Snake oil

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What does it say about the state of our current news media when the most anticipated and insightful news coverage and analysis of the week is coming from a fake news show? Reallywatch the whole thing.

The subject matter aside, what I find most instructive here is the way Jon Stewart’s total lack of pretense and decorum results in one of the most brutally honest interviews you will ever have the privilege of watching on TV.  Unfettered by the journalistic shackles of objectivity and fairness (and even free to employ—gasp—foul language when appropriate), Stewart manages to level a devastating critique of the financial news industry, while demonstrating by example the sort of pander-free directness that is too often missing from traditional coverage.

At one point Stewart rails against “the gap between what CNBC advertises itself as, and what it is,” telling Jim Cramer, “Look, we’re both snake oil salesmen to a certain extent, but we do label the show as snake oil here…” a critique that mirrors some of my own complaints about our local news media.  After years of newsroom cutbacks, the all important space between stenography and opinion has shrunk to the point where news-papers are fast becoming neither, and yet when you hear many of the legacy journalists talk about their own sacred role in our democracy versus that of the barbarian bloggers at the gate, you’d think that nothing has changed but the business model.

But it is not just the Internet or the economy that is driving down both subscription and ad revenues; it is the product itself. Publishers like to console themselves by pointing to their rising online readership, but, well, you get what you pay for… which may help explain why so many readers today prefer to get their news for free.

Comments

  1. 1

    gbrecke spews:

    SNAKE OIL?

    as soon as I read this, I quit reading..

    “Unfettered by the journalistic shackles of objectivity and fairness”

    If you think the Media has been paying any attention to ethics or what journalists should do, I want to know what you’ve been smoking?

  2. 2

    Mr. Cynical spews:

    Cramer is a loud-mouthed dunce…who, like many failures, ends up actually believing his own BS.
    I watch Cramer occassionally and totally disregard his advice.

    Cramer was the Optimist almost the entire time the Markets tanked…causing lots of sheep to lose their retirement because they believed in him.

    It’s good to see Cramer being pinned against the wall. No sense of pity for the man from me.

  3. 3

    ArtFart spews:

    Observing the onscreen behavior of Jon Stewart and Jim Cramer (in general, not just in their latest confrontation), it’s not entirely clear who’s the comedian. Do a quick search for Cramer on YouTube and you’ll get a series of clips of him contradicting himself again and again over the last year and a half. There’s one from around last June where he was in a panic, literally screaming at the top of his lungs about how the sky was about to fall (which, of course, turned out to be true). Another clip from shortly thereafter has him reassuring all that everything was going to be just fine. I don’t remember whether or not that was also the one where he delivered his entire rant while staring directly into Erin Burnett’s cleavage.

  4. 4

    Don Joe spews:

    @ 1

    Would the irony have been more obvious if Goldy had put “objectivity” and “fairness” in quotes? (Well, actually, if Goldy had put those words in quotes, the irony would have turned into sarcasm, but who’s standing on such pedantry anyway?)

    Which reminds me, I find little more amusing in this whole issue than those instances where wingnuts start citing television ratings to validate the coverage of networks like Fox News.

    I’m an economist by training, so I have a tendency to place at least some of the blame for the putridity of news products on the consumers, including those who stop reading a piece when they encounter something that superficially offends their intellectual sensibilities.

    The “truth” you’re getting is only what you want to hear, then you’re not getting the whole truth.

  5. 5

    YellowPup spews:

    I found the Stewart-Cramer confrontation to be a bit anti-climactic, not the catharsis everyone was looking for.

    Stewart got some good shots in and dropped an s/f-bomb or two, but Cramer won by just showing up. You could see how Cramer’s strategy changed over the week. He learned that you can’t fight satire, and so by the end of the week he started cozying up to Stewart by way of the Martha Stewart show. And then by the time he got to the Daily he was ready to concede all the main points and deliver his version of the exposed CEO: “You should be outraged by what I’ve done, I am outraged.”

    If you watch the entire YouTube video of Cramer bragging about lying to manipulate the market and spreading rumors to sandbag Apple, it seemed to me much more outrageous in original context than it comes off on the Daily, and the Daily just gave Cramer a way to apologize and agree to do better (which he obviously won’t).

    Cramer got off very easy.

  6. 7

    YellowPup spews:

    Continuing @5: An indictment and seeing Cramer on the perp walk in handcuffs would have been cathartic.

  7. 8

    spews:

    Stewart is a multi-millionaire. He, like everyone else, probably lost 25% to 40% of his money in the last 2 years. He’s angry about that. And he’s stupidly and misguidedly focusing all his anger toward one person; Jim Cramer.

  8. 10

    Gordon spews:

    @1 I totally agree.

    And Goldy, while the interview was great I find myself in one of those rare moments totally in disagreement with Jon Stewart here. I think his angle is wrong. It actually promotes a lack of critical thinking. Rather than place any hope in the talking heads, why not just promote “caveat emptor”? A dose of that would do everybody good. Why even pretend that there is such a thing as an honest financial expert? But more important that there is even such a creature as a financial expert. And more importantly why promote the idea that manipulation is some sort of omnipotent force in the markets? It isn’t. Stewart is promoting a hopelessly naive view of the stock market that does nobody any good. And sure he can come on TV and beat his chest after a 7000 point drop in the DOW but whatever. A little too late in that regard. Of course he doesn’t promote himself as an expert, at least not overtly.

    But let me be clear. Cramer is an idiot always has been, always will be. But it takes a bigger idiot to put any stock into what he says. Boooyahhs! aside.

    Case in point. That Cramer clip where he is talking about shorting stocks that is ancient news. I have followed AAPL for a few years now, I remember seeing that clip over a year ago. And I remember thinking it was worse than the TV show because it really does promote a naive view of the market. Namely that it can be manipulated by a few individuals. Sure a hedge fund can push in a few percentage points in either direction and try to play the timing game. But if anybody believes that the individuals can time the market they delusional.

    So let’s dispense with the naivete and promote a little caveat emptor. There are no shortcuts, and it is downright irresponsible to believe that you can put your trust in other people’s financial, especially if they are on TV.

    That being said there are sensible things that can be done. Reinstating the uptick rule, among others. But please don’t make us pretend that the greed on wall street is anything but. Caveat emptor will do more to your financial health than some silly notion that there are good guys and bad guys out there.

  9. 12

    Don Joe spews:

    @ 10

    Do a web search for “naked short selling.” Somewhere in that search, you’ll find a report by Bloomberg that exemplifies both what good financial reporting is about and affirms much of what Jon Stewart was saying in his interview with Cramer.

    It might also lead you to reassess your notion of naiveté.

  10. 13

    YellowPup spews:

    @1: I think the qualifier of “journalistic” in that quote is important.

    In journalism, what passes for objectivity is the presentation of opposing views at all costs. So, for example, reasonable views have to be balanced by a dispassionate presentation of unreasonable ones. This is what is so frustrating about the so-called MSM.

    Journalists are supposed to hold people to account as well as gather and report facts and the views of the usual experts. This is what Jon Stewart attacks and satirizes on his show all the time.

  11. 14

    The Truth spews:

    @3
    “Do a quick search for Cramer on YouTube and you’ll get a series of clips of him contradicting himself again and again over the last year and a half.”

    Yes, the quickest way to determine who is liberal let them keep talking. LOL!

  12. 15

    Gordon spews:

    @12

    Look I accept that there are moments of audacious market manipulation. Naked shorts and all that. I agree with reinstating the uptick rule. But there is more to it than that. And our current meltdown has no single and simple causal explanation.

    The fact is I put no faith in any talking head (or blog for that matter), Louis Rukeyser, and on down the line. And nobody should. Sure there are more responsible journalists out there. And many of them are worth listening to for perspective. But that doesn’t obviate one’s duty to get all the facts, listen to many different perspectives. The belief that you can put your trust in someone else’s opinion uncritically is naive, naked short selling or not. Caveat Emptor is the best medicine, not a hands off let the financial experts tell me what to do approach to investing.

  13. 17

    Puddybud, Hey it's the new year... spews:

    Cramer, big time Obama jockstrap.
    Oops… he’s contradicting himself now.
    What is different from his contradicting his stock market positions.

  14. 18

    Gordon spews:

    I just think the faux outrage over Cramer is a little silly. That is all. Another way of putting it.

    “If only there were evil people somewhere insidiously committing evil deeds and it were necessary only to separate them from the rest of us and destroy them. But the line dividing good and evil cuts through the heart of every human being. And who is willing to destroy a piece of his own heart?”

    ~Alexander Solzhenitsyn

  15. 19

    rhp6033 spews:

    “…After years of newsroom cutbacks, the all important space between stenography and opinion has shrunk to the point where news-papers are fast becoming neither….”

    I realized this on at least some level for quite a few years. But it really began to hit home just a few years ago when a fellow in public relations became involved in a non-profit with which I have been involved (board membership, etc.).

    Anyway, this guy volunteered to crank out news releases and send it to the media outlets, as a boost towards helping advertise the services of the non-profit organization, and to assist in fund-raising. I therefore had an opportunity to see how news releases were created and what was going on “behind the scenes” in the process.

    But what was really revealing was to open the paper a few days later and read the news release, reproduced in it’s entirity without editing, quotation marks, or attribution as to it’s source. The reporter was passing it off as something he had dug up through his own reporting. At first this seemed unusual to me, until I saw it repeated time and time again, in multiple news outlets, sometimes with minor changes or sometimes not.

    I mentioned this to the P.R. guy, and he just smiled and explained to me that the art of writing a press release is to essentially write the article for the reporter. The less work the reporter has to do, the more likely it will get published.

    So in the field of financial reporting, remember that quite a few of those “business analysis” stories are probably written by the P.R. department of the company which is being analyized.

  16. 20

    Irrational Exuberance spews:

    I feel goood. Jon tells truth; the dead-rabbit bounce goes on; the sun shines & shines. I’m so glad I almost voted for Obama. Him & TurboTax Tim, man, they’re miracle workers, saviors of a grateful nation.

    In gratitude, I’m changing my hateful ways. Instead of a mean-spirited homophobic anti-Semitic vicious Republican, I’m now a compassionate Republican, i.e. a Democrat. No more violent Don Wriggles Rabbit humor for me.

    Except about lawyers. Used to think the fuckers were maybe cheaper than civil war, but not any more. They should be slaughtered, every one, except the occasional unreconstructed conservative lawyer, like Piper. All the rest should be slaughtered after prolonged sexual torture. Not lethally injected — that would be cruel and unusal — but slaughtered like fucking pig-fucking pigs in a reeking slaughter house in reeking Chicago.

    Oh wait, sorry about that. I’m a Democrat now. I’m so glad that Cal’s precious life was saved by liberal lawyers who are looking out for me.

  17. 21

    Chris Stefan spews:

    @2
    Cynical,
    Actually you can make a fair bit of money by doing exactly the opposite of what Cramer says to do.

  18. 22

    Mr. Comical spews:

    re 4: I believe the proper nomenclature for the words “objectivity” and “fairness” if they had been put in quotes would have been ‘sardonic’. Sarcasm is a shade more biting than the addition of mere quotation marks would allow.

    But why stand on pedantry at this point in time and space? It is certain that I will not!

  19. 23

    Mr. Comical spews:

    re 17: Scott St. Clair, a self-described influential conservative pundit, has repeatedly pointed out that fear of self-contradiction is a prominent trait of the small-minded.

    Maybe he’s right. What do you think?

  20. 24

    Don Joe spews:

    @ 15

    The belief that you can put your trust in someone else’s opinion uncritically is naive, naked short selling or not.

    First of all, and I’m not trying to be pedantic here, but you’re not talking about naiveté. You’re talking about ignorance and sloth. There is a significant subset of the population out there who are too stupid and too lazy to figure much of this stuff out for themselves–something I thought I’d pointed out in my comment @ 4 above (What do wingnuts think they’re proving when they cite Fox News’ ratings–that Fox News is good or that Fox News’ viewers are idiots?)

    Second, the fact that a significant portion of the public is stupid and lazy implies that people who hold themselves out as experts take on a fiduciary duty with those viewers. Stewart’s point is that Cramer, and most of CNBC, failed to uphold this duty.

    The idea that this is merely a problem of people looking for experts where there are none is, itself, a rather naive assessment of the situation.

  21. 25

    Don Joe spews:

    @ 22

    I’ve struggled to find an appropriately sardonic reply, and find that I am unable to do so. My apologies, sir.

    So, I’ll simply leave you with a new sniglet: irodonicasm. Yeah. That’s the ticket.

  22. 26

    Mr. Cynical spews:

    Speaking of Snake Oil…how about the conduct of your gal Maxine Waters (DEMOCRAT & LUNATIC).
    This was reported today by FOX related to a NY Times Story:

    The newspapers reported that Waters, a member of the House Financial Services Committee, arranged a meeting in September between Treasury officials and the chief executive of OneUnited, one of the country’s largest black-owned banks, which requested $50 million in special bailout funds.

    Treasury officials told the newspapers that Waters didn’t tell them her husband, Sidney Williams, served on the bank’s board of directors and has owned at least $250,000 in stock in the institution.

    The bank, then considered to be in a precarious condition, received $12 million in December from the Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP), which was intended for healthy banks.

    Maxine sure has balls!
    And she tries to sidestep the specific allegation by ignoring it and stating she is for Minority Banks!
    What a LEFTIST PINHEADED KLOWN!
    I think Maxine has just swept up a Grandslam of the Rusty Pinhead and the Goat!

  23. 27

    ArtFart spews:

    15 Eh…what do you define as a “significant portion of the public”?

    I’d be careful about overly broad brush strokes here. As a whole, Americans are anything but lazy, notwithstanding the right’s attempts to claim that the only reason anyone’s poor is that they haven’t worked hard enough. And stupid? Nope–but it’s not reasonable to expect everyone to be an expert in everything.

    We do, however, have a remarkably short collective memory, and as individuals we’re all too easily motivated by fear into doing irrational things and trusting the wrong people.

  24. 28

    ByeByeGOP spews:

    Why would it surprise you that millions of Americans get their news from a fake news source? Right wingers have been watching Faux News Channel for years and that’s as fake as it gets!

  25. 29

    GBS spews:

    If you want to know how to invest in the stock markets, watch Cramer and then do the exact opposite of what he recommends.

    Disclaimer: *Actually, do your own homework and learn how the stock market works, the different investing strategies that are available, their pros and cons, and which investment vehicles are suited to your risk tolerance. Then, listen to Cramer and disregard what he says.

  26. 31

    GBS spews:

    Speaking of the stock markets; is the Dow up 4 days in a row???

    Are the banks actually turning porfits again?

    Did GM pass on their need for another $2 billion dollar loan this month?

    Uh-oh for Reagan Republicans, there’s a new sherrif in town and he’s got game. To use Michael Steele speak. Bling-bling, Drill Baby Drill.

    What a debacle for the Republicans; if they keep Steele, he’ll lead them down the path of disaster blazed by George W. Bush. If they run him out on a rail, they’ll be seen as sticking it to the first minority ever to lead the RNC.

    There’s nothing more funnier than watching the Reagan Republicans put one foot on top of the other then PULL the trigger.

    Ahhhhhhhh, man the implosion is a grand as I thought it would be but twice as funny as i had hoped.

    Thanks you morons. It wasn’t worth the bullshit, but funnier than Hell none the less.

    Have a great weekend. It’s going to be a great day in America because Democrats are in charge!!

  27. 32

    Mr. Comical spews:

    re 25: Not to worry. I stole that comic idea from a Monk episode. Not even Trudy would have been up to the task.

  28. 33

    Mr. Comical spews:

    re 26: Is that the same as Cheney awarding no-bid contracts to his cronies in the Iraq war? When did congress declare war on Iraq? For what reason?

    How did Maxine Waters personally profit from this — or is helping the black community her reward? Are banks with no Maxine Waters’ relatives more deserving?

  29. 34

    Mr. Comical spews:

    The stock market gained 200 points yesterday, so Obama must have done a good job.

  30. 35

    Mr. Comical spews:

    re 30: Where’s the photo of your gigantic noggin’? It’s not that your shoulders are too small, it’s that your head is too big.

  31. 36

    ArtFart spews:

    31 Steele’s leading???? Looks more like he’s trotting around behind Flush Noballs, following so closely his nose is where the sun don’t shine.

  32. 37

    lol spews:

    The press release thing is for real. One time we sent out a press release about public power but misspelled it as “pubic power”… and sure enough, it ended up in a local paper, typo in the headline and all.

  33. 38

    proud leftist spews:

    Yes, indeed, the hour has arrived—it is time to announce the winner of the second HA Troll of the Week Award (aka the Golden Goat). Once again, we had stirring, spirited, spitfire competition. The vigor with which our trolls went head to head to grab for the Goat was truly inspiring. Most impressively, they kept at it until the very end, reminding me of two old heavyweights slogging it out in the late rounds, their legs ready to give out, their eyes swelling shut, the weight of their gloves almost too much to lift, but their will to win, dammit, undiminished. Yes, trolls, you’ve got gumption, and all of us thank you for providing us an opportunity to observe and enjoy your efforts.

    Now, given that we’ve only done this once before, it might be helpful to again set out the criteria which a number of HAers offered last week as instructive to picking a winner. Examples of such criteria include: illogic; failure to think beyond the simplistic (classic troll examples: the stock market is down, so Obama is bad; or, it is cold, so global warming is a hoax); racism; failure to understand criticism or recognize either humor or sarcasm; obliviousness to how stupid one appears; failure to even examine one’s own sources and misinterpretation of such sources; blind partisanship; the inability to lace two sentences together and treating rules of grammar and punctuation like hostile forces; incoherence; refusal to condemn anyone on the same side no matter how ridiculous or offensive the position; failure to recognize that the GOP got its ass kicked in November; volume of nonsense spewed; and, simply, never adding anything of value to the discourse. Again, however, remember that while such criteria are helpful and lend some objectivity to the selection process, ultimately the determining factor is more intuitive—to paraphrase Justice Potter Stewart’s definition of pornography, we know true trollness when we see it.

    So, how do we whittle down such strong performances this week to come up with just one fellow who gets to climb atop the medal stand? A number of you offered your selections and I could disagree with none of them. We have so many deserving trolls, and the thought of hurting any of their feelings is abhorrent. They all deserve our love and care. Still, this is a contest, and unlike in kindergarten, we can’t give each troll a medal. We have to pick a winner.

    Before announcing the victor, I must give special mention to a few of our contestants who clawed and clamored for the Goat like frat boys fighting for the last beer at a party. How can we not acknowledge The Truth’s sterling efforts this week? And, manoftruth’s last minute Hail Mary to try to retain his title? And, of course, Puddy—always there, always ready to back up his argument with an unsupportive link. Guys, I’m sorry, but it just wasn’t quite your week.

    Enough, I suppose, by way of build-up. It is my great privilege to announce the winner of this week’s Troll of the Week Award . . . And, the Goat goes to—

  34. 39

    proud leftist spews:

    Mr. Cynical. Yeah, you did it, man. Stand up and take a bow. Now, I’m sure some of you might contend that this week’s effort wasn’t Cynical’s best, that he could have ramped it up a bit. There is plenty to say for that contention. Still, there is also something to say for longevity. Cynical has been with us a long time, persistently and consistently filling threads with his own special blend of smugness and smarm. We simply have to admire and honor him for his steadfast adherence to his beliefs no matter how forcefully reality might be slapping his ass and for his unmitigated arrogance despite standing naked and limpdicked in front of the facts. He tenderly clings to his ideological nonsense like a fat man cuddles a frosted doughnut. Plus, how can we not thank him for his endless proselytizing? I could go on and on (I mean, hey dude, what’s with living in Montana and posting endlessly here?), but I think I’ll just end this by extending a simple congratulations. Cynical, you did it.

  35. 41

    ByeByeGOP spews:

    I wonder why Oreos like Puffybutt are so full of self-loathing? I also wonder if his “pastor” monitors his comments here at HA – you know the ones Puffybutt makes “IN THE NAME OF CHRIST! As I’ve said. If cowards, traitors and punks like Puffbutt make up the people in Heaven send me to Hell.

  36. 42

    Puddybud, Hey it's the new year... spews:

    Oh look another opportunity for the rujax, NutRight, proud loony, amazed, monomaniacal ones to condemn useless biomass@41. Lets see if the walking biohazard rujax won’t reject stillbentover because his butt feels so good to rujax.

    Any takers?

    stillbentover, rujax, NutRight, proud loony, amazed, monomaniacal; six peas in a pod. One strongly loved (stillbentover) by lefties, all rejected by conservatives.

    Six “golden goat” awarded this week to the leftist loony ladder landers. clueless village idiot has to move over as he now has 5 “brothers-in-arms”.

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

    Don’t ask Puddy about MOT again until you look in the mirror at your own lunacy and publicly reject stillbentover.

    SMACK down.

  37. 43

    Puddybud, Hey it's the new year... spews:

    proud loony wrote:

    Puddy—always there, always ready to back up his argument with an unsupportive link.

    Proof fool!

    You wrote Obama enjoying his highest approval ratings> Puddy proved you wrong.

    SMACK down.

  38. 44

    Puddybud, Hey it's the new year... spews:

    Hey Cynical you really got them going. Congrats. CynicalFacts blew them apart. They were flummoxed so badly they couldn’t deal with the truth!

  39. 46

    Rujax! spews:

    damn…the puddybiotch is PISSED!!!!

    I look for a protean effort from my man, the KING of Irrelevance (wonder if he wears a black hat with a BIGGG silver thingie like Richard Petty???)!!!!

    Go puddybiotch, GO!!!

  40. 47

    Steve spews:

    “Cynical,
    Actually you can make a fair bit of money by doing exactly the opposite of what Cramer says to do.”

    Actually, you can do even better if you do the opposite of Mr. Clynical. Every stock the dumb fuck ever mentioned has subsequently tanked.

  41. 48

    GBS spews:

    PL @ 38/39:

    BRAVO! Well done. I laughed my ass off!!

    You obviously understand the nuance of what makes humor funny; the truth.

  42. 51

    GBS spews:

    Puddy;

    Are you and BBGOP really still going at it like 7th graders??

    C’mon, man, you two either need to settle this like men or move on.

  43. 52

    Real American spews:

    Mr. Klynikal has the reverse Midas touch that every republican has.

    They can come upon a pile of gold and turn it into a pile of horseshit merely by their presence.

  44. 53

    Puddybud, Hey it's the new year... spews:

    GBS, I tried to settle it with stillbentover remember? Tuesday at lunch and then that evening at DL.

    He ran like a skeeeeeeeeeeeered leetle bitch rujax is!

  45. 54

    GBS spews:

    @ 52:

    Gotta agree with you.

    All I know for sure is that 8 years ago this country had a federal surplus of $300 billion, we were paying down the national debt at $500 billion a year and were on pace to erase the $4 Trillion dollar debt by now, and we just had the greatest expanse of wealth in human history.

    Compare and contrast and I’d say that Democrats have the Midas Touch while Reagan Republicans have the Roto-Rooter touch.

  46. 55

    Puddybud, Hey it's the new year... spews:

    GBS,

    Cynical wants to meet you for lunch in May along with me and I’ll see if PacMan is interested. Email me at the standard email location for more details.

  47. 56

    GBS spews:

    Puddy,

    Yeah I remember, it’s just, sheees man, can’t you just ignore him?

    Any who, how’s your beautiful wife who’s married to one of the ugliest Mo’Fo’s I know? :)

  48. 58

    The Truth spews:

    I watched Cramer once and said what an liberal idiot with all the yelling could have been a HA team member.
    For the white house to still be playing off this is childish and shows they don’t worry about us.. We have 2 wars and stinking economy that only obama loves. world threats and yet they have time for this. Guess they did go to OZ .

    Obama spokesman `enjoyed’ lashing of CNBC host

    http://www.breitbart.com/artic....._article=1

  49. 60

    YLB spews:

    42-45 Awwwwwwwww.. Stupes didn’t get the Goat this week. I feel so bad for the chump..

    NOT!! LOL!

    Congrats to Cynical… If any one troll is the inspiration for the Goat, it is Mr. Cynical.

  50. 61

    The Truth spews:

    @54
    You forgot one thing for fairytale story.
    The Democrats took control of OVERSIGHT and CONGRESS in 2007 and blew money like no tomorrow.

    When the crooks started to gain more pocket money they took more risk. Frank and Dood and the rest of thieves knew they would get away with the ripoff of the American people. Sure enough they did.

  51. 63

    Puddybud, Hey it's the new year... spews:

    Just in case you read this GBS, the wife is good. Remember she didn’t marry me for my looks. Think south of the border!

    How is your almost dentist son?

  52. 66

    Puddybud, Hey it's the new year... spews:

    Fascism has really begun. http://www.politico.com/news/s.....19846.html

    Let’s see if HAs clueless monomaniacal village idiot can spin this.

    “The vast new left-wing conspiracy sets its tone every morning at 8:45 a.m., when officials from more than 20 labor, environmental and other Democratic-leaning groups dial into a private conference call hosted by two left-leaning Washington organizations.”

    Hey John Podesta, you forgot what your good friend Hillary Clinton said about disagreeing with any administration?

  53. 67

    The Truth spews:

    If everything is so rosy in obama’s village why would they need to do this? Cause obama and team have shown how incapable they are in leading America. Far cry from community organizer to running a country as he now knows.

    The bet, game 1: obama has a breakdown and is found on the oval office floor in a fetal position.

    Game 2: obama has a breakdown and is found on the oval office floor in a fetal position.

  54. 68

    YLB spews:

    66 – Grover Norquist was doing that for years. And he wasn’t the only one. Viguerie came way before him.

    That’s democracy in action fool! Finally the progressives are getting their act togther to pass what? Health care? An even playing field for labor to organize? Action on climate change? Oh I’m so scared!

    You’re spending a lot of time shivering in fear under the bed these days Stupes. Turn up the Limbaugh and hope it all goes away.

    Fascism? What a chump you are! Fascism in this country is the military-industrial-neocon-religious right complex.

  55. 70

    Puddybud, Hey it's the new year... spews:

    Ummmm no clueless idiot@68. No calls with White House peeps. No Sunday morning calls with chief of staff to ABC and CNN

    Good try.

  56. 71

    Mr. Cynical spews:

    Proud Leftist–
    I accept your award…and will proudly wear it like the Badge of Honor it represents to all Right-thinking people.

    However, you really need to consider one of your own flock…the ignorant ByeByeGOP, the 1st LEFTIST Banned fronm HorsesAss.org.

    See if anyone can beat this racist garbage:
    41. ByeByeGOP spews:

    I wonder why Oreos like Puffybutt are so full of self-loathing? I also wonder if his “pastor” monitors his comments here at HA – you know the ones Puffybutt makes “IN THE NAME OF CHRIST! As I’ve said. If cowards, traitors and punks like Puffbutt make up the people in Heaven send me to Hell.

    I’m sure he is well in the lead for this next week…unless of course you are as big a racist as ByeByeGoober, Headlice and other LEFTIST KLOWNS??
    My guess PL?? Your silence about all the racist garbage spewed by the LEFTIST KLOWNS…speaks volumes.

  57. 72

    YLB spews:

    No calls with White House peeps.

    I doubt that big time but I know for a fact there’s plenty of visits from Senators and Congressmen with mighty strong ties to the Chimp White House.

    Now what does your side do?

    Bringin’ the Ayers:

    http://www.politico.com/news/s.....19950.html

    It’s 2009 not 1969! What bunch of maroons! You deserve to lose!

  58. 73

    Puddybud, Hey it's the new year... spews:

    Truth, tell the clueless village idiot you don’t take orders from knuckle dragging monomaniacal clueless village idiots.

    See what you spawned knuckle dragging monomaniacal clueless village idiot? You gave us on the right a new mantra.

  59. 74

    Puddybud, Hey it's the new year... spews:

    proud loony and stillbentover cojoined bros at the head.

    Or… is it the ASS?

  60. 75

    Puddybud, Hey it's the new year... spews:

    sure knuckle dragging monomaniacal clueless village idiot excuses:

    “The call has proved particularly effective at coordinating attacks on critics, said Jacki Schechner, the national communications director for Health Care for America Now, a labor-backed alliance of groups that support Democratic efforts to expand health care.”

    ““There’s a coordination in terms of exposing the people who are trying to come out against reform —they’ve all got backgrounds and histories and pasts, and it’s not taking long to unearth that and to unleash that, because we’re all working together,” Schechner said.”

    Sounds just like Hillary and her FBI files. Podesta and crew learned in 1993 well.

  61. 76

    Mr. Cynical spews:

    Hey Kountry Klubber steve–
    No one here reeks of hypocrisy like you.
    Have another Martini at the Kountry Klub steverino!
    Steve wails about children starving and evil rich people while paying Kountry Klub dues!!
    What a loser steve.
    Then he claims he was born “a poor white child”.
    Does that justify paying Kountry Klub dues rather than giving that money to the needy Kountry Klub steve??
    No it doesn’t.

    Steve loves to fantasize that others are doing bad and how government is our friend….while drinking martini’s after a round of golf at the Kountry Klub.

    Steve..you have already won the RUSTY PINHEAD Lifetime Achievement Award for 3 months steady droning about Goat Fornication. And with every post since, you’ve proved you were worthy of that award.

    Steverino…King KLOWN!

  62. 77

    YLB spews:

    The call has proved particularly effective at coordinating attacks on critics

    Damn straight! Critics? Right wing shitheads and corporate hacks protecting the shitty status quo.

    Finally we may see some progress!

    FBI files? LMAO!!! It’s the public record of the last 16 years including the shit they pulled on Clinton. The progressives know who these chumps are and THEY ARE GOING DOWN!

    I love it!

  63. 80

    The Truth spews:

    Obama,s promise on transparency will take a year to implement. yeah the great one on computers and internet needs a year. This is a crook in low motion to hide his tracks.
    In one month obama can spend a lot of money just think he has a year to waste even more.

    Stimulus overseer: Waste ‘inevitable’

    http://www.washingtontimes.com.....nevitable/

  64. 81

    The Truth spews:

    “Mr. Obama also ruled out suggestions from some Democrats in Congress that the Bush tax cuts on high-income taxpayers be repealed early, saying “nobody” will see a tax increase until the end of 2010.”

    Yeah even the poor liberal on food stamps will pay their share of higher taxes. As 2 % of the rich will not have enough money to bail obama out. The 250,000 will not either so who’s left the lefties!!!!

    Okay dipsticks come on tell us you will be tax free from increases and new taxes.

  65. 82

    The Truth spews:

    @79

    No democrats no Republicans

    “the speaker gained most of her ground among undecideds”

    People that don’t vote!!!
    LMAO Lard head

  66. 85

    YLB spews:

    tell us you will be tax free from increases and new taxes.

    We’re getting a small tax break in April. It will help us make ends meet a bit until we find something better.

    Seems like a campaign promise kept to me.

    Frosty.

  67. 86

    Real American spews:

    Boy, Frosty is obviously pissed that he didn’t win the weekly Golden Goat award. He must think he is actually going to be able to take the goat behind the barn and fuck it like he does with all the farm animals.

    He is outdoing Pubbydub in the stoopid and delirious department.

  68. 87

    proud leftist spews:

    86
    There is bitterness to go around among our trolls who have yet to grab the Goat. What they need to understand is we are now approaching March Madness, the best of all competitions. They need to focus on the future, and not on the nearest barnyard animal’s orifice. We’ll see who can focus on the task.

  69. 88

    Puddybud, Hey it's the new year... spews:

    surreal amerikkkan I’m mean leadless douchy sock puppet #25,

    Your racist commentary of September 2005 and incessant ranting on Al Gore was ripped in Florida in 2005, 2006, 2007, and 2008 will go down in blog annals as some of the most idiotic and moronic rants of all time. So naturally you want to deflect the blog inspection police from your sorry ASS. So how is sock puppet #4 Amazed working out for you fool?

    Another SMACK down, again

  70. 89

    Puddybud, Hey it's the new year... spews:

    proud loony, be proud you are one of the lower rungs of the Loony Leftist Ladder Landers.
    It means people realize you are one of the lower leftist life forms of Goldy’s NorthWest Division of Lunatic Moonbat!s.

    Speaking of March Madness; Cynical, Mark, Mark1, Jane, cjs, Mel, The truth, Puddy and others will create the bracket of 64 leftist loonies. The PuddyProblem is there are soooooo many deserving loonies on HA we may have to expand the field or give some byes.

    Right now Puddy sees the four #1 & #2 positions as:

    Staying home in the West Regional#1 – HAs knuckle dragger clueless village monomaniacal idiot. No need to send this fool out to pollute other regions.

    In the West Regional#2 – HAs stillbentover and his special brand of racism. Keeping it home too.

    In the MidWest Regional#1 – HAs walking biohazard rujax. Puddy had to give him a number 1. He comes to the gunfight unarmed as usual with nothing ever to say.

    In the MidWest Regional#2 – proud loony – lately he’s been proudly plowing a new trail of stupidity which elevated him over Jennie Tlaz and her lunatic love of DeVore’s blogging.

    In the East regional#1 – HAs NutRight, cuz his commentary is so far east and left of stupid. Should easily make it to the Elite Eight with his multiple repeated everyday mantras.

    In the East regional#2 – HAs Ekim “the dark goat”… oops… Puddy meant the dark HorsesASS, cuz Pelletizer will need a goat butt buddy to compete against in the final four. Definitely a lock for the Sweeeeeeeeeeeet 16 unless he goes dark. Jon DeVore was #2 with his Allen Stanford until Ekim’s latest goat rant propelled him skyward. Steve was there for a while but dropped down with his apology.

    In the South Regional#1 – HAs Pelletizer, cuz the king of thread highjacking places the most southbound large pellet commentary out of the end of a north bound HorsesASS.

    In the South Regional#2 – leadless douchy and his 27 sockpuppets. Being from Arizona Puddy had to keep ‘him’ in his zona.

    There you have the top tier of the brackets. Puddy will commiserate with the other people whom think right and we’ll populate the rest of the brackets over the next few dayz.

    Stay tuned for more bracketology loony leftist pinheads.

  71. 91

    YLB spews:

    To my those whom

    STINK RIGHT!!!

    Stupes you did not get the Goat this week. You are a bitter and angry man.

    And a pitiful sore loser! As your new bud Frosty would say:

    hahaha

  72. 92

    The Truth spews:

    @85

    “We’re getting a small tax break in April. It will help us make ends meet a bit until we find something better.”

    Yes, small, buy a 6 pack. Next year he wants the money back LOL!

    You forgot to address the other taxes he plans to hit you with.

    Oh, your out of work too bad. Tip of the day for you find a poor man ask him for a job.

    “Seems like a campaign promise kept to me.”

    Now that’s funny pea brain.
    How can you say campaign promised kept when you have not see shit? Your easy to fool no wonder you voted for obama.

  73. 95

    The Truth spews:

    @85

    Sorry for calling you “Pea Brain” this is reserved for notright hard to keep track on which one of you is dumber than the rest.

    YLB is No brain!

  74. 96

    The Truth spews:

    And what will chump say? Welcome to America.

    Notice Cuba after the lefties lifted sanctions this is what we get. When you have a fool as a leader the world leaders pickup on that quickly.

    Russia weighs Cuba, Venezuela bases: report
    http://www.breitbart.com

    /article.php?id=CNG.9776268a25e75ad5b44b4d87e8a32a02.4a1&show_article=1

  75. 97

    YLB spews:

    Yes, small, buy a 6 pack.

    Nope, about what 65 bucks a month per individual?

    Joe Sixpack can buy quite a few six packs with that. I don’t drink that much so I’ll be more than happy with filling up the gas tank with that money and putting a couple of chickens in the pot.

    Next year he wants the money back LOL!

    You losers are so resentful of Clinton raising taxes on the rich.

    That’s what the rates go back to. You’re not rich. Relax fool..

    Times were great during Clinton. And good times are coming back. Maybe this time all Americans will be able to get health insurance and won’t be wiped out when they get sick.

    Like Stupes, you’re such a sad bitter angry little man.

    Frosty.

  76. 98

    YLB spews:

    when you have not see shit?

    April is two weeks away poor fool.

    The stimulus packages was 42 percent tax cuts. That’s a fact you pathetic right wingers refuse to face.

  77. 99

    ArtFart spews:

    96. Ah…so the War On Terr’r kinda fizzled out, and now you folks are trying to recreate the Great Red Menace.

  78. 100

    steve spews:

    @89 I’m certain Mr. Clynical will want to argue for a higher seeding for me in the East Regionals. I’d put a little money on myself if I end up seeded low as I’m quite capable of taking it to another level come tourney time. And I’ve been saving some shit for Cynical – just rope-a-doping the sorry fuck of late. That said, smart money will be on the Rabbit, of course.

  79. 101

    correctnotright spews:

    @95: The “false” woman
    I want to thank the fool above, with the third grade education, for insulting me – I take it as a compliment. The fact that an ignoramus like you is offended by someone who can think, can use the English language and uses “big” words tells me I am writing the correct things.

    You loved and defended the worst President in history who started this bad economy LAST December and created the largest budget deficit in history (all at the same time).

    Yeah, the foolish President who blew our foreign policy in Iraq, Iran and North Korea. The idiot who lost more allies after 9/11 than ever before and has ruined the reputation of the US.

    Yup – that is the guy you liked. Now we have a President who, in less than two months, has done more than the idiot Bush did while on vacation for most of the last 8 years.

    Why should we listen to republicans? They have been wrong on almost everything. All of 2008 Bush and the idiot republicans (like McCain) insisted that the economy was “sound” – but we were already in a recession from December of 2007.

    They insisted that Sadaam was a threat – a lie. They insisted he has a nuclear program and was developing nuclear weapons – a lie. They insisted he had WMDs and the inpectors could not do their job – a lie. They insisted that tax cuts to the rich would spur the economy – a lie, the cuts failed to do squat. they said they were against earmarks – but the republicans set a record for earmarks their first year in charge of the House. They said they were against corruption – but the Abramoff scandal showed that corruption is what runs the republican party.

    When you are wrong so often, you lose credibility. Republicans have no credibility.

  80. 102

    Mr. Cynical spews:

    Puddy–
    The Final 4 of these LEFTIST PINHEADED KLOWNS will not require referees in pinstriped shirts..it will require guys in little white jackets!

  81. 103

    Puddybud, Hey it's the new year... spews:

    How correct you are Cynical.

    Maybe we should only fill out the top brackets. We all know who the real leftist morons are.

  82. 104

    Puddybud, Hey it's the new year... spews:

    clueless village idiot barfed:

    Stupes you did not get the Goat this week. You are a bitter and angry man.

    Wrong moronic testicle. I like Cynical will accept my goat proudly!

  83. 105

    Real American spews:

    @ 88 Pubbydyb drooled

    Surreal amerikkkan I’m mean leadless douchy sock puppet #25,

    Your racist commentary of September 2005 and incessant ranting on Al Gore was ripped in Florida in 2005, 2006, 2007, and 2008 will go down in blog annals as some of the most idiotic and moronic rants of all time. So naturally you want to deflect the blog inspection police from your sorry ASS. So how is sock puppet #4 Amazed working out for you fool?

    Another SMACK down, again

    Sorry Pubbydub, but I made no such comment in any year, or in any forum. So, again, you are lying. That, if I remember correctly, is a sin. But then, you lie all the time, and sin even more often.

    But perhaps you would like to prove your accusation and provide evidence that I ever made the statements you attribute to me.

    But you can’t. Why, because you just made it up! Like you do in every one of your posts.

    SINNER!!!

    HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
    HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
    HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
    HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

    SMACK DOWN!

    Pubbydub falls down to the canvas… wetting himself.

  84. 106

    Real American spews:

    As pubbydub knows, I invite any HA moderator to announce publically that I am Pubbydub’s boogieman “leadless douchy”. You not only have my permission, but, if it is not too much trouble, please announce that I am NOT “leadless douchy”.

    There, Pubbydub, you can keep on claiming I am someone who I am not, and thereby making an even bigger ass of yourself, or you can deal with reality.

    I am not betting on you dealing with reality. You have never shown any affinity for reality.

    *Pubbydub silently poops himself*

  85. 107

    Puddybud, Hey it's the new year... spews:

    surreal amerikkkan, send an email to Goldy asking him to create a thread saying you are not headless lucy. Puddy calls you leadless douchy. In fact ask Goldy to announce all of headless lucy’s sock puppets. At that time Puddy’ll recant. Until then,

    Puddy NOT CONVINCED!

    Wow you can’t think of anything original like the clueless thread marauder.

    SMACKED BACK

  86. 109

    Puddybud, Hey it's the new year... spews:

    surreal amerikkkan, send an email to Goldy asking him to create a thread saying “headless lucy is not real american” (surreal amerikkkan). Puddy calls you leadless douchy. Also ask Goldy to identify all of headless lucy’s sock puppets. At that time I’ll recant. Until then,

    I’M NOT CONVINCED!

    SMACK DOWN was introduced by Puddy.

  87. 110

    Real American spews:

    Pubbydub drooled

    send an email to Goldy asking him to create a thread saying this. At that time I’ll recant. Until then

    … you’ll keep making an ass of yourself?

    Pubbydub, why in the world would Goldy create a thread just to depose you of your delusions?

    The world does not revolve around mouth breathing delusional wingnuts like you!

    And you do not order Goldy or anyone else around.

    I have stated plainly, unequivocally and over and over again that any moderator has my permission to expose me as your personal boogieman “leadless douchy”.

    Nothing of the sort has happened, and if you want to keep making a paranoid ass of yourself everyday, that is fine by me. But everytime you make false claims (i.e. “lies”) I will expose you as the liar you are.

    Enjoy the exposure, Liar!

  88. 112

    The Truth spews:

    @98 YLB

    Fact is actually having it in your wallet to spend. A fairytale is when obama speaks.

  89. 114

    The Truth spews:

    @101,
    very hard for me to insult you as your doing a great job of it your self Pea Brain.

    Hindsight is splendid tool for politics.

    For bush and his 8years let’s forget and I’ll forget the democrats controlled congress Nov.2007 to present and our rescission started in 2007.

    The new world ordered of Change and hope started Jan. 2009.

    “Now we have a President who, in less than two months, has done more than the idiot Bush did while on vacation for most of the last 8 years.”

    What has he done in two months that has helped your neighbor,relative or your family.
    I’ll make it easy for you keep them a 3 and no more.

  90. 115

    The Truth spews:

    @97
    Pea Brain,

    “Nope, about what 65 bucks a month per individual?”

    You lie Pea Brain, poor people on fixed income get the obama kick in the ass.

    Illegal Mexicans get a kiss and $65.00 amonth