke at twice the rate of “the blacks”.
So, your point is that a tax that might hit young white people more than black people is not regressive?
If it’s a tax that preferentially affects lower income citizens, it’s regressive. Skin color is irrelevant.
Last I heard it’s a cigarette tax. Not a Newport Menthol cigarette tax.
30,
I’m certainly sympathetic. But Roger you ought to go out and find better examples. “Communal” housing that includes a garage conversion, a shed conversion, and an Airstream trailer crammed onto a neighborhood lot may be part of “the rich mosaic” of housing solutions. But it does little to refute the basic argument that exclusive/limited single family residential zoning is the problem.
@ 37
Somebody needs to tell Cryin’-Bitch Bobby that Jayapal serves in the House.
Somebody needs to tell Pramila Jayapal that Joe Manchin told her to suck it.
Jayapal either caves or Pelosi pulls the bill or Pelosi allows the bill to go down in flames, cementing a Democrat civil war and destroying any hope First Vegetable Joe Biden might have of salvaging a first year in office. Manchin is fine with any of those outcomes.
The one time I’d like to see Chuck Schumer on camera, and there’s not one around.
Senate parliamentarian rules out Democrats’ immigration plan B
Y’all happy with the circular firing squad position y’all are in?
38,
No, Dumbshit.
My point is that a tax that at most is entirely optional, disproportionately impacts the less educated and only impacts voters who smoke which aside from Duncan Hunter and Ben Shapiro is practically zero, really doesn’t matter.
Machts nichts, indeed.
It’s a weak troll. Let it go, and move on.
Are two Democrats in name only siding with the Republicans against the other Democrats and the majority of the American people, a civil war?
And then…
Heartfelt prayers among “conservatives” that The Democratic Party will MELT DOWN and GO TO WAR WITH ITSELF has been a feature of “conservative” intellectual discourse since before the last primary season. We all continue to wait breathlessly!
Meanwhile, in that same span, the acclaimed universal leader of the Republican Party has attempted to extort a foreign sovereign for his help cheating the election, has been impeached twice, has summoned a mob to kill the Congress, has called for the assassination of his own Vice President, has flipped four reliable GOP Senate seats, has targeted the reelection of the most conservative GOP member of the House, and has threatened to destroy a half dozen Republican Governors and Secretaries of State.
It’s absolutely true that the current political climate in the U.S. makes the passage of legislation a very challenging task. But only one of the two parties has actually managed to do that successfully on their own in the last three years.
Superstar.
43,
If sending an armed and violent mob of face-painted hooting muffler mechanics to kill Congress isn’t a civil war, then my answer is gonna have to be “no”.
@ 43
Are two Democrats in name only siding with the Republicans against the other Democrats and the majority of the American people, a civil war?
They are if you forget about the 60 House Democrats that Jayapal claims to have in her pocket as No votes on the bipartisan bill, The Even Bigger Fucking Moron. Those 60 Democrats would be siding against the other 170 or so, as well as the50-something Senate Democrats who say they want the $3.5T boondoggle.
When you have Biden pushing to pass the bill and Bernie telling people to vote it down, that’s a pretty big fuckin’ problem for the Dems.
Dems decided there’s a trillion dollars worth of Americans they are willing to watch die, or starve, or limp, or have to make do with only a new Toyota and three iPhones.
They’ll agree to spend “only” $2.5T if they can get Manchinema to go along.
So much for strongly held convictions.
$3.5T or anything anywhere near it is stone cold dead.
Manchin’s statement.
First Vegetable Joe Biden is one weak-ass motherfucker.
Quinnipiac is a D + 0.5 biased poll, if Nate Silver be believed. He scores it A- quality.
I love how all y’all try to tell me that Democrats are gonna flip Texas blue.
Not in this decade, libbies.
It’s more like 100 at this point demanding that Sinechin name a number before they’ll vote on the Senate’s roads and bridges. And probably more than that who support them but won’t be willing to take the “no” vote.
It’s bad politics as well as bad leadership for Pelosi to put the bill on the floor when there are even six “no” votes – because there may not be a single Republican “yes” vote for the “bipartisan” bill. And everyone agrees there’s a lot more than six Democrats willing to stop the Senate bill if Sinechin won’t fish or cut bait. Forcing all 60 or all 100 or whatever that number may be to take that vote and live with it will leave them all unable and unwilling to trust her leadership going forward. And there’s a new Congress in 2023. Memories are long. And Pelosi would like to remain Speaker for another two years at least. Pelosi isn’t going to throw away her gavel to make life easier for a posturing coal industry pimp and a jumped-up school board president with a vanity complex.
49,
Yeah, he still hasn’t named any number.
As far as anyone knows, his number is zero.
If he keeps issuing statements like that one, that’s what everyone may have to conclude. Which was always the point.
Whatever bill is passed, it adds zero to the debt. So that can’t be the zero Sinechin is worried about. He’s worried about spending more than “zero” on any of “the blacks”. And if he doesn’t come ’round, sooner or later that’s what everyone will figure out.
@32 I was thinking of renting my backyard to your horse if he wants a safe space.
@38 “So, your point is that a tax that might hit young white people more than black people is not regressive?”
No, I don’t think that was his point. The word “conservative” may provide a clue about what he did mean.
@44 “Heartfelt prayers among “conservatives” that The Democratic Party will MELT DOWN and GO TO WAR WITH ITSELF has been a feature of “conservative” intellectual discourse since before the last primary season. We all continue to wait breathlessly!”
Actually, I think more like 90 years.
@49 “First Vegetable Joe Biden is one weak-ass motherfucker.”
He isn’t Trump, and that’s good enough.
56,
He isn’t Republican.
And that’s even better.
Confidential to Steve:
Terry Kath documentary
Free, with ads.
Not insane.
But imbecilic and insufficiently cognitive, absolutely.
21,
Here’s a demonstration:
https://old.reddit.com/r/facepalm/comments/py1dtg/hows_that_border_wall_going/
Q) Are Republicans like Joe Manchin sincere about controlling spending?
A) —————————- Wall
@60 If he can do it, any kid can do it.
Q) Are Republicans like Joe Manchin sincere about controlling spending?
A) https://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/us-elections-government/ny-trump-secret-service-expenses-20210708-yf5mb2wg2bappax6j6wygm74vm-story.html
Jared’s 3rd phone still needs its own body guard.
When Sheriff Ed Troyer got drunk-scared by his paperboy just after closing time and dialed 911 sobbing in fear, over 40 different police units responded, the first within 10 minutes.
https://youtu.be/BHKrAvuDXDo
But when a North Seattle mom was attacked twice by the same man at two different Ballard grocery stores over the weekend police never responded.
https://komonews.com/news/local/the-police-never-came-seattle-mother-attacked-twice-by-same-man-while-grocery-shopping
Mrs. Hoffman’s third graders @ 60, 62
Four inches is narrower than the diameter of the average Robinhood Dumbfuck Rabbit turd.
@ 64
…police never responded.
Those calls go to some sort of Social Service response team now, QoS McHillbilly.
They are spending their first six months of existence forming an employee union, and won’t be available outside the building, or other than during hours of 8a-5p M-F, with 90 minutes for lunch mid-day.
Summer of Love, doncha know. ACAB.
Last time a Congressperson homered out of the park?
Rand Paul’s dad, 1979.
Oh. Both are GOP.
66,
40 real cops responded with guns drawn (cameras off) to help Troyer change his underwear.
Adrian Diaz sends PTA when a mother with children is violently attacked.
Blame the budget.
You and Manchinema.
But at the end of the day you, Troyer, Diaz, and every liar cop just basically admitted that they are refusing to do their jerb because butt hurtz.
@67 Serving one meatball to another.
@67 Oh, that’s right, you were a t-ball aspirant.
65,
https://old.reddit.com/r/nextfuckinglevel/comments/py8orb/the_best_use_of_border_wall/
Even the little children laugh at you.
70,
Voting “no” on everything leaves them lots of spare time to kill at the batting cages.
@72 Apparently it isn’t enough. After scraping out a 13-12 win, they’re now 3-10 since 2008. Oh, and “Rep. Jimmy Panetta (D-Calif.) … hit two triples and an inside-the-park home run.”
https://thehill.com/homenews/news/574625-gop-ekes-out-a-win-in-return-of-congressional-baseball-game
Looks like neither party has anybody who can pitch worth a damn.
The Hyde Amendment is back, bay-bee!
Manchin insists on it, or he’ll “sink” the legislation.
That’ll give AOC sumthin’ to really cry about.
Arizona libbies, about that primary challenge to Senator Sinema:
Mark Kelly will probably hold his seat. Somebody needs to control the Giffords marionette.
Sinema will certainly hold hers.
75,
An online, opt-in panel survey of registereds.
I knew there had to be some reason why the Kelly numbers were so out of whack.
Astroboy will win by ten points.
Sinema’s poll performance has lagged both Kelly’s and Bidens until Biden’s recent dips. She’s got time to change course with Arizona voters. But that also means time for a challenge campaign to come together to oppose her. She’s neither McCain nor Collins. She’s still in the business of making a first impression on most of those who voted for her in the 2018 blue wave. She came to the Senate with no natural/personal network of financial support. And she’s been slow to build one.
Obstructing party priorities may reduce her unfavorables among Republican voters in Arizona. But it is not a proven thing that this can or will translate into either voter or financial support from Republicans. Historically, it has not. Case in point. Would Burka Bob send her money? Of course not.
Distressing news for dumbfucks: Harris’ poll numbers are rising.
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/574604-harriss-poll-numbers-rise-as-bidens-fall
@76 Sinema is simply someone new to the game who’s still in the process of learning that catering to Republicans gets a Democrat nothing, so there’s absolutely no reason to do it, other than inexperience, naivete, and gullibility.
“Senior Pentagon officials said Wednesday the collapse of the Afghan government and its security forces in August could be traced to a 2020 U.S. agreement with the Taliban that promised a complete U.S. troop withdrawal. …
“The signing of the Doha agreement had a really pernicious effect on the government of Afghanistan and on its military …,” McKenzie said. He was referring to a Feb. 29, 2020, agreement that the Trump administration signed with the Taliban ….”
https://www.military.com/daily-news/2021/09/29/us-general-afghan-collapse-rooted-2020-deal-taliban.html?ESRC=eb_210930.nl
The Afghanistan debacle isn’t all Doctor Dumbfuck’s fault. Trump contributed. So did all the other dumbfucks who voted for him. But it’s partly his fault.
@ 77
Robinhood Dumbfuck Rabbit breathlessly informs us that Harris’ poll numbers are rising. What he doesn’t appreciate is that if you pack enough additional black poll respondents into a sampling, of course a black politician’s poll numbers will move positively.
Gallup does not provide any more information than this.
Steve got his ass burned by posting an oversampled poll in the Fall campaign. This is little different.
@80 In the only poll that matters, Harris was approved by more voters than Pence was. Keep licking your wounds, doc. It’s going to be a long four years for you.
Title of a piece from The AP today:
GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN
Congress moves to avert partial government shutdown, putting off potential debt ceiling crisis
Democrats were forced to remove a suspension of the federal government’s debt limit from the bill.
Democrats are weak. They are acting as if it’s 2009 again. It’s not. It’s nothing close to the advantage Democrats enjoyed in 2009.
Headlines from today’s Seattle Times:
“As COVID-19 surges among unvaccinated people, a rural hospital is seeing the effects with medical procedure delays, patient transfers and deaths.”
“Slammed by COVID, statewide system helps transfer rural Washington patients to available hospital beds”
“At Idaho hospitals, COVID-19 patients are consuming oxygen at ‘astounding rates’”
In Washington, “rural” is synonymous with “Republican.” I happened to be traveling in a rural part of Washington last weekend, and watched a guy walk right past a “Masks Required To Enter” sign into a gas station. Male, bearded, thirties, driving an old pickup, could’ve been a logger. The attendant made no attempt to enforce it. How hard is it to pull a mask over your face for the two minutes you’re inside? They’re all like that, selfish assholes — and Darwin Award candidates. Republicans are a menace to themselves and others.
@82 “Democrats are weak.”
Democrats are always weak. Always have been. Would you prefer stronger Democrats? So would I. I’ve been saying for years that Democrats should behave like Republicans. Of course, on the rare occasions when they do, you’re among the first to start screaming like a pig being dragged into a slaughterhouse.
Cops don’t do what you think they do.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GYOpeinbCc
78,
She’s new to the statewide/nationwide game. Because of the stakes we all recognize, Senate races are very different. A typical Democratic Senate campaign will pull a third of its direct money from out of state. And more than half of its affiliated money.
Moreover, and more importantly to Sinema, in Senate races partisan issues of nationwide significance play a significant role in defining voter behavior. Sinema had great success in getting socially liberal, lean Republican voters to support her in the House. But there the stakes and the issues were different. Now she has to run statewide and fundraise nationwide. And her socially liberal stances will tend to be deal breakers for the kinds of Republicans she needs to win over.
In terms of her social identification markers, to them she is a pro-bort, lesbian atheist who smokes weed. So she can win over all the Libertarian community college students. But McCain’s older, whiter voters will not choose her over a white Xtian guy in a blue suit.
And as the “senior” Senator from a swing state, it will eventually be her job to lend support to down-ballot races. It does not seem likely that her current national positioning will promote that effort. She may not be as smart as she thinks she is. If she can’t use her committee assignments to assist in that way she’ll lose them. On the other hand, if she and Manchin own up to their responsibilities in time and agree to negotiate then she may emerge from all this in an even stronger position. But I’d say that really depends on passage of both bills.
@ 86
On the other hand, if she and Manchin own up to their responsibilities in time and agree to negotiate then she may emerge from all this in an even stronger position.
You should realize that
– it was only this week that Dem leadership really began considering a $ lower than $3.5T.
– Manchin already told Schumer his top $ figure. IN JULY. It’s $1.5T. Here’s an image of his proposal, which bears his signature, and a signature of Schumer documenting Schumer’s acceptance of it, if not his agreement with its terms.
So you can put a lid on the shit about Manchin dodging responsibilities and the insinuation that he hasn’t started to negotiate. You can blame Schumer for not telling Biden what Manchin’s $ was prior to the meeting this week, or you can blame Biden for either not prepping well enough for the meeting or for acting like Manchin’s proposal to Schumer was never made.
But you really should stop blaming Manchin. There’s more detail in that one-page document he provided to Schumer than we have heard about what’s in the “framework” passed by the Senate and currently being hidden from by Pelosi.
Ya gonna cry now?
@ 87
Read Manchin’s proposal. Look at all of the increased taxation he is willing to support.
1. Topline Federal income tax of 39.6%
2. Minimum corporate tax of 15%
3. Cap gains rate of 28% (I assume that is in addition to the 3.8% NIIT)
4. Corporate tax rate of 25%
That is A LOT of taxation. Perhaps enough to exceed the $1.5T cost of reconciliation that he is willing to support.
Since that amount of taxation is pretty close to what we are told will be legislated if the $3.5T boondoggle is passed, and since we know that the expenditure is only $1.5T under Manchin’s plan, the end result is that the deficit will be decreased by TWO TRILLION DOLLARS. (Remember, reconciliation costs nothing!)
Manchin wants the additional taxes to pay down the deficit.
Really, what’s not to like? You might even get a GOP vote in the Senate.
As long as the Hyde amendment stays.
I wonder how long until we learn that Sinema, too, has already told Schumer her terms.
Probably not very.
“…I guess elect more liberals.”
Not in 2022 you won’t.
No.
I’m gonna celebrate.
Because following months of pointless delay, posturing, and preening before the cameras, Manchinema’s political performance has finally gotten the hook. And now the Budget Chair can begin negotiations on a final draft with all 50 Democrats ready to vote “yes”.
“Senate aid” is Manchin.
He blinked before Jayapal did.
You gonna cry now? Oh wait. You already do that here. Nearly every day.
I can wait.
Durham issues fresh round of subpoenas in his continuing probe of FBI investigation into Trump, Russia
She was awful. She was so fucking awful that people at the highest levels of the FBI and DOJ had to commit crimes to help her win.
It wasn’t enough.
#CrookedHillary was a once-in-a-lifetime gift to the GOP. And boy, did we ever take advantage of it.
@87 “So you can put a lid on the shit about Manchin dodging responsibilities and the insinuation that he hasn’t started to negotiate.”
Really? If Manchin was at $1.5 trillion in July, and he’s still at $1.5 trillion today, he hasn’t started to negotiate.
It would be easy to say he won’t, that for him $1.5 trillion is non-negotiable. But wait. Manchin badly wants the infrastructure bill, because it has a lot of goodies for his state. The House progressives are saying, no $3.5 trillion no infrastructure. Unless they back off, or they come down and he comes up, this ends like “Reservoir Dogs.” I think they all realize that.
92,
Exactly what are you waiting for?
If you can’t really say, it’s probably not as big as you hope.
OfDumbfuck knows.
Don’t block vehicles in intersections. Don’t raise your AR-15 at drivers of vehicles.
Stupidity should be painful, and occasionally is. This is not rocket science.
93,
He wasn’t at $1.5 trillion in July. He wanted Schumer to start there and come down. Or offer him a reason ($$$) to settle there.
He wants a break for coal. But he still can’t say that. If his objection was really about size then the deal would be done. Biden has already said he’d come down from ten years if size was the issue. The pressure has finally caught up to Manchin and he’s resorting to spin. But he won’t take $1.5 trillion in five years either. Not if it doesn’t include a giant tax giveaway to the 40,000 people employed in coal (who don’t need it). But give him that and I’ll bet he’d come up to $2.5 trillion in a snap.
@88 “That is A LOT of taxation.”
There’s a LOT of wealth concentration.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/noahkirsch/2017/11/09/the-3-richest-americans-hold-more-wealth-than-bottom-50-of-country-study-finds/?sh=4d27066c3cf8
But don’t worry, you’re not one of the 3, 6, or 10 people who’ll be paying a LOT more taxes.
@90 “his bipartisan infrastructure bill”
Exactly. Full of goodies for West Virginia. What do progressives get from him in return? Nothing, it seems.
Are you shocked they’re using **his** infrastructure bill as a bargaining chip? Sure, they need to come down. But he needs to come up. You don’t put together deals by asking for something in return for nothing.
@92 Trying to tie Trump to Russia is a crime?
Then what are Trump’s ties to Russia?
DJIA down 500 points today, now around 33,800.
When it was at 35,000 a couple of months ago I told G-clown that it was more likely to next hit 30,000 than 40,000. And then it would climb again, to 40,000.
I still think that. Another 10% loss for the DJIA is healthy, long-term. It’s climbed far too fast and way too far.
We’ve had three straight disappointing new unemployment claims numbers. I think those economic concerns are spiling into the markets.
A stronger president would help. We, of course, have a weak, near-absent president instead.
I’ve always posted any ol’ poll that suits my purpose. The bar for you used to be LV polls. Not so much now it seems.
@ 101
The bar for you used to be LV polls.
Nah. I certainly prefer them over RV or “adults” polls. I hesitate to post something from Rasmussen, not because I disbelieve it but because it’s frequently not worth the instant dismissal from twats like YLB based on nothing more than it’s from Rasmussen.
The challenge is posting poll results from right-leaning pollsters that pose questions that left-leaning pollsters never do. So the result is criticized, but there’s no contrasting data on the same question from a left-leaning pollster.
I’d like to see CNN ask the voters “Do you think Biden no longer possesses the mental capacity to be president?” I doubt it will ever happen. CNN would have to publish the results, which would embarrass the president, or it would tank the poll, which would then be leaked, which would embarrass both the president and CNN. So CNN pollsters will never ask the question.
I’m sure it works the same way for Trafalgar and the questions it asks. Not really relevant right now. Beginning in 2025 you can criticize Trafalgar for protecting the new president. You’ll possibly be correct in that criticism.
The dudes joyriding to space pay less than 1%.
They need our help. /s
98,
Manchin’s “bipartisan” bill can’t earn one single Republican vote in the House. It it could he might not have to be seen lowering himself to negotiate with lesser dirty brown “Gimmee-Gimmee” people like Jayapal or AOC.
Too fuckin’ bad for him. He should be more choosy about his friends.
@ 104
Manchin’s “bipartisan” bill can’t earn one single Republican vote in the House.
What House vote proves this? What do you have that proves this?
I bet you’re wrong. It might be Cheney and Kinzinger, but it would prove you wrong.
99,
Crime? The only crime alleged by HuhrDuhrham involves a hearsay statement about an unrecorded conversation that took place five years ago without witnesses.
HuhrDuhrham knows he’s got a difficult time making a charge against Sussman. And nobody has ever made a 1001 charge with this kind of evidence before. So he wants to subpoena all the billing records of the firm to see if he can find a smoking gun. But as you know attorney billing records are considered privileged work product. So to make the case he’ll probably have to employ a taint team or special master to meet with Perkins’ approval. And then he has to pray the taint team can find a billing memo tying Sussman’s meeting with Baker to the Clinton campaign.
Which as you point out, isn’t a crime and would not substantiate the basic charge against Sussman. A charge of lying under 1001 does not require materiality. So HuhrDuhrham’s shot at the subpoena will be significantly imperiled by the fact that the billing memos sought are not actually material to the charge indicted.
Ooops.
And since they implicate an important right of privilege, I think there’s a very good chance HuhrDuhrham’s European Adventure ends here.
In a whimper.
Burka Bob’s whimper.
I can wait too.
105,
When Pelosi pulls the vote later today, then you’ll find out.
But I hope she proves me wrong. And by that, I mean I hope she secures the basic framework for the reconciliation bill in time.
Let’s do $1.5 trillion over five years.
Let’s do $2.5 trillion over eight years with a gigantic $50 billion tax credit for coal.
It’s up to Manchin. Tee it up. Or she pulls the vote.
Because if there’s sixty House Republicans on board and they care about their “Bipartisan Buddy Joe” they should probably speak up before it’s too late. I’ll bet they won’t.
105,
Pelosi now says she’s considering leaving the vote open while she whips Republicans.
Crickets so far from Cheney and Kinzinger.
Really odd that you chose Cheney with that dumb comment.
It’s like you don’t know anything at all about her.
If there was any Republican who would refuse to support Manchin’s bill while a $3.5 trillion reconciliation was on the table, it would be her.
Where, oh where are Joe’s “bipartisan” friends when he needs them?
Wendy Davis, GFYS.
A blond Democrat with pink tennis shoes and a brain. Don’t see that very often.
@ 107
It’s up to Manchin. Tee it up. Or she pulls the vote.
Why would Manchin care if she pulls the vote? In July he said that he wasn’t convinced that the $1.2T bill was even needed. You think WV is going to end up with enough infrastructure money to make it worth it to him?
@ 108
Crickets so far from Cheney and Kinzinger.
Here’s CNN about a half-hour ago:
There is no reason for Cheney and Kinzinger to say anything. You’re not going to vote for them. And you’re not going to donate to them, either. QoS McHillbilly, why do they owe you anything?
They don’t. And if Pelosi loses 60 Democrats, then the votes of two Republican don’t mean squat.
It’s been fun listening to all y’all who got those supplemental monthly checks from the federal government telling me, who didn’t get one, that the federal government running out of money is my fault.
Alternate headline: And 39 Democrat senators don’t.
NEWS: 11 Senators Back House Progressives in Demand for Passage of Entire Biden Agenda
I could not care less. Not only do I not need them to vote in favor of anything, I don’t want them to. I’d like nothing more than to see Democrats head into the midterms able to say that Republicans voted against everything good.
But I’m not exactly “Mr. Bipartisanship”.
It’s Manchin who claims that title. And when it counts, none of his “Bipartisan Buddies” will cover his back. That’s probably why Pelosi announced she wanted to hold the vote open while she whips the House Republicans. Who knows? Maybe enough of them will come through to save his bill from defeat.
@ 114
I’d like nothing more than to see Democrats head into the midterms able to say that Republicans voted against everything good.
I’d like that, too. The definition of “good things” to a liberal is digusting to the rest of us.
For those of y’all libbies who claim to be blindsided by the news today of Joe Manchin’s line in the spending sand, be aware that Axios reported on it September 8th:
Biden asking Manchin earlier this week about his $ number is just bullshit. Biden already knew, or should have known.
Y’all knew, but didn’t want to face reality.
Reality is now fucking y’all in the ass, no lube.
Alternative response: Yes, absolutely, but it’s news I’m only going to share on a late Friday afternoon.
Quite the climbdown from Jayapal’s tough talk only 24 hours ago.
Y’all libbies remember when $6 trillion wasn’t enough?
Good times, good times.
Those of y’all libbies upset that once-libbie Sinema has grown up a lot and is now more moderate should recall the transition of Kirsten Gillibrand.
Gillibrand doesn’t shy away from her conservative past in Iowa
Dumb and insincere. Small wonder she was YLB’s fave candidate. The two of them even use the same nail polish.
116,
Before today he never said he’d vote “yes” on a $1.5 trillion rec.
He still hasn’t, really.
And the reason he never said yes to that or any other number is that it isn’t what he wants.
He wants a $50billion bailout for coal.
And I can just about guarantee that if they can pin that $1.5 trillion to him, and keep him from shaking it off, he won’t get the bailout.
Texas judge just entered default judgements against Alex Jones in two of his Sandy Hook cases. He’s gonna get stuck paying costs.
Idiot.
But rich idiot. So good!
Livin’ rent free in teh silly hateful widbee kreepah’s pin head..
Still.. Yawwwwn….
We’re good here at the homestead.. Never been better actually.
Looking forward to a good 2022.
Korey is so kreepee even Kristi cut the freek loose.
https://www.politico.com/news/2021/09/30/corey-lewandowski-allegations-kristi-noem-514804
Learned at the feet of the orangest kreepee freek of them all. Nope kreepee kreepah of widbee – not you. Real close but no cigar.
Uhh.. Dood… kreeped on a f’ing donor’s wife? Dood.. munee is at stake.. “handle” with care. Fragile.. ya schmuck!
teh orange freek might cut it a break.. Hope korey likes working for below minimum wage – if that.
Widbee kreepah here’s your chance to level up your future as a bundler for your new black “friends” – Elder and James. Kreepee Korey is a freek after your own heart. Give a poor, down on its luck orangey kreepah a job.
Did teh kreepah dumbshit of widbee make some noises ’bout Durham lately.. Durham’s first prosecution against the “pro-Hillary cabal” at the FBI fell on its face:
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2021/09/30/biden-justice-department-trump-political-vendetta-durham-investigation-514722
i.e. just cuttin’ corners widbee kreepah. Something I’m sure many a government hack did when they went after muslims.
What a total nothingburger this was for teh widbee kreepee durham-worshiper.
124,
I think Garland is smart to let the whole sad thing play out to its logical conclusion.
In 2020 Trump lost Badly. All the sad, performative sobbing and shrieking the GOP could muster couldn’t make any difference. As predicted, the Arizonal Fraudit only increased the humiliation of the stunning loss.
And in 2016 the Trump campaign got into bed with Russian spies. All the post hoc legal gesturing and obstruction the GOP could muster wasn’t enough to make the truth go away. And The HuhrDuhrham only served to solidify that conclusion.
Now HuhrDuhrham will slowly dwindle into further disrepute as the legal team loses a series of final motions and is forced to go to trial with an empty hand. Or perhaps HuhrDuhrham will fold, and turn the trial work over to main justice where they can then simply move for a dismissal.
Poor Bobby gave more than two years of his life to this. He’s waited long enough for the letdown.
The Speaker has pulled the vote.
Gottheimer and Burka Bob rage in complete silence.
Waiting for Sinema to do the ultimate fuck you after Democrats get Manchins cooperation and switch parties.
127,
A pro-life, lesbian atheist Republican running in a statewide race in Arizona would be interesting, at least.
But other than Moscow Mitch, who’s going to endorse her?
I cannot imagine Sinema is going to be reelected. So she has nothing to lose. She seems like a spoiler who would feel that negative attention is still attention. Everyone hating her still means that everyone is thinking about her.
129,
I think prospects for both Sinema and Manchin improve dramatically if Democrats can deliver on President Biden’s Build Better agenda AND they can portray themselves to a subset of white suburban voters as being “fiscally responsible”.
Never mind for a single instant that they are ALL blithely approving a ten year boondoggle of SEVEN TRILLION more for defense without batting an eyelash.
This is America.