“The David Goldstein Show” tonight on Newsradio 710-KIRO

It’s Post-Election Gloating Special tonight on “The David Goldstein Show” on Newsradio 710-KIRO, from 7PM to 10PM.

7PM: How will the Democratic Party ever survive those crazy “nutroots”…? Democrats won big, big, BIG on Tuesday, retaking both the US House and Senate. And while some people say same of the credit should go to us bloggers and internet activists, others say us crazy, far-left, whacked-out “nutroots” are going to be the death of Democratic Party. Joan McCarter, better known as frontpage blogger McJoan on that crazy, far-left, whacked-out blog Daily Kos joins me to give her perspective on Tuesday’s election and the role of the netroots now and in the future. Oh.. and she’ll also do some gloating.

8PM: Still want to move to Canada? Tuesday was only a start, and I’m pretty damn sure we’ll take a couple of steps backwards on our way to a true progressive majority. Bill Scher of the blog Liberal Oasis is in town promoting his new book Wait! Don’t Move to Canada!, and he’ll be joining me in the studio to argue for his “stay-and-fight strategy to win back America.” And of course, we’ll do some gloating as well.

9PM: What’s the matter with Washington? As big an ass-whooping as the Democrats delivered nationally, that’s nothing compared to the clean-sweep in statewide and legislative races, where the Dems took near super-majorities in both houses. Progressive Majority of Washington’s Dean Nielsen will call in at the top of the hour to give us an update on the legislative races, and former Republican state Rep. Toby Nixon will join me in the studio for the entire hour to talk about what led to his party’s stunning defeat (including his own) and what he expects from the fattened Democratic majority in Olympia. Will Democrats overreach? Will they be too timid? Toby will tell us. (And since Toby is such a stand-up guy, I’ll try not to do too much gloating.

Tune in tonight (or listen to the live stream) and give me a call: 1-877-710-KIRO (5476).

Comments

  1. 1

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    RESULTS OF ROGER RABBIT POLL

    The results are in, the people have spoken, and …

    [ ] 1. adopt a more conciliatory attitude toward our Republican friends, tone down his rhetoric, and adopt a more constructive approach in his comments on HA. – 1 vote
    [X] 2. rip those fuckers a new belly button grrrrrrr. – 31,347,659 votes

  2. 2

    RightEqualsStupid spews:

    There hasn’t been much talk about this but the GOP defeat this week was HUGE on many levels including this one…we took control of nine additional state legislatures, in addition to the Governorships, US House and US Senate seats. This is one of the largest asswhippings in history. Man it sucks (in so many ways) to be a rethug.

  3. 3

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    BTW, the Sucky Politics comments today are full of uninformed hot air about the King County ballot bags by people who know nothing about actual elections.

  4. 4

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    “This was a big deal. Certainly, it was the end of George W. Bush’s radical experiment in partisan governance. It might have been even bigger than that: the end of the conservative pendulum swing that began with Ronald Reagan’s revolution.” — Time Magazine, Nov. 12, 2006 http://tinyurl.com/ykc375

  5. 5

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Now the question is, if Dubya renounces politics-is-war partisanship and tries to work with Democrats, should we forgive and forget … pretend the last 6 years never happened?

  6. 6

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Free Republic, like Sound Politics, is a subversive organization that promotes terrorism and violence:

    “Congratulations Speaker Pelosi, now let the bombs fall where they may. My prediction: terror attack on domestic soil passenger aircraft within the next six months. Casualties in the 2-300 range. And, unfortunately, maybe that’s just what we need. It’s obvious people don’t remember what happened 5 years ago.
    Posted by FullContactPolitics at November 8, 2006 10:52 AM”

    http://tinyurl.com/ydlfwu

  7. 7

    klake spews:

    Now they the Socialist Democrats could have veto the War effort in the beginning since they knew there was no WMD’s. Hell Saddam himself could have prevented the War by letting everybody in to inspect without any restriction and he would have still be running Iraq with Jimmy McDermott. Yep you are right the Socialist Democrats knew all the time that there was no WND’s just to win the election. RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Comment by klake— 11/12/06@ 6:10 pm
    Why don’t you wake up and smell the dead rotting corpses. If Americans listened to Jim McDermott instead of a lying deserter, and his lying staff, we wouldn’t be facing this disaster in Iraq, and we could have spent the last 3 years hunting terrorists, instead of just creating them.

    Comment by Facts Support My Positions— 11/12/06@ 7:59 pm
    MR. FACTS YOU DON’T HAVE ALL THE FACTS AND YOUR SOCIALIST DEMOCRAT FRIENDS DON’T POSCESS THEM EITHER. Now they did the best they could with the information at hand. It now appears that the only two people on this planet that didn’t know Saddam did not have WMD’s were Jimmy McDermott and his brother Saddam. The one thing that is real clear is that you know nothing about terrorist and how they recruit their victims to fight for their ideology and religion. Saddam friends and Osama Bin Laudin thanks you for your support and sent all the money to Jimmy McDermott in Seattle.

  8. 10

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    And then we’ll spend the next two years listening to lying wingnuts bleating about how the Democrats “almost stole” the 8th C.D. election of 2006. It doesn’t matter. The Right is in its death throes. Four years from now, there won’t even be a Republican Party.

  9. 11

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    The GOP succeeded in creating a permanent majority — simply not the one they envisioned.

  10. 12

    Facts Support My Positions spews:

    The main difference in terms of numbers between the final version of S. 2611 and the version of the bill when the cloture motion was invoked was that the Bingaman Amendment to cap the number of employment-based visas for workers, spouses and children at 650,000 was adopted after cloture but before final passage. Robert Rector of the Heritage Foundation estimates that the Bingaman Amendment would reduce employment-based visas available under S. 2611 by about 150,000 a year. S. 2611 passed by a vote of 62 to 36.

    fACTS SUPPORT MY POSITIONS

    Commentby klake— 11/12/06@ 8:23 pm

    —————–

    Klake, I would love to see the Democrats, and Republicans work out solutions to our immigration problem. So far it has only been a political football to be used by both sides, and we could use some real solutions. I would bet you and I both share a lot of the same ideas when it comes to immigration.

    What do you suppose we do about the millions of manufacturing jobs going overseas? All the education in the world won’t help us if the only jobs available are at walmart and KFC.

  11. 13

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    As part of the community service that judges will impose on every Republican voter in the country, I propose the following guest editorial in today’s P-I be framed and permanently affixed to the wall, and be required daily reading:

    “I recently filled out a political survey online. It asked me to rate myself from (0) very liberal to (100) very conservative. … Why … does this … question stump me?

    “The trick is that even though I’m socially liberal, I’m fiscally conservative. I’ve run my small business for 18 years. I’m averse to personal debt, and the $8.5 trillion federal debt horrifies me. Now before someone blames the ‘tax and spend liberals’ for creating it, let’s consider that the debt doubled (as a percentage of GDP) during Presidents Reagan/George H.W. Bush, dropped 10 percent under President Clinton and has grown 15 percent so far under President George W. Bush. So with that as a backdrop, let’s look at my ‘liberal’ positions.

    “1. Universal health care. We spend nearly double what other industrialized nations spend per-person on health care, and yet our system ranks lower in most measurements including quality of care and access to care. The U.S. also ranks near the bottom for life expectancy and last in infant mortality. It’s clear our health care dollar can be better spent. The answer? A universal government-run system complemented by private services. Better, cheaper, proven.

    “2. Environmental protection. Our entire civilization is dependent upon the natural capital of our planet. With every tree cut down and every pollutant entering the air, water and soil, we mortgage our fiscal and physical health. We will spend infinitely more money dealing with degraded natural systems than corporations and countries are saving and earning now. An aggressively green economy will pay off not only by avoiding fiscal disaster but will stimulate economic prosperity in itself.

    “3. Social services. As our safety net is clipped, our population finds itself less secure. A lost job or a health problem can plunge middle-class Americans into bankruptcy. An insecure population does not make for an energized work force. People who are a few paychecks from the street are less likely to take risks or start up new businesses. Meanwhile, the money we save by reducing services simply gets channeled into resulting costs such as police, jails, substance abuse programs, special education and Medicaid. The costs of providing basic social services are investments amply repaid by a healthier, more productive and less needy population.

    “4. Alternative energy. In 1977, President Carter committed the U.S. to halting our growing dependence on foreign oil and began investing in his goal to derive 20 percent of our energy from solar power by the year 2000. Enter Reagan. So here we are today straddled with more shortsighted policies from another oil-saturated administration.

    “So all of us pay. The planet pays with air and water quality, oil spills and rising temperatures. Our military pays through expanding engagement in an unstable Middle East. And we pay with rising energy dollars and declining health in an increasingly dirty and dangerous world. …

    “I assure you, my other wacky liberal positions are equally steeped in common sense and fiscal prudence. I guess I’ll give myself a (0) for very liberal, as I just don’t understand what ‘conservative’ means anymore.

    “Kelly Fernandi lives in Seattle.”

    Quoted under Fair Use; for complete article and/or copyright info see http://tinyurl.com/y6pf7q

    Roger Rabbit Commentary: Of course, I’ve known all along that “conservatives” aren’t really “conservative;” they very liberally spend other people’s money on themselves and their own indulgences.

  12. 15

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    “What is the proper way to act when you have made a boo-boo on the scale of what Perle and Adelman now admit to? A brief period of silence might be in order, followed by a bit of ideological spring cleaning. If this big idea has turned out to be wrong, isn’t it possible that some of their other ideas are also wrong? In fact, maybe their whole philosophy is mistaken.” — Time Magazine, Nov. 12, 2006 http://tinyurl.com/yzmupg

  13. 17

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    NEOCONS WITHOUT HONOR

    “Kenneth Adelman and Richard Perle said ‘oops’ earlier this month. … Yet …, there is no note of contrition. It’s not their fault … President George W. Bush bungled the job. …

    “Opponents of the Iraq war ought to be happy for two such prominent converts. So why is their conversion so enraging? Well, first, howzabout an apology? It’s maddening that there’s no cost for being wrong, even when it translates into thousands of people dead and billions of dollars down the drain.

    ” … Adelman and Perle … have reason to be pleased, having deserted the Bush Administration five minutes ahead of the other rats.”

    Quoted from Time Magazine under Fair Use; for complete article and/or copyright info see http://tinyurl.com/yzmupg

  14. 18

    righton spews:

    65- roger..

    dummy; what party in Seattle jammed us on 3 stadiums? I recall Key Arena was a fav of the mainstream Dem leadership, same for stupid football fiedl, even baseball

  15. 19

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    I’m guessing Darcy does the concession speech Monday. Commentby eponymous coward— 11/12/06@ 4:32 pm

    Nope, because the 100 ballot bags containing 20,000 ballots won’t even be opened before the canvassing board meets on Tuesday.

  16. 20

    Daddy Love spews:

    41 klake

    S. 2611 would: …entice millions more foreign workers to illegally enter our communities, crowd the housing and schools, take the jobs and depress the wages

    You should label this as your opinion, because that’s all it is.

  17. 21

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    I wish I could own a business where the taxpayers put up 75% of my capital and I get 95% of the profits!

  18. 22

    George Bakan spews:

    need som computer hints – can’t get the KIRO radio thing to work – have fast DSL, new Dell PC – have tried and tried. What is runtime? A message comes up about that, but will not let me download it.

    Help anybody … thanks.

  19. 23

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    92

    Terrorism suspect Chad Castagana’s Free Republic bio reads in part:

    “English is the langauge of the United States of America- – our Declaration of Independence and our Constitution are written in the langauge that expresses our civilized freedoms .”

    English may be the “language” of the U.S.A., but he sure as hell isn’t fluent in our language. Typical illiterate wingfuck — probably can’t spell his own name, either.

  20. 24

    George Bakan spews:

    Obama will be the next President of the US …. not Clinton.

    He is poised perfectly for the run. Big state, Illinois, historic first for an Afrrican American as President, dwith a broad support base including women, Hispanics and Blacks and urban centers.

    He is supremely articulate and intelligent, god, what a relief. And he has ideas, energy and is perhaps the most telegenic leader out there.

    Tell me you have seen a bad photo or clip of him? None. Almost movie star good looking, but not a pretty boy face, just good old American good looking guy. And presence.

    Barack Obama, a real 21 st Century President.

    He solves the Clinton love/hate thing for Dems.

    She is scared of him at present, watch the real fight as campaigning starts.

  21. 25

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    We need to get tough with terrorists. They should execute this guy. Hey just kidding — what would we do for entertainment without freepers?

  22. 26

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    I hope he gets butt-fucked in jail, though. By some great big hulking biker with an “I Love John Kerry” tatoo on his chest.

  23. 27

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    … And let us not overlook this comment on the Sadly, No! blog, which is right on point:

    Bullsmith said,

    November 13, 2006 at 18:45

    “Fox logic-

    1. Subject A was a good Conservative Blog reader.
    2. Subject A engaged in terrorist activity, or mock-terrorist activity.
    3. There are lib’ral blogs spewing the terrorists’ messages.
    4. The actions of Subject A conclusively prove that the liberal blogoshere is responsible for terrorism. No one is safe.”

  24. 28

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    ROGER RABBIT POLL

    If George W. Bush decides to govern from the center and compromise with Democrats, how soon should we forgive and forget?

    [ ] 1. When the earth falls into the sun
    [ ] 2. Not in this fucking lifetime!
    [ ] 3. Check back with us in 500 years or so
    [ ] 4. Don’t call us, we’ll you
    [ ] 5. We won’t have time to discuss that until after the trials and hangings

  25. 29

    Facts Support My Positions spews:

    The people that cause this disaster in Iraq should be tried for their crimes. They must be held accountable!!!!!!!! I will not rest till the day Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, and Rice, and all others are marched off to the Hague to stand trial for their crimes.

    In case you forgot, these animals said Saddam DEFINITELY had WMD’s. They didn’t say they only thought he did. We won’t mention ties to Al Queda (in reality Saddam’s enemy) or other lies.

    What about “there’s no doubt Saddam has re-constituted his nuclear weapons program” eh? Cheney should have said “there is no proof” and he wouldn’t have been lying.

    Lies.

    Treason.

    Guilty.

    Americans want justice, along with (I would assume) the families of 150,000 – 500,000 dead Iraqis.

    Calling yourself a Republican these days is treason.

    Reality.

    You can support known traitors, or you can accept reality, admit your mistakes, and join the brotherhood of man looking only for justice. Unless of course you thing lying traitors should not be punished…….

  26. 30

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    American conservatives are a mere shadow of their former selves. Even the once-venerable Sound Politics has fallen from its former lofty perch to become a jihadist website promoting terror attacks against the U.S., to wit:

    Congratulations Speaker Pelosi, now let the bombs fall where they may. My prediction: terror attack on domestic soil passenger aircraft within the next six months. Casualties in the 2-300 range. And, unfortunately, maybe that’s just what we need. It’s obvious people don’t remember what happened 5 years ago.
    Posted by FullContactPolitics at November 8, 2006 10:52 AM

    http://tinyurl.com/ydlfwu

  27. 31

    Anonymous spews:

    >>>>> how is it those brand new “leaders” haven’t managed to find a moment to denounce the celebrations of our enemies in all their primping and gloating before the cameras? < <<<<

    Two hundred socialist members of the European Union issued a statement saying that last Tuesday’s elections represented “the beginning of the end of a six-year nightmare for the world,” as though America – not Islamofascism – were responsible for the global war that is raging against
    Western Civilization.

    This is how Iran’s supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, interpreted the results of our elections:

    “This issue (the elections) is not a purely domestic issue for America, but it is the defeat of Bush’s hawkish policies in the world. Since Washington’s hostile and hawkish policies have always been against the Iranian nation, this defeat is actually an obvious victory for the Iranian nation. With the scandalous defeat of America’s policies in Iraq, Palestine, Lebanon and Afghanistan, America’s threats are empty threats on an international scale.”

    Abu al-Masri, leader of Al Qaeda in Iraq, evidently aware of Democrat plans to retreat, taunted us, saying, “We haven’t had enough of your blood yet. We call on the lame duck (President Bush) not to hurry his escape the way the defense secretary did [referring to Donald Rumsfeld’s resignation]. Remain steadfast on the battlefield, you coward. We will not rest from our Jihad until we have blown up the filthiest house – which is called the White House.”r words, leaving Iraq won’t end the war – the jihadists will come to America.

    b> Nancy, Nancy where are you?? < <<<<
    >>>>> Hiding in your house of cards??… < <<<<

    A number of post-election polls have suggested that, as Newsweek put it, “Republicans lost the 2006 midterm [election] more than the Democrats won it.”

    According to the Newsweek poll, 85% of respondents cited disapproval of the administration’s handling of the war in Iraq as a “major reason” Democrats won. Seventy-one percent cited disapproval of George Bush’s job performance; 67% cited Republican spending habits; 63% said it was disapproval of the Republican congressional performance generally. Only 27% of those asked cited the quality of Democrat candidates as a reason Democrats won the election.

    >>>>> YAHOOOOOOO a whopping 27% MANDATE! < <<<<

    That said, voters are worried about what the Democrats might do with their majority status. Fifty-one percent of those polled by Newsweek said they were “very concerned” that the new Congress will push too hastily for the withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq, while 43% said they were “very concerned” that the Democrat majority would hamper the administration’s efforts to combat terrorism.

  28. 32

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    ROGER RABBIT POLL

    Roger Rabbit should …

    [ ] 1. adopt a more conciliatory attitude toward our Republican friends, tone down his rhetoric, and adopt a more constructive approach in his comments on HA.
    [ ] 2. rip those fuckers a new belly button grrrrrrr.

  29. 33

    klake spews:

    Sen. Cantwell voted in favor of final passage of S. 2611, the Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act of 2006. S. 2611 would dramatically change most occupations and communities in America with the largest movement of foreign workers in world history. Specifically, S. 2611 would: reward approximately 10.2 million illegal aliens with an amnesty allowing them to permanently take American jobs and become U.S. citizens; entice millions more foreign workers to illegally enter our communities, crowd the housing and schools, take the jobs and depress the wages because they reasonably can believe they eventually will be given an amnesty, too; double legal immigration from 1 million to 2 million a year; give out permanent green cards to up to 66 million foreign workers and dependents over the next 20 years. The main difference in terms of numbers between the final version of S. 2611 and the version of the bill when the cloture motion was invoked was that the Bingaman Amendment to cap the number of employment-based visas for workers, spouses and children at 650,000 was adopted after cloture but before final passage. Robert Rector of the Heritage Foundation estimates that the Bingaman Amendment would reduce employment-based visas available under S. 2611 by about 150,000 a year. S. 2611 passed by a vote of 62 to 36.

    fACTS SUPPORT MY POSITIONS

  30. 34

    jaybo spews:

    I think I can hear the faint sound of wailing and knashing of teeth from the nutroots……

    Lieberman refuses to close door on switching parties
    November 12, 2006
    HARTFORD, Conn. –Sen. Joe Lieberman on Sunday repeated his pledge to caucus with Senate Democrats when the 110th Congress convenes in January, but refused to slam the door on possibly moving to the Republican side of the aisle.

    Asked on NBC’s “Meet the Press” if he might follow the example of Sen. Jim Jeffords of Vermont, who left the Republicans in 2001 and became an independent, ending Republican control of the U.S. Senate, Lieberman refused to discount the possibility.
    “I’m not ruling it out but I hope I don’t get to that point,” he said. “And I must say — and with all respect to the Republicans who supported me in Connecticut — nobody ever said, ‘We’re doing this because we want you to switch over. We want you to do what you think is right and good for our state and country,’ and I appreciate that.”
    A spokeswoman for Lieberman would not elaborate when contacted by The Associated Press.

  31. 35

    klake spews:

    King
    Last tabulated:
    11/11/2006 6:08:58 PM Darcy Burner

    Democrat 81593 50.1981%
    Dave Reichert

    Republican 80949 49.8019%

    Pierce
    Last tabulated:
    11/10/2006 10:53:05 AM Darcy Burner

    Democrat 13602 43.3710%
    Dave Reichert

    Republican 17760 56.6290%
    Well how is the ballot stuffing going in King County this week end? It appears that Darcy is slowly catching up with Dave. Now the unknown question is when she overtakes him in the count.

  32. 36

    Daddy Love spews:

    169 Iraqis were killed or found dead today. That’s really an astounding number. I makes me really angry. We did a really stupid thing, and it was something that a lot of pretty smart people always thought would be a really stupid thing. But the Bush guys never listen to the really smart people who, you know, actually know what they’re talking about, so here we are. We overthrew Saddam and let the genie of the ethnic divisions from the WWI-era creation of Iraq out of the bottle, and now there’s probably not a fucking thing we can do to stop the slaughter. Except get our bloody stupid asses out of there before more Americans get killed for something we can’t do a fucking thing to stop.

    It’s ridiculous, and it’s horrific, and it’s sad, and I for one am not going to stop fighting until the assholes who did all these and more stupid things are run out of our government.

  33. 37

    Facts Support My Positions spews:

    How about a little history lesson.

    Before the invasion, there were no Al Queda in Iraq.
    There are now. We have created a training ground for Al Queda in Iraq for the forseeable future no matter what. We have weakened our military to the breaking point, and will have to cough up 2 trillion dollars to take care of our wounded vets, even if we pull out today. We have weakened our alliances, and would not be considered the leader of anything worldwide anymore. We have let Iran, and North Korea work on their Nuclear, or Nucular (if you are a retard) programs unchecked for 6 years. We have ignored global warming for 6 years, and our greenhouse has emissions have only risen at an alarming rate. We have watched Tom
    DeLay, Jack Abramoff style corruption permeate our government unchecked, and have completely given up oversight.

    We have burned our constitution. We don’t even have the right to not be tortured, wiretapped, and searched without a warrant, or probable cause.

    The list of the damage Republican Rule has done to our country is so long, Goldy’s database couldn’t hold all the data.

    Time for change has come.

    Thank God.

  34. 38

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    A sports team owner is exactly like a welfare mom who will keep popping out babies as long as you give her more money for each one.

  35. 39

    klake spews:

    I feel joy because Rumsfeld is gone and I never believed for a second there were any weapons of mass destruction, and I was abhorred when I witnessed a war hysteria that reminded me of a dark past in European history. I feel joy that the American people finally stood up and said enough is enough.
    Comment by headless Lucy— 11/12/06@ 5:56 pm
    Oh sweet Lucy you are in for some serious need for a shrink. You have some real problems and it will need more than a few elections to fix that problem. Lucy you and your friends the Socialist Democrats did not know for a fact that your friend Saddam had any weapons of mass destruction. Now they the Socialist Democrats could have veto the War effort in the beginning since they knew there was no WMD’s. Hell Saddam himself could have prevented the War by letting everybody in to inspect without any restriction and he would have still be running Iraq with Jimmy McDermott. Yep you are right the Socialist Democrats knew all the time that there was no WND’s just to win the election. RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  36. 40

    RightEqualsStupid spews:

    Hey Flakey Klakey how does it feel to have actual, demonstrated proof that you are part of the fringe element of America? Is it lonely in your universe? Do you ever feel stoooopid knowing that the lies you and your ilk told for six years have been in every way repudiated? Or are you just too retarded to understand that you just got your ass handed to you? LOL!

  37. 41

    eponymous coward spews:

    Sooo… Burner’s gone from 2700 back to 3100 back to 3600 back, with about 45-50K votes left.

    I’m guessing Darcy does the concession speech Monday.

  38. 42

    proud to be an Ass spews:

    Well how is the ballot stuffing going in King County this week end?

    It’s going quite well, thank you for asking. How’s it going in Florida and Ohio? Not so good you say? Pity.

    Yours in countervailing corruption,

    PTBAA

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  40. 44

    Don Joe spews:

    It’s worth noting that the only remaining seat in question that was previously held by a Democrat is GA-12, where Democrat Barrow leads Burns by a very slim margin of about 900 votes. If Barrow holds on, then the Republicans will have failed to take a single seat in Congress or a single Governorship that was previously held by a Democrat. As I recall, such a run of the table is unprecidented.

  41. 45

    Daddy Love spews:

    ANon

    Please tell us where you stole that one from.

    I especially like the line about “Nancy Pelosivic.” Yeah, she’s both a Russian (“Commmunist”) and hosts “Al Zarqawi’s mom” at her house! Clever compounding of all that is hateful to conservative nutjobs into a single sentence. And BLAMING TERRRORISM ON DEMOCRATS. How original.

    Of course, the guy mailing white powder out to Democrats and media figures is right-wing, but don’t let right wing domestic terrorism ever enter your little mind. We’ll take care of them.

  42. 46

    Bah humbug spews:

    I clicked on the link and it looks like headless lucy was quoting Peter Rost. She probably should have used quotes because one person who was paradoxically too lazy to click on the link took Rost’s words to be hers. I’ve had people jump on my posts due to my laziness with attribution.

    I think I will move back to Canada. Economy is doing well there, the realities of higher taxes and bilingualism don’t make me break out in hives, public education isn’t derailed by special interests and is competent enough to produce globally competitive workers and citizens, I can handle a moderate conservative government like Harper’s cabinet but I can’t handle “facts? who needs facts? All ya need are faith and fascism. Just spout off that you believe in the Lord but never put your Christianity into practice, misguide yourself into thinking you’re one of the top 1% who benefits, and have gay sex behind closed doors so we can perpetuate shame instead of acceptance.” It says a lot that it took Americans six years, a flooding of a major city, and some “gay scandals” to get some to wake up. That’s just “some.” I still think 60% of voters would vote for a rabid, legless rhesus monkey if it had the right party affiliation and waved the Stars and Stripes.

    I’ll just save up my sheqels and pay off the house. I don’t think the country is any better, and won’t think it any better until I see proof of a strategy and a spine from the Democrats. I still expect that people will deny global warming, the peak production period of oil has passed, and borrow borrow borrow their way into “prosperity” and go to war to give the military-industrial complex something to do. What do you think, another ten years for people to really wake up? Or when gas reaches $5.00/gallon? Or maybe as early as the first quarter of 2007, when adjustable rate mortgages start to reset and the real estate market is flooded with houses and Federal Way condos? (check out the last four months of ‘notice of trustee sale’ postings on King County’s Records Division.)

  43. 47

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    I’ll NEVER move to Canada! I’ll stay here in America and fight until the last neocon is in jail, disgraced, exiled, or reformed.

  44. 48

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    After listening to Goldy’s show tonight, I wonder if I should adopt a more conciliatory attitude toward our Republican friends, tone down my rhetoric, and adopt a more constructive approach in my comments here.

  45. 49

    Daddy Love spews:

    I’m just watching and waiting for the Republican bloodbath. They lost both houses of Congress. Bloody heads will be rolling down the street and enough dead and tortured bodies (in the figurative sense) to make Washington DC look like Baghdad in the morning. You’ll see.

    In contrast, Democrats won. They’re all happy and get new offices. No one wil fight for quite some time. Just the Republicans. Get your popcorn.

  46. 50

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Hey Redneck — It’s The Wingnut Economy, Stoopid!!

    “Nov. 20, 2006 issue – Talk about being in denial. President Bush thought that voters should credit him for a great economy, even if they opposed the war. Just look at the numbers: low unemployment, low inflation, record profits, taxes down, stocks up.

    “But in exit polls, half the voters called the economy ‘not good’ or ‘poor.’ Only 31 percent said they were ‘getting ahead’ financially. Someone’s not in the loop. Is it the public or the prez?

    ” … (T)he answer lies in the election returns. The public declared that they’re changing the terms of the debate … too many unaddressed problems have been piling up — … retirement insecurity, oil dependence, political and corporate corruption, budget deficits, health-care costs …. Nobody seems to know what to do.

    “Creeping doubt can turn into a seismic shift in political thinking, says Allen Sinai, chief global economist for Decision Economics. For example, take the perceived failures of the Carter years. They ushered in Ronald Reagan, whose antigovernment rhetoric has dominated our choices for the past 25 years. But answers don’t seem to lie in that direction anymore. ‘Another great political wave may be building up, and once it rolls out it doesn’t quickly get reversed,’ Sinai says.

    “The new wave—the one the public sees but Bush does not — is a pervasive feeling of permanent insecurity, says Yale political scientist Jacob Hacker, author of the new book ‘The Great Risk Shift.’ By ‘risk shift,’ he means that employers and governments have left us more on our own, to fund our health care and retirement plan. Bush’s ownership society doesn’t look good if you’re on the street at 61 and need a Starbucks job for health insurance.

    “At the top, the ‘working rich’ are doing stupendously well. In 2004, the wealthiest 1 percent of households (with incomes higher than $315,000) copped 53 percent of all the year’s income gains. Americans usually don’t care how much other people get as long as they’re doing OK themselves. But lately, they haven’t been.

    “Median incomes for households with people of working age (65 or less) fell last year for the fifth year in a row. Adjusted for inflation, these families are bringing in $3,000 less, the Economic Policy Institute reports. When the president tells them they’re fine, he sounds out of touch. …

    “In Washington, the political parties will be sharpening their agendas for the wide-open ’08 presidential race. The Republicans have one last chance to show they can fix things, after all. Otherwise, voters will bring in new top management. If there’s indeed a longer-term shift in public-policy thinking, here’s how the economic priorities will shake out:

    “The minimum wage. It’s expected to rise from $5.15 an hour to $7.25 — not a stretch, for the country as a whole. … Princeton political scientist Larry Bartels has) shown that income growth, for the middle class and poor, rises substantially more under Dem presidents than under Republicans (the rich fare about the same, either way). …

    “Social issues. Universal health insurance will be back on the table. …

    “The new regime won’t be cooking anyone a free lunch. But in concept, it believes that government can help. Dems lean toward economic security, not go-it-alone. Can they do it? We’re going to see.”

    Quoted under Fair Use; for complete article and/or copyright info see http://tinyurl.com/unj26

  47. 51

    headless lucy spews:

    I think this site is being deliberately targeted with the porn spam because it is an important source of political free speech for EVERYONE and whoever has targeted it realizes how weakly their conservative BS stands up to criticism.

    The turning point was when the nut jobs were yapping about what they’d do to anyone they saw burning a flag and they received a good dose of cognitive dissonance when the commenters here welcomed them to come to a flag burning and if they tried to prevent it,they would be interfering with our property rights because we owned the flag.

  48. 52

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    THE NEW SWING REGION: THE WEST

    The GOP’s Southern Strategy isn’t dead, but it’s irrelevant:

    “The land west of the Mississippi, especially west of the 100th meridian, is the new swing region — and the place where Democrats hope to win the White House. ‘It’s our 21st-century-majority strategy,’ said Simon Rosenberg of the New Democratic Network.

    “The westward trend is clear. For the first time, leaders of the House and Senate are from the Far West. Democrats put Nevada in a crucial early spot in the presidential-selection process, and will hold their convention in Denver. Republican front runners have Western roots … (t)he key presidential swing states now (are) … Arizona, New Mexico, Colorado and Nevada.

    http://tinyurl.com/ym7sqs

    Roger Rabbit Commentary: If Hillary is our 2008 nominee, why not put Gregoire on the ticket? It makes perfect sense. In fact, as the West continues to grow in importance (and political clout), I think Gregoire could be President someday. She’s the smartest and most dynamic politician our state has ever produced, and one of the best in the nation. She thinks big … big enough to change the world. From Day One of the 2004 campaign, I thought I might be looking at a future President. I hope she hasn’t ruled it out in her mind.

  49. 53

    Facts Support My Positions spews:

    I feel joy because Rumsfeld is gone and I never believed for a second there were any weapons of mass destruction, and I was abhorred when I witnessed a war hysteria that reminded me of a dark past in European history. I feel joy that the American people finally stood up and said enough is enough.
    Comment by headless Lucy— 11/12/06@ 5:56 pm
    Oh sweet Lucy you are in for some serious need for a shrink. You have some real problems and it will need more than a few elections to fix that problem. Lucy you and your friends the Socialist Democrats did not know for a fact that your friend Saddam had any weapons of mass destruction. Now they the Socialist Democrats could have veto the War effort in the beginning since they knew there was no WMD’s. Hell Saddam himself could have prevented the War by letting everybody in to inspect without any restriction and he would have still be running Iraq with Jimmy McDermott. Yep you are right the Socialist Democrats knew all the time that there was no WND’s just to win the election. RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Commentby klake— 11/12/06@ 6:10 pm

    —————

    Why Klake good to see you stopped crying in your beer. What is with this socialist Democrats stuff? In your eyes is anyone not walking in lock step with the lying deserter in chief a “socialist” or something? Anyone that doesn’t think to top 1% should be making money hand over fist while the other 99% of us lose ground to inflation is a socialist? So anyone opposing our imperial expansion a “terrorist” right?

    Why don’t you wake up and smell the dead rotting corpses. If Americans listened to Jim McDermott instead of a lying deserter, and his lying staff, we wouldn’t be facing this disaster in Iraq, and we could have spent the last 3 years hunting terrorists, instead of just creating them.

    For anyone to believe a word Bush says they have to be truly insane.

    Now for the good news.

    The 2nd part of the lies told before the invasion will be released in January, and it won’t be pretty from what I understand. I assume it will be documenting exactly what Bush was told, and then exactly what he told Americans which was the opposite. It is called lying us into a war. It is also called treason.

    The difference between me, and you wingnuts, is the simple fact that all facts support my positions. Oh by the way, it looks like a majority of Americans also believe the same thing.

    It looks like Rove’s politics of fear, smear, and deception has finally hit the wall of truth. All the photo ops, soundbites, and GOP talking points, along with the corporate cash, and corporate owned media couldn’t keep the truth from finally getting to the American People.

    The people have spoken, and they are sick of the Republican Sleazebag Liars.

    Are you?

  50. 54

    Facts Support My Positions spews:

    Comment by Facts Support My Positions— 11/12/06@ 7:59 pm
    MR. FACTS YOU DON’T HAVE ALL THE FACTS AND YOUR SOCIALIST DEMOCRAT FRIENDS DON’T POSCESS THEM EITHER. Now they did the best they could with the information at hand. It now appears that the only two people on this planet that didn’t know Saddam did not have WMD’s were Jimmy McDermott and his brother Saddam. The one thing that is real clear is that you know nothing about terrorist and how they recruit their victims to fight for their ideology and religion. Saddam friends and Osama Bin Laudin thanks you for your support and sent all the money to Jimmy McDermott in Seattle.

    Commentby klake— 11/12/06@ 8:33 pm

    ————————

    C’mon Klake. All the information they had stated Saddam had no wmd’s. There was not one shred of proof. If you think we invaded Iraq because we had to keep the world free of WMD’s then you definitely haven’t read the Project For A New American Century’s website.

    We invaded Iraq for a number of reasons. The fact the Saddam had WMD’s was just not one of them. It was the only reason really stupid murder fantasizers could get behind 100%!

    Remember when Drumheller went to the CIA headquarters and said he had proof Saddam did not have WMD’s, and they told him it was about regime change, and not intelligence.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories.....7749.shtml

    These are not my words. They are the words of the top CIA man in Europe.

    We were lied into war. Period. Face it.

    When it comes to fighting Islamic Jihadists, and truly defeating, or weakening them, there are a number of things that would need to be done. You can rest assured Bush will never do any of them….. Bush thinks the best way to fight terror is to make more terrorists…..

    So Klake. Do you think there are more terrorists today, or less than on 9-11-2001?

    Do you think America is more respected today, or more hated?

    Do you think America is safer, or faces a far greater threat?

    Be honest……

  51. 55

    Daddy Love spews:

    This has got to stop:

    In morgues across Iraq where capacity stretches beyond thin, bodies are even being turned away.

    “We have to reject them,” Hadi al-Itabi of the morgue in Kut, southeast of Baghdad, said he told men who turned in the bodies of six slain border policeman last week. “We just don’t have enough cold storage.”

    Iraq’s bureaucracy of death is overwhelmed.

  52. 57

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sorry trollfucks, but the people have spoken and it looks like I’m gonna continue ripping you unpatriotic, America-hating, Constitution-shredding, fascist traitors a new one.

  53. 58

    Don Joe spews:

    Roger, don’t you think it’s a little unfair that you’ve limited voting to members of your immediate family?

  54. 59

    Facts Support My Positions spews:

    Sorry trollfucks, but the people have spoken and it looks like I’m gonna continue ripping you unpatriotic, America-hating, Constitution-shredding, fascist traitors a new one.

    Commentby Roger Rabbit— 11/12/06@ 9:22 pm

    ——————

    I’ll 2nd that bunny man!

    After what they did to Clinton…… Sick bastards…..

  55. 60

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    THE GOLDWATER REVOLUTION DIED THIS WEEK

    Newsweek columnist Jonathan Alter argues Tuesday’s election was the death knell for Goldwater conservatism.

    By Jonathan Alter
    Newsweek

    Nov. 20, 2006 issue – The Category 4 political hurricane of 2006 was more than a referendum on an unpopular war and president: it signals the end of the conservative tide that began rising 40 years ago; it’s the end of a pernicious six-year experiment in “governing for the base” ….

    Pat Buchanan and I rarely agree, but he rightly points out that the election marked the exhaustion of the movement that Barry Goldwater launched with his 1964 campaign. The intellectual vitality and coherence that once characterized modern conservatism have been shattered.

    Karl Rove is still arguing that the hot issues of this election—Iraq, corruption, sexual hypocrisy—are only “transitory.” He’s ignoring deep fissures in his party. Neocons have been discredited and theocons dispirited. Libertarians feel betrayed by big spenders, incompetent interventionists and moralizing busybodies. In the Schiavo case, in which 70 percent of voters thought Washington should have butted out, Republicans drove a wedge through their own ranks. Same with immigration, which pits the free-trade business wing against nativist Lou Dobbsians. Most important, the stitching that was meant to hold the GOP’s big tent together contained none of the hope and optimism essential to success in American politics. Fear failed.

    It failed among the young (18 to 29), who were evenly divided four years ago, but this time gave the Democrats a 20-point edge. It failed among Hispanics, who favored Democrats by 69 to 30 percent. And it even failed among white soccer moms and office-park dads, who turned the American suburbs an unrecognizable shade of blue. The 49-state GOP landslides of 1972 and 1984 are now distant memories, as onetime bellwether states like California, Illinois, Pennsylvania, New Jersey and even Ohio trend heavily toward the Democrats. Texas and the Old Confederacy are no competition.

    To recover, conservatives plan to return to what they call the “core principles” of small government and lower taxes. But there’s a reason they abandoned budget balancing: it’s a loser politically. There just aren’t many votes in it, and that’s why Republicans didn’t cut spending. People want the government to deliver for them. …

    Their peril has its origins in Bush’s highly divisive effort to intensify the conservative movement instead of governing from the center. …

    So the Conservative Era is over … Bush … must now admit that America is not Dittohead Nation. He is free of the one-party rule that kept him from being pragmatic — the … ingredient in every successful presidency. …

    For Bush, there are opportunities for consensus … on Iraq … immigration, Social Security reform, energy … (and) tax cuts, which he could shift from the wealthy to the middle class. The … interest of the president in his legacy and the Democratic Congress in putting points on the board are aligned … this alignment has the potential to give Bush new political life — and his party a chance to avoid the grim fate of all extremists in American political history.

    http://tinyurl.com/yaatxu

  56. 61

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    82 (continued)

    I didn’t do a count, but it appears 98% of them equate Democrats with terrorists. No wonder the independents that Republicans lost in droves last Tuesday no longer take what Republicans say seriously. No wonder we liberals call them “wingnuts.” They are, in fact, nuts.

  57. 63

    Another TJ spews:

    Of course, the guy mailing white powder out to Democrats and media figures is right-wing … Commentby Daddy Love— 11/13/06@ 9:13 am

    Of course he is – probably a freeper…

    Cosnervatives sure are sick bastards, huh?!

    Commentby Roger Rabbit

    We have a winner! Sure enough, he’s a Freeper.

  58. 64

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    ” … his ‘stay-and-fight strategy to win back America.’” ???

    You mean MY stay-and-fight strategy. He probably read it first on HorsesAss, posted by Roger Rabbit during the darkest days of the Bush Dictatorship. Ahhhh … that’s been the story of my life … I dream up the big ideas, and other people get credit for them. We rabbits just don’t get the respect we deserve.

  59. 65

    The Socialist spews:

    Bah humbug I think you should move back to Canida to the tiny torys could probibly you’se your help there becoase the rest of Canida isn’t very happy with them and there going to be a bad tory butt kicking up there pretty soon and I would hate for you to miss it

  60. 66

    The Socialist spews:

    Goldy do you monitor your blog while you are gabbing away there?

    If you do please menton Burnie Sanders as being the first Socialist Seniter in history WHOO HOO.

    Thank you

  61. 67

    The Socialist spews:

    Goldy you never mention to me you were a communist to

    Well I will have to refure to you as Comrade Gold from now own

    Did you here that the rest of you mooks Gold is a Socialist to so thier…

  62. 68

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    80

    Roger, don’t you think it’s a little unfair that you’ve limited voting to members of your immediate family? Commentby Don Joe— 11/12/06@ 9:41 pm

    No. The Republicans do it, so why can’t I?

  63. 69

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    We do have a serious family problem, though. Know anybody who’ll push my cousin Vinny in front of a car?

  64. 70

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Good show tonight Goldy, with interesting callers and viewpoints. I’ve always believed the “Reagan Democrats” and hardhat Democrats eventually would be forced back to the Democratic Party by the extreme antagonism of the cheap labor conservatives toward labor and the middle class.

    The key dynamic is not so much that the percentage of the nation’s income and wealth going to the top has double in the last 30 years. It’s the fact that the working class is now going backward economically. People are worse off than they were 6 years ago, in absolute terms. Add to that the implosion of employer-based health care and retirement, and we not only have falling real wages but also tremendous economic insecurity. People know they’re being fucked, and it was inevitable that the fucking would get so bad that they could no longer give precedence to the “wedge” issues the GOP sold so successfully in the 1980s and 1990s. Inevitable because the greed of the Greedy Class is boundless and there would be no end to it, ever. I think Bush’s attempt to hand over a large part of the Social Security Trust Fund to the same Wall Street sharks who have looted the companies people work for, their pension funds, and their savings was the final straw that opened people’s eyes to what they were trading away for things like stopping gay marriage. And the American public, by an approximately 70% majority that has held constant since 1970, really does not want legalized abortion to go away. Really, they don’t.

    The hardest thing for Democrats to do — but which they must do to hold onto their new majority — is to deal with its peace faction and walk the fine line between “protecting the country” and “military adventurism.” To gain the electorate’s trust, the Democrats must be the “just and necessary war” party. The American public thinks appeasement and dangerous and believes some wars have to be fought. Democrats should be the party that never goes to war unjustly or unnecessarily — but never hesitates to defend our country and, when we have to fight, we fight like hell and know how to win.

  65. 71

    headless lucy spews:

    Bechtel Cuts and Runs
    Bechtel, which probably should itself be included in the “Axis of Evil” for its long-time corruption, influence-peddling, and bleeding dry the poor in the world without a second thought, decided several days ago to pull out of Iraq. This despite its failure to complete much of the work it was paid to do. Left behind is a country of people who feel betrayed and are losing hope that Iraq reconstruction will ever be completed. Bechtel claims it failed because much of the $2.3 billion it received to complete a number of reconstruction tasks (water-treatment systems, electricity plants, sewage systems, airports and roads) had to be spent on security instead. But in the eyes of many Iraqis, the corporation is leaving Iraq worse off than it was under the rule of Saddam Hussein – including during the last twelve years of his rein under economic sanctions.
    Continue reading “Bechtel Cuts and Runs”
    http://preemptivekarma.com/

  66. 72

    klake spews:

    Socialist is this what you and your friends striving for in this country? You may get your chance with the Socialist Democrats running the show.
    In Cuba, any journalist who does not work for the official media is considered to be an “enemy of the state” or a “mercenary”. The changeover at the summit of the state between the Castro brothers and the promises made by Cuba in relation to human rights at the Non-Aligned Summit in Havana have unfortunately done nothing to alter this state of affairs.
    There are currently 24 of them who have paid with their freedom for having founded an independent news agency, written for a dissident review or spoken to a media in the Cuban Diaspora. Some are serving prison sentences of 14-27 years. Others are being held without trial. Another, despite being put on trial, has never been told what his sentence was. All of them however suffer the same overcrowding, appalling prison conditions and mistreatment from the prison authorities that are the lot of more than 300 prisoners of opinion on the island.
    http://www.rsf.org/rubrique.php3?id_rubrique=367

  67. 73

    headless lucy spews:

    re 29: Take back the money — starting with every fucking personal dollar that the CEO has. How’zat for an incentive to honesty?

  68. 74

    headless lucy spews:

    re 30: So , klake, why haven’t the Republicans done somrthing about Cuba — besides illegally buy their cigars?

  69. 75

    headless lucy spews:

    http://www.buzzflash.com/articles/contributors/551

    I GREW UP AS A REPUBLICAN, SO WHY DO I FEEL JOY TODAY?
    I feel joy because of the powerful message the voters have given the Republican Party. I feel that joy because the Republican Party is no longer my party and since they no longer stand for an open and free market.
    I feel joy for their loss, because the conservative movement has been hijacked by corporate interests that have no interest in fair competition or an open and free market.
    The drug industry, for instance, doesn’t want lower priced drugs from other countries. They want to block drugs from Canada and Europe. The auto companies don’t want foreign imports. They want trade barriers. The insurance companies don’t want universal healthcare. They want to continue to mint new CEO billionaires on the back of the American People.
    So I feel joy, because in spite of all the money those organizations have heaped over Republican candidates, they lost. I feel joy because perhaps, after all, this is a new beginning.
    I feel joy because Rumsfeld is gone and I never believed for a second there were any weapons of mass destruction, and I was abhorred when I witnessed a war hysteria that reminded me of a dark past in European history. I feel joy that the American people finally stood up and said enough is enough.

  70. 77

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    I don’t understand all this talk about Democrats having no agenda, no plan, not standing for anything. That’s b.s. At a minimum, Democrats stand for protecting the social and economic gains they won for the working and middle classes over the last 100 years. Now those things are under attack and we’ll lose them unless people vote Democratic. There are ruthless people who not only want to build unfairness and inequality into our system, but want to be able to perpetuate it through future generations. They can be defeated only if the majority of voters reject the wingnut agenda and vote against GOP candidates.

  71. 78

    Daddy Love spews:

    Hey, maybe I was wrong. Maybe NO Republican “heads will roll” in the aftermath of their defeat. After all, blind loyalty to the central command and a ridiculously blindered refusal to accept facts that contradict their ideology are the hallmarks of our current Republican officeholders. Given those characteristics, don’t they just vote the old guys back in, and stay the course in both their rhetoric and their policy pronouncements?

    Wingnuts, who’s with me? Boehner, Blunt, and Lott for leadership, and stay the course in Iraq!

    (anybody got any more of that white powder?)

  72. 79

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    30

    In Cuba, any journalist who does not work for the official media is considered to be an “enemy of the state” or a “mercenary” blah blah blah. Commentby klake— 11/12/06@ 5:48 pm

    Klake — thank you for your concern about journalists in Cuban jails. Now could we get some concern out of you for the journalists in Iraq who are … like … dead? You know — the ones targeted by American troops?

  73. 80

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    If you’re a journalist who writes something the Cuban regime doesn’t like, you get thrown in jail. If you’re a journalist who writes something the U.S. regime doesn’t like, they kill you. It’s not much of a choice, but I think the average journalist is probably better off in Cuba than he is in Iraq.

  74. 81

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    82

    Did any of you read the letters to the editor of the Seattle Republican Times today? ALL the letters, with the exception of the very last one, were from WHINY Republicans….. wonder why? Commentby Karen— 11/13/06@ 9:59 am

    Probably because the publisher is a whiny Republican.

  75. 82

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    We also face the problem of deprogramming millions of voters who swallowed the GOP lies.

  76. 83

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    I thought the Republican school board member from Issaquah who called in to Goldy’s show just doesn’t get it. He claimed the schools don’t need more money, but every problem he mentioned requires more money. For example, the fact that the state provides only half the funding for transportation, and he mentioned “unfunded mandates” in the special education area. Well, if those aren’t money issues, then what are they?

    But we can’t solve these problems by asking lower income taxpayers who already bear a grossly disproporation share of the local and state tax burden to pay higher taxes. You can’t solve the school funding issues in this state without first enacting tax reform. The answer to inadequate state funding of schools is not lawsuits against the state but a state income tax. Suppose this gentleman’s district did win its special education lawsuit against the state — then what? They still won’t get money the Legislature doesn’t have. They’ll still have to comply with state and federal laws requiring public schools to serve special education population. You can’t pay for school buses out of thin air. Nothing can be done in education without more money, and you can’t ask people at the bottom end of the income spectrum — who are already paying 4 times as much of their income as the top of the spectrum — to pony up more.

    Our schools need a state income tax. Why can’t that guy see this?

  77. 84

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Hardhat Republicans complain the “entitlement mentality” is out of control in this country. But they’re the same people who want our public officials to give in to billionaire sports team owners who demand expensive stadiums, arenas, and tracks at taxpayer expense. At OUR expense! I agree the “entitlement mentality” is out of control. We give these greedy bastards what they want, and 10 years later it isn’t good enough and they want us to tear it down and give them an even more expensive new one! City taxpayers forked out $75 million to completely rebuild Key Arena and 10 years later the Sonics want another $200 million from us! Fuck these welfare bums! They can go back to Oklahoma and take their teams with them. Seattle voters told them exactly what they thought of their shameless panhandling last Tuesday. No more welfare for billionaires!

  78. 85

    Daddy Love spews:

    Naturally, Anonymous stole that post.

    http://www.alzarqawismomsblog.com/

    Do you gus EVER write your own commentary> I know it runs heavily to “You’re all appeasers and loooooosers! French! Jon Carry!” but at least they’re your own words and not someone else’s words you’re passing off as your own.

  79. 86

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    39

    I’m just watching and waiting for the Republican bloodbath. … Get your popcorn. Commentby Daddy Love— 11/12/06@ 7:59 pm

    Let the finger pointing, backbiting, and headrolling begin! Best show in town!

    HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR

    Eat shit, wingfucks! :D

  80. 87

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    70

    dummy; what party in Seattle jammed us on 3 stadiums? I recall Key Arena was a fav of the mainstream Dem leadership, same for stupid football fiedl, even baseball Commentby righton— 11/13/06@ 6:37 am

    How would voting for the Corporate Welfare Party make that better? Huh?

  81. 89

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    One more thing — Republicans in the legislature and county council voted for the stadium taxes.

  82. 90

    Karen spews:

    Did any of you read the letters to the editor of the Seattle Republican Times today? ALL the letters, with the exception of the very last one, were from WHINY Republicans….. wonder why?

  83. 91

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Anon @ 75

    Pelosi is going to be Speaker of the House and 3rd in line for the presidency — i.e., she becomes president when Bush and Cheney are impeached. Suck on it!

  84. 92

    rhp6033 spews:

    RR at 64: What’s the difference between a welfare cheat and a Haliburton executive who cheats the U.S. taxpayers out of money for Iraqi “reconstruction” projects which are not performed?

    Answer: Hundreds of Millions of dollars, and no prosecution (yet).

  85. 93

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    76

    Of course, the guy mailing white powder out to Democrats and media figures is right-wing … Commentby Daddy Love— 11/13/06@ 9:13 am

    Of course he is — probably a freeper. Even our local wingnut blog promotes terrorism:

    Congratulations Speaker Pelosi, now let the bombs fall where they may. My prediction: terror attack on domestic soil passenger aircraft within the next six months. Casualties in the 2-300 range. And, unfortunately, maybe that’s just what we need. It’s obvious people don’t remember what happened 5 years ago.
    Posted by FullContactPolitics at November 8, 2006 10:52 AM

    http://tinyurl.com/ydlfwu

    Cosnervatives sure are sick bastards, huh?!

  86. 94

    Don Joe spews:

    Anonymoose, I’ll ask you the same question I’ve asked other wingnuts. Perhaps you can answer it, since none have been able to answer it before: why should I allow the uninformed opinions of our enemies to determine what’s best for my country?

  87. 96

    The Judy Miller Show spews:

    Can you imagine the cynical laughter in the smoky, Republican cloisters of power as they carefully crafted ways to rape and reduce the American middle class of their money and influence while simultaneously pushing an agenda of opposing gay marriage and proposing “flag burning” amendments to the constitution?

  88. 97

    The Judy Miller Show spews:

    Republicans: If you want to posture like a macho man better not be a marshmallow man.

  89. 99

    Anonymous spews:

    http://www.alzarqawismomsblog.com/?i=1428

    Al Zarqawi’s Mom

    I AM HAVING RETURNED!
    Monday 13th November 2006
    Greeting to Mr. and Mrs. Pigeater and all you baco bits at sea! Have you been not hitting me? I have been having the close calls with you too! The Jews who run the internet tubes have performed the profane ritual of the destroying of my magic internet tube making box so I have not been able to make the postings to my bliss-making blog. With the hoping that this posting will sneak through their Walls Of Blocking Flame, I have forwarded to them the ema’il from Nigeria so that they will be distracted by the moneysmell! I must be writing of the quickness so I will just tell you that I am having the best time of the life thanks to the great people of America, even if you are all swineherding Jew lovers! You have done what this poor mother of an innocent son killed in an illegal war could only make the sleep pictures of – you have defeated the terrorist Bush, Allah (and Foley and the Jew Abramoff) be praised! I have been staying at my new best friend Nancy Pelosivic’s house and the cards and flowers she has received from her Prayers Of The Watering Hole have made me feel very much of the joy I tell you! I am thinking of particulars the card from al-Ec’B’al-Dwin and the flowers from al-Zawahiri were very much the nice. I am hoping to introduce the two of them one day – I am thinking they will become no eating friends!

    I must go before the Jews realize the ema’il from the Land Of The Dark Ones is a bigger hoax than your blasphemous lie about landing on the moon! Ah, but based on how you are rock and rolling the vote, soon you will all be learning truth in your madrassas! The doorbell is the sound of my sushi arriving. I asked for extra wahabi – may the Jewpanese delivery merchant burn for eternity in a sea of flaming kamikaze shots if he does the messing up of my order again!

    Murthahu Akbar!

    SP – I am not knowing when I will be able to perform the bliss-making blog posting again as the intertube-running Jews are very arty! But I am of the hopeful that it will be soon, Inshallah!

    SSP – Have you seen the Jew Gutfeld on the Jackal News Channel? Even for a pigeater, he is looking like he has been loving the bacon too much, does he not?

    SSSP – I saw the Borat documentation and while his Jew views are to be given the award, I had much of the trouble understanding him as he is not speaking the very well England. Also he is a smelly Kazakh. In my country we had a riddle: If you are on a plane with two Kazakhs and you have only the one bullet, who should you do the shooting of? Of course it is a magic question – the answer is that once you set off the bomb attached to your chest and blow the plane into the sea it doesn’t matter, for then you will be in Paradise where there are no Jews and no smelly Kazakhs!

    Afifah!