by Goldy, 05/29/2007, 4:19 PM

Apparently, you can never be too rich, you can never be too thin, and you can never be too wing-nutty. With only three of ten Republican presidential hopefuls displaying the integrity to admit they don’t believe in evolution, Oklahoma Senator Tom Coburn is considering adding his authentic conservative voice to the GOP debates:

Sen. Tom Coburn is mulling an entry into the Republican presidential primary, according to sources inside and outside the Senate. Coburn, a senator from Oklahoma, is believed to be receiving encouragement from a small group of wealthy businessmen and philanthropists in the Oklahoma-Kansas-Texas region of the country.

Hmm. I wonder if any of those wealthy Oklahoma businessmen include Sonics owners Clay Bennett, Tom Ward and Aubrey McClendon, who have contributed nearly $10,000 to Coburn in the past?

“He’s all about faith, lower taxes, and staying the course in Iraq,” says an adviser outside of the Senate who has been speaking to Coburn.

He’s all about “lower taxes” huh? And, you know, one way to lower taxes is to not spend taxpayer dollars building $500 million hoops palaces for billionaires.

Coburn is believed to have the backing of several low-profile members of the so called “Swift Boaters,” men who financed the ads that doomed the presidential aspirations of Sen. John Kerry.

Yeah, well, I don’t really have anything snarky to add here. I just thought it might say something about the type of folk who support Coburn.

According to Wikipedia Coburn has said he favors the death penalty for doctors who perform abortions, and that homosexuality is the biggest threat to America. The inimitable Cliff Shecter thinks Coburn is just “another whackjob“:

He’s the freaking tool that says lesbians are in the school bathrooms, silicone breast implants are “healthy”, is blocking celebrating Rachel Carson’s birthday and and was against airing “Schindler’s List” on regular tv.

He’ll fit right in.

He certainly will.

46 Responses to “Tom Coburn, OK”

1. Will spews:

Tom Coburn has actually PERFORMED abortions.

2. ArtFart spews:

“All about faith, lower taxes, and staying the course in Iraq”, huh?

Well, that depends on “faith” in what, lower taxes for whom, and staying what course…

3. Tuor spews:

Faith in what = Power, and the incessant desire for more.

Whom = Himself and those who agree with him.

What course = whatever path will get him what he wants (see: faith in what).

4. Right Stuff spews:

I don’t think the next president is even in the race yet..

5. Puddybud Who Left the Reservation spews:

Hey Scratchy Voice:

Hilary believes in Socialism! http://tinyurl.com/yqqacn

“In 1965, the average corporate chief executive earned 24 times as much as the average worker, she said. By 2005, it was 262 times as much. In the last six years, productivity has increased, but family incomes have gone down, she said, leading to rising inequality and pessimism in the work force.”

I agree, them greedy white men and women are stifling us blacks! We need more minorities in upper management! I say affirmative action NOW! They need to get rid of the “glass” ceiling and put blacks in these positions over honkies now!

What say you Moonbat!s? Where is the compassion?

6. harry poon spews:

re 5: Dry up, Peckerwood.

7. Paddy spews:

Hey!!! I can be just as inimitable as Cliff…. matter of fact I am since I wrote that up.

No biggie, I just wanted credit for being inimitable.

8. harry poon spews:

There are various theories concerning the origin of the term “cracker”.

re 5: “The term “cracker” was in use during Elizabethan times to describe braggarts. The original root of this is the Middle English word crack1 meaning “entertaining conversation” (One may be said to “crack” a joke); this term and the alternate spelling “craic” are still in use in Ireland and Scotland. It is documented in Shakespeare’s King John (1595): “What cracker is this … that deafes our ears / With this abundance of superfluous breath?”

It’s Puddybud. Will you be offended if I call you what you are: a cracker?

9. Mark The Redneck KENNEDY spews:

These are the assfuckingholes who get in my fucking way when I’m trying to get somewhere.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/travel/2003726331_webgasmileage29.html

Memo to “hypermilers”: Take a fucking bus. Get off my fucking road you loser.

10. harry poon spews:

There are various theories concerning the origin of the term “cracker”……

re 5: “The term “cracker” was in use during Elizabethan times to describe braggarts. The original root of this is the Middle English word crack1 meaning “entertaining conversation” (One may be said to “crack” a joke); this term and the alternate spelling “craic” are still in use in Ireland and Scotland. It is documented in Shakespeare’s King John (1595): “What cracker is this … that deafes our ears / With this abundance of superfluous breath?”

It’s Puddybud. Will you be offended if I call you what you are: a cracker?

11. Mark The Redneck KENNEDY spews:

These are the assholes who get in my fucking way when I’m trying to get somewhere.

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Memo to “hypermilers”: Take a bus. Get off my fucking road you fucking losers.

12. YOS LIB BRO spews:

PUDDYSTUPID: YET ANOTHER WINGNUT IDIOT (COBURN) THAT YOU’D VOTE FOR IN A FLAT SECOND.

IF IT’S WINGNUT YOU KNEE-JERK IT! WHAT A TOOL YOU ARE!

13. YOS LIB BRO spews:

IF IT’S BETWEEN HILLARY AND ANYONE PUDDYFREAKO LIKES, I’LL HOLD MY NOSE AND TAKES MY CHANCES!

14. proud leftist spews:

The lifeguard at the gene pool must have been off-duty when Pudfucker and MTR were spawned.

15. Proud To Be An Ass spews:

Pudwhacker asserts:

‘Hilary believes in Socialism!’

That is sheer lunacy, but would that it were so! You have something against socialism?

“I agree, them greedy white men and women are stifling us blacks! We need more minorities in upper management! I say affirmative action NOW! They need to get rid of the “glass” ceiling and put blacks in these positions over honkies now!”

In many ways, I agree. In the face of ongoing racism in our society, this is the only way to level the playing field. When blacks have (per capita) as much economic clout as whites, then ‘mirabeau dictu!’, a lot of this bullshit will cease.

Of course, conservatives deny racism even exists. Fuck them.

16. Proud To Be An Ass spews:

Please, please, please, GOP lunatics—ensure Tom Coburn is the Rethuglican nominee in ’08. It would be educational for this country to learn once and for all that only 12% of us endorse ‘real conservatism’ (snort).

17. RightEqualStupid spews:

I hope that some Publicans learn the hard way what working with our enemies brings. These assholes outed Plame when she was covert. They lied about it and now they don’t even care that real soldiers, not chickenhawks like them, are dying as a result of this activity.

18. RightEqualStupid spews:

The righties have a Ron Paul problem. They want to silence him because he tells the truth and blows away all their bullshit talking points. I guess the Publican party doesn’t have a very big tent.

19. The Great White Ape spews:

Apparently, you can never be too rich, you can never be too thin, and you can never be too wing-nutty. With only three of ten Republican presidential hopefuls displaying the integrity to admit they don’t believe in evolution, Oklahoma Senator Tom Coburn is considering

Wingnuts are nutty. Remember where you liberals come from. I am your father.

20. Facts Support My Positions spews:

Coburn seems pretty much like a normal rightie hypocrite to me. What is the problem?

The Republican Something Business Council called me today and asked if I would like to pay $2,500 and go to a dinner and listen to Bush. I am not kidding. I pretend to be a Republicon so I can play with them morons. It is real fun. I told them I would love to attend, though I don’t have a single cent to give them.

The 3 people that talked to me kept talking about tax cuts. I asked the last girl a tough question (while pretending to be a con that cares). I asked her if she knew that we had a deficit. I asked her who would pay my share if they cut my taxes. I asked her if we would just have to borrow more from China, or Saudi Arabia. Let’s just say she didn’t have an answer….

21. Puddybud Who Left The Reservation spews:

Still Dumb and a Real Ass@12-13 didn’t say anything of significance today!

22. John Barelli spews:

Sen. Coburn is, I understand, the fellow that had a falling out with Speaker Gingrich, because he felt that the Speaker was too far left.

While he is apparently consistent in his views (I could not find the reference to his performing an abortion, except for the ectopic pregnancy, which even the most vocal pro-life folks would allow for) but his views aren’t so much “conservative” as they are “neo-con”.

Apparently, he’s in favor of government running people’s personal lives, but against government having any control whatsoever over big business.

I can’t tell exactly what his underlying political philosophy might be, but he acts as if he’s a wholly-owned subsidiary of big business.

While I doubt that even his supporters expect him to win much of anything, he could split up the religious right even more, which would work in Mayor Guiliani’s benefit. We may joke about Mayor Guiliani, but he’s probably the biggest threat that the Republicans have campaigning at the moment, because he can draw votes from independents.

(I am very happy to note Senator Obama is apparently leading him in the polls, but I’m not willing to put much stock in the polls at this point, as it’s still way too early.)

Our best hope is that the Dobson/Robertson crowd gets behind one candidate and pushes him through. Speaker Gingrich would be the most beneficial from our perspective, and somehow the Dobson/Robertson crowd seems happy to overlook the Speaker’s many faults and indiscretions.

I doubt very much that the voters would overlook those indescretions, nor forget just what a disaster he was as Speaker.

23. Puddybud Who Left The Reservation spews:

Goodness Headlice Loocie AKA Col Biff AKA Col Tucker AKA Harry Poon AKA Emily Littela@6:

Sorry to inform you my idiot savant adversary, but you are the po white boy (peckerwood)! Remember whatever name you choose to blog with, we blacks saw woodpeckers as the freak show (representation for Stupidman) for working class white peeps. That’d be you headlice!

24. SeattleDan spews:

Hey Scratchy Voice:

“Hilary believes in Socialism! http://tinyurl.com/yqqacn

“In 1965, the average corporate chief executive earned 24 times as much as the average worker, she said. By 2005, it was 262 times as much. In the last six years, productivity has increased, but family incomes have gone down, she said, leading to rising inequality and pessimism in the work force.”

I agree, them greedy white men and women are stifling us blacks! We need more minorities in upper management! I say affirmative action NOW! They need to get rid of the “glass” ceiling and put blacks in these positions over honkies now!

What say you Moonbat!s? Where is the compassion?”

Puddy, there is no comparison or compassion, because you don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about. Come back after you’ve taken a course in the history of political thought post 1789.

25. Puddybud Who Left The Reservation spews:

So Stupidman: You agree with Ron Paul and his description of 9/11?

26. Puddybud Who Left The Reservation spews:

Still Dumb and a Real Ass@12: Ummm… National Socialist Party, NAZI took away the German people’s right to keep person weapons in 1931-32.

Progressives of the NEW Democrat Party want to take away your Second Amendment right today.

Hmmm…, I see similarities! Don’t you Still Dumb and a Real Ass?

27. John Barelli spews:

Oh, and Puddybud?

While I appreciate the link to a moderately interesting news story, I’m not sure where you get either your “headline” or your last paragraph from that story or from anything else Senator Clinton said.

Productivity is going up and real wages for the folks that actually do the producing are going down.

I’d also be interested to see how corporate earnings, in the form of either increased stock value or stockholder dividents are doing in comparison to senior executive salaries.

My understanding, from those days when the darling of the right, President Reagan was running for office was that you folks claim “a rising tide lifts all boats”.

Seems like you’re willing to let the actual producers sink.

28. Puddybud Who Left The Reservation spews:

Golly Seattledan, you’s the new genius here on ‘Wipes. You know all about us black peeples! Tell me mo about yo compassion for the inner city slum dweller!

29. John Barelli spews:

Puddybud:

Regarding the thoughts of Rep. Paul.

Let’s see. His assumption is that the folks in the Middle East don’t hate us because we’re free so much as they hate us because we put military bases in their countries and support their enemies.

When we do go to their countries, we often act disrespectfully toward them, their culture and their religion. Not always, but too often.

Actually, having been there more times and for longer periods than Rep. Paul, I think that the problem is much more complicated than his assessment, and that their is a certain resentment simply to our way of life, or more precisely, to what they perceive as our way of life.

But… Rep. Paul is at least willing to talk about the fact that we’ve done a rather poor job of diplomacy and understanding in the Middle East over a long period of time. We ally ourselves with unpopular and repressive regimes and are seen by many as helping to quash the very freedoms we believe in.

We’re not alone in our attitudes in that region of the world, and that too is a problem. When the British pretty much ran everything over there, they tended to act in a very condescending and heavy-handed manner. People there see us as doing things the same way, and they don’t like it.

And so, some of them don’t like us much. Why would it be considered unpatriotic to admit that?

30. Roger Rabbit spews:

@4 Nobody cares what you think.

31. Roger Rabbit spews:

@23 You’re the dumbass, peckerwood. The only person talking about taking away personal weapons is you. The rest of us are buying guns as fast as the factories can make ‘em! If you don’t believe me, check out the current issue of Business Week, wherein Smith & Wesson is described as a “hot growth company”.

32. Roger Rabbit spews:

@24 The math works like this. Last year, at least 3 CEOs were compensated over ONE BILLION DOLLARS. The only way that amount of cash can flow to executives is by flowing away from workers and shareholders.

Any questions?

33. Proud To Be An Ass spews:

@26: One can understand somebody playing the race card, but playing the stupid card? You must be kidding.

34. Puddybud Who Left The Reservation spews:

Pelletman DumbASS: Your party wants to take away guns. Hmmm… what did Kerry say in 2004 then he flipped on it…?

35. Puddybud Who Left The Reservation spews:

John Barelli: That’s why we blacks need some of that BIG money to help fix the inner city. You Moonbat!s had Congressional control from 1954 to 1994 and y’all did nuthin for the inner city. I know I was born and raised in one. What say you? Does Rainier or MLK and Othello scare you?

Hyperbole is lost on a Moonbat!

36. Puddybud Who Left The Reservation spews:

Pelletman: What part of #26 is not true?

37. Puddybud Who Left The Reservation spews:

Headlice Loocie AKA Col Biff AKA Col Tucker AKA Harry Poon AKA Emily Littela@6:

Why won’t you answer my three questions? Since you are a chicken, don’t address me until you can!

38. RightEqualsStupid spews:

Remember, this asshole-eating, cum-drunk whore of a traitor Puffybutt claims to be a Christian. That’s ALL you need to know about Christianity.

39. John Barelli spews:

Puddybud

No, Rainier doesn’t scare me, and Hilltop (the Tacoma neighborhood with a similar reputation) figured out that the way to deal with the issue of crime in their neighborhood was to stop tolerating it.

Despite the fact that the state has, over many years used Tacoma as the dumping grounds for every person released from prison, it’s getting a lot better. Lots of reasons, but local folks getting involved was the biggest one.

Democrats finally learned that just “throwing money at a problem” wasn’t the answer. It took us a few years, especially considering that the answers actually require at least a bit of money. Politicians of either stripe do not do nuance well, but enough of them are figuring things out that there is improvement.

Yes, Puddybud, before you even go there, I currently live near Gig Harbor, and I have no plans to live in Hilltop. I’ve lived in central Oakland, Inglewood and Lennox in California, and in an area of Bremerton where turning the whole neighborhood into a Navy parking garage was a huge improvement. Been there, done that.

Now I go back to deliver Thanksgiving dinners to families in Hilltop (and other low income neighborhoods) and to list and sell properties (low income neighborhoods on the Key Peninsula).

Are Democrats perfect in handling problems of poverty and crime? No, of course we’re not. But we do realize that something needs to be done, and are willing to try. For example, putting more Police on the street and funding training programs.

Not everything works, and some things are good ideas where the execution is bungled. Welcome to real life.

Additionally, while larger cities tend to vote for Democrats, they are also areas of higher crime. Hey, guess what? Not a whole bunch of hardened criminals want the head out to the corn fields of Iowa.

While Republicans like to point out that the urban cores (that tend to be mostly Democratic) have higher crime rates, they often forget to mention that they are the economic engines of the surrounding regions. Criminals go where there are people with jobs and money. Who’d have thunk it?

40. emily littela spews:

re 23:

…”we blacks saw woodpeckers as the freak show (representation for Stupidman) for working class white peeps.”

I know. Woodpeckers work for a living — blackbirds steal.

41. Puddybud Who Left The Reservation spews:

John, if throwing money at the problem is NOT THE ANSWER in Tacoma, then why oh why is that the standard Democratic answer to everything else everywhere else? Ted Chappaquiddick Kennedy wants to throw money at it. Dick Turban Durbin wants to throw money at it. Nancy New Face Pelosi does too, and so on and so on!

42. Puddybud Who Left The Reservation spews:

Headlice Loocie AKA Col Biff AKA Col Tucker AKA Harry Poon AKA Emily Littela@6 is on ignore until “he” answers my three questions!

43. John Barelli spews:

Puddybud:

“John, if throwing money at the problem is NOT THE ANSWER in Tacoma, then why oh why is that the standard Democratic answer to everything else everywhere else? Ted Chappaquiddick Kennedy wants to throw money at it. Dick Turban Durbin wants to throw money at it. Nancy New Face Pelosi does too, and so on and so on!

First, Puddybud, you might want to read the whole post, not just pick out one phrase.

Your comment simply rehashes the standard Republican talking point and a few insulting names without any evidence whatsoever.

In fact, comparing the spending habits of the Bush administration and the recent Republican congress with that of the Clinton administration, it’s interesting to note who was advocating carefully targeted funding and fiscal responsibility, and who just spent like drunken Sailors on a short liberty.

Do some solutions require funding? Of course they do. Putting extra police on the street helps to make neighborhoods safer, but those extra officers do expect to draw a paycheck.

Do after-school recreation programs help divert kids away from gangs? Yes again, and while they can be done very cheaply, they are not free either, although an argument can easily be made that they are far cheaper than dealing with the problems caused by larger and more powerful gangs.

Exactly what big-spending social programs have Speaker Pelosi, Senator Kennedy or Senator Durban proposed that you take issue with?

Certainly, there are some large problems that might require additional funding that are being looked at. Health care is probably on top of the list, and it’s been a long-standing Democratic priority, so you can expect that once we have a Democratic President, along with a Democratic Congress, we’ll want to take it on.

Will it require more money than the current system? Maybe, maybe not. The current system has enormous waste built into it, and actually does cover just about everyone, although it does a rather poor job of it. Vaccines and routine health care tends to be much cheaper than emergency room visits. We’ll see, as there isn’t anything concrete on the table yet.

Other big spending priorities? Many of them are structured so that they pay for themselves. Increased student loan (and even grant) programs tend to be self-funding through increased productivity and therefore, increased revenue.

(Example – a $10,000 scholarship to someone that would otherwise not be able to afford higher education. The difference in earnings between a college grad and a non-college grad is roughly 13,000 annually (1996 numbers). Assuming 40 years of working, that gives us over a half million dollars in additional income. Even at relatively low tax rates, the extra tax revenue brought in more than pays for the scholarship.)

Lots of nuance here, and as I mentioned, politicians do not do nuance very well. Far easier to complain about a couple thousand dollars for “midnight basketball” than to compare the cost of the program against the cost of dealing with gang related activities.

44. Puddybud Who Left the Reservation spews:

John Barelli: I do unto you what everyone here does. Choose a sentence and make it REAL. Sorry you don’t like that!

Speaking of health care, I have a great Canadian friend. They said a parent needed a critical medical procedure and she’s had to wait for many months.

Many things you propose in #43 I agree with. Other things which you know I know you know are the items I take umbrage with!

45. John Barelli spews:

Yes, Puddybud, I know. But I don’t generally do it to you. While I realize that there are some important philosophical differences between us, there are areas where we can find common ground.

Other areas, as important as they are, we’ll just have to agree to disagree, and work them out at the polls. (Although it would be interesting to debate them with you. I think that I understand your viewpoint, although I disagree. I’m not sure you really understand mine, although I doubt that it would change your position.)

You also know that I believe in dialog, even when I disagree with someone. Civil discourse is much more likely to find solutions than angry rhetoric, and even when it doesn’t it allows the people to work together in areas where they do agree.

Not, of course, that I am always perfect at that.

46. John Barelli spews:

Oh, and on that subject of health care. While the easiest argument is to simply compare life expectancies between the US and Canada (they’ve got us beat) I have a somewhat better argument that I can make.

My family and I have been on a government-run health care system for most of my adult life. It actually runs very much like many of the Canadian systems (each Province runs its own system, and some are better than others) as TriCare (the military medical benefit program for families and retirees) is a basic managed care program.

And yes, I’ve had to wait for elective medical procedures myself, but overall, I’m pretty happy with the care that my family and I receive.