Tippecanoe and Palin Too

His Democratic opponents derided him as too old for the presidency.  They called him “granny.”  They even suggested that he might be senile.  Yet despite lingering questions about his age and his health, and largely on his reputation as a war hero, William Henry Harrison was elected the ninth President of the United States, taking the oath of office on March 4, 1841.

One month later, he was dead.

It can be a mistake to draw too many parallels from one historical event to another, yet the election of 1840 and the turbulent years that followed should serve as a stark reminder of the importance of every president’s first major decision, that of choosing his running mate.  Harrison was 68 years old when he won the White House, the oldest president to be elected until Ronald Reagan, and the first to die in office.  His successor, John Tyler, proved an ineffective and unpopular president.

President Tyler was scorned and ridiculed by both parties, dismissed by his critics as “His Accidency.”  He was the first president to have a veto overridden by Congress, and the first to be the target of an impeachment resolution.  He was also the first sitting US president refused nomination for a second term by his own party.  Tyler has gone down in history as one of the least effective US presidents, and as the first in a series of weak chief executives whose actions (or lack thereof) laid the immediate groundwork for the Civil War.

The speculation and debate surrounding vice presidential picks usually focuses on electoral calculus—on efforts to balance the strengths and weaknesses of the presidential nominee, and achieve a broader demographic and/or geographic appeal.  But this politicization of the decision ignores its real world consequences, for while it may be considered distasteful to dwell on the mortality of our elected leaders, history tells us that vice presidents often ascend to the Oval Office upon the death or resignation of their predecessor, and thus their qualification to serve in that capacity should always be our number one concern.

Of the 38 men to have been elected President since 1789, eight have failed to complete their final term—more than one out of five. And at 72 years old, in remission from cancer for a second time (he had deadly melanomas removed in 1993 and 2000), the possibility of a President John McCain’s death or incapacitation in office is far from remote.  Hopeful Americans stand in line to plunk down hard earned cash on a 1 in 120,000,000 chance to hit the Powerball lottery, yet if history is any guide, a Vice President Sarah Palin would stand a roughly 1 in 4.75 chance of succeeding John McCain before the end of his second term.

Those are damn good odds for Palin.  And damn bad odds for the US and the world if she is unprepared to lead our nation through our current turbulent times.


  1. 1

    YLB spews:

    Palin is an impressive example of right wing plotting by Karl Rove.

    She’s a female George Bush – a lightweight who will be thrust into a job way over her head. She’ll have no choice but to do as she’s told and read what’s scripted for her. And she seems quite happy to do it.

    She’s a fish out of water in D.C. Already she looks kind of like a deer in the headlights. Not all that sure of what she’s gotten herself into.

    It’s so laughable to see the wingnuts touting her “executive experience”. Alaskans are scratching their heads wondering if the vetting team ever bothered to read Alaskan newspapers.

  2. 2

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    The only thing Republicans are good for is substitute tent stakes. I pound on their heads to drive their feet into the ground. But they’re so weak they don’t hold even in a mild breeze.

  3. 3

    anonymous spews:

    We may be seeing the first woman president. As a Democrat, I am reeling,” said Camille Paglia, the cultural critic. “That was the best political speech I have ever seen delivered by an American woman politician. Palin is as tough as nails.”

  4. 4

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    If Obama picked the mayor of Yelm as his running mate, the entire country would laugh at him. But that’s what McCain did, so why should any voter take the GOP ticket seriously?

  5. 5

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Just imagine what would happen on Nov. 4 if McCain, God-spirit forbid, had a disabling stroke between now and then. Why, his speeches would sound like they do now.

  6. 6

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    If voters elect McCain, imagine what would happen if he had a disabling stroke between the election and Jan. 19 …

  7. 7

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @1 Ever since Agnew, I’ve believed Republican presidents deliberately choose unqualified vice presidents as insurance against their own impeachment. Their idea is to have a vice president so distasteful and frightening that Democrats won’t dare remove them from office no matter would they do.

  8. 8

    YLB spews:

    3 – Huh? I watched it. Not impressed at all.

    Camille Paglia is a lesbian whose childhood crush and obsession was Amelia Earhart. I see a little of the old juices flowing there.

    I’ve got a lot of respect for Prof. Paglia but her political thinking always tends towards the superficial.

    Kind of like the wingnuts!

  9. 9

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @1 (continued) She has more executive experience than Dino Rossi, who supervised one part-time janitor when he was a college student.

  10. 10

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    But then, experience doesn’t matter if you’re a wingnut ideologue who doesn’t give a damn if our country falls apart. Which it is doing rapidly under GOP rule.

  11. 11

    Reggie spews:

    First of all how in the world can anyone take an article seriously when it offers Wikipedia has as a source for any information. You’d get nailed hard if you tried to offer that up in an academic setting.


    I think this ticket actually makes it a fair fight. We have a couple of novice politicians with their main selling points that they are minorities. Then we have a couple of grizzled old school politician that I personally wouldn’t vote for either of them …UNLESS I HAD TO. (and I don’t have to)

    As Chris Matthews said in an interview on CSpan, “are you comfortable having your inexperience on the top of the ticket or on the bottom of the ticket? Those are your choices.

    Saying that Palin isn’t experienced enough to be president can backfire. It can also be used to highlight the fact that Obama really isn’t experienced enough to be president either. The Democrats should be very careful how they approach this”

    As an Obama supporter I wish that Obama/Biden would spend more time telling us specifics on what they plan to do to make this country better. Less time on why McCain is a bad choice. I already know why McCain is bad.

  12. 12

    YLB spews:

    7 – Agnew and Palin, are similar in that both kind of “backed into” their governorships. Neither would have become a Governor on the merits were it not for other circumstances, in Agnew’s case, an over-the-top racist on the Dem ticket, and in Palin’s case, a throw the bums out mood in Alaska – the bums being Republicans.

  13. 13

    cmiklich spews:

    Palin has more far more experience than the Obamessiah. She has actually been a leader at several levels. Mayor, Committee chairman (that alone is more of a leadership position than Barry Hussein has EVER HELD), Governor.

    Barry Hussein was, oooooooooh, a Community Organizer. Ooooooooooh.

    Plus, she’s hot. Barry O is a fag.

  14. 14

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Palin Flip-Flopped On ‘Bridge To Nowhere’

    “ANCHORAGE, Alaska -Gov. Sarah Palin was for the so-called infamous ‘Bridge to Nowhere’ before she was against it, a change of position [she] … ignored Saturday when she bragged about telling Congress ‘thanks but no thanks’ to the pork barrel project. …

    “After McCain introduced her as his choice for vice president …, Palin talked about her reform credentials, and said she stopped the bridge project ….

    “She didn’t talk that way when she was running for governor. The Anchorage Daily News quoted her on Oct. 22, 2006, as saying yes, she would continue state funding for the bridge because she wanted swift action on infrastructure projects. ‘The window is now while our congressional delegation is in a strong position to assist,’ she said. …

    “Andrew Halcro ran against Palin in the 2006 governor’s race, receiving the third most voters, and remains a critic. In his blog and Web site, Halcro raised the bridge issue, saying Palin changed her position for political purposes. …

    “According to the Ketchikan Daily News, the bridge issue came up on Sept. 20, 2006, during an appearance the gubernatorial candidates made in Ketchikan. ‘The money that’s been appropriated for the project, it should remain available for a link, an access process as we continue to evaluate the scope and just how best to just get this done,’ the newspaper quoted Palin as saying. ‘This link is a commitment to help Ketchikan expand its access, to help this community prosper.’
    The newspaper also reported that she said ‘I think we’re going to make a good team as we progress that bridge project.’ …

    “Ketchikan Mayor Bob Weinstein … said he was there at the candidate forum when ‘she was asked about the bridge and she supported it.’

    “Bill McAllister, Palin’s press secretary, questioned how she could have used the scuttled bridge project to promote herself in national politics when she got there a week ago as McCain’s unexpected choice for the ticket.”

    (Quoted from Associated Press under fair use.)

  15. 15

    ANONYMOUS spews:

    Expect Sen. Obama to soon claim, “That’s not the Bill Burton I knew.”

    “Today, John McCain put the former mayor of a town of 9,000 with zero foreign policy experience a heartbeat away from the presidency. Governor Palin shares John McCain’s commitment to overturning Roe v. Wade, the agenda of Big Oil and continuing George Bush’s failed economic policies — that’s not the change we need, it’s just more of the same,” said Burton in a prepared statement that has since been expunged from the Obama campaign website.

    Obama himself immediately distanced himself from the statement. “I think that, uhhh, you know, campaigns start getting these, uhhh, hair triggers and, uhhh, the statement that Joe and I put out reflects our sentiment,” he said when confronted by the media about his campaign’s prepared statement.


    Obama recognizes that he is vulnerable to charges that he is hostile to small town America after he revealed behind the closed doors of a San Francisco mansion that he believes many small town Americans are bitter about their lives and cling to their guns and religion. The comments hurt Sen. Obama with rural and working class voters in states such as Pennsylvania, West Virginia and Indiana.

    These developments seem to indicate an evolving strategy for Team Obama: Instead of having the presidential nominee carry the negative, anti-small town message, as in San Francisco, they will have campaign operatives and surrogates handle the dirty work. It remains to be seen, however, whether or not small town Americans will be fooled.

  16. 16

    Richard Pope spews:

    Goldy, I think the analogy would have been more appropriate if McCain had picked Lieberman. William Henry Harrison was a Whig, and John Tyler was a life-long Democrat (who had joined the Whig Party only to be on the ticket). Basically, after Harrison died, Tyler governed mostly with Democratic policies, to the great anger of the Whig Party, and was soon kicked out by the Whigs. In fact, he vetoed practically all the Whig platform legislation passed by Congress!

    In addition to being from a different party than Harrison, Tyler also had a wide variety of political experience. He had served two terms in the U.S. House, two terms in the U.S. Senate (resigning during his second term), one term in the Virginia legislature, and one term as Virginia governor.

  17. 17

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @13 I’ve never heard of Barry Obama. Who’s he? One thing I can say, though, is that President Barack Obama will be a better steward of our tax money than the Alaska mayor who wanted to spend $325 million on a bridge to an island with 50 people living on it. That works out to $6.5 million per person. It would be cheaper to buy them each a personal yacht.

  18. 18


    Reggie @11,

    How can anyone take seriously the comment of somebody who blithely dismisses an entire post because it contains a single link to Wikipedia… without even looking at the Wikipedia article itself?

    I merely reference Wikipedia in regards to my assertion that “Tyler has gone down in history as one of the least effective US presidents,” … a Wikipedia page that references a dozen independent surveys ranking US presidents.

    Talk about a lazy critique.

  19. 19

    anonymous spews:

    babbling barry the teleprompter twit has been ruined.

    Can anyone tell us who the talking heads on the alphabet channels are talking about today? I’ll give you a hint: it’s not the mochachino marxist and his old time laundry list liberalism soliloquey!

  20. 20

    YLB spews:

    Saying that Palin isn’t experienced enough to be president can backfire.

    It’s perfectly true that she lacks experience but we’re not really saying that. Given McCain’s age and medical history, it’s highly likely she WILL be President if McSame prevails and she will be just as bad if not worse than George Bush.

    McSame has flip-flopped to be the same as Bush. Palin seals the deal. The Republican powers that be WANT BUSH WITHOUT BUSH.

    We vote for a politician for President and Obama is one of the best we’ve seen in a long time. There’s no comparison. Palin has some talent in the superficial perception and killer instinct departments but there’s no way a person like her would be good for this country.

    She’d be just like Bush – a total disaster.

  21. 21

    YLB spews:

    13 – Nobody cares what you have to say.

    Go back to looking for those drilling rigs off Cuba.

  22. 22


    Richard @16,

    Well, I never claimed it was a perfect analogy. To me, the big parallel is that like Harrison, McCain is an old man, flirting with mortality, and with a running mate chosen for purely political reasons.

    There are other parallels by the way… the trumped up war hero thing, and the fact that Harrison emphasized his common roots while accusing Van Buren of being an elitist, when it was actually the other way around. But mostly I’m trying to point out the fact that VPs often fill out the final term of their predecessors… five times in the previous century. So Palin’s qualifications to be president must be closely examined.

  23. 23

    Emmanuel Goldstein spews:

    McCain’s pick for V.P. is an example of creeping dementia. His age is affecting his judgment.

    If it’s not dementia, it has to be appalling political expediency. McCain is so selfish that he would put the safety of our country in the charge of an experienced hockey-mom.

    It is insulting to the rest of the world to force them to treat this person, Ms. Palin, with the same respect and gravitas as, say, Anrea Merkel.

    It’s almost comical, pathetic actually, to watch GOP pundits argue this person is qualified to be V.P. They are destroying their reputations. There has to be a cause of action in there someplace.

  24. 24

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @11 Wikipedia may not hack it for an academic paper,* but it’s far superior to Republican talking points.

    * Academics’ objection to Wikipedia is not its accuracy but the fact it’s not original source material. My English Composition professor said we couldn’t quote from, or footnote to, encyclopedias in our term papers. That’s because encyclopedias are compendiums of information, not original source material. Professors want their students to learn how to research, compile from, synthesize, and make sense of original data. You can’t learn how to do that by regurgitating what professional writers and editors wrote. But none of this impugns the accuracy of encyclopedias. In fact, the companies that publish encyclopedias expend vast effort and sums to ensure their accuracy.

    HorsesAss is not an English Comp class. It’s useful for HA readers to get information in condensed form to save time. Wikipedia articles often are heavily footnoted with links, so you have the opportunity to check the original sources if you wish. Wikipedia is the most intensely vetted encyclopedia on earth, as it has literally millions of writers and editors, and any inaccuracy in a Wikipedia article, however insignificant, is sure to be challenged.

    Contrast that with the bullshit spewed by the Republican Party and rightwing noise machine, and your criticism of Wikipedia is laughable.

  25. 25

    anonymous spews:

    In other words, women voters who vote in this election know that they can probably ensure that the next president is a woman, if McCain is elected. That knowledge will pull wavering women away from Obama-Biden and to McCain-Palin.

    Sarah may do more than any person in modern history to close the gender gap, not only for Republicans but for conservatives. Unlike Hillary, who rode into Washington on the back of her husband, Sarah Palin created her own career. Unlike Hillary, who dwells within a small family focused on politics, Sarah has a big family and focuses on life. As a conservative, Sarah Palin sees life as more than politics, election campaigns and litigation. Her husband has a real job in the real economy. Sarah is athletic, animated, alive. Her family seems very real to us. She seems very real to us.

    The biggest catch, though, is Palin herself. She seems utterly genuine. Her life story sounds familiar and comforting. Her words come from her heart. Her ideas come from a mind not trapped in Beltway Newspeak. We want change? She is change. More than just change, though, Sarah Palin represents change for the better. She personifies all the goodness in America which we seem to have lost. Her election will be a shot across the bow of every entrenched politician in the federal government. As a nominee, Sarah works.

    And the Obama campaign asserts with a straight face that Joe Biden’s experience, nearly 40 years of Amtrak round trip ticket punching from Union Station to Wilmington, Delaware is of vice presidential grade, if not fully Oval Office timbre itself.

    Does Sarah Palin have enough experience that matters to be vice president? Well despite it being a work-in-progress, her experience is more than either of the candidates across the aisle. More important it’s the kind of experience that matters to regular Joes and Marys everywhere but in Washington, DC whose punditry in residence will never comprehend.

    bye bye babbling barry, mochachino marxist!

  26. 26

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @15 Obama’s quote didn’t contain the words “small town.” What he actually said was,

    “He was trying to explain his troubles winning over some working-class voters, saying they have become frustrated with economic conditions: ‘It’s not surprising, then, they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or anti-pathy to people who aren’t like them, or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.'”

    (Source: USA Today, April 13, 2008 edition)

    Looks like you got caught lying again. But thanks for playing. I always enjoy kicking your ass.

  27. 27

    busdrivermike spews:


    Sara Palin, PTA member, pot smoking, anti law enforcement tax raising socialist feminazi, is now the DARLING of Marvin Stamn..


    He would vote for Satan himself if he had an (R) next to his name.

    Oh wait, he already has.

    Have another glass of moose stew flavored kool-aid, Marvin, she serves cookies with them.

    Presdident Palin…..HAAHAAHAAAAAAA!!!!

    It is christmas!!!!

  28. 29

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @20 “It’s perfectly true that she lacks experience but we’re not really saying that.”

    Oh yes we are. This woman is no more qualified to be president than the mayor of Seattle, a city with about the same population as the state of Alaska, and an office with about as much exposure to foreign policy as the governor of that state.

  29. 31

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @22 “So Palin’s qualifications to be president must be closely examined.”

    That won’t take more than 5 seconds. She has none.

  30. 34

    busdrivermike spews:

    Hey there is actually a Sarah Palin investigation tipline.


    McSame/Grandma Cheney’08

  31. 35

    busdrivermike spews:

    You know, I think Moveon.org might want to help the Palin investigation by having a nationwide TV commercial. There may be witnesses spread all over the country who need to know there is an investigation going on. Because you never know where a tip may come from.


  32. 36

    VolksMeinung spews:

    While we’re drawing parallels here, let’s not forget that Barak Obama has been compared to both JFK and RFK, both of whom were shot to death…

    Since the parallels are there, we might as well ‘pull a Goldy’ and make the same leap of er..uh..logic. Obama will be shot by a commie (or their more common moniker ‘liberal’) and we’ll be left with another LBJ and his 35% approval rating in good ol plaguarist, Joe Biden who will go around giving people the “Johnson treatment”.

  33. 38

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @36 If something happens to Obama, it’s much more likely to be at the hands of an angry rightwing white male racist … you know, a Republican.

  34. 39

    K spews:

    @ 36- I’ll see your “Biden plagarism” and raise you a “McCain Keating 5″. Isn’t corruption worse than a failure to attribute a quote? If every failing, ever is fair game, then tell me about McCain’s adultery.

  35. 40

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @36 (continued) What’s a “plaguarist”? I can’t find that word in the dictionary.

    P.S., Learn how to spell, you fucking trailer park dweller!

  36. 41

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @37 I still say she looks more like an administrative assistant than Vice President of the United States.

  37. 42

    K spews:

    Evangelicals pray for rain on Obama’s speech and the skys are clear. Republicans start their convention and a hurricane bears down on the US.

    Just wonderin’

  38. 43

    ByeByeGOP spews:

    The wingnuts would have gone crazy if the REAL maverick John McCain showed up and picked Ridge or Liebermann – but instead – McSame showed up. The party bosses wouldn’t let him pick who he wanted. And to be sure, they won’t actually let him run the country. Karl Rove and his storm troopers will STILL run the country – they’ll just have different talking heads in the White House – that is – if we let them steal another election.

  39. 44

    Reggie spews:


    You don’t highlight your opponent’s weakness if it’s your weakness as well. It’s a dumb gameplan with no upside.

    We are both on the same side on this issue. I just think you shouldn’t play this card at all. It’s not productive to Obama.

  40. 45

    YLB spews:

    For sure, Sarah Palin, has been a BIG distraction.

    Let’s get back to the real business:

    WANT 4 more years of McSame?

    Then get out the vote, GOTV, GOTV, GOTV…

    The stupid wingnuts here want 4 more years of McSame..

    How’d the last 8 work out?


  41. 46

    VolksMeinung spews:

    @38 it’s right wing not ‘rightwing’ that’s not in the dictionary. blah blah blah. Fool.

    I think that we all know it was the Dems who voted by race/sex. Need I bring up the exit polls for West Virginia or South Carolina?

    Keep yapping away because you unlike the rest of America you long for the ‘Johnson treatment’.

  42. 47

    Mark The Redneck-Patriot spews:

    Just wondering…

    if Barack Hussein Obama challenges Palin’s qualifications to be leader of the free world, would it be wrong to say that’s sorta like “the pot calling the kettle black”?

    Let me know…

  43. 48

    Marvin Stamn spews:

    1. YLB spews:
    Already she looks kind of like a deer in the headlights.

    I saw that picture too.
    Let me explain it to you.
    She was moose hunting, you saw the reflection of the moose in her glasses.

  44. 49

    My Left Foot spews:

    Mark the Redneck cocksucking ignoranus.

    You want to compare an 18 month governor of a state with a population smaller than El Fucking Paso, TX, hockey mom, mayor of a burg, to a sitting United States Senator, Harvard Education, President of Harvard Law Review, 12 years Professor of CONSTITUTIONAL law?

    There is no comparison. I am more qualified to be president than she is. McSame is tossing a Hail Mary and after the novelty wears off (right about now) the voting public will see right through the ploy, or more accurately, huge fucking losing gamble.

    Prediction: Within 14 days she is removed from the ticket due to improper, incomplete and incompetent vetting by a desperate party trying desperately to hold on to a hopeless thread of hope that it will be able to hold on to some sort of a thread of power.

    You really need that windectomy. (Surgery to place a window in your abdomen so you can see where you are going with your head up your ass.)

    What a Moe-ron!

  45. 51

    anonymous spews:

    Oh look the emufucker got his “Hail Mary pss” talking points. Isn’t he cute!

  46. 52

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @43 “The wingnuts would have gone crazy if the REAL maverick John McCain showed up …”

    It’s doubtful if there ever was a “maverick” John McCain, but if there was, his metamorphosis into a hard-right panderer is the most egregious flip-flop of all time.

  47. 53

    ByeByeGOP spews:


    Now we see why McSame likes this cunt Palin. She’s a flip flopper just like Johnboy!

    Now if only she were old enough to have been a coward who made 30 propaganda films for the VC during Nam like Johnboy did they’d be a perfect match!

  48. 54

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @44 Don’t be silly. Obama is infinitely more qualified to be president than Palin. She’s a small-market sportscaster and tiny-town mayor with only 20 months of experience as a small-state governor without any exposure to national issues. Her entry this campaign was preceded by 12 hours of preparation.

    He’s a big-city lawyer with years of experience in big-state politics who has been front-and-center on the national stage since giving the keynote speech at the 2004 Democratic National Convention. He has traveled all over the world and met with world leaders. He’s spent the last 3 years preparing to run for president (and be president) and is well briefed on national issues. In fact, as this campaign progresses, it will become apparent that Obama knows more about the issues and is better prepared to make presidential decisions than McCain, despite his longer experience in Washington. After all, McCain can’t keep Shiites and Sunnis straight, apparently doesn’t know which Middle Eastern country we invaded, and doesn’t know how many houses he owns.

    Sarah’s credentials are palin’ in comparison with either Obama or Biden.

    I think Obama should make her lack of experience an issue, although he really doesn’t have to, because her inexperience will be painfully clear to voters every time she opens her mouth.

  49. 55

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @46 Yep, I think we should give Palin the ‘Johnson treatment’ …

    “10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3 … these are the stakes … “

  50. 56

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @47 Are you out? Pay your gambling debt or go back to debtor’s prison, welsher!

  51. 57

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @48 Isn’t that a game law violation? I guess if you’re a Republican, you do whatever you like, and laws be damned …

  52. 58

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @53 See #14 for the sordid details.

    Man, the more we find out about this broad, the worse she looks! And I’m sure those who know her best — her Alaska neighbors — are going to tell us a lot more …

  53. 59

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Google “photo of Putin” on your computer. Study the image on your screen. Then ask yourself if Sarah Palin has what it takes to stare down this man.

  54. 60

    Harry Callahan spews:

    goldy, you’ve got it wrong. you need to put down the crack pipe when you write instead of continuing to smoke. i think you are the one who’s getting a bit senile. and i bet you have skin cancer too!

  55. 61

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @60 That’s all you’ve got? You’d get killed as a Pee Wee League pitcher. Better stay away from games you can’t play, son.

  56. 62

    Harry Callahan spews:

    @61. rabbit, i’ve determined that you are a pussy and a little girl. try again. son? oooooh, i’m shaking in my boots. you are as scary as maureen dowd.

  57. 63

    Rick D. spews:

    Little David Gold stain and his pre-pubescent radio voice is absolutely beside himself with anger for Palin being tapped as Veep. Don’t worry Goldy, those tears will dry up before Christmas I promise.

    She wasn’t my first choice, but given the amount of soiled Democrat diapers that have piled up in the past 48 hours, I have no doubt that it was the right choice.

    So squeal all you like kiddies, McCain/Palin is your future. Get used to it or do what you usually do and get a large box of diapers to get you through the next 8 years of a GOP administration.

    Why do I get the feeling some coward is going to call me “puddlicker” at post 65? Bye Bye GOP: doesn’t it get tired using all those screen names? over at SP you cowardly post under “Friends of all Facts”. I post under only one name (Check with Gold stain to confirm that)

    Fucking chickenshit

  58. 65

    ByeByeGOP spews:

    Since Puddylicker/AKA Rick Dumbass is here we know Puddy is out of his mind with worry. He usually only goes into his alter ego when he knows the right wing traitors are in real trouble.

    Given the bad news for the “GOP”, i.e., the media has started vetting Palin and finding out the truth about her, the Convention has been cancelled for all intents and purposes, and the republicans are down 6-8 points in the legitimate polls, I can see why he’s screaming like a 13-year old girl.

    Oh we’re going to get used to Palin Puddylicker/AKA Rick Dumbass. We’re going to get used to pointing out to right wing turds like you why your team got its ass kicked – AGAIN! HE HE!

  59. 66

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Get your Sarah Palin bumper stickers while supplies last!

    Bridge To Nowhere
    She Was For It Before
    She Was Against It

  60. 67

    ByeByeGOP spews:

    Is Harry Callahan the new name my blog bitch iBurner is using? Figures. I run the cunt off using one name and he resurfaces using another.

    So Harry you’re my new project. Now jump bitch post some more of your bullshit here. I order you cunt! Do my bidding now!

  61. 68

    Rick D. spews:

    ByeByeGOP/Friend of Facts ~ Pick a name already cuntboy.

    The left is absolutely shitting themselves over this pick. Fear is a tremendous motivator as evidenced by Goldy and the other Hack bloggers on this site frantically trying to spread every rumor, falsehood and straight up lies in order to besmirch Palin. Scared shitless that the next 8 years will be under GOP rule.

    McCain’s pick was Palin and since then the Dems have done nothing but Wailing…….Too funny to watch this absolute meltdown of a political party.

    Get out the popcorn for this train wreck known as Obama/Biden 08 ticket.

  62. 69

    gottago60 spews:

    What qualifies as “experience” when it comes to holding public office? Being elected means nothing. It means you can avoid getting yourself into too much trouble by being vague about what you have done or would do, and will attack everyone and everything that does not agree with you. Why all the liberal hand-wringing about Palin? Because she gets things done. She has gotten things done.

    As for Biden — he’s been bought and sold again and again and stands for more of the same. Even if McCain were to have a some sort of health problem, which is merely speculation — like saying you are going to die — it’s true, but in his case, like his mother — he’s going to be around well into his 90’s. Give that argument a rest. It’s nonsense.

    The fact is that Palin will show up, listen, learn and lead as the VP. The only experience that counts is the experience of weighing the options and doing what is right when the time comes. That doesn’t mean borrowing from other’s speeches or being on the judiciary committee and instead of “advice and consent,” blocking qualified judges from the federal bench.

    And the best argument for McCain/Palin — I’ll take experience at the top. That has always been the way someone learns their trade or practice — not having Osama calling Biden to ask permission to do this or that.

  63. 70

    rhp6033 spews:

    Anybody notice that according to the Republicans posting online and commenting in various other places, the size of Palin’s hometown (the one she grew up in and later became Mayor) has almost doubled in size over the weekend?

    The 2000 census had the population at about 5,600 (smaller than the tiny suburban town of Brier, Washington). ?But in the comments above, a Republican poster has the population pegged at 9,000. It may or may not have grown any since the 2000 Census (small rural towns can go either way), but absent some unusual event, I seriously doubt it is almost doubling in size over the past eight years.

    At this rate, by the end of the week the Republicans will be claiming the town was bigger than Chicago.

  64. 71

    ByeByeGOP spews:

    So Puddylicker/Rick Dumbass admits he’s using both names. I use one name BBG. And I don’t need 29 personalities and alias names on this board because I take a simple position. Puddy and his ilk are traitors, scum and cowards. And they picked a bitch with ethics problems and no experience to be one heartbeat away from the keys to the silos. Even republican insiders think this might be a mistake. And the polls show it is. If the election were held today, President Obama would win the Electoral College by the widest margin in decades. And that is why Puddy is screaming like the little cunt he is.

  65. 72

    Bill Cruchon spews:

    Actually Republicans could care less about the size of Wasilla, Alaska, which is actually only a short drive from Anchorage. Liberals want everyone to believe Wasilla is in the middle of the Alaskan wilderness and has gunfights at the local saloon every Saturday night for amusement.

    I love the articles showing Palin posing with a deer she shot, or taking aim with a high-powered rifle, or talking about how she “hates polar bears”. All of which are going to backfire on leftists who haven’t the slightest clue about the demographics that won Richard Nixon 49 states and elected Ronald Reagan twice.

    The left is a nasty place in the best of times, they are even nastier when they’re scared. And they are scared to death.

    Not everyone in the country sits around after their yoga classes sipping chai lattes and sniffing about those awful pro-life Republicans. You people really need to get out more.

  66. 73

    rhp6033 spews:

    By the way, I’m in Japan on business, so my postings may be pretty inconsistent. Among my impressions since my arrival last night:

    1. Ten hour plane flights, plus three hours at the airport in advance, and two hours to get from Narita to Tokyo, hurts my back.

    2. United is improving it’s service on international flights. That’s a really big surprise. Downside: when a flight is scheduled to leave at 12:55 p.m. and arrive in Tokyo around 3:00 p.m. the next day, how does it make sense to have your meal service consist of TWO LUNCHES????

    3. Public Transit system in Japan is awesome, as usual.

    4. Watching BBC World News Service from my hotel this morning. They devoted a half-hour to the U.S. Presidential race, with a discussion among members of a panel consisting of one Brit moderator, a U.S. journalist, a Russian correspondent from TASS, a Chinese writer (didn’t catch her publication, but she spoke English flawlessly), and someone else I never figured out who they were. The panelists were very well informed and bright. Wish we had more of that here. They kept asking why the race was so tight considering Obama impresses each of them regarding his intelligence and inspirational qualities, the Republican record, the economy, and the continuing war in Iraq. The U.S. journalist could only respond that Obama was struggling not to suffer from the same fate as Adlain Stevenson – a brilliant and articulate candidate whom American voters thought was “not one of them”.

    5. Everybody here asks me who is going to win the election. Bush & the Republican Party has been pretty much an open joke in Japan for quite some time. They can’t figure out how he was re-electedin 2004. If McCain wins in 2008, they figure it just proves that Americans aren’t very bright, and our education system sucks. Palin is an unknown to them, they don’t know whether it is significant or not. I guess I couldn’t tell you who is second-in-line to the Prime Minister of Japan, either.

    6. The really big question they ask: Will the Boeing Machinists strike? (Probably). If so, how long (until somebody gives up). A week? (more like a month or three. I can’t see the Union taking it through the Holidays). Boeing gets some benefit from a strike, they can blame further delays on the 787 line on the strike, it allows their suppliers to catch up on deliveries. The Union knows that this might be their last chance to get major improvements in the contract for the next decade or so.

  67. 74

    Puddybud spews:

    YLB farted again: Palin is an impressive example of right wing plotting by Karl Rove.

    First off yelling loser boy, did you read what Karl Rove said? Did you listen to what he said on H&C about his involvement with McCain?

    Since I know it’s no on both accounts show us your proof!

  68. 75

    Blue John spews:

    Yeah, I’m worried.
    But I see a silver lining, if mccain is elected, it will be incredibly powerful for the progressive movement. Four more years of bush, but with a more conservative bent, will destroy the republican party for generations. As the economy goes to hell, the middle class continues to shrink, everything is outsourced, the dollar crashes, inflation goes wild and the republican only policies is continue to cut taxes for the rich and use every government agency to promote one’s friends, and forcing the extreme conservative agenda on everyone, the backlash will be dramatic.
    That assumes the country survives that long.

  69. 76

    Puddybud spews:

    Looks like yelling loser boy is a 2-fer on this thread with post #8.

    Moron – Camille Paglia is a lesbian Donkey jock-strap (supporter) from waaaaay back. She supported Hillary.

    You are more the fool today!

  70. 77

    Rick D. spews:

    @ 71 – Are you stupid or willfully ignorant? I said I post under only one name Rick D. you ignorant asstube. If you don’t believe it I’m sure David Gold stain will confirm. I swear you keep getting dumber by the post.

    RHP~ I’m sure you’re in the “She inexperienced” crowd too, right? Obama is a group decider and Palin is an executive decision maker. You wailing clowns can scream all you want, but any sane individual alive will agree that the Governor of the State of Alaska makes more executive decisions than some Freshman Jr. Senator from Illinois. You tards keep deluding yourselves thinking any different. Meanwhile, we’ll still be laughing all the way to Whitehouse in November.

    Good luck kiddies, you’ll need it.Oh, and RHP, Stay away from the Vending machines over there in Japan.Then again, I’m sure Goldy would be more than happy to receive a “souvenir” from your time in Roppangi.

  71. 78

    Puddybud spews:

    Pelletizer shitted: @13 I’ve never heard of Barry Obama.

    Review previous threads on this blog dumb bunny. It was explained by Barack’s own words when he lived in Hawaii.

    This post above by the Pelletizer proves his oxygen disabled brain has small memory capacity left.

  72. 80

    YLB spews:

    S.T.U.P.E.S spell L.O.S.E.R.

    Paglia has never liked Hillary. Said Obama would be crazy to take Hillary as a Veep.

    Keep it up fool all the way to November!


  73. 81

    YLB spews:

    These wingnuts are dreaming of a moose-baggin’ momma for Prez?

    Pam Roach anyone?

    It’s Obama/Biden in a walk..

  74. 83

    Blue John spews:

    — Mayoral performance. Palin, who portrays herself as a fiscal conservative, racked up nearly $20 million in long-term debt as mayor of the tiny town of Wasilla — that amounts to $3,000 per resident. She argues that the debt was needed to fund improvements.

    Ouch. Not that it matters to conservatives any more.

  75. 84

    Rick D. spews:

    Yearns4 Little Boys ~ You keep telling yourself that pervert boy (are you looking in the mens stall or some ladies apartment you pervert eyed freak?).
    Just be sure to keep the suicide hotline on speed dial on November 4th when you’re thinking of finding the nearest bridge in Seattle to plunge off of….

    McCain/Palin…….then came the wailin’
    haha I think I’ll copyright that.

  76. 85

    YellowPup spews:

    Today I was reminded that George W. Bush was sold to us in 2000 as having foreign policy experience because of Texas’s proximity to Mexico. I was reading the McCain campaign’s line that Palin has foreign policy expertise because Alaska is so close to Siberia.

    Yes, Siberia, from where undocumented former Soviet moose and caribou can be found trying to swim across the Bering Strait illegally to a better life with their brethren in the U.S.

    If anyone is buying these arguments all over again, I have a bridge to nowhere I’d like to sell you…. Anyone who would is just groping for any excuse to vote for McCain that they can find.

  77. 86

    My Left Foot spews:


    No, dumbass, what Goldy is saying is that Palin is not qualified.

    How do you justify her qualifications to have her finger on the button if/when McCain bites the dust?

    The honest answer is that you can’t.

    Because she is not.

    End of story.

    ‘Nuff said!! (Credit Puddy)

  78. 87

    My Left Foot spews:


    Palin won’t last 2 weeks on the ticket. Muckrackers, journalists and her “friends” will squeal like pigs, sing like birds and generally trip over themselves to get the dirt on this woman and ruin her for no other reason than she so richly deserves it. She was not properly vetted. No way, no how.

  79. 88



    So Goldy is saying Palin is less experienced than Obama? Hasn’t she been a Governor almost two years, while Obama has been a Senator for only 143 working days?

    Please explain. I’m having trouble following Goldy’s math.

  80. 89

    Steve spews:

    Just how many screen names does Puddy post under? Any chance Goldy could hold a contest, like guessing the number beans in a Mason jar at the county fair? Or would it be easier to name the trolls who aren’t a Puddy alias? I’m guessing that there are no more than three or four trolls posting here with a couple dozen screen names among them.

  81. 90

    Jeff spews:

    Troll @ 88.

    You forget Obama has been a U.S. Senator since 2004, but a State Senator since 1997. I would also bet a hell of a lot that the Illinois District that Obama represented was a hell of a lot bigger then the 5,505 person metropolis that is Wasilla, Alaska.

    That misses the point though. Obama has been vetted in the public eye. He has survived a 18 month campaign with dozens and dozens of debates, as has Joe Biden. His expertise is an excellent compliment to Obama.

    Governor Palin has not been vetted. No one knew of her before Friday. The Governor of a state with a smaller population then San Jose, CA? If Obama had put the mayor of San Jose on the ticket, the right wing would have lost their minds. “What credibility does that mayor have?” Blah…blah…blah.

    That said, I believe Obama and Biden would do well to avoid attacking her and keep on hitting McCain. Simply put, it’s working. More and more people are believing in the message of Barack Obamaand Joe Biden and as a result, John McCain is finally being seen as the pandering, cantankerous, flip-flopping, out-of-touch, economically ignorant, anti-equal rights, war-mongering pol that he is.

  82. 92

    gottago60 spews:

    @ 87 – not properly vetted? How so? what criteria is she missing? How is she not measuring up? It is impossible to truthfully say she is not qualified to be the VP of the USA.

    She’s got experience and integrity. The things people are trying to hang her with are “parking tickets” in the scheme of things – assuming they are accurate at all. She’s 44 years old and has more experience at things that matter than Osama does. She has been there and done it. The country is not ready for a “community organizer” to receive on-the-job training.

    The future of the USA is secure and prosperous with McCain and Palin.

  83. 93

    Puddybud spews:

    Steve, HAs Biggest ASSHole@89: Are you still drinking large swigs of your Steve’s Stupid Solution?

    Maybe you patent it as you are proving how dumb you are.

    Can’t you figger it out?

  84. 94

    Puddybud spews:

    Jeff Remember what Biden said about Obama?

    Do you headbutt your shoes during the day?

  85. 95

    Puddybud spews:

    And Jeff, people will start figgering out when the press attacks Palin, they are Obama’s surrogates!

  86. 96

    My Left Foot spews:


    Nice talking point meme.

    Now move along. I could get what you just said 47 times a day on Faux News.

    Palin has severe integrity question, her education is sorely lacking, her experience is that of a mayor of a town smaller that El Paso, TX.

    As was stated before: Obama has been around the world, met world leaders, worked on the ground at the grass roots level, built a career as a communicator (Reagan, anyone?) has a vision of his own, not the carbon copy of Bush/McCain that Palin spouts.

    Secure and prosperous? Um, well 9/11 happened on your watch. As for prosperous, record unemployment, record gas prices, record foreclosures, record bank foldings, runaway food prices, jobs being shipped overseas, runaway health care costs….shall I continue? Unless you consider record oil company profits, record bank profits and record insurance company profits as being indicative of a prosperous economy?

    Kindly, cram your talking points. I, and America, have pretty much had enough.

  87. 97

    Steve spews:

    @93 Maybe I missed something. Was that post intended to display your towering intellect? Maybe one of your alter-egos will show up to help you out.

    “sucka” “wanna dance?”

    That still cracks me up. What a fucking loser you are.

  88. 98


    Well, I don’t believe the office of President is primarily about past experience. It think vision and values plays a larger role. If it were just about experience, we wouldn’t have voting. The politician with the longest service in congress or as a governor would automatically fill the position.

    Lofa Tatupu is the unquestioned leader of the Seahawks defense. Is that fair? I mean, he’s not the person with the most experience, right? No, he’s the leader for other, more important reasons.

    I’m a liberal Democrat, but this election is a tough one. Do I vote my pocketbook, or do I vote for Obama, who I think would end the Iraq war quicker, and be less likely to get us involved in a new war.

    Tough call.

  89. 100

    My Left Foot spews:

    Puddy, we can’t attack Palin because she is a woman? Balderdash!! Equal rights under the law for everyone. She is fair game, she has plenty of targets to take out, she wants to play with the big boys then she better bring her “A” game. Biden is going to, politely, tear her a new one during that debate. She might want to bring kleenex for her tears and wear water proof makeup. She is gonna feel like one of those moose that she likes to eat.

  90. 101

    Bill Cruchon spews:

    And don’t forget when you’re blathering about McCain having one foot in the grave that robust, 47-year old Obama was scared to death to debate 72-year old McCain when he challenged him to town hall meetings.

    I just have to sit and laugh at you people.

  91. 102

    Steve spews:

    @91 Your continuing state of denial gets the best of you again. The problem with Dick’s five deferments is that he is a war monger who chose not to serve himself. Glad to help you out here, Puddy.

  92. 103

    gottago60 spews:

    Yo — 96.

    Nice try, but you miss the mark. Badly. Unemployment – well card checks are not going to save jobs in the usa. If joe lunchbox is delusional enough to think the jobs aren’t drying up in manufacturing, think again. The future for many workers will require them to utter those famous words, “would you like fries with that?”

    Around the world — what does that have to do with anything? Career as a communicator — he was a law school professor. The reason lawyers, even smart lawyers, go into academia is because they want to coast — nothing wrong with that but they just don’t want to work. Even Michelle decided to get out private practice at Sidley and become what — Dean of Students? What does working at a University have to do with the real world. NOTHING!

    Foreclosures — hmmmm, two-fold: unrestrained greed on the part of lenders and unrestrained greed on the part of American borrowers. Basically it came down to wilful suspension of reality. That’s not a Republican issue — that falls under the 7 deadly sins – greed, sloth and envy – in our “have it now” world.

    Gas prices –hmm–pretty much supply and demand. Healthcare cost — yep, it’s a bitch, but when was healthcare ever a “right?” People get sick and they die. It’s a pretty universal thing—not a republican issue.

    Your pollyanna view of what “real change” Obama could bring is laughable. We don’t need two senators teaming up to promote more gridlock — we need people who are willing to put the country first. McCain and Palin –rock on.

  93. 104

    Jane Balough's Dog Biden spews:

    Those are damn good odds for Palin. And damn bad odds for the US and the world if she is unprepared to lead our nation through our current turbulent times.

    I will take my chances with an inexperience Vice President before I would take my chances with an inexperinced President. All you lefties please please please keep on beating the “inexperience drum”. heheheheh

  94. 105

    ByeByeGOP spews:

    How many deferments did WHATADICK Cheney have? And how many times did the traitor and coward McSame sell out his fellow troops in Nam? 30 – that we know of.

  95. 106

    ByeByeGOP spews:

    McSame said the VP only had two jobs – inquire as to the health of the President and attend state funerals. I suppose these are the only duties he’ll allow the ex Alaskan mayor so I suppose she doesn’t need much experience. I hear she gives good head tho!

  96. 107

    Jane Balough's Dog Biden spews:

    Biden is a draft dodger and Obama is a chicken shit who hate the military. Nuff said.

  97. 108

    Jane Balough's Dog Biden spews:

    Biden is a draft dodger and Obama is a chicken shit who hates the military. Nuff said.

  98. 109



    Do you believe Darcy Burner’s brother is selling out humanity by participating in the illegal and immoral Iraq war?

  99. 110

    gottago60 spews:

    Hey Byebye — I was going to respond to 106, but having read some of the other garbage you put out, you aren’t worth it.

  100. 112

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @68 The entire country should be shitting over this pick. McCain was irresponsible to put such an inexperienced person on his ticket. But then, Party Boy has never been very responsible, has he?

  101. 113

    Me Steve too, Seattlejew spews:

    Mea Culpa

    Although an Obmaite for several years,
    I had a high opinion of John McCain. I was wrong.

    No patriotic American oculd put a loose gun like Palin as VEEP. McC is either senile, a Manchurian candidate. or was never the person I thought him to be/


    I suspect and hope we will see some Reprican defections as a result of this . Colin Powell, Dick Luger????

  102. 114

    Politically Incorrect spews:

    You people are really a bunch of fucking arrogant assholes. Take the fucking moron, Roger Rabbit, and his comment at 4 – always trying to fucking denigrate Pierce County, Seattle is soooooo much better than anything else in the fucking Universe.

    Don’t you people realize the rest of the state (and the other folks of the Northwest) hates your fucking guts?

  103. 115

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    GOP accusations that Obama is an “elitist” are hysterical laughable. He was raised by a single mom and had to claw his way up in a world that doesn’t give blacks an even break. He got where he is by hustle and smarts.

    McCain, by contrast, is the very personification of “elitist.” Born into a family of 4-star admirals, he had the skids greased for him every step of the way. The Navy tolerated him because of who he was, not what he did. A slacker, boozer, and playboy, he never would have amounted to a hill of beans without his family’s name and his wife’s wealth. If he’d been an average joe, he couldn’t have gotten hired at a car wash with his resume.

    Of course, Republicans are elitists by definition and nature. Special privileges for the rich and powerful is what they’re all about. It has nothing to do with competence. They don’t care if they wreck the country for the rest of us. They’ll never have any worries.

    It’s hard to imagine anyone more out of touch with the average American family than John McCain. Fer chrissakes, the guy can’t even remember how many houses he owns! His wife is worth $100 million. He doesn’t know how to read a grocery receipt. He doesn’t have to.

    Why would any ordinary voter vote for this guy? Why any any person of average means vote for Republican elitists who have goofed off all their lives and never had to be competent at anything?

    If you vote Republican, you must hate yourself. If you vote Republican, you certainly hate our country.

  104. 116

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    McCain met Palin only once, very briefly, before picking her as his running mate. This is incredible, and evidences a profound contempt both for voters and our country. The truth is, McCain doesn’t give a shit if she’s capable of running a lunch menu. All he cares about is whether having her on the ticket will turn out the evangelical vote and maybe grab some women voters away from Obama. After Nov. 4, she’ll be superfluous, a mere decoration. Until McCain has a stroke or his ticker stops. Then she’ll be an unparalleled calamity for our country.

  105. 117

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Choosing Palin is like promoting a corporal to commander in chief. Germany tried that, and it didn’t work out so good for them.

  106. 118

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @114 You think the good citizens of Yelm wouldn’t laugh at you if you suggested their mayor should be vice president? You’d be lucky if they didn’t seek an involuntary commitment order against you.

  107. 121

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @106 The only state funeral he needs to worry about is his. And if he has one, he won’t be around to suffer the carnage his incompetent veep inflicts on the survivors.

  108. 124

    YLB spews:

    Little Rickie Dumbass @ 84

    What no mean-spirited remarks about Michelle Obama? We all know why you talk about her so much.

    You’re jackin’ yourself!

    Little Rickie Dumbass..

  109. 126

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @109 I think you’re selling out your country by not participating in the illegal and immoral war in Iraq.

    Vietnam wasn’t a moral war, but I volunteered anyway because others had to go. They were drafting fathers when I enlisted, and because I went someone else didn’t have to.

    I don’t know what Darcy’s brother’s personal views about Bush’s military adventure in Iraq are. It doesn’t matter. A lot of good men are over there, and by going he’s a good man, too.

    You see, Troll, only one person gets to make the war-or-peace decision, and for the rest of us, it’s all about carrying our share of the freight and being there for our buddies.

    So why are you here instead of there, you fucking slacker?

  110. 127



    Bad analogy. The Presidency isn’t about seniority, it’s about vision and being a leader. Lofa Tapoopoo is one of the newest members of the Seahawks, but he is defensive team captain.

    LBJ was a Congressman and Senator from 1937 to 1960. That’s a lot of experience, right? Yeah, and he’s also the same guy who said “All a nigger cares about is loose shoes, tight pussy, and a warm place to shit.”

    No, I disagree with Roger Rabbit. The person with the most experience shouldn’t automatically get the job. It’s about who’s vision you most agree with, regardless of age or experience.

  111. 128

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @110 Weak, very weak … you must be Wingnut Central’s newest hire. You’re supposed to make at least a pretense of copying the talking points, dummy!

  112. 129

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @113 “I suspect and hope we will see some Reprican defections as a result of this . Colin Powell, Dick Luger????”

    Now there’s an interesting point … why did McCain offer the veep spot to Palin instead of Powell or Lugar? Does he think she’s more qualified to be president than they are? If so, she will be president because the old boy himself is already in la-la-land.

    Unless voters slam the brakes on this nonsense.

  113. 130

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    I really have to question the judgment of a man who thinks a small-town mayor from Alaska is more qualified to be vice president that a former Army chief of staff.

    If he becomes president, what else will he fuck up?

    Short answer: Everything.

  114. 131

    busdrivermike spews:

    “I’m not sure what she brings to the ticket other than she’s a woman and a conservative. Well, she’s a better speaker than McCain,” – Faye Palin, Sarah Palin’s mother-in-law, laughing. Faye may vote for Obama.

  115. 133

    busdrivermike spews:

    It is as if the best of Monica Goodling and Ellen Craswell had combined into one dishonest, law enforcement hating, pot smoking, socialist leaning, feminazi.

    You cannot make a silk purse out of this sow’s ear.

    It is Christmas in August!


  116. 134

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @103 “Nice try, but you miss the mark. Badly. Unemployment – well card checks are not going to save jobs in the usa. If joe lunchbox is delusional enough to think the jobs aren’t drying up in manufacturing, think again. The future for many workers will require them to utter those famous words, ‘would you like fries with that?'”

    Unemployment is always higher under Republicans. That’s because Republicans don’t care about workers. In fact, they like high unemployment because it keeps wages down, and cheap labor is what Republicans want most.

    “Career as a communicator — he was a law school professor. The reason lawyers, even smart lawyers, go into academia is because they want to coast — nothing wrong with that but they just don’t want to work.”

    You’ve never within 100 miles of a law school, have you? It shows.

    “Foreclosures — hmmmm, two-fold: unrestrained greed on the part of lenders and unrestrained greed on the part of American borrowers. Basically it came down to wilful suspension of reality. That’s not a Republican issue — that falls under the 7 deadly sins – greed, sloth and envy – in our ‘have it now’ world.”

    Possibly Republican deregulation and the Republicans’ look-the-other-way attitude toward corporate dishonesty and abuse of consumers had something to do with it, too. This kind of shit doesn’t when Democrats run things. It only happens when Republicans run things.

    “Gas prices –hmm–pretty much supply and demand.”

    Opposing fuel efficiency standards, giving people tax credits to buy gas guzzlers, blocking alternative energy initiatives, and letting oil companies secretly write energy policy might have something to do with it, too.

    “Healthcare cost — yep, it’s a bitch, but when was healthcare ever a ‘right?’ People get sick and they die. It’s a pretty universal thing—not a republican issue.”

    Hmmm. It was Republicans who let health insurance companies gouge consumers, who refused to regulate them, and who passed legislation prohibiting American citizens and the U.S. government from buying drugs in competitive markets.

    “Your pollyanna view of what ‘real change’ Obama could bring is laughable.”

    He isn’t a selfish, greedy, thieving, corrupt Republican. That’s half the battle right there. Obama is smart enough to handle the other half, and he’ll have a Democratic Congress to help him. You can take that to the bank.

    “We don’t need two senators teaming up to promote more gridlock — we need people who are willing to put the country first. McCain and Palin –rock on.”

    Right … your idea is one senator and one small-town mayor promoting gridlock. Putting the country first? Surely you are joking. I believe you have misspelled the word “profits” and that sentence should read “putting private gain first.” Vote for McCain and Palin if you like — if they win, you’ll get what you deserve, you’ll deserve what you get, and you’ll get no sympathy from me.

    What you Republicans do best is shoot yourselves in the foot and then blame your careless handling of loaded guns on your mother.

    That’s right, I said “your mother.” I’ll bet your mother votes Democrat!

  117. 136

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Cripes, this crop of new trolls is incredibly lame! Not that we ever had any quality trolls around here, but this crowd is a new low.

  118. 137

    busdrivermike spews:

    I hope all you Republicans enjoy the first day of the GOP convention tomorrow…ooops…it has been delayed by a perfect storm of Irony and embarrassment.

    Hey, are McCain and Bush going to have cake together like last time a Category 5 hit Louisiana?

  119. 138

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @135 And that’s relevant to what? Working as a salesgirl at a fundie gun show held in a day care?

  120. 139

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @127 “It’s about who’s vision you most agree with, regardless of age or experience.”

    That’s the whole fucking problem with every Republican candidate and voter.

  121. 140

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Palin’s Wikipedia Entry Scrubbed

    Hmmm, here’s an interesting item I picked up from AOL news:

    “Who scrubbed Wikipedia’s entry for Sarah Palin just before nom announcement?

    “Friday’s edition of the NPR program All Things Considered included a piece by Yuki Noguchi on some suspicious whitewashing that went down in Sarah Palin’s Wikipedia entry just before she was revealed as the GOP’s candidate for vice-president. ‘… On Friday, 15 minutes before the rumor that John McCain had picked Palin as his running mate, a Wikipedia editor discovered 30 mostly favorable changes had been made to the Alaska governor’s profile.'”

    (Quoted under fair use.)

    Roger Rabbit Commentary: Looks like the busy little beavers in the GOP’s propaganda shop are hard at work — making sure the public doesn’t learn the truth about their ethically and intellectually challenged veep-nominee-in-waiting.

  122. 141


    You vile, disgusting pricks.

    How many abortions has Michelle had? Were they all the spawn of the Mochachino Marxist?


    How many abortions has Darcy Burner had?


    How many abortions has Katie Goldstein had?


  123. 142

    busdrivermike spews:


    Troll at #127 explains why you have a made a bad analogy with a incredibly stupid analogy.

    Has anybody said Palin was one of the best Governors, or the best choice? I did read that some sport reporters believe Tatupu is one of the best linebackers in the NFL, and has been voted to at least one Pro Bowl.

  124. 143

    busdrivermike spews:

    Then, there is this:

    “On Saturday, a Democrat tasked with opposition research contacted the Huffington Post with this piece of information: as of this weekend, the McCain campaign had not gone through old newspaper articles from the Valley Frontiersman, Palin’s hometown newspaper.

    How does he know? The paper’s (massive) archives are not online. And when he went to research past content, he was told he was the first to inquire.”

    So, expect more fun little tidbits about Grandma Cheney from the biggest little city in Alaska. They may even have to put a stop sign in Wasilla to control traffic.

  125. 144

    busdrivermike spews:

    Hey #141:

    Q: How many abortions did Release the Records(“anonymous” no more) Mom have?

    A: Not enough of them.

    Lately, these trolls having been lobbing more softballs than Larry King.

  126. 145


    PROVE bitter Michelle had no abortions putting scissors through the skulls of mini-mochachino marxists.

    PROVE Darcy Burner no abortions putting scissors through the skulls of nasal whining brats.

    PROVE Katie Goldstein had no abortions putting scissors through the skull brats conceived during incest.



  127. 146

    ByeByeGOP spews:

    I understand that Palin’s kid has Down Syndrome because she was busy pulling trains while she gave birth. I also heard she had more than 20 abortions. @145 if you can’t DISPROVE this fact in the next five minutes, then you admit everything I just said.

    And as for children? Did your parents have any that lived?

    And bite yourself – you cum-drunk, cowardly, ass-licking, republican turd. And then go get your wife out of the car and tell her to stop giving head to the local bums.

    We can play this game all night fuckface.

  128. 148

    ByeByeGOP spews:

    We should use WAYBACK machine to look at the Palin Wikipedia entry to see what the jack-booted, Nazi-loving, asshole right wing turds took out of that bitch Palin’s bio.

  129. 149

    ByeByeGOP spews:

    @145 oops time’s up ass-lick. Too bad you must admit my claims. What a fucking loooooooser just like that coward McSame. I wonder what the relatives of dead Nam-era servicemen think of a coward who made 30 propaganda tapes for the enemy while their loved ones were in harm’s way?

  130. 151

    Jane Balough's Dog Biden spews:

    I hope all you Republicans enjoy the first day of the GOP convention

    I could care less, I know I will be enjoying McCain’s first day in office though. Same with Reichert, I like to watch Darcy cry. hehehehe

  131. 152

    Jane Balough's Dog Biden spews:

    What did the draft dodger say to the other draft dodger>

    “Hey Biden, it’s me Bill Clinton, remember me?”


  132. 153

    Puddybud spews:

    Pelletizer on Elitism@115 is the same as Pelletizer on the meaning of If. It’s called the Pelletizer Fictionary.

    Elitism is what you are doing now butthead. Obama is a $4MM income $1.6MM home elitist. And he tells everyone he understands the little man.

    What a hoot!

  133. 155

    anonymous spews:

    RE 150: Since Goldy has been sharing Katie, maybe you and/or the emu are the sire of the blob mass she aborted. I hear darcy has made Henry available for sweet pussy lips Katie Goldstein to practice her Monica-ing.

  134. 156

    Puddybud spews:

    Yeah Pelletizer, and nary a peep from National Progressive Radio over the scrubbing of Joe Biden’s Wikipedia entry.

  135. 157

    Puddybud spews:

    #155: You went too far bud! Picking on children is something the leftist ASSWipes here on HA choose to do on this blog. Even though the monkeys on Kos are making fun of Palin’s child you don’t do the same with Goldy’s.

    Even though some dense as spent uranium idiots picked on my children don’t copy the likes of bybygoober. He has no brain.

    I for one will call you out!

  136. 158

    My Left Foot spews:


    An elitist is someone who leaves his disfigured wife for an heiress and who does not know how many homes he owns worth, I am sure, 20 times what the home Obama owns that he bought with his own money, not the money from his heiress wife. Who, by the way, did not earn her money.

    Life was handed to this McSame character. Any you know it.

    Obama EARNED everything he has and took himself to the top with hard work. It damn sure was not because his daddy was an Admiral and his wife is an heiress.

    Who is the elitist, Puddy? Even you can figure this out.

  137. 159

    anonymous spews:

    157: The asswipes like to condemn with lies and innuendo. THEY think a 13 yr old is fair game because her parent is a public figure.

    goldstein is a public fiure. By not condeming the Kos cousins, but not reigning in his asswipes, he loses the right to feign outrage when it’s HIS kid. fuck him. Let him man up (if it’s possible) and speak out or he can take an equal measure of what his pals dish out.

    let them prove Katie Goldstein hasn’t aborted the product of incest. Let them prove she isn’t dick-licking daddy for dessert.

  138. 160

    K spews:

    Children, children, there’s barely a post worth reading for quite some time. Does this make some of you feel better?

  139. 161

    K spews:

    And Pud and Non, can I assume your righteous indignation also applies to the slurs McCain threw at Chelsea Clinton when she was a teen in the White House?

  140. 164

    Puddybud spews:

    K: I choose to deliver what I want when I want how I want.

    What about your missing righteous indignation on Palin’s child?

    Missing in action. And to think you are an IVY league graduate! Wasted education!

  141. 165

    Puddybud spews:

    Who said this: “Senator Obama’s remarks were elitist and out of touch. They are not reflective of the values and beliefs of Americans.”

    — Sen. Hillary Clinton.

  142. 166

    K spews:

    Hey Pud, note my comment @ 160 where I expresses my opinion of what was posted above. And then take a hike.

    Your education apparently left holes in your reading ability.

  143. 167

    K spews:

    And then shall we mine Bush, Romney and Huchabee’s comments about McCain?

    Cute but meaningless.

  144. 168

    Puddybud spews:

    I think it’s amazing and elitist that Obama wants to cap certain workers pay but he won’t cap the pay of his hollyweird friends.

    Pretty soon the middle class won’t be able to afford going to the movies.

  145. 169

    Puddybud spews:

    Oh yeah K, those are such strong words of rebuke. Wow they didn’t blow me away. I’m sure bybygoober feels stung.

    I guess you are taking a hike. My education has paid big time dividends. Just ask JSA.

    See ya!

  146. 170

    K spews:

    And your rebukes of the right wing slime machine? The condemnation of McCain’s comments about Chelsea? You truly are a beacon of propriety.

    And Pud, when did you gain the apparent respect for Senator Clinton? I recall some pretty vile posts.

  147. 172

    Puddybud spews:

    K: For the last time since you are stupid; I don’t answer your bidding. Do you remember the last time you got so worried over what I choose to condemn and let pass?

    Regarding my like or dislike of Hillary, I seem to remember how you libtards like to use right-wing sites when you want or quote Charles Krauthammer to make your useless points as needed and the vile names you all called him.

  148. 173

    K spews:

    Say what you will about Obama’s resume, he has been through a national campaign and had his background mined, and misrepresented. Elections were held and he won. Palin is a blank slate, with more than a few question marks. There are slime merchants on both sides, though none have achieved Rovian levels but the master himself. There will be digging, there will be some truths and some lies.

    My question is this, how can you Palin defenders now continue to claim the is qualified to be the single executive to lead this nation and continue to argue Darcy Burner is unqualified to be one of many in the House?

  149. 174

    Puddybud spews:

    MLF@171: Bybygoober hasn’t disproved he’s a pig fucking bull sodomizer and a pedophile. I also heard he likes filling up sheep.

  150. 175

    K spews:

    So why, Pud do you think I should answer your questions? You have quite the propensity to throw challenges and draw conclusions based on response or lack thereof.

    One point on your quote, and others, by the way, from Senator Clinton, is that use of criticism of one candidate of another during a contest does not carry much weight among thinking folks.

  151. 177

    YLB spews:

    I just have to sit and laugh at you people.

    LMAO @ you Bill Cruchon.

    Barack Obama doesn’t take orders from John Flip-flop McSame. Free advertising at the pleasure of a Republican? Are you insane?

    The debate will come at the appropriate time.

  152. 178

    Puddybud spews:

    Really K: I guess you forget what bybygoober has called me and how he has chosen to attack my wife, etc. So when you choose to attack that vile sub-human biomass…

    Also using Senator Clinton is my choice in a free country. Regarding thinking folks are you saying 22% of Hilary donkey who choose to not support Obama are not thinking folks?

    How elitist of you.

  153. 180

    K spews:

    Pud, you’ve got trouble reading tonight. For the last time, this evening anyway, use of what one opponent says about the other in the heat of competition has limited value.

    Just like much of what you post.

    And I do find much of what many post to be juvenile and offensive, and BBG does set a pretty low standard. I do not play that game, but I also do not feel compelled to call out each one. Those pots who call the kettles names do somewhat amuse me.

    And so, off to bed. Have fun in the mud.

  154. 182

    Puddybud spews:

    Wow K you choose to condemn when you are called out on it. When Post@155 appeared I chose to react accordingly. Count the minutes.

    Big Diff is what we call on my side of the tracks

  155. 183

    YLB spews:

    179 – *spit* I don’t take orders from you to imbibe right wing bullshit.

    I hope you don’t swim too long in that Kool-Aid vat Stupes. Come November – you might drown.

  156. 185

    Puddybud spews:

    More from the Donkey Controlled Left-Wing MSM

    “Only Hillary’s Uneducated Voters will Vote For Sarah Palin” – Andrea Mitchell NBC News

  157. 186

    anonymous spews:

    I could almost buy his explaination of eating a rocket pop while praying for Katie Goldstein’s swollen, chapped lips and red, raw knees if it wasn’t for Goldy’s inexplicable run to Rite-Aid for Desitin, roomier boxers and a softer throw rug.

    It really SUCKS training a pre-teen to be a wife-replacement.

    It’s fun being a liberal gratuitously spreading hateful innuendo about the children of public figures!

  158. 188

    Puddybud spews:

    “And so, you know, what she doesn’t know so far she will learn very quickly – she seems smart enough.” – Geraldine Ferraro on Sarah Palin on National Progressive Radio yesterday.

  159. 189

    YLB spews:

    It’s fun being a liberal gratuitously spreading hateful innuendo about the children of public figures!

    But people just couldn’t believe the news.

    “Really? No!” said Bethel state Rep. Mary Nelson, who is close to giving birth herself.

    “It’s wonderful. She’s very well-disguised,” said Senate President Lyda Green, a mother of three who has sometimes sparred with Palin politically. “When I was five months pregnant, there was absolutely no question that I was with child.”

    Uh… Sick right wing fuck? Lyda Green is a Republican…

  160. 191

    YLB spews:

    Hey Stupes,

    Why don’t you start a little circle jerk with the sick right wing fuck @ 185?

    He’s your type..

  161. 192

    YLB spews:

    Well, I’m sure Stupes and his buddy the sick right wing fuck have got their fingertips bleeding out another volley of worthless name-calling and other sick shit.

    I’m calling it a night…

  162. 193

    proud leftist spews:

    Wow, the trolls are out in force. I must say, I could not be more pleased with Sarah Palin as McCain’s choice to be second in command. My Alaska sources tell me there is a mother lode to mine regarding her. McCain didn’t vet her. Yet, he proclaims himself to be ready to lead. He ain’t ready, nor is Sarah. How the fuck did McCain fuck up so bad? It is remarkable that someone of his experience could make such a mistake. I join with all of you trolls to extol McCain’s VP choice.

  163. 194

    Puddybud spews:

    yelling loser boy is really ratcheting up his single brain cell.

    Three posts, nothing worthwhile! One post copied with no attribution. He’s up to his old tricks.

    S C A R Y and he’s a C H I C K E N because he can’t visit a site.

    Stay stupid. It SHOWS!

  164. 195

    proud leftist spews:

    You don’t think. Hate to say it, but you just buy the rightwing crap. La, la, la, Rush Blowhard and Puddy repeats. How an African-American can support the Republican Party, KKK, is beyond me. Grow up, Puddy.

  165. 196

    rhp6033 spews:

    Lot’s of rather justification going on in the Wingnut camp. I can smell it from here, and I’m 5,000 miles away.

    Look, I don’t have the slightest idea whether Palin would, or would not, manage to be a good President. Sometimes people surprise us.

    Lincoln was a terrible President in the management of the war, until he gave up trying to manage it when he put Grant in charge in the spring of 1864. But he was a great President in that he had the courage to push forward the Emancipation Proclamation, be steadfast in preserving the Union, and advising Grant &
    Sherman “let ‘em (the South) up easy”. Not bad for being essentially a self-taught lawyer from a small town.

    But two points: (1) in this day and age, we shouldn’t have to guess whether someone who is a hearbeat away from the Presidency can take the reins, and (2) with this nomination, the Republicans have sacrificed all right to question Obama’s “lack of qualifications”.

    The wingnut attempt to somehow say that Palin is more qualified than Obama is clearly so much bullshit. If Palin’s qualfied, then Obama is AT LEAST as qualified.

    And it doesn’t make a difference who’s at the top or bottom of the ticket.

    But more important to me, the Republicans have sqaundered any right to hold national office for the rest of my lifetime. It’s not just Bush & Co., it includes the entire party which went along with Bush & Co. until they recently decided that their terrible approval ratings made it inconvenient for them to do so. They have destroyed our national economy, squandered our national treasure, attempted to deliver our very retirements into the hands of their financial backers and told us to smile while they were doing it, and utterly left the U.S. with NO credibility abroad.

    Now they are trying to campaign on the basis of being “reform Republicans”. Reform what? I say, reform your own party, and then be on probation for the next quarter-century, until you can prove that the reform actually took hold. THEN perhaps we will consider whether you can compete in a national election.

  166. 197

    Don Joe spews:

    The choice of Sarah Palin as a running mate solidifies McCain’s reputation as a maverick. Only, as his voting record shows, he’s not the kind of maverick who marches to his own drummer. In terms of policy and philosophy, McCain is indistinguishable from the current President Bush.

    No, McCain is the kind of maverick who rolls the dice; who is willing to entertain a high-stakes gamble in the hopes of a potentially high reward no matter how unlikely he is to reap that reward.

    While it might be amusing, indeed even beneficial, to have a shot-from-the-hip gambler in the Senate where his is a voice equal to 99 others, this is not the kind of maverick we want in the White House.

  167. 198


    There are some news stories floating around out there that Obama is still close friends with, and still talking to Rev. Jeremiah Wright, and furthermore, sources say that Rev. Wright has been offered a cabinet position in an Obama administration, possibly Sec. of State, Defense Sec., or maybe even a nomination to the Supreme Court.

    I like Obama, but I don’t know how comfortable I feel with Rev. Jeremiah Wright as Secretary of Defense.

  168. 199

    Rujax! spews:

    She even LOOKS like all these right-wing bimbo airheads these troll-fuck klowns (that includes you…o mr. chicken who votes for col. sanders) beat off to.

  169. 200

    Rujax! spews:

    Theres some stories floating around that “Troll” was seen leering at large animals at the fair in monroe and was almost caught fucking a goat.

  170. 201

    Rujax! spews:

    maybe that qualifies “troll” for mcshames sec of hhs. thats how the rethuglicants work isnt it?

  171. 202



    As the comment section Senior Political Analyst and Moderator, or SPAM, I want to remind everyone to please stick to the issues. Commenting on a politician’s looks is how the intellectually lazy avoid having to discuss the issues. Goldy and I, while wanting to maintain everyone’s right to speak freely here, also wish for people to try to stick to the topic at hand and stick to the issues.

    Thank you

  172. 203

    ByeByeGOP spews:

    Hey Puddylicker, remember that time you cried like a 13-year-old girl and ran to Richard Pope and asked if you could sue someone for telling the truth about your big, fat, ugly, aids-infested wife? That was funny!

    And in answer to the ANONYMOUS right wing ass-lick, you already failed here bitch. You couldn’t disprove my post. You looooose.

    Now we also should be talking about the trains that SIN dee used to pull on the high school football team back in the day. I hear she was a real slut. And we KNOW Laura Bush killed a guy – because he wouldn’t fuck her no less!

  173. 205


    Marvin Stamn,

    Someone said that you and I hold the same political views. I want to see if this is true, so I have a homework assignment for you. I want you to take about the top 5 or 10 political issues and tell me where you stand on them.


    Abortion, Pro or Con? Environment. Immigration. Foreign Policy. Drugs. War & Peace. Free Trade. Energy & Oil. Etc.

    I do not want anything more than a one or two word answer for each. So no big, long explanations of your views. No paragraphs!

    Thank you.

  174. 206

    ByeByeGOP spews:

    About this cunt Palin…

    “McCain’s campaign seemed unaware that she supported a windfalls profits tax on oil companies and that she is more skeptical about human contributions to global warming than McCain is.

    They did not know that she took trips as the mayor of Wasilla to beg for earmarks.

    They did not know that she told a television interviewer this summer that she did not fully understand what it is that a vice president does.”

    From the Anchorage Daily News – what ELSE did McSame not know about Palin?

  175. 207

    ByeByeGOP spews:

    I about SPIT up laughing that the ass-lick Troll took it upon himself to appoint himself a moderator. Yeah – like THAT will ever happen. Good try Troll. Now go back to pretending to be a Democrat – while actually being a Palin-lovin, scum-sucking, cowardly republican.

  176. 208

    ByeByeGOP spews:

    Still more news stories floating around that Palin’s daughter was actually the mother of her latest child. Can’t the republicans find ONE – just ONE honest asshole to be VEEP?

  177. 209

    rhp6033 spews:

    Troll @ 198 provides yet another example of Rove’s strategy of continuing to slander opponants by repeating blatantly false allegations, in the hopes that at some point a few ignorant people will believe it. I wrote a post on this tactic last week. Troll seems to get a daily fax with his talking points for the week.

  178. 210

    Puddybud spews:

    proud leftist

    Ya don’t think huh, 22% of your party can’t support Barack Obama, a black man. Looks like the your party never left it’s founding roots:

    You know Birth of a Nation – KKK Movie
    You Know Eugenics – Remember the SCOTUS Justice
    You know Margaret Sanger – too many blacks around
    You Know Planned Parenthood – eradicate black babies through abortion

    Keep up the projection proud leftist. You are entering bybygooberland!

  179. 211

    Puddybud spews:

    bybygoober, if you look above, K is now n record, admitting you are distasteful. You keep ringing up the HA Donkey as ones who run away from your insane inane insipid commentary.

    Pelletizer is on record as loving your comments. Pelletizer called you a patriot. Shows the “powerful” company you keep. But with his oxygen starved mind he couldn’t determine the meaning of “IF”.

  180. 212

    Puddybud spews:

    bybygoober you run like the chicken you are. I show up and no bybygoober. I-Burn shows up and no bybygoober.

    Why is that? Why are you a chicken?

    I proved my point. At DL that night I asked the crowd where was bybygoober. It was unanimous, they’ve never met you. I’ve been there. I walked up to Goldy and personally introduced myself. You on the other hand are:

    MIA – Moron In Absence

  181. 213

    Puddybud spews:

    Libtards – I love how you say McCain is just like Bush

    Did you all forget Obama supports Cap and Trade?

    Of course you did. You’re Donkey with the memory span of 24 hours.

    Cap and Trade is the activity that made Enron famous.

  182. 214

    Puddybud spews:

    Yes, from above we see bybygoober@208 now drinking from the Daily Kurse man-juice well like yelling loser boy.

    He is one distasteful sub-human biomass.

  183. 215

    Puddybud spews:

    Did you know per John Kerry on George Steponallofus’s Sunday show Rush Limbaugh was the cause for Palin being selected.

    What a hoot!

  184. 216

    YLB spews:

    Stupes has a talent for sucking the oxygen out of the room with his moronic home-made talking points.


  185. 217

    Steve spews:

    @216 When they stray from approved talking points they display their gross stupidity. Stupes is a great example.

    “sucka” “wanna dance?”

    That still cracks me up, Pud. What a pathetic wretch you are.

  186. 218

    ByeByeGOP spews:

    Hey Puddylicker – when you failed to show up TWICE I rightly assumed you were the typical right wing baby-raping, coward. You know and I know the truth. There’s still time for us to meet at DL. All you have to do is agree to MY timeline and I’ll be there. You won’t – even with your backup. Oh and I’ll have my backup there too bitch.

    Now – one of the things I’d talk about if you ever did show up is how you ran under Pope’s skirt asking to sue because someone called your wife a name! WAAAAH.

    I see how your ilk solves problems. You run to the very people you attack on these threads for help.

    Must suck to be an Oreo, chickenshitm ass-lick! HE HE!

  187. 219

    Rick D. spews:

    RHP~ looks like you’ll find out really quick who the #2 in Japan is with #1 quitting his post. Weird coincidence since you were just saying yesterday that you didn’t know who was #2 in line to the PM. Have fun in Roppangi, I know I did.

    ByeByeGOP/Friend of All Facts ~ you fucking coward…you post under one name here at pre-pubescent radio voice David Gold Stains school for illiterate children and then another at Sharkansky’s Sound Politics. What are you afraid of cuntboy?

    McCain/Palin is your destiny…deal with it kiddies. The empty suit and his hoodrat wife will be back in Chicago in no time. Biden can get shitfaced every night like he used to and Hillary can rest easy knowing 2012 is still doable for that aging trollop.

  188. 220

    Puddybud spews:

    bybygoober you are such a liar. How can I fail to show up when I was at DL and met with over 20 witnesses?

    Wow you make liberals proud to know you are on their side.

    Such a moron. Go back to your test tube.

  189. 222

    Puddybud spews:

    Looks like Kurse is wrong. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26496189/

    See yelling loser boy I can use any site. I am not S C A R E D.

    Palin’s daughter is pregnant now. So how could she have been pregnant 4.5 months ago?

    Another leftist pinhead rumor dead.

    “”The despicable rumors that have been spread by liberal blogs, some even with Barack Obama’s name in them, is a real anchor around the Democratic ticket, pulling them down in the mud in a way that certainly juxtaposes themselves against their ‘campaign of change,”‘ a senior aide said.”

  190. 223

    Rick D. spews:

    @ 220 ~ Bye Bye groper was the one cowering in the corner hoping you wouldn’t show up. He’s a cuntboy afterall.

  191. 224

    Rujax! spews:

    I’m gonna ask this again:

    What possesses a supposedly veteran politician and national figure, the presumptive Presidential nominee of one of this Nations two major political parties to choose an inexperienced white-trash bimbo for the second most powerful posiition in the United States Government.

  192. 225

    Rick D. spews:

    Compare and contrast the following two videos

    One is a smarmy asshat of a sot from Deleware that has been in D.C. since 1972….Hope? Change? Hardly. The boy king Barack’s training wheels:
    Joe Yeltsin….err Biden

    and finally, a political reformer from the state of Alaska with 10 times the executive experience of the chicago signature gatherer, Sarah Palin

    The question independents have to ask themselves is do you want real change in Washington or not? A relic that has been around the beltway since sarah Palin was 8 years old and needs to get shitfaced with alcohol before introducing his running mate or a real reformer that has actually made executive decisions in her life?

    The choice is clear my friends, even for Libtards like yourselves.

  193. 226

    Rujax! spews:

    What a pandering sop to the virulent right wing christianists that have ruined the Republican Party and want to take the rest of us down with them.

  194. 227

    Rujax! spews:

    Looks like the “Beverly Hillbillies” all over again…THAT willl be a great photoshop.

  195. 230

    ByeByeGOP spews:

    So AGAIN for those following – there’s this dick-licking oreo we know as Puddylicker. He also posts as Rick Dumbass. Anyway, he says I said I’d show up at DL to meet him. Of course, he can’t provide a link that verifies this because he’s just a lying cunt.

    What do you expect? He’s a republican. And like all dicklicking republicans, he’s a coward. Nuff said.

    Show us a link Puffylips – all you have to do is show us the link. You always brag you back up your posts with links so where is it bitch? Post it or admit you’re a lying cunt. Your choice.

  196. 231

    Rick D. spews:

    Rujax~ how about condensing all that bullshit you shovel into one line instead of 4? Goldy will be eternally gratefull.

    The boy king and his hoodrat wife will be back in the cesspools of Chicago come November 5th. Deal with it bitch.

    How come I feel like some cum burping gutter slut is going to post @ 229? weird!

  197. 232

    Rujax! spews:

    From AmericaBlog

    Monday, September 01, 2008
    Palin’s spokesman didn’t know about pregnancy two days ago
    John Aravosis (DC) · 9/01/2008 01:24:00 PM ET · Link
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    They claim the McCain campaign was informed last week.

    Senior McCain campaign officials said McCain knew of the daughter’s pregnancy when he selected Palin last week as his vice presidential running mate, deciding that it did not disqualify the 44-year-old governor in any way.

    But no one thought it relevant to tell Palin’s own spokesman. Uh huh. From TPM Election Central:
    The Daily News had asked Palin’s press secretary, Bill McAllister, over the weekend to address rumors that Bristol was pregnant.

    “I don’t know. I have no evidence that Bristol’s pregnant,” he said on Saturday.
    As Joe notes below, it’s all very Jerry Springer meets Desperate Housewives. Or should I say, Desperate Republicans.
    Labels: sarah palin

    This is just fucking insulting.

  198. 233

    Rujax! spews:

    It is an INSULT to the office of the President off the United States of Americe and the American CITIZENS that choose that President.

    Since when do we not want to choose the “Best and Brightest” for the office…

    OH YEAH…

    Since you RAT-FUCKERS jammed C+ Augustus down out throats.

    Nice job shitheads.

  199. 234

    Rujax! spews:

    It’s NOT going to hhappen again.

    You all fucked this one up BIG TIME!

    Thank you so very very much.

  200. 235

    Rick D. spews:

    Sarah Palin is 10 times more qualified than the Chi-town assclown. Libtards are just upset that it was a great pick by McCain.

    Keep your pacifiers handy libtards, you’re going to need them when McCain/Palin is elected in November.

  201. 236

    YLB spews:

    Waaaaaaaaaaa haaaa hhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

    Stupes, you belong to a party of loooooooserrs!

    Where was the mother?

    Where was the father?

    Did they advise their child to ABSTAIN? HOW’D THAT WORK OUT????


    Scared? I just stay away from right wing bullshit like any sane person would stay away from shootin’ junk in their veins…

    You’re such a fucking loser!!!

  202. 237

    ByeByeGOP spews:

    When I fuck Puddylicker/AKA Rick D’s fat, ugly wife in the ass – I wear a blindfold.

    Unfortunately I forgot ear plugs and she told me the story about Puddy/AKA Rick fucking the family pig! AFTER HE TOOK VIAGRA!

  203. 239

    Rujax! spews:

    So dig this…

    McCain realizes how fucked up the rethuglicants are (esp. the Dobsonists and the rest of the christianist jihadi nutjobs) and he’s DELIBERATELY TANKING THE ELECTION to pay them back for the shit they pulled on him in 2000.

    Far-fetched, but fun to think about, eh?

  204. 240


    What is it with you guys? You support Darcy Burner who has little experience, especially in Public Office, and you scream and yell when someone mentions that Obama may not have enough experience. The Republicans have Palin and you act like asses…The reality is that you can’t have a fair and logical conversation on the candidates because you are so caught up in party politics. I think Washington DC could you a fresh perspective and Palin may be the one to offer it. You are all about mud slinging and nothing more. You really do amuse me.

  205. 241

    YLB spews:

    239 – Burner won’t be anywhere close to one heartbeat away from the highest office in the land. Palin will.

    Obama wisely chose someone who could easily fill his shoes if something bad happened to him and given the history of what’s happened to black leaders in this country the decision looks even better.

  206. 242

    Rick D. spews:

    @ 236 ~ BibiGroper/ aka “friend of all facts”on SP board

    Hey cuntboy, what’s with the two names bitch? Are you too cowardly to post with your bibigroper tag?

    I’d fuck your wife in the ass if you were straight, but we both know that isn’t the case. Therefore, enjoy the bathouse time with your boyfriend/catcher YLB…..You two deserve each other.

    A filthy drunk like Biden is Obama the empty suit’s training wheels……..you fucking gotta be kidding me.

    Cokehead/Drunk ’08…the Dem ticket

  207. 243

    Particle Man spews:

    Pro Life, anti sex ed, pro creation in schools……
    First he hear she was informed of her pregnancy involving downs syndrome early on but she chose to have the baby.
    Now we learn that her 17 year old daughter is preggers.
    So how is that abstinence over birth control working for Palin?

  208. 244

    Woman_Scorned spews:

    Hell have no wrath like a woman scorned. Hillary was much better then the inadequate black man.

    Now Palin ain’t no Hillary, but one hell of a lot better than the inadequate black male.

    This lifelong liberal womam is disgusted with the misogyny of the current leaders of the party.

    I can live with Palin until Hillary runs again in 2012.

  209. 245

    Steve spews:

    @241 Geez, Puddy, seeking refuge here as Ricky? I take it you couldn’t take the heat on the other thread. I can hardly blame you for being so upset, though, seeing as how you just got your ass handed to you over there – Republican horsefuckers flocking from Wyoming to Enumclaw. It must suck, huh? Be a sport and tell us about it.

  210. 247

    Woman_Scorned spews:


    Honey, you are a vulgar little boy not worth the company of a good woman. I guess it is a good thing you prefer sleeping with men.

  211. 248

    Steve spews:

    @246 Shit, Puddy, is this your way of hitting on me? Strange. But no thanks, I’m straight and I have someone special already.

    Hey, I have an idea, Pudnuts. You could do a thing here where one of your screen names hits on another one of your screen names. Then you could hook up with yourself. As usual, I suppose.

  212. 249

    Experienced_BO spews:

    Obama does have more experience than Palin:

    Experience befriending domestics terrorists whose organization bombed the capitol.

    Experience getting shady deals on real estate from a convicted slum lord.

    Experience sitting for 20 years listening to a black racist pastor preach “God Damn America” and “USA of KKK A”

    Experience belitting small town America as a bunch of rubes “bitterly clinging to their guns and their bibles”

    Experience promoting the vote fraud group ACORN, the very group found guilty of the largest incident of vote fruad in Washington State History.

    Yeah, BO has experience alright.

  213. 250

    Wally spews:

    Never been here before, but enjoy flame wars when they are witty or humorous. Roger Rabbit and ByebyeGOP are the same guy and not even funny or witty just repetitive a__holes who are incredibly angry.

    Please allow me to help penetrate your dim, milk like perception.

    Conservatives do not like or trust McCain. The old Reagan coalition does not respond to Old Tippecanoe, but with John Tyler on the tixcket now, it seems like a great joke to play on the establishment. With Palin as president a world of opportunities suddenly opens up. That is why all the wing nuts will turn out to vote for her (not Old Tippecanoe).

    Try and understand, it’s not about her, she is a genuine outsider.

    As Clauswitz wrote, “Professionals are predictable, but the world is full of amateurs.”

    Guess the Trotskyite revolution will have to wait a while longer.

  214. 251

    michael spews:


    R. Rabbit and byebye are different folks. Byebye’s cracked.

    Considering how long it’s been since McCain led in the polls and how steady the polls have been, I doubt we’ll be seeing a president with an R next to their name this time around.

  215. 252

    Wally spews:

    WE don’t need anymore intellectuals. I’d rather have a vain monkey, who could give the Reds a juicy answer, and wouldn’t run away when they start swinging table legs, than a dozen learned college professors!

  216. 253

    Wally spews:

    Pro Gun, Pro Life, Working Class, son in the military, anti corruption, smaller government and less taxes. The only constituent group she doesn’t appeal to directly is the Southern Heritage movement, but there is plenty of overlap.

    Oh,yeah, and she’s a Christian.

    All bets are off now, Obama is going down!

    “Tippecanoe and Tyler too!”

  217. 254

    Steve spews:

    @251 Shit, Pudzoid, we already went down the vain monkey route. It’s not working out so hot. I think I’ll vote for the guy who knows the constitution forwards and backwards. It seems likely that it’s more than “just a goddamned piece of paper” to him.

  218. 255

    Steve spews:

    @252 “Southern Heritage”

    I tell ya, Pud, for a black guy, you’re one strange motherfucker.

  219. 256

    Wally spews:

    How right you are. The Constitution has been just a piece of paper since 1865.

    “The Union as it was, the Constitution as it is.”

    And even nationalists would vote for Obama if they really thought he would end the wars, and not involve us in any new ones.

  220. 258

    Steve spews:

    @256 LMFAO and spit on my keyboard! That’d be my nomination for post of the day.

  221. 259

    Wally spews:

    “And who knows what rough beast, its hour come round at last, slouches towards Bethlehem to be born.”

    “It is a wicked and unrighteous generation that seeketh after a sign, but the only sign they shall receive is the sign of Jonah.”

  222. 260

    Steve spews:

    @258 “sign of Jonah”

    You mean the smiley face Hitler on the cover of his book? Indeed, that was wicked and unrighteous unto itself, alright.

  223. 261

    Me Steve too, Seattlejew spews:


    McCain’s bizarre choice of Palin is going to tear apart his campaign because it estabishes an amazing level of irresponsibility. Appointing Palin is akin appoinitng Clarence Thomas, Alberto, etc.

    So. Since SJ believes there are patriotic, good red wearing Republicans, I am watching for this:

    1. Outrage over Palin from Hillary, NARAL, Sierra Club, etc. I know these foks were already supporting BHO, but McC just gave them red meat.

    2. Criticism of Palin for her neglect of her own family, including her decision to have unprotected sex KNOWING she had a high probability of producing a Down’s child.

    3. Further lack of support for JMcC from Wall street. Perhpas open support for Obama from Buffett, Pickens, et al.

    4. Out and out endorsement of BHO by Hagel, Luger, and Powell.

  224. 262

    ByeByeGOP spews:

    McSame has plenty of experience to consider even tho Palin does not.

    Experience helping the enemy by making 30 propaganda tapes for the VC during the Nam war while our troops were in harms way.

    Experience screwing investors and the American taxpayers by his involvement with the Keating Five.

    Experience getting religious advice from John Hagee – a man who called the Catholic Church the “great whore.”

    Experience cheating on his disfigured wife with SINdee McSame.

    Experience sending birthday regards, and regrets for not attending his party, to Joseph “Joe Bananas” Bonano, the head of the New York Bonano crime family, who had retired to Arizona.

    Yeah, McSame has experience alright.

  225. 263


    I support the following thoughts by Jim Vaughn

    Obama: rock star image plays to his favor and could do a lot to calm the international waters. My biggest concern is the economy. What scares me is that we could potentially have a scenario on the national level that we have in Washington State. By that I mean a liberal president and a liberal congress where nothing gets fixed, no fiscal accountability and the solution is to tax us to death. On a positive note, the nomination of Senator Joe Biden is a big plus and for the first time I feel as though the Democratic Party is making an effort to listen to the moderate and conservative voters.
    McCain: On the positive side, I would like to see a Republican President if for no other reason than to keep the liberal Progressive Democrats in check. Now that Senator McCain has chosen Sarah Palin as his choice for VP, I believe he has hit a home run. Sarah has more experience than Obama and I find it extremely hypocritical when the Democrats criticize her experience only to support Darcie who lacks any experience other than being a professional candidate. Not a bad hobby, since Darcie can collect up to $165K per year (the amount she would make if elected) to be a professional looser.
    As a Blue Dog Democrat, I have seen the negative impact of partisan politics. The fact that Sarah has stood up to her party and is truly focused on representing the voters has earned my respect and the Republicans have the bases loaded with Dave Reichert, Dino Rossi and John McCain.
    Like many voters, I realize and feel the impact of government and want the best person to represent me.

  226. 264

    Rick D. spews:

    Cum swallower steve~

    I’m not puddy you inbred Horsesassfucker from Enumclaw. Perhaps you’re just too drunk like Biden to figure out the difference.

    Goldy’s stable of idiots keeps getting dumber and dumber with each post.

  227. 265

    Rujax! spews:

    $5 sez she don’t last till tomorra’ morning…

    Fuck…she just lawyered up over troopergate.

    C’mon you guys…even AGNEW got into office. What the fuck is WRONG with you all???

  228. 267

    Me Steve too, Seattlejew spews:

    251. Wally spews:

    WE don’t need anymore intellectuals. I’d rather have a vain monkey, who could give the Reds a juicy answer, and wouldn’t run away when they start swinging table legs, than a dozen learned college professors!

    Hay Wally ..

    err ahh, what Reds??? You mean the ones in China who built my notebook my TV, and soon my car?

    What do you think about Palin’s idea of dulsing a wall between us and the Ruskies?

  229. 268


    It would be awful if our President died and we were left with someone who wasn’t prepared for the job.

    Far worse would be to elect a President who wasn’t prepared for the job.

  230. 269

    rhp6033 spews:

    Okay, being in Japan, I asked who was in charge there, now that the Prime Minister of Japan had resigned.

    I was surprised that nobody could answer that question. The answer appears to be: no one.

    In Japan, important decisions are made by consensus among quite a few people. Even if the Prime Minister remained in office, he couldn’t make any important decisions except in consultation with, and the agreement of, most of his cabinet and party members, along with any other parties who were part of his governing coalition.

    As a result, they feel that there’s no problem which might arise that can’t be put off for a few weeks until after they select a new prime minister, or form a new government, or even hold parlimentary elections.

    Of course, Japan has no nuclear arsenal itself, enjoys the security of America’s “nuclear umbrella”, and has very limited foreign committments (other than trade). The U.S. doesn’t have that priviledge.

  231. 270

    Don Joe spews:

    @ 267

    Far worse would be to elect a President who wasn’t prepared for the job.

    Yet another reason not to vote for John McCain.