When a poll came out earlier this month showing Democrat Larry Grant leading Republican Bill Sali in Idaho’s 1st Congressional District of all places, a lot of people were stunned, if not downright dubious. The Sali campaign immediately issued a press release attacking the poll, and claiming it was totally out of whack with its own internal polling… a poll they refused to release.
But if the GOP is not concerned about Sali’s chances in this predominantly Republican district, they’ve got a funny way of showing it. First the NRCC starts running attack ads against Grant. Then they spend over $16,000 to conduct a new poll in ID-01. (Guess that internal poll wasn’t so comforting afterall.) And now they’re sending RNC Chair Ken Melhman to Idaho to rally the troops.
Subject: **MEDIA ADVISORY** Republican National Committee Chairman Ken Mehlman Visits Idaho
Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2006 12:14:28 -0400
From: “RNCommunications”WHAT: Rally for Bill Sali for Congress Campaign
WHO: Chairman Ken Mehlman, Gov. Bill Risch, Rep. Butch Otter & Republican-candidate Bill Sali
WHERE: Idaho Republican Party Headquarters
912 West Jefferson Street
Boise, IdahoWHEN: Thursday, October 5, 2006 at 3:30 p.m. MDT
Wow. That’s some “rally.” Gee, I wonder how many people they can fit in there?
Yup, nothing screams grassroots enthusiasm like holding a rally in an office cubicle.
The next stop on Mehlman’s whirlwind “District’s We’re Gonna Lose” National Tour? WA-08. (5PM, Bellevue Community Center… just in case you want to help out.)
GBS spews:
I’ll pass.
I really don’t want to be around people who support and protect pedophiles.
Roger Rabbit spews:
… or sponsor torture and murder of innocents.
Roger Rabbit spews:
… not to mention fiscal irresponsibility, managerial incompetence, and corruption.
Roger Rabbit spews:
So are the local GOPers gonna rent the movie “Office Space” for the rally? They’ll all clap and applaud the scene where the building burns down. Republicans like to destroy things.
Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:
With mandatory voter ID, the Dems lose 20% of their inner city black vote. Dems: voter fraud
ArtFart spews:
If they manage to round up all the pederasts, JCH may not have anyone to vote for…not to mention to tuck him in at night.
proud leftist spews:
If northern Idaho is in play, Election Day could be a remarkably enjoyable experience. Just getting the RNC to devote some resources to that race is a triumph. Lord, I’ll bet the Republicans are making a dent in the nation’s Depends supply with all the good news they’ve been getting.
headless lucy spews:
Ya know! I’m beginning to think that the neo-cons never took into account that the people voting for them were not sophisticated political cynics who read Leo Strauss on their lunch breaks just to be as ideologically “fine tuned” as, say, Richard Pearlman.
They failed to take into account(Who could’ve predicted?)that even conservative Americans don’t like crooks, halfwits, incompetents, and pedophiles — not to mention Senator “tube clog” Stevens Alzheimer’s problem— running the country.
Who to blame? Blame who you will wingnuts, but your spinning, it seems, has come full circle and clocked you a good one!
headless lucy spews:
If this administration declared “martial law”, I don’t think they have the competence to make it stick — not when those you are trying to stifle have no respect for you.
You can’t just shoot a few college students in Ohio this time around and expect to get away with it.
headless lucy spews:
I wonder how many of our tax dollars the Rethugs are spending against us? Some of those “lost” Billions in Iraq may end up being spent against us.
GBS spews:
Hey Cut-n-run Puddle Pirate at 5:
Shut the fuck up.
You nimrod.
GBS spews:
Pedophiles protecting pedophiles.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15147265/
Now Mark “I fuck little boys” Foley said he won’t name the priest who molested him as a young boy. That means he is knowingly leaving a sexual predator of children on the loose, or, or, Foley is a fucking liar like all conservatives.
Especially the puddle pirate who doesn’t know a God Damned thing about basic seamanship. Other than the semen goes in his mouth!
Boooo-yahhhhhh.
Mark1 spews:
@1:
Typical whiney liberal “Painting all” with the same brush mentality. How totally arrogant and naive as usual. So one guy gets caught up in a scandal certainly doesn’t make the entire party that way.
@3:
Rodent: Well said, but that is the very description of a liberal Democrat. I do hope you had a good relaxing vacation away from your regular everyday life that is pretty much a vacation in itself; you know, not working, collecting gov’t cheese and welfare, being overly obsessed with a website, sitting behind the computer all day in your bathrobe, wanting everything but not paying for it, etc….
treasonous pickle spews:
JCH at 5. Dem voter fruad? You gotta be kidding (again).
The republicans are the ones committing all the election crimes. Just look at Ohio in ’04 (read RFK jr’s article). The corrupt republicans prevented minorities (who, by the way, have the Constitutional right to vote—you do support the Constitution, don’t you?) from voting.
And how can any decent human being support the Republicans anyway? Vote Republican–promote a pederast!!
Mike Webb SUCKS spews:
While you donk swim in the mess, you miss the real news:
“The age of sexual consent varies from state to state. While the age of consent in Florida and Washington, D.C., is 16, it is 18 in California.
And teenagers have to be at least 16 to serve in the Congressional Page Program.”
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics.....038;page=3
Hey gay actions on underage men are bad no matter what political stripe they are from. But who’d a thunk Foley was a Dem in Repub clothing? Did Mark talk to NAMBLA?
This is getting really interesting.
GBS spews:
@ 13
Fuck you, cock!
It isn’t about one person. No one person defines a political party — good or bad.
But your party’s fucking problem is that there are many Republican leaders attached to this crime who knew what the fuck was going on.
So, the broad paint brush applies and it is one fucking ugly paint job at that.
You dick.
treasonous pickle spews:
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One guy caught up in a scandal? what about all the fucking liars who tried to cover it up. That’s the scandal you dope.
treasonous pickle spews:
so what about the age of consent?? Sexual harrassment is still sexual harrassment. It’s illegal no matter what
GBS spews:
@ 15:
Nope. You own this butt-fucking ugly pig mother fucker. By no means is he a Democrat.
He’s clearly a Republican in Republican clothes, an ultra-conservative Republican who tows the party line on every vote.
Even when he was voting to send American citzens to war in Iraq, that mother fucker was emailing nasty emails to underage boys.
PS crossing fedral lines means 18, ohhhhh shit more Republicans going to JAIL.
What’s the tally this year for Republicans going to jail, copping guilty pleas or under indictment?
LauraBushKilledAGuy spews:
I wonder how the investigation into JustCan’tHelpsuckingDick’s fake military credentials is going? How much time should JCH have to serve for pretending to be a veteran? Maybe he and Foley can share a cell?
proud leftist spews:
MWS
You, like your president, have an amazing capacity for denial. Go ahead and believe that somehow the Democrats get tarnished in this Foley matter. The Republicans are eating their own in this little dust-up, and all Democrats have to do is sit back and enjoy. The age of the pages is irrelevant. The congressional leadership had an obligation to protect young people entrusted to its care. Hastert appears to have breached that obligation for partisan purposes. We see in his actions everything that is wrong with the current Republican leadership–all that counts is maintaining power.
Mike Webb SUCKS spews:
PS crossing fedral lines means 18, ohhhhh shit more Republicans going to JAIL. What’s the tally this year for Republicans going to jail, copping guilty pleas or under indictment? Commentby GBS— 10/5/06@ 5:00 pm
Federal law has to prove he intended to have sex GBS. Even ABC hasn’t proved that. Did you really read the link?
GBS spews:
@ 20:
To tell you the truth, if I could care less about JCH, I would!
He’s a pathetic little retarded conservative who wishes he earned himself a DD-214, but alas, he was too much of a pussy to hack it.
sillyguy spews:
Roger
Your new family will soon be here to comfort you!
‘Scientists to create ‘frankenbunny’ in big research leap’
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/.....article.do
You will finally have a true family!! :-)
GBS spews:
MWS
First off, DUMB ASS, ABC cannot prove anythig. Only a court of law can do that. That’s the problems with you ass holes who claim to live by the Rule of Law, it’s just you have no idea what the fuck you’re talking about.
Have you seen the full transcripts of the FBI’s investigation yet?
No, so shut the fuck up. They’re not done yet. I’ll put my money on Foley doing time. One thing I learned living in Nevada for 8 years, never bet against the trend.
Answer my question about the number of Republicans doing time, copping pleas or under indictment and you’ll realize the trend is heavily going toward the Guardians Of Pedophiles.
LauraBushKilledAGuy spews:
Three more former congressional pages have come forward to reveal what they call “sexual approaches” over the Internet from former Congressman Mark Foley.
The pages served in the classes of 1998, 2000 and 2002….
“I was seventeen years old and just returned to [my home state] when Foley began to e-mail me, asking if I had ever seen my page roommates naked and how big their penises were,” said the page in the 2002 class.
The former page also said Foley told him that if he happened to be in Washington, D.C., he could stay at Foley’s home if he “would engage in oral sex” with Foley….
The second page who talked with ABC News, a graduate of the 2000 page class, says Foley actually visited the old page dorm and offered rides to events in his BMW.
“His e-mails developed into sexually explicit conversations, and he asked me for photographs of my erect penis,” the former page said….
All three pages described similar instant message and e-mail patterns, with remarkably similar escalations of provocative questions.
“He didn’t want to talk about politics,” the page said. “He wanted to talk about sex or my penis,” the page said.
The three new verbal accounts are in addition to two sets of sexually explicit instant messages provided to ABC News by former pages.
jsa on commercial drive spews:
The age of sexual consent varies from state to state. While the age of consent in Florida and Washington, D.C., is 16, it is 18 in California.
I’m not going to look up DC law, but Washington (another AOC@16 state) actually has a 4-year sliding scale to determine if it’s statutory or not. At 18 you are legal to sleep with you you please regardless of their age.
i.e. 16 year-olds with 20 year-olds is OK. 16 year-olds with 21 year-olds is statutory rape.
This is from a youth rights book I read 22 years ago, and I have no reason to believe the law has changed since then. Do not take this as legal advice or personal blessing to bang the young ‘uns. I personally advise against it, since the poor dears tire out quickly at that age.
Mike Webb SUCKS spews:
So GBS since I have the voice of reason on this thread for waiting until the case goes to court, your side, our side, your sdie has been assigning guilt before the trial. All you have to do is look at the last three days threads. Everytime I say wait your donk moonbattic friends say why?
So you shut the fuck up, fuckwad, dick for beains. For a Seal I thought you’d have a brain. I see they beat it out of you at training. Did you stay underwater too long? Did you get concussed too often?
Mike Webb SUCKS spews:
should be: your side, your side, your side has been assigning guilt
Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:
GBS…………ER09 [Dmage Control]…BTW, I wrote CASREPs and SITREPs for 2 years as “OPS”….PMS, PQS, and E-3 and below evals. No, GBS, you are NOT recommended for advancement to E-4. You are the E-3 fraud. Now, brace up, dismissed, and report to your LPO. [And NO O-3 answers questions from an E-3. EVER!!!]
Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:
GBS was busted to E-3 at a Captain’s Mast. His LPO [leading petty officer], Chief, Division officer, Deptmant Head, and XO all turned their backs on GBS. WHAT THE FUCK DOES THAT TELL YOU!!!!!!!!!! Rarely does this happen in the NAVY unless the shitbird-in-question is a real loser. GBS, I would not be surprised if you also failed in civilian life.
Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:
To tell you the truth, if I could care less about JCH, I would!
Commentby GBS— [Right…………..Eight posts by GBS today on JCH. Looks to me like you are one sad mess.]
Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:
Hey Cut-n-run Puddle Pirate at 5:
Shut the fuck up.
You nimrod.
Commentby GBS […..Shitbird E-3 GBS, Maybe 3 days in the brig on bread and water might improve your attitude toward commissioned officers. With a couple of phone calls I bet the Shore Patrol will drag you from the bar to a cell in the brig within hours.]
Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:
Question: How can an E-3 shitbird loser like GBS make so much noise? Perhaps the chief can assign you a few more work details. How’s your PQS? Maybe you can catch up in the brig.]
Observer spews:
No patience moonbats. You are counting your chicken hawks a bit early, methinks.
proud leftist spews:
Hey, Observer,
Why don’t you share with us how proud you are of the House Republican leadership in dealing with this Foley matter? Hastert and Boehner, man, they’ve been real pros, haven’t they? Those are just the kind of fellows you’d follow into war, aren’t they? C’mon, bro, share your pride. This week has been one of the GOP’s finest hours, hasn’t it?
Mark The Redneck KENNEDY spews:
Mark Foley is a better man than Bill Clinton ever DREAMED of being.
1) Mark Foley resigned when confronted. Bill Clinton fought tooth and nail to hang on.
2) Bill Clinton actually fucked his victim. Foley did not.
3) GOP threw out Foley immediately. Dems protected Clinton and made excuses for the inexcusable.
4) Clinton dragged the country through a drawn out scandal. Foley got the fuck out.
5) Clinton lied to the American people and used the “delay, deny, denigrate” tactics to fight the unwinnable battle. Foley never lied. Foley never attacked his accusers.
Foley is a piece of shit. But he’s better piece of shit than the real piece of shit Clinton. You moonbats should be fucking ashamed of your double standards and hypocrisy.
Roger Rabbit spews:
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“If this administration declared ‘martial law’, I don’t think they have the competence to make it stick – not when those you are trying to stifle have no respect for you. You can’t just shoot a few college students in Ohio this time around and expect to get away with it.” Commentby headless lucy— 10/5/06@ 4:43 pm
Yes, it was a Republican wingnut governor and a Republican wingnut president who presided over the Ohio National Guard gunning down unarmed college students. No officer ordered them to fire; the guardsmen apparently took it upon themselves to use their weapons, yet not one of them was ever court martialed or held accountable.
I wouldn’t put it past the current Republican wingnuts to use lethal force against people who disagree with their policies. After all, these Nazis have no problem with bombing, torturing, or slaughtering innocent Iraqi civilians — or shooting Iraqi babies in the head. So why would anyone think they wouldn’t kill Americans, too?
Liberals must arm! I must leave it to each individual liberal to decide for himself when a government is no longer legitimate or constitutional, when our nation’s citizens have a moral right to use force in self-defense against their own government; but, in concept, I think such a thing is possible.
Roger Rabbit spews:
Now watch the troll bozos jump all over my ass: “The rabbit is advocating overthrow of the government! He’s a revolutionist!” they’ll cry.
I have news for them. Wingers hold the patent on the argument that citizens have the right to bear arms against government oppression. I’m doing nothing more than agreeing with them.
Roger Rabbit spews:
13
“@3: Rodent: Well said, but that is the very description of a liberal Democrat.” Commentby Mark1— 10/5/06@ 4:52 pm
Your saying the world is flat doesn’t make it flat. Dismissed. Next …
Roger Rabbit spews:
15
This is the wingnut spin? Foley is a closet Democrat? What’s next — Bush is a Martian?
Roger Rabbit spews:
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“What’s the tally this year for Republicans going to jail, copping guilty pleas or under indictment?” Commentby GBS— 10/5/06@ 5:00 pm
The prison bus makes daily stops at Capitol Hill. For photo of Republicans holding meeting in bus stop, click here:
http://tinyurl.com/s8mmf
Roger Rabbit spews:
13
“…not working, collecting gov’t cheese and welfare, being overly obsessed with a website, sitting behind the computer all day in your bathrobe, wanting everything but not paying for it, etc….”
Well said — the very description of a Republican trollfuck.
Roger Rabbit spews:
13
Now let me ask you this. What kind of fucking idiot thinks a rabbit wears a bathrobe? Rabbits come equipped with fur coats, so why the fuck does a rabbit need a bathrobe?
Sheesh.
Roger Rabbit spews:
13
Now let me ask you this. What kind of fucking idiot thinks a rabbit wears a bathrobe? Rabbits come equipped with fur coats, so why the fuck does a rabbit need a bathrobe?
Sheesh.
Roger Rabbit spews:
We are now treated to the spectacle of our nation’s Republican leaders covering up pedophile crimes.
Leftout(of their minds!) spews:
350,000 Ugandans were murdered in 1979 under Idi Amin……
while Jimmy Carter “negotiated”.
Millions of Somalians & Rwhandan’s were slaughtered while Bill Clinton turned his back.
Mike Webb SUCKS spews:
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/feda23.....e2340.html
Looks like more moonbat theory is out the window. The price of oil dropped too low and OPEC cuts production. Yes Goldman Sachs really at work here!
Roger Rabbit spews:
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What makes you think FRANKENRABBIT isn’t ALREADY HERE?!!
(pause)
HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR
Roger Rabbit spews:
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“… since I have the voice of reason on this thread …” Commentby Mike Webb SUCKS— 10/5/06@ 5:24 pm
This surely is the most utterly ridiculous assertion you’ve ever made on this board.
Roger Rabbit spews:
28
By the way, MikeSucksDickCheney, how long did you wait before rushing to judgment on Iraq’s WMDs? Did you make it through the first 30 seconds after Bush mouthed the words? I can hold my breath longer than that!
Roger Rabbit spews:
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“Mark Foley is a better man than Bill Clinton ever DREAMED of being.” Commentby Mark The Redneck KENNEDY— 10/5/06@ 6:45 pm
WOOO-HA-HA-HAR-WHOOP-HEE-HAW-HAR-DE-HAR-HA HA HA HA HA …
I’d like to see the GOP candidates run on THAT slogan! Let’s print up some bumper stickers! “Elect me — I’m not as sleazy as Clinton!”
P.S., pay your gambling debt, welsher!!!
Roger Rabbit spews:
47
“350,000 Ugandans were murdered in 1979 under Idi Amin……
while Jimmy Carter “negotiated”.
Millions of Somalians & Rwhandan’s were slaughtered while Bill Clinton turned his back.
Commentby Leftout(of their minds!)— 10/5/06@ 7:23 pm
And now hundreds of thousands of people in Darfur are being murdered while Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice, Hastert, and Frist look the other way.
Your point is … ? Do you have one?
Oh, and let’s not forget that wingnuts like you criticized Clinton for winning a war and stopping a genocide in Bosnia without a single American combat fatality.
Roger Rabbit spews:
48
No doubt Redneck can explain why oil prices are dropping, just as he demonstrated that revenues ALWAYS go up when taxes are cut, to wit:
2000 – $1,372,376,000,000 (baseline year)
2001 – $1,297,063,000,000
2002 – $1,152,413,000,000
2003 – $1,069,364,000,000
2004 – $1,146,664,000,000
2005 – $1,279,114,000,000 (estimate)
(from official data)
Ooops!!! Guess that explanation doesn’t work! His oil price theory probably sucks, too. But what can you expect from someone who
a) Got taken for FIVE HUNDRED BIG ONES by his crack whore wife’s divorce attorney,
b) Didn’t pay his child support,
c) Bet Goldy $100 that I-912 would pass by 15 points, and last but not least,
d) Welshed on paying (c), too.
LauraBushKilledAGuy spews:
Mark The Redneck condones homosexual acts between adults and minors. Tells you what the GOP is made of doesn’t it? Also tells you what Mark The Cowardly Redneck dreams of. Too bad it wasn’t your kid Foley was screwing in the ass MTR, of course that would have made a punk like you jealous wouldn’t it?
Roger Rabbit spews:
Anyone who thinks Mark Foley is a better man than Bill Clinton should be locked in a mental institution for public safety.
Daddy Love spews:
So let me see if i have this straight.
Here’s the state of Republican denial here:
1. Mark Foley probably isn’t going to jail.
2. Bill Clinton was worse.
Well, I’l telll you guys what. America in 2006 isn’t America in 1996, 96, 200, etc.
I hate to break it to you, but the Bill Clinton thing is old and tired. Everybody NOW knows they elected a lying moron to replace him. The country is going to shit, and all your “Bill Clinton did this” or “Bill Clinton did that” doesn’t move anyone a goddamn bit.
And Mark Foley? He’s slime, and we haven’t even begun to find out what he did. Never fucked anyone? Riiiight. Uh-huh.
But Foley doesn’t matter. We’ve got the Speaker of the god-damned House right in our sights, and he obliged us all by lying through his teeth about this as he protected a gay ass-chaser in the House. For one year? Three years? Probably three, or more, but that doesn’t matter. He’s a liar, and people know it. He doesn’t care about doing the people’s business or protecting their children,and everyone knows it. ALL THE HOUSE LEADERSHIP is corrupt and lying, and everyone knows it.
You guys are fucking sunk, and YOU know it. Have fun next month.
Daddy Love spews:
So let me see if i have this straight.
Here’s the state of Republican denial here:
1. Mark Foley probably isn’t going to jail.
2. Bill Clinton was worse.
Well, I’l telll you guys what. America in 2006 isn’t America in 1996, 96, 200, etc.
I hate to break it to you, but the Bill Clinton thing is old and tired. Everybody NOW knows they elected a lying moron to replace him. The country is going to shit, and all your “Bill Clinton did this” or “Bill Clinton did that” doesn’t move anyone a goddamn bit.
And Mark Foley? He’s slime, and we haven’t even begun to find out what he did. Never fucked anyone? Riiiight. Uh-huh.
But Foley doesn’t matter. We’ve got the Speaker of the god-damned House right in our sights, and he obliged us all by lying through his teeth about this as he protected a gay ass-chaser in the House. For one year? Three years? Probably three, or more, but that doesn’t matter. He’s a liar, and people know it. He doesn’t care about doing the people’s business or protecting their children,and everyone knows it. ALL THE HOUSE LEADERSHIP is corrupt and lying, and everyone knows it.
You guys are fucking sunk, and YOU know it. Have fun next month.
Roger Rabbit spews:
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Redneck can’t pay his $100 gambling debt to Goldy because his NAMBLA membership dues are past due.
Facts Support My Positions spews:
” 350,000 Ugandans were murdered in 1979 under Idi Amin……
while Jimmy Carter “negotiated”.
Millions of Somalians & Rwhandan’s were slaughtered while Bill Clinton turned his back.
Commentby Leftout(of their minds!)— 10/5/06@ 7:23 pm ”
Dahrfur? Congo? Iraq? Afghanistan?
Just ask who is making money on the carnage. The answers get real clear….
Roger Rabbit spews:
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I heard on Air America that Hastert knew about this in 1998. That’s EIGHT years ago, folks.
Mark The Redneck KENNEDY spews:
What act? Nasty IMs?
Is a nasty IM worse than cigars up a young girl’s pussy?
Is a nasty IM worse than sticking his dick down her throat?
Is an IM worse than cum stains on her clothes?
Mark The Redneck KENNEDY spews:
Both Clinton and Foley are shit. I think we agree on that. So we’re talking about degrees of shit. All I’m saying is that Clinton is more shit than Foley for the factual reasons listed above.
Mark The Redneck KENNEDY spews:
And besides… this was a personal thing with Foley. What effect did it have on his ability to do his job? I think you guys made this argument for Clinton. Are the rules different now? Do tell…
Mark The Redneck KENNEDY spews:
We’ve talked about this for a week now. Story’s over.
Time to “move on”.
Right?
Daddy Love spews:
8 MWS
You mean that “moonbat theory” from The Financial Times and the commodities analyst at Raymond james? Flaming lefties, all of them.
The theory was that Goldman Sachs moved the price of gas through their commodity index. Whether OPEC cuts production or not has nothing to do with the cause of the drop. Cutting production is the only lever they have.
But thanks for playing.
Daddy Love spews:
65 MTR
Nope. Not time to move on by a long shot. We learned that, you see. And your guys are goin’ down.
And it’s got little to do with Foley. It’s not the crime, it’s the coverup. WhAT they were covering up, well, it’s just fotunate that it’s a nice juicy sex scandal to keep the media interested.
Mike spews:
Feature article on David Goldstein: http://www.zwire.com/site/tab5.....#038;rfi=6
Observer spews:
Hey Moonbatdaddy-
Show me a cover up. Oh thats right, again, swamp gas….
headless lucy spews:
What would these Christianist clowns be saying if Mark Foley had been a public school teacher?
I don’t think it would be: “If he didn’t have sex with them it wasn’t illegal.”
The jig’s up hypocrites. Your only next possible move is a suitcase nuke in Wichita. Which I expect any day now.
skagit spews:
Is a nasty IM worse than cigars up a young girl’s pussy?
23 is a “young girl?”
You enjoyed typing this in, didn’t you, Mark? I’m getting to know you better . . .
headless lucy spews:
Everyone’s on to you worthless idiots now. And I mean, EVERYONE.
Will U.S soldiers comply if the chimp in chief declares martial law?
I doubt it.
That’s why that $9 billion was “lost” in Iraq. They’ve been building up a private army.
skagit spews:
And if it was no big deal, why did a Republican turn him in . . .
you guys are the suckers that visit the carny for a good time with the girls aren’t ya? Nobody decent will have you . . .
headless lucy spews:
But it won’t work.
RUFUS Fitzgerald Kennedy spews:
What would these Christianist clowns be saying if Mark Foley had been a public school teacher?
I don’t think it would be: “If he didn’t have sex with them it wasn’t illegal.”
The jig’s up hypocrites. Your only next possible move is a suitcase nuke in Wichita. Which I expect any day now.
Commentby headless lucy— 10/5/06@ 8:23 pm
If Mark Foley was a public school teacher the MSM wouldnt say a word. Of course the liberal teachers union would not let it get out and would probably transfer him to another school.
Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:
Murdered schoolboy Kriss Donald pleaded: ”I’m only 15. What did I do?” as he was beaten up and dragged into the back of a car by his abductors, a court heard yesterday. He was forced face down into the back of a silver Mercedes, threatened with a knife and told there was a gun in the car as he was driven off after being snatched from the street ”because he was white”. /break/ Imran Shahid, Mohammed Faisal Mushtaq, 27, and Zeeshan Shahid, 29, deny racially aggravated murder. [………………Minority Democrats at play. Question: Will Jesse Jacksoooooooooooon and Al “Tawana Brawley” Sharpton make sure these fine young Democrats vote Democrat in NOV?]
skagit spews:
ASS-doc: Are you thinking through your stethoscope again? You know, the rectal one?
What does this have to do with Sharpton, Jackson, Brawley or anything else intelligent?
For the Clueless spews:
64,65 Pay your fucking gambling debt to Goldy.
LauraBushKilledAGuy spews:
Isn’t it great that a morals scandal involving a gay man is bringing down the party that’s buttered its bread with anti-gay, self-righteous bullshit? I am laughing my ass off.
Roger Rabbit spews:
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Oh c’mon, a consenting 22-year-old? Not the same thing as soliciting 16-year-old boys. Pay your gambling debt, you fucking welsher.
headless lucy spews:
re 79: Same here. That same lack of ability to see nuances that these assholes have been exploiting in the electorate all these years has finally come ’round to bite them back.
Where’s the little wiseacre smirks now?
YUP! THERE’S NO WAY TO EXPLAIN PROTECTING A GAY PEDOPHILE IN YOUR MIDST, WINGNUTS!!!
Roger Rabbit spews:
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Glory be!!! Now Redneck (of “I-912 will win by 15 points” fame) is an apologist for pedophiles. Why am I not surprised. How come you haven’t paid your gambling debt to Goldy? Behind on your NAMBLA dues again?
Roger Rabbit spews:
I wonder if Redneck’s dead crack whore wife left him because she found out he likes little boys?
headless lucy spews:
Wingnuts!! You can spin them on and spin them off. But you can’t depend on them to hold. Just rattle them a little and they shake loose.
Roger Rabbit spews:
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“We’ve talked about this for a week now. Story’s over. Time to ‘move on’. Right?” Commentby Mark The Redneck KENNEDY— 10/5/06@ 7:55 pm
In your dreams. This is the last straw for many voters. The GOP is going DOWN and there’s nothing you wingnuts can do to save your sorry asses!!!
Kick the women and children out of the lifeboats!!! The cowardly wingnuts are fleeing their sinking Titanic!!!
headless lucy spews:
Let’s start a Hastert resignation pool. I’m in for $20 that he resigns next week.
How ’bout you MTR? Can we depend on you to pay up if you lose?
A concerned Democrat spews:
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These repubs are something else. Trying to equate consensual sex in the white to E-mails sent to a 16 year old. It is your intentions STUPID!!!! Not your actions.
headless lucy spews:
I’ll donate the money to Darcy Burner’s campaign if I lose.
americafirst spews:
What do Dems do to child-molesting Reps like Studds(D-Child Molester) who sodomize young boy pages? Dems reward them with Chairmanships:
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And the same can be asked of the Democratic Party. Who exactly buried these e-mails for a year and decided to drop them 34 days before congressional elections? And how did Democrats who served with a congressman named Gerry Studds now step forward and express shock over Mr. Foley‘s disgusting behavior? After all, their colleague, Chairman Studds, sodomized a 17-year-old boy in his Georgetown apartment, and then he took the congressional page to Portugal to carry on his illicit affair in Europe.
Should future Speaker Nancy Pelosi really be passing judgment on GOP leaders when her Democratic Party rewarded Congressman Studds with a congressional chairmanship years after he had sex with that young male page? I ask Ms. Pelosi because she was one of five Democrats who asked to sit on that committee under the guidance of Chairman Gerry Studds.
Source:http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15117630
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Democrats; the party of family values.
Roger Rabbit spews:
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“That’s why that $9 billion was ‘lost’ in Iraq. They’ve been building up a private army.” Commentby headless lucy— 10/5/06@ 8:28 pm
Exercising the right of lawful self-defense against soldiers of fortune — I like it!!! LIBERALS MUST ARM!!!
Roger Rabbit spews:
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“If Mark Foley was a public school teacher the MSM wouldnt say a word.” Commentby RUFUS Fitzgerald Kennedy— 10/5/06@ 8:30 pm
HEE HEE HAW HA HA — of all the absurd lies Dufus has spewed, this one’s a rib-cracker! The Seattle Times is spending tons of money on pricey lawyers to pry open school district records on teachers accused of sexual misconduct (the districts maintain that falsely accused teachers are entitled to privacy). And the TV news shows jump on EVERY story of a teacher caught messing with a student!!! Dufus must be living on one of Pluto’s moons.
Roger Rabbit spews:
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I’d make him put it in escrow.
Roger Rabbit spews:
Reddick is the kind of loud-mouthed blowhard who not only welshes on a political bet, but doesn’t support the troops! He hasn’t given a dime to http://www.operation-helmet.org/ !! Unpatriotic tightwad.
The rest of the world must be laughing at us. A movie star is raising contributions to buy battle equipment for American soldiers that their own government is too fucking cheap to provide to them!
I wonder if Rome ended the same way … but the good news is, thanks to the private donations of REAL patriots, Operation Helmet has already distributed over 26,000 helmet upgrade kits to soldiers and Marines in Iraq and Afghanistan.
For the Clueless spews:
It’s no use. They tried to blame it on Foley’s chief of staff. Tried to blame it on the Dems. Tried to blame it on Clinton.
They claim they can keep us safe and then they look the other way when one of their own preys on kids. What frauds they are.
The people aren’t buying it. This brings it all home. I hope people make the best call in November.
SeattleDan spews:
Doc, and MTR, seems the group rate on lobotomies is working out well for you guys.
Roger Rabbit spews:
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In typical lying wingnut fashion, FascistFuck asserts the Democrats rewarded Gerry Studds with a chairmanship for his affair with a 17-year-old page.
Let’s do a fact-check.
The House voted 420-3 to censure Studds; unless I’m mistaken, there were more than 3 Democrats in the House in 1983. “In addition to the censure, the Democratic leadership stripped Studds of his chairmanship of the House Merchant Marine subcommittee.” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerry_Studds
Yep, just as I figured — FascistFuck is a LIAR!!! Oh, one more thing — also censured at the same time for the same offense was REPUBLICAN Rep. Dan Crane. Any reason why you didn’t mention Crane too, FF? In addition to being a liar, you’re being selective in your partisan criticisms, it seems to me.
Roger Rabbit spews:
Kevin Carns, in his various personifications, is having a bad day in the HA comment threads!
Roger Rabbit spews:
I assume the spammers keep posting here because the stupid trolls send them money for baking soda pills.
Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:
Let’s start a Hastert resignation pool. I’m in for $20 that he resigns next week.
Commentby headless lucy […Covered, Union Hack Headless Lucy. 20 bucks. Goldy will hold funds after next week. JCH]
A concerned Democrat spews:
The House voted 420-3 to censure Studds; unless I’m mistaken, there were more than 3 Democrats in the House in 1983. “In addition to the censure, the Democratic leadership stripped Studds of his chairmanship of the House Merchant Marine subcommittee.” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerry_Studds
Commentby Roger Rabbit— 10/5/06@ 9:52 pm
Yeah, we censor our pedophiles. These repubs are so hypocritical.
For the Clueless spews:
Where’s the WMD?
What a fucking nut Hoekstra! Must be the only wingnut in Congress who buys the bullshit of a guy shilling his book on Faux Snooze Channel.
Mike Webb SUCKS spews:
Why is it when moonbats get the facts thrown at them they attack the children of their enemies
http://www.passionateamerica.com
Go view the moonbats in action For Thoroughly Clueless, Daddy Love, Furball, Goldie.
See why we hate you and your politics. Your politics is shut up your political enemies. See why when the light of day is shown on your kind why people will wake up when it’s displayed in public.
americafirst spews:
In typical lying wingnut fashion, FascistFuck asserts the Democrats rewarded Gerry Studds with a chairmanship for his affair with a 17-year-old page.
Let’s do a fact-check.
The House voted 420-3 to censure Studds; unless I’m mistaken, there were more than 3 Democrats in the House in 1983. “In addition to the censure, the Democratic leadership stripped Studds of his chairmanship of the House Merchant Marine subcommittee.” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerry_Studds
Yep, just as I figured – FascistFuck is a LIAR!!! Oh, one more thing – also censured at the same time for the same offense was REPUBLICAN Rep. Dan Crane. Any reason why you didn’t mention Crane too, FF? In addition to being a liar, you’re being selective in your partisan criticisms, it seems to me.
Commentby Roger Rabbit— 10/5/06@ 9:52 pm
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Rodent, Next time you do a “fact check” pull your head out of your ass first and check the record. Dems appointed Studds Chairman in 1993, after he screwed the page, and never “stripped him” of anything you dumbshit.
The record:
6/17/1993 5:36pm:
The Speaker designated the Honorable Gerry E. Studds to act as Chairman of the Committee.
Source:http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/.....02403:@@@X
headless lucy spews:
re 104: You’re a cold , bloodsucking zombie! You’ll be buried in potter’s field with 30 silver shekels strewn around your weed-infested grave.
I’ll be the first one to piss on your grave.
LauraBushKilledAGuy spews:
The righties are in real trouble. They’re trying to reach back 20 years to justify the fact that they enabled a right wing ped in order to protect their majority.
And to make it worse, they’re lying about what happened 20 years ago and they’re lying about what happened this time.
Hey by the way I hear that Foley will be holding a press conference where, in addition to the lame excuses he’s already given (he’s a gay man who drinks too much and who was chestered by a priest when he was a boy) well now he’s going to copy Brooke Shields and say he had post-partum depression – that’s what made him do it! LOL!
RightEqualsStupid spews:
A Vote for a rethug is a vote for a ped!
Mike Webb SUCKS spews:
I am a here and now guy. Post 104 post how the moonbats really are.
ameericafirst spews:
In typical lying wingnut fashion, FascistFuck asserts the Democrats rewarded Gerry Studds with a chairmanship for his affair with a 17-year-old page.
Let’s do a fact-check.
The House voted 420-3 to censure Studds; unless I’m mistaken, there were more than 3 Democrats in the House in 1983. “In addition to the censure, the Democratic leadership stripped Studds of his chairmanship of the House Merchant Marine subcommittee.” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerry_Studds
Yep, just as I figured – FascistFuck is a LIAR!!! Oh, one more thing – also censured at the same time for the same offense was REPUBLICAN Rep. Dan Crane. Any reason why you didn’t mention Crane too, FF? In addition to being a liar, you’re being selective in your partisan criticisms, it seems to me.
Commentby Roger Rabbit— 10/5/06@ 9:52 pm
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Rodent, Next time you do a “fact check” pull your head out of your ass first and check the record. Dems appointed Studds Chairman in 1993, after he screwed the page, and never “stripped him” of anything you dumbshit.
The record:
6/17/1993 5:36pm:
The Speaker designated the Honorable Gerry E. Studds to act as Chairman of the Committee.
Source:http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/.....02403:@@@X
Commentby americafirst— 10/5/06@ 10:19 pm
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Rodent “Fact Checker” Moonbat-
It took me only a few clicks to find yet another appointment by the Dems of Studds(D-Child Molester) as Chairman of a committee after he was censured for screwing the page. There are probably more:
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7/13/1990 10:55am:
Mr. Roybal moved to resolve into the Committee of the Whole House on the state of the Union.
7/13/1990 10:56am:
On motion to resolve into Committee of the Whole House on the state of the Union Agreed to by voice vote.
7/13/1990 10:56am:
The Speaker designated the Honorable Gerry E. Studds to act as Chairman of the Committee. Source:
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/.....05241:@@@X
thehim spews:
Well, Dennis Hastert was supposed to go but isn’t, so now they have room for 5 more people.
americafirst spews:
Rodent “Fact Checker” Moonbat-
Have a nice nap, and keep checking those facts.
My Left Foot spews:
Keith Olbermann went off again tonight. Here is the closing remark from his Special Comment:
Mr. President, these new lies go to the heart of what it is that you truly wish to preserve.
It is not our freedom, nor our country—your actions against the Constitution give irrefutable proof of that.
You want to preserve a political party’s power. And obviously you’ll sell this country out, to do it.
These are lies about the Democrats — piled atop lies about Iraq — which were piled atop lies about your preparations for al Qaida.
To you, perhaps, they feel like the weight of a million centuries — as crushing, as immovable.
They are not.
If you add more lies to them, you cannot free yourself, and us, from them.
But if you stop — if you stop fabricating quotes, and building straw-men, and inspiring those around you to do the same — you may yet liberate yourself and this nation.
Please, sir, do not throw this country’s principles away because your lies have made it such that you can no longer differentiate between the terrorists and the critics.
The entire comment, it is 11 minutes long can be found here.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15147009/
Please, take the time to read it. This man is becoming the voice of reason for liberals and Democrats everywhere.
Dan Rather-Whats the frequen spews:
Ah shit. This smells like the same crap I got into on See BS. If this get legs its doom for the dems. At least it will take away from the attention I received for being a lying POS liberal.
treasonous pickle spews:
dumb ass mtr at 37
Clinton didn’t have a “Victim”. He had a consenting adult.
Clinton didn’t drag the country through hell, you Repedophilicans did.
So Clinton got a blow job. I’m sure all the dead American service men and women and all the dead Iraqis are horrified by that.
Mike Webb SUCKS spews:
Even dumber add at 115, looks like ABC is admitting their lead story was 18. And if the consent age is 16 in WA DC looks like he was consenting.
Another moonbat argument bites the dust!
Mike Webb SUCKS spews:
Carl: Where is Keith Olbermann in the cable dog food chain?
DEAD LAST! Voice of reason my ASS. O’Reilly averages ~ 4X the viewership. Like Air America is the voice of reason
My my my, that splits my ribs with laughter!
Mike Webb SUCKS spews:
Furball GDP Growth
http://www.treas.gov/press/rel.....growth.jpg
Federal revenues – Ain’t those tax receipts?: http://www.treas.gov/press/rel.....growth.jpg
2000 – 2,020,000,000,000
2001 – 1,990,000,000,000
2002 – 1,850,000,000,000
2003 – 1,790,000,000,000 – Jobs Act
2004 – 1,875,000,000,000
2005 – 2,160,000,000,000 – Highest level ever.
Daddy Love spews:
MWS
OK, let’s ask the parens of the 16- and 17-year-olds whom a 52-year-old Member of Congress was contacting about their enis length how they feel about.
Then let’s ask how they feel about eh Republican leaders of Congress letting this guy go on sexually harassing their children for three or more years.
Daddy Love spews:
110 americafirst
Studds had sex with a page in 1973, an was almost unanimously censured in 1983. If he became Chariman in 1993, I think it wold reflect:
(a) that he had committed his transgresssion (20 years before) and been punished by his peers. That was all at least a decade before the appointment,
(b) a remnant of the seniority system that the Republican obligingly exploded after 194.
You can see how much better the Republican method of assigning leadership works. What a great crew we have in now!
darcys my gal spews:
@ 120
It took 10 years to censur the guy (1973-1983)?
Daddy Love spews:
69 Observer
“Show me a cover up. Oh thats right, again, swamp gas….”
Wow, you are slow on teh ol’ uptake. Umm, Speaker Haster, NRCC chair Tom Reynolds, House Page Board chair Shimkus, and Rep. Rodney Alexander hve sat on this and said nothing for anywhare from last fall by their own admission, to possibly 2003 according to Reynold’s head of staff Fordham, to possibly the late 1990s.
Really, you should make more of an effort to remember the facts.
Daddy Love spews:
Of course, we should keep in mind that the incompetence, deceit, and venal self-interest we are seeing from the Republican leadership absolutely permeates everything they do, from the disastrously ineffective and expensive Medicare prescription drug bill to Katrina to Iraq.
It’s not just that we can’t trust them to keep us safe, even though that is more glaringly obvious all the time. But we can’t trust them to do anything.
Daddy Love spews:
121 darcys my gal
I don’t know the details but I think it took that long to come out. The scandal broke in 1982.
LauraBushKilledAGuy spews:
You know Kieth is doing a good job when the inbred, lapel-pin patriots start attacking him.
Kieth’s ratings – UP 17.5 percent last quarter
Bill O Really’s ratings – DOWN 35 percent last quarter
Kieth’s ratings UP every quarter since Q3 – 05
Bill O Really’s ratings – DOWN every quarter since Q3 – 05
Faux News Channel’s ratings – DOWN 34.9 percent last quarter
Oh well, the right wing lie machine was bound to fail at some point.
headless lucy spews:
It’s the lying and the ten year cover up.
My Left Foot spews:
MWS.
You keep yammerin’. In November you can start crying.
For the Clueless spews:
See why we hate you
You sure said it there, WOS. Thanks for your honesty.
GBS spews:
MWS @ 28 wrote:
“For a Seal I thought you’d have a brain. I see they beat it out of you at training. Did you stay underwater too long? Did you get concussed too often?
Commentby Mike Webb SUCKS— 10/5/06@ 5:24 pm”
Besides having a brain, I have determination, courage and can distiguish between right and wrong.
However, for special people like you I can also conjure up a real mean streak as easily as turning on a light switch. I can also turn it off that quickly.
Now you may think I’m cocky, but I say it ain’t braggin’ mother fucker because I can back it up. Anytime – any place.
You and your ilk are the farthest thing from the voice of reason. You support a model of government, or at least the leaders of your political movement, that is fundamentally changing the fabric of our Constitution.
Either you are and idealouge who knows and supports what they are doing, or you are so ignorant to the facts that you don’t realize what is happening.
Men like me understand that the true enemy of freedom and liberty is in our midst and that enemy is conservatism.
Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:
GBS was busted to E-3 at a Captain’s Mast. His LPO [leading petty officer], Chief, Division officer, Department Head, and XO all turned their backs on GBS. WHAT THE FUCK DOES THAT TELL YOU!!!!!!!!!! Rarely does this happen in the NAVY unless the shitbird-in-question is a real loser. GBS, I would not be surprised if you also failed in civilian life.
“To tell you the truth, if I could care less about JCH, I would!”
Commentby GBS— [Right…………..Eight posts by GBS in the last 24 hours on JCH. Looks to me like you are one sad mess.]
Commentby Doctor JCH Kennedy— 10
GBS spews:
JCH:
Just because I care more about a dead rat covered in maggots dosen’t mean I won’t bash a lying scumbag like you at every opportunity.
Tell us again about who has the conn at GQ!!
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OK, there you civilian hack, shove off!
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