Sen. Prentice wants Seattle taxpayers to build an arena in Renton

Let me just say right off the bat that if the state legislature approves $300 million in sales tax on restaurants, hotels and car rentals in King County to pay for a new Sonics arena, it will be a slap in the face of Seattle voters.

Just this November Seattle voters overwhelmingly rejected public funding of a new arena, and now Sen. Margarita Prentice (D-Renton) wants to tax us anyway… to build a new arena in Renton or Bellevue? She wants Seattle voters — who represent the bulk of the county’s population and thus would pick up the bulk of the cost — to pay for a new arena outside the city limits? And after we expressly rejected public subsidies, she now wants to force us to finance an arena that would compete for events with city-owned Key Arena, thus costing us even more money?

This is like rubbing salt in a fresh wound.

Prentice said that when details of the plan come out, support will follow. Other lawmakers have “enjoyed letting me stick my neck out, which I have done from time to time, but there will be support for it,” she said.

Hmm. Perhaps. Fucking Seattle is always a popular position elsewhere in the state. But Seattle Democrats should be awfully wary about supporting Prentice’s bill — just because you’re in a safe Democratic district doesn’t mean your seat is safe.

Comments

  1. 2

    Average JOE spews:

    Deja Vu. I remember when the voters rejected the Seattle Mariners request for a new stadium. I personally voted for the stadium and was disappointed that the voters rejected it. Then the State legislature stepped in.

    Take a drive West on Royal Brougham and look off to the left. What is that large structure?

  2. 3

    SeattleMike spews:

    “Take a drive West on Royal Brougham and look off to the left. What is that large structure?”

    Are you referring to the “Seattle Taxpayer Field of Schemes”?

    (Hey, we’re paying more than Safeco…we should have the naming rights!)

  3. 4

    skagit spews:

    Who cares what we think . . . no reason to concern themselves with the lowly populace. Hmmm . . . anybody thinking about voting Green next time around? If everybody did, that would cure ‘em.

  4. 6

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Has anyone besides me wondered by a basketball arena costs HALF A FUCKING BILLION dollars? Cripes, you can almost fight a war with that! A small one, anyway.

    I’ll tell you why. Because Clay Bennett doesn’t want anyone in Washington to actually build an arena for him. He wants to move the teams to Oklahoma, which will make him a hometown hero! So he gold plated it to make sure the Seattle locals would tell him to go to Hell, which is the same thing as going to Oklahoma. But if we’re stupid enough to GIVE him $500 fucking million dollars, he’ll take it.

    Either way, this cagey southern train robber wins.

  5. 7

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    What we really need to do is lynch a half dozen or so sports team owners to keep the rest of them in line.* Not you Paul Allen! Not you!**

    * Just kidding! Ann Coulter humor, ya know?
    ** P.S., your company’s operating system sucks, Paul.

  6. 8

    Colonel Tucker "Biff" O'Hanrahanrahanrahan spews:

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    Nat Hentoff
    Have a Nice Flight
    Boeing helps CIA fly kidnapped suspects abroad for torture
    by Nat Hentoff
    February 4th, 2007 7:44 PM

    Unfriendly skies: the Boeing 737 Business Jet
    SSGT Ron Harrison
    See also:
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    Report from Seattle Weekly
    be social

    On the Boeing 737 Business Jet, Khaled el-Masri said, “all the people were in black clothes and black masks. They put earplugs in my ears and a sack over my head.” After putting chains on his legs, they led him onto the plane. “They threw me on the floor and injected me with something. I blacked out.”

    —From Ghost Plane: The True Story of the CIA Torture Program, Stephen Grey (St. Martin’s Press)

  7. 9

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Speaking of “Ann Coulter humor,” rightys defend the Far Right’s violent rhetoric as harmless fun. But it’s hard to see it that way with government-hating whackjobs like Steven Bixby running loose.

    The South Carolina highway department purchased a 20-foot wide strip of land in front of Bixby’s house for highway widening purposes from a previous owner decades ago. The fact he didn’t even own the disputed strip made no difference to Bixby. He was pissed anyway. So he killed two cops.

    This isn’t the first time police officers have been gunned down by anti-government nuts. Louisiana executed Lynda Block and George Sibley for killing a police officer who asked for Sibley driver’s license. Block and Sibley believed the state had no right to make them get driver’s licenses — and answered with bullets. During the 20 years or so Block sat on death row, she agitated against government authority from her cell.

    And who do you suppose the “property rights” crowd sympathizes with, the two cops Bixby murdered, or the murderer? You get one guess.

    “Murder trial may attract advocates of property rights

    “By MEG KINNARD
    “The Associated Press

    “ABBEVILLE, S.C. — Bullet holes still pepper a small house on the outskirts of town where two law officers died in a gunbattle over a patch of land the state wanted to take for a highway project.

    “Property-rights advocates will be watching closely today as jury selection begins in the murder trial of Steven Bixby, a 39-year-old … who officials say threatened violence against any officer who set foot on his land.

    “Some residents of this town of 6,000 near the Georgia line fear the trial will reopen wounds and paint the area as a bastion for anti-government activity. …

    “Prosecutors are seeking the death penalty against Bixby in the 2003 killings … Bixby’s father, Arthur, also is charged with murder but is to be tried separately.

    “Authorities say the Bixbys were angry over plans to widen a state highway that has since taken up some of the land in front of their home. State transportation officials say the strip of land was purchased from a previous owner decades earlier. …

    “Some of the property-rights advocates who have made Bixby’s case a minor cause célèbre, saying he had the right to defend the 20-foot parcel, were expected to attend the trial.

    “Civil-rights watchdogs say part of the case’s attraction for people who protest government control is Abbeville’s place in U.S. history. One of the first meetings on whether South Carolina should leave the Union took place in 1860 on what is now called ‘Secession Hill.’ Confederate President Jefferson Davis held his last Cabinet meeting at a mansion here in 1865 ….

    “… [Deputy] Wilson … had gone there to discuss the family’s anger over the road and was shot on the front porch …. [Deputy] Ouzts was sent to check on Wilson. He was shot as he stepped out of his patrol car …. ”

    Quoted under Fair Use; for complete story and/or copyright info see http://preview.tinyurl.com/25d4hv

    Roger Rabbit Commentary: Fucking militia nuts. Fucking militia nuts. Fucking militia nuts.

    And the Right goes around telling people they’re for “law and order”? Not when it applies to them.

  8. 10

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    The Fishwrapper’s story about Prentice’s bill says,

    “Kneeland said the team is not looking for a handout …”

    If a $300 million public subsidy isn’t a “handout” then what the fuck is it?

  9. 11

    spews:

    Let the players, and the owners pay for it if they want it so bad…. They sure have a butload more money than I do.

    By the way, any of you righties following the Libby trial?

    I could only guess the number of intelligence assets killed by our enemies when Cheney leaked her name to the press through his “team”.

    I heard Brewster Jennings was a B-I-G operation. What was it they were doing? Oh yeah, that’s right. They were looking for REAL wmd’s. Not the imaginary ones…..

  10. 12

    janet s spews:

    This epitomizes why Seattle is so disfunctional. You all vote these guys into office year after year. Dems have been in control for ever in the city, and most of the time in the state. Then, when they start to implement your progressive plan to tax everything and socialize the state, you all squawk. What in the heck did you think was going to happen?

    Maybe Time Eyman should start an initiative . . .

  11. 13

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    ASTRONAUT ARRESTED IN STALKING ATTACK

    A space shuttle astronaut is being held without bail on charges of attempting kidnapping, attempted vehicle burglary, battery, and destroying evidence after attacking another woman she believed was romatically involved with a space shuttle pilot she’s in love with. If convicted, she could face life in prison.

    http://preview.tinyurl.com/2utojw

  12. 14

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    ASTRONAUT ARRESTED IN STALKING ATTACK

    A space shuttle astronaut is being held without bail on charges of attempting kidnapping, attempted vehicle burglary, battery, and destroying evidence after attacking another woman she believed was romatically involved with a space shuttle pilot she’s in love with. If convicted, she could face life in prison.

    http://preview.tinyurl.com/2utojw

    Roger Rabbit Commentary: No man is worth it.

  13. 15

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Hey Goldy why do all my posts go into spam? Am I banned because you raised $3500? Just wondering.

  14. 16

    janet s spews:

    facts @10: She wasn’t covert. No one was ever charged with revealing an agent. No one. Get it? She drove every day from her house to CIA Headquarters. She invited her buddies to meet her for lunch there. Her husband put her real name in his biography, where it was found by reporters.

    Libby is charged with lying about telling the truth. Seems to me that should bug you more than the fairy tales you all want to believe about this whole fraud.

    Too bad you can’t follow the case more accurately.

  15. 17

    Commenter spews:

    At the risk of letting facts get in the way of a good story, the population of Seattle was 563,374 in the 2000 census and the population of King County was 1,737,034. That makes Seattle 32% of the county’s population — the “bulk” of that population in the same sense that Republicans are the bulk of the state legislature.

  16. 18

    Thomas Trainwinder spews:

    Threatening voter retaliation — good strategy. That’ll make the Senator rethink her position.

    Just like Safeco made voters retaliate.

    Hey, you’d rather have the Sonics leave than the public supporting their stadium. That’s reasonable position. Threatening loss of seat is unreasonable.

  17. 19

    Puddybud spews:

    Wow the Moonbat!s are in a tizzy when one of their own wants to raise taxes for their pet project and it ain’t popular with the libtards!

    Wait… this just in… Seattle’s mayor wants a tunnel… his pet project.

    Wait… this just in… neocons DID NOT vote this person in.

    Wait… this just in… Clueless says Voice of Chalk Scratching got the local win for more libtards guarding “The Money Store” in FUWA. Yeah, he won more tax increases for King County Moonbat!s. Isn’t it great when the money DOES NOT go to the standard libtard causes? We the neocons sit back and watch the bickering begin.

    Just think, Ron Max Tax Sims hasn’t uttered a public pronouncement over this proposed boondoggle!

    Question for Libtards like Ms. Carpetbaggit: Have you been to Safeco or Quest if you voted against it? If you stepped inside aren’t you being hypocritical?

  18. 21

    Puddybud spews:

    Furball: Do you like seeing yourself post or do you read other threads before posting? Richard Pope posted the astronaut story 3.5 hours before you did. I think it’s “post your Bullshittium Et Repetitium” disease.

  19. 22

    Puddybud spews:

    LostHisMindStillStupidAsLEftTurdball@20: How would I know KKK membership is up. How DO YOU know KKK membership is up? Did you help them on their latest membership drive? What bene did you receive for the higher totals? Did you use the public television phone tree system?

    My sister’s friend you mistakenly thought otherwise told me your dick was less than an inch in diameter and it barely got past her G-spot. No wonder you have sexual delusional fantasies!

  20. 23

    Barry spews:

    Seattle elites think they rule all they view from the Space needle. NOT.

    Watch as they get butt fucked once again — of course they are bent over a lot — the taxes are so horrid, 50 cents on 100.00 of food — oh god, save me from these whinning, self centered pseudo intellectuals.

    I like car racing, will go often, so will hundreds of thousand of other area adults….. I like basketball, will go often …. workers, voters, parents.

    Fuck the control freak, need no fun Puritan like idiots who can’t admit all the world is not cloned from their pointed heads.

    The current crop of stadia are paying for them selves nicely, bond ahead of schedule – millions of visitors, money flowing, jobs earning, happy spectators and eager tourists — $$$$$$$$$ flowing — shut up you ill informed robots.

  21. 24

    thor spews:

    Seattle voters do not represent the “bulk” of the county’s population – just a little over 1/3rd.

  22. 25

    kirk spews:

    Maybe it’s popular to bash Seattle folks because you think you’re the center of the universe? Maybe there’s folks who don’t live in Seattle who support the teams?

    The hotel, motel, rental car and restaurant tax is paid for by visitors to Seattle and/or folks who eat near the stadiums–seems like a fair tax to me.

    Out of all the things the government gives money to — like special tax breaks for builders, off-ramp to Microsoft Billionaire Gates, anything Warmongering Boeing wants — I’d rather they spent the money on a convention center/basketball arena.

  23. 26

    RightEqualsStupid spews:

    Puffybutt as I lay here, getting my dick sucked by your ugly wife, I can’t help but think the world would be a better place if you had the stones to go to Iraq and fight in that war you claim to support. But then again, as a republican, i.e., a coward and a traitor, you have no interest in actually fighting a war – your interest is in sending SOMEONE ELSE to do it. By the way, have you paid this year’s KKK dues yet?

  24. 27

    RightEqualsStupid spews:

    Today will be the start of some VERY bad news for the faaaaar right traitors.

    Remember how the Publicans are always crying about waste, fraud and abuse? Yet they have not held one single session to investigate all the waste, fraud and abuse in Iraq. Now, today, because we outright slaughtered the Publican party in Nov and have control, WE will hold an investigation into the waste, fraud and abuse in Iraq that the righties have been working hard to cover up. Looks like Uh-Oh time for the right!

  25. 28

    Libertarian spews:

    If a sports team in King County wants to have a new stadium, then the team should build it and pay for it. That’s what every other business does when they make capital investments, and major league sports is a business.

  26. 29

    spews:

    #16 Janet s, So I guess when Patrick Fitzgerald said she was covert, he was lying right? Have you been listening to Hannity again? You know, they guy that tells the mouth breathers that watch his show that they “did” find WMD’s in Iraq.

    So tell me Janet. How many people died when Novak outed her? Why did the CIA ask for a criminal investigation to find out who outed their undercover agent Valerie Plame? Why did the CIA tell the White House on 2 separate occasions not to reveal her identity (testimony in Libby trial), and tell Novak on 2 separate occasions not to print her name?

    You gotta stop listening to the liars, and corrobrators on the right, and get some facts….. Turn your radio to AM1090 and find out what is really going on in America, and not the fantasy version.

  27. 30

    janet s spews:

    Rights – your postings are great. Keep at it. Every time you post your ad hominem personal attacks, you just show visitors which arguments have credibility and which are just the workings of a little mind.

    BTW, the brave men and women who volunteer for the military are doing an honorable job in Iraq. Their mission is to protect the US from mad men who want to destroy western civilization. Those of us at home can best support them by working hard and keeping this country functional and free. And by not sniping at them in the press on a regular basis.

    Who invited Sean Penn to Seattle, anyway?

  28. 31

    kirk spews:

    Not true at all Libertarian…Boeing got lots of tax breaks when they tore down Longacres. Intel got a new city and highway access rammed through the Legislature…etc etc

    Don’t know why my other comment wasn’t shown, but the points are:

    Seattle voters shouldn’t have final say over a resource that people from all over the state enjoy. (the Storm/Sonics)

    The taxes on hotels/motels, rental cars and restaurants in the stadium areas aren’t primarly paid for by Seattle residents.

  29. 32

    drool spews:

    “Fucking Seattle is always a popular position elsewhere in the state.”

    After my having been fucked by the Seattle and other urban dwellers with the CAO, now Seattle knows what it feels like.

  30. 33

    janet s spews:

    Facts – who exactly is charged with revealing the identity of a covert agent? It is a federal crime to do so. Fitz has no indictments for this charge. Ever wonder why?

    Fitz can say anything he wants, doesn’t make it a legal action. So far he has hung himself pretty far out there making a lot of inflammatory statements that he never followed up with actual indictments.

    And you can bet that if anyone was killed because Valerie Plame was identified, the press would have been all over it. The only thing hurt by revealing her name was her career at the CIA. She has only her husband to blame for that one. She was an analyst who had an axe to grind with the new administration, and wanted to get a boondoggle assignment for her husband. He had a big mouth. Bad combination.

  31. 34

    spews:

    While we are on the subject of stadiums, look into how they funded the one in Arlington for the Rangers. Talk about a boondoggle. The money Bush’s buddies were supposed to pony up they raised by putting their own tax on tickets.

    Don’t mention the millions upon millions spent in Washington from visitors from Japan coming to watch baseball…..

    If they really need a new Sonics arena, the owners should pay the city back for all the improvements the did to Key Arena first….

  32. 35

    janet s spews:

    The Democratic National Committee opened their winter party with this:

    “In the name of God the most merciful, the most compassionate. We thank you, God, to bless us among your creations. We thank you, God, to make us as a great nation. We thank you God, to send us your messages through our father Abraham and Moses and Jesus and Mohammed. Through you, God, we unite. So guide us to the right path. The path of the people you bless, not the path of the people you doom. Help us, God, to liberate and fill this earth with justice and peace and love and equality. And help us to stop the war and violence, and oppression and occupation. Ameen.”

    First, it seems awfully religious. Second, which path is it exactly that God dooms? Jews and Christians? And who is that is oppressing and occupying? Americans? Israelis? Heaven knows that Saudi Arabia isn’t oppressing women or gays, or that Syria has no troops in Lebanon. So I’m sure the good Imam isn’t talking about these guys.

    Good thing we are all multicultural and open minded.

  33. 36

    Libertarian spews:

    Kirk @ 31,

    The fact that businesses got tax breaks and other bennies in the past doesn’t make it right to give another business a tax break or try to fund its capital facilities out of taxes.

    Businesses should act like businesses, and major league sports is a business.

  34. 37

    RightEqualsStupid spews:

    Janet S aka Pam Roach.

    1) You’re lying through your used up and stretched out cunt about Mrs. Plame. PROVE she wasn’t a covert agent. Every shred of CREDIBLE evidence (read that as stuff you DON’T hear on Fox Nothing Channel) shows that she was indeed a covert agent at one time and revealing that put her contacts and this country at risk. You’re a fucking coward and traitor if you try to argue anything else.

    2) The best way to support our troops is to take their place. So why don’t you send your family to do just that?

    3) Anyone has a right to decry the war, even actors. I don’t hear you bitching when Tom Selleck or some other right wing actor applauds Baby Bush.

    As usual, you’re a lying hypocrite and you’ve been outed as such for the 100,222th time.

    And yes, I will keep posting. I did a fair amount of that prior to the Nov election and look what happened. We kicked your inbred ass up and down the street you fucking asswipe cunt!

  35. 39

    Right Stuff spews:

    Another shining example of the government telling the electorate that it knows better….We poor silly constituents cannot be trusted to know what’s in our best interest. Or God forbid, how best to spend our own money..
    Thank goodness that eventhough there was a public mandate not to provide public funding…….The Govt is there to know better… whew…

  36. 40

    YOS LIB BRO spews:

    JANET: THE MORE YOUR SIDE LOSES THE MORE TIGHTLY YOU CLING TO RIGHT WING FANTASIES.

    ITS SO SAD.

    DUCK! CHENEY BETRAYED AN IMPORTANT COVERT ANTI-WMD PROGRAM. SCOOTER, HIS LAPDOG, RUNNING INTERFERENCE FOR HIS BOSS, LIED TO FITZ. WHEN SCOOTER LIED, AMERICA BECAME MORE VULNERABLE TO ITS ENEMIES. IT’S THAT SIMPLE.

    HOW IRONIC THAT YOU JANET S. SUPPORT PEOPLE WHO PUT AMERICA INTO MORE DANGER.

  37. 41

    Right Stuff spews:

    I’ve got an idea….Pay the athletes less. Gee.. Or like anyone else…how about an equity loan against the team..

    Or….ha I’ve got it. Since Safeco has new suites and great facilities and is not in use for most of the NBA season…Close the roof and let’s have outdoor basketball..
    woo-hoo! Don’t tell me the high price pansies would be too cold to play… poor millionaire game players…

    In all seriousness, I don’t believe the new ownership is interested in keeping THEIR investment in Seattle when they have a new facility and hungry fan base waiting back home..
    These are just the motions.

  38. 42

    janet s spews:

    Once again – no one was indicted for revealing the name of a covert agent. No one. Many reporters printed her name, CIA employees remember telling the information. Are there no indictments because the very first leaker can’t be found, or (more reasonably) she wasn’t covert?

    You can’t be charged with revealing an covert agent if that person isn’t a covert agent.

    Why is this so difficult for you all to understand?

  39. 43

    rhp6033 spews:

    Puddybud and other wingnuts like to argue that Democrats are for taxes and wasteful spending, therefore it must be hypocritical for us to object to either taxes or wastful spending.

    Once again, a failure in logic. Puddybud’s premise is flawed. Democrats are not for taxes and wasteful spending. Dmocrats are for careful investments which will pay off in the long term.

    In the case of the Viaduct tunnel, SOME Democrats think it is a valid investment in the long-term future, paying dividents in the quality of living or working or even visiting the downtown Seattle core, with economic benefits to follow (which are downright impossible to quantify with any precision worthy of the effort). Others don’t think its worth the cost, and prefer other alternatives (replacement Viaduct, street-level options, etc).

    Personally, I think it would be a good investment in the long term, and I favor the full-size tunnel, not the squashed version being touted to keep the governor and the legislature happy. And I don’t even live in Seattle, and I will receive little personal benefit. Why do I favor the tunnel? Because if you are going to build something which will last for the next fifty to a hundred years, you had better do it right. It will be a lot harder (and more expensive) to widen the tunnel fifty years from now than it would be to do it now. And even though I don’t live in Seattle, I would be willing to pay my fair share of taxes to contribute toward that goal.

    The Sonics are another matter altogether. Here a private team owner wants the state taxpayers to pay most of the costs, yet he gets most of the profit. It is corporate welfare at its worst. I think if we tell the new Sonics owner to go take a flying leap, it will go a long way towards protecting us from similar blackmail by other team owners in future years.

    But I do have to wonder at Goldy’s premise. How does an increased hotel and car rentals impact most Seattle residents? By definition, they would rarely rent a hotel room, or rent a car, in Seattle. The whole idea of such a tax is that it is a politically palatable tax because it doesn’t impact the people who vote for it – it impacts mostly the tourists, business visitors, and conventioneers who travel to our city, and have not direct vote. In other words, nobody in King County would pay the tax (okay, maybe rarely).

    An increased sales tax on restaurants is another matter, though – I doubt that part would pass the committee level.

    By the way, has anybody else noticed how full our hotels are these days? We are having trouble booking rooms for our business visiters in JANUARY and FEBRUARY! During the summer it is near impossible. So when we here estimates from the sports teams or NASCAR about how much extra money more fans will bring into the area, I have to ask: where are we going to put them?

  40. 44

    YOS LIB BRO spews:

    no one was indicted for revealing the name of a covert agent.

    ARE YOU A DESPERATE HOUSEWIFE JANET S? APPARENTLY YOU HAVE NO EXPERIENCE IN THE WORKING WORLD.

    FITZ HAS TO WORK WITHIN THE LAWS. THE IDENTITIES PROTECTION ACT WAS ORIGINALLY DESIGNED TO DETER AMERICAN JOURNALISTS FROM EXPOSING CIA OPERATIVES. YOU HAVE TO PROVE THAT THE JOURNALIST OR WHOEVER INTENDED TO BLOW THE AGENT’S COVER. THAT’S EASY TO DO WITH JOURNALISTS.

    AND THEN FITZ HAS TO PROVE HIS CASE. HE CAN’T DO MUCH IF THE “TEAM” IN THE WHITE HOUSE ARE ALL CRIMINALS AND IN THE “SAME TENT PISSING OUT”.

  41. 46

    Richard Pope spews:

    Sen. Margarita Prentice (D-Renton) was the lead sponsor in 1995 of the law to allow payday lending in Washington. She has been in the pockets of the payday lenders ever since, and is often driven around Olympia by employees of one of the payday lending firms.

    By the way, Seattle only has about 1/3 of King County’s population. Is 1/3 a “bulk”? It certainly isn’t a majority. It is not even a majority of the Democrat votes in King County — although perhaps a “bulk” of that category.

  42. 47

    RightEqualsStupid spews:

    There is a difference between finding facts that rise to the level of a charging statute and the commission of an act. Plame was indeed a covert agent. This is a certain fact. Your lies Janet S don’t trump fact.

    The law requires that the agent BE ACTIVE IN THE FIELD before the statute kicks in. That doesn’t mean that disclosing her covert status was the right thing to do. It just means it wasn’t necessarily illegal. What’s so hard for you to understand about that? Are you cum-drunk again?

  43. 48

    2nd Amendment Democrat spews:

    I am not privileged to have all of the facts but the argument about a certain individual’s covert status raises a question. How does anyone know if she was “ACTIVE IN THE FIELD”? “They” shouldn’t know if she was covert. Also if she was covert, it seems that she had a good cover — appearing to be the trophy wife of a political hack — a classical misdirection. On the other hand, maybe “Mr.” as an ambassador is the Covert agent and “she ” is his handler. I can see a movie developing from this event.

  44. 49

    Puddybud spews:

    Rhp6033: Dmocrats are for careful investments which will pay off in the long term.

    Sure they are.

    How about all those “careful” big city investments since the “New Deal”?

    Wow, my people would be living in great luxury, driving fancy cars, paid off nice fancy houses like the whitey in the burbs. Instead they drive fancy cars paid off in drug loot, living in tenements, with crack babies, mothers having children without fathers, mothers having children supported by WIC and welfare. Yep I just love those careful investments!

    Careful investments – like paying for donkoinfanticide. We already know how many dead babies are missing since 1973. I posted it here on ASSWipes – over 43 Million served so far.

    Careful investments – inner city education, now that’s a hoot. Schools falling apart. Voice of Chalk Scratching made a big stink to save his school ‘cuz his little goil was there. Where is he when they want to close down a inner city neighborhood school. Missing in action.

    Well nuff said for this comment.

    Keep up the good work rhp6033. Come on down to inner city Seattle. I’ll give you a tour you’ll never forget. Good day!

  45. 50

    Puddybud spews:

    46: Still Clueless even after marriage. Plagiarizer too.

    First name clueless if you want to address me.

    On ignore now!

  46. 51

    RightEqualsStupid spews:

    Puffybutt which name should we call you by? You have so many due to your multiple personality disorder – my favorite is DickSucking Inbred Punk!

  47. 52

    janet s spews:

    Geez, Rights, can you string together a thought without obscenities? If you actually had an argument that made sense, you wouldn’t need to hide behind the nonsense. Are you thinking that your absurd insults will make me cry or something?

    So, you are now admitting that there were no laws broken in revealing Plame’s identity. Guess that means you agree that she wasn’t covert.

  48. 53

    spews:

    David, I see this as a very complicated issue. Margarita wants the arena to be part of the efforts to renovate Renton. It probably would be in her district.
    I would have to see Sonics leave. Still didn’t an initiative to give the teachers pay raises get tabled a few years ago. This state goes back and forth from Billion dollar budget surpluses to Billion dollar deficits and we will have a deficit again.
    If we pass this arena initiative, it will give new life to Tim Eyman.