Rep. Inslee files bill to save Internet radio

Kudos to Rep. Jay Inslee (WA-01) for filing legislation yesterday to reverse a federal Copyright Royalty Board (CRB) decision that threatens to kill Internet radio.

The CRB decision would charge webcasters $0.0019 per song per listener in 2010, increasing rates by between 300 and 1200 percent, depending on the current size of audience. It would not apply to terrestrial broadcasters on the AM and FM bands, but would apply to their web streams.

The Inslee-Manzullo Internet Radio Equality Act would provide royalty parity, vacating the CRB’s March 2 decision and applying the same royalty rate of 7.5 percent of revenues to commercial Internet radio, satellite radio, cable radio and jukeboxes.

“This Titanic rate increase is simply untenable for many Internet radio broadcasters,” said Inslee, a member of the House Energy and Commerce Subcommittee on Telecommunications and the Internet.

“You can’t put an economic chokehold on this emerging force of democracy,” he added. “There has to be a business model that allows creative webcasters to thrive and the existing rule removes all the oxygen from this space.”

Rep. Inslee will be my guest on “The David Goldstein Show” this coming Sunday at 7PM, on Newsradio 710-KIRO. We will be discussing Internet radio and food safety.


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    Roger Rabbit spews:

    The big story in the latest U.S. Attorney scandal e-mails is they wanted to fire Patrick Fitzgerald in the middle of the Scooter Libby trial, but backed off because they didn’t think they could get away with it. See Huffington Post for details.

  2. 4

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Hey ghost how’s it feel to be in a burning forest? The whole Republican world is going up in flames.

  3. 5


    roger…..oh, please! you can’t be serious. did you really get some ‘bad’ bunny food or something, because i have really come to expect better from you than this.
    you can beat this dead horse all you want…no matter what you say this isn’t a scandal, never was, never will be and it really makes it hard to take anything you say seriously.
    if this is a scandal then clinton and all his aides should be hanged at noon….on TV.
    gawd…get real………

  4. 6

    ArtFart spews:

    5 Oh, the shoe pinches a little when it’s on the other foot, does it?

    You should read the latest article by John Dean, if you can take a deep breath and refrain from a knee-jerk dismissal of him as a traitor to the cause because he broke ranks with the extremists. He writes that he’s never before seen the Justice Dept. used so blatantly used as a political tool, and he’s taking what went on under Nixon/Mitchell’s watch into account.

    From listening to, or reading the transcript of, last week’s Judiciary Committee hearings, you’d have to stretch disbelief all out of shape not to come to the conclusion that Gonzales is either the world’s greatist actor or dumb as a dog turd. Furthermore, if it’s the former, then that means he’s lying his arse off. If it’s the latter, it means he’s just been holding down a chair while someone else calls the shots. Take your pick which turns your stomach the least. Even Orrin Hatch gave up on trying to ask candy-coated questions to make him look good.

    My guess is that they’ve only scratched the surface of this, and the deeper it goes, the stinkier it’s gonna get. It’s already got lying about a little nookie beat by a country mile.

  5. 7

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @5 “did you really get some ‘bad’ bunny food or something”

    Probably. With you guys in charge, there’s not much left in this country that hasn’t been poisoned.

  6. 8


    dean was not paying much attention during the clinton years, was he?
    and i wasn’t talking about the sex…….
    clinton dismissed almost every last one of the same attorneys in those positions…..and your point is????

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    ArtFart spews:

    The RIAA and MPAA are “bipartisan” crooks, and quite good at adapting their lobbying efforts to tack with the political winds. Jack Abramoff and his ilk no doubt learned plenty from these folks. They presented a liberal/democratic facade through the 90’s, while they were schmoozing the likes of Fritz Hollings (AKA “the Senator from Disney”) to get the DMCA passed. Then just before Bush took office, Hillary Rosen resigned as RIAA president and who should be waiting in the wings to take her place but a former chairman of the RNC.

    If ever there was an entity that embodies pure, rapacious corporate greed, it’s the major-label recording cartel.

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    George W. Bush lost the WAR and GBS knows that conservatives politicians and their supporters are TROOP HATERS!! spews:

    christmasghost @ 5 & 8:

    Tsk, tsk, tsk, are you willfully ignorant, or just such a party hack you’re willing to compromise the Rule of Law to retain your party’s tenious grip on power?

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    George W. Bush lost the WAR and GBS knows that conservatives politicians and their supporters are TROOP HATERS!! spews:

    ArtFart @ 6:

    Speaking of breaking ranks with the Republcian crime machine, George Tennet is coming out with a new book.

    Gues what?

    The “slam dunk” line Bush liked to throw around blaming Tennet for the bad intel; taken out of context and turned into a sleazy lie!

    I just love watching modern day Conservatism go the way of McCarthyism.

    It’s happening and almost complete. What would prevent the complete implosion of the Republcian Party is if people like christmasghost would hold their Republican leaders to account.

    But they don’t so . . . Buh-bye conservaties.

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    George W. Bush lost the WAR and GBS knows that conservatives politicians and their supporters are TROOP HATERS!! spews:

    The use of the word “scandal” is no longer correct when talking about Republicans. The correct phrase is “criminal conspiracy.”

    Left-wing, Liberal talking point of the day.

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    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @5 “no matter what you say this isn’t a scandal, never was, never will be”

    You’re in serious denial, ghost. You have your head so far up your ass you couldn’t see a train coming right at you. Here’s what happened.

    Republicans want to be in power forever. But because no one in their right mind would actually elect these assholes, they have to steal elections. The best way for them to do that is keep blacks from voting. Since blacks vote 90% Democratic (puffybutt notwithstanding) and many Republicans (I didn’t say all; but certainly many) are unreconstructed racists, they get a two-fer by intimidating and suppressing black voters.

    Trouble is, interfering with a minority’s voting rights is a felony under the 1965 Voting Rights Act. Being a felon has disadvantages. For example, you can’t vote or — even worse — have a gun. Not to mention the inconvenience of doing prison time, and the discomfort of getting butt-banged by the big black guy that put you in a cell with.

    Now, most normal people try to stay out of jail by not committing crimes, but Republicans don’t work that way. They can’t steal elections or loot the economy by operating within the law, because we made that stuff illegal back in the more civilized days when Democrats ran the government, so they have to figure out a way of getting away with their felonies.

    That’s where appointing party hacks to federal prosecutor jobs comes in.

    The main function of these people is to look the other way at the GOP voter suppression machine, which is a great big conspiracy that could literally send thousands of Republicans to jail. A secondary function is to file malicious prosecutions against innocent Democrats, like that Wisconsin state employee who was recently release from prison by a federal appeals court that scathingly accused a Bush-appointed prosecutor of charging her on “less than flimsy” evidence — i.e., on no evidence at all — for propaganda purposes. The idea here is to focus public attention on mythical Democratic “vote fraud” to distract public attention away from the pervasive, massive, and very real RNC-orchestrated election fraud operations. Once again, they get a two-fer. Republicans love buy-one-get-one-free deals!

    The vast rightwing conspiracy (yes, Virginia, it really exists) miscalculated, however. They foolishly — perhaps arrogantly — assumed they could control the flow of information and keep the truth from leaking. But Washington D.C. leaks like a holy cheesecloth. Always has, always will. Many have tried to plug the leaks (remember Nixon’s “plumbers” unit?) but none have ever succeeded.

    The problem is, Republicans always treat employees like shit, and this pisses off employees. So the much-abused low-level cubicle slaves get even by making copies of stuff and slipping it to reporters. That’s how it works in the real world, ghost. Even the Kremlin couldn’t control the leakers. They regularly shot them, but that never stopped it. And never will.

    Now it’s get-even time, ghost. Your party’s thugs have been pushing around the hirelings for six years now. But now they smell blood, and they’re leaking with a vengeance. You fuckers are going DOWN. And I don’t mean just at the polls. Under the next administration, card carrying Republicans will be standing in line at prison gates waiting to sign prisoner logbooks.

    We need to invest in mass transit because we won’t be able to build enough freeways for all the prison buses. When the new Democratic administration in ’08, with a new team of prosecutors, gets to the bottom of all the shit you rightwing assholes have pulled the investigations and trials will trigger the largest mass migration in 100 years — from the nation’s country clubs to the nation’s prisons! Half the Republicans in the country will be in jail. The bright side of this is you’ll see a lot of familiar faces when you get there.

    Reminds me of a client I had years ago. Unfortunately I couldn’t keep her out of prison, but that was more because of her behavior than my lawyering. There was nothing wrong with my lawyering, but her behavior was a problem. Anyway, when she arrived at Purdy, the first words she heard were, “Hi, Betty! You’re back!” She was, once again, among old friends.

    Gonna be the same for you, ghost. And you’ll look pretty in pink — pink jumpsuits, that is.

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    Roger Rabbit spews:

    That Texas sheriff who dresses the inmates in pink jumpsuits and feeds ‘em prison loaf has the right idea.

    We should use that as a business model for the hospitality services we render to the Republican crooks and liars as guests of our public lodgings.

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    ArtFart spews:

    8 I stand corrected, and I applaud you for not taking the discussion in that direction.

    Did Clinton replace the US attorneys over and over again…and then slander their competency to cover up the real reason for doing so?

    We could go on and on, but so what? Who’s President now? Where does the buck stop?

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    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @5 Maybe we’ll do it your way, ghost — not call it a “scandal” anymore.

    GBS has a point; “criminal conspiracy” sounds better.

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    ArtFart spews:

    Christmas Ghost, Roger has a point about this conspiracy business. I’m beginning to get the impression you and I are of similar age, and grew up with the likes of Barry Goldwater and Everett Dirksen. I used to be a Republican myself, but not any more. This new crop of folks are something different altogether.

    Sure, anyone in power wants to stay in power. That’s OK. It’s like wanting to win a sandlot baseball game. But when the other team starts to get ahead of you, and you react by beating them up with the bats, or put ipecac in their Gatorade, or have your Dad bring his bulldozer over and plow up the field….well, it ain’t right.

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    George W. Bush lost the WAR and GBS knows that conservatives politicians and their supporters are TROOP HATERS!! spews:

    Hey, next Tuesday is a big day of celebration for Republicans.

    Yep, it’s the 4th anniversary of “Mission Accomplished Day”!! Whoooopeeeeee!!

    Only thing is, Speaker Pelosi and Leader Reid have sort of put a damper on the Republican’s ‘victory’ parade. Yeah, that’s the day George W. Bush is gonig to veto legislation to support our troops.

    We wouldn’t be having this political arguement if Bush had anticipated that we’d be in the Iraq War again this year when you submitted his budget request.

    Oh wait, yes he did, he said previously that “future US Presidents would have to pull US forces out of Iraq.”

    Sounds like deriliction of duty to me! Why didn’t George W. Bush consider the troops when he was submitting his budget?

    Why is Bush going to stab out troops in the back — again?

    Why don’t Republicans vote to support the troops?

    Conservatives = TROOP HATERS.

    It’s a Criminal Conspiracy!

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    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Clinton didn’t fire U.S. Attorneys so he could replace them with guys who run illegal vote-suppression operation.

    The Tim Griffin he appointed as U.S. Attorney in Alabama is the same Tim Griffin exposed in this article:

    “The Republican National Committee has a special offer for African-American soldiers: Go to Baghdad, lose your vote.

    “A confidential campaign directed by GOP party chiefs in October 2004 sought to challenge the ballots of tens of thousands of voters in the last presidential election, virtually all of them cast by residents of Black-majority precincts.

    “Files from the secret vote-blocking campaign were obtained by BBC Television Newsnight, London. They were attached to emails accidentally sent by Republican operatives to a non-party website.

    “One group of voters wrongly identified by the Republicans as registering to vote from false addresses: servicemen and women sent overseas.

    “Here’s how the scheme worked: The RNC mailed these voters letters in envelopes marked, ‘Do not forward’, to be returned to the sender. These letters were mailed to servicemen and women, some stationed overseas, to their US home addresses. The letters then returned to the Bush-Cheney campaign as ‘undeliverable.’ The lists of soldiers of ‘undeliverable’ letters were transmitted from state headquarters … to the RNC in Washington. The party could then challenge the voters’ registration and thereby prevent their absentee ballots being counted.

    “One target list was comprised exclusively of voters registered at the Jacksonville, Florida, Naval Air Station. … [See this scrub sheet at;size=o ] …

    “A soldier returning home in time to vote in November 2004 could also be challenged on the basis of the returned envelope. Soldiers challenged would be required to vote by ‘provisional’ ballot. Over one million provisional ballots cast in the 2004 race were never counted; over half a million absentee ballots were also rejected. The extraordinary rise in the number of rejected ballots was the result of the widespread multi-state voter challenge campaign by the Republican Party. …

    “The BBC obtained several dozen confidential emails sent by the Republican’s national Research Director and Deputy Communications chief, Tim Griffin to GOP Florida campaign chairman Brett Doster and other party leaders. Attached were spreadsheets marked, ‘Caging.xls.’ Each of these contained several hundred to a few thousand voters and their addresses. A check of the demographics of the addresses on the ‘caging lists,’ as the GOP leaders called them indicated that most were in African-American majority zip codes.

    “Ion Sanco, the non-partisan elections supervisor of Leon County (Tallahassee) when shown the lists by this reporter said: ‘The only thing I can think of – African American voters listed like this – these might be individuals that will be challenged if they attempted to vote on Election Day.’ …

    “The Republican National Committee in Washington refused our several requests to respond to the BBC discovery. … The party has refused to say why it would mark soldiers as having ‘bad addresses’ subject to challenge when they had been assigned abroad. … Setting up such a challenge list would be a crime under federal law. … While the party insisted the lists were not created for the purpose to challenge Black voters, the GOP ultimately offered no other explanation for the mailings. …

    “Soldiers sending in their ballot from abroad would not know their vote was lost because of a challenge.”

    Quoted under Fair Use; for complete article and/or copyright info see

    Roger Rabbit Commentary: Challenging voters based on their race is a FELONY under federal law. This means Bush appointed a CRIMINAL to be federal prosecutor in Alabama.

    Yes, it’s normal for an incoming president to replace all of the prosecutors from the other party with people of his own party. And nobody has EVER criticized Bush for doing it, too. What the U.S. Attorney criminal conspiracy involves is not replacing prosecutors per se, but using the key positions in federal law enforcement to (a) protect Republicans committing election crimes, and (b) railroad innocent Democrats to create an illusion of “Democratic voting fraud.”

    Here’s the deal, ghost. Bush took an oath to uphold the laws of the United States. Instead, he puts party hacks in prosecutor jobs to facilitate breaking federal election laws. Violating his oath of office is an impeachable offense, dearie. It’s actionable; and we’re gonna act on it. Count on it.

    You lying thieving criminals are GOING DOWN.

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    Tree Frog Farmer spews:

    I try to keep my comments to single syllables for our ectoplasmic apparatchik (oops, there I go again!). The simple fact is the RIAA=FASCISM. Any corporate conspiracy that lobbies for and then actively uses our various police agencies to enforce their questionable agendas, is clearly FASCIST.
    Take a short glance at Ernie Ball’s website. Yes, that Ernie Ball, of “slinky guitar strings” and then get back to me.

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    George W. Bush lost the WAR and GBS knows that conservatives politicians and their supporters are TROOP HATERS!! spews:

    Roger Rabbit @ 19:

    So if I understand you correctly you could summarzie all this “activity” by the Republicans as coordinated? Yes.

    Does that not make it a “criminal conspiracy” then?

    A scandal is getting a blow job by some intern.

    A criminal conspiracy is involving other people in a common goal of suberting the Rule of Law.

    Bill Clinton; definetly guilty of committing a scandal.

    George W. Bush; definetly guilty of criminal conspiracy.

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    headless lucy spews:

    re 8: There you go again. You guys always come back to the original twisted talking point when you’ve run out of lies.

    Well. Ronald Reagan did the same thing with the attorneys before Clinton did.

    Ronnie’s wizened little stump, however, was never the subject of some young woman’s oral ministrations (“blow job” for the layman).

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    Tree Frog Farmer spews:

    Gee, Roger, we’ve been assured by that renown legal theorist “Too Much Cappuchino” Perino that there have been no violations of the Hatch Act. . . . . .

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    ArtFart spews:

    I dunno if Pelosi and Ried really deserve the credit (or the blame, depending on your point of view) for the administration’s current state of embarrassment. The Bushistas, quite frankly, stepped on their own cranks. This seems to often be the downfall of groups whose lust for power dilutes not only their moral scruples but their awareness that they’re less than gods. They want more and more until their reach exceeds their grasp. It’s a little like the behavior of an addict, who eventually takes more and more of whatever he’s abusing until he crashes, hopefully thereafte to be motivated to seek help and get well. If the neocon juggernaut gets derailed at this point, it’ll be like the turning point for a “high-bottom drunk”. Our government and our nation will likely recover and go on to bigger and better things.

    Hell, it’s Friday, and I’m trying to inject an optomistic thought.

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    ArtFart spews:

    22 Lucy, as to your last allegation, who knows? I really don’t think I want to know!

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    ArtFart spews:

    20 You might also go look at some of the archived articles at Janis Ian’s Web site. She presents a quite lucid explanation of how the recording industry has for decades cheated artists out of most of what should be their income by signing them up to “exclusive promotional contracts.” For many, if not most, they never see a royalty check, and the only cash they themselves get from their CD’s is by hawking them at their own concerts…and even then the label generally doesn’t give them a break on the wholesale price! Nowadays, cheaper technology is making it possible for artists to produce and peddle their own stuff, and that’s what really has the major labels’ britches in a bunch.

    The really onerous part of the DMCA is that the recording cartel managed to get it worded to give themselves police power…when in other circumstances their tactics would get them nailed under the RICO statutes. The foxes really are running the henhouse.

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    RightEqualsStupid spews:

    As the cowards and inbred traitors like Ghost tell it, there’s no difference between what President Clinton did with his US Attorneys and what the AWOL coke-sniffing Bush did.

    Well that lie might sell on the Lush Flimbaugh show bitch but here’s the truth.

    President Clinton fired ALL the attorneys and he did it at the change of administration. It’s unprecidented to fire US attorneys in the middle of the administration. Then there’s the politics. Bush’s butt-boys are supposed to use the law to help Publicans and when they don’t he fires them. Then he lies about it and THAT’s the difference.

    Of course you can’t expect a Publican to understand ANYTHING about truth or justice. It’s beyond their mental capacity.

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    Proud To Be An Ass spews:

    clinton dismissed almost every last one of the same attorneys in those positions…..and your point is????

    So did George Bush, so did his dad, so did Reagan, probly Carter….yada, yada, yada….

    But none of those guys conducted a purge later in their administration. Now Stalin did that. So I guess one can conclude that George Bush is just like Stalin.

    I love wingnut logic. More pliable than silly putty.

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    Proud To Be An Ass spews:

    Wingnut logic: If you flatten it out and press it on the newspaper and remove it, you can always see the face of Jonah Goldberg.

    A fucking miracle.

  28. 31

    Proud To Be An Ass spews:

    Wingnut n wing’nutt. USAF personnel in some quarters. Appellation transferred to politically conservative types after they spent $40m to prove that Clinton received blowjobs in the White House. Right wing cabal dedicated to crowning stupidity and ignorance on the altar of political expediency in order to ensure the power and dominance of the economically entrenched. cf Marie Antionette and “let them eat cake” media flap, France, eighteenth centruy.

  29. 32

    Proud To Be An Ass spews:

    …..Now Stalin did that. So I guess one can conclude that George Bush is just like Stalin.

    Come to think of it, so did Hitler…see “night of the long knives” (1934) when he eliminated the Ernst Rohm and the SA leadership.

    So I guess that makes Alberto the modern day Himmler.

    Gawd, I love playing right wingnut analogies.

  30. 34

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Hey kids! It’s time for the FRIDAY NIGHT NEWS dump! Lookee who the vice squad reeled in:

    Bush’s Foreign-Aid Chief Snared In Call Girl Probe

    “WASHINGTON (April 27) – Randall Tobias, head of the Bush administration’s foreign aid programs, abruptly resigned Friday after his name surfaced in an investigation into a high-priced call-girl ring, said two people in a position to know the circumstances of his departure. …

    “Tobias submitted his resignation a day after he was interviewed by ABC News … about an alleged prostitution service run by the so-called D.C. Madam.

    “ABC reported … late Friday that Tobias confirmed that he had called the Pamela Martin and Associates escort service to have women come to his condo …. More recently, Tobias told the network, he has been using a service with Central American women. Tobias, 65, who is married, … was on a list of clients given to ABC by Deborah Jeane Palfrey, who owns the escort service and has been charged with running a prostitution ring in the nation’s capital. …

    “Friday evening, the State Department put out a statement announcing Tobias’ resignation, saying he ‘informed Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice today that he must step down as Director of U.S. Foreign Assistance and U.S. Agency for International Development Administrator effective immediately.’ …

    “Tobias held two titles: director of U.S. foreign assistance and administrator for the U.S. Agency for International Development. His rank was equivalent to deputy secretary of state. … Tobias had been the White House’s coordinator for global AIDS relief before taking the USAID post. …

    “Before joining the administration, Tobias was a director and chairman of Eli Lilly and Co., the Indianapolis-based pharmaceutical company. …

    “Tobias was the second public figure identified as a customer of Palfrey’s service. Palfrey recently made good on her threat to identify high-profile clients, listing in court documents a military strategist known for his ‘shock and awe’ combat theories.

    “Palfrey, 50, was indicted in March by a federal grand jury on charges of running the alleged call-girl ring from her home in Vallejo, Calif. She … claimed she has 46 pounds of phone records involving clients. … In court records, prosecutors estimate that her business … generated more than $2 million in revenue over 13 years, with more than 130 women employed at various times to serve thousands of clients at $200 to $300 a session.

    “Palfrey had threatened to sell phone records that would identify 10,000 clients to pay for her criminal defense, but a federal judge ordered her not to release them. Palfrey, however, gave them to ABC News before the order took effect. Prosecutors have accused Palfrey of trying to intimidate potential witnesses by exposing them publicly.”

    Quoted under Fair Use; for complete story and/or copyright info see

    Roger Rabbit Commentary: HOLY SMOKES!!! The D.C. Madam gave her whole fucking client list — 10,000 names — to ABC News!!! This is gonna be fun fun fun fun fun fun fun!!!

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    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Tobias was known for “emphasizing faithfulness and abstinence over condom use to prevent the spread of AIDS” so presumably he didn’t use one when entertaining “Central American women” — and probably has advanced syphilis by now. That explains why he’s a neocon.

  32. 36

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    I read somewhere that over 90% of the women on Rio’s beaches are HIV-positive.

  33. 41

    Richard Pope spews:

    Nor would “impechment”. If you are actually intending to advocate “impeachment”, it helps to start by spelling it right.

  34. 42

    RightEqualsStupid spews:

    Now would be a good time to start looking at the fool Dickless Pope’s posts to see how many typos we can catch in his various screeds against America here at HA…

  35. 43

    RightEqualsStupid spews:

    How many more Bush regime officials do we think we’ll catch in the latest call-girl scandal? I’m betting on three more at least. A Vegas odds maker has the high number at four. After all, the only way a goofy looking, impotent Publican can have sex is to buy some Viagra (like Lush Flimbaugh did) and then pay a hooker.

  36. 44

    harry poon spews:

    Republicans = Chemically Enhanced Boners

    Just what the world needs: A bunch of impotent, hate-filled, self-pitying old Republicans — with raging hard-ons!

  37. 46

    YOS LIB BRO spews:




    Flushbo the fat limp druggie,
    has a taste for teenage flesh,
    he likes to travel to the islands,
    to test out his manliness.
    He really hates liberal bloggers,
    He likes to laugh and call them names,
    His juvenile antics are shameful,
    but it made him rich so he’s OK…
    Then one foggy winter day
    Dubya came to say…
    Flushbo, with your ass so wide..
    Won’t you help me spread some lies?
    Then all the racists loved him
    And they all sang out with glee
    Flushbo, the fat limp druggie
    You’ll go down in schiz-oor-iee

  38. 47

    Ann Coulter's Vagina spews:

    Deer Richerd Poap

    U iz az senslss az I is grematacalley ceeract.

    Yaz, itz stell dri und culd n heer.

  39. 48

    Ann Coulter's Vagina spews:

    And Little dicky?

    The Impeachment and trials of the liars who sent the American soldier to Iraq and burned our Army down would accomplish one thing…


  40. 49

    Heathen Sinner spews:

    I am Republican – I lie, steal and cheat when I’m not being a family man (fat whore) or a crying hypocirte. Got my head so far up my ass I can see my brain. Self righteous bastard that I am got my ass(where my head resides) buried in sand.

  41. 53

    Libertarian spews:


    Where, exactly, does the Constitution decree that government’s repsonsibility is “managing” the economy? Just exaclt where is that written in the constitution?

  42. 54


    We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare , and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

    Or would you rather live in a country on the gold standard?

  43. 56

    Libertarian spews:

    Does “promote the general welfare” mean managing the economy? It seems to me that “promote the general welfare” can be used to justify any government intrusion into and micro-mamagement of our lives. It could also be construed as a reason to get involved in foreign mis-adventures, in the extreme case, when there are no weapons-of-mass-destruction rumors handy to justify military actions.

    Seattlejew, do you think government is “best” at managing the economy? If that is true, then why aren’t we electing economists to be our representatives, senators and presidents? Why are there so many dang lawyers in elected offices? Are the wrong professions running things?

    Management of the economy, if we can call it “management,” is done by the Federal Reserve. Sure, the Fed is related to the government as it is chartered by the government and is a corporation that is wholly-owned by the government. Government has some oversight to this corporation, but its mission is to promote growth and price stability, not support politicians. Government has little influence save approving who the head of the Federal Reserve might be.

    The best thing government can do is get out of the way of the Fed, because management of the economy is the Fed’s job, not the government’s.

    If you want a managed economy, try communism or socialism. No THOSE were some great successes, weren’t they!!!


  44. 58

    RightEqualsStupid spews:

    With Bush at the helm of the White House we see;

    record gas prices
    record trade deficits
    reduced American standing in the world
    house prices falling

    vote Publican if you want more of this…

  45. 59

    FricknFrack, Seattle spews:

    @ 55. seattlejew says: “Anyone wishing to help SeattleJew elect Barack Obama can try this: Contribute to this campaign at my fundraiser. ”

    I wish you well, seattlejew, with your fundraiser! Sorry, but I already donated more than I could afford to Edward’s campaign (living on a fixed income sure cramps my style!). Right after I saw the Katie Couric ‘some people say’ smarmy so-called “interview” that she inflicted on the Edwards, I checked onto Edward’s website & did my donating. (I also refuse to watch Couric since then, by flipping the channel from my formerly favorite CBS station!)

    If I weren’t voting for Edwards, I would likely be checking into Obama’s camp to support. Frankly, my Sister (in Phx) and I BOTH agree that Hillary seems like just another politician, albeit of the female gender. Just because Sis & I are females, doesn’t automatically lock in our vote to ensure the ‘first female president’.

    Funny, at another site where I post, the Republicons have their hair follicles in a dither over Edward’s haircuts, scads of articles and scathing commentaries. As if he should be getting the $10 corner barbershop cuts like their husbands. Pretty funny reading. I think Edwards scares the Republicons silly, so they’re clutching & grasping at any straw! Perhaps some fear that Edwards might attract over a bunch of their OWN moderates who can’t stand all the wife/mistress switching dudes the Republican party has to offer.

  46. 60

    Mark The Redneck KENNEDY spews:

    Lib – You and I on the same side here. “Invisible hand” does pretty good job takin’ care of things.

    I’m just wondering why that fucking Liar Cantwell isn’t showing up at gas stations to demonize oil companies for their “obscene profits”. She did that before she hoodwinked the moonbats in Seattle to reelect her. She been sorta quiet since.

    Clearly the market fears moonbats currently in charge, especially the vaginocracy that seems to be gaining traction now. Wreck the economy and invite terror attacks…this oughta be good…

  47. 61

    RightEqualsStupid spews:

    The Stock Market has hit a new high under Democratic leadership AGAIN. No wonder polls show people prefer Dems to Publicans almost three to one right now.

  48. 62

    Jenna Bush spews:

    MTRK @ 60, You’re sayinbg “leave the economy alone” means the same thing as when Daddy says, “Grab ebverything you can, stuff your pockets full, lie about it all, and kill a bunch of guys so dumb they joined the Army”?