“The David Goldstein Show” tonight on Newsradio 710-KIRO

Tonight on “The David Goldstein Show”, 7PM to 10PM on Newsradio 710-KIRO:

7PM: Rail or Roads?
Joel Connelly joins me for the hour to discuss our region’s transportation planning (or as some might say, the lack thereof.) A recent poll shows 61-percent of voters support the $17.5 billion Sound Transit/RTID “Roads & Transit” package scheduled to be on the ballot this November, and I’m going to look Joel in the eye and make him like it too.

8PM: Is Karl Rove liability?
I mean, to the Bush administration. (He’s always been a liability to the American people.)

9PM: What’s goin’ down in Oregon?
TJ from Loaded Orygun joins us for our monthly update on what’s going on south of the border.

Tune in tonight (or listen to the live stream) and give me a call: 1-877-710-KIRO (5476).

Comments

  1. 1

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Rasputin’s antics got the Tsar shot. Hey, I’m just sayin’ … some friends are worse than enemies.

  2. 2

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    I’d like to know how the hell WSDOT can spend $4.4 billion on a bunch of concrete pontoons.

  3. 4

    gs spews:

    RR

    These folks can spend 4.4 Billion on talking about building a bunch of concrete pillars.

    It’s all Junion Jhelp, no furry little fella’s diggin pontoon holes for free allowed here.

    Stay toon, somthin mite git bilt dis century

  4. 5

    Richard Pope spews:

    At least the Northwest Regressive Institute likes the transit funding idea, since it is based on regressive taxes.

  5. 6

    Proud To Be An Ass spews:

    @3, dikkie pope: “That is what happens when you elect Democrats.”

    Actually, what happens when you elect democrats, at least since 1932, is you get a government that actually works and serves the people. Kinda-of a twofer if you ask me.

    @2: Roger, you might actually look at the cost projections to see how sound they are, but $4.4b ain’t what it used to be considering inflation, disruption, ecological considerations, and yes, even the price of concrete (tried to get any lately?). WDOT is not proposing a bridge to nowhere over the Snake River in Asotin County ya’ know.

    Questioning the need or efficacy to try and pave our way out of congestion is another matter–but attacking the projected cost is just playing into the hands of lunatics like dikkie pope. Either the anticipated cost is “unrealistic” or “unaffordable” or “government waste and inefficiency” will gaurantee cost overruns. You can’t win either way, so why play their juvenile games?

  6. 7

    headless lucy spews:

    Richard Pope is right. $4.4 billion could build a lot of bombs — and God knows we never have enough of them to protect our freedom from a handful of Jihadists in the caves of Afghanistan.

  7. 8

    Dan Rather spews:

    Proud To Be An Ass says:

    @3, dikkie pope: “That is what happens when you elect Democrats.”

    Actually, what happens when you elect democrats, at least since 1932, is you get a government that actually works and serves the people. Kinda-of a twofer if you ask me.

    The perfect example of what you get with democrats is our current public school system. An absolute failure from top to bottom. Liberals fuck up everything they touch. France is another good example.

  8. 9

    Proud To Be An Ass spews:

    @7: Yes, dikkie pope is right alright. Far, far, far, right. As for cogency, correctness, or accuracy of analyasis, well, that’s problematical at best.

  9. 10

    Proud To Be An Ass spews:

    @8: Actually, what you get with republicans are wars like Iraq: Endless, expensive, debilitating, totally lacking in justification, complete and utter failure.

    Seattle schools? In trouble, but actually comparison.

    France? Yeah sure. I’ll bet you’d wet your pants if you called De Gaulle an ‘effete liberal’ to his face. But, conveniently, he is long dead, as are all wingnut arguments.

  10. 11

    Proud To Be An Ass spews:

    10: correction: that’s “Seattle schools? In trouble, but actually NO comparison.”

    Damn my drunken fingers.

    PS: Dan, republicans are fucked to begin with. Fucking up is preordained with them. Look at Texas. Fucked from top to bottom. Conservatarian paradise with oil depletion allowance, and they still fuck it up.

  11. 12

    Dan Rather spews:

    How is Texas fucked up? It is one of the richest in terms of economy, and has the most millionaires per capita than any place on earth. You moonbats and your drivel. hehehehe

  12. 13

    Dan Rather spews:

    On any given day there is a higher probability of an American getting killed in a liberal run big city than there ever will be in Iraq. People die every day because of incompetent liberals in high places.

  13. 14

    RightEqualsStupid spews:

    Here’s what happens when you let Publicans steal office…

    1) You loooooose the respect of the rest of the world
    2) Your country becomes the world’s laughing stock
    3) You get a world full of terrorists who want to kill us all
    4) You get a bunch of money-grubbing assholes who are willing to let your kids die in a trumped up war for oil
    5) You get a group of people who are utterly devoted to destroying the environment
    6) You get a country where laws are made to stop women from having abortions so their babies can be left to die because they can’t afford health care
    7) You get a government where politics trumps safety, security and sanity
    8) You get a bunch of chickshit chickenhawks who, while they were themselves afraid to go to war when they had the chance, are willing to send your kids to die so their kids can remain rich and powerful
    9) You get a bunch of baby-raping, pervs who attack young boys in the name of Congress
    10) You get a bunch of cowardly idiots on the right teaching their inbred children that it’s okay to lie, cheat and steal as long as you’re a Publican

  14. 15

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @6 The new Tacoma Narrows suspension bridge cost only $849 million and it wasn’t built in 1960.

  15. 16

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @7 It’s true a billion bucks doesn’t go very far when you burn it and blow it up! Chump Chimp goes through that much in a couple days. We could pay for the bridge by taking a 1-week vacation from his Iraq fiasco. The troops could use a break, too.

  16. 17

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @8 “The perfect example of what you get with democrats is our current public school system. An absolute failure from top to bottom.”

    Let’s talk about that, because you’re a hypobolic liar of galactic proportions. I’m a public school product, as is nearly everyone else on this board. The vast majority of people educated by the public schools you so facilely deride hold jobs, perform useful work, earn a living, and pay taxes. Know how much education I would have got under your utopian notions of a capitalized and privatized education system? Absolutely none, because my bunny parents had little money and lots of bunnies! On the theory that a bad public school education is better than no education, and a good public school education is even better, I can say without fear of contradiction from any rationale being that taxpayer-financed universal public education is the greatest thing that ever happened in America. It made our modern economy possible; it made winning two world wars possible. Is the average public university as good as MIT or Harvard? No; but you don’t need an MIT or Harvard graduate for most managerial and professional jobs in the economy, any more than you need an Edison or Einstein to drive a bus or run a potato peeling machine. Our public schools give kids the basic reading, math, science, and reasoning skills needed to perform useful work. Should we make them better? Sure, if we can, with available resources. Do you improve our nation’s educational standards by eliminating public education and replacing it with exclusive private schools limited to those who can afford them? You are a fucking idiot! You are what a home-schooled society would look like.

  17. 18

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @10 As much as I detest Bush’s aggressive incursion into Iraq, I am constrained to point out that there is, in human history, ample precedent both for coveting oil and for taking it without compensation when it inconveniently happens to be located in someone else’s domain.

  18. 20

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @12 Texas has neither the richest economy, nor the most millionaires per capital. And it wouldn’t have any of either if God hadn’t bestowed hay and oil on Texas, which Texans had nothing to do with.

  19. 21

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @13 If you think Baghdad is safer than Seattle, why are you here instead of there? If you lack means, the HA fraternity will gladly take up a collection to send you there.

  20. 22

    Richard Pope spews:

    Roger Rabbit @ 21

    We could send him to New Orleans instead. Men of military age in New Orleans are much more likely to die of homicidal violence or accidents than they are to be killed by hostility or accidents while serving in the U.S. military.

    These facts don’t scare people away from visiting New Orleans. Probably because it is a more popular tourist venue than Baghdad, as well as much cheaper, easier and quicker to get there.

  21. 23

    Dan Rather spews:

    Roger Rabbit says:

    @13 If you think Baghdad is safer than Seattle, why are you here instead of there? If you lack means, the HA fraternity will gladly take up a collection to send you there.

    I am thinking South Central LA or Watts. Tell you what, you move there first and then get back to me on how well run a liberal city can be.

  22. 24

    Richard Pope spews:

    Roger Rabbit @ 16

    True, but it would only take a two day vacation from the Iraq fiasco to do this if the price of the new SR 520 bridge was reasonable.

  23. 25

    Dan Rather spews:

    17

    Try telling that to the 40% of Seattle parents who pass up on your beloved free public education for private schools. You and your ilk are assholes and dont give a shit about children or their education. Go Fuck yourself.

  24. 26

    FricknFrack, Seattle spews:

    14. RightEqualsStupid says: “Here’s what happens when you let Publicans steal office…”

    W.O.W.!!! You nailed that very neatly – danged impressive!

  25. 27

    Dan Rather spews:

    What makes this country great is low taxes and the right to keep all the money you make. It is called the US constitution and the free enterprise system idiot. No country on this planet does it better. Anyone who thinks the public school system made this country great must have been educated in the public schools. You are a dumbass.

  26. 28

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @23 Seattle and Boston are both about as liberal as any city can get, and both are pretty damned prosperous, thank you very much.

  27. 29

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Detroit, on the other hand, is an example of what unregulated capitalism does for a city: The jobs eventually go elsewhere; local revenues evaporate, services dwindle, and infrastructure falls into disrepair; people leave and homes are abandoned; and eventually what’s left of the city develops a crime-based economy.

  28. 32

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    It’s useless to even attempt to reply to all the polemic that “Dan Rather” aka Dufus spews on this board! He cites Watts as an example of liberal failure, but in fact, Watts is a legacy of the ultimate manifestation of cheap labor conservatism — slavery. Universal free public education was the bedrock of America’s 20th-century prosperity, and it is no accident that the U.S. economy took off coincident with the introduction of u.v.p.e. Dufus’ claim that our modern economy could have been built without taxes or massive government investment in infrastructure and subsidy of key industries is poppycock. Without taxes there can be no government; without government there can be no civilization; without civilization there can be no property, organized enterprise, or wealth beyond the animal skin covering your back and your wood club. You are a fucking idiot, a dolt, a home-schooling failure!

  29. 33

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @27 No, what creates private wealth in this country today is $500 million stadium subsidies coupled with contracts that give taxpayers all the expenses and business owners all the revenues. I wish I could get a deal like that!

  30. 34

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    If capitalism and free enterprise are so great why do these team owners come with 50 miles of the Legislative Building? Why can’t they raise capital for their facilities by selling stock? Why can’t these enterprises support themselves through ticket and concession sales, TV rights, parking fees, merchandise, and endorsement fees? It turns out the bleating capitalists are the biggest socialists of all.

  31. 35

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Hey Dufus aka Dan Blather — if you want to privatize the 520 bridge and leave my taxes out of it, that’s okay with me!

  32. 37

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Funny how, when you let these bleating capitalists privatize public works, the first thing they do is cash out the future revenue stream by selling the project to our adversaries.

    This means that, in event of war with China, the Chinese Strategic Transport Ministry will close their bridge until further notice, and commuters will have to cross Lake Washington in canoes and paddleboats.

  33. 38

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Unfortunately, we can’t attach a stipulation to the contract that the private developers can’t sell the bridge to our enemies, because the bleating capitalists have shipped all our jobs and money to China and no one else can afford to buy it.

  34. 39

    Dan Rather spews:

    New Orleans is a great example of how well liberalism works. The liberal labor unions did a marvelous job on those levies. Of course the levies failed just like everything else you liberals touch. Now all the crime in that liberal haven has moved accross state to Texas where the republicans are left again fixing another liberal problem.

  35. 40

    Dan Rather spews:

    Capitalism is always better than guvmint and should be employed by te government wherever possible. Not all things can be put into private hands, but there is a lot of work that should be. I can think of a no better example than public education. The public education delivered today in most big liberal cities is deplorable. The people running thoses school districts should be locked up for child abuse.

  36. 41

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    The liberal labor unions didn’t design the levees, the Corps of Engineers did; and the COE is a competent bunch, but they can’t build levees without money, and Bush refused to give them any. I read recently that the pumps in NOLA crapped out; they were procured under a no-bid contract from a company whose owners are buddies of Jeb Bush. Don’t blame this shit on liberals, Dufus; NOLA is another GOP fiasco, and you assholes own that stinker.

  37. 42

    Ran Dather spews:

    I’m a great example of how a wingnut talks. My standard tactic is to take facts way out of context or outright lie. Truth is for pussies.

    Yup, in my world all things Republican are fair, just and right; all things Democrat are evil. There cannot be any middle ground in my fascist worldview.

    Deep down I have to admit that my comments represent the intellectual equivalent of drooling. Yet I trumpet my profound ignorance and mendacity like I were the second coming.

    My children must be so proud of me.

  38. 43

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    From a wingnut’s point of view, what’s wrong with public schools is they create jobs for union teachers, and what’s wrong with teachers unions is they support Democrats instead of Republicans. Same with trial lawyers; wingnuts want to enact “tort reform” to put trial lawyers out of business because they’re the Democratic Party’s #1 source of campaign funds; but ideological purity won’t stop a wingnut from scurrying to an ambulance chaser’s office if you run over his foot in a parking lot.

  39. 44

    Dan Rather spews:

    41

    The reason why they dont have enough money is because of all the corrupt liberals you have to pay off in that city to get anything done. If anyone should be blamed for the misable failure of New Orleans it should be the liberals running it. You can give them a billion dollars and not one shovel will turn. The city if FU because of liberals. You liberals FU everything you touch.

  40. 45

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @40 Capitalism destroys itself. Its primary objective is to destroy competition and secure a monopoly franchise. It is like a poker contest; eventually all the chips end up in one player’s hands, and everyone else is driven from the game. Capitalism can’t even survive unless government regulates it.

  41. 46

    Ran Dather spews:

    My reptilian brain cannot acknowledge even a shred of nuance. “Liberals” FU everything. Republicans fix everything.

    Thinking is easy for me, because I sort all issues by the above template. I never have to struggle moral ambiguities because I have my unwavering north star.

    Of course, I am inevitably befuddled and overwhelmed once I am confronted with the complex realities of the 21st Century. That’s why I’m in line for a gig in the Bush administration.

  42. 47

    Dan Rather spews:

    Wealth is not a bunch of chips or checkers with a limited supply. Wealth is created. Capitalism benefits everyone and is the main force behind the reason why we Americans live so well. It is nothing to be ashamed of, it should be embraced and taught to less fortunate backward nations to improve their standard of living. The US, the only first tier nations has a responsiblity to teach second, third and fourth tiered nations how to use it. Without capitalism the world would truely be lost.

  43. 48

    Ran Dather spews:

    You guys think you are having a “conversation” or a “debate” with me. Actually you aren’t. I’m holding a press conference. I state my talking points over and over. It really doesn’t matter what you say. I state and restate my talking points.

    That’s my job. I do it well. I’m not embarrassed that I sound like an idiot, because I laugh all the way to the bank.

  44. 49

    Ran Dather spews:

    That’s why it is useless to try to engage me in conversation. I will never engage what you have to say unless I can use it to repeat my underlying talking points.

    I am a rhetorical tar baby. Please hit me again!

  45. 50

    Richard Pope spews:

    SeattleJ @ 30

    Did they actually kick you out, or just say you could only attend if you left your camera with security? Did they give you the $100.00 back? The whole thing sounds … interesting. At least they reported your $100.00 contribution to the Public Disclosure Commission TIMELY — received and deposited on March 29, 2007, report timely filed on April 10, 2007:

    http://www.pdc.wa.gov/rptimg/d.....ormtype=C3

  46. 51

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @31 Yeah, well, it’s not like I don’t know who’s been bitching about my prolific posting, SJ. I don’t need spies for this; intuitive inference will do. So you didn’t give anything away.

  47. 52

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    P.S., keep up the good work! We’re all Americans here. Well, most of us. Can’t say that of the trolls.

  48. 54

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    I don’t suppose Rove said anything new, interesting, or that he wouldn’t want to repeat on a witness stand. These events are rally-the-troops affairs. Except when the GOP holds them they’re circle-the-wagons affairs.

  49. 55

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    HEY ANTI-UNION RIGHTYS!!! SHOVE THIS UP YOUR ARSES!!!

    “OLYMPIA — The state Legislature has passed a bill to allow labor unions to spend nonmembers’ bargaining fees on political causes without first getting their permission, over the objections of opponents who said it was a clear attempt to circumvent a pending ruling by the U.S. Supreme Court.”

    Quoted under Fair Use; for complete story and/or copyright info see http://tinyurl.com/2jz4an

    Roger Rabbit Commentary: This is one of those bills I like simply because they hate it.

  50. 56

    spews:

    “OLYMPIA — The state Legislature has passed a bill to allow labor unions to spend nonmembers’ bargaining fees on political causes without first getting their permission, over the objections of opponents who said it was a clear attempt to circumvent a pending ruling by the U.S. Supreme Court.”

    Is this true? It sounds wrong.

  51. 57

    Right Stuff spews:

    Roger Rabbit says:

    HEY ANTI-UNION RIGHTYS!!! SHOVE THIS UP YOUR ARSES!!!

    “OLYMPIA — The state Legislature has passed a bill to allow labor unions to spend nonmembers’ bargaining fees on political causes without first getting their permission, over the objections of opponents who said it was a clear attempt to circumvent a pending ruling by the U.S. Supreme Court.”

    Ahhh, another victory for the proletariat, eh comrade?

    BTW how’s the recruiting campaign going? you know the one…
    “trigger happy foreign fighters” wanted for US military..
    See Roger Rabbit

  52. 60

    Not Not Roger Rabbit spews:

    I just woke up. Man, my sheets still smell Tide-fresh. I squeezed the Charmin and took a long “Zesty” shower. Bowl of Cherrios in the morning — hmmm, hmmm, good.

    I guess it’s time to read the Seattle Times (Washington’s newspaper) and get ready for another day’s work on my iMac. Folgers coffee makes it all go down real smooth. Will try to hit 100 comments today. It is possible — with proper discipline AND Kellogg’s Poptarts (strawberry with frosting, please).

  53. 62

    Heathen Sinner spews:

    Educate yourself and make a lot of money and a conservative will consider you to be a succes and hard worker. Educate yourself and do some research for the benefit of mankind and a conservative will become self righteous.

  54. 63

    Not Not Roger Rabbit spews:

    If you hit Goldy’s “scent” button you know that I just ripped a big one (must have been the Safeway brand BBQ ribs from last night). No worry; I’ll just reach for the Glade “summer fresh” with a wild and crazy hint of lemon. Should do the trick in no time. Sorry for the inconvenience.

  55. 64

    Not Not Roger Rabbit spews:

    While we’re waiting for the wingnuts to return from Church, have I told you about my new Honda Accord hybrid? It’s fast, fuel-efficient, and stylish with a capital S (re: Stylish). Best of all: I’ve been greatly impressed with the quality of customer service at Federal Way Honda. They really know how to treat a rabbit right!

  56. 65

    Not Not Roger Rabbit spews:

    I don’t think I’ve told all before that I’m working on my memoirs. It’s been a soul-searching experience on so many levels. My tears have destroyed four keyboards (not that I blame that on Apple, which produces the highest-quality keyboards around).

    The single most important thing that has made writing my memoirs easier is my printer. I bought a Brother MFC-7420. It’s a three-in-one printer, fax and photocopier! Works great, has been bulletproof, and I got it for under $260 at Office Max. Man, what a deal!

  57. 67

    Right Stuff spews:

    Roger Rabbit says:

    If capitalism and free enterprise are so great why do these team owners come with 50 miles of the Legislative Building? Why can’t they raise capital for their facilities by selling stock? Why can’t these enterprises support themselves through ticket and concession sales, TV rights, parking fees, merchandise, and endorsement fees? It turns out the bleating capitalists are the biggest socialists of all.

    The real reason they get public money is becuase Liberals are so willing to give public money to anybody and everybody….

  58. 68

    Right Stuff spews:

    Need proof?
    Take a drive down Royal Broughamm…

    Liberals just give it away………

    And somehow it is the conservatives fault for asking?
    Get real.

  59. 70

    Mark The Redneck KENNEDY spews:

    Gregoire wants to “gauge support” for The Producers to finance another fucking stadium? WTF???? I’ve yet to hear a Producer come out and say that they’d like to pay for this.

    http://seattletimes.nwsource.c.....cs15m.html

    If it’s such a fucking great idea, why isn’t “the market” financing it? How ’bout the sonics sell some stock? How bout the sonics go get bank loans? How ’bout they setup an enterprise zone around the stadium and force the businesses who cater to the stadium crowd to put up some money?

    Could it be that the economic benefit claimed is actually bullshit? Ya think?

  60. 71

    YOS LIB BRO spews:

    The Producers

    WILL BE OVERJOYED TO ENTERTAIN THEIR CLIENTS AND CRONIES IN A PUBLICALLY FINANCED STADIUM.

    NOW PAY YOUR FUCKING GAMBLING DEBT AND GTFO!

  61. 72

    Not Not Roger Rabbit spews:

    Mark Kennedy, while you’re working yourself up to a heart attack shouldn’t you consider beefing up your life insurance? Mutual of Omaha has a great menu of options for self-important blowhards such as yourself.

    Think of it: You can get back into the good graces of your estranged family by bestowing upon them the best gift of all: Money. Lots of it. So much money that they will quickly forget all of the awful things you did to make it to the top.

    So please, Mark, take a moment to contact your Mutual of Omaha agent today. You’ll feel so much better about your legacy. And maybe you won’t even to to h—.

  62. 73

    Not Not Roger Rabbit spews:

    Six comments in two hours — and I’m just getting warmed up! Fear not America, I will protect and defend you to my the death! Make my day, evil wingers, I will slay thee with my keyboard!

  63. 74

    Not Not Roger Rabbit spews:

    As a point of personal privilege, I’d like to take a moment to thank Cheri at the 5th Street Shell/Deli Mart for wonderful service. She greeted me warmly, counted my change properly and even gave me a little wink when I slapped down on the counter the latest issue of Playboy magazine. Man, and that red uniform really suits her well, if you know what I mean.

    Cheri, we salute you!

  64. 75

    Not Not Roger Rabbit spews:

    Mark Kennedy’s incisive comments about the hegemony of the Producers raises some important questions about the philosophical basis for American democracy. Mark’s narrative, while shallow and vulgar, are rooted in a political theory that deserves careful deconstruction.

    But first I’m going to open up the first Kellogg’s Poptarts box of the day. As mentioned earlier, my preference is for strawberry with icing. I particularly like the pink sprinkles. Yum. The quick injection of sugar and preservatives helps turbocharge my mind as a reach for my “Political Philosophy in American History” text.

    Stay tuned — brilliant analysis forthcoming.

  65. 76

    Not Not Roger Rabbit spews:

    Yup, says it right there in the “Political Philosophy of American History” by M. C. Prudrock: Mark Kennedy’s narrative sucks donkey d-ck.

    You heard it hear first.

  66. 77

    Not Not Roger Rabbit spews:

    I shouldn’t be to hard on Mark Kennedy, because we do share a certain self regard. The only difference is that I’m smarter than he is.

  67. 78

    Mark The Redneck KENNEDY spews:

    Not NOt… are you going to make the case, as Headlice has, that money, taxes, and oil are like checkers?

    I can’t wait to see your “brilliant analysis”.

    Dumass…

  68. 79

    Not Not Roger Rabbit spews:

    I liked that poptart so well that I just had another one. Mark, perhaps you’d improve your thinking if you made better food choices.

  69. 80

    Not Not Roger Rabbit spews:

    I actually kid. The essential thing to know about Mark Kennedy is that he isn’t an actual person. Nope. He’s the creation of a computer program that generates random winger talking points. Consider his comment above. Did you know that this very same comment was simultaneously downloaded into blogs all across this grand country?

    Now, it’s true that other names were used. But Mark isn’t real anyway, so that doesn’t undercut the authenticity of his comments.

  70. 81

    Not Not Roger Rabbit spews:

    You may as well call Mark Kennedy “Ork.” Or “Turdblossom.” Or even “Einstein.” Wouldn’t matter. Mark isn’t an actual thinking person. He is nothing more than the product of a fancy machine.

  71. 82

    Not Not Roger Rabbit spews:

    Now I realize that many of you may be shocked — shocked — to learn that Mark Kennedy is not a real person, but rather is the product of a computerized random comment generator back at Winger Central. Yes, it can be traumatic to realize that this man we all have bonded with so deeply doesn’t exist!

    But look at the bright side. The poor quality of Mark’s argumentation skills illustrates how much farther computers need to go to compete head-on with us humans of above-average intelligence.

  72. 83

    Not Not Roger Rabbit spews:

    I should clarify. I’m not merely of above-average intelligence, but I wanted to sound humble.

  73. 84

    Not Not Roger Rabbit spews:

    Hey, 15 comments and I’m still on my first box of poptarts. Take that, you evil wingnuts! And God Bless America!

  74. 88

    headless lucy spews:

    re 23: It doesn’t always work, but politeness will keep you safer in Watts than a machine gun will.

    What color do you think all those drug buyers are?

  75. 89

    Not Not Roger Rabbit spews:

    Winger humor. High class all the way. See, I told you that computers can’t compete with humans in intelligence.

  76. 90

    Mark The Redneck KENNEDY spews:

    Hey headlice – Tell me again how the amount of wealth in the world is a fixed amount.

    I need a good laugh…

  77. 91

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @69 Not not Roger Rabbit is not Roger Rabbit; and is not Not Roger Rabbit, either.

  78. 92

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @56 “Is this true? It sounds wrong.”

    I read it in the papers, so it’s properly wrong.

  79. 93

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @56 is a witty, good-natured, Roger Rabbit jibe at the MSM and the local fishwrapper in particular.

  80. 95

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @57 The recruiting campaign isn’t doing so good, RS. They’ve lowered the IQ and education requirements, and they’re letting criminals enlist. What do you suppose happens when our military is forced to accept criminals, gives them deadly weapons, and deploys them in a foreign land? You end up with atrocities against innocent women and children, that’s what happens.

    Waytago wingfuck wombats!!

  81. 96

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    I’m sure being forced to serve alongside the morally-challenged dregs of U.S. society does wonders for the morale of the decent men and women serving in our forces …

  82. 97

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @58 “I thought it was the conservative view to cheerish and value human life.”

    Only until it’s born.

  83. 98

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @59 What this means is after there’s no more oil to fight over, we’re going to fight over water. What I want to know is, what are you humans going to fight over after the drinking water is gone?

  84. 99

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @62 “Educate yourself and make a lot of money and a conservative will consider you to be a succes and hard worker.”

    No need to wear yourself out. Be born to the right parents and inherit a lot of money and conservatives will consider you to be a success and one of them. However, if you didn’t have a lucky birth, they will still consider you successful if you steal a lot of money.

  85. 100

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @64 Hey cheapskate, if you want to advertise your auto dealership on this board, pay Goldy for a display ad!!!

  86. 101

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    I gotta admit that I admire Republicans for their skill at getting things for nothing at someone else’s expense. It’s their defining characteristic! See, e.g., Clay Bennett and his fellow out-of-state panhandlers.

  87. 102

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @67 “The real reason they get public money is becuase Liberals are so willing to give public money to anybody and everybody….”

    True, that’s a problem; but liberals are no worse than self-described conservatives in that respect, and we use your money to build things, not kill people. But I understand what yer sayin’, and I’m werkinonit.

  88. 103

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @68 Since asking usually precedes getting, conservatives are hardly innocent, as we wouldn’t give it to you if you didn’t demand it. So don’t give us that big-innocent-brown-eyes look!

  89. 104

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @69 A monkey can think he’s Harry Truman, but he’s still only a monkey. There is only one Roger Rabbit, and you ain’t him; neither are those other posters.

  90. 105

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @70 I can’t believe I actually agree with you on something, Redneck, but it seems to me we already “gauged support” when we held an election on this very subject. What part of 75% “no” doesn’t Gregoire understand? It’s that damned Seattle Way again:

    Step 1: 75% of Seattle votes say “hell no!” to a $400 million taxpayer giveaway to a gang of rightwing Bible Belt aggressive panhandlers.

    Step 2: Sonics move to Renton.

    Step 3: Renton city fathers offer the Sonics $400 million of King County taxpayers’ money, only 1% of which will come from people who actually live in Renton.

    Step 4: Rightwing Bible Belt aggressive panhandlers throw in another $100 million of OPM, 0% of which will come from their own pockets.

    Step 5: Riots block Seattle streets; effigies burn; angry mobs throw bricks and firebombs from behind barricades at foreign invaders from Oklahoma.

    Step 6: Governor says she needs to “gauge support” for arena financing scheme.

  91. 108

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @75 I have a growing suspicion that Not-Not Rabbit and Welsher are the same guy.

  92. 109

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @77 “The only difference is that I’m smarter than he is.”

    I’d choose a different example if I were you. That’s like comparing yourself to a cauliflower.

  93. 110

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @90 “Tell me again how the amount of wealth in the world is a fixed amount.”

    It all depends on your attitude, Redneck. Ancient Chinese society was a zero-sum society – their cultural orientation was the only way to get anything was by taking it from someone else. Consequently, China had a flat economic growth curve for 3,000 years.

    Contemporary American conservative culture is another example of a zero-sum mentality. While they believe in the possibility of economic growth, whether growth occurs is completely out of their hands because it depends on other people doing productive work while conservatives play golf. Consequently, whenever the producers get fed up with doing all the work while the cheap labor conservatives get all the money, we have another recession and the output curve flatlines again.

  94. 111

    Not Not Roger Rabbit spews:

    108:
    “@75 I have a growing suspicion that Not-Not Rabbit and Welsher are the same guy.” — alleged Roger Rabbit

    Now Roger, remember that Welsher doesn’t have a shred of irony in his body, and he couldn’t make a self-disparaging joke if his life depended upon it.

    Beyond that, he’d never know like I do that you have a thing for poptarts and Playboy magazines.

  95. 112

    Not Not Not Roger Rabbit spews:

    Ahem, that’s not public information, Not Not. Could we change the subject?

  96. 115

    Dan Rather spews:

    Roger Rabbit says:

    @57 The recruiting campaign isn’t doing so good, RS. They’ve lowered the IQ and education requirements, and they’re letting criminals enlist. What do you suppose happens when our military is forced to accept criminals, gives them deadly weapons, and deploys them in a foreign land? You end up with atrocities against innocent women and children, that’s what happens.

    Waytago wingfuck wombats!!

    What, they are recruiting donks now. Useless, useless.