Happy Thanksgiving, dear Reader. And thanks for all the unique IP hits, page views, and comments over the past year.
Here is a Thanksgiving-themed collection of media clips and open thread, best explored in a tryptophan stupor….
Larry David’s Thanksgiving special.
Suzie Sampson: Thanksgiving and post election sad:
Obama pardons turkeys.
SlateTV: PETA to Obama, “don’t bother with that pardon.”
When turkey’s attack!
BEST THANKSGIVING CLIP EVAR!!!: The Thanksgiving Massacre!:
Raw food Thanksgiving.
Jennifer Granholm: much to be thankful for!
Jimmy Fallon’s Thanksgiving Do Not Read list.
Mark Fiore: Thanks, Turkey!
Learn about Canadian Thanksgiving!
Jonathan Mann: Zombie Turkey:
Jimmy Fallon: Pros and cons of the Macy’s Thanksgiving day parade.
Sam Seder: Thanksgiving with your “independent” relatives.
It’s over now. Go wash the dishes….
Michael spews:
Happy Thanksgiving everyone.
MikeBoyScout spews:
Thank-you HA front pagers for another year of insightful and humorous posts.
May your day be joyful and all of your appetites be satiated.
Happy Turkey Day to all.
Michael spews:
Forbes writer and righty wonder boy Mark Hendrickson goes down with the ship!
Tea for everyone spews:
Shame on Owebamma – Blame We Can Believe In!
Roger Rabbit spews:
@3 Gluttonous bakery workers? Because they wouldn’t eat an 8% pay cut and loss of their pensions while the CEO tripled his own salary? Er, wonder boy, this is America where people are allowed to, you know, quit their jobs. You can’t force people to work on any terms.
SeattleMike spews:
Thanksgiving memories:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?f.....jKF7aQthcQ
http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=50135686n
http://www.kewego.com/video/iLyROoafYtDe.html
Celebrate it like it’s luau: forget about eating until you get full – keep eating until you get TIRED.
Happy T-Day, everyone!
Roger Rabbit spews:
@3 (continued) Hendrickson stoopid: “If people lose their jobs because they committed economic hara-kiri, should they still be entitled to receive taxpayer-funded unemployment?”
Unemployment is “taxpayer-funded” in a strictly technical sense, but in reality workers pay for it. The unemployment tax is not a general tax levied on everyone. It is a payroll tax. It’s nominally paid by employers, but in reality, like all other payroll costs the employer considers it part of the employee’s total compensation. This is also true of the employer contribution to FICA — does anyone really think employers pay those taxes as a gift to employees? The reality is that all payroll taxes are, in effect, deducted by the employer from the employee’s pay. A $50,000-a-year job may pay only $35,000 in cash compensation because of the employer’s expenses for pension and health benefits, FICA taxes, injured workman comp taxes, unemployment taxes, etc. But those payments are still employee compensation. So Mark, no, those benefits aren’t “taxpayer-funded.” The employees paid for their unemployment insurance — in case their employer went bust, as it just did.
Roger Rabbit spews:
@3 (continued) Here’s the money quote:
“Maybe, just maybe, it will dawn on Americans that the same stubborn and ultimately destructive denial of reality that brought down Hostess and possibly killed the innocent Twinkie is the same willful madness that we see in Washington, where ALF-CIO boss Richard Trumka flatly opposes government spending cuts and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid refuses even to consider Social Security reform.”
Yes, this is what it’s really all about: At a time when corporations are making record profits, CEOs are paid hundreds of times their workers’ wages, and Wall Street is minting dozens of new billionaires, we’re being told the country can’t afford to pay living wages to its workers and elderly pensioners now have to consent to social security and medicare givebacks to the rich don’t have to pay taxes and can wallow in even more obscenely-gotten wealth. Fuck no, we the American working class won’t agree to that.
YLB gloats "Paul Ryan is Shocked.. Shocked.." spews:
Bird went in the oven at 1:30.. We should feast about 6:30 pm or so..
Time to take in a little football. Checkin’ out RG3..
Happy Eats!
Serial conservative spews:
Celebrate it like it’s luau: forget about eating until you get full – keep eating until you get TIRED.
Eat until it begins to hurt a little. Then load up one more plate.
Serial conservative spews:
Amazingly, Reuters uses the same headline to describe the Bakers’ union idiocy that I would, had I written the piece:
Twinkies bakers say they’d rather lose jobs than take pay cuts
http://www.reuters.com/article.....6U20121122
Bakers’ union head honcho has an awfully fatalist outlook on the whole thing:
Bakery union President Frank Hurt has said that any labor agreements would only be temporary as Hostess was doomed anyway.
Michael spews:
@10
Hostess is going under because no one eats their products anymore. The CEO greed and union stuff are just sideline issues.
What I find more interesting is that, the righty’s, who are saying they need to make some changes to remain relevant, are saying the saying and doing the same old thing on this one.
YLB gloats "Paul Ryan is Shocked.. Shocked.." spews:
Happy T-Day!!!
YLB gloats "Paul Ryan is Shocked.. Shocked.." spews:
Damn! I can barely move..
Need an hour to recover for dessert…
YLB gloats "Paul Ryan is Shocked.. Shocked.." spews:
Mitt Romney ’47 percent’ watch: 47.5
The “Mittenfruede” continues!
Roger Rabbit spews:
Remember Shelly Dankert’s hilarious election-night drunken rant on You Tube? Well, here’s another Republican suffering acute distress, but he’s much less funny.
“A Jacksonville police officer has quit after admitting he told colleagues that he would volunteer to assassinate President Barack Obama. Sam Koivisto … retired earlier this month while facing an internal investigation into his comments to other officers after the election. When questioned by the Jacksonville Sheriff’s Office integrity unit, he said he also didn’t care if a nuclear explosion killed everyone in the Northeastern U.S because they supported Obama. He told the investigators his comments were hyperbole and not actual threats.”
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireS.....a-17785536
Roger Rabbit Commentary: This really illustrates the GOP’s problem: Being a bunch of angry white guys isn’t much of a platform to run on, if you want votes from anyone besides angry white guys.
Roger Rabbit spews:
@10 “union idiocy”
Let me ask you this: What would you say if President Obama gave in to outrageous demands from Iran or North Korea? You’d call him an appeaser, right? Then why should the bakers give in to outrageous demands from the hedge fund owners of Hostess? Don’t you realize if they did to “save” their jobs, management would demand more and more concessions? No, my friend, you are wrong; the bakers were right to draw a line in the sand.
MikeBoyScout spews:
I’m painfully stuffed with very good food. I blame Obama.
No Time For Fascists spews:
Without trust, without a shared sense of sacrifice, the workers have reached a point where having the job is no better than not having a job where they have to sacrifice but the bosses do not.
I like Rabbit’s take on it.
At some point, it is like negotiating with blackmailers, if the workers give in, they will just be asked to give in again, and again, and again.
Conservatives, how would you feel if you were ask to take a 90% percent cut in pay and 90% of your benefits for the good of the company while they got a 900% raise. Would you strike or would you suck it up for the good of the company and just be grateful your lord let you work for them?
Never mind, nothing gets inside the “I got mine” blinders of a conservative.
Roger Rabbit spews:
@17 Obama upgraded America from “a chicken in every pot” to “a turkey in every oven,” better known as “Chicken Ver. 2.0.”
Roger Rabbit spews:
Cracks are appearing in Grover Norquist’s anti-tax coalition. Actually, deep crevasses. Today, GOP Sen. Saxby Chambliss became the latest signer of Norquist’s anti-tax pledge to repudiate it.
… Chambliss … said this week that [Norquist’s] ideas stand in the way of finding a solution for ballooning debt. “Norquist has no plan to pay this debt down,” said Chambliss …. “I care a lot more about [my country] than I do Grover Norquist.”
http://politicalticker.blogs.c.....?hpt=hp_t3
Roger Rabbit Commentary: History may remember the 2012 election as a referendum on Norquist’s idea of “drowning government in the bathtub” by starving it of revenue. That idea may have run its course like a bad cold. Norquist must realize he lost that ideological battle when guys like Chambliss start flipping him off.
Roger Rabbit spews:
Here’s a fascinating quote from a CNBC article about Jeb Bush mulling a 2016 run:
“George W. Bush … continues to be criticized by many conservatives for presiding over bailouts and expanding the size of government.”
http://www.cnbc.com/id/49939115
Roger Rabbit Commentary: Wow! No mention of the lies, corruption, and incompetence that were the hallmark of Dubya’s governance. Conservatives still live in their bubble. They’re still fixated on “drowning the beast” of government “in the bathtub” by cutting taxes for the rich and starving the social safety net of funding. In short, conservatives haven’t learned a thing from the ass-kicking voters just dished to them. They’re no better at reading election returns than they are at reading pre-election polls. As Forrest Gump said, “Stupid is as stupid does.”
Roger Rabbit spews:
I would love to see Republicans run in 2016 on a platform saying the auto bailouts were a mistake. Hey, if beating your head against a wall doesn’t work, just hit the wall harder!
Tea for everyone spews:
The Progressive idiology that you can just spend yourself out of debt is just a giant Debt bubble waiting to burst.
Hows that spending yourself out of debt working for all of your households out there?
Yus Askin!
YLB gloats "Paul Ryan is Shocked.. Shocked.." spews:
IMPEACH!!! GREECE!!
YLB gloats "Paul Ryan is Shocked.. Shocked.." spews:
Is it that time for yet another Bill O’Asshat “War on Christmas”???
Yawwwwn.. Of course.. As perennial as most right wing failures.
Michael spews:
@24
I’m shopping online right now for a Raindeer call and 3″ shells for my shotgun. I’m gonna bag Santa.
Michael spews:
The Canadian news keeps talking about how they need China, Malaysia, and Singapore’s cash to develop their natural resources. North America doesn’t have the capital to do the job. That’s not good. Get used to riding your bike, mending your clothes, and growing some of your own food shopping and driving are gonna get pricey.
Tea for everyone spews:
Get those Credit Cards out. Works for the Government, must work for all of us. Who cares if it ever gets paid back, we’re racking up 1 Million every 40 seconds in new debt.
See if any of you Black Friday Shoppers can top that.
Please put me on your list!
Roger Rabbit spews:
@25 Get yourself one of these.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M42_Duster
They work great against ground targets, too.
Michael spews:
@27
Now we’re cooking with gas.
No Time For Fascists spews:
When man invented the bicycle he reached the peak of his attainments. Here was a machine of precision and balance for the convenience of man. And (unlike subsequent inventions for man’s convenience) the more he used it, the fitter his body became. Here, for once, was a product of man’s brain that was entirely beneficial to those who used it, and of no harm or irritation to others.
~Elizabeth West
Gman spews:
Act of God Punishing those heathen heterosexuals.
http://www.cnn.com/2012/11/23/.....?hpt=hp_t2
No Time For Fascists spews:
@30 Don’t be a jerk. We have to be better than the asshole gay bigots. If we talk like them, we don’t come across as being better than them and that won’t win over hearts and minds. That just comes across as nasty. Save the venom for those who deserve it, not the bystanders.
Roger Rabbit spews:
@28 I gotta caution ya, though, wear ear plugs! Those 40-mikes have a hell of a muzzle blast. It’s been over 43 years since
I fired one of those and my ears are still ringing.