Times misrepresents Harvard dean’s words

After interviewing former Harvard Dean Harry Lewis, here is what reporter Emily Heffter chose to print in the Seattle Times:

Harry Lewis, a Harvard computer science professor and former dean of the school, confirmed that Burner did study economics at Harvard.

“She doesn’t have a degree in economics,” he said. “It’s a specialty within the computer science degree that she has.”

And here is Dean Lewis in his own unexpurgated words (the emphasis is mine):

I’m the professor and ex-dean who was quoted in the story, and as it happens, also the guy who wrote the CS degree requirements. At the time Darcy was at Harvard, she would have needed, as part of her CS degree requirements, several courses in a technical specialization area related to CS. She fulfilled that CS degree requirement by specializing in Economics (which meant, by the way, that she couldn’t have taken just the easy, non-mathematical Ec courses). So it’s not exactly a minor (which we didn’t have then, though we do now), and it’s also not anything that the registrar would be able to certify (because it’s an internal requirement of the computer science faculty). But it’s something everyone getting a degree in CS had to do (though other students would have other specialties). The way Darcy is describing herself is accurate.

And here is Dean Lewis’ account of his interview with Heffter:

Talked to her and told her you had a degree in CS with a specialization in Ec. She said you were claiming to have a degree in Ec and I just repeated myself. She asked me what that consisted of and I said a block of Ec courses. She started to ask me if that would make you qualified … and I cut her off, saying I couldn’t judge economics qualifications. She thanked me and said that was helpful.

Darcy Burner does indeed have a degree from Harvard in computer science and economics, and it is utterly outrageous that the Times would choose to turn the NRCC’s parsing of the word “and” into a front page gotcha story defaming Darcy’s character.

They owe her an apology.

Comments

  1. 3

    spews:

    Goldy says Burner has “a degree from Harvard in computer science and engineering.”

    I’ll believe it when I see it.

    I want to see a copy of her transcript posted on HA. And if it says her degree is in “computer science and economics,” worded exactly like that, I will never comment here again.

  2. 4

    Luigi Giovanni spews:

    David, the fact is Burner misrepresented her degree, and that’s the point of the story. View the video.

    Lewis is unconvincing to an objective, disinterested observer.

  3. 7

    Zak spews:

    BRUNER LIED

    BAD BAD BRUNER

    HER NON ELECTION IS NOW SEALED

    GOLDY IS ALL FLUMOXXED, SHE HAS A LOOSE TONGUE AS THEY SAY

    SHE LIED ABOUT HER JOB AT MICROSOFT AS WELL … DARCH HAS NO POLITICAL FUTURE IN THE AREA

  4. 8

    Mr. Cynical spews:

    Goldy spews:

    Darcy Burner does indeed have a degree from Harvard in computer science and engineering.

    HAR! HAR! HAR! HAR! HAR! HAR! HAR! HAR! HAR! HAR! HAR! HAR! HAR! HAR! HAR! HAR! HAR! HAR! HAR! HAR! HAR! HAR! HAR! HAR! HAR! HAR! HAR! HAR! HAR! HAR! HAR! HAR! HAR! HAR! HAR! HAR!

    The lie now gets even bigger!
    It’s hardly a “typo” as YLB says.
    It’s yet another sordid attempt to defraud voters about her qualifications!!

  5. 11

    Mr. Cynical spews:

    Goldy–
    As you’ve always said, words mean things!
    You might want to share that with Darcy Burner, the Serial Liar.

    Burner should come clean to the public about all her lies!!

  6. 14

    spews:

    Goldy lies again.

    In fact, Darcy said she had a degree “in economics.” Full stop.

    In fact, she does not.

    In fact, the Harvard professor SAYS she does not.

    In fact, Darcy lied.

    In fact, Goldy lies.

  7. 15

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    An increasingly desperate John McSame, throwing literally everything at the wall hoping something will stick, accused Obama of “saying anything to win.” Um, that would be you, Jack!

  8. 16

    Marvin Troll spews:

    McCain was asked the boxers or briefs question that was famously asked of Clinton. His response: “Depends.”

  9. 17

    Mr. Cynical spews:

    Goldy is too busy trying to plot a way to “comfort” Darcy as he is clearly a stalker, than to listen to you YLB!

    Besides Goldy obviously wants Burner’s fantasy ENGINEERING DEGREE (Goldy’s words!) to get out there to further mislead the public about her woeful qualifications.

    Perhaps Goldy is throwing this ENGINEERING Degree out there so Darcy will require some more of his “comforting”.

    Goldy—
    You’d do anything to get laid!

  10. 19

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @14 Which part of “The way Darcy is describing herself is accurate” don’t you understand?

  11. 20

    BeerNotWar spews:

    Burner said she has “a degree in computer science and economics.” Grammar clearly not being the long suit of conservatives, this means she has ONE degree in BOTH subjects. IF she had said “I have degreeS in computer science and economics” that would be claiming she has a degree in economics, along with one on in CS.

  12. 21

    Marvin Troll spews:

    3

    Say is ain’t so Troll: There ya go teasing us again Troll. Man you are a piece of work. What kind of person would come here each day posting nonsense and demands and being told off and then return the next day for more of the same?

  13. 22

    spews:

    Of course, I meant to write “computer science and economics” not “engineering.” In case folks haven’t noticed, I often suffer from a strange fit of typing aphasia, exacerbated by utter lack of ability to proof read my own prose.

  14. 23

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @3 “I want to see a copy of her transcript posted on HA. And if it says her degree is in ‘computer science and economics,’ worded exactly like that, I will never comment here again.”

    Sorry, Troll. You’re entitled to your worthless opinions, but you’re not entitled to your own facts or definitions. The dean’s statement is definitive and ends the debate. Give it up; you and the Seattle Times have lost the argument. Now move along; there’s no “scandal” to see here. Your fat butt is holding up traffic.

  15. 24

    Marvin Troll spews:

    Hey Pudge, way to use a flag as a backdrop. You must be a “Real” patriot. But wait: FULL STOP! To support the Republicans after they have sabotaged the country for the past eight years including incessant attacks on the constitution and Americans civil liberties, and committing war crimes, to support the Republicans must be considered an act of treason. Why do you hate America Pudge?

  16. 26

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @5 Where does it say “engineering”? Show me. Look again, where does it say that? Are you smoking banana peels?

  17. 29

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    This whole thread illustrates how petty and trivial the wingnuts have become in their desperation to find a life raft to cling to.

  18. 31

    Michael spews:

    It looks like Don Young (R-bridge to no where) might be toast come Nov. 4. Berkowitz has been on top for the last 5 months.

  19. 33

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @21 “What kind of person would come here each day posting nonsense and demands and being told off and then return the next day for more of the same?”

    A paid troll, obviously. My guess is Kevin Carns posts 90% of the troll comments on HA. His screen names are legion and ever-changing. He’s not worth the $90K a year that BIAW pays him, but he has to pretend to justify it. Oh well, BIAW doesn’t mind throwing money around, after all it’s taxpayer money.

  20. 34

    Mr. Cynical spews:

    26. Roger Rabbit spews:

    @5 Where does it say “engineering”? Show me. Look again, where does it say that? Are you smoking banana peels?

    Gee Rog…I guess YLB was smokin’ too, huh?

    2. YLB spews:
    Darcy Burner does indeed have a degree from Harvard in computer science and engineering

    Typo?

    22. Goldy spews:

    Of course, I meant to write “computer science and economics” not “engineering.”

  21. 35

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    The Only Thing You Need To Know About This Election

    Based on what many people have said to journalists and pollsters, it seems likely that Nov. 4 will be a referendum on the GOP’s stewardship of their jobs, savings, retirement, and financial future.

    At this moment the Dow is down over 175 points, and is moving clsoer to testing the 8,000 level. October 2008 continues to be the worst month for the stock market in decades.

    401(k) statements come out at the end of the month. This means many voters will receive their October statements on Nov. 3 … the day before the election.

  22. 36

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @34 At least he doesn’t see communists hiding under his bed or black helicopters hovering over his roof.

    Go ahead, Cynical. Milk that typo for all she’s worth! It’s all you’ve got left.

  23. 37

    ArtFart spews:

    Kinda interesting that even as OPEC mulls cutting production, somehow the average price of gas nationwide has fallen below three bucks a gallon.

    This is happening at the same time the oil industry would be expecting to retune refineries to maximize diesel production for the winter heating season.

    It would appear that the administration’s good buddies are doing what they can to help make something look better runnning up to the election.

  24. 38

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    This Guy Used To Be Fed Chief?!!

    In today’s news, Alan Greenspan told the House Oversight Committee that he was “shocked” to discover that unregulated financial institutions operating in their self-interest failed to regulate themselves.

    “Greenspan said he had made a ‘mistake’ in believing that banks in operating in their self-interest would be sufficient to protect their shareholders and the equity in their institutions. Greenspan called this ‘a flaw in the model that I perceived is the critical functioning structure that defines how the world works.’ … Greenspan said in his testimony to the committee that he and others who believed lending institutions would do a good job of protecting their shareholders are in a ‘state of shocked disbelief.’”

    (Quoted from AP under fair use.)

    Roger Rabbit Commentary: Whether or not Greenspan’s “shock” and “disbelief” at the failure of the self-regulation model is plausible, the least we should do is stop voting for politicians who still peddle that discredited tomfoolery. You know who I mean.

  25. 40

    Mr. Cynical spews:

    36. Roger Rabbit spews:

    Go ahead, Cynical. Milk that typo for all she’s worth! It’s all you’ve got left

    Now don’t you start goin’ all serious on me Rog. Darcy is a SERIAL LIAR. That means she has lied REPEATEDLY.

  26. 41

    YLB spews:

    Pudge must be one of those “real americans” Palin talks about.

    I bet he believes George Washington chopped down a cherry tree and refused to lie about it.

  27. 42

    Mr. Cynical spews:

    35. Roger Rabbit spews:

    At this moment the Dow is down over 175 points, and is moving clsoer to testing the 8,000 level. October 2008 continues to be the worst month for the stock market in decades.

    401(k) statements come out at the end of the month. This means many voters will receive their October statements on Nov. 3 … the day before the election.

    Precisely at the time Rog is bitching about the end of the world…SMART & SAVVY Investors are buying!!

    Disclaimer: I promised I will not discuss MY specific personal investments!

  28. 43

    YLB spews:

    The victory of Clinton back in 92 produced strange waves of fear. We saw the rise of militia movements and heard strange tales of black helicopters and the Clinton “death squads”. It was totally weird.

    History doesn’t often repeat but it usually rhymes. This time we’ll definitely see something different. At first the right will grasping at straws to express it. After all the defeat will stunning – strong landslides in the electoral college and a solid majority in the popular vote.

    The loathing can’t be too overtly racist because that will only sink them further although surely that undercurrent will be there. So I predict a coupling of branding Obama as a “radical socialist” with some kind of quasi racist attack on Michelle Obama. As Obama consolidates his adminstration and his coalition in the Congress, I think we’ll see racist associations of Obama with truly dodgy characters like Robert Mugabe. We’re all too familiar with this already here in Seattle with the writing of the lunatic Minnow over Ron Sims.

    It’s going to be interesting and we have to be ready to attack it when it rears its ugly head.

  29. 44

    spews:

    Marvin Troll:

    Hey Pudge, way to use a flag as a backdrop.

    Thank you.

    You must be a “Real” patriot.

    I don’t know how a flag could lead you to that conclusion. That’s quite illogical.

    But wait: FULL STOP! To support the Republicans after they have sabotaged the country for the past eight years including incessant attacks on the constitution and Americans civil liberties, and committing war crimes, to support the Republicans must be considered an act of treason.

    Also illogical. First, of course, it’s the question-begging fallacy, since you cannot prove any war crimes at all, let alone on behalf of Republicans in particular.

    And on the matter of incessant atrtacks on the Constitution and civil liberties, certainly there are far more coming from Democrats than Republicans: attacks on the Second Amendment, Tenth Amendment, Ninth Amendment, Fifth Amendment, Fourteenth Amendment.

    You have a candidate for President who favors Supreme Court justices who write books explaining why they ignore the Constitution (that would be Justice Breyer’s book “Active Liberty”).

    Why do you hate America Pudge?

    Why do you hate logic and reason?

    YLB: I bet you believe Obama isn’t going to raise taxes on anyone making less than $250K.

  30. 45

    John spews:

    Darcy Burner does indeed have a degree from Harvard in computer science and economics

    —————–

    You’re being a dope, Goldy. In the debates Burner claimed to have an a degree in economics. Not a CS degree, not a CS and econ degree, but a degree in economics. This was a deliberation distortion because the audience had an acute focus on the economy, and the econ credential would make a better presentation. What the audience wasn’t told was the “econ degree” consisted of 5 classes – this is not what people have in mind when they hear the word “degree.” If it is then I imagine a lot of people would have much more impressive resumes.

    Get real and stop spinning.

  31. 46

    YLB spews:

    Pudge: I believe that Obama’s policies will greatly benefit the middle class like Bill Clinton’s policies did if not more so. I also believe the rich will get richer under Obama’s policies just like they did under Clinton’s despite paying more or less the same taxes they paid under Clinton.

    I also believe the right wing will whine about class warfare and predict economic disaster and then be wrong again like they were when Clinton passed his economic plan.

  32. 48

    mark spews:

    having a degree from The Evergreen State College (very much like *ahem* Harvard), I’m familiar with the issue of explaining a degree that lies outside the bounds of a conventional higher ed factory
    “What Burner did is the Harvard equivalent of doing a joint degree in computer science and economics, though it’s not technically called that and the process (which would involve taking an adequate number of economics courses and then writing a thesis that bridges both subjects) is probably somewhat different from what you might find elsewhere. That she chose not to give a tediously detailed description of the academic procedures of her undergraduate institution is just common sense.”
    http://www.openleft.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=9327

  33. 49

    Freedom 55 spews:

    I’m so tired of the Seattle Times and their radical homosexual agenda. The Times is a hive of elitist domestic terrorists and illegal immigrants.

  34. 53

    YLB spews:

    52 – Here’s a fact – after Clinton was done, the country’s finances were in surplus.

    The Chimp you voted for twice? Utter disaster.

    You wouldn’t know a fucking fact if it bit you on the ass.

    Loser!

  35. 54

    Puddybud spews:

    Notice how yelling loser boy changes the subject whenever challenged by facts?

    Nauseating…