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The Seattle Times: All the news that fits… their way of thinking

by Goldy — Monday, 3/1/10, 12:48 pm

Thousands of Seattlites rally in support of healthy care reform at a Sept. 2009 rally the Seattle Times didn't bother to cover.

Thousands filled Westlake Park in support of health care reform, at a Sept. 2009 rally the Seattle Times didn't bother to cover.

Back in September, when two to three thousand people swarmed Westlake Park in support of health care reform — specifically, a greatly expanded federal government role in the health care market — the Seattle Times didn’t think the event merited even a mention in the following day’s paper. Nothing. Nada. Zilch.

Yet when maybe a couple hundred teabaggers show up to celebrate the anniversary of their faux movement, the Times apparently feels the need to devote a political reporter, a photographer and twenty column inches:

An anniversary “tea party” rally drew about 250 people to a rainy corner in Northgate on Saturday afternoon. Not bad for Seattle, or as one participant called it, “Lib-Ville.”

Really? This is news, and the ten-times-bigger pro-HCR/pro-government rally was not? You gotta be fucking kidding.

Frank Blethen pays a professional photographer to snap photos of a handful of soggy sign-wavers.

Frank Blethen pays a professional photographer precious dollars to snap photos of a handful of soggy sign-wavers.

This is the type of shit that drives media critics like me absolutely nuts. It’s “false equivalency” taken to the Nth degree, with the Times not only covering the teabaggers totally out of proportion to their actual numbers, but entirely ignoring the much larger and more energized pro-reform movement on the other side. And more coherent as well, especially compared to the “keep government out of my Medicare” logic of your typical teabagger:

They oppose abortion because of their religious beliefs, and they attended their first tea-party event last year after paying their taxes, they said. But they’re perhaps most passionate about the tea-party movement’s common ground: the size of government.

“Government is too big and it’s too intrusive,” said Doug Larsen.

That’s right… government is too big and too intrusive… which is why they want it to tell women what they should or should not do with their bodies.

But, you know, the Blethens have been in the newspaper business for four generations, so if they tell me that this idiot babbling in the rain is newsworthy, while several thousand people rallying in support of health care reform is not, I suppose I’ll just have to bow to their superior journalistic expertise.

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  1. 1

    manoftruth spews:

    Monday, 3/1/10 at 1:00 pm

    you make me laugh my balls off goldstein. how many right wing gatherings were either ignored or downplayed by the msm?
    as they say when flabbergasted…..puleeeze

  2. 2

    mikek spews:

    Monday, 3/1/10 at 1:07 pm

    And the article was above the fold on the front page of the local news section.

  3. 3

    Luigi Giovanni spews:

    Monday, 3/1/10 at 1:14 pm

    The difference is similar to the difference between astroturf and real grass.

  4. 4

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 3/1/10 at 1:15 pm

    @1 You gotta be lying because everybody knows you don’t have any balls.

  5. 5

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 3/1/10 at 1:16 pm

    Frnak Blethen’s Republican Times is a WSRP propaganda sheet — this is news??

  6. 6

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 3/1/10 at 1:29 pm

    “Critics Say Glenn Beck Incites Violence”

    Hey … I didn’t write that headline, I swiped it from here:

    http://www.aolnews.com/the-poi.....s/19377910

    (Under “fair use,” of course.)

    “(March 1) — Some liberal commentators worry that Glenn Beck’s increasingly strident verbal attacks on all things ‘progressive’ could lead to physical attacks. …

    “AlterNet’s David Sirota accused Beck of ‘deliberately employing coded and menacing language’ in his speech at last month’s Conservative Political Action Conference in Washington. … Beck’s CPAC appearance showed that ‘a once-principled conservative movement of reasoned activists has turned into a mob … cheering a demagogue’s demand for the physical annihilation of those with whom he disagrees,’ Sirota wrote. …

    “Sirota dismissed the argument that Beck is targeting progressive ideology, not progressives themselves. That’s like saying, ‘The Nazis’ beef was with Judaism but not Jews,’ Sirota said.

    “‘Eliminationism’ is how Crooks and Liars’ David Neiwert described Beck’s message. …
    ‘Beck is taking us down a certain path with this kind of rhetoric …,’ Neiwert observed.

    “A … New York Times column by Frank Rich … suggested … Beck, along with Sarah Palin and Ron Paul, … share an ideology that ‘plays to the lock-and-load nutcases out there ….'”

    Roger Rabbit Commentary: Here we have no fewer than three respected journalists indicting Beck for inciting violence against progressives. Does this guy have to go around pinning bullseye targets to us before we realize what’s going on? Liberals must arm!

  7. 7

    Mark Centz spews:

    Monday, 3/1/10 at 1:39 pm

    Nice catch. But the Times is a dying medium. Keep pounding the stake, but the TV has it’s own horrors.

    Yesterday, turning on the frozen olys, I turned on King TV a bit early and discovered the local version of MTP, Up Front, and it was a program that would make Frank Blethen proud and happy. 4 guests. The first two were a pair of wingnut welfare types from the Evergreen Freedom Foundation (friends of Glenn Beck!) complaining about the legislature balancing the budget by raising taxes (not the sensible fashion advocated by Goldie, but that’s a different matter). There was no one on the liberal or Democratic side to offer counterpoint.
    The middle guest, was Erica C of Pubicola and Stranger fame, and she spoke, in a professional fashion as a professional journalist about how our new mayor is running something of a loose ship in his early days.
    The final guest was Sen. Benton (R) of Vancouver WA, who spoke against the tax increase and described the 51.24% win as “a pretty sizable majority” without invoking numbers, nor for that matter was the host, Susannah Frame, who also made no comment on what constitutes a “sizable majority”.
    I don’t know what kind of reach this show has, but it’s yet another example of the not-liberal media, and it bears keeping an eye on. Have I missed that someone in Left Blogostan is doing so? As the papers move to the web, local TV may increasingly effect local politics.

  8. 8

    SJ spews:

    Monday, 3/1/10 at 1:45 pm

    1. manoftruth spews:

    you make me laugh my balls off goldstein. how many right wing gatherings were either ignored or downplayed by the msm?
    as they say when flabbergasted…..puleeeze

    I will bite that one? Can YOU name any?

  9. 9

    Lefty Loosey spews:

    Monday, 3/1/10 at 1:49 pm

    OK. Take this, teabaggers. Government too intrusive? OK, I’ll take your complaints seriously when you:
    1) Publicly vow to never accept Medicare or Medicaid (or refuse to accept it any more if you’re on it) as well as any VA benefits (if you’re eligible)

    2) Publicly endorse Gay marriage, since a government has no business telling people who they should or should not marry.

    OK, I’m waiting….

  10. 10

    rhp6033 spews:

    Monday, 3/1/10 at 1:58 pm

    After trying to ignore Glen Beck for a while, I finally got around to checking into his “credentials” as a social and political commentator. It seems that he once attended one class in college, but dropped out soon thereafter (not completing even one class).

    He, and his supporters, argue that he is self-educated, having read books in the library, and some even argue that not attending college is a point in his favor.

    Now, I’ve never argued that someone who attends college is somehow superior to someone who doesn’t. Lot’s of people can be self-educated, if they make a real effort of it.

    But one of the problems with such self-education is that it takes an extraordinarily self-disciplined person to do it right. A real student is willing to learn first, and then form opinions – not just seek out references to justify their preconceived notions.

    The value of a college education is that the professor requires them to read, understand, and discuss writings with which they might not agree (or might not immediately be interested in), to discuss the concepts in a respectful manner in class with the professer and fellow students, and to participate in such readings and discussions as part of study groups, jont projects, etc.

    The end result is a student with a much broader background upon which they can analyize any particular topic.

    So when I see someone who drops out without completing a single class, who argues that Democrats are both socialists and fascists (betrying a complete absence of knowledge of the philosophies and histories behind both political/economic philosophies), I see someone who was so set in his preconceived ideas that he wasn’t willing to take the time or energy to learn anything more, or to subject his ideas to scrutiny by anyone not already predisposed to agree with him.

  11. 11

    Mr. Cynical spews:

    Monday, 3/1/10 at 2:04 pm

    6. Roger Rabbit spews:

    “Critics Say Glenn Beck Incites Violence”

    Do you think his free speech has “incited violence”?
    Which examples do you think support that contention?
    Why wasn’t Beck arrested??

  12. 12

    rhp6033 spews:

    Monday, 3/1/10 at 2:05 pm

    I went to the Seattle Home Show on Saturday. The Seattle Times had two booths there. They offered to give me a free subscription for three months, I could cancel at any time, along with some interesting gifts (umbrellas, Entertainment books, etc.). I declined because I just didn’t want to deal with the excess paper waste. As we walked away, they were practically PLEADING with me to subscribe.

    So, if the Times is giving away a free three-months subscription AND giving away $20.00 gifts to entice you to take something for free – how much value can a subscription have? And since advertising rates are set by the number of paid subscribers, shouldn’t someone who is being PAID to be a subscriber be SUBTRACTED from the count of actual paid subscribers (i.e, be counted as a negative number, thereby offsetting an actual paid subscriber?).

  13. 13

    Mr. Cynical spews:

    Monday, 3/1/10 at 2:06 pm

    The Fringe Lunatic Has overused the race card in attacking Obam-Mao’s critics.
    Now the tactic du jour is to accuse those who question “the l’il messiah” of inciting violence!
    Now that is pure desperation.

  14. 14

    manoftruth spews:

    Monday, 3/1/10 at 2:10 pm

    @9
    Take this, teabaggers. Government too intrusive? OK, I’ll take your complaints seriously when you:
    1) Publicly vow to never accept Medicare or Medicaid (or refuse to accept it any more if you’re on it) as well as any VA benefits (if you’re eligible)

    ok, as soon as they stop deducting for it from my paycheck.

    2) Publicly endorse Gay marriage, since a government has no business telling people who they should or should not marry.

    ok, as soon as the msm stops hounding mormons and other groups who beilieve in multiple wives

  15. 15

    uptown spews:

    Monday, 3/1/10 at 2:17 pm

    @13 Damn boy, you sure are scary (in the completely out of it way).

  16. 16

    uptown spews:

    Monday, 3/1/10 at 2:22 pm

    @9 I’ll take their complaints seriously when…

    Oh yeah, don’t give a f***.

  17. 17

    Jared Diamond's collapse spews:

    Monday, 3/1/10 at 2:22 pm

    Back in 2001 when hundreds of citizens united for a United We Stand America rally at the Federal Building, how did Blethen’s Bugle portray the patriotism of the event? With a thousand-word picture showing in the background a Real American with a God Bless America sign.

    And in the foreground? Almost larger than life? An untite Seattleite with a sign (I’M WITH STUPID) and an arrow pointing to the patriot.

  18. 18

    Mr. Cynical spews:

    Monday, 3/1/10 at 2:23 pm

    @15–
    Scarey?? In what way?
    Obam-Mao and his henchmen have used the race card several times to deflect from issues.
    And why else are Lefty’s who claim to believe in free speech attacking Glen Beck’s free speech?
    Seems like the screaming from the left is baseless and only there for one reason..to try and minimize Beck.
    If what they claim is true, shouldn’t Beck be arrested??

  19. 19

    Jared Diamond's collapse spews:

    Monday, 3/1/10 at 2:30 pm

    @13: That’s becoming a knee-jerk reaction of the jerks. If any partyer, bagger, conservative, libertarian, Republican says a discouraging word about the president, cries of racism! ensue.

    That’s why I wondered last week if Ted Rall’s wild and crazy contempt for Barack Hussein Obama is proof that Ted Rall is a right-wing racist.

    (Hertzberg at The New Yorker does a variation on the theme. He writes that Biden’s condescending and typically-white put-down of Obama as clean and articulate was benign. But when Rush Limbaugh repeated Biden’s words back at him, Rush was racist.)

    (Hussein the sequel: Remember when conservative Bill Cunningham got in trouble for using Obama’s middle name at a McCain rally? Remember when Obama used Obama’s own middle name at Obama’s inauguration? Well, the whiplash left is doing another Linda Blair head spin because Tom Tancredo at the bagger convention mentioned … Obama’s middle name.)

  20. 20

    Rat City Spawn spews:

    Monday, 3/1/10 at 2:39 pm

    Is it just me or are they about 240 people short on that crowd estimate?

  21. 21

    uptown spews:

    Monday, 3/1/10 at 2:42 pm

    @18 because I think you might actually believe what you type, and it’s pretty much childish rants.

    Obam-Mao wow, I just don’t know what to say. That’s the best you could come up with?
    to try and minimize Beck. Thought he did that every time he spoke.
    And why else are Lefty’s who claim to believe in free speech attacking Glen Beck’s free speech? Why? Ever heard of free speech? It applies to all, not just those you agree with.

  22. 22

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 3/1/10 at 2:43 pm

    @12 A few years ago, I sicced the state attorney general’s consumer protection office on the Seattle Times because they were using what I call “harassment marketing,” i.e., I received several telemarketing calls a week (even though I had an unlisted phone), this went on for months, and when I asked them to stop calling they ramped up the harassment. The state finally shut those calls down.

    “Harassment marketing” consists of hounding a potential customer so much, and so frequently, that they will eventually cave in and buy the product or service just to get the salesmen off his back. Such purchases are in no way voluntary on the part of the customer; they are a result of coercion. This tactic not only should be illegal, it should be prosecuted as felony extortion, because that’s exactly what it is.

    Another prominent practitioner of “harassment marketing” is Comcast. Over the last 10 years, I’ve thrown away over 1,000 pieces of junk mail from Comcast. Lately, they’ve started sending salesmen to my hole. The “No Solicitors” sign has gone up, so these pests are now breaking the law if they knock or ring my bell, and I will call the police and prosecute them.

  23. 23

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 3/1/10 at 2:47 pm

    I just want to remind everyone that 1.1 million unemployed Americans will lose their unemployment benefits and be forced to go to food banks and soup kitchens (or go hungry) this weekend because GOP Senator Jim Bunning blocked the Democrats’ unemployment extension bill.

    How can one senator do this to over a million American citizens? I mean, don’t we have 100 senators, and doesn’t the principle of “majority rule” say it takes 51 senators’ votes to defeat a bill? So how can ONE Republican senator wield such power in a nation of 300 million people? Something’s wrong here.

    America was founded on the principles of democracy. Amend the Constitution, if necessary, to end the Tyranny of the Minority we have in this country.

  24. 24

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 3/1/10 at 2:49 pm

    What kind of mean bastard who made millions of dollars a year as a professional baseball player would block unemployment benefits for 1.1 million unemployed Americans who now face going hungry this weekend? A Republican mean bastard, that’s who. Why would anyone vote Republican? It’s a mystery.

  25. 25

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 3/1/10 at 2:51 pm

    @9 They didn’t think government was “too intrusive” when Nixon was burglarizing private offices to silence his critics, or George W. Bush was wiretapping tens of millions of Americans in violation of federal laws and their constitutional rights; so, frankly, I think we should take that argument and shove it up their wingnut asses.

  26. 26

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 3/1/10 at 2:53 pm

    @14 “ok, as soon as they stop deducting for it from my paycheck.”

    Are you one of those idiots who thinks paying taxes is voluntary?

  27. 27

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 3/1/10 at 2:58 pm

    @18 Nobody’s saying the government should shut up Glenn Beck, knucklehead. They’re not even saying Beck should shut himself up. All they’re doing is criticizing what he’s saying. Do you have a problem with their free speech?

  28. 28

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 3/1/10 at 2:59 pm

    As for me, if some rightwing incendiary manages to talk the unstable elements in their movement into trying to actually eliminate liberals, I’ll do my talking with … well, you know what I’m gonna do my talking with.

  29. 29

    Puddybud is Sad my friend died spews:

    Monday, 3/1/10 at 3:06 pm

    Thousands filled Westlake Park in support of health care reform, at a Sept. 2009 rally the Seattle Times didn’t bother to cover.

    Reminds Puddy of the Tea Party coverage by the slobbering libtardo MSM.

  30. 30

    Puddybud is Sad my friend died spews:

    Monday, 3/1/10 at 3:10 pm

    “Critics Say Glenn Beck Incites Violence”

    Wrong headline

    It should say “Leftist Kook-aid Purveyors Glenn Beck Incites Violence”

    Corrected.

  31. 31

    Killer Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 3/1/10 at 3:11 pm

    Yes, Roger. We know.

  32. 32

    Puddybud is Sad my friend died spews:

    Monday, 3/1/10 at 3:20 pm

    As for me, if some moonbat leftwing incendiaries (Van Jones, Cass Sunstein, John Holdren for example) manage to talk the unstable elements in their movement (Van Jones, Cass Sunstein, John Holdren for example) into trying to actually eliminate conservatives, I’ll do my talking with … well, you know what I’m gonna do my talking with.

    Corrected again.

  33. 33

    Emily spews:

    Monday, 3/1/10 at 3:21 pm

    @24 Roger says

    What kind of mean bastard who made millions of dollars a year as a professional baseball player would block unemployment benefits for 1.1 million unemployed Americans who now face going hungry this weekend? A Republican mean bastard, that’s who.

    Bunning surely is a Republican mean bastard, but I bet he never made millions of dollars a year. His pitching days were over in 1971 and free agency didn’t begin until 1975. This is probably one of the things that Bunning is so mad about–all those other guys are making 20X more dough than he did. Waaaaaah.

    If you ever should meet Bunning be sure to ask him about his role in the 1964 Phillies and their pennant race. That’ll get him going, I bet.

  34. 34

    manoftruth spews:

    Monday, 3/1/10 at 3:24 pm

    @18
    @15–
    If what they claim is true, shouldn’t Beck be arrested??

    maybe we should place a call to the good folks of vermont, you know, the ones who wanted to issue arrest warrants for george bush and dick cheney. i assume they would also arrest beck.

  35. 35

    GBS spews:

    Monday, 3/1/10 at 3:28 pm

    Good Lord, how many times do I have to say this:

    STOP BUYING THE FUCKING SEATTLE TIMES NEWSPAPER.

  36. 36

    lebowski spews:

    Monday, 3/1/10 at 3:52 pm

    glenn beck – keith olbermann – rush – rachel madcow….

    what the fuck is the difference? NONE.

  37. 37

    lebowski spews:

    Monday, 3/1/10 at 3:53 pm

    @33…once again, Geobbels Rabbit doesnt have a clue about what he is talking about.

    perhaps thats why he cant practice law anymore..

  38. 38

    rhp6033 spews:

    Monday, 3/1/10 at 3:56 pm

    35: Oh, I should point out, that nobody at the Home Show was arguing that I should buy the Seattle Times because of it’s news coverage or it’s editorial content. They were arguing that the value of the advertising circulors and coupons inside the Sunday editions made it a worthwhile purchase.

    Of course, I get all the advertising circulars and coupons I need in the mail anyway, so that argument doesn’t bear much weight with me.

  39. 39

    lebowski spews:

    Monday, 3/1/10 at 4:00 pm

    @38…the times ceased being usefull once the enviro-nazi’s outlawed bonfires on Alki and golden gardens…

  40. 40

    Mr. Cynical spews:

    Monday, 3/1/10 at 4:13 pm

    21. uptown spews:

    And why else are Lefty’s who claim to believe in free speech attacking Glen Beck’s free speech? Why? Ever heard of free speech? It applies to all, not just those you agree with

    #1 Purpose of Free Speech==
    To be able to hold those in Power accountable…and that would be Obam-Mao!

  41. 41

    Puddybud is Sad my friend died spews:

    Monday, 3/1/10 at 4:13 pm

    Emily… Apparently you just accept the Pellets from the Dumb Bunny without knowing the facts. Shame on you for eating those smelly Dumb Bunny Pellets! That’s why he’s Herr Goebbels Himmler Dumb Bunny, stupid is as stupid does.

    Your DUMMOCRAPTIC leaders claimed they passed so-called pay-go legislation which is supposed to require that they find offsets or other savings if they are going to spend money. Senator Bunning asked if the 30-day expense of $10 Billion could be paid from $400 Billion of unspent Stimulus monies and NOT ADDED TO THE EXISTING DEBT. Senators Turban Dick Durbin and Bernie I’m a Socialist Sanders said NO! So Bunning said sorry live up to your previous commitments.

    So once again you need to dig into the real issue and slobbering DUMMOCRAPTIC loving MSM will not tell you the truth!

  42. 42

    Mr. Cynical spews:

    Monday, 3/1/10 at 4:15 pm

    24. Roger Rabbit spews:

    What kind of mean bastard who made millions of dollars a year as a professional baseball player

    FYI..When Bunning played in the 60’s, players made less than $100k.

  43. 43

    Puddybud is Sad my friend died spews:

    Monday, 3/1/10 at 4:15 pm

    Lebowski@36…

    Odormann and MadCow are real haters like ylb arschloch. Rush and Glenn actually provide facts.

  44. 44

    Mr. Cynical spews:

    Monday, 3/1/10 at 4:17 pm

    35. GBS spews:

    Good Lord, how many times do I have to say this:

    STOP BUYING THE FUCKING SEATTLE TIMES NEWSPAPER.

    How many times do I have to say this:
    NO ONE EVER LISTENS TO YOU GBS!

  45. 45

    Puddybud is Sad my friend died spews:

    Monday, 3/1/10 at 4:21 pm

    Cynical,

    In person GBS is an alright guy. PacMan actually liked GBS. When he’s behind the terminal on a keyboard he loses his mind!

  46. 46

    Mr. Cynical spews:

    Monday, 3/1/10 at 4:29 pm

    Yeah…I can see how that is likely.
    GBS seems to have terminal terminalitis. A deadly inflamation of the lucid thought producing portion of the brain.

  47. 47

    Joe Szilagyi spews:

    Monday, 3/1/10 at 4:32 pm

    The wrong local newspaper died. The Times is a waste of paper and nothing more than a mouthpiece for the owners, management, and fiscal shareholders. It’s a poor man’s Fox News.

  48. 48

    Mr. Cynical spews:

    Monday, 3/1/10 at 4:33 pm

    Actually Joe…
    The Seattle P-I committed suicide…by pandering to nutjobs like you.

  49. 49

    Puddybud is Sad my friend died spews:

    Monday, 3/1/10 at 4:43 pm

    The gift that keeps giving…

  50. 50

    Puddybud is Sad my friend died spews:

    Monday, 3/1/10 at 4:44 pm

    You’d think the P-I would have flourished in a progressive city such as Seattle. Puddy guesses even to most level-headed liberals (read not progressive libtardos) the P-I swill was too over the top!

  51. 51

    Mark Centz spews:

    Monday, 3/1/10 at 5:17 pm

    50. Puddybud is Sad my friend died spews:
    You’d think the P-I would have flourished in a progressive city such as Seattle. Puddy guesses

    Puddy should try thinking first. The numbers aren’t there. The PI made a go of it on the basis of being the exclusive morning paper as that became more and more the prime marketspot. When the Times moved in on that position, together with the Times owning the advertising and and advertising staff, the internet age which is going to destroy all newspapers sooner or later is killing the weak ones first. Especially as the younger internet friendly buyers were the first to stop buying newsprint, and are also a more progressive crowd.
    A reporter friend of mine at the PI tells me that they’re about to turn a profit on their dot com operation, which I would bet can’t be said of the Seattle Times at this point. Which is worth exactly the same as Puddy’s (and it is sad about his friend) insights, which is to say worthless without the data. What’s the over/under line for the Times? Will they fold by the end of 2011, or before?

  52. 52

    MikeBoyScout spews:

    Monday, 3/1/10 at 5:19 pm

    If you have a bird or a small puppy, buy the S. Times.

    If you want daily news you can use, read PubliCola.

  53. 53

    Puddybud is Sad my friend died spews:

    Monday, 3/1/10 at 5:29 pm

    Mark Centz is a laugh a minute.

    Puddy stands by his earlier comment… A progressive town should have supported the moonbat! swill. They didn’t.

    Nuff SAID sucka!

  54. 54

    Mark Centz spews:

    Monday, 3/1/10 at 5:48 pm

    Puddy, you certainly brought a smile to my face. Wherever I see or read “nuff said” and I conclude idiot. C’mon, you’re better than that. That’s Sifl talk.

    Content doesn’t matter all that much. Ad dollars do, and the ad prices at the PI were set and collected by the Times, at a level that my company home office in LA thought onerous, as they were buying ads in both papers. Had the PI been a free player, they might have been able to compete with better ad prices. But the JOA, which was the only reason they were in existence, precluded that option. And the JOA came into being in an era when the PI was the even more reactionary paper in Seattle, when the Hearsts ran the editorial and news content with a firm hand, and the Hearsts are not liberals. The PI’s more progressive stance was a last gasp attempt by the Hearsts to make money in liberal Seattle, and while it did help out somewhat, the damage was already too extensive.
    The Stranger may yet literally be Seattle’s Only Newspaper. Progressive content at a very competitive price. Progressives also value shop, Puddy.

  55. 55

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 3/1/10 at 6:38 pm

    Washingtonians Love To Elect Their Appointed Judges

    Washington has 218 judges serving on the state supreme court, court of appeals, and superior courts. All of these are elective positions, although the governor gets to fill vacancies.

    Of the 218 judges, only 87 were originally elected to the bench; the other 131 were appointed by the govenor.

    In other words, under our current system of open judicial elections, 60% of our judges were chosen by the governor, not the voters.

    Source: Washington State Bar News, March 2010

    http://www.wsba.org/media/publ.....rticle.pdf

    It has long been assumed, by editorial writers and others, that Washington voters would never give up their cherised right to elect our state’s appointed judges. However, a survey conducted by the Washington State Bar Association shows substantial voter support for a “merit selection” system.

    Under this system, a “bipartisan, broad-based commission (made up equally of lawyers and non-lawyers from across the state)” would evaluate candidates and recommend “the most highly qualified” to the governor, who would be required to appoint a candidate from the list submitted by the commission. The judges thus chosen would “face periodic retention elections in which voters decide” whether the judges remain in office.

    According to the survey, on a scale of 1 to 7, with “1” least favorable and “7” most favorable, 58% of the respondents rated this system “5” or higher, while only 11% rated it “1” or “2”.

    This indicates strong support exists for a system of appointing judges with voters having the option to vote them out of office after they’ve served on the bench for a while.

    In other words, much like the system we have now with respect to 60% of our judges.

    (Id.)

  56. 56

    Widget spews:

    Monday, 3/1/10 at 7:43 pm

    I speak only for myself, but whatever the Seattle Times chooses to publish is of no consequence to me — I no longer read it.

  57. 57

    MarkS spews:

    Monday, 3/1/10 at 8:06 pm

    So whose balls is Frank Blethen sucking? If you doused them with vodka I’m sure he’d like em even better.

  58. 58

    YLB spews:

    Monday, 3/1/10 at 8:34 pm

    Police in the northcentral Washington city of Brewster say they’ve arrested a 17-year-old boy and seized guns after investigating a tip that he wrote on Facebook about plans for a school shooting in 2011.

    http://www.seattlepi.com/local....._plan.html

    Hmmm.. Okanogan County voted for Rossi in 2004/2008. Surely supporting Cathy McMorris-Rodgers in her vote against the stimulus while not being shy about taking 14 million dollars of it.

    As braindead Stupes style thnking goes, that boy with all the guns must have been influenced by the right wing attitudes there.

  59. 59

    YLB spews:

    Monday, 3/1/10 at 8:38 pm

    Wherever I see or read “nuff said” and I conclude idiot.

    Exactly!

    Great call…

  60. 60

    Troll spews:

    Monday, 3/1/10 at 9:03 pm

    I bet Goldy’s daughter is a teabagger.

  61. 61

    Puddybud is Sad my friend died spews:

    Monday, 3/1/10 at 9:35 pm

    Mark Centz made Puddy’s case and as such proved he’s a moron! Nuthin new there.

    The PI’s more progressive stance was a last gasp attempt by the Hearsts to make money in liberal Seattle

    The Hearst family recognized Seattle for what it was… Unfortunately for the P-I many Seattle peeps said no sale!

    Nuff SAID is an inner city term. So by default above you are calling inner city peeps idiots. Puddy is sure all the inner city blacks will be glad a moron such as yourself knows all about us from the inner city.

    The vicarious fool AKA ylb arschloch@59 is as always a vicarious fool!

    BTW vicarious fool did you figger out karen is not kaitlyn or DanielS or xuxa?

    Such a schmuck!

  62. 62

    Puddybud is Sad my friend died spews:

    Monday, 3/1/10 at 9:43 pm

    Puddy notices the progressives have nuthin to say about Senator Bunning when the truth comes out about the Senate conversation with Turban Dick Durbin.

    This is why Puddy always scrutinizes the Dumb Bunny rants. He seldom fact checks.

  63. 63

    YLB spews:

    Monday, 3/1/10 at 9:53 pm

    61 – I bet someone you know for sure!

    As long as she makes an appearance with other “hit sqaud” members, she’s suspect.

    Poor lonely Stupes. Needs his followers…

    What a miserable loon..

  64. 64

    Mark Centz spews:

    Monday, 3/1/10 at 9:54 pm

    Puddy, you dishonor your late friend when attach his memory to such foul comments. If you’re going to attack me on spurious grounds, have at it, but leave your friend out of it.
    Next, can’t say that I’ve given the derivation of the term ’nuff said’ any thought. I’ve run across it online far more than in spoken word, and in circumstances such as these where race is not any factor whatsoever. You want to call out a racist, find a mirror, and pray, because if you throw such hateful language on such a slender excuse you haven’t found spiritual peace yet. I wish you well on that path.
    Finally, on the PI you’ve called me a name and avoided my points. That’s a concession.

  65. 65

    Freddy and the Dreamers spews:

    Monday, 3/1/10 at 10:22 pm

    re 13: If someone stated that they would like to hang Mitch McConnell, you’d be tripping over your feet to call the authorities.

    You are such a fuckwad. I’m quite sure that Jesus does NOT love you.

  66. 66

    Proud To Be An Ass spews:

    Monday, 3/1/10 at 10:22 pm

    Fudbucket @ 62….The TRUTH you say? Here’s the truth. Bunning voted against paygo. Bunning voted for all the Bush tax cuts and NEVER asked for offsets. He supported putting two unjustified wars on the credit card. He voted for the Medicare Drug Prescription bill that blew a trillion dollar hole in future budgets. He is a bitter old political has-been who was embarrassed by his inability to raise money for 2010 reelection and shows his courage by punishing the unemployed.

    He’s so weird, even his fellow gop senators shy away from him.

    Your swinging Craftsman is weak today. Unmitigated fail.

  67. 67

    Freddy and the Dreamers spews:

    Monday, 3/1/10 at 10:26 pm

    re 64: ‘Nuff said!’ is something that was frequently stated by Mammy Yokum and Snuffy Smith when they’d delivered the gospel on one thing or another.

    I think PuddWaxx is imitating Mammy Yokum, as Snuffy has two more balls than the Waxxster possesses.

    It’s an envy thing.

    ’nuff said!!!!

  68. 68

    Mark Centz spews:

    Monday, 3/1/10 at 10:53 pm

    PtbaA, right you are on that broken-down old hurler. Kentucky was the home of Henry Clay, one of the greatest legislators ever to sit in Congress and Bunning represents them now. Sad.

    Puddy: Durbin/Bunning chat? Details? Link? You’re falling down on the job, hand waving doesn’t get the job done. Or are you reffering to “Tough Shit“? I hope you can better than that.

    Freddy, thanks, but my powers of Google have failed me, can’t find any examples of Snuffy or Ma using that phrase online.

  69. 69

    YLB spews:

    Monday, 3/1/10 at 11:21 pm

    Yo Stupes,

    Darryl pointed out long ago the troll behind the “hit squad”..

    willow/bJav/jon/sue/xota/maggie/daves/james

    All the same freak.. karen fits the MO..

    Acquaintances of yours perhaps??

    In any case makes your MWS/Kingbud shit look weak.

  70. 70

    Mathew "RennDawg" Renner spews:

    Tuesday, 3/2/10 at 4:04 am

    Oh man. I am in the picture but it is just my hands. I am between the women in the blue and red shirts. You can see my hands. I am holding a flag. Just a few more steps and I would have been the picture completly. Just my luck.

  71. 71

    Proud To Be An Ass spews:

    Tuesday, 3/2/10 at 4:48 am

    “Freddy, thanks, but my powers of Google have failed me, can’t find any examples of Snuffy or Ma using that phrase online.”

    Try also “’nuff said + Stan Lee”. But I’d wager it’s a variant of “so ’nuff”….Amos’n’Andy? So Phutwing may be on to something instead of merely huffing it.

  72. 72

    Puddybud is Sad my friend died spews:

    Tuesday, 3/2/10 at 5:49 am

    Freddy aka headless lucy doppelganger #51,

    Nuff SAID Sucka was used in Philly growing up. Sure it could be from cartoons… but who stole the high five, low five back five etc… y’all whiteys did.

    Puddy remembers an old cartoon daddy had in the upstairs music library by Jules Feiffer from around 1966…

    I dug the blues, whitey took it.
    I dug hip, whitey took it.
    I dug cool, whitey took it.
    I dug jazz, whitey took it too.
    I dug freedom, and finally lost whitey.

    Soooooooooooooooooo NUFF SAID Suckas!

  73. 73

    Puddybud is Sad my friend died spews:

    Tuesday, 3/2/10 at 5:58 am

    Here’s the truth. Bunning voted against paygo.

    Got your information from Daily Kos Puddy sees. So what? Hairy Reid and the Senate DUMMOCRAPTS decided to make it their rule. It passed so Bunning said if y’all want it them live by what you passed, use the Porkulus Funds. Since the DUMMOCRAPTS decided this is how they want budget going forward, start with this $10 Billion. Turban Dick Durbin and Bernie I’m a Socialist said no… we won’t live by the rules we just passed a month ago.

    Man ASSProud, another of your stupid worthless and mornonic comments!

  74. 74

    Puddybud is Sad my friend died spews:

    Tuesday, 3/2/10 at 6:04 am

    For ASSProud, he cheered when Clinton shutdown government in 1995 when Gingrich offered a balanced budget which cut yearly government increases from 8% to 5%. Remember the screams Gingrich cut the school lunch programs. An abject lie you jockstrapped ASSProud! So Clinton pouted and had a temper tantrum. ASSProud had no problem with that. Then when Clinton signed balanced budgets throughout the rest of Republican congresses it was a “good” thing. So you know where you can park your pay-go comment.

    DUMMOCRAPTS, don’t do as we say, because we don’t believe in any rules.

    See how stupid you are ASSProud?

  75. 75

    Puddybud is Sad my friend died spews:

    Tuesday, 3/2/10 at 6:09 am

    Now to Mark Centz,

    Still screaming about the P-I? You made my day with your Hearst family comments about liberal Seattle. Puddy answered every one of your “rants” here. It’s progressives who claim this is a libtardo town. The P-I was whack-job progressive and peeps didn’t read it. Their editorials were staple here on HA Libtardos for years. If that doesn’t answer about their commentary, what does mark.

    Hence, why should companies advertise in a dying paper? If the readership jockstrapped the paper, advertising revenue would have increased. Companies follow the money. If the P-I was doing well peeps would have sent their revenue to the P-I. Plain and simple.

  76. 76

    Puddybud is Sad my friend died spews:

    Tuesday, 3/2/10 at 6:11 am

    ya know if ylb arschloch had an original thought on this blog, he’d be “almost worthy”.

    Instead he’s the continual dumb brick…

    zzzzzzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

    LMBBAO LMBBAO LMBBAO

    Useless as always, associating two fine ladies who question his manhood with others and then using Darryl as his reason.

    Whatamoron!

  77. 77

    Puddybud is Sad my friend died spews:

    Tuesday, 3/2/10 at 6:14 am

    Oh and another thing ylb arschloch…

    GBS knew KingBud was me so that was nuthin new. Remember fool, we break bread together. Another moronic comment from the dumb brick.

  78. 78

    Mr. Cynical spews:

    Tuesday, 3/2/10 at 6:15 am

    Puddy–
    We have a group out here called the Big Sky Pachyderm’s that meet monthly.

    Our speaker this month will be John Baden, founder and chairman of the Foundation for Research on Economics and the Environment(FREE). He will be presenting “The Misplaced Arrogance of Today’s Progressives”.

    We get up to 300 Progressive-haters…getting educated and ready for the battle ahead.

  79. 79

    Mr. Cynical spews:

    Tuesday, 3/2/10 at 6:19 am

    Mark Centz spews:

    A reporter friend of mine at the PI tells me that they’re about to turn a profit on their dot com operation, which I would bet can’t be said of the Seattle Times at this point.

    The P-I has a dot.com operation?
    I forgot about that…and will continue to avoid it.
    A profit??? Those greedy corporate bastards~
    They need to share that profit with corporate-hating leftist groups like ACORN & HorsesAss.org!

  80. 80

    Mr. Cynical spews:

    Tuesday, 3/2/10 at 6:22 am

    Mark Centz says–

    Progressive content at a very competitive price. Progressives also value shop, Puddy.

    Yeah Mark, they value shop for someone else to pay their share!

  81. 81

    Mr. Cynical spews:

    Tuesday, 3/2/10 at 6:30 am

    Hey Puddy–
    Mark Centz decided NOT TO READ your actual P-I comments and use the old Obam-Mao trick of then accusing you of not answering. It’s what Obam-Mao & his ilk continue to do about Health Care. The Republicans lay out a Plan as requested, Obam-Mao accuses them of having no plan. Silly. That trick has worn thin with most THINKING Americans.
    C’mon Mark—you can agree to disagree with freedom-fighting Americans here at HA…but knock of the idiotic accusations of not responding when the response is clear.

    Puddy–
    Excellent catch on the Bunning-Turban controversy.
    Here is how thin the thinking portion of Libtardo brain matter is….they read the DailyKos and regurgatate what they absorb WITHOUT THINKING OR QUESTIONING.
    Fools.

  82. 82

    Mr. Cynical spews:

    Tuesday, 3/2/10 at 6:34 am

    Puddy–
    Notice how we are up early starting our PRODUCTIVE days…while the LIBTARDO’s continue their excessive slumber?
    Perhaps it’s Depression that makes them sleep so much? More likely too much pot.
    Conservatives are ENERGIZED and love every day God has created…even if it involves challenges or disappointments.

    Libtardo’s–get depressed, take Prozac, smoke pot and sleep…trying to fantasize that Progressivism is still alive when it ain’t!

    BTW..did you know that combining cheap pot with Prozac has been medically proven to cause early Alzheimer’s????
    I think that explains the Leftist mentality at HA. Too late to reverse it with Ginko I suspect Puddy.

  83. 83

    Mr. Cynical spews:

    Tuesday, 3/2/10 at 6:38 am

    Hey Puddy–
    Todays Rasmussen shows Obam-Mao at -13 Strong Approval and this–

    Monday, March 01, 2010 Email to a Friend ShareThis.Advertisement
    In February, the number of voters not affiliated with either major party increased by half a percentage point as both Republicans and Democrats lost further ground.

    The number of Democrats declined slightly for the fourth straight month. At 35.1%, the number of Democrats is down slightly from a month ago, down six percentage points from a year ago, and is at the lowest level recorded in more than seven years of monthly tracking by Rasmussen Reports.

    Seems like the Democrats are chasing away Moderates at an alarming rate. Why? Progressivism is so far left they wanna puke!
    Watch this number drop a few more points pre-election. And Republicans are dominating the unaffiliateds! I wish it were November today.

  84. 84

    Emily spews:

    Tuesday, 3/2/10 at 6:44 am

    Puddy @41:

    Emily… Apparently you just accept the Pellets from the Dumb Bunny without knowing the facts.

    Did you actually read what I said? I argued against Roger’s claim that Bunning was paid millions of dollars to pitch. And Cynical even agrees with me. (see @43) Who’d a thunk it?

  85. 85

    correctnotright spews:

    Tuesday, 3/2/10 at 7:45 am

    @43: I love how Puddy is carrying water for the racist Rush Limpbaugh.

    Thanks Puddy, for showing your true colors once again. it ain’t about “your peeps”, it is about your warped ideology and consent to racism.

    You and your republican bedfellows are the racist, anti-aliens, anti-gay, anti-abortion, anti-government, idea-less party that only wants to criticize but cannot lead …since you guys have no agenda except to tear down our democracy.

    Still waiting on the any coherent republican heatlh care plan…oh, yeah…what did that idiot Cantor say….prevent states from outlawing the rip-off plans in other states so that people can by fraudulent health care (I think he said open the competition – but the republican morons can’t understand the consequences of that action).

    some plan…only fools and gullible idiots are allowed in the republican party. How is that Sarah Palin doin’ so well in the party of stop government health care but keep my medicare.

    Wow, how can people that myopic and shallow actually survive?

  86. 86

    correctnotright spews:

    Tuesday, 3/2/10 at 7:49 am

    @83: Still waiting for an idiot like Klynical to actually post something that addresses any of the real problems in this country…instead the fool keeps quoting a bogus Rasmussen poll that was debunked years ago.

    Funny how stupid Klynical can be…I sure miss how he blamed the stock market collapse on Obama but has not mentioned the recovery in the stock market…..what a total tool you are Klynical.

    Did you even graduate third grade? How did you get to be so damn stupid? Why is it you are incapable of independent thought?

    Thanks for being the poster child for right wingnut ignorance.

  87. 87

    Mark Centz spews:

    Tuesday, 3/2/10 at 8:46 am

    Oh my, so much wingnut sullying such a nice morning.

    Turban Dick Durbin and Bernie I’m a Socialist said no… we won’t live by the rules we just passed a month ago.

    Blocked by the friends of the Caucus of Trolls, so “passed” is misused in this instance, which is to say misleading at best. Reactionaries want the Democrats to live by rules, let them set the rules as rules. Otherwise, your votes have consequences.

    Puddy answered every one of your “rants” here. It’s progressives who claim this is a libtardo town. The P-I was whack-job progressive and peeps didn’t read it. Their editorials were staple here on HA Libtardos for years. If that doesn’t answer about their commentary, what does mark

    .
    I pointed out that the PI adopted that liberal tone late in the game, as you noticed in an earlier handwave, There’s not much substance to this argument, papers right and left are going away, not-liberal Hearst wasn’t going to bankroll a liberal paper losing some money unlike Rev. Moon bankrolling a wingnut rag losing money by the bushel. And the not-liberal Times is going to go under while being the only game in town.

  88. 88

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Tuesday, 3/2/10 at 8:49 am

    Texas #1 In Wrongful Convictions

    Voters go to the polls in Texas today, among other things, to decide whether GOP Gov. Rick Perry will win or lose his party’s primary.

    In 2004, Texas executed Cameron Todd Willingham for a crime that nationally-recognized arson experts say didn’t happen.

    Willingham’s children died in a house fire in 1991 that a local investigator and prosecutor claimed was intentionally set. A jury convicted Willingham and sentenced him to death on the strength of an investigator’s opinion testimony, despite a complete absence of “hard” evidence. Experts now say the investigation was incompetent and based on little more than voodoo.

    A report challenging the prosecution’s case was placed on GOP Gov. Rick Perry’s desk a few hours before Willingham’s execution. GOP Gov. Rick Perry refused to read it.

    Yesterday, Perry announced that he was pleased to issue a pardon in the case of Tim Cole, who died in prison at age 39 while serving a 25-year sentence for a rape he didn’t commit. Cole was cleared by DNA evidence.

    Maybe some day GOP Gov. Rick Perry will pardon Willingham, too — but not if he can help it. Last year, he replaced members of a Texas commission investigating Willingham’s execution with cronies in an effort to head off findings that would be politically and personally embarrassing to Perry — that he refused to read the plea of a man about to go on the gurney who probably was innocent of the crime for which Perry allowed him be put to death.

    If that pardon comes, it will extend GOP Gov. Perry’s track record of pardoning wrongly convicted people after they’re dead. That’s laudable, as far as it goes, but GOP Gov. Rick Perry has done nothing to prevent wrongful convictions or executions in the first place.

    And that’s bothersome, because according to the Innocence Project of Texas, his state “has more verified wrongful convictions than any other state.” The project’s website lists the names of 40 people who were convicted in Texas and subsequently exonerated.

    http://www.aolnews.com/nation/.....n/19379566

    GOP Gov. Rick Perry is expected to win today’s primary and another term as Texas governor. Therefore, my suggestion is avoid travel to Texas, because you might end up on the gurney because of a red light camera, if the processing clerk confuses you with some robber of the same name who shot a $105,000-a-year liquor store clerk, and if that happens, your relatives will have to wait until you’re dead to get your pardon from GOP Gov. Rick Perry because he doesn’t read clemency applications until after the execution.

  89. 89

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Tuesday, 3/2/10 at 8:52 am

    @73 Bunning also blocked extended unemployment benefits for 1.1 million unemployed American workers whose benefits ran out this weekend. What an asshole! But the larger question here is, why can ONE multimillionaire ex-baseball player senator from a rathole state overrule the majority of 100 senators? That’s not democracy, or even tyranny of the minority, it’s tyranny of the one. The system needs to be changed.

  90. 90

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Tuesday, 3/2/10 at 8:57 am

    If the government regulated how much salt corporations put in our food, we could prevent 513,000 strokes and 480,000 heart attacks, and save $32.1 billion of health care costs.

    http://www.aolnews.com/health/.....s/19379199

    Roger Rabbit Commentary: So why don’t we? Because Republicans have run this country for the last 30 years, and they’re against “government interference with free markets,” and are willing to let a million Americans die and waste billions of dollars in the name of ideological purity. In short, it’s another fucking GOP-mandated market failure.

  91. 91

    N in Seattle spews:

    Tuesday, 3/2/10 at 9:08 am

    Puddy is just cute as a button when he associates himself with pink and yellow marshmallow chicks.

  92. 92

    Mark Centz spews:

    Tuesday, 3/2/10 at 9:10 am

    Mr. Cynical spews: .
    A profit??? Those greedy corporate bastards~
    They need to share that profit with corporate-hating leftist groups like ACORN & HorsesAss.org!

    ACORN? Still on that trope? No criminal charges leveled on the basis of the doctored evidence. Now we both know that lack of charges doesn’t mean wrongdoing wasn’t done, otherwise Bush, Cheney, and a lot of their underlings would be thinking about their appeals to their war crime convictions, but one thing about ACORN has left me puzzled. Even if the charges are true, so what? Lawyers making very comfortable livings are advising firms listed on the NYSE every damn day on how to avoid legal consequences for acts that would otherwise result in fines or criminal prosecution, and that’s why these firms are paying for those lawyers. Is the outrage because the ACORN guys were not a part of the union, so this is anti-scab outrage? You a union guy, Cynical?

    And then this-

    Yeah Mark, they value shop for someone else to pay their share!

    The Stranger makes a good living from giving away newsprint filled with ads freely paid for by capitalist firms who understand the value in the transaction. Same model as TV, except the TV networks rely on the socialist regulation of the airwaves so they don’t have to share frequencies with anyone else in a given area. The Stranger shares the same space with other vendors of newsprint, sometimes even the conservative Times.

  93. 93

    Mark Centz spews:

    Tuesday, 3/2/10 at 9:18 am

    C’mon Mark—you can agree to disagree with freedom-fighting Americans here at HA…but knock of the idiotic accusations of not responding when the response is clear.

    That’s off, but Centz mispells often enough that it would be a bad idea to mention it.

    Puddy–
    Excellent catch on the Bunning-Turban controversy.
    Here is how thin the thinking portion of Libtardo brain matter is….they read the DailyKos and regurgatate what they absorb WITHOUT THINKING OR QUESTIONING.
    Fools

    Controversy? Again, the handwaving. You’re going to call me uninformed anyway, so how about a link or summation, it’s mildly possible you’re not lying about something. I know, I know, but I do enjoy a good laugh. Of course you lie because that’s what you do, but every so often I have conceded a point. But first, the point has to be made.

  94. 94

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Tuesday, 3/2/10 at 9:23 am

    SPLC: Racism Behind Surge In Rightwing Hate Groups

    The Southern Poverty Law Center, which monitors rightwing hate groups, reports that “anti-government militia and ‘patriot’ groups … mushroomed at an ‘astonishing’ rate last year,” and says the rising popularity of these groups raises “grave concern” about the potential for domestic terrorism.

    The SPLC report says it counted 512 militias and “related groups” in 2009, up from 149 the year before. And the movement now has “a layer of racism” that was “largely absent” a decade ago. SPLC sees the election of a black president as one of the main drivers of growth in rightwing hate groups.

    SPLC also noted, “The ‘tea parties’ and similar groups that have sprung up in recent months … are shot through with … radical ideas, conspiracy theories and racism,” and said media influences like Fox News and Glenn Beck are helping to mainstream these ideas.

    http://www.aolnews.com/nation/.....s/19379350

    Roger Rabbit Commentary: Yesterday the Two Stooges (Cynical and Puddy) defended the “free speech” of rightwing hate groups by asking who has been hurt. Well, the IRS worker who was killed in Joe Stack’s airborne attack against the Texas IRS building, for one. The SPLC points out others: killings of law enforcement officers, assassination plots against the president, a shooting rampage by a white supremacist in Brockton, Mass., and arrests in “a series of bomb cases.”

    It’s a silly argument because no one suggests curtailing the speech of rightwing haters. In fact, that uber-liberal group, the ACLU, regularly defends the speech and assembly rights of Nazis, Klanners, and other rightwing haters.

    All we’re saying is the American public should reject the racist, xenophobic, and incendiary ideology of these rightwing hate groups. Our citizens should simply turn their backs on them, that’s all.

    Now watch the Two Stooges call this comment an “attack on free speech” …

  95. 95

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Tuesday, 3/2/10 at 9:28 am

    @93 I see Cynical has joined the long and growing list of wingnuts who can’t spell three-letter words like “off.”

  96. 96

    Mark Centz spews:

    Tuesday, 3/2/10 at 9:32 am

    84. Emily spews:
    Puddy @41:
    Emily… Apparently you just accept the Pellets from the Dumb Bunny without knowing the facts.
    Did you actually read what I said?

    Emily, reading comprehension is not one of their strengths. It wouldn’t be polite to dwell on that, so please do.

    89. Roger Rabbit spews:
    @73 Bunning also blocked extended unemployment benefits for 1.1 million unemployed American workers whose benefits ran out this weekend. What an asshole! But the larger question here is, why can ONE multimillionaire ex-baseball player senator from a rathole state overrule the majority of 100 senators? That’s not democracy, or even tyranny of the minority, it’s tyranny of the one. The system needs to be changed.

    Now Roger, just because they send nitwits to Congress, that’s no reason to smear the entire state, which is beautiful and is the home of some very lovely people. We have Doc Hastings and Cathy McMorris Rodgers to live down, after all. But yes, one Senator vetos are an abuse of the system. But maybe the majority leadership should actually use parliamentary procedures right back at them. Or maybe not give the minority the benefit of earmarked funds they vote against all across the board. Bunning knows about the inside fastball high and tight, he was an NL guy before the AL adopted the DH. No Federal funds for Kentucky if he wants it that way, and apparently he does.

  97. 97

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Tuesday, 3/2/10 at 9:54 am

    @96 I’m sorry, but any state that elects someone like Bunning is a rathole.

  98. 98

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Tuesday, 3/2/10 at 9:55 am

    If we’ve gotta have one-senator rule, then let’s veto the Republicans’ wars. We should be able to find one vote for that, even among the spineless Senate Democrats.

  99. 99

    Mark Centz spews:

    Tuesday, 3/2/10 at 10:12 am

    If we’ve gotta have one-senator rule, then let’s veto the Republicans’ wars. We should be able to find one vote for that, even among the spineless Senate Democrats.

    Fat chance. The Republicans, unlike the Democrats, are disciplined and unified. They’re positively Leninist in their zeal and application of party line and party purity. That’s both their strength and weakness. They’d never let the a single senator get away with this. Howl away trolls, we know more about the deficiencies of our delegation than you ever will.

  100. 100

    YLB spews:

    Tuesday, 3/2/10 at 10:55 am

    associating two fine ladies

    LMAO!!! One of which is a proven “he/she”.. and the other? Again, the MO speaks for itself.

    Well I got nothing against those of ambiguous gender but I thought all you right wing freaks had a problem with that – it was “unnatural” or “sinful” or some such crap.

    Not for you fiend.. As long it talks the right wing bullshit line (shit, fuhgetabout action)

    YOU glomm onto it..

    What a fool!

  101. 101

    YLB spews:

    Tuesday, 3/2/10 at 11:05 am

    using Darryl as his reason.

    LMAO!!!

    Darryl has access to all the ip addresses. He can spot a freak in a few seconds if he cares to.

    He outed Sue!

    A documented “he/she” troll. That’s your “fine lady”..

    LMAO @ YOU FOOL!

  102. 102

    Puddybud is Sad my friend died spews:

    Tuesday, 3/2/10 at 12:38 pm

    First time to dissmember ylb arschloch…

    What would you do without Darryl’s help dumb brick? Puddy doesn’t get Darryl’s help yet Puddy spots dopplegangers all the time.

    So what does that say dumb brick? Uhhhhh… ylb arschloch is still a dumb brick….

  103. 103

    Puddybud is Sad my friend died spews:

    Tuesday, 3/2/10 at 12:42 pm

    Oh my… Odumba jockstapped pay as you go AKA pay-go Feb 13, 2010. Now when called on it the DUMMOCRAPTS and Odumba don’t wanna implement pay-go after all. And the slobbering libtardo MSM forgets this YouTube, just a few weeks ago.

    Damn AMAZING! Another rake meet face eh HA Libtardos?

  104. 104

    Puddybud is Sad my friend died spews:

    Tuesday, 3/2/10 at 12:44 pm

    correctnotright still calling Rush a racist, when Puddy already proved what his comments were and those he never made were promulgated by the libtardo MSM. Notice correctnotright doesn’t comment on the issues, he goes into ad hominem attack mode. That’s all he has left.

    So correctnotright… which comment are you screaming about now?

  105. 105

    Puddybud is Sad my friend died spews:

    Tuesday, 3/2/10 at 12:49 pm

    Emily… From the Dumb Bunny…

    Americans who now face going hungry this weekend? A Republican mean bastard, that’s who.

    Yes Puddy read what you said. Puddy didn’t comment on Bunning’s baseball career. Great deflection. YOU DIDN’T COMMENT ON THE REST OF THE DUMB BUNNY’S COMMENT. (airplanes zoom over her head at supersonic speeds). The Dumb Bunny was screaming at Bunning being a “mean bastard” for making Senate DUMMOCRAPTS live by their own pay-go rules approved by Odumba.

    Live long Emily. HA needs more leftist idiots like you. Maybe you can learn to be a female dumb brick then you and ylb arschloch could be a matched set.

    And of course Mark NoCentz once again didn’t comprehend anything at anytime anywhere on HA.

  106. 106

    Puddybud is Sad my friend died spews:

    Tuesday, 3/2/10 at 12:52 pm

    Mark Centz,

    You are uninformed. You didn’t remember Feb 13, 2010. You didn’t remember Turban Dick Durbin and Bernie I’m a Socialist Sanders comments.

    Nuff SAID Sucka!!!!!

  107. 107

    Puddybud is Sad my friend died spews:

    Tuesday, 3/2/10 at 12:55 pm

    N@91,

    Tasty!

  108. 108

    correctnotright spews:

    Tuesday, 3/2/10 at 1:00 pm

    @104: You proved squat as usual…Rush made how many racist comments and you still carry his water…..

    The government’s been taking care of [young blacks] their whole lives.” On February 1, 2007, Limbaugh responded to a Reuters report about a University of Chicago study that found that “a majority of young blacks feel alienated from today’s government” by asserting, “Why would that be? The government’s been taking care of them their whole lives.”
    “The days of [minorities] not having any power are over, and they are angry.” On June 4, Limbaugh said, “This has been the argument the Reverend Jackson has proffered throughout my life — that it’s impossible for minorities to be racist because they don’t have any power. Well, president of the United States. We’re talking now about a Supreme Court justice. The days of them not having any power are over, and they are angry. And they want to use their power as a means of retribution. That’s what Obama’s about, gang. He’s angry; he’s going to cut this country down to size. He’s going to make it pay for all the multicultural mistakes that it has made — its mistreatment of minorities. I know exactly what’s going on here.”

    “[M]inorities never do anything for which they have to apologize.” On April 12, 2007, Limbaugh criticized Sharpton and Rev. Jesse Jackson for refusing to apologize to three former members of the Duke University men’s lacrosse team who were accused of rape in March 2006 — all charges were dropped on April 11, 2007 — and asserted that “minorities never do anything for which they have to apologize.” Presumably referring to the decision by CBS Radio and MSNBC to stop airing Imus in the Morning following controversial comments by host Don Imus, Limbaugh stated: “Everybody’s demanding that everybody apologize in this country for simply breathing. It’s getting to the point some people are not allowed to breathe or exhale, or make syllables.” Limbaugh went on to complain about the protests Sharpton and Jackson led condemning Imus’ remarks, saying: “They’re members of the minority. Don’t ever forget that this is the case. Minorities, victims, members of groups, are allowed to do anything to address their grievances and to get noticed, because … they’re so oppressed.”
    Limbaugh: “The media has been very desirous that a black quarterback do well.” In 2003, Limbaugh resigned from his job as an ESPN commentator after saying that Philadelphia Eagles quarterback Donovan McNabb hasn’t “been that good from the get-go” and “got a lot of credit for the performance of this team that he didn’t deserve,” because “[t]he media has been very desirous that a black quarterback do well.” After the Eagles reached Super Bowl XXXIX in 2005, Limbaugh returned to making racial comments about McNabb, saying, “There’s no question McNabb has improved and I’m happy to see it,” but that “when the defense … was propping the Eagles up,” the media “were still giving McNabb credit — because there’s this social hope.”

    Limbaugh says “NFL all too often looks like a game between the Bloods and the Crips.” On January 19, 2007, Limbaugh stated: “Look it, let me put it to you this way. The NFL all too often looks like a game between the Bloods and the Crips without any weapons. There I said it.”

    Limbaugh declares basketball “the favorite sport of gangs.” Discussing the government’s attempts to curb violence, Limbaugh told a caller on October 7: “It’s not reasonable that you should understand the insanity that local and state and federal bureaucracies are doing. It’s perfectly normal and understandable that none of what they do would make sense to you. My question — OK, a 1 cent sales tax to fight gang violence. What do you spend the money on to fight gang violence? Afterschool program — don’t we already have afterschool programs? Don’t we already have — what do you call it, extracurricular events? Midnight basketball — I mean, we’ve done it all. We’ve taken the favorite sport of gangs, and we put it at midnight to get them on the basketball court. We had 100,000 new cops with Clinton — we’ve done it all. And the problem still is out of control. Liberalism doesn’t work.”
    Limbaugh invented “racial component” to Hackett’s decision to withdraw from Ohio primary race. During the 2006 Democratic primaries, Limbaugh invented a racial element to explain Iraq war veteran Paul Hackett’s departure from the Ohio Democratic Senate primary race against then-Rep. Sherrod Brown, asserting, “And don’t forget, Sherrod Brown is black. There’s a racial component here, too.” In fact, Brown is white — a point on which Limbaugh was corrected later in the program.
    Limbaugh on Survivor series: “African-American tribe” worst swimmers, Hispanics “will do things other people won’t do.” On August 23, 2006, Limbaugh suggested that the competition in a season of CBS’ Survivor, in which contestants were reportedly divided into competing “tribes” by ethnicity, “is not going to be fair if there’s a lot of water events.” In support of this assertion, he cited a March 2, 2006, HealthDay article reporting that “young blacks — especially males — are much more likely to drown in pools than whites.” He later added that Hispanics have “probably shown the most survival tactics,” that they “have shown a remarkable ability to cross borders,” and that they can “do it without water for a long time, they don’t get apprehended, and they will do things other people won’t do.” On his September 29, 2006, show, Limbaugh claimed “[t]here can only be one reason” Survivor scrapped “segregated” competition after two episodes — “the white tribe had to be winning.”
    Limbaugh suggested Colin Powell only supported Obama because of race. After Limbaugh asserted that Colin Powell should leave the Republican Party because of his support for Obama, Rep. Tom Price (R-GA) said on MSNBC’s Morning Joe that “[i]t’s not up to Rush Limbaugh to decide who ought to be in the Republican Party.” Limbaugh responded on his May 18 show that all Democrats “had to do was nominate an African-American and [they’ve] got Colin Powell.”
    Limbaugh: Gates is an “angry racist.” On July 27, Limbaugh said Harvard professor Henry Louis Gates is an “angry racist.”
    Limbaugh called illegal immigrants an “invasive species.” Referring to an April 1, 2005, federal court ruling that prohibited shipping boats from dumping of ballast water containing “invasive species,” including some types of mollusks, into U.S. waters, Limbaugh described illegal immigrants as an “invasive species” that U.S. courts willingly permit to enter the country.
    Limbaugh repeatedly calls Native Americans “Injuns.” Media Matters for America documented at least four separate instances of Limbaugh using this slur on his program.
    Limbaugh says Democrats’ interest in Darfur is securing black “voting bloc.” On August 21, 2007, Limbaugh claimed that Democrats “want to get us out of Iraq, but they can’t wait to get us into Darfur.” He continued: “There are two reasons. What color is the skin of the people in Darfur? It’s black. And who do the Democrats really need to keep voting for them? If they lose a significant percentage of this voting bloc, they’re in trouble.” A caller responded, “The black population,” to which Limbaugh said, “Right.”
    Limbaugh says that if “feminazis” had remembered to oppose “affirmative action for black guys … they wouldn’t face the situation they face today.” On May 21, 2008, Limbaugh said that “one of the objectives of the feminazis over the last 20, 25 years has been to dominate the public education system so as to remove the competitive nature of boys. You know, there’s a crisis of young man-boy education in the schools. And they did this on purpose, to eliminate male competition in the work force. This is part of feminazi grand plan.” Limbaugh then said, “They forgot affirmative action for black guys. And because of that, every bit of their plan has gone up in smoke now, because they — if — they had to come out in favor of affirmative action for black guys, and that’s — see, this is one of the things that really irritates the women. And there are women all over this country fit to be tied — trust me on this. … [L]iberals eventually are going to be devoured by their own policies. And it has happened here. Because Barack Obama is an affirmative action candidate.” He concluded, “So, it’s just — they just forgot that one thing: affirmative action for black guys. And if they had remembered to oppose that, then they wouldn’t face the situation they face today.”

    all these and other quotes have been documented by media matters:
    http://mediamatters.org/research/200910130049

    Nice playin’ with you Puddy (the guy who supports racist Limbaugh).

    Once again you play the fool…are you too stupid to know Rush is a racist or do you just ignore it?

    Can you not read? Have you no ability to figure out that all of these statements (and many more) are racist?
    Or maybe these recent statements?

    We are being told that we have to hope [Obama] succeeds, that we have to bend over, grab the ankles … because his father was black.” After Obama’s inauguration, Limbaugh said during an interview with Sean Hannity on Fox News that “[r]acism in this country is the exclusive province of the left. We’re witnessing racism all this week that led up to the inauguration. We’re being told that we have to hope he succeeds, that we have to bend over, grab the ankles. Bend over forward, backward, whichever, because his father was black, because this is the first black president. We’ve got to accept this. The racism that everybody thinks exists on our side of the aisle has been on full display throughout their primary campaign. So I think they’ve done a great job, the media has, of covering up his deficiencies.”

    “I do believe” Obama is an “angry black guy.” Responding to accusations that he had called Obama “an angry black man,” Limbaugh said on July 27 “they’re finally hearing me — he’s an angry black guy. I do believe that about the president. I do believe he’s angry; I think his wife is angry. All liberals are enraged all the time anyways. They’re always mad.” Previously, Limbaugh had said that Obama is “one angry guy.”

    “[I]n Obama’s America, the white kids now get beat up with the black kids cheering.” On September 15, Limbaugh said: “It’s Obama’s America, is it not? Obama’s America, white kids getting beat up on school buses now. I mean, you put your kids on a school bus, you expect — you expect safety. But in Obama’s America, the white kids now get beat up with the black kids cheering, ‘Yay, right on, right on, right on, right on.’ And of course everybody says, ‘Oh, the white kid deserved it. He was born a racist, he’s white.’ Newsweek magazine told us this. We know that white students are destroying civility on buses. White students destroying civility in classrooms all over America. White congressmen destroying civility in the House of Representatives. We can redistribute students while we redistribute their parents’ wealth. I mean, we can just redistribute everything. Just return the white students to their rightful place, their own bus, with bars on the windows and armed guards. They’re racist. They get what they deserve. Newsweek magazine told us this — post-racial America. I mean, I wonder if Obama’s going to come to the defense of the assailants the way he did his friend Skip Gates up there at Harvard.”

    “Obama’s entire economic program is reparations.” On June 22, Limbaugh said, “What they don’t know is that Obama’s entire economic program is reparations. If I were [Al] Sharpton, if I’d been guest-hosting Sharpton’s show, and I got a call like that, somebody complaining, I’d say, ‘No, hey, hey, hey. Shh, shh. Let me tell you the truth here. Everything in the stimulus plan, every plan he’s got is reparations. He gonna take from the rich, he’s gonna take from the — he’s gonna give it to you. It just can’t happen overnight. Be patient.’ That’s what’s — redistribution of wealth, reparations, returning the nation’s wealth to its rightful owners, whatever you want to call it, it’s reparations.”

    Obama is “more African in his roots than he is American” and is “behaving like an African colonial despot.” After reading extensively from an American Thinker column smearing Obama, Limbaugh said on June 26 that Obama is “more African in his roots than he is American” and is “behaving like an African colonial despot.”

    Obama is “Halfrican-American.” On January 24, 2007, Limbaugh referred to Obama and actress Halle Berry as “Halfrican-American[s],

    Yeah, Rush Limbaugh is an out and out racist and you carry his water….it shows a lot about your character.

  109. 109

    correctnotright spews:

    Tuesday, 3/2/10 at 1:02 pm

    Notice that Puddy spouts the same old lies….and keeps trying to carry water for racists.

    Any more excuses Puddyfool?

  110. 110

    Puddybud is Sad my friend died spews:

    Tuesday, 3/2/10 at 1:22 pm

    Golly correct-and-not-right, Media Morons. The same peeps who said up and down Tiggg Palin was Bristol’s child. You want Puddy to comment on their crap? Where does Puddy start?

    Well Odumba being angry… We all saw that last week at the health care summit. One angry individual attacking everyone who wasn’t DUMMOCRAPT.

    On Donovan McNabb.. Steven A Smith (personally met him on the ESPN set four years ago) said similar things about McNabb and he got a pass cuz he’s black. Also Steven called out fools like you over the St Louis Rams issue.

    Regarding the Jackson/Sharpton issue and the Duke accused but innocent lacrosse players… Rush was right… Shaprton apologized while Jackson to this date has not.

    Regarding the

    “Why would that be? The government’s been taking care of them their whole lives.”
    “The days of [minorities] not having any power are over, and they are angry.” On June 4, Limbaugh said, “This has been the argument the Reverend Jackson has proffered throughout my life — that it’s impossible for minorities to be racist because they don’t have any power. Well, president of the United States. We’re talking now about a Supreme Court justice. The days of them not having any power are over, and they are angry. And they want to use their power as a means of retribution. That’s what Obama’s about, gang. He’s angry; he’s going to cut this country down to size. He’s going to make it pay for all the multicultural mistakes that it has made — its mistreatment of minorities. I know exactly what’s going on here.”

    You forgot when Odumba was asked by Charlie Gibson in the 2008 preznit debates how it’s shown lowering capital gains taxes increases federal tax revenue, Odumba said he wanted to redistribute wealth instead. That’s an angry comment correct-and-not-right.

    So much more but why explain to someone so closed minded you use Media Morons?

  111. 111

    Puddybud is Sad my friend died spews:

    Tuesday, 3/2/10 at 1:23 pm

    Same old lies correct-and-not-right? So pay-go wasn’t passed and approved by Odumba on 2/13/2010?

    Do tell us all about it?

  112. 112

    Mark Centz spews:

    Tuesday, 3/2/10 at 2:13 pm

    106.Puddybud dishonors the memory of his deceased friend spews:
    Mark Centz,
    You are uninformed. You didn’t remember Feb 13, 2010. You didn’t remember Turban Dick Durbin and Bernie I’m a Socialist Sanders comments.
    Nuff SAID Sucka!!!!!

    Yes, it’s true I am unfamiliar with these alleged comments, which is why I have asked you to amplify your handwaving with a link or at least a hint, twice now. Since you’re pointedly ignoring that request, I’ll assume it’s a lie. I thought your were made of better stuff than Sifl, but I make many mistakes.

  113. 113

    YLB spews:

    Tuesday, 3/2/10 at 2:34 pm

    What would you do without Darryl’s help

    Calling right wing bullshit for what it is moron! In whatever shape or form it takes…

  114. 114

    Puddybud is Sad my friend died spews:

    Tuesday, 3/2/10 at 2:48 pm

    Mark Full of NoCentz,

    See the link in #103. Too bad facts are like the wind to you… You can seem to see them.

  115. 115

    correctnotright spews:

    Tuesday, 3/2/10 at 2:48 pm

    hahhaa puddy …good try..once again you are caught in an out and out lie, and try to weasel out of it.

    All those are DOCUMENTED racist statements by Rush Limbaugh.

    You have not refuted one of them.

    Oh, and you are confused…Media matters never said “up and down” that Trigg was Palin’s baby…..in fact, if you could actually think and read then you would have found this:

    One of the few legitimate grievances Sarah Palin had regarding the way she was treated during the 2008 presidential campaign centered on the ludicrous questions about her son Trig’s birth. There was never any real reason to question whether she was, indeed, Trig’s mother, and the few online media types who flogged the bogus story line certainly didn’t do themselves any credit.

    http://mediamatters.org/blog/200912040014

    Wow, you are not only dimwitted but you also “invent” facts. Thanks for showing your true colors on racism…it is only racism when democrats do it….otherwise you have a double standard and give a free pass.

    Hypocrite.

  116. 116

    Puddybud is Sad my friend died spews:

    Tuesday, 3/2/10 at 2:48 pm

    Once again the arschloch@113 steps to the plate and strikes out.

    Such a dumb brick.

  117. 117

    Puddybud is Sad my friend died spews:

    Tuesday, 3/2/10 at 2:51 pm

    All those are DOCUMENTED racist statements by Rush Limbaugh.

    WTF correct-and-not-right? Caught in what lie fool? Documented by Media Morons? The ones who continued the Trigg/Bristol lie? Oh yeah such a great libtardo source. Why haven’t the slobbering libtardo MSM run with them correct-and-not-right? Oh maybe it’s all a bunch of “hot air” like 98% of your HA Libtardo commentary. Oh… wait globull warming…

    Why hasn’t correct-and-not-right blamed the earthquake on globull warming? Al Gorebasm said the molten core is millions of degrees hot!

  118. 118

    correctnotright spews:

    Tuesday, 3/2/10 at 2:53 pm

    Poor Puddy: Keep telling us how your racist heroes like Rush Limbaugh are really “good people”, and how Dick Cheney is a “good” person too. I love that….

    In the meantime, we all laugh at how ignorant you are and how you argue like a third grader with nothing to back up what you say.

    Facts….you have none. Wind, you have plenty.

  119. 119

    correctnotright spews:

    Tuesday, 3/2/10 at 2:55 pm

    Poor Puddy….still have not come up with anything to refute all of those racist quotes…..so you attack the source with false information?

    How sad that you are reduced to such grade-school level tactics and can’t recognize how foolish you look. Grow up. Admit when you are wrong. Be and adult instead of a juvenile clown.

  120. 120

    correctnotright spews:

    Tuesday, 3/2/10 at 2:57 pm

    You claimed all the quotes were fabricated….snopes documents these quotes and quotes…media matters for the documentation.

    ooops, Puddy loses again.

    http://www.snopes.com/politics/quotes/limbaugh.asp

  121. 121

    Mark Centz spews:

    Tuesday, 3/2/10 at 3:01 pm

    114. P Puddybud dishonors the memory of his deceased friend
    spews:
    Mark Full of NoCentz,
    See the link in #103. Too bad facts are like the wind to you… You can seem to see them.

    I saw that link, and on the other thread I acknowledged that Bunning likely has a point on the paygo issue. However, the link or summary I have asked about was about Bunning/Durbin, so it would seems that facts are like the breaking wind to you.

  122. 122

    Puddybud is Sad my friend died spews:

    Tuesday, 3/2/10 at 3:37 pm

    From Snopes… since you brought it up. Many of the comments there are not reprehensible.

    Puddy was referring to the following statements put forth by the media which then had to retract them.

    “You know who deserves a posthumous Medal of Honor? James Earl Ray. We miss you, James. Godspeed.” Rush never said that one. Already debunked.

    “I mean, let’s face it, we didn’t have slavery in this country for over 100 years because it was a bad thing. Quite the opposite: slavery built the South. I’m not saying we should bring it back; I’m just saying it had its merits. For one thing, the streets were safer after dark.” Rush never said that one. Already debunked.

    “They’re 12 percent of the population. Who the hell cares?” Rush never said that one. Already debunked.

    Nelson Mandela — who was bankrolled by communists for a time Read Nelson’s autobiography. Want to borrow Puddy’s copy?

    “The NAACP should have riot rehearsal. They should get a liquor store and practice robberies.” Rush never said that one. Already debunked.

    BTW correctnotright… Puddy would say the same thing? Would that make Puddy a racist?

    Your peeps claim we all look alike and that’s how many innocent black men have been placed on death row only to be exonerated by DNA evidence. What say you correctnotright?

  123. 123

    Puddybud is Sad my friend died spews:

    Tuesday, 3/2/10 at 3:51 pm

    Hey Mark Centz…

    Do your own damn due diligence on Bunning/Durbin… It’s all out there for your viewing pleasure. Use Google.

    Check the Congressional Record. Or Roll Call. Or NY Times. OR MSNBC (OM). Or Fox News.

    Hint Durbin said the Porkulus moneys are already “earmarked”…

    Butt being as stupid as they come Centz needs ASSistance.

  124. 124

    Puddybud is Sad my friend died spews:

    Tuesday, 3/2/10 at 3:54 pm

    BTW did you notice how correctnottobright moved the conversation from Bunning and paygo to Rush Limbaugh? Puddy guesses correctnotright loves his Odormann and the odor from Odormann is sticking to correctnotright.

  125. 125

    Mark Centz spews:

    Tuesday, 3/2/10 at 4:18 pm

    @123 Puddybud is a handwaving liar

    Tried the power of the Google the first time you brought up the subject, there’s a lot of noise with the objections going on, so…. I asked a specific question, citing my lack of familiarity with the whatever it is you were waving your hands about. Which, you ignored, and then after the second request you talked around. Now you can go on at length about The Google and the various places where I might even find said conversation, and even a rather vague hint. No, sorry, you want me to respond to something that you think is worth commenting on and refuse to answer directly when civilly asked? Then you tell me that it’s up to me to discover the subject of whatever it is that you’re waving your hands about. Why should I waste time looking for a needle in a haystack when I have no reason to believe there is a needle? You’ve wasted enough of my time as it is.

  126. 126

    Puddybud is Sad my friend died spews:

    Tuesday, 3/2/10 at 4:59 pm

    Mark Centz, no hand waving at all. Remember when Puddy gave you the link on Jewish girls you immediatly claimed Jewish boys.

    You need to look it up or ask ylb arschloch. He can find anything on leftist blogs. Puddy gave you many hints.

    You don’t like it too bad!

  127. 127

    Mark Centz spews:

    Tuesday, 3/2/10 at 5:27 pm

    Remember when Puddy gave you the link on Jewish girls you immediatly claimed Jewish boys.

    Oh certainly, and I acknowledged my error immediately upon the learning of it- I could look it up and discover for myself that you had not lied.
    You know, if you really are telling the truth, that is, if whatever it is about a Durbin/Bunning conversation you refer to is embarrassing to Durbin, then the more you speak of it in detail, the more more we lefties have to be bear as our shame. But since you’re lying, that isn’t possible in this instance. No, Puddy is more interested in spreading vitriol about liberals and other Democrats than promoting the truth. Even if it’s just telling lies or innuendo, you do not seek to persuade but to promote anger and hated. This from a man seeking spiritual growth? Disappointing. Unless you’re lying about that as well.

  128. 128

    Mark Centz spews:

    Tuesday, 3/2/10 at 5:46 pm

    Ah, and Bunning stands down.

  129. 129

    YLB spews:

    Tuesday, 3/2/10 at 6:16 pm

    Puddy spots dopplegangers all the time.

    Yeah right moron! That’s why you called Sue the “he/she” a “fine lady”..

    Some skillz…

    Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz….

    I call moronic bullshit..

  130. 130

    Puddybud is Sad my friend died spews:

    Tuesday, 3/2/10 at 9:46 pm

    ylb arschloch… Sue is a fine lady just like you are an arschloch!

    Nuff SAID Sucka!

  131. 131

    Puddybud is Sad my friend died spews:

    Tuesday, 3/2/10 at 10:03 pm

    Mark Centz is a horsesASS. Puddy isn’t your personal slave. Puddy doesn’t do your bidding. It seems you are the only one here who is having a cow. Look for it yourself. You can find all of Durbin’s comments on the ‘Nets, and you can’t find it?

    Puddy suggested the arschloch as your personal gofer. Gofer it!

    Here are two hints Centzless!

    Senator DURBIN:

    Sen. DURBIN:

  132. 132

    proud leftist spews:

    Tuesday, 3/2/10 at 10:03 pm

    Puddy,
    Whenever you say, “Nuff SAID Sucka!” we know you are bailing out of an argument you have lost.

  133. 133

    proud leftist spews:

    Tuesday, 3/2/10 at 10:05 pm

    Puddy,
    Neither hypocrisy nor idiocy are family values.

  134. 134

    Mark Centz spews:

    Tuesday, 3/2/10 at 10:55 pm

    131. Puddybud dishonors the memory of his deceased friend spews:
    Mark Centz is a horsesASS. Puddy isn’t your personal slave. Puddy doesn’t do your bidding. It seems you are the only one here who is having a cow. Look for it yourself. You can find all of Durbin’s comments on the ‘Nets, and you can’t find it?

    I told you, Puddy, I stopped looking for it. I don’t care anymore, link it if you think I or anyone else should care about how Durbin said something shameful, but as far as I’m concerned you’re just telling lies unless you back it up. Which you haven’t, we all see. You’ve got nothing.

    And your Senators looked at the optics of opposing a small expenditure extending the unemployment bennies (possibly breaking the paygo rule, pending further detailed examination), realized that looking like the heartless bastards they are was bad news politically, and back down. Amazing, they’re learning how to act like Democrats. Another year or two maybe they’ll be housebroken. We’ll see about that too.

  135. 135

    Puddybud is Sad my friend died spews:

    Wednesday, 3/3/10 at 4:30 am

    Puddy,
    Whenever you say, “Nuff SAID Sucka!” we know you are bailing out of an argument you have lost.

    Puddy already explained Nuff SAID Sucka above @72. You forgot already? 24 Hour Libtardo Memory disease?

  136. 136

    Puddybud is Sad my friend died spews:

    Wednesday, 3/3/10 at 4:33 am

    Mark Centz,

    Durbin said No. That’s all Puddy wrote.

  137. 137

    correctnotright spews:

    Wednesday, 3/3/10 at 7:39 am

    @122 Poor Puddy

    You call that a counter-argument? hahaha

    You disputed exactly ZERO of the racist quotes I posted from media matters. Media matters is the source for the factual Rush quotes from Snopes. Media matters is where the quotes that you cannot dispute come from. Those quotes are numerous and racist. You support Rush and his racism.

    So you then must either admit that Rush is a racist and that you are defending him and wrong about what he has said….or otherwise, you can admit that you are a total hypocrite and defend racists.

    Which is it?

    You do the same with Bush and with Cheney … when caught in a lie you change the topic, weasel, make points about other things (non-relevant points) but refuse to admit the obvious … either you are lying, wrong or you are a stupid dupe of the right wing repeating their incorrect fabrications.

    Which is it?

  138. 138

    Mr. Cynical spews:

    Wednesday, 3/3/10 at 8:02 am

    Correctnotright–
    You disputed Zero of the multitude of racist quotes towards Puddy by your leftist brethren here at HA–
    Headless lucy, steve & of course, YLB.
    Oh and what about Roger Rabbit calling Puddy a “FLYING MONKEY”??
    Where were you on that?

    Seems like you ought to have enough sense to clean up the racist BS in your own cesspool before you conveniently go outside…that is, if racism is really, truly an issue for you.
    I’d say you are more about trying to discredit folks you disagree with…than being truly concerned abour racism BY YOUR LACK OF ACTION!

  139. 139

    correctnotright spews:

    Wednesday, 3/3/10 at 10:19 am

    Klynical fool:

    Umm, you are wrong and a liar – every racist diatribe I have seen I have disputed…take your moronic crap elsewhere. If I did not see it, then I am not responsible for calling it out. Period.

    You are a fool and an idiot – just trying to stir trouble.

    Poor Puddy is having trouble defending himself…and you jump in withg lies.

    Go away fool.

  140. 140

    YLB spews:

    Wednesday, 3/3/10 at 10:05 pm

    Sue is a fine lady

    LMAO!! A troll who calls herself “jon” one moment and “sue” the next is a “fine lady”..

    I could not care less about that “he/she” troll but it’s pretty obvious that you’re an idiot..

    Oh and didn’t you claim once that “sue” was progressive??? You’re a laugh a minute fool…

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