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Poll Analysis: A not-so-good week for Romeny

by Darryl — Thursday, 9/20/12, 7:00 pm


Obama Romney
100.0% probability of winning 0.0% probability of winning
Mean of 336 electoral votes Mean of 202 electoral votes

My previous Monte Carlo analysis, conducted one week ago, showed President Barack Obama leading Governor Mitt Romney by (on average) 306 to 232 electoral votes. If the election had been held last week, the analysis suggested that Obama would win with a 97.9% probability.

I guess I waited too long to do a new analysis, because the past week has brought us 47 new polls (plus a poll that breaks out Maine’s two congressional districts):

start end sample % % %
st poll date date size MOE O R diff
CA Field Poll 06-Sep 17-Sep 891 3.4 58 34 O+24
CO Rasmussen 17-Sep 17-Sep 500 4.5 45 47 R+2
CO Quinnipiac 11-Sep 17-Sep 1497 3.0 48 47 O+1
CO ARG 10-Sep 12-Sep 600 4.0 49 47 O+2
CO SurveyUSA 09-Sep 12-Sep 615 4.0 47 46 O+1
CT U CT 11-Sep 16-Sep 508 4.4 53 32 O+21
FL WeAskAmerica 18-Sep 18-Sep 1230 2.8 49.1 45.5 O+3.6
FL FOX News 16-Sep 18-Sep 829 3.0 49 44 O+5
FL Gravis Marketing 15-Sep 16-Sep 1728 2.5 47.1 47.7 R+0.6
IA Rasmussen 19-Sep 19-Sep 500 4.5 44 47 R+3
KY SurveyUSA 11-Sep 13-Sep 606 4.1 39 53 R+14
ME PPP 17-Sep 18-Sep 804 3.5 55 39 O+16
ME Maine PRC 15-Sep 17-Sep 856 3.4 53.5 37.3 O+16.2
ME1 Maine PRC 15-Sep 17-Sep 445 — 58.7 33.9 O+24.8
ME2 Maine PRC 15-Sep 17-Sep 410 — 47.8 41.0 O+6.8
MA WBUR 15-Sep 17-Sep 507 4.4 59 31 O+28
MA UMass-Lowell 13-Sep 17-Sep 497 5.5 59 36 O+23
MA Suffolk 13-Sep 16-Sep 600 4.0 63.5 30.5 O+33.0
MA PPP 13-Sep 16-Sep 876 3.3 57 39 O+18
MA WNEU 06-Sep 13-Sep 444 4.6 60 38 O+22
MI Detroit News 15-Sep 17-Sep 600 4.0 52.0 37.8 O+14.2
MI CNN 14-Sep 18-Sep 754 3.5 52 44 O+8
MI MRG 10-Sep 15-Sep 600 4.0 47.5 42.3 O+5.2
MI Baydoun 12-Sep 12-Sep 1156 2.9 45.5 43.7 O+1.8
NV Rasmussen 18-Sep 18-Sep 500 4.5 47 45 O+2
NV CNN 14-Sep 18-Sep 741 3.5 49 46 O+3
NH Rasmussen 18-Sep 18-Sep 500 4.5 45 48 R+3
NH ARG 15-Sep 17-Sep 463 4.5 48 47 O+1
NJ Philadelphia Inquirer 09-Sep 12-Sep 600 4.0 51 37 O+14
NJ Fairleigh Dickinson 06-Sep 12-Sep 706 3.8 52 38 O+14
NC Rasmussen 13-Sep 13-Sep 500 4.5 45 51 R+6
OH Rasmussen 12-Sep 12-Sep 500 4.5 47 46 O+1
OH ARG 10-Sep 12-Sep 600 4.0 48 47 O+1
OR SurveyUSA 10-Sep 13-Sep 552 4.3 49.5 40.7 O+8.9
PA WeAskAmerica 18-Sep 18-Sep 1214 2.9 48.1 42.2 O+5.9
PA Muhlenberg 10-Sep 16-Sep 640 4.0 50 41 O+9
PA Philadelphia Inquirer 09-Sep 12-Sep 600 4.0 50 39 O+11
VA FOX News 16-Sep 18-Sep 1006 3.0 50 43 O+7
VA WeAskAmerica 17-Sep 17-Sep 1238 2.8 48.5 45.7 O+2.8
VA PPP 13-Sep 16-Sep 1021 3.1 51 46 O+5
VA Quinnipiac 11-Sep 17-Sep 1474 3.0 50 46 O+4
VA WA Post 12-Sep 16-Sep 847 4.0 52 44 O+8
VA Rasmussen 13-Sep 13-Sep 500 4.5 49 48 O+1
WA Elway 09-Sep 12-Sep 405 5.0 53 36 O+17
WA SurveyUSA 07-Sep 09-Sep 524 4.4 54.4 37.6 O+16.8
WI PPP 18-Sep 19-Sep 842 3.4 52 45 O+7
WI Rasmussen 17-Sep 17-Sep 500 4.5 49 46 O+3
WI Marquette 13-Sep 16-Sep 601 4.1 54 40 O+14
WI Quinnipiac 11-Sep 17-Sep 1485 3.0 51 45 O+6

I’ll just comment briefly on some states. Overall, the week’s polling looks very good for Obama, but with a couple of minor exceptions.

Obama takes three of four Colorado polls. This suggests a slight but real lead in the state. The Monte Carlo analysis gave Obama an 84% probability of winning based on the seven current polls.

Obama comes out on top in Florida. He has led in seven of the eleven polls taken over the past month.

Iowa is one of the few bright spots for Romney. He leads Obama by +3% in this week’s poll. But Obama leads in the other current poll, and overall has a very slight edge.

Romney looks destined to loose his boyhood home state of Michigan that gives Obama leads in four polls ranging from +2% to +14%.

Nevada is looking blue, but not by much. Combined with one other poll from the past month, the analysis gives Obama an 81% probability of taking the state.

Romney is up by +3% in one poll and down by -1% in another in New Hampshire. Combined with one other current poll Obama gets a 63% probability of winning now.

The other bit of good news for Romney is the most recent North Carolina poll that has Romney leading Obama by a modest +6%. Romney now leads in five of eight current polls and must be considered the leader in the state. A turn-around for Romney can be discerned from the last 6 months of polling:

ObamaRomney20Aug12-20Sep12North Carolina

There are three new Ohio polls, but I accidentally left the new FOX News poll out for this analysis. Even without that +7% for Obama, the two new polls give Obama a slight lead. Romney has only led in one of the seven current polls, and Obama would be expected to win the state now with a 90% probability. (The FOX News poll will be in the next analysis.)

We finally get a new poll in Oregon, and Obama is still up by something over 8%.

Pennsylvania is still looking blue. The past past month of polling has Obama winning an election now with certainty.

Six new polls in Virginia all go pretty convincingly for Obama. The polling history over six months completes the story…whatever advantage Romney had in the state a few weeks ago was transient:
ObamaRomney20Aug12-20Sep12Virginia

It doesn’t look like Ryan will be delivering Wisconsin to Romney. The four new polls range from +3% to +14% for Obama. If anything, the selection of Ryan has moved the state further into Obama’s column:

ObamaRomney20Aug12-20Sep12Wisconsin

Now, after a Monte Carlo analysis employing 100,000 simulated elections, Obama wins 99,975 times and Romney wins 25 times. Obama receives (on average) 336 to Romney’s 202 electoral votes. The analysis suggests that, in an election right now, Obama would have very nearly a 100.0% probability of defeating Romney.

The long term trends in this race can be seen from a series of elections simulated every seven days using polls from 20 Sep 2011 to 20 Sep 2012, and including polls from the preceding month (FAQ). Obama is performing near his peak for the election season.

Electoral College Map

Alabama Alaska Arizona Arkansas California Colorado Connecticut Delaware Florida Georgia Hawaii Idaho Illinois Indiana Iowa Kansas Kentucky Lousiana Maine Maryland Massachusettes Michigan Minnesota Mississippi Missouri Montana Nebraska Nevada New Hampshire New Jersey New Mexico New York North Carolina North Dakota Ohio Oklahoma Oregon Pennsylvania Rhode Island South Carolina South Dakota Tennessee Texas Utah Vermont Virginia D.C. Washington West Virginia Wisconsin Wyoming

Electoral College Map

Georgia Alaska Arizona Arkansas California Colorado Delaware Connecticut Florida Mississippi Alabama Hawaii Idaho Illinois Indiana Iowa Kansas Kentucky Louisiana Maine Maryland Massachusetts Michigan Minnesota Missouri Montana Nebraska Nevada New Hampshire New Jersey New Mexico New York North Carolina North Dakota Ohio Oklahoma Oregon Pennsylvania Rhode Island South Carolina South Dakota Tennessee Texas Utah Vermont Virginia D.C. Washington West Virginia Wisconsin Wyoming

Here is the distribution of electoral votes [FAQ] from the simulations:

Ten most probable electoral vote outcomes for Obama:

  • 344 electoral votes with a 5.13% probability
  • 339 electoral votes with a 4.22% probability
  • 338 electoral votes with a 4.13% probability
  • 345 electoral votes with a 3.83% probability
  • 340 electoral votes with a 3.77% probability
  • 341 electoral votes with a 3.16% probability
  • 334 electoral votes with a 3.05% probability
  • 335 electoral votes with a 2.93% probability
  • 332 electoral votes with a 2.49% probability
  • 336 electoral votes with a 2.23% probability

After 100,000 simulations:

  • Obama wins 100.0%, Romney wins 0.0%.
  • Average (SE) EC votes for Obama: 336.2 (16.4)
  • Average (SE) EC votes for Romney: 201.8 (16.4)
  • Median (95% CI) EC votes for Obama: 338 (299, 365)
  • Median (95% CI) EC votes for Romney: 200 (173, 239)

Each column of this table shows the electoral vote total aggregated by different criteria for the probability of winning a state (Safe=100%, Strong=90%+, Leans=60%+, Weak=50%+):

Threshold Safe + Strong + Leans + Weak
Safe Obama 198
Strong Obama 64 262
Leans Obama 76 76 338
Weak Obama 6 6 6 344
Weak Romney 1 1 1 194
Leans Romney 20 20 193
Strong Romney 129 173
Safe Romney 44

This table summarizes results by state. Click on the poll count to see the individual polls included for the state.

0 0 EC # Total % % Obama Romney
8 4 Votes polls Votes Obama Romney % wins % wins
AL 9 1* 558 36.6 63.4 0.0 100.0
AK 3 0* (0) (100)
AZ 11 1 963 45.4 54.6 2.2 97.8
AR 6 1* 679 36.8 63.2 0.0 100.0
CA 55 2 1304 62.7 37.3 100.0 0.0
CO 9 7 4908 51.0 49.0 83.8 16.2
CT 7 4 3148 55.8 44.2 100.0 0.0
DE 3 0 (100) (0)
DC 3 1* 94 88.3 11.7 100.0 0.0
FL 29 11 10318 50.7 49.3 85.6 14.4
GA 16 1* 1054 48.4 51.6 23.0 77.0
HI 4 1* 517 64.8 35.2 100.0 0.0
ID 4 0* (0) (100)
IL 20 2 2277 58.8 41.2 100.0 0.0
IN 11 1* 344 40.7 59.3 0.8 99.2
IA 6 2 1600 50.3 49.7 55.4 44.6
KS 6 1* 442 45.0 55.0 7.3 92.7
KY 8 1 557 42.4 57.6 0.6 99.4
LA 8 1* 542 41.1 58.9 0.3 99.7
ME 2 2 1533 58.7 41.3 100.0 0.0
ME1 1 1 412 63.3 36.7 99.9 0.1
ME2 1 1 364 53.8 46.2 85.4 14.6
MD 10 1* 792 62.4 37.6 100.0 0.0
MA 11 5 2768 62.8 37.2 100.0 0.0
MI 16 8 6619 52.7 47.3 100.0 0.0
MN 10 2 1278 54.2 45.8 98.7 1.3
MS 6 1* 717 40.0 60.0 0.0 100.0
MO 10 5 2565 46.5 53.5 0.5 99.5
MT 3 2 1088 44.6 55.4 0.7 99.3
NE 2 1* 553 43.4 56.6 1.3 98.7
NE1 1 1* 389 45.5 54.5 10.6 89.4
NE2 1 1* 252 49.6 50.4 45.6 54.4
NE3 1 1* 284 35.9 64.1 0.0 100.0
NV 6 3 1971 51.4 48.6 80.9 19.1
NH 4 3 1408 50.6 49.4 63.1 36.9
NJ 14 4 3185 56.0 44.0 100.0 0.0
NM 5 3 2083 55.4 44.6 100.0 0.0
NY 29 1 1426 64.6 35.4 100.0 0.0
NC 15 8 5642 48.8 51.2 9.7 90.3
ND 3 1 918 53.8 46.2 94.8 5.2
OH 18 7 7196 51.1 48.9 89.7 10.3
OK 7 1* 431 33.4 66.6 0.0 100.0
OR 7 1 499 54.9 45.1 94.3 5.7
PA 20 5 3147 54.6 45.4 100.0 0.0
RI 4 1* 495 59.4 40.6 99.9 0.1
SC 9 1* 1833 51.7 48.3 85.1 14.9
SD 3 1* 497 46.1 53.9 10.4 89.6
TN 11 1* 654 46.0 54.0 7.7 92.3
TX 38 1 950 42.1 57.9 0.0 100.0
UT 6 1* 1149 27.7 72.3 0.0 100.0
VT 3 1* 415 71.3 28.7 100.0 0.0
VA 13 9 9293 51.2 48.8 94.1 5.9
WA 12 4 1859 58.3 41.7 100.0 0.0
WV 5 1 361 42.1 57.9 1.6 98.4
WI 10 4 3282 53.8 46.2 99.9 0.1
WY 3 0 (0) (100)

* An older poll was used (i.e. no recent polls exist).

Details of the methods are given in the FAQ.

The most recent analysis in this match-up can be found from this page.

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  1. 1

    MikeBoyScout spews:

    Thursday, 9/20/12 at 8:22 pm

    Yep, 0% chance of Gekko/Galt winning sounds right.

    Gekko/Galt is the anvil
    We are the HAMMER!

    Hammer it home

  2. 2

    Liberal Scientist is a Dirty Fucking Socialist Hippie spews:

    Thursday, 9/20/12 at 9:25 pm

    But…but…BUT!!! THEY’RE ALL OVERSAMPLING DEMOCRAPTS!!!1

    (Primal scream time)

  3. 3

    Cornflake, the conservative cereal spews:

    Thursday, 9/20/12 at 9:41 pm

    But…but…BUT!!! THEY’RE ALL OVERSAMPLING DEMOCRAPTS!!!1

    But…but…BUT!!! Maybe the samples are accurate.
    But…but…BUT!!! Maybe the Rethug party is shrinking.

  4. 4

    czechsaaz spews:

    Thursday, 9/20/12 at 9:56 pm

    Honestly, of all the happy things that happened this week, and there were many, my favorite is the one that has to piss off conservatives more than any other. It was just a little smirk and so much truth. Devastating to the conservative psyche for the simplicity:

    “Oh, Mitt Romney is not going to be president of the United States, I think everybody knows that.” Nancy Pelosi.

  5. 5

    Globalrower spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 2:29 am

    It may be early to savor the schadenfreude, but it sure smells good!

  6. 6

    RMONEY HAS A BAD WEAK :) spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 3:24 am

    RMONEY IS HAVING A BAD WEAK :)

  7. 7

    MikeBoyScout spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 5:40 am

    Well, let’s not get too excited.
    After all, Slick Willard is a very experienced executive with lots of business experience in turning things around.
    No doubt he’ll take action with his under-performing staff to turn this thing around. Hell, he’s a turnaround expert.

    Wait. What????


    Mitt Romney’s campaign took out a $20 million loan in August and ended the month with $38 million less in the bank than President Barack Obama.

    At the same time, the campaign gave out about $200,000 in bonuses to senior employees just after the Republican National Convention, which ended with the candidate not getting much of a bounce in the polls.

    Yep, Slick Willard is a proven leader of Jack Shit.

    Gekko/Galt is the anvil
    We are the HAMMER!

    Hammer it home

  8. 8

    MikeBoyScout spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 6:53 am

    Remember the genius leadership move of Slick Willard selecting House Republican Leader, Paul Lyin’ Ryan from Wisconsin in the dead of night on a Friday and announcing him at the crack of dawn on a Saturday morning?

    Surely with Lyin’ Ryan on the ticket Wisconsin is in play for Gekko/Galt?

    NBC/Marist: Obama Leads Romney By 5 In Wisconsin

    Ok, that’s no surprise. But it brings benefits.
    “Tommy Thompson said Wednesday that Mitt Romney is dragging him down in his Senate race against Rep. Tammy Baldwin.”

    Gekko/Galt is the anvil
    We are the HAMMER!

    Hammer it home

  9. 9

    Liberal Scientist is a Dirty Fucking Socialist Hippie spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 7:11 am

    This would be funny if it weren’t so, um, accurate.

    SNL spoof on Fox and friends, including newly discovered film clips of Willard in various candid scenarios.

    One of their punch lines, Willard singing in shower…

    “Oh, poor people hate having jobs … the only thing poor people hate more than condoms is waking up and going to a job.”

    …is, I believe, something I’ve read verbatim over at SoundPolitics. Or was it our own Cap’n Crunch?

  10. 10

    Cornflake, the conservative cereal spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 7:17 am

    Mitt’s campaign can be summed up with two words:

    Cascade Failure

  11. 11

    MikeBoyScout spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 7:34 am

    @9, We can’t depend upon Republicans to wake up and suddenly realize that their political philosophy and policies are demonstrably bankrupt and destructive to the American people and our American ideals.

    We have an advantage at the moment because Romney has publicly aired his and his party’s principles of craven selfishness.
    It is up to US to ensure we push this advantage to the limit and win; win BIG. Win the Senate races. Win the House races. Win the gubernatorial races. The county, city and school board races.

    Gekko/Galt is the anvil
    We are the HAMMER!

    Hammer it home

  12. 12

    wharfrat spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 7:35 am

    I’m not sure if I am a pessimistic cynic or a cynical pessimist. Rmoney has a good chance of pulling it off as we do not have a good handle on voter suppression efforts in swing states, especially Ohio. I don’t think that Obama will blow any debate to the extent that Mittens could but they could be factors. It will not take much to move the election one way or the other. Add to that our chances of losing a couple of Senate seats and we are in, at best, for two more years of stalemate. Worst I have to see all those happy face McMorris-Rodgers signs on the drive home. At least they aren’t pink.

  13. 13

    Liberal Scientist is a Dirty Fucking Socialist Hippie spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 7:38 am

    Even the credits are good in this cartoon…

    “…and quotes attributed to God provided by deceitful humans…”

  14. 14

    MikeBoyScout spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 7:49 am

    @12 wharfrat,

    Stop worrying about how to classify your feelings and work harder for the win.
    Knowing it ain’t over til it is over is simply being pragmatic. Knowing we need to finish this thing and knowing what is at stake I hope motivates you.

    Gekko/Galt is the anvil
    We are the HAMMER!

    Hammer it home

  15. 15

    Cornflake, the conservative cereal spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 8:33 am

    Ann Romney:
    “This is hard and, you know, it’s an important thing that we’re doing right now and it’s an important election and it is time for all Americans to realize how significant this election is and how lucky we are to have someone with Mitt’s qualifications and experience and know-how to be able to have the opportunity to run this country.”

    It looks to me that Mitt’s qualifications and experience and know-how is telling him to hide behind his wife’s skirts.

  16. 16

    Serial Conservative spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 8:44 am

    I have two questions about the Univision interviews:

    1. Romney apparently called illegal aliens ‘illegal aliens’ when he was interviewed on Wednesday. Why no orchestrated outrage on the part of the Dems over this description?

    2. Obama was hit pretty hard by the Univision interviewer. Harder than I’ve seen him hit by just about anyone other than Chris Wallace. What do people think about his responses and will he be hurt by them?

  17. 17

    Serial Conservative spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 8:51 am

    According to Jay Carney it’s self-evident (to everyone but Lib Despair, that is) that Benghazi was a terrorist attack on the US. Obama’s still maintaining the spin that the movie had something to do with it but CBS reported yesterday that there was no protest before the attack, so Obama probably won’t be keeping that up for very long.

    World’s Obama fever cools

    But the latest TV images from abroad are far more ominous: mobs in the Muslim world besieging U.S. embassies, torching American flags and even burning Obama himself in effigy.
    The two sets of images show a gap between aspirations and reality: A president who is popular overseas has not managed to radically transform America’s standing in the world through the illuminating force of his biography or personality.

    Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/s.....z277U9LYcy

    As it becomes increasingly self-evident (to everyone but Lib Despair, that is) that Obama’s State Department permitted and in fact prescribed such lax security that a planned Al Queda attack on US soil on the anniversary of 9/11 resulted in the death of Americans, including one of our diplomats, Obama’s foreign policy status will take a serious hit.

    I’m guessing that at least one of the debates will center on foreign policy.

    And so it should.

  18. 18

    No Time for Fascists spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 8:51 am

    @16
    Illegal aliens = Why are you trying to instigate trouble?
    I don’t know, maybe it’s because that’s what they are?

  19. 19

    No Time for Fascists spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 8:54 am

    @15. Did you hear Queen Anne speak? The tone and inflection were very insightful. She sounded furious that “you people” were questioning her and mitt. The controlled rage. Talk about a sense of entitlement.

  20. 20

    Serial Conservative spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 8:59 am

    You know, for a guy who supposedly is consolidating his Electoral College lead, shouldn’t he be doing so at the same time he’s consolidating his job approval?

    “Obama’s approval rating is down to just 46 percent, down from a high of 52 percent after the Democratic National Convention. His disapproval rating, meanwhile, now stands at 48 percent, up from 42 percent after the DNC. Altogether, that’s a 12-point swing in two weeks.”

    Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com.....z277WAUxXH

    Instead his approval is sinking significantly, and I don’t think Benghazi nor his comment that he can’t change Washington from the inside is going to help him much.

    Iowa is Romney’s for the taking, CO and NV aren’t solid, and even WI is looking less than robustly in the Obama column. NH is pretty close to a tie.

    I wish Romney were ahead rather than behind right now, but Romney could be doing far worse, and Obama should be doing far better.

    I don’t even care that South Carolina is going to cast its electoral votes for Obama this year.

  21. 21

    No Time for Fascists spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 9:00 am

    On the AM radio

    On the THREE Conservative talk shows:
    1) One was yammering that Social Security was a Welfare program so we should be able to cut it.
    2) Obama is a bad person because he once talked to Bill Ayers, Rev Wright and…. LABOR UNIONS.
    3) The host was whining that Facebook rejected his ad because it had the word “Hate” in it and people complained. He didn’t say it but he kept hinting that there should be a mechanism that made the company take his ad.

    On the one lone Liberal talk show, they were talking about the mitt campaign being negative and the Obama campaign being positive.

  22. 22

    No Time for Fascists spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 9:01 am

    I wish Romney were ahead rather than behind right now
    You could help us, list 5 things Romney is planning to do,that will help the middle class.

  23. 23

    YLB spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 9:01 am

    17 – How many people on Bush’s watch died at u.s. diplomatic missions?

    I can think of almost 3000 people who died at non-diplomatic “mission” of sorts in NYC on Bush’s watch..

    Why wasn’t didn’t that konservative better protect our people? Oh yeah he was too busy reading “my pet goat” after a month long vacation where he ignored yet another warning in a series of warnings about an impending terrorist attack.

  24. 24

    Cornflake, the conservative cereal spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 9:09 am

    Sept. 20: Obama’s Convention Bounce May Not Be Receding
    By NATE SILVER @538

    President Obama’s position inched forward in the FiveThirtyEight forecast on Thursday. His chances of winning the Electoral College are 76.1 percent, according to the forecast, up from 75.2 percent on Wednesday. Mr. Obama’s projected margin of victory in the national popular vote also increased slightly, to 3.4 percentage points.

  25. 25

    Cornflake, the conservative cereal spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 9:20 am

    19. No Time for Fascists spews:

    @15. Did you hear Queen Anne speak? The tone and inflection were very insightful. She sounded furious that “you people” were questioning her and mitt. The controlled rage. Talk about a sense of entitlement.

    Only thing missing was her stamping her feet in anger.

  26. 26

    Serial Conservative spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 9:21 am

    @ 23

    1. GWB43 is not one of the candidates for president this year.

    2. Why not just point out that we lost more guys at Pearl Harbor in 1941 than we lost last week in Benghazi, while you’re at it? Your willingness to pass off current mistakes because mistakes have been made previously does not erase the fact that last week’s attack was foreseeable and we could have had our guys properly protected. You don’t help yourself by comparing current unpreparedness to past unpreparedness, YLB. We’re supposed to learn from past mistakes, not repeat them.

  27. 27

    Cornflake, the conservative cereal spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 9:26 am

    Early voting starts today in Virginia.

  28. 28

    Cornflake, the conservative cereal spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 9:36 am

    does not erase the fact that last week’s attack was foreseeable and we could have had our guys properly protected.

    So what would have been proper protection against heavy machine guns, mortars, and RPGs?

    Foreseeable attack? What specific actionable intelligence did Obama have presented to him?

  29. 29

    Rael spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 9:40 am

    Conservative trolls:

    Romney is doomed.

    You know it.

    Give up.

  30. 30

    Michael spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 9:41 am

    @26
    Checkout the list:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L....._Americans

    You seem to be claiming that Obama should be able to do what no other president has been able to do. That’s a pretty tall order.

    And Btw, according to my morning paper the people who carried out the attack have already started to be arrested.

  31. 31

    Serial Conservative spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 9:44 am

    @ 28

    So what would have been proper protection against heavy machine guns, mortars, and RPGs?

    How about removing the ambassador for the period prior to and following 9/11? Egypt’s ambassador wasn’t in Egypt on that day.

    Foreseeable attack? What specific actionable intelligence did Obama have presented to him?

    Obama specifically? Dunno. Although since he wasn’t attending his Intel briefings maybe he didn’t know, either. I do know that Zawahiri released a video or other statement encouraging Libyans to attack Americans to avenge a drone strike. You know that as well, it’s been reported and not denied.

    I also know that the same compound had been hit in June, and a British diplomatic convoy had been hit later in the summer.

    We all know to be a little more vigilant around 9/11. We know that terrorists like anniversary dates. (The 3/11 strike was 911 days after 9/11/2001, for instance.)

  32. 32

    Serial Conservative spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 9:49 am

    @ 30

    Noted but off-point.

    Stevens had virtually no protection. A British firm without bullets in their guns. The two ex-SEAL guys who died were in a different building than Stevens was in and therefore were not protecting him. They weren’t there to protect him and they didn’t die while trying to protect him.

    I do not disagree that diplomacy sometimes is a dangerous profession. I do not believe that means that you provide your diplomats no real protection. Particularly if it’s 9/11 and they’re in a site that had been attacked only three months earlier.

    You all seem to be working very hard to avoid dealing with the fact that our guy had virtually no protection on the one calendar date of the year that it would seem most obvious that protection might be needed, in a country upon which American forced dropped bombs only one year before, in a country that had murdered its own leader only one year before.

  33. 33

    czechsaaz spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 9:56 am

    Shorter Warren/Brown debate

    “I don’t think we should be subsidizing multi-national oil companies posting the largest profits in the history of the world with tax cuts that you voted for.”

    “You’re not an Indian.”

    “I will not be a vote to block jobs bills just because my party wants me to.”

    “I don’t think you earned a job at Harvard.”

    “I don’t think companies should be able to decide what medical conditions they won’t cover in their health plans.”

    “I think you are overpaid at Harvard and that’s driving up tuition an our public universities.”

  34. 34

    Serial Conservative spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 10:03 am

    Even shorter Warren/Brown debate, from noted liberal:

    I thought Brown won narrowly.

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/a.....ebate.html

  35. 35

    Rael spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 10:12 am

    Soon we’ll see Obama take time out from his own campaign to help key Democratic Senate & Congress candidates.

  36. 36

    Rael spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 10:13 am

    … like Warren, for example …

  37. 37

    Puddybud spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 10:16 am

    Obummer’s sadministration sends Susan Rice to lie on all the Sunday shows. Wednesday we learn they had intel saying 9/11 was going a bad day. Yesterday Jay Carneybarker farted this…

    “It is, I think, self-evident that what happened in Benghazi was a terrorist attack. Our embassy was attacked violently and the result was four deaths of American officials – that’s self-evident,” he told reporters in a gaggle on Air Force One.

    Yet earlier the same Carneybarker said this!

    And this is so great from CBS News…

    “that the public won’t get a detailed account of what happened until after the election.”

    Because the slobbering libtard head up Obummer’s ASS media won’t purposely pursue the truth!

  38. 38

    Rael spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 10:16 am

    Too soon to tell, but it’s starting to look like 2008 all over again.

  39. 39

    MikeBoyScout spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 10:17 am

    Kornflake,

    Stop yapping and start doing.
    I get the impression you see yourself as not a moocher but a high income wealth creator.

    Go give $10k to http://www.uso.org/ and do something.

    I’d ask that you march in to a recruiter’s office, but I seem to remember that’s always been a sacrifice you were unwilling to make.

  40. 40

    Serial Conservative spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 10:17 am

    @ 38

    I’d love an explanation of that comment.

  41. 41

    Serial Conservative spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 10:19 am

    @ 39

    Wife and I made a 10-year commitment to a Land Trust organization to help them acquire a very large parcel to permanently protect. In addition to the food bank at her church and various medical and animal welfare entities, we’re good.

    Thanks for the suggestion, tho.

  42. 42

    Serial Conservative spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 10:21 am

    Reuters pointing out the obvious (to everyone but Lib Despair, that is):

    The Libyan owners of the main villa rented by the diplomats was surprised at how little, beyond some barbed wire and security cameras, they added to the walled residential compound, on a quiet street where volatile militiamen were free to roam.
    Most striking was the absence of a second line of defense inside the main gate on to the street; that left the few guards in the compound little chance of holding off a crowd once the gate, which showed no sign it had been forced, was swung open.

    http://news.yahoo.com/libya-co.....41257.html

    If you read carefully you’ll see that the eventual plan is to blame the dead guy.

    Gotta protect Hillary’s chances in 2016, after all.

  43. 43

    greg spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 10:21 am

    @20 President Obama 72% Romney 28% on the Intrade money market today. that makes 17 of 17 political money markets with cash on the line long on Mitt.

    http://www.oddschecker.com/spe.....ion/winner

  44. 44

    Michael spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 10:22 am

    @32
    I think it was a huge screwup and I want to get to the bottom of why it happened and to see changes made and if applicable see people fired. What I don’t want to see is people running around like chickens with their heads cut off, screaming that it was an act of war, and calling for vengeance. You can’t do that first bit I want to see done while also doing that last bit. Right now the right is doing that last bit. They’ve made up shit, gotten the timeline of events wrong, called it an act of war, wanted to go in guns blazing.

    You’re mistaking the pushback against the crazy shit and wanting a rational response for “working very hard to avoid dealing with the fact that our guy had virtually no protection.”

  45. 45

    Serial Conservative spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 10:26 am

    @ 44

    Go back a couple of days on HA and you’ll find Lib Despair maintaining it was the video and it wasn’t pre-planned.

    Regarding:

    wanted to go in guns blazing.

    please tell me what you mean. I haven’t seen that at all in what I’ve read, if you mean establishing some sort of post-attack military presence.

    Unless you are referring to a response during the attack itself, to which I would say that if we had guys actively being attacked, yeah, I’d want to go in and defend them rather than letting them die, as well.

  46. 46

    Puddybud spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 10:36 am

    Go back a couple of days on HA and you’ll find Lib Despair maintaining it was the video and it wasn’t pre-planned.

    More than a couple of days… Lib da dunce been crying that horse manure for a week!

  47. 47

    Puddybud spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 10:37 am

    Too soon to tell but it could be 2000 all over again. Carter had a much larger lead on Reagan before the debates.

  48. 48

    mem1 spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 10:47 am

    @47,

    Just keep sucking that shit spuddy.

  49. 49

    Serial Conservative spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 11:00 am

    @ 30

    And Btw, according to my morning paper the people who carried out the attack have already started to be arrested.

    You’ll excuse me if I don’t hold my breath waiting for the killers to be brought to justice:

    Libyan Official: ‘We Don’t Have Enough Power’ To Catch US Ambassador’s Killers

    WASHINGTON (CBSDC) — A Libyan official admitted they will most likely not be able to find the killers behind the deadly attack at the U.S. consulate in Benghazi last week.

    Interior Ministry spokesman Izzedine Fezzen told CBS News that Libya just doesn’t have the “power” to find the attackers who killed Ambassador Christopher Stevens and three other Americans.

    “We don’t have enough power to catch them,” Fezzen said.

    http://washington.cbslocal.com.....s-killers/

    I don’t read the morning paper much, anymore. This is one good reason why.

    Another reason:

    WASHINGTON, D.C. — Americans’ distrust in the media hit a new high this year, with 60% saying they have little or no trust in the mass media to report the news fully, accurately, and fairly. Distrust is up from the past few years, when Americans were already more negative about the media than they had been in years prior to 2004.

    http://www.gallup.com/poll/157.....-high.aspx

  50. 50

    Cornflake, the conservative cereal spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 11:04 am

    31. Serial Conservative spews:

    Foreseeable attack? …

    Obama specifically? Dunno. Although since he wasn’t attending his Intel briefings maybe he didn’t know, either.

    And Obama reads the Presidential Daily Briefing instead, which GW43 ignored.

  51. 51

    Cornflake, the conservative cereal spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 11:07 am

    49. Serial Conservative spews:

    @ 30

    And Btw, according to my morning paper the people who carried out the attack have already started to be arrested.

    You’ll excuse me if I don’t hold my breath waiting for the killers to be brought to justice:

    I can understand your feeling that way.
    Look how long it took for GW43 to track down and kill OBL.

  52. 52

    Serial Conservative spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 11:08 am

    @ 50

    And Obama reads the Presidential Daily Briefing instead, which GW43 ignored.

    Obama reads his iPad daily. For all we know he’s on the PGA web site.

    Events of the past week have shamed him into resuming his daily face-to-face intel briefing, which I assume will last until November 7th after which it will again be jettisoned, regardless of the election outcome.

  53. 53

    Cornflake, the conservative cereal spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 11:10 am

    But don’t worry Bob, the post Retard Convention bounce should start bouncing any day now.

    Too bad God’s Laughter took out the first day of the Retard Convention.

  54. 54

    Serial Conservative spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 11:10 am

    And speaking of PGA, anyone hear that Team Obama is feeling the heat from the jokes the GOP is cracking about his (excessive) golfing, and is using a front to try to get them to stop?

    Lobbyist close to White House behind effort of golfers to quell jokes about Obama
    Published: 11:20 PM 09/20/2012

    Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/09.....z2784GFcHi

  55. 55

    czechsaaz spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 11:34 am

    @37

    Piddles, your head is going to explode. You typed up more blather about the media not covering but you quoted CBS News.

    So, CBS News isn’t the media? That 9 minute MSNBC clip I pointed you at isn’t the media?

    BTW, that’s interesting spin by CBS. They said that the state department is required by law to investigate and provide a report to Congress within sixty days. Sixty days would be post election but there is nothing in the law that says the report can’t come early. I’ll agree with you all that this report probably won’t be early for political reasons but CBS certainly editorialized the last sentence of the report. Librul media indeed.

  56. 56

    Puddybud spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 11:49 am

    And Obama reads the Presidential Daily Briefing instead, which GW43 ignored.

    Bwaaaa haaaaa haaaaa haaaa haaaa. This document sez otherwise on Obummer. Have the buttspigot play the relevant parts from a previous PuddyMissive on HA!

  57. 57

    Puddybud spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 11:49 am

    I can think of almost 3000 people who died at non-diplomatic “mission” of sorts in NYC on Bush’s watch..

    Really ylbuttspigot? You forget Clinton and his gang never got terraists out after they overstayed their visas in 1999 and 2000. Oh yeah let’s forget that right buttspigot?

  58. 58

    Puddybud spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 11:52 am

    Piddles, your head is going to explode

    Projecting agan checksez? A Psych 101 Thing?

    That 9 minute MSNBC clip I pointed you at isn’t the media?

    Ummm nope they aren’t. They don’t give a fair shake to conservatives and admitted such earlier in the week. Puddy posted it. Contact the HA buttspigot!

  59. 59

    MikeBoyScout spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 11:53 am

    Proposer of privatizing Social Security and turning Medicare into Vouchercare, Paul Lyin’ Ryan, the intellectual leader of the Republican Party and Slick Willard’s ‘popular choice’ as his VP nominee wowed them at the AARP convention today

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?f.....9c-j2AZPoM

    At this point, Gekko/Galt better stop worrying about winning the election and start worrying about getting lynched by their “supporters”.

    Gekko/Galt is the anvil
    We are the HAMMER!

    Hammer it home

  60. 60

    Serial Conservative spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 11:53 am

    OK I admit it.

    http://www.buzzfeed.com/dorsey.....penis-joke

    I’m going to miss her.

  61. 61

    czechsaaz spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 12:09 pm

    The world according to Puddy.

    Any media that I think is insufficiently conservative is not media. I reserve the right to directly quote not media sources to back my worldview but remember, they are not real media. You must accept that not media are authoritative sources when the great Puddy quotes it or links to not media but in all other instances they at not media.

  62. 62

    czechsaaz spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 12:11 pm

    @60

    You’ll get her for at least four more years, “Everybody knows that” since the media is in the tank. You might even get her for twelve.

  63. 63

    MikeBoyScout spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 12:16 pm

    To our pathetic yet prolific trolls:

    I’m really going to enjoy your cognitive dissonance over the next 46 days.

    Please, keep telling us how Gekko/Galt is going to win with hilarious analogies to Jimmy Carter (the grandfather of the man who put the nail in Slick Willard’s and the Republican party 2012 coffin) and snide remarks about the Obama/Biden family.

    Reading you is like watching Sideshow Bob!

    Gekko/Galt is the anvil
    We are the HAMMER!

    Hammer it home

  64. 64

    Steve spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 12:20 pm

    All this whining from internet wingnut warriors about embassy protection. Yeah, the wingnuts are great at embassy protection, no doubt.

    Starting with the Reagan administration there’s the 1983 bombing in Beirut. You’d think a US intervention in the Lebanese civil war might have been a heads up, but not for Ronald Reagan. And it’s not like the history books tell us the that he responded by glassifying the sands of the Middle-East. No, he gave a speech in which he called a pro-Iranian group called the Islamic Jihad Organization, um, criminals.

    “This criminal act on a diplomatic establishment will not deter us from our goals of peace in the region.”

    That’s telling them, Ron. But Reagan liked to do business with Iran, so maybe it was a business consideration.

    Reagan, always good for lessons learned, moved the embassy to a supposedly secure location, where it was bombed again in 1984, killing twenty Lebanese and two American soldiers.

    Yeah, such a record,

    1986 Kuwait bombings

    1987 Rome

    1990 Embassy attack in Tel Aviv

    2002 Consulate bombing in Karachi

    2004 Tashkent bombing

    2004 Jeddah, Saudi Arabia Consulate attack

    2006 Damascus, Syria

    2007 Athens Embassy

    2007 Vienna, Austria

    2008 Belgrade, Serbia

    2008 Istanbul, Turkey

    2008 Embassy attack in Yemen

  65. 65

    MikeBoyScout spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 12:22 pm

    Cain says he’d be leading Obama if he were nominee

    Romney can’t catch a break.

    Gekko/Galt is the anvil
    We are the HAMMER!

    Hammer it home

  66. 66

    Puddybud spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 12:23 pm

    ny media that I think is insufficiently conservative is not media. I reserve the right to directly quote not media sources to back my worldview but remember, they are not real media.

    Whatacrock… Real media isn’t biased OR they say up front they are biased. MSNBC isn’t real media… just a bunch of leftist hacks. When everyone else was playing the Obummer Socialist video MSBNC claimed they couldn’t verify it was authentic even after Ben Da-LaBolt of Obummer reerction campaign said it was him!

    What you libtards hate about Fox is they actually play the other side with peeps like Shepard Smith.

  67. 67

    YLB spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 12:31 pm

    You forget Clinton and his gang never got terraists out after they overstayed their visas in 1999 and 2000.

    blah, blah, blah… If your beloved empty-suit-in-chief was so “protective” of the American people why did he blow off the August 2001 pdb??

    9/11 HAPPENED on your moron’s watch!

  68. 68

    Puddybud spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 12:37 pm

    Really Steve? Direct from the Internet!

    Oct. 12, 2000 – A terrorist bomb damages the destroyer USS Cole in the port of Aden, Yemen, killing 17 sailors and injuring 39.

    Aug. 7, 1998 – Terrorist bombs destroy the U.S. embassies in Nairobi, Kenya and Dar es Salaam, Tanzania. In Nairobi, 12 Americans are among the 291 killed, and over 5,000 are wounded, including 6 Americans. In Dar es Salaam, one U.S. citizen is wounded among the 10 killed and 77 injured.

    June 21, 1998 – Rocket-propelled grenades explode near the U.S. embassy in Beirut.

    June 25, 1996 – A bomb aboard a fuel truck explodes outside a U.S. air force installation in Dhahran, Saudi Arabia. 19 U.S. military personnel are killed in the Khubar Towers housing facility, and 515 are wounded, including 240 Americans.

    Nov. 13, 1995 – A car-bomb in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia kills seven people, five of them American military and civilian advisers for National Guard training.

    February 1993 – A bomb in a van explodes in the underground parking garage in New York’s World Trade Center, killing six people and wounding 1,042.

  69. 69

    Puddybud spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 12:38 pm

    [Deleted — see HA Comment Policy]

  70. 70

    YLB spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 12:59 pm

    1. GWB43 is not one of the candidates for president this year.

    Heh. Yeah but he was in 2004.. Are you saying you didn’t vote for him because of 9/11??

    2. Why not just point out that we lost more guys at Pearl Harbor in 1941 than we lost last week in Benghazi, while you’re at it?

    Blah, blah, blah… The incumbent at that time wasn’t drummed out of office either…

    Bob you’re a silly broken record on this one.

  71. 71

    YLB spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 1:01 pm

    [Deleted — see HA Comment Policy]

  72. 72

    Puddybud spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 1:11 pm

    [Deleted — see HA Comment Policy]

  73. 73

    Liberal Scientist is a slut who occasionally wears a hoodie spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 1:15 pm

    Cap’n Crunch, above:

    Romney apparently called illegal aliens ‘illegal aliens’ when he was interviewed on Wednesday. Why no orchestrated outrage on the part of the Dems over this description?

    Can’t win with you. You were braying about this the other day. If we express outrage, you get snarky, if there are other more important things to discuss, you try to distract with this.

    You are a joke.

  74. 74

    Liberal Scientist is a slut who occasionally wears a hoodie spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 1:18 pm

    As it becomes increasingly self-evident (to everyone but Lib Despair, that is) that Obama’s State Department permitted and in fact prescribed such lax security that a planned Al Queda attack on US soil on the anniversary of 9/11 resulted in the death of Americans, including one of our diplomats, Obama’s foreign policy status will take a serious hit.

    Translation:

    OBAMA IS A KENYANSOCIALISTMOOSLIM TRAITOR SLEEPER AGENT PLANTED HERE YEARS AGO TO KILL KILL KILL THE US OF A!!!!

    *eye roll*

    Almost sad to see Cap’n Crunch swirling the drain like this, transparently shilling FoxNews fever dreams.

  75. 75

    Liberal Scientist is a slut who occasionally wears a hoodie spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 1:21 pm

    [Deleted — see HA Comment Policy]

  76. 76

    Liberal Scientist is a slut who occasionally wears a hoodie spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 1:24 pm

    How about removing the ambassador for the period prior to and following 9/11?

    And had that happened, you, no doubt, would be braying about cowardice, and cutting and running.

    Do you not realize that your incessant screeching about…

    BENGHAZIIIIII!!!!! ACT OF WARRRRR!!!! OBAMA FAILEDDDDDDD!!!

    …has NO credibility. No one takes you seriously, Cap’n.

  77. 77

    Liberal Scientist is a slut who occasionally wears a hoodie spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 1:31 pm

    @44
    Indeed, Michael.

    It has been said repeatedly by various sane people here that we don’t know what happened, we need to find out, and that information needs to be used to improve our diplomatic security.

    Cap’n Crunch is all about creating a narrative that serves his political agenda, without discernable relationship to the truth.

    It’s part of the reason I skip more than half his posts, and he has no credibility.

    But apparently we make him think, or so he said.

  78. 78

    Cornflake, the conservative cereal spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 1:33 pm

    60. Serial Conservative spews:
    OK I admit it.
    http://www.buzzfeed.com/dorsey.....penis-joke
    I’m going to miss her.

    You’re going somewhere?

  79. 79

    Liberal Scientist is a slut who occasionally wears a hoodie spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 1:33 pm

    Go back a couple of days on HA and you’ll find Lib Despair maintaining it was the video and it wasn’t pre-planned.

    God, you’re insufferable. I have maintained all along that we need to investigate and get the facts, and that would take time. I also think the video was part of the story. I have quoted National Security people who have said publically that we have no intelligence that it was planned. That was several days ago – things could have changed.

    But I never maintained the cartoon that you present as my position. You should get less comfortable with deceit.

  80. 80

    Liberal Scientist is a slut who occasionally wears a hoodie spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 1:35 pm

    I’m going to miss her.

    Jill Biden? Dr. Jill Biden? You mean after 2016, of course?

  81. 81

    MikeBoyScout spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 1:39 pm

    @78, a suicide note? Gekko/Galt mittastrophe pushed Kornflake over the edge. :,(

  82. 82

    Cornflake, the conservative cereal spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 1:44 pm

    66. GoatBoy the RMoney Butt Sucker spews:
    What you libtards hate about Fox is they actually play the other side with peeps like Shepard Smith.

    Fox fires employees for not lying.
    That is the other side you like so much?

  83. 83

    Cornflake, the conservative cereal spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 1:56 pm

    Five Thirty Eight Forecast

    President Nov 6 Forecast
    Obama 308.1 – Mitt the Twitt 229.9

    President Nowcast
    Obama 328.1 – Mitt the Twitt 209.9

    Senate Nov 6 Forecast
    Democrats 51.9 – Republicorp 48.1

  84. 84

    Czechsaaz spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 2:05 pm

    66, 82

    Puddy. Google Joe Scarborough and see where he was employed before MSNBC. If you’re putting Shep Smith forward as an argument for something. I see you posting, but I don’t see a point.

  85. 85

    Cornflake, the conservative cereal spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 2:07 pm

    Are we on the verge of another Goldwater landslide(TM)?

    Not saying it is going to happen, but if it does, Mitt the Twitt deserves full credit.

  86. 86

    dorky dorkman spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 2:11 pm

    Puddy: Since you seem obsessed with the physical functions of the human body, let me riddle you this — What kind of drink do you think that Robert Maplethorpe would have concocted (no pun intended) with Disarrono and ice cubes?

  87. 87

    No Time for Fascists spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 2:25 pm

    Did anyone notice that….

    When Zimmerman was being a domestic terrorist to Trayvon Martin, Serial “It’s fine to humiliate and degrade any stranger until they earn his respect” Conservative was saying be patient and “Don’t rush to judgment, let them do their job” and liberals were screaming, “YES, we want them to do their job! Find the right persons and punish them”

    But when mobs in the Muslim world besiege U.S. embassies, now Serial “It’s fine to humiliate and degrade any stranger until they earn his respect” Conservative is rushing to judgement, condemning anyone who doesn’t want guns blazing, and liberals are still saying “YES, we want them to do their job! Find the right persons and punish them”

  88. 88

    Michael spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 2:30 pm

    Here’s a headline you don’t want to see referring to you guy when you’re trying to get someone elected:

    Romney “47 Percent” Fundraiser Host: Hedge Fund Manager Who Likes Sex Parties
    http://www.motherjones.com/moj.....ex-parties

    Especially when you’re trying to get a Republican that’s signed an anti-porn pledge elected.

    There was a link to it up on Google News.

  89. 89

    Michael spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 2:33 pm

    Are we on the verge of another Goldwater landslide(TM)?

    Off the top of my head, I’d say that Obama’s approval ratings are too low and there’s too much PAC money going against him for that.

  90. 90

    Politically Incorrect spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 2:36 pm

    @21,

    Actually, the SCOTUS ruled back in the 1930s that the FICA witholding is a tax and the government is really under no obligation to pay-out those promised benefits.

  91. 91

    Serial Conservative spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 3:41 pm

    Romney’s taxes, including a summary of what he’s paid in previous years:

    http://www.mittromney.com/blog.....-brad-malt

    I wonder, if all the HA types think it’s in the bag for Obama now, if they care about this anymore.

  92. 92

    Puddybud spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 3:42 pm

    @86,

    Confess you are headless lucy and drop all the pretenses with all your doppelgangers maybe Puddy will answer!

    Until then see ya!

  93. 93

    Puddybud spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 3:44 pm

    Mitt released his 2011 tax returns… over $4 million to charity! Romney donated 30 percent of his income to charity! What will the head up Obummer’s ASS slobbering libtard media say?

  94. 94

    Puddybud spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 3:47 pm

    Wow Fascist@87 one has lost it. Take a drink moron! The world wide non head up Obummer’s ASS slobbering libtard msm called this a terrorist attack last week ya jackASS! Puddy provided active links. Lib da dunce wailed incorrectly like always saying Puddy was wrong. Well Puddy was prescient… spot on!

    Of course you HA libtards living on Daily Kooks or Media Morons hasn’t lifted any of your IQs for the past 8 years!

  95. 95

    Rael spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 4:00 pm

    93. Puddybud spews:
    Mitt released his 2011 tax returns… over $4 million to charity!

    Why is Mittens donating to charity at all?
    Doesn’t that encourage the culture of dependency also?

  96. 96

    mem1 spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 4:01 pm

    @93,

    Wow, all that money and he still won’t pay you to suck the shit out of his ass.

    How much shit have you sucked out of his ass for free by now?

  97. 97

    Rael spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 4:05 pm

    40. Serial Conservative spews:

    @ 38

    I’d love an explanation of that comment.

    If Obama establishes enough of an insurmountable lead that he & the DNC can devote significant time & resources to the downticket races, we could see the Democrats retake the House.

    It isn’t the most likely scenario, I admit, but
    if Mittens has completely self destructed by early to mid-October it could be a game changer for the downticket races.

  98. 98

    Puddybud spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 4:05 pm

    Why is Mittens donating to charity at all?
    Doesn’t that encourage the culture of dependency also?

    Only for libtards who use it as an excuse to stay in the culture of dependency rael. Butt being a libtard moron you would never understand. One gives to charity because you are compelled by Jesus to do that!

  99. 99

    Rael spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 4:08 pm

    At this point in time, the return of Speaker Pelosi is much more likely than a Romney Presidency.

  100. 100

    Rael spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 4:12 pm

    One gives to charity because you are compelled …

    … it’s not a gift if you’re compelled is it …

    …. by Jesus to do that!

    … or perhaps by the ghost Joseph Smith?

  101. 101

    Puddybud spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 4:14 pm

    Oh yeah, now the Harry So Stupid Reid had to change his attack now that Romney has paid over 13% Federal taxes every year for the last 20 years. And of course the liar Stephanie Cutter makes an ASS of herself again!

  102. 102

    Puddybud spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 4:15 pm

    … it’s not a gift if you’re compelled is it …

    To you and your moronic ways rael!

  103. 103

    Puddybud spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 4:17 pm

    100 militant attackers in two waves and they had inside information on the Benghazi consulate!

    Sucks to be the Obummer sadministration!

  104. 104

    Rael spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 4:22 pm

    To you and your moronic ways rael!

    And to your habit of referring to yourself in the third person, Puddy! It makes you sound like Gollum – totally appropriate for a troll.

  105. 105

    Serial Conservative spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 4:25 pm

    @ 103

    100 militant attackers in two waves and they had inside information on the Benghazi consulate!

    That’s a spontaneous protest the same way Bill Ayers was just a guy in Obama’s neighborhood in Chicago.

    Just think…… they rousted that filmmaker out of bed at midnight on a Friday all for nothing.

  106. 106

    Puddybud spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 4:26 pm

    And to your habit of referring to yourself in the third person, Puddy!

    Puddy writes that way to the moronic leftists like you rael. To Steve I talk normally!

    Sucks to be you moronic leftist!

  107. 107

    Puddybud spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 4:29 pm

    Romney’s tax return is here libtards.

  108. 108

    Michael spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 4:29 pm

    @91
    CNN’s headline sums it up pretty well.

    Romney full tax history still a mystery
    http://money.cnn.com/2012/09/2.....x-history/

    A one page note from your accountant isn’t a valid substitute for 10 years worth of tax filings. The way I see it the issue is that once again Romney’s saying he’s giving you this when he’s really giving you that, not the taxes.

  109. 109

    Puddybud spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 4:32 pm

    So PricewaterhouseCoopers are liars Michael just because CNN doesn’t like their report?

  110. 110

    Serial Conservative spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 4:33 pm

    Shakier and shakier.

    Unless you’re Lib Despair, who’s got Obama’s back no matter how big the continuing lie appears to those of us not totally in the tank for The One.

    Obama’s Shaky Libya Narrative

    by Eli Lake Sep 21, 2012 4:45 AM EDT
    Sources say the attack on the Libyan ambassador was pre-meditated, with the possible collaboration of a Libyan politician. Eli Lake on the continuing collapse of the official U.S. line.

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/a.....ative.html

  111. 111

    Puddybud spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 4:33 pm

    Oh Noes…, Hilary Clinton calls Benghazi a terrorist attack. So what will UN Ambassador Susan Rice say now on Sunday shows?

  112. 112

    Serial Conservative spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 4:36 pm

    @ 108

    Valid enough. Reid’s wrong, Romney paid lots of tax dollars each year, he donated more in a year than the Bidens would donate in half a millenium to charity.

    And, yes, he’s rich.

    Tell ya what. In exchange, we’ll settle for your side telling us Obama’s average GPA over his undergraduate years, in lieu of his college transcripts.

  113. 113

    mem1 spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 4:41 pm

    @111,

    Just keep sucking that shit spuddy; someday Mormie will pay you for it.

  114. 114

    mem1 spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 4:45 pm

    @113,

    Wow, with less than 2 months to go, Romney is losing according to every sane analysis out there, and all you have is the race baited garbage about Obama’s grades.

    Romney won’t even match Obama on tax returns, but we need to know that a black guy got into Harvard honestly; yeah, nothing racist about that.

    On a scale of 1 to 10, how badly did you piss yourself when you saw the current election analysis on this site?

  115. 115

    Serial Conservative spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 4:50 pm

    @ 114

    Actually, his grades hold very little interest.

    Now, the Khalidi tape……………

    That’s the Mother Lode.

  116. 116

    Michael spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 4:52 pm

    @112
    1. I don’t have a “side” on this one Obama’s simply the lesser of evils and I think the Right are making up a lot of bullshit so I’m going after them. If the Right stopped making up bullshit, I’d stop going after them. If they’d run Jon Huntsman for president, I’d probably be voting Republican on that one.

    2. Neither I or the CNN article mentions Harry Reid. Not sure why you’re bringing him up. Personally, I think Reid’s corrupt and useless. The issue is one of transparency and of doing exactly what everyone else running for office has done. Why should Romney get a pass?

    3. What Joe Biden or anyone else, Romney included, has or hasn’t given to charity isn’t an issue here.

    4. No one gives a shit about Romney being rich. What we give a shit about is the lack of transparency, this idea that Romney seems to have that the rules are different for him, and Romney’s habit of giving you this when he’s really giving you that.

    5. Why should we have to make a bargain with Romney to get what everyone else gives freely and openly?

  117. 117

    Puddybud spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 4:52 pm

    Wow, a foul stench appeared @113!

  118. 118

    Michael spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 4:56 pm

    @112, 115

    I’m a big fan of the Wikileaks folks. Open the fucking floodgates!

  119. 119

    mem1 spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 5:00 pm

    @117,

    The stench you smell is the shit you were sucking out of Rmoney’s ass.

    Now disclose just how much of his shit you have sucked this year!

  120. 120

    Puddybud spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 5:10 pm

    @119,

    Such a fallacious comment. Non sequitur question from an idiot.

    Carry on leftist idiot!

  121. 121

    Puddybud spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 5:16 pm

    Univision made Obummer look bad. Obummer went off on his tangents and danced danced danced! Will the slobbering libtard msm heads up Obummer’s ASS media report it straight up!

    Remember Obummer had control of both houses before 2011.

  122. 122

    mem1 spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 5:17 pm

    @120,

    You can duck the question all you want, but it won’t go any better for you than it does for Rmoney.

    Now tell us how much shit you sucked out of Rmoney’s ass this year!

  123. 123

    mem1 spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 5:18 pm

    @121,

    No, because he didn’t. You teabagging Rethuglicans abused the minority filibuster to block basically everything long before 2011.

    The way Rmoney abuses you by getting you to suck the shit out of his ass without paying you.

  124. 124

    Puddybud spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 5:20 pm

    From Obummer’s Univision event official transcript

    THE PRESIDENT: Well, first of all, obviously we mourn the loss of the Americans who were killed in Benghazi.

    I mourned them for a nanosecond, then I went and partied with Jay-Z and Beyonce and visited David Letterman instead of going to the ex-Navy Seal funerals.

  125. 125

    Puddybud spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 5:22 pm

    No, because he didn’t.

    Oh yes Obummer did. The NY Slimes disagrees with your sorry ASS!

    Once again that Obummer shit is tasty isn’t it mem1?

  126. 126

    mem1 spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 5:27 pm

    @125,

    No he didn’t , you lying shit sucker.

    “SENATE ADJOURNS. However the Senate adjourned for the year on October 9th, only providing 11 working days of super majority, from September 25th to October 9th.”

    WOW, a whole 11 days of supermajority.

    And don’t turn your shit sucking ways around on me.

    Now tell us how much shit you sucked out of Rmoney’s ass!

  127. 127

    Puddybud spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 5:31 pm

    Whatadipshit this mem1 is. DUMMOCRAPT Harry Reid controls the senate, you dumb mofo! He controls the timeframes. So your

    No, because he didn’t. You teabagging Rethuglicans abused the minority filibuster to block basically everything long before 2011.

    is a bald face lie ya moron!

    Mr. Franken, 58, a former comedian and author, could be seated in the Senate as early as Monday, leaders there said, providing Democrats with something they had long hoped for: 60 votes, and thus at least the symbolic ability to overcome filibusters.

    FactLeft? Who are they? What are their credentials? Sucks to be so stupid! Obummer knew Al Frenken[stein] was going to be sworn in. Why wasn’t legislation ready to be voted upon? They had 59 votes and Reid controlled the senate floor.

    Once again that Obummer shit is tasty isn’t it mem1?

  128. 128

    Puddybud spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 5:45 pm

    OWS made a last stand in NYC. Fraggy must be sad!

  129. 129

    Cornflake, the conservative cereal spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 5:57 pm

    112. Serial Conservative spews:
    Tell ya what. In exchange, we’ll settle for your side telling us Obama’s average GPA over his undergraduate years, in lieu of his college transcripts.

    What!? You don’t want Obama’s Birth Certificate?
    How refreshing.

  130. 130

    Cornflake, the conservative cereal spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 6:06 pm

    117. ButtBoy the Butt Sucker spews:

    Wow, a foul stench appeared @113! in my mouth.
    Tastes like shit.

    GoatBoy, please keep your disgusting personal habits to yourself.

  131. 131

    Puddybud spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 6:13 pm

    Soggyflake@130, soggy from goatjuice…

    Try again… not what Puddy wrote!

  132. 132

    Cornflake, the conservative cereal spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 6:13 pm

    Awww look, Obama’s numbers moved up again.
    Can you say “another Goldwater landslide”?

    Five Thirty Eight Forecast

    President Nov 6 Forecast
    Obama 308.7 – Mitt the Twitt 229.3

    President Nowcast
    Obama 329.7 – Mitt the Twitt 208.3

    Senate Nov 6 Forecast
    Democrats 51.9 – Republicorp 48.1

  133. 133

    Cornflake, the conservative cereal spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 6:17 pm

    Poor, poor GoatBoy. Did I hurt your feelings?
    Well, go play with your goat.
    That will make you feel better.

  134. 134

    Puddybud spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 6:17 pm

    “No I Can’t” – Obummer’s new slogan!

    OR

    Why We Couldn’t” – Obummer’s new slogan!

  135. 135

    Cornflake, the conservative cereal spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 6:21 pm

    @134
    Don’t you wish GoatBoy. Mitt the Twitt is going down. And there is nothing you can do about it. Mitt is a looser just like you.

  136. 136

    Cornflake, the conservative cereal spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 6:24 pm

    Hey GoatBoy, even Fox News’ latest poll shows the Twitt going down.

    New Fox News poll released Thursday shows Obama winning 3 key swing states

    It sure sucks to be you, huh GoatBoy?

  137. 137

    Puddybud spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 6:25 pm

    Did I hurt your feelings?

    No ekim butt how are those soggyflakes tasting…? Are they going down easy?

  138. 138

    Cornflake, the conservative cereal spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 6:27 pm

    Mitt the Twitt’s new slogan:
    Goin’ Down… Goin’ Down… But not goin’ alone…

    Can you say another Goldwater landslide?

  139. 139

    Cornflake, the conservative cereal spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 6:30 pm

    @137
    Poor GoatBoy, I did hurt your feelings.

  140. 140

    Liberal Scientist is a Dirty Fucking Socialist Hippie spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 7:12 pm

    Non sequitur question from an idiot.

    At least he spelled non sequitur correctly. He still doesn’t know how to use it in a sentence.

    Puddy, can we see your college grades?

  141. 141

    Liberal Scientist is a Dirty Fucking Socialist Hippie spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 7:15 pm

    Puddy, you’ve still never told me, would your Jesus approve of torture, to extract information from the bad guys who attacked in Benghazi?

    On a related note, would your Jesus agree with your heroes Willard and Ayn about the poor being lazy and dependent?

  142. 142

    Liberal Scientist is a Dirty Fucking Socialist Hippie spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 7:23 pm

    WOW. Check this out.

    Paul Ryan, speaking in a smarmier and more condescending manner than usual, is BOO’d loudly and repeatedly as he lied to the good seniors at the AARP convention.

    BOO’d. Loudly. Wow.

  143. 143

    meme1 spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 7:26 pm

    @127

    As always spuddy, you spend so much time sucking shit you can’t read what’s right in front of you.

    Now go suck some more shit, with the shellacking Rmoney is getting he newds it.

  144. 144

    Liberal Scientist is a Dirty Fucking Socialist Hippie spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 7:33 pm

    Again, WOW.

    I’m just catching up reading the days news after a busy day working…and I find that Willard has brought up the topic of his taxes.

    W. T. F.

    *snort*

    What, 50 days left until the election, and he wants to redirect the conversation to HIS TAXES?!!

    O. M. G.

    After the last two disastrous weeks, HE WANTS TO TURN THE CONVERSATION TO HIS TAXES?!!!
    I’m speechless…at the utter stupidity, the absolute political malpractice.

    YEEE-HAH!

    This is the guy the trolls want to be President?

    GUFFAW!

    He can’t even figure out who to fight, ’cause he just gave Harry Reid another opening to smack him around! Of course, the Obama campaign is now demanding 20 years of returns!

    BWHAHAHAHAAAAAAAA!!!

  145. 145

    Puddybud spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 7:44 pm

    At least he spelled non sequitur correctly. He still doesn’t know how to use it in a sentence.

    For the last time Lib da dunce… A statement that does not follow logically from what preceded it. Fallacious statement… Puddy doesn’t suck shit from anyone’s ASS; butt apparently to Lib da dunce does, so it that made perfect sense to Lib da dunce. Lib da dunce does swaps rimjobs with ekim! Well two goat lovers swinging together in da hayloft, who knows what happens in da barn. To Lib da dunce it’s another day in DUMMOCRAPTville.

    So Puddy figgers Lib da dunce is a vacuuming type of guy. Puddy got Lib da dunce all wrong.

    BTW Lib da dunce.. you haven’t told us how all those new ASSholes feel now that Obummer sadministration admitted the Benghazi consulate was a terraist attack?

  146. 146

    Puddybud spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 7:54 pm

    AARP…? Really Lib da dunce?

    It’s a DUMMOCRAPT organization Lib da dunce… When GW Bush tried to float a 4% redirect of their Social Security payroll taxes into private accounts the AARP parroting the DUMMOCRAPT line. AARP honored Harry Belafonte, no friend to conservatives. AARP fought the Reagan and Bush tax cuts, parroting the DUMMOCRAPT line. Mrs Puddy and Puddy quit the AARP years ago due to their DUMMOCRAPT leanings. AARP CEO Barry Rand jockstraps Obummer, and he gave $8,900 to Obummer in 2008. CEO Rand gave $15,900 to DUMMOCRAPTS since 1995. No wonder why Paul Ryan was booed! Paid DUMMOCRAPT propaganda machine. Now their mailings hit da rectangular filing device unopened!

  147. 147

    Liberal Scientist is a Dirty Fucking Socialist Hippie spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 8:02 pm

    It’s a DUMMOCRAPT organization Lib da dunce…

    …the AARP parroting the DUMMOCRAPT line.

    Paid DUMMOCRAPT propaganda machine.

    If it’s such a bastion of unreconstructed liberal thought, then why was your genius Paul Ryan there in the first place?

  148. 148

    Liberal Scientist is a Dirty Fucking Socialist Hippie spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 8:10 pm

    A statement that does not follow logically from what preceded it. Fallacious statement…

    You seem to be using ‘non sequitur’ for any comment you disagree with. At least you’ve started spelling it correctly, after I showed you.

    Perhaps you are teachable, in a limited way.

  149. 149

    Puddybud spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 8:20 pm

    If it’s such a bastion of unreconstructed liberal thought, then why was your genius Paul Ryan there in the first place?

    One always walks into the enemy’s territory to discuss their folly and their wrong actions of the past. Sometimes it works, other times it fails.

  150. 150

    Puddybud spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 8:22 pm

    Perhaps you are teachable, in a limited way.

    And… perhaps you are still an idiot, in the most grandiose way!

    BTW Lib da dunce.. you haven’t told us how all those new ASSholes feel now that Obummer sadministration admitted the Benghazi consulate was a terraist attack? How is that flow-through ventilation working out for ya?

  151. 151

    Cornflake, the conservative cereal spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 8:34 pm

    150. Puddybud spews:

    Perhaps you are teachable, in a limited way.

    And… perhaps I are still an idiot, in the most grandiose way!

    Idiot: yes.
    Grandiose: not so much.

    Good try GoatBoy!

  152. 152

    Michael spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 9:12 pm

    @144

    Here’s what that hippie-hugging liberal David Brooks had to say about Romney tonight. The bolding’s mine.

    http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb.....09-21.html
    JUDY WOODRUFF: So what about the tape, the 47 percent comment, Mark? How damaging is that?

    MARK SHIELDS: It’s damaging, Judy, because it plays into the stereotype that — of Mitt Romney that has emerged in this campaign, and that is of an out-of-touch man who doesn’t connect with ordinary people.

    Andy Kohut in the most Pew Research poll asked, who connects better with ordinary people, Barack Obama or Mitt Romney? Sixty-six to 23, I mean, that means that people — half the people who are supporting him don’t believe he connects. Think about that.

    And it just — beyond that,

    it shows a contempt and a disdain for people

    , I mean, ordinary people. Jack Kemp to me was sort of the embodiment of what I call — he called bleeding-heart conservatism, somebody who cared.

    He was a conservative who cared about working people, cared about ordinary people, and just revered and honored people who got up every day, packed a lunch, punched a clock, raised a family, worked hard.

    They didn’t have to be entrepreneurs. They didn’t have to be impresarios. They didn’t have to be starting corporations. I mean, they were valued. And, in Mitt Romney’s America, as outlined in that Boca Raton statement, they really aren’t — they aren’t valued people

    …

    Several decades ago, I had a chance to have dinner with Tom Clancy, the thriller writer. And he sat down. He had just toured a battleship and he had seen a new weapon system. And was bubbling over with excitement about this new weapon system he thought was very interesting.

    And he was just talking about it with great passion. And I remember thinking, you can’t fake it. If you don’t feel that, you can’t write Tom Clancy novels.

    And with Mitt Romney, he’s faking it. I think he’s a non-ideological guy running in an ideological age who is pretending to be way more ideological than he really is. And so he talks like he has this cartoon image of how I’m supposed to be talking.

    And, as a result, it is stupid a lot — half the time — not half the time, some of the time. It’s an impersonation.

  153. 153

    Michael spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 9:13 pm

    Oops, bad editing on my part. The first bit is Mark Shields, the rest is David Brooks.

  154. 154

    YLB spews:

    Friday, 9/21/12 at 10:20 pm

    Still looking pretty bad for Dullard…

    How’s that ODS working out for you trolls???

  155. 155

    Puddybud spews:

    Saturday, 9/22/12 at 6:35 am

    David Brooks – RINO! No wonder why you leftists love him!

  156. 156

    Serial Conservative spews:

    Saturday, 9/22/12 at 7:50 am

    I was struck that David Brooks invoked Tom Clancy, who makes a good living writing novels.

    Fiction novels.


    And he was just talking about it with great passion. And I remember thinking, you can’t fake it. If you don’t feel that, you can’t write Tom Clancy novels.

    Actually, isn’t Tom Clancy faking it every time he picks up a pen?

  157. 157

    Liberal Scientist is a Dirty Fucking Socialist Hippie spews:

    Saturday, 9/22/12 at 7:54 am

    @156
    That’s the best you can do?

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