Romney Convention Speech Thread

7:30: I’m listening to it on NPR, but you can watch it here too.

7:36: He accepts the nomination for president. Phew.

7:37: If you say you’re humble, you aren’t.

7:38: First wrong thing: Janesville is not a small town. He’s making references to Ryan’s speech that I didn’t see. Whatever.

7:40: If you have to say you’re being positive, you’re probably not being positive.

7:41: He says nobody who came here doubted they would do better. Um, remember when your family fled the country because as you said “religious persecution“?

7:43: He’s listing all the problems after Obama got into office, not noting that the economy went to shit before Obama got there.

7:44: He says “I wish President Obama had succeeded” but maybe he should have urged his party to work with the president when they said defeating him was their top priority.

7:45: By the way, wasn’t Clint Eastwood awful? Was he drunk?

7:45: God Bless Neil Armstrong. I agree.

7:46: “When the world needs you to do really big stuff, you need an American.” Diplomacy will be fun under him.

7:48: Parents are more important than government. Um, sure, but we can have both.

7:50: Mitt Romney likes his parents. OK.

7:50: He thinks he made it on his own because he wasn’t in Michigan. Um, no.

7:52: Anne’s “job was a lot harder and more important than mine.” All right. Maybe make a little less money and spend more time having helped with her job.

7:52: God God God God Family Community God. God.

7:55: “Jobs to (Obama) are about government.” What?

7:58: He’s waxing poetic about commerce. Says we should encourage taking risks, but doesn’t say how maybe a safety net would get people more willing to take risks.

8:00: Romney says Obama can’t say you’re better off than when he took office. Um, the economy was in free fall when Obama took office. We are doing better. There’s still a long way to go, but yes, things are better.

8:01: “What America needs are jobs, lots of jobs.” Well, we need good jobs.

8:03: He says the military creates jobs. Those ARE GOVERNMENT JOBS.

8:06: “I have a plan to create 12 Million new jobs.”

- Drill the shit out of everything
- Education
- Make trade work. When nations cheat, there will be consequences. Yet, he doesn’t say how he’s going to do that.
- Cut the deficit. That isn’t a plan (also, it won’t work).
- Champion small businesses. Says he’ll repeal and replace Obama care, but doesn’t say with what.

8:07: We need a president who will respect women. Then by the time I finish typing that sentence, he attacks women’s ability to control their own bodies.

8:08: Now he’s making fun of the fact that Obama thinks global warming is a thing (will help turn back the rise of the oceans). I guess that whole global warming thing is no longer operative.

8:09: He’s lied about the apology tour, so naturally the crowd is chanting USA!

8:11: Now he says we need 23 Million more jobs. But he just said his plan is only half that.

8:12: Is he cribbing Obama’s 2004 convention speech? I mean I know there were a lot of cliches in that, but it really sounds like a poor man’s version of it.

8:13: We’re done.

Comments

  1. 1

    Michael spews:

    I’m on hopping on Skype with a couple of friends who live in the east coast. I’m not even going to bother watching the speech. I really don’t give a fuck what Romney says.

  2. 3

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Romney came damn close to saying, “God bless America, and no place else!” For a moment, I thought he was gonna do it.

  3. 4

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Mrs. Rabbit says I’m supposed to pass around the airline bags. You know, those little bags they put in the seat backs, in case of turbulence.

  4. 6

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Okay, so … it was a well written and movingly delivered speech. I admire craftsmanship, and so should you. Lots of inspiring and high-sounding words. Okay, now that we have that out of the way, let’s do a reality check.

    1. His party tortured people and lied about it.

    2. His party borrowed a trillion dollars from China to give tax cuts to millionaires who didn’t use the money to create jobs.

    3. His party has fought to pass restrictive voting laws all over the country whose purpose is to keep American citizens from voting in their own country.

    4. His party, despite having the world’s most powerful military at their disposal, got bogged down in two wars in little shithole countries that President Obama had to finish because they couldn’t.

    5. His party created the worst economic disaster since the 1930s.

    6. His party became known as the “Party of No” because it dedicated all of its energies and resources to ensuring that President Obama would fail instead of helping America to succeed.

    7. His party divided and polarized the nation with bigotry and hatred.

    Of course a politician accepting a presidential nomination has to speak nobly and call upon our best instincts. But the Republican Party’s actions speak louder than Romney’s high-flying words; and it is actions, not words, that matter.

  5. 7

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @5 Clint is always entertaining in his inimitable way and once again did not disappoint.

  6. 8

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    7:55: “Jobs to (Obama) are about government.” What?

    What’s wrong with government jobs? Is there something wrong with working for the government in jobs that help our citizens live better lives? Are you a bad person because you teach in a public school, or drive a snowplow in Snoqualmie Pass for WSDOT, or work as a county health inspector?

  7. 9

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    A Republican is someone who thinks a $40,000-a-year teacher is greedy because she wants health and pension benefits, and thinks asking a hedge fund manager who makes $1 billion a year to pay the same tax rate as his janitor or secretary is “punishing success.”

  8. 11

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    8:06: “I have a plan to create 12 Million new jobs.”

    The economy is already averaging 150,000 – 160,000 new jobs a month. That’s 8 million. So what he’s really saying is he’ll create an additional 1 million jobs per year. It takes 1.9 million just to keep up with population growth.

  9. 13

    Empty Suit Obama spews:

    Congrats!! You just witnessed the next president of the United States of America tonight, kiddies. It’s high time the adults step in and clean up this clowns considerable mess over the last nearly 4 years.

    That said, I now return you back to the regular HA retarded masses programming where they will pontificate on the reasons the American people will send the Chi-town assclown packing in November.

    hint: It’s the economy, Asshole!!

    Good night, and God bless…

  10. 14

    Puddybud spews:

    The economy is already averaging 150,000 – 160,000 new jobs a month.

    151,000. Another 374,000 new unemployment claims this week. 363,440 average unemployment claims so far in 2012. BLS!

  11. 15

    Puddybud spews:

    Romney knows when Obummercare gets repealed employers will start hiring again hence his 250,000 jobs a month goal is in reach!

  12. 16

    Deathfrogg spews:

    @ 13

    And of course, when he’s solidly trouced 2-1 in the electoral college, you’ll be the first guy to bomb a school bus fulla little kids in protest right?

    This is the guy that after serving half of his first term as Governor, had a less than 20% approval rating in his own fucking State. By the time he left the office, his approval rating was under 10%.
    Everybody hated the guy. He’s an utter imbecile, and a total crooked scumbag.

  13. 17

    Politically Incorrect spews:

    “What’s wrong with government jobs?”

    The problem is that money has to be taxed away from the private sector or borrowed from strangers to fund those government jobs. We’re up to nearly $16 trillion in debt and growing that debt every day.

    What is better than government jobs is private sector jobs where the taxpayer isn’t on the hook for payroll and benefits for those jobs.

    One thing I don’t think Tea Party and Republicans don’t understand is that the military is the biggest target for cuts in spending. We could do a lot for the deficit and the debt by reducing the size and scope of the military. Withdrawing from the Middle East is an obvious place to start. Romney actually wants to increase spending on military. Stossel’s show tore him apart on that one on the Fox Business Channel. We need a smaller military whose primary role is protecting the USA and not trying to be the world’s policeman.

  14. 18

    Puddybud spews:

    And of course, when he’s solidly trouced 2-1 in the electoral college, you’ll be the first guy to bomb a school bus fulla little kids in protest right?

    When you hang with OWS morons you project their scumbag acts. And Fraggy is definitely an OWS scumbag!

    This is the guy that after serving half of his first term as Governor, had a less than 20% approval rating in his own fucking State. By the time he left the office, his approval rating was under 10%.

    Got Proof? of course not… Even WikiPedia shows you are lying…

    Romney had approval ratings around 50 percent for most of his term, but they began to decline towards the end of his term. One of the possible explanations for this is Romney’s out-of-state travel as he began to focus on moving on to national politics, and his making jokes at the expense of the state during appearances in early Republican primary states.

    More leftist OWS horse manure from Fraggy! Still stupid, loud and proud!

  15. 20

    Puddybud spews:

    “Of course we know Biden is the intellect of the Democratic party.” – Clint Eastwood

    Clint tells the truth! Robio and Romney kept it up!

  16. 22

    Puddybud spews:

    Did OWS Fraggy get his horse manure from Daily Kooks? No they are truthful for once.

    Did OWS Fraggy get his horse manure from The Puke Morons? No they are truthful for once.

    So where did OWS Fraggy get his lies from?

  17. 23

    Puddybud spews:

    Actually I don’t think I’ll bother watching the Dems either..

    Wow, the HA ASShat ylbuttspigot not gonna watch his ASShats? Well Puddy guesses he’ll be skumming the left wrong web sites next week!

  18. 25

    Liberal Scientist is a a dirty fucking hippie, and THE SPAWN OF SATAN (according to resident Bibul-thumper puddles) spews:

    Okay, so … it was a well written and movingly delivered speech. I admire craftsmanship, and so should you.

    I very much admire craftsmanship, and thought this was lousy.

    The part about his parents was good, but soon after her listed every woman he ever worked with – clumsy and transparent, he allows women in his presence. Disjointed, and I find the delivery wooden – he’s fake.

    And then all the tinhorn aggression – again, transparent, petty, thin.

    Alex Castelanos – Republican hatchet-man – said, “Good enough.” Weak tea.

  19. 26

    Liberal Scientist is a a dirty fucking hippie, and THE SPAWN OF SATAN (according to resident Bibul-thumper puddles) spews:

    Christ Spudds. You’ve really gone off the deep end.

    Long, LONG time ago.

  20. 28

    Richard Pope spews:

    Puddybud @ 18

    Froggy is dead wrong on Romney’s approval rating. Although Romney was down to 34% approval as of November 2006 — which was incidentally very similar to the 35.33% that his Lieutenant Governor Kerry Healey got in that month’s election to succeed him.

    For better or worse, Romney could not have gotten re-elected in 2006 — which isn’t so bad in a heavily Democratic state. Incidentally, Massachusetts had elected Republican governors for four straight elections from 1990 to 2002. Republicans lost the race in 2010 by only 48%-44%, compared with 55%-35% in 2006 after four years of Romney and Healey.

    Romney actually gave a decent speech, which could boost him above Obama in the polls for a while (given dead heat polling for the vote, in spite of Obama outpolling Romney better than 2-to-1 in personal likeability.

  21. 29

    ArtFart spews:

    @17 Ah, but….the military budget not only directly employs people, but funnels giant wads of cash to private companies most of whom would have no other reason to exist without it.

  22. 32

    MikeBoyScout spews:

    Deep Thought:

    Was it Obama’s ability to become invisible that allowed him to do what Bush couldn’t; find and kill bin Laden?

  23. 34

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @14 If your assertion is the U.S. economy is losing more jobs than it’s gaining, that’s a lie. The 150,000 – 160,000 figure is net job growth.

  24. 35

    Liberal Scientist is a a dirty fucking hippie, and THE SPAWN OF SATAN (according to resident Bibul-thumper puddles) spews:

    @33
    Never lets facts get in the way of a good sound bite – Republican mantra.

  25. 36

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @25 “I very much admire craftsmanship, and thought this was lousy.”

    CNBC anchor Larry Kudlow thinks it was lousy, too.

    “Did Mitt Romney make the economic sale …? Did he convince people … living at the margin or unemployed and discouraged that he has the answers to the economy? … I don’t think so. … It concerns me that in the economic zone, he didn’t make the sale to the independents …. I didn’t hear anything new. I didn’t hear anything specific …. I think he needs to be more specific. It’s not about big business, it’s really about small business. … I wish he had more contrast with President Obama.”

    http://www.cnbc.com/id/48857783

  26. 37

    Liberal Scientist is a a dirty fucking hippie, and THE SPAWN OF SATAN (according to resident Bibul-thumper puddles) spews:

    and those companies employ lots of people too…

    Defense spending employs least number of people per $$$ of government spending. Plus, what’s made isn’t really a capital investment – it doesn’t have a multiplier effect that say, a better power grid or repaired roads has, and lots of the stuff (munitions) is essentially ‘disposable’.

  27. 38

    MikeBoyScout spews:

    Romney/Ryan
    Gekko/Galt – 2012 Leadership proven at the Republican National Convention!

    – Isaac
    – The Ron Paul Revolution
    Me-Me-Me! Ruths Chris Christie
    – The Peanuts
    – Paul Ryan’s Factually Challenged Speech
    – Constant Distractions, On Stage And Off
    – Clint Eastwood Debates An Empty Chair

  28. 39

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Kudlow says, among other things, Romney should have talked about cutting personal taxes. But I don’t see how this relates to jobs. If you own a small business your income tax rate on the portion of your gross business receipts that you pay to employees is already zero. If you are wealthy enough to owe taxes on income above $250,000 a year, that income is what you’ve taken out of the business as personal income after paying all your business expenses including all the costs of your employees. So the only effect on hiring that a cut in personal income tax rates has is the indirect effect of making more personal income available for personal consumption. But that’s true regardless of whether you give the tax cut to the middle class or the rich. In fact a tax cut for the rich has less effect on personal consumption, and therefore on hiring, than a middle class tax cut because the rich invest much of their income whereas the middle class tends to spend it.

  29. 40

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    We need to get away from this whole idea that cutting business taxes stimulates hiring because it doesn’t. Taxes are a straw man vis-a-vis hiring. Cutting the corporate tax rate won’t cause a single additional employee to be hired. Payroll costs aren’t part of a corporation’s taxable income. The money spent on retaining a workforce isn’t taxed. It’s an expense that’s taken out of gross revenue in determining taxable profits. Thus, when politicians or commentators talk about cutting corporate taxes or personal income taxes, they’re not talking about something that has any relationship to job creation. They’re talking about money that goes to the owners of the business, which by definition is not used for hiring or any other business expense. Whether big business or small business, there is no connection between taxes on business profits and expenses for employees. It is a false pairing.

  30. 41

    Liberal Scientist is a a dirty fucking hippie, and THE SPAWN OF SATAN (according to resident Bibul-thumper puddles) spews:

    @38, 39

    Cutting taxes is a point of faith, the raison d’etre of the rich peoples’ party. Whatever political reality happens to exist (ie need for more jobs) will be shoehorned and twisted into service as the latest reason we absolutely have to cut taxes.

    It also starves government, and its ability to be a vehicle for truly participatory government.

    These people want a neofeudal theocracy.

  31. 42

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    The job numbers don’t tell the whole story; far from it. The quality of jobs matters as much, if not more than, the quantity of jobs.

    “While a majority of jobs lost during the downturn were in the middle range of wages, a majority of those added during the recovery have been low paying …. The disappearance of midwage, midskill jobs is part of a longer-term trend that some refer to as a hollowing out of the work force, though it has probably been accelerated by government layoffs.

    “The middle third — occupations in fields like construction, manufacturing and information, with median hourly wages of $13.84 to $21.13 — accounted for 60 percent of job losses from the beginning of 2008 to early 2010. … The job market has turned around since then, but those fields have represented only 22 percent of total job growth. …

    “Lower-wage occupations, with median hourly wages of $7.69 to $13.83, accounted for 21 percent of job losses during the retraction. Since employment started expanding, they have accounted for 58 percent of all job growth.”

    http://www.cnbc.com/id/48858760

    Roger Rabbit Commentary: Romney apparently thinks it’s fine to replace $20-an-hour jobs with $9-an-hour jobs. (This from a guy who never worked an $9 job in his life.) At least that’s how he came across. But let’s think about this for a moment. If he visualizes an economy in which workers work 80 hours at 2 jobs paying $9 to make roughly the same income they did by working 40 hours in a $20 job, then you need to create twice as many jobs to break even because now everyone needs 2 jobs instead of 1 job. That that really means is we need 46 million jobs for 23 million unemployed people, and he’s only promising 12 million jobs, which means three-fourths of the unemployed will still be unemployed after Romney has been president for 4 years. Or, figuring another way, half will still be unemployed and the employed half will be making half as much as they used to. That’s not much of a promise to America’s unemployed workers. It would seem Romney has set the bar so low that even his kind of businessman — the asset-skimmers who destroy wealth and jobs — can climb over it. He doesn’t have to do much more than sit back and let our current 2% GDP growth keep creating 150,000 jobs a month.

  32. 43

    Puddybud spews:

    The part about his parents was good, but soon after her listed every woman he ever worked with – clumsy and transparent, he allows women in his presence.

    Once again Lib da schmuck engages in his favorite pastime, DUMMOCRAPT projection. The proof is in the pudding as they say. When Obummer was senator, Obummer underpaid women by a $6K average for the same job. FACTS from the Illinois SoS!

  33. 44

    Puddybud spews:

    “Lower-wage occupations, with median hourly wages of $7.69 to $13.83, accounted for 21 percent of job losses during the retraction. Since employment started expanding, they have accounted for 58 percent of all job growth.”

    Oh you mean like those low paying jobs Clinton created and Puddy gave the links for from DUMMOCRAPTIC web sites?

  34. 45

    Czechsaaz spews:

    Stole this, not sure where I read it,

    So after all the pomp and speeches, Romney still hasn’t released his taxes, didn’t mention terrorism or war cause foreign policy is a loser for Romyan, has no jobs plan but tax cuts, and Paul Ryan is fielding only questions about why he lied at every opportunity. Enjoy the run-up to Charlotte.

    (cue the “media’s in the tank for Obama” from Piddles as if pointing out that Obama can’t kill a proposal that never reaches his desk since Paul Ryan killed it personally in committee and all the other lies. Right, the media SHOUL ignore basic facts to seem balanced

  35. 47

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @40 “It also starves government, and its ability to be a vehicle for truly participatory government.”

    Participatory government is a result of the money we spend on elections, presidential travel across the country, legislative hearings and townhall meetings, etc. It’s a significant expense item for governments at all levels that businesses don’t have, and illustrates why not all government functions are efficient and why sometimes they shouldn’t be — it’s always cheaper to make command decisions than to involve the public in decision-making. In evaluating the cost structure of various functions, though, this higher “process cost” is offset by the fact businesses have to make a profit for their owners or investors whereas government doesn’t have a “profit cost.”

    The real issue here is not participatory government but rather government services. There are two basic reasons why government, instead of private business, delivers a specific kind of service. One, because it involves exercise of powers we entrust only to government. We do not, for example, give private businesses “police powers.” We entrust the power to compel solely to government so that we can require those who manage it to answer to we the voters. The police chief supervises the cops, the mayor hires the police chief, and we can vote out the mayor if we don’t like how the cops are doing their jobs. Two, we give certain jobs to government because private business can’t do them profitably or doesn’t want them for some other reason. An example is delivering mail in rural areas where mail delivery is a money-losing operation because the population is too sparse to make it profitable. Rural roads and rural electrification are other examples of how we turn over money-losing services to government because those services are considered socially essential or beneficial. In other words, much of what government does is inherently inefficient and unprofitable, and we give that work to government precisely because it is.

    Participatory government is a very important part of our societal structure, but it’s a means to an end, rather than an end in itself. It’s how we decide what government will do, and how government does it. It is those things that government does that is the ultimate goal of paying taxes and exercising our participatory role as citizens and voters.

  36. 48

    Puddybud spews:

    Tale of four people…

    Romney heads to LA to see the storm damage. Obummer heads to Texas to campaign. Ann Romney sends her condolences to Robin Roberts. Michelle Obummer is mum.

  37. 49

    rhp6033 spews:

    Didn’t see the speeches, I was working until 11:00 last night exporting $200 million worth of American-made products (mostly), most of which were assembled using skilled union labor. That made for a 16 hour day, I have another 16 hour day scheduled today.

    But I did catch the news on four different channels on the commute into work this morning. Funny thing, they were all talking about Clint Eastwood, and debating whether he was showing signs of “old age” (to put it charitably). Most commentators agree he put on a good performance, but with nothing of substance, at best.

    But what is interesting is that even though there were clips from Clint’s speech played on several news stations, there were none of Romney’s speech. By the time they finished discussing Clint’s speech, Romney was relegated to “Oh, and Mitt Romney gave his big speech last night, also.”

    I’m pretty sure that’s not what the Romney campaign intended.

  38. 50

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @44 The media shouldn’t be “balanced” in the way it has become. Rumors don’t deserve the same print space or air time as confirmed facts. He said/she said reporting is an abdication of editorial responsibility — we pay journalists to find out what’s really going on because we don’t have the time, resources, or expertise to sort through it all. A journalist’s job is to tell it like it is, not to tell us Bob says it’s this way and Sue says it’s that way — we probably already know what Bob and Sue say, and we’re paying journalists to give us hard information, i.e., which version of the story is the correct one. “Balanced” reporting, in the sense it’s being practiced by today’s media, simply gives a license to propagandists to present bullshit as fact to a public that ends up confused because no one is out there to help them sort bullshit from facts. I want to see reporters dig for truth and editors decide what’s worthy of our attention, as the old-time journalists did in the old days before journalism got watered down into what it is today.

  39. 51

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @47 “Romney heads to LA to see the storm damage.”

    That’s not campaigning? Of course it is!

  40. 52

    Puddybud spews:

    The media shouldn’t be “balanced” in the way it has become.

    Funniest line of the week from Roger SENILE Wabbit! The media is in the bag for Obummer. Last night’s coverage proved it more than ever! When the slobbering media interviewed Marco Rubio, you could see their hatred front and center from their demeanor and questions!

  41. 53

    Czechsaaz spews:

    @49

    Exactly. Imagine the interview

    Christopher Columbus sails to the new World but others say the world is flat. Here to discuss, flat Earth society president Giovani Caruso.

    Or the newspaper op/Ed: clearly the Wright brothers are wrong because 56% of those polled agree, man can’t fly.

  42. 54

    Puddybud spews:

    “when the world needs someone to do the really big stuff, you need an American.”

    Ed I Know Sluts Schultz went unhinged last night!

  43. 55

    MikeBoyScout spews:

    @47 “Romney heads to LA to see the storm damage.”

    Why? Is he going to promise to stop the water from rising? Or maybe complain about all that government spending on levees and emergency personnel?

    Surely a tax cut would solve all of the problems of the flood victims.

  44. 57

    Czechsaaz spews:

    @53

    Americans like Guttenberg? Americans like Einstein? Americans like Berners-Lee?

    The line between pride for your country and jingoistic asshole is a fine one.

  45. 58

    MikeBoyScout spews:

    @55 Puddles, walked right in to that didn’t you?
    Didn’t know that Obama did stop the water from rising in Louisiana with stimulus spending on levees in 2010.

    LOL

  46. 59

    Puddybud spews:

    What tough thing did Einstein do? Romney was referring to Neil Armstrong on the moon.

    Man checksez is another leftist moron! A real hater!

  47. 60

    Puddybud spews:

    That’s why the flooding in LA is nonexistent per CubScout above.

    LOL – ROTFLRHMBBAO! Puddy used leftist MSM too!

  48. 61

    MikeBoyScout spews:

    @59, You really are a Republican.
    When the facts are inconvenient you make up your own which make no sense.

    Yes, some levees were breached, but you do know who “built it”?

  49. 62

    Puddybud spews:

    “Even with all the hidden taxes to pay for the health care takeover, even with new taxes on nearly a million small businesses, the planners in Washington still didn’t have enough money. They needed more. They needed hundreds of billions more. So, they just took it all away from Medicare.” – Paul Ryan

    Now we see ObummerCare will cost $2.6 Trillion and climbing the slobbering leftist msm forgot what Obummer said… He would not approve a plan that costs over $1 Trillion. It wasn’t a tax – corrected by SCOTUS! So Obummer raids Medicare. Leftist go nuts.

    But you all seem to forget what Timmy TaxCheat Geithner said.”We’re not coming before you to say we have a definitive solution to that long-term problem. What we do know is we don’t like yours.”

    Nuff said suckas!

  50. 63

    rhp6033 spews:

    # 39: We learned that from the Great Depression. Hoover and the Republican-led Congress tried the old solutions of cutting taxes, tied together with trade barriers, and found that it doesn’t work in a 20th century economy. Cutting tax rates during a depression (or serious rescession) doesn’t help, because businesses are already reporting losses. Any tax rate you choose, multiplied by zero, is still zero. Hoover and the Republicans still clung to that model because, well, they didn’t have any other model they knew. F.D.R., however, was reading economics books, and was willing to push through the new ideas.

    Yet despite the lessons learned in the 1930′s, the Republicans still insist that their 1800′s economic philosophy works better than that which was proven to work in the 20th century. Of course, they have a vested interest in doing so – they want their financial backers to make big profits, even though they aren’t being hurt by a rescession. To do so they throw up smokescreens and lies, arguing that F.D.R. prolonged the Great Depression, etc. Of course, anybody who lived in that era as part of the working class will be happy to tell you differently.

  51. 64

    Puddybud spews:

    Yes, some levees were breached, but you do know who “built it”?

    Army Corps of Engineers!

    No wonder you are still a CubScout!

  52. 65

    Puddybud spews:

    And rhpee6033 we see the same tired budget busting spendathon from libtards worked so well. In fact it worked so well Obummer’s economic team headed back to academia to reevaluate their economic theses WRT why their failed theories looked so good on those excel spreadsheets.

  53. 66

    Puddybud spews:

    When the facts are inconvenient you make up your own which make no sense.

    Ummm… nope you dope… that’s your friends on PMSNBC!

  54. 67

    Czechsaaz spews:

    @58

    So tough outweighs brains? So Americans like Magellan? Americans like Edmund Hillary? Would this be a good time to discuss Wernher Von Braun and his role in getting Armstrong off the ground?

    But your right. Diplomacy under Willard will be awesome.

  55. 68

    Puddybud spews:

    So Americans like Magellan?

    America was around when Magellan sailed the seas?

    Who knew? checksez knew… He’s weally weally old!

  56. 69

    MikeBoyScout spews:

    @63 Puddles, good for you! You understand that families were helped and the water did not rise as high as it might because the federal government led by Obama has the federal tax payer supported Army Corps of Engineers build and maintain levees.

    In civilian projects, the Corps became the lead federal flood control agency and significantly expanded its civil works activities, becoming among other things, a major provider of hydroelectric energy and the country’s leading provider of recreation; its role in responding to natural disasters also grew dramatically. In the late 1960s, the Corps became a leading environmental preservation and restoration agency.

    WE built that!

  57. 71

    No Time for Fascists spews:

    In Louisiana, Romney will thank emergency first responders for their work.

    As he thanks those first responders, I hope Mr. Romney will reconsider his words from just two months ago, when he mocked President Obama for seeking more funding for first responders.

    “He [President Obama] says we need more fireman, more policeman, more teachers,” Romney said on June 8 of this year. “Did he not get the message of Wisconsin? The American people did. It’s time for us to cut back on government and help the American people.”

    What do you expect from a master flip flopper, etch a sketch person.
    Conservative, how long before you dump this guy for a real conservative?

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    rhp6033 spews:

    # 70: What Scott Walker did in Wisconsin has now become an official plank of the Republican Party platform.

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    Politically Incorrect spews:

    All this talk about cutting taxes, blah, blah, blah!

    Just enact a simple, flat-rate tax code and stop bithching about it already!

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    Puddybud spews:

    Yeah GW Bush authorizes $19+ Billion of Louisiana levees and other repairs. Army Corps of Engineers spent $14+ Billion repairing levees! Oh the levees were in disrepair all during the Carter, Reagan, Bush and Clinton years! Another historical fact!

    Thanks for playing CubScout!

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    Puddybud spews:

    What Scott Walker did in Wisconsin has now become an official plank of the Republican Party platform.

    Yes he smacked the union thugs back into their cages.

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    rhp6033 spews:

    # 64: Budgets were on schedule to be balanced within a short period under President’s Carter and Clinton. The budget-busting was done under Reagan and George W. Bush. President Obama could have balanced the budget in a few short years if not for the 2008 economic crash (caused by Republican economic philosophies in action), and Republican obstructionism to economic recovery.

    And that’s pretty much the end of my discussion with you today, Puddles. You have still failed to repudiate your buddy Glenn Beck’s comment that the teenage victims of the Swedish right-power shooter were attending “Hitler Youth” camps. I don’t have anything further to say to you.

    Mokusatsu.

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    Puddybud spews:

    (caused by Republican economic philosophies in action), and Republican obstructionism to economic recovery.

    Republican theories were working perfectly until Pelosi and Reid got hold of the purse strings. Then the economy tanked. Remember January 2007, gas price was what rhpee6033… Then in March 2007 they were what rhpee6033? When Bush left office they were what rhpee6033? What are they now rhpee6033? And don’t give me those tired excuses ovoer the fire in CA. That affects west coast gas.

    Bawney Fwank admitted earlier this year he wasn’t strident enough over Freddie and Fannie and their profligate loan practices. Of course Bawney wanted those poor peeps to have housing loans they couldn’t afford. So the bills came due and Bawney blamed Bush. Except the facts were 180 degrees opposite. So now that Bawney is retiring he came clean. That’s why a big time DUMMOCRAPT paid millions in fines leading one of those organizations. Can you remember who that was rhpee6033? Puddy doubts it. You’re part of the 24 hour moronic memory malady crowd!

    Run away now rhpee6033… I don’t need to publicly repudiate everything you proffer here just because I disagree with it. You aren’t my confessor and I don’t respect your positions anyway!

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    czechsaaz spews:

    I propose HA get a version of Godwin’s law just for this blog.

    Proposed: In any open thread or economic discussion, it is only a matter of time before Puddy asserts cutting taxes while increasing government expenditures due to massive defense budget increases (Reagan) and cutting taxes while exploding expenditures with two wars and an unfunded prescription drug program (Bush Jt.), the resulting economic calamity are, per genius Puddy assertion, the fault of Bawney Fwank, Pelosi and Reid or in the case of Reaganomics, the fault of Tip O’Neil. Further, it is resolved that Puddy is incapable of typing Barney Frank as ridiculing an adults speech impediment is totally funny.

    Role call for votes.

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    Deathfrogg spews:

    @ RHP

    Despite the lessons learned in the 1930’s, the Republicans still insist that their 1800’s economic philosophy works better than that which was proven to work in the 20th century. Of course, they have a vested interest in doing so – they want their financial backers to make big profits, even though they aren’t being hurt by a rescession.

    It goes deeper than that. Marco Rubio, Paul Ryan Mitt Rmnoey et al have a vested interest in seeing the US Dollar drop on the world currency market. They have taken out huge short positions on the bond market vis-a-vis the Dollar. They are actively betting on the collapse.

    And they are in a position to make it happen.