by Goldy, 11/23/2006, 9:17 AM

I’m filling in for Ron Reagan and Dori Monson from noon to 4PM today on Newsradio 710-KIRO, and here’s the lineup as of the moment:

Noon: What really happened on election day? Us “nutroots” claimed the Democratic sweep as a huge win for a revitalized, grassroots progressive movement, while many in the media and political establishment talked about a big victory for Southern “blue dog” Democrats. Thomas Schaller, author of “Whistling Past Dixie: How Democrats Can Win Without the South” joins me to analyze the election and measure the prescience of his thesis.

1PM: Is there really a War on Christmas? Thanksgiving Day kicks off the Christmas Holiday season — are secular humanists/Jews like me trying to de-Christianize it? Michael Johnson, chief legal counsel of the Alliance Defense Fund apparently thinks yes, and he joins me to talk about his organization’s efforts to save Christmas. Personally, I’m a touch dubious.

2PM: Is this guy for real? We’ll stick to the religious theme for another hour when Gen. JC Christian of the nationally renowned blog Jesus’ General joins me to present his own far-right views on the Holiday season and politics in general. No stranger to controversy, it was the General who challenged fellow Republicans to join the military via his Operation Yellow Elephant, and who has made a career out of championing the rights of Blastocyst-Americans. It should be an, um… interesting hour.

3PM: Not quite sure yet. Maybe we’ll just beat the crap out Ann Coulter and Michelle Malkin? Or maybe I’ll surprise my family back East by calling them up without telling them I’m on the air. (Oops. Hope they don’t read my blog.)

Tune in today as you’re cooking your Turkey (or listen to the live stream) and give me a call: 1-877-710-KIRO (5476).

82 Responses to “Turkey Day on 710-KIRO”

1. Mark The Redneck KENNEDY spews:

Hey Goldy – Why don’t you spend some time talking about whether a director of safety at a construction site should be required to have a PE license? Ask listeners whether they feel more safe at Rick’s where dancers are required to have a license, or at a construction site where unlicensed people like Tamara Hardy are allowed to endanger public safety.

Also, see if you can figure out why the girlz in the legislature such as Jeanne Hyphen-Name want to require operator licenses even though there is absolutely no evidence whatsover that the crane operator did anything wrong.

2. Mark The Redneck KENNEDY spews:

Goldy – Why do you want to “beat the crap” out of Ann Coulter and Michelle Malkin? Do you have anger issues? Or are you afraid of powerful women?

3. headless lucy spews:

re M. Richards: I’d make a generalized apology to Bill Cosby, but never to Al Sharpton. No matter what I’d said, I’d still want to know about the Tawana Brawley Imbroglio. My apology to Sharpton would be preceded by Tawana ??
Every time I think Sharpton may have grown up, he disappoints me.

4. TheDeadlyShoe spews:

May preznit give you turkee goldy.

5. K, PE spews:

Well, I see we’ve found an area where MTR believes there should be more government involvement. How amusing. A few thoughts here. First the dancers are required to have business licenses. The gov’t interest is to attempt to keep them out of prostitution, and also collect a bit of revenue. I tend to agree that this is an unnecessary requirement.

On the crane, if you have any sense (you’ve already proven you don’t) you’d know newspapers are not a good source for facts on an incident like this, particularly in the immediate aftermath. I believe the licensing requirement more appropriately falls on the designer and construction manager. The range of potential safety issues on a construction site are so broad that it is not reasonable to expect one person to have the expertise to understand them all. It is reasonable to allow delegation and expect that person to ensure those who are delegated responsibility are qualified.

One point which leaped out at me was the fact that this crane was unique in having a steel base, not the usual concrete. Anyone recall the concrete strike this past August? I know that projects in Bellevue were stalled during that period. Were I investigating, I’d look to see whether there was some connection there. Did they seek to avoid the strike delay with a suspect alternative? Maybe no connection, but who knows? THere’ll be lawyers galore on this one.

6. Mark The Redneck KENNEDY spews:

K – Apparently state Sen Jeanne Hyphen-Name (Moonbat, Seattle) along with more of the girlz in the legislature considers the PI to be an excellent source of facts since they’re all jumping on the crane operator as being responsible.

I don’t know what you mean by “broad” safety issues, but it seems to me that Tamara Hardy as director of safety on the site should have known that every fucking bolt and every fucking weld on the base had failed. Seems to me that knowing something like that should sorta bubble up to the top of her to do list.

7. K spews:

Boy, MTR, your contempt for women is quite impressive. Was Mommy mean to you?

8. K spews:

It should be no surprise that politicians jump on headlines. Remember how your boyz covered themselves with glory on the Terri Shiavo case? You had a doctor making a diagnosis from TV video.

If you know anything about construction, you know there will be quite an investigation.

9. K spews:

Got to go.

I’ll be thinking of MTR when I stick a fork in the turkey!

10. Don Joe spews:

“…don’t know what you mean by “broad” safety issues, but it seems to me that Tamara Hardy as director of safety on the site…”

Two things worth pointing out:

1) I’ve noted before that you will find no job description for a “Director of Safety” that includes a requirement for specialized engineering knowledge. MtWR has not provided any evidence that such a requirement is part of the job description, yet continues to argue on the basis of this “fact”.

2) Since MtWR can’t find such a job description anywhere in existence, he has elided the facts to include the phrase “on the site”. That phrase doesn’t exist anywhere in any newsreport you can find that mentions Tamara Hardy by name. See this story for details.

This is really very typical of our resident wingnuts. They either purposefully ignore relevant facts (as MWS has already admitted), or they simply make up facts as they go along.

I’ll close by noting that no wingnut posting comments here has passed my critical thinking test. Quite pathetic, really.

11. Roger Rabbit spews:

1 I thought the new filters were supposed to get rid of this spam.

12. Roger Rabbit spews:

2 You should talk! You’re afraid of dead women! Namely, your dead crack-whore ex-wife.

13. Roger Rabbit spews:

5 K, PE says:

“One point which leaped out at me was the fact that this crane was unique in having a steel base, not the usual concrete. Anyone recall the concrete strike this past August? … I’d look to see whether there was some connection there. Did they seek to avoid the strike delay with a suspect alternative? Maybe no connection …” 11/23/2006 at 10:20 am

The jerry-rigged steel supports probably had more to do with the fact there was an existing foundation from a previously unfinished project on the site. This foundation was an obstacle to constructing a standard concrete base, so the contractor put the crane on custom-designed steel supports. This Rube Goldberg arrangement was approved by an engineering firm. So, when the investigators get to the bottom of this, they’re sure to find that a whole bunch of males with P.E.s fucked up.

Betcha MTR was one of ‘em, and is blowing smoke to cover his ass …

14. Roger Rabbit spews:

6 Yeah, but the question is did the welds and bolts fail BEFORE or AFTER the crane toppled? And if they failed BEFORE the crane toppled, how do we know that? Did someone see all the welds and bolts failed before the crane toppled? If so, why didn’t he say something? Betcha that jerkoff was a male P.E. … was it YOU Redneck?

15. Roger Rabbit spews:

After the crane fell over, there wouldn’t be much left of the welds and bolts at the base, would there? It takes a male P.E. to be a fucking idiot like Redneck …

16. Roger Rabbit spews:

7 Wouldn’t you be pissed if your abortion didn’t work and you ended up holding a piece of shit like MTR?

17. Mark The Redneck KENNEDY spews:

Hey Rabbit – Tell us… why is it that the dancers at Rick’s need to have licenses, but the safety director at a construction site does not.

Also, tell us your amateur engineering theory as to what the crane operator did to cause the accident.

Finally, tell us what a “moment” is in the context of engineered structures.

18. My Left Foot spews:

MTR at too many list:

1. Your mother should have had the abortion.

2. Your father shouldn’t have been frequenting whores.

3. Your crackhead ex was really your sister.

4. Pay your gambling debt, or admit you are on welfare and can’t afford it.

5. Take your Republican ass over to (un)SP and mingle with others of your like mind(lessness).

Have a great Holiday Season.

Go fuck yourself with the turkey baster.

19. My Left Foot spews:

MTR:

What happened on Nov 7? You are fond of asking questions, here are some for you.

Why did Reichert not blow Darcy out of the water?

Why did the state legislature become even more Democratic?

Why did the Democrats not only win nationally, but why was the defeat suffered by the Republicans so complete?

Why did the Republicans run a crazy woman in Florida and why has Ann Coulter disappeared? (might be the illegal voting issue, or crotch rot)

Why has JCH vanished?

Where is Proudofherfatlyingthreateningass?

How does it feel to know he country is now back in the hands of level headed, clear thinking, compassionate people?

How does it feel to be the loser you are?

20. YOS LIB BRO spews:

HEY GOLDY – YOU GOT A SMOKIN’ HOT GUEST HERE WITH THOMAS SCHALLER. THIS GUY HAS GOT THE FACTS AND FIGURES THAT PUTS THE LIE TO THE TALKING POINTS SPEWED BY THE WINGNUTS AFTER THE ELECTION.

“BLUE DOGS”? GET REAL SURREAL MARK.

GOLDY, TOM SCHALLER IS REGULAR GUEST MATERIAL MOST DEF. THANKS FOR HAVING HIM ON.

I’M OFF TO THANKSGIVING DINNER. THANKS BE TO OUR GLORIOUS DEMOCRACY.

SEE YA WINGNUT TURKEES!

21. Yer Killin Me spews:

So, does anybody miss JCH?

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Yeah, me either.

22. Don Joe spews:

MtWR,

Pay your gambling debt to Goldy, and I’ll explain to you how the concept of a “moment” (i.e. the cross product between a force applied to a lever and the distance from the pivot to the location where the force is applied–note that’s a cross product, because force is a vector) is irrelevant to this discussion.

23. Roger Rabbit spews:

17 Also, tell us your amateur engineering theory as to what the crane operator did to cause the accident.

Failure to inspect equipment before operating same. Hey, all the welds and bolts were gone, so why didn’t he see that?

24. Roger Rabbit spews:

18

MR is what you get when an eggplant fucks a turkey.

25. Roger Rabbit spews:

19 Where is Proudofherfatlyingthreateninga ss?

New nom de plume … now posting as “Truth2006.”

26. Roger Rabbit spews:

So when is Bill O’Liely gonna launch his war against Christmas? Tomorrow?

27. Roger Rabbit spews:

ROGER RABBIT POLL

What is the most useless war in history?

[ ] 1. Crimean campaign
[ ] 2. Ghost dance revolt
[ ] 3. Iraq invasion
[ ] 4. War against Christmas

28. spyder spews:

I want a war on turkey. No more Happy Turkey Day shit; we must lobby to change the meat product of choice to varieties of pig. Then we can all say Happy Pork Day or better Happy Pig Day, thus reifying the message that it is nothing so much more than a day to overconsume food stuffs while millions of humans on the planet suffer from malnutrition and starvation.

29. Roger Rabbit spews:

Perhaps these headlines were overlooked amidst the furor over last week’s elections:

11/03/2006 01:03 PM ID: 58080
Ann Coulter May Be Charged for Voter Fraud
http://tinyurl.com/y9yevg

Ann Coulter may face jail time for not voting in the right place
http://tinyurl.com/y4c3sx

November 1st, 2006
Ann Coulter’s Felonious Voter Fraud Case to be Turned Over to Prosecutor!
http://tinyurl.com/yd9sqr

Ann Coulter Says She Won’t Cooperate in Voting Probe
Published: November 01, 2006 5:00 PM ET
http://tinyurl.com/y9juc9

Roger Rabbit Commentary: Man this babe’s gonna look HOT in a pink jumpsuit! (With “Dade County Jail” stenciled on the back.)

30. your sister spews:

We are streaming you! Call us.

31. Mark The Redneck KENNEDY spews:

The crane operator’s job is to move material to support the construction schedule and comply with the usage instructions for the crane.

Tamara Hardy, the unlicensed director of site safety should have checked the crane’s foundation. The death that resulted from the collapse of the crane is directly her fault.

I know you girlz at the PI read stuff here. I want to know when you’re going to start looking into why Tamara Hardy was allowed to have a job where public safety was at issue, and why she was allowed to hold this position when has no qualifications to do so. Further, I want you to check to see if her appointment to this position was a result of her employer’s need to satisfy diversity quotas.

32. Mark The Redneck KENNEDY spews:

Hey Rabbit – Nice Google. Too bad you don’t know what the fuck it means. Prove me wrong. Tell us what a cross product is. Tell us the difference between a vector quantity and a scalar quantity. You fucking dumass…

As to your theory of “moments” having nothing to do with the accident, I think every PE on the fucking planet (including me) would disagree with you.

33. Mark The Redneck KENNEDY spews:

The crane operator did nothing wrong. No one has suggested even a wild kook theory as to why the crane accident had any connection whatsoever to how he operated the crane.

On the other hand, Tamara Hardy was directly responsible for site safety. Yet she has no qualifications whatsoever to hold this position.

RCW 18.43.010 says that “…In order to safeguard life, health, and property, and to promote the public welfare, any person in either public or private capacity practicing or offering to practice engineering or land surveying, shall hereafter be required to submit evidence that he is qualified so to practice…”

http://apps.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=18.43.010

DOL and the girlz in the legislature need to launch an investigation as to why Tamara Hardy was apparently exempted from this requirment. And if it is found that she was hired to fulfill a diversity quota, then there should be hell to pay.

34. Mark The Redneck KENNEDY spews:

Holy shit… I just noticed somthing… RCW 18.43.010 uses the pronoun “he”.

Does that mean that unqualified engineers are exempt from the law if they have a vagina? Probably. Makes sense in a vaginocracy such as Washington.

35. John Barelli spews:

Don Joe said:

“This is really very typical of our resident wingnuts. They either purposefully ignore relevant facts (as MWS has already admitted), or they simply make up facts as they go along.

I’ll close by noting that no wingnut posting comments here has passed my critical thinking test. Quite pathetic, really.

Frustrating, isn’t it. After you pointed out that I was “feeding the troll”, I realized that MTR really didn’t care about any of the facts of the situation. We could find out that Ms. Hardy actually had every engineering degree and license known to mankind, but that wouldn’t change his opinion.

She’s unqualified because she is female.

The company could have hired “Tom Hardy” as safety director out of the high school dropout line at the unemployment office, and he would be fine with that. He’d just go looking for some woman to blame.

If the crane operator was a woman, he’d be blaming the crane operator. If any person working on the crane was female, he’d be blaming her, and if there were no females working on the cite at all, he’d be claiming that it was an accident, with nobody was to blame.

I think he read too many “Gor” novels as a youth.

36. Mark The Redneck KENNEDY spews:

Barelli – Shit, read 18.43.010. It’s simple enough that even a fucking real estate agent can understand it. It’s can’t be any more clear. Those responsible for ensuring public safety need to be PEs. Tamara Hardy is NOT a PE. Therefore, she should not have been allowed to hold that position.

Matt Ammon’s death is the direct result of having an unqualified person in a position of ensuring public safety.

You think that maybe she has “every engineering degree and license known to mankind…” but the facts simply don’t support your assertion. Go to WSDOL and do a query for her name. You won’t find anything.

37. facts support my positions spews:

You clowns complain about a crane inspectors credentials, buy say nothing about brownie running fema.

Being conservative means being a hypocrite with every spoken word.

Please tell the world what “conservatives” stand for these days…..

Start with the 5 trillion in new debt, and work from there….

38. Mark The Redneck KENNEDY spews:

Conservative means that equal opportunity.
Librul means equal outcomes.

Conservative means believing people will do the right thing.
Librul means thinking people are stoopid and can’t do the right thing.

Conservative means optimism.
Liburl means pessimism.

Conservative means personal responsibility.
Librul means choices without consequences.

Conservative means rights for the individual.
Librul means rights of the collective.

Conservative means limited gummint.
Liburl means an always expanding gummint.

Conservative means learning from history.
Librul means arrogance masquerading as knowledge.

39. Mark The Redneck KENNEDY spews:

1) Have any of you amateur engineers out there come up with a theory as to why the crane operator in Bellevue caused the crash?

2) Who should be held to the highest standard?

a) Hair cutters
b) Exotic dancers
c) People doing technical jobs responsible for ensuring pubic safety.

3) Who is more culpable for the crane accident:

a) The crane operator who did his job properly?
b) The person responsible for insuring safety at the site who had no fucking idea that every fucking bolt and every fucking weld on the base had failed?

4) Where do you feel the most safe?

a) Hair Masters
b) Rick’s
c) Tower 333 construction site

40. Mark The Redneck KENNEDY spews:

MTR’s Multiple Choice Moonbat Quiz:

Question 1: With whom you feel the most comfortable getting a haircut?

a) Mei Lai
b) Bambi
c) Tamara Hardy

Question 2: With whom do you feel the most comfortable getting a lap dance?

a) Mei Lai
b) Bambi
c) Tamara Hardy

Question 3: With whom do you feel the most comfortable when walking past a dangerous construction site?

a) Mei Lai
b) Bambi
c) Tamara Hardy

41. Mark The Redneck KENNEDY spews:

Clarification on question 1 for you seattle metrosexuals…

substitute “coiffe, style, and blowdry” for “haircut”.

There. Does that make more sense now?

42. YOS LIB BRO spews:

MTR – NOBODY CARES A FLIP WHAT YOU SPEW.

PAY YOUR FUCKING GAMBLING DEBT – LOSER.

43. SeattleDan spews:

MTR, get a life.

Hope you had a nice thanksgiving!

44. John Barelli spews:

Why do I even bother? Still, just so the folks playing along on our home game understand, here are the references:

First, here’s the law:

RCW 18.43.010
General provisions.

In order to safeguard life, health, and property, and to promote the public welfare, any person in either public or private capacity practicing or offering to practice engineering or land surveying, shall hereafter be required to submit evidence that he is qualified so to practice and shall be registered as hereinafter provided; and it shall be unlawful for any person to practice or to offer to practice in this state, engineering or land surveying, as defined in the provisions of this chapter, or to use in connection with his name or otherwise assume, use, or advertise any title or description tending to convey the impression that he is a professional engineer or a land surveyor, unless such a person has been duly registered under the provisions of this chapter.

Now, here’s the job description (from Salary.com):

Safety Director
Directs an organization’s safety programs. Develops, implements, and manages safety programs, policies, and procedures. Must be aware of federal, state and local safety laws to ensure the organization complies with all current safety regulations. Responsible for maintenance of safety / accident records. May require a bachelor’s degree and 10 to 12 years of experience. Familiar with a variety of the field’s concepts, practices, and procedures. Relies on extensive experience and judgment to plan and accomplish goals. Performs a variety of tasks. Leads and directs the work of others. A wide degree of creativity and latitude is expected. Typically reports to top management.

Odd, but I don’t see the word engineer or engineering anywhere in that job description.

I expect that the Safety Director would have engineers working for her, and I expect that she should have a basic understanding of engineering principles.

I doubt that the company Safety Director actually goes to the various worksites and checks welds and bolts.

Yes, MTR, the law is very clear. It simply does not apply to the position of Safety Director. I take it from your many obscenity-filled, misogynistic posts that you think that the Safety Director (apparently a primarily administrative position) should be responsible for personally overseeing the day-to-day maintenance of worksite equipment.

You are welcome to that opinion, and I will not argue on that account. My only response is that, under the current law, this is not the case.

Don’t like it? Fine. In several earlier posts, I’ve explained to you how you, through your professional organization, the Washington Society of Professional Engineers, can work towards getting the law changed. Go for it. Professional engineers are far better qualified than I am to decide what type and level of engineering expertise and experience is required for a particular position. Taking you at your word that you are a PE, then my question is why haven’t you done something about the law?

Or, you can continue to rant and rave, while complaining to your many friends down at “Rick’s”. Your choice.

45. Don Joe spews:

John Barelli,

Why should I find MtWR’s imperviousness to facts to be frustrating? Let him continue to be a shining example of wingnuts’ inability to think. If anyone should be frustrated, its MtWR, because he’s the one who hasn’t won an argument in all the time he’s been posting here. That’s why his tone gets increasingly shrill.

SeattleDan,

You’ll notice that time I’ve pointed out the relevant facts, MtWR has completely ignored it. In fact, MtWR won’t actually take me on in a debate, because I’ve kicked his ass so many times you can no longer distinguish the individual shoe prints.

Lastly, there are a few items that MtWR has left out of his political charicatures regarding the difference between liberals and conservatives:

1) Conservatives eat 3/4 of all rutabaga in the world. The rest is thrown out.

2) Conservatives close their bedroom drapes, though there’s never a reason they need to. Liberals don’t close their bedroom drapes, though there’s often a reason that they should.

3) Conservative boys date liberal girls. They plan to marry conservative girls, but feel they’re entitled to a little fun first.

4) Liberals donate their worn-out clothing to charity. Conservatives wear their worn-out clothing.

5) Liberals eat the fish they catch. Conservatives hang their fish on the wall.

6) Liberals read puerile material in the privacy of their own homes. Conservatives form censorship committees, and read them as a group.

7) Conservatives sleep in twin beds, which is why there are more liberals.

46. Roger Rabbit spews:

22 Don Joe says:

MtWR,

Pay your gambling debt to Goldy, and I’ll explain to you how the concept of a “moment” (i.e. the cross product between a force applied to a lever and the distance from the pivot to the location where the force is applied–note that’s a cross product, because force is a vector) is irrelevant to this discussion. 11/23/2006 at 12:59 pm

32 Mark The Redneck KENNEDY says:

Hey Rabbit – Nice Google. Too bad you don’t know what the fuck it means. Prove me wrong. Tell us what a cross product is. Tell us the difference between a vector quantity and a scalar quantity. You fucking dumass…

As to your theory of “moments” having nothing to do with the accident, I think every PE on the fucking planet (including me) would disagree with you. 11/23/2006 at 3:27 pm

Roger Rabbit Reply: Since when is “Don Joe” Roger Rabbit? And you call ME a “dumass?” When you can’t even read a tag line? Fucking illiterate.

47. Roger Rabbit spews:

In addition to being an illiterate fuck, Redneck is a liar:

23 Roger Rabbit says:

17 Also, tell us your amateur engineering theory as to what the crane operator did to cause the accident.

Failure to inspect equipment before operating same. Hey, all the welds and bolts were gone, so why didn’t he see that? 11/23/2006 at 1:24 pm

33 Mark The Redneck KENNEDY says:

The crane operator did nothing wrong. No one has suggested even a wild kook theory as to why the crane accident had any connection whatsoever to how he operated the crane. 11/23/2006 at 3:34 pm

48. Roger Rabbit spews:

38 Nice set of platitudes, Redneck. If this wre a world in which people “do the right thing,” you’d pay Goldy the $100 you owe him, instead of being a deadbeat welsher.

49. Roger Rabbit spews:

40 Roger Rabbit Reply: I don’t know Tamara Hardy, but I’d let her supervise a construction site a hell of a lot sooner than I’d let Redneck get anywhere near my fur with a pair of scissors. Stick that up your crack, welsher!

50. Roger Rabbit spews:

43 SeattleDan says: MTR, get a life. Hope you had a nice thanksgiving! 11/23/2006 at 7:38 pm

Not me. I hope he gets syphilis and his dick falls off.

51. Roger Rabbit spews:

45 Nicely done, Don Joe. :)

52. Don Joe spews:

Roger, it’s obvious that MtWR is illiterate. He brings up the concept of a “moment,” without realizing that we’re talking about torque, which operates in three dimensions, not just a single plane. Were we to be truly pedantic about it, we’d be discussing the triple scalar products. There’s an additional vector that’s perpendicular to the plane of rotation.

Note, also, that he misqotes me. I didn’t say that the concept of a “moment” is irrelevant to the incident. I said it’s irrelevant to this discussion.

53. A concerned Democrat spews:

I think the Gregoire adminstration planted plastic explosive on the crane to create a panic and to evoke martial law….. hey wait a minute… wrong party. Nevermind.

54. Tlazolteotl spews:

Heh, you guys are turning me on with all this classical physics banter. :-)

Hope you had a nice turkeee day. I didn’t get to listen to Goldy on the radio, which is too bad. I loves me some General, in a completely heterosexual way, of course!

55. K spews:

MTR- From what I see in your posts you may have made it through the 200 level engineering courses. The RCW’s you cite refer to the “practice of engineering”. Your assertions about ensuring public safety are ridiculous. Should cops be PE’s?

Your posts indicate no evidence of real world experience. In my experience, which includes both dealing with the media and managing large capital projects (and yes including the occasional problem) I can tell you that you (and I) do not know what the facts are here. You do, as is your habit, spin wildly off this incident to advance your silly misogynistic views.

I ask again, was Mommy mean to you?

56. Don Joe spews:

Tlazolteotl,

Well, holy shit!

57. GS spews:

Heh Goldy, how about that Brand spanking new Hummer that Vancouver Housing Authority Executive Director Kurt Creager expensed to tax payers. Eyman’s Audits caught that slime ball.

Right up there with the millions wasted on self cleaning private Drug selling prostitution houses King county provided on their streets.

Great job these folks are doing, also glad to see the King county executive and gang just stole massive raises from $17,000 for the council to $27,000 for Ron Sims, to help them pay for the massive tax increases they dumped on the rest of the pee-ons of this state.

I give thanks this Thanksgiving, for the new found wisdom I have to rapidly give away my money to my children early enough that the dimocraps cannot steal it before I eat my Turkey this day.

Happy Thanksgiving and a Very Merry Christmas to you all!

I will start my Walmart spending tommorrow, in Portland Oregon, where I choose to visit my cousins on this Biggest Buying day (no sales tax there).

58. headless lucy spews:

The Dude ( Don’t forget the white russian!)

At Maude’s studio, where she identifies her art as “strongly vaginal”, she explains that she took the rug because it was given to her by her late mother, and had “sentimental value” to her. She confirms what the Dude had already suspected, that Bunny had probably kidnapped herself, and asks him to recover the $1,000,000 from the kidnappers as it was withdrawn by her father from a charitable foundation that is supported by both Lebowski and Maude. In return Maude says she will give Dude 10% of the cash recovered. He agrees.

Maude’s chauffeur delivers him back to his apartment, where he is strong-armed into another limousine where the Big Lebowski and Brandt confront him about the botched ransom delivery. The Dude raises the possibility of a kidnapping hoax. The Big Lebowski erases the notion of a fake kidnapping from the Dude’s mind when the former shows the protagonist a severed pinky toe with a toenail painted in Bunny’s color.

59. headless lucy spews:

The Big Lebowski is a 1998 comedy film written and directed by Joel and Ethan Coen. The movie chronicles a few days in the life of an unemployed, California slacker and recreational bowler in which he is mistaken for a millionaire with the same name. The film, known for its characters, surreal dream sequences, dialogue and classic rock soundtrack, is a cult classic.

While not directly based on Raymond Chandler’s novel The Big Sleep, Joel Coen has said that “[we] wanted to do a Chandler kind of story – how it moves episodically, and deals with the characters trying to unravel a mystery. As well as having a hopelessly complex plot that’s ultimately unimportant.”[1].

60. headless lucy spews:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2006/11/23/leaked-drug-company-memo_n_34802.html

LEAKED DRUG COMPANY MEMO: SANTORUM LOSS “CREATES A BIG HOLE WE WILL NEED TO FILL”…”WE NOW HAVE FEWER ALLIES IN THE SENATE”…
Washington Post

61. headless lucy spews:

“We woke up the day after the election to a new world,” said Ken Johnson, spokesman for the Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturers of America. “We’re going to have tough days ahead of us.”
A post-election e-mail to executives at the drug company GlaxoSmithKline details just how tough. “We now have fewer allies in the Senate,” says the internal memo, obtained by The Washington Post. “Thus, there is greater risk over the next two years that bad amendments will be offered to pending legislation.” The company’s primary concerns are bills that would allow more imported drugs and would force price competition for drugs bought under Medicare.
The defeat of Sen. Rick Santorum (R-Pa.) “creates a big hole we will need to fill,” the e-mail says. Sen.-elect Jon Tester (D-Mont.) “is expected to be a problem,” it says, and the elevation

62. headless lucy spews:

“…bills that would allow more imported drugs and would force price competition for drugs bought under Medicare.”

I thought these guys were all FREE TRADERS!!! What’s it all mean MTR???

63. Don Joe spews:

Leave it to wingnuts like GS to whine about salary increases and $36K Hummers while not speaking a word about the 1.2 trillion dollars in corporate welfare for drug companies under the Medicare drug benefits that were rammed through a Republican-controlled Congress and signed into law by a Republican president.

64. headless lucy spews:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/11/22/AR2006112201940.html

Democrats’ Victory Is Felt On K Street

By Jeffrey H. Birnbaum
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, November 23, 2006; Page A01

The Democrats’ takeover of Congress this month has turned official Washington upside down.

Labor and environmental representatives, once also-rans in congressional influence, are meeting frequently with Capitol Hill’s incoming Democratic leaders. Corporations that once boasted about their Republican ties are busily hiring Democratic lobbyists. And industries worried about reprisals from the new Democrats-in-charge, especially the pharmaceutical industry, are sending out woe-is-me memos and hoping their GOP connections will protect them in the crunch.

65. headless lucy spews:

http://www.consortiumnews.com/2006/112306.html

In November 1987, as the Reagan administration was still scrambling to contain the Iran-Contra scandal, then-deputy CIA director Robert M. Gates denied that the spy agency had soft-pedaled intelligence about Iran’s support for terrorism to clear the way for secret U.S. arms shipments to the Islamic regime.

66. headless lucy spews:

re 57: The higher gas prices rocket, the less $$$ you’ll have to spend at WalMart. Multiply that by untold millions of drivers and you’re looking at plumetting stock prices for WalMart.

SELL NOW!!!!!!!!!

Is this how those crazy rumors get started — by logical cause and effect thinking?

67. headless lucy spews:

The WalMarts in China are unionized.

68. headless lucy spews:

You can’t have fair trade with 3rd world countries unless labor standards are built into the trade agreements.

69. headless lucy spews:

The less $$$$$$$ Americans spend at WalMart, the less money we spend on Chinese manufactured goods. They will call in their debts.

And bloggers will publicize that it is the fault of big oil and REPUBLICANS.

70. Roger Rabbit spews:

52 Don Joe says: Roger, it’s obvious that MtWR is illiterate. He brings up the concept of a “moment,” without realizing that we’re talking about torque, which operates in three dimensions, not just a single plane. Were we to be truly pedantic about it, we’d be discussing the triple scalar products. There’s an additional vector that’s perpendicular to the plane of rotation.

Note, also, that he misqotes me. I didn’t say that the concept of a “moment” is irrelevant to the incident. I said it’s irrelevant to this discussion. 11/23/2006 at 9:22 pm

Roger Rabbit Reply: This is all very interesting, but can you explain how he confused you with a rabbit?

71. A concerned Democrat spews:

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2003445393_carbonstorage24m.html

Please join me in the effort to ban rocks.

72. slingshot spews:

The General. It was apparent from the outset he was either incredibly moonbat crazy, or pretty funny. Check out his site(s) for the real poop.
BTW, how does a thread entitled “Thanksgiving Day at KIRO” turn into a series of skirmishes about crane safety and pharmaceutical pricing?

73. Mark The Redneck KENNEDY spews:

I just love reading how uneducated people think of technical things. Fascinating…

The torque vs moment thing is a keeper.

Thanks guys…

74. headless lucy spews:

The crane was not set up correctly, the wind blew hard, and it fell over and killed someone. I’m amazed that you can’t see that my explanation is better than yours.

What’s the wind vector, Kenneth?

75. YOS LIB BRO spews:

YOU’RE NOT WELCOME BET-WELSHER.

PAY YOUR FUCKING GAMBLING DEBT.

76. My Left Foot spews:

MTR:

Um, well, uh, hmmm…..Twisting the facts when we can all go back and read the posts. Mark you really are the most ignorant Wingnut here at HA.

Perhaps you should take a page from your pal JCH’s handbook and go away. Your side lost. You are the new minority. Silence is golden. It is better to remain silent and thought a fool, rather than to open your mouth and prove it. Over and over again. Jackass!

Funny how that works.

77. My Left Foot spews:

MTR:

Google this, MTR: Fuck you!!!

78. Don Joe spews:

“I just love reading how uneducated people think of technical things.”

Well, that would certainly explain MtWR’s penchant for listening to his own voice.

79. Alcee Hastings spews:

RIGHT ON Brother My Left Foot!! RIGHT ON!!!
Power to the people…and all that kinda stuff.
End Racism now.
Call Nancy Pelosi and tell her “Alcee ain’t no crook”!
“Make Alcee the Intelligence Committee Chair”.
Open my impeachment file. Review it publicly.
“ALCEE AIN’T NO DAMN CROOK!!!”

80. Gildersleeve spews:

Are there any plans to podcast the show?

81. Operation Yellow Elephant spews:

Thank you for allowing Jesus’ General to encourage the College and Young Republicans to Support President Bush to WIN the Global War on Terrorism by volunteering for military service.

82. anomalous4 spews:

I’m with Gildersleeve (80). I want to hear the Jesus’ General segment! I just listened to the one from Sunday night. I love the guy – his blog is a hoot!