Podcasting Liberally, gay pride edition

We had a gay old time at Drinking Liberally last night, celebrating Referendum 65’s demise by packing our panel with gay men. (Um… so to speak.) Helping us rub Tim Eyman’s nose in his latest failure were two of the state’s better known homosexuals, 43rd LD Rep. Ed Murray and The Stranger editor and nationally syndicated sex columnist Dan Savage… plus The Stranger’s lesser known (and lady-dazzled) Eli Sanders.

Joining me (Goldy), Ed, Dan and Eli in nondiscriminatory political discourse were Mollie, Will, and Carl. When Will wasn’t brown-nosing Dan, our topics of discussion included the dramatic collapse of the anti-anti-discrimination movement, prospects for gay marriage in WA state, "An Inconvenient Truth", who we really want to run for president (hint: watch "An Inconvenient Truth") and smelly buses vs. glittering monorail. Did you know Mollie once killed a man on a city bus? It’s true. Give it a listen.

The show is 54:08, and is available here as a 34 MB MP3. Please visit PodcastingLiberally.com for complete archives and RSS feeds.

[Recorded live at the Seattle chapter of Drinking Liberally. Special thanks to Confab creators Gavin and Richard for producing the show.]


  1. 1

    Mr. Cynical spews:

    “We had a gay old time at Drinking Liberally last night, celebrating Referendum 65’s demise by packing our panel with gay men.”

    If this means y’all were packin’ fudge, I don’t care to hear about!

  2. 2

    klake spews:

    I love this. Orwell strikes again. The homophobes fail to pass the Senate with the I Hate Gays Constitutional Amendment and laud the fact that they got “several” new votes? You mean the fact that they got the same exact number of yes votes they got last time is “several” new votes? Are these fucking idiots that stupid?
    Commentby BushWentAWOL— 6/7/06@ 8:43 am
    BushWentAWOL now that is a name of a coward who should be exposed for what he/she really is, like a gay hiding in the closet. There are certain words that you use in such a fashion they are rendered useless due to toxic way you express yourself. Anyone who disagrees with you has to be homophobe which slams all the doors on what you want to present. Now the rest of your gutter language is not worth addressing but it does show you poor communication skills. What has been pass into law today will not benefit those who are gay but expose other gays to life changes that they were not prepared for or willing to make today. From your point of view you do not give a dame about gays but only your hidden agendas. Like I hate Bush so much that I do not care who has to pay for my emotional out bursts. You would betray anyone including your country just to belittle the President of the United States. This really renders you to such a small insecure little person. Really you have no fear of posting you real name because it would be a waste of time slapping some sense into your head.

  3. 3

    Mr. Cynical spews:

    Goldy sez:
    “When Will wasn’t brown-nosing Dan,”

    You sick bastards!! And in a restuarant….with young impressionables?!
    Is that the latest “alternative” turn-on???
    My God Goldy…what’s next???

  4. 4

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    “Did you know Mollie once killed a man on a city bus?”

    Was he a Republican? I’m jealous.

  5. 6

    Roger Rabbit spews:


    “Are these fucking idiots that stupid?”

    Since you asked, yes, they’re that stupid.

  6. 7

    LeftTurn spews:

    Sounds like Ms. Cynical is jealous? Wishes she could have gotten ahold of some of that fudge?

    Was Jim West there too?

  7. 8

    Roger Rabbit spews:


    What have we hear? klake lecturing us on civil discourse?


    Good one, klake!

  8. 10

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Six months ago the trollfucks were complaining that Dean Logan disenfranchised Lt. Wataba, and now all of a sudden it turns out they think Lt. Wataba is a Democrat.

  9. 11

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Since available data indicate that roughly 80% of Army officers vote Republican, there’s a 4 out of 5 chance that Lt. Wataba is a Republican.

  10. 12

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Would any of you trollfucks like to explain your fellow Republican Lt. Wataba’s reneging his soldier’s oath? Pretty embarrassing, following on the heels of your fellow Republican Mark the Reddick welshing on his gambling debts.

  11. 14

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    A promise, contract, or oath isn’t worth spit when it’s made by a Republican — just ask the GOP wives whose husbands cheated on them! http://www.americaheldhostile.com/cheating.html

    “The Republican Wife-Cheating Hall of Fame

    “The Internet Web Page Considered ‘Public Enemy
    Number One’ by the Hypocritical Republican Party!

    “Many toothless, militia-sympathizing morons like to believe that Democrats somehow own the franchise on wife cheating, probably because of the legend of John F. Kennedy and the ‘Bash-Clinton’ psycho cottage industry which employs retard inbreds like Kenneth Starr and Paula Jones’ attorneys. But when you tally the facts, there are a huge number – more than three times as many Republicans who have cheated on their wives than Democrats. Let’s count up the Randy Right Wingers……

    “Rep. Susan “Congressional ‘Ho” Myrick


    “The Republican Adultery Honor Roll of Shame:

    “Rep. Henry Hyde Broke up a family during his seven year adulterous affair!
    “Mike Bowers Cheated on his wife for FIFTEEN YEARS!
    “George Bush Linda Tripp says had he an affair with a woman named ‘Jennifer’
    “Newt Gingrich Dumped his ex-wife while she was in a hospital bed suffering from cancer….
    “Bob Dole Cheated on his first wife with his current wife, Elizabeth Dole.
    “Former Rep. Bob Dornan Reported to have cheated on and beaten his wife.
    “John Linder Has a wandering eye for his female staff members.
    “Ronald Reagan Dumped Jane Wyman by cheating on her with several Hollywood starlets
    “William Cohen Dumped his white wife for a new black one.
    “Guy Millner Has been married three times, partly because he has sex with women he isn’t married to….
    “Rush Limbaugh Fat as he may be, he cheated on two of his three wives…
    “Mitch Skandalakis Hired hookers from his Las Vegas hotel room!
    “Michael Deaver Was so drunk he doesn’t remember hiring hookers…
    “John Warner Dumped his wife for Elizabeth Taylor…
    “Bill Randall A Florida Congressional candidate and minister, he fathered an illegitimate child during his affair!
    “Bill McCartney Promise Keepers founder who didn’t keep his Promise to his wife and then lied about it for 20 years!
    “Rep. Dan Burton Had at least six adulterous affairs, and fathered a bastard son who, today, he ignores!!
    “Rep. Bob Barr Cheated on all three of his wives – and coerced one into having an abortion – then lied about it!
    “Rudolph Giuliani Boffs his assistant in Gracie Mansion while his wife stays home with the kids!
    “Sen. Strom Thurmond Cheated on his fourth wife at age 88!!
    “Gilbert Davis Paula Jones’ attorney, who allowed himself to be videotaped DrUnK during his adultery!
    “Bob Packwood Drank huge amounts of hard liquor and then tongue-kissed his female staffers against their will!
    “Gov. Kirk Fordice Got so hopped up by his mistress that he crashed his Jeep Cherokee and got himself hurt!
    “Beverly Russell The Christian Coalition coordinator who molested his stepdaughter Susan Smith, who later killed her own kids.
    “Marv Albert Calls himself a Republican, bites his longtime mistresses, and has sex with her while wearing women’s panties!

    “Other Horny Republicans:

    “N.C. Rep. Sue Myrick – Who cheated on her husband and left him for another man!
    “LA. Rep. Bob Livingston – The GOP Speaker-to-never-be, who cheated on his wife Bonnie – with at least four women!
    “Michael Huffington – The Former GOP Congressman who cheated on his wife Arianna – with other men!
    “Oklahoma Lt. Gov. Mary Fallin – Who had an adulterous affair with her Security Guard – a state trooper!
    “Rep. Helen Chenoweth – Who screwed most every married male member of the Idaho Legislature!
    “The Charleston County, S.C. Solicitor, a Republican, who had an extramarital affair – a GAY affair with another man…..
    “Jim Bakker – Who eventually got locked up in chains and sent to federal prison.
    “Jimmy Swaggart – Who broke down crying after he got busted with an ugly hooker!
    “We really should mention John Tower, the infamous alcoholic woman-chasing midget U.S. Senator, but he’s dead, so he doesn’t count!

    “Don’t forget – Republican women can be adulterous, too! There are lots of cheating Republican ho’s on our list!”

  12. 16

    Mr. Cynical spews:

    Sounds like Ms. Cynical is jealous? Wishes she could have gotten ahold of some of that fudge?
    Was Jim West there too?
    Commentby LeftTurd— 6/7/06@ 5:04 pm

    One thing I ain’t is a cocksucker like you!
    And besides, Goldy is just funnin’ around with words….horseplay.
    Ooooooops, I apologize for the Horseplay reference.
    After all, you freaks lost a loyal Seattle KLOWN in that Enumclaw debacle when your felow KLOWN got screwed to death by that horse. The KLOWN was from of all places THE FREEMOUNT DISTRICT!!!

  13. 18

    Roger Rabbit spews:


    “One thing I ain’t is a cocksucker” Commentby Mr. Cynical— 6/7/06@ 5:35 pm

    How do we know? Are we supposed to take your word for that?

  14. 20

    Roger Rabbit spews:


    Mr. Cynical

    [X] 1. is … 143,577 votes
    [ ] 2. is not … 114 votes*

    a cocksucker.

    * 96 of these votes were cast by Momus, 3 by Cynical, and 15 by a dead guy name Mervin Fudgepacker III.

  15. 22

    Roger Rabbit spews:


    Roger Rabbit is a

    [X] 1. cute, lovable, furry bunny … 143,577 votes
    [ ] 2. cocksucker … 0 votes*

    * Although 114 votes were cast in this category, all of these votes were disqualified, because none of the three voters who cast them are eligible to vote.

  16. 23

    REP Pat Kennedy [D-Bitchslap the Black Security Guard At LAX] spews:


  17. 24

    sgmmac spews:

    Roger! WUZ UP?

    LT Watada knows the consequences of his actions and I feel confident that the US Army will take the appropriate administrative and legal actions against him. I feel sorry for the soldiers working under him and I am hopeful that he will get the maximum punishment allowable under the UCMJ (Uniform Code of Military Justice.)

    I support peaceful protests for any cause, but I am tired of the protestors in Olympia who are destroying property and overtaxing our law enforcement officers. It really disgusts me that LT Watada is allowing himself to be used as a pawn in the political arena of war by Anti-War protestor groups.

    When he puts on his uniform, he carries a big responsibility to follow orders of Officers above him and the Commander in Chief. Soldiers don’t get to pick the wars they fight in, that is the job of Congress and the President. They approved this war and have funded this war and make no mistake, it is a LEGAL war.

    His soldiers are much better off without him and so is the Army. With any luck, he will spend a long time in a military prison learning what it’s like to do unpleasant things.

  18. 26

    Roger Rabbit spews:


    “California Wants Answers on Oil Prices

    “California’s Attorney General has begun hauling the CEOs of major oil companies into his office – demanding, in closed door sessions, that those executives tell him, under oath, why gas prices are higher in California than almost anywhere else in the nation.

    “The attorney general is also taking a hard look at refiners’ profit margins, which soared by 130 percent at a time when the price of crude oil increased by 14 percent.

    “‘They intentionally short the market using exporting or control of the refinery production,’ says Tim Hamilton, a petroleum industry consultant hired by a consumer group to investigate why California’s gasoline stockpiles run so much lower than the rest of the country, another factor driving high prices. ‘Our tanks are constantly on empty,’ says Hamilton, ‘and it causes us to have price spikes.'”


  19. 27

    Roger Rabbit spews:


    “Roger! WUZ UP?”

    Dunno. Some guy whose vote for Rossi wasn’t counted wants to quit his job.

  20. 28

    Roger Rabbit spews:


    “When he puts on his uniform, he carries a big responsibility to follow orders of Officers above him and the Commander in Chief. Soldiers don’t get to pick the wars they fight in, that is the job of Congress and the President.”

    Hard to argue with that. If he didn’t want to accept his orders or fight in whatever war he was sent to, he shouldn’t have accepted the commission. When you join the Army, the Army owns your ass – lock, stock, and barrel. If someone doesn’t like those terms of employment, the solution is they shouldn’t enlist in the first place.

  21. 29

    LeftTurn spews:

    Yes RR the rethugs are CONSTANTLY reminding us that most of the military votes GOP. So when they quit, when they rape, when they beat prisoners, when they shoot unarmed women and children and when they torture, they accurately depict what the GOP stands for.

  22. 30

    JDB spews:


    I agree 99% with you. However, if he truly believes that an order is unjust or unlawful, he has every reason, and in fact must, reject that order. However, he must face the consequences. If he is right, history will hold him up, and events should step in. If he is wrong, he gets the punishment he deserves.

    It is, after all, civil disobedience. The whole point is that you must pay for your actions, but you believe that it is worth what you pay. As Gandhi and King proved, if your actions are just, in a civilized society, you will be rewarded in the end.

    I also have problems with any property destruction. There is simply no justification in this case. Chain their gates if you will, but expect your chain to be cut. God knows, this war deserves to be protested, but property destruction misses the point. I also think that protesting the shipment of support equipment to soldiers isn’t that helpful (unless you admit that it is a purely symbolic protest). Your problem lies with Washington and the GOP, not with the soldiers that are doing there job. This just drives away those you need to convince, and, guess what, a lot more of those soldiers agree with you than you imagine.

  23. 31

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    In his current circumstnaces, Watada can render his best service by joining his unit and using his position as an officer to make sure that HIS men, at least, carry out their duties lawfully and do not get involved in unlawful killings, torture, or atrocities. If recent events are any indication, God knows we need more good officers and non-coms in Iraq than we’ve presently got — for the sake of Iraqi civilians.

  24. 32

    Roger Rabbit spews:


    It seems that, in the trollfucks’ minds at least, “when they quit, when they rape, when they beat prisoners, when they shoot unarmed women and children and when they torture, they” suddenly are Democrats. Commentby LeftTurn— 6/7/06@ 7:11 pm

  25. 33

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    You can be very sure that if 80% of the troops voted for Democrats, the same people who bleat about military voters being “disenfranchised” would work overtime to disenfranchise military voters.

  26. 34

    JDB spews:

    The far right and wingnuts have to be cringing at Ann Coulter’s meltdown. Here she is, giving away all their secrets.

    Her main shrill cry right now is her attack on the victims of 9/11. But she is giving too much away. She has basically admitted that she cannot debate a person’s ideas, she can only attack a person. She can’t say “I disagree with the 9/11 widows for these reasons, she can only call them harpies and say they enjoy their husbands death. Even if that is true, that doesn’t mean they are not right. But Ann is upset that if she calls them harpies that people say you shouldn’t say that. No one has said you cannot debate them, and she doesn’t even claim that ever happens. But without her ability to attack, she is nothing, so she is throwing a fit on national television saying “if I can call generic Democrats traitorous murderous pigs, why can’t I call specific people that. That’s all I have, and that’s how I make my living.” She is the victim because without insults, she is nothing.

  27. 35

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Hmmm … this is interesting … in Vietnam, the M-16 rifle was a piece of shit; 35 years later, in Iraq, guess what the M-16 rifle is STILL a piece of shit.

    In Vietnam, many Marines preferred to pack AK-47s if they could get them; 35 years later, in Iraq, many Marines prefer to pack AK-47s if they can get them.


  28. 37

    LeftTurn spews:

    WASHINGTON – Senate Judiciary Chairman Arlen Specter wants Vice President Dick Cheney to stop trying to influence his committee’s review of the White House’s warrantless surveillance program.

    “It is neither pleasant nor easy to raise these issues with the administration of my own party, but I do so because of their importance,” the Pennsylvania Republican wrote Cheney in a three-page letter Tuesday.


    Looks like the righties are having trouble getting along again! GOD how I love watching republican train wrecks!

  29. 38

    sgmmac spews:


    31 May 73 TO 31 May 03,

    Fort McClellan, Fort Lee, Fort Carson, Hanau FRG, Fort Sill, Stuttgart FRG, Fort Irwin, Fort Bliss, Bamberg FRG, Fort Lewis…

    US, Germany, Saudi Arabia, Albania, Japan, & Thailand

  30. 41

    YO spews:

    gee what a great win in ca.your a bunch of lossssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssers you lost go fuck yourself.oh yea roger rabbit eats shit and tries to bark at the moon

  31. 42

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Yo (which is a contraction of “yahoo” as in “trailer park yahoo” and is properly spelled “Y’o;” like Stefan Sharkansky, Y’o can’t even spell his own fucking name correctly) thinks going from an 18-point margin to a 4-point margin in two years is a “great win.”

    I certainly hope you guys keep on “winning,” Y’o!

  32. 46

    Richard Pope spews:

    like Stefan Sharkansky, Y’o can’t even spell his own fucking name correctly)

    Commentby Roger Rabbit— 6/7/06@ 8:04 pm

    Roger Rabbitt can’t spell his name correctly either.

  33. 47

    RUFUS Fitzgerald Kennedy spews:

    Yes RR the rethugs are CONSTANTLY reminding us that most of the military votes GOP. So when they quit, when they rape, when they beat prisoners, when they shoot unarmed women and children and when they torture, they accurately depict what the GOP stands for.

    Commentby LeftTurn— 6/7/06@ 7:11 pm

    Hey we Kennedys know something about rape and murder. It one of few attributes that get us elected each and every time.

  34. 48

    LeftTurn spews:

    I just watched Dateline To Catch A Predator. All of RUFFASSSSSS’s relatives and pals were on the show. The first 10 guys were all “religious.” Proves what I have been saying all along. Right wing religious taliban types are child rapists and pervs.

  35. 51

    RUFUS Fitzgerald Kennedy spews:

    If you think we Kennedys are bad you havent seen us teamed up with Robert Byrd yet. Hehe

  36. 52

    REP Pat Kennedy [D-Bitchslap the Black Security Guard At LAX] spews:

    Media reports are now circulating that prosecutors are in quiet discussions with the office of Georgia Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney, DEMOCRAT, to offer her some sort of plea agreement. This way, as the rumors go, she would avoid any jail time for hitting a Capitol Police officer. Just what sort of punishment could she expect? Who knows…probably a fine and probation. Or community service. But you can bet there would be no jail time.

    That’s too bad that they’re offering her special treatment and coddling her. Anyone else…they would be sent up the river. Had it been a white male that slugged the cop, would they be offering a plea deal to him? Nope. It is only because prosecutors fear McKinney’s cries of racism that they’re trying to cut a deal.

    And you also have to ask yourself…what would have happened if John Q. Public had done this? Try that the next time you’re pulled over by a cop. Just take a swing at one and see where you wind up. I can guarantee you it will be the inside of a jail cell…that is after you’re wrestled to the ground and handcuffed….probably after having experienced the business end of a Taser.

    Even after all this is settled, will Cynthia McKinney, DEMOCRAT, GA, be re-elected this fall? No doubt. You think she’s bad .. you ought to see the people who elected her.

  37. 53

    RUFUS Fitzgerald Kennedy spews:

    just watched Dateline To Catch A Predator. All of RUFFASSSSSS’s relatives and pals were on the show. The first 10 guys were all “religious.” Proves what I have been saying all along. Right wing religious taliban types are child rapists and pervs.

    Commentby LeftTurn— 6/7/06@ 8:34 pm

    Why dont they make it easy on themselves and sneak up on a public school teacher after school let out. Thats bank man. Of course dont let the WEA know. Hehe

  38. 54

    Tree Frog Farmer spews:

    RogerRabbit@36 My preference would be a Dragunov SVD, with a POS-1 mounted. It has been mistaken for an AK-47 and can readily chamber and function well out to 600 meters with standard 7.62 54 MM R rounds. There are several special rounds available, more or less, that let it function well out to 1,000 meters.
    If you want full auto, you’ll have to re-machine a receiver on your AK. The SVD and ‘Tiger” are readily available as ‘hunting’ weapons in the US now.

  39. 55

    RUFUS Fitzgerald Kennedy spews:


    An AK 47 is to messy. May I suggest a 1965 Oldmobile convertible instead. Hehe

  40. 56

    Huh? spews:

    Goldy, why such a need to be so in your face about your sexuality? Get a room, keep it private. That’s what normal people do, both gay and straight.

    And why aren’t you at Yearly Kos? Couldn’t afford the trip? You waste way too much of your time blogging for free.

  41. 57

    Roger Rabbit spews:


    “The SVD and ‘Tiger” are readily available as ‘hunting’ weapons in the US now.”


  42. 59

    Richard Pope spews:

    So how do the results in CA 50th yesterday bode for the Republicans? A 4% win in a district with a 15% GOP registration edge — and where the same Democrat candidate lost by over 20% in 2004 — is hardly a resounding victory. It can’t be blamed on Democrat millions being poured in, since the GOP poured in twice as many millions.

    I would assume Bush’s approval in the WA 8th is somewhere in the low 30’s — and over 10 points less than the votes he got in 2004. The kind of numbers where nearly every Democrat hates Bush, few independents like him, and most Republicans either disapprove or have extremely unenthusiasic approval.

    Darcy Burner may very well be able to pull it off if Bush’s approval remains so low. In spite of her lack of experience and several indicia of flakiness. Especially if Goldy comes up with some dirt on Reichert come October.

  43. 61

    RUFUS Fitzgerald Kennedy spews:

    How did you get pictures of Byrd’s last victory party? Man I hope they dont have the one of me and uncle Ted with the waitress. Yikes!!

  44. 62

    klake spews:

    In Vietnam, many Marines preferred to pack AK-47s if they could get them; 35 years later, in Iraq, many Marines prefer to pack AK-47s if they can get them.


    Commentby Roger Rabbit— 6/7/06@ 7:23 pm

    Roger you can add the 9MM with the other junk. I prefer the M14 and the 45 still, the both knocks the caps flat on their ass.

  45. 63

    Tree Frog Farmer spews:

    Ummm, dunno about the ‘zooka. However, if you wish, you CAN modify the receiver of that ‘old,useless’ collector, the Mosin-Nagant and use it in your AK. . .
    However, as it happens, it only takes about ten minutes and a cross-cut file to take the lug off from the receiver on a MAC-10 single shot civilian model.This is quite similar to the battle field ‘mod’ sometimes found on vintage M-1’s.

  46. 64

    daCascadian spews:

    Roger Rabbit >”…in Vietnam, the M-16 rifle was a piece of shit; 35 years later, in Iraq, guess what the M-16 rifle is STILL a piece of shit…”

    You are waaay too polite; “piece of shit” is a compliment when discussing the M-16 (nice profit magins tho !)

    And the aholes in that CBS story are completely LOST as is the Army; “…The army issued a final report last week that concludes in essence that those test results are wrong and misleading. It argues the 5.56 has the “same potential effectiveness” of the 7.62 during the heat of battle…”

    Obviously written by someone that never saw combat (“heat of battle” etc)

    Semper Fi

    “There are three kinds of men:
    1. The ones that learn by reading.
    2. The few who learn by observation.
    3. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves.” – Will Rogers

  47. 66

    Tree Frog Farmer spews:

    daCascadian@64 I am not familiar with the report you reference, nor any broadcast discussing it, but it sounds like the Army is following more recent Soviet Doctrine, as evidenced by the emergence of the AK-101 and AK-103, which chamber 5.56 MM rounds. These give rates of fire of 600 rounds per minute, and suppression effects out to about 300 meters. My ‘druthers would be a more ‘traditional’ AK-47 configuration allowing suppressive fire to lethal effect out to beyond 1000 meters with the 7.62x39mm round.
    Since Venezuela is now manufacturing the AK-103, perhaps Hugo Chavez will support sending some here along with his cheap home heating oil. . . .
    My preference still is the Dragunov, chambering a 7.62 54 mm round. . .it has an energy load of approximately 4000 joules as opposed to the 1900 joules for the 5.56 mm. round.

  48. 67

    RightEqualsStupid spews:

    More bad news for Rep. Jerry Lewis (R-CA). Tonight, Tom Casey, former CEO of now-defunct software company Audre Inc., told NBC News that in 1993 Lewis asked for stock and favors for his friend, lobbyist Bill Lowery, in exchange for a multi-million-dollar earmark:

    Casey tells NBC News that after he made campaign contributions to House members of both parties, Lewis informed him the Pentagon would get $14 million for the testing, and that Casey even could write the language.
    Lisa Myers: You were allowed to write language for an appropriations bill yourself?

    Casey: Yes, I did. That was Congressman Lewis’ suggestion.

    Casey says Lewis repeatedly urged him to hire a lobbyist, former U.S. Rep. Bill Lowery, Lewis’ close friend, and when that didn’t happen, pressed for another favor.

    Casey: Congressman Lewis asked me to set up stock options for Bill Lowery in our company.

    Casey says Lewis suggested he issue the stock options in Canada — in someone else’s name.

  49. 68

    pewma spews:

    Yes, Smegmac, murder is a sin, but what is even worse is that the murderer occassionally DESTROYS PROPERTY in the course of the murders!

  50. 69

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Ann Coulter is the Larry Flynt of political smut, and anyone who reads Coulter’s political porn is a pervert.

  51. 70

    Roger Rabbit spews:


    Reporters have to be “objective” and report both sides of a controversy — even if one side is totally wrong.

  52. 71

    Richard Pope spews:

    FOR and RE: Commentby Richard Pope— 6/7/06@ 9:46 pm

    Interesting insight…

    Closing the Books on CA 50

    Commentby howcanyoubePROUDtobeanASS— 6/7/06@ 10:16 pm

    CA 50 could be in danger in November 2006. The special election occurred when all the party primaries were being held. 27% of the voters in CA 50 are registered independent or 3rd party, 29% Democrat, and 44% Republican. Presumably, the Democrat and GOP turnout yesterday was considerably higher — as a % of their registration — than that of independent and 3rd party voters.

    Bilbray got only 1,000 more votes than the number of people who voted in the GOP primary that was also held yesterday. Either a lot of Republicans didn’t vote for Bilbray, or he got practically zero votes among voters who weren’t registered Republicans.

    Increase the turnout rate of independents and 3rd party voters to the same as that of Democrats and Republicans in November, and Bilbray could be in a lot of trouble in a rematch.

  53. 72

    Richard Pope spews:

    How did you get pictures of Byrd’s last victory party? Man I hope they dont have the one of me and uncle Ted with the waitress. Yikes!!

    Commentby RUFUS Fitzgerald Kennedy— 6/7/06@ 9:52 pm

    KKK Byrd was one of only two Democrats to vote against gay marriage today in the U.S. Senate. The other was Senator Nelson of Nebraska.

  54. 73

    Richard Pope spews:

    anyone who reads Coulter’s political porn is a pervert.

    Commentby Roger Rabbit— 6/7/06@ 10:50 pm

    The only time I ever read Coulter is when Goldy’s posts it on Horse’s Ass. What Goldy does in the privacy of the bedroom is his own business.

  55. 74

    REP Pat Kennedy [D-Bitchslap the Black Security Guard At LAX] spews:


  56. 75

    RUFUS Fitzgerald Kennedy spews:


    But then again rape between democrats establishes the social hierarchy. You know like President vs intern or public school teacher vs student. A very important tool in the modern democratic society.

  57. 77

    Roger Rabbit spews:


    The following is quoted from Juanita Broaddrick’s sworn affidavit:

    “4. During the 1992 Presidential campaign there were unfounded rumors and stories circulated that Mr. Clinton had made unwelcome sexual advances toward me in the late seventies. Newspaper and tabloid reporters hounded me and my family, seeking corroboration of these tales. I repeatedly denied the allegations and requested that my family’s privacy be respected. These allegations are untrue and I had hoped that they would no longer haunt me, or cause further disruption to my family.”


  58. 78

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    From Wikipedia:

    “According to Jack Nelson, Washington bureau chief of the Los Angeles Times, … “This is a story that’s been knocked down and discredited so many times …. Everyone’s taken a slice of it, and after looking at it, everyone’s knocked it down. The woman has changed her story about whether it happened. It just wasn’t credible.” Joe Conason and Gene Lyon’s book “The Hunting of the President” argued that Broaddrick’s claim is not credible and contains numerous inconsistencies. In contrast, Michael Isikoff’s book “Uncovering Clinton” and Christopher Hitchens’ book “No One Left to Lie To” both argue that Broaddrick’s claim is credible.” (footnote omitted) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juanita_Broaddrick

  59. 79

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Leave it to idiots like JCH and Dufus to uncritically swallow Broaddrick’s allegations. Hey JCH — I “accuse” you of whacking off at your keyboard! Because I “accused” you of it, it must be true.

  60. 81

    Richard Pope spews:


    BAGHDAD, Iraq — Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, the al-Qaida-linked militant who led a bloody campaign of suicide bombings, kidnappings and hostage beheadings in Iraq, has been killed in a U.S. air raid north of Baghdad, Iraq’s prime minister said Thursday.

    Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki said al-Zarqawi was killed Wednesday evening along with seven aides.

    The Jordanian-born militant, who was believed to have personally beheaded at least two American hostages, became Iraq’s most wanted militant, as notorious as Osama bin Laden, to whom he swore allegiance in 2004. The United States had put a $25 million bounty on al-Zarqawi, the same as bin Laden.


  61. 83

    JoeBob spews:

    If you’re sick of the right wing, anti-semitic, and racist blowhards on this board (Mr. Cynical, RUFUS, JCH/REP, MTR, Puddy, etc) take a moment to remember Rev. Dale Turner, who showed us that not all Christians are creeps, and that many people of faith really do care about all mankind http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/.....bit08.html

    Too bad all the fake Christians who hang out at SP will mever have a clue as to what Jesus’ true message was. Rev. Turner figured it out before many of these phoney “movement” conservatives were born.

    Oh well, war, poverty and discrimination all seem to come a lot more naturally for the Sharkansky-Bush KKKult.

  62. 84

    JoeBob spews:

    Yeah, Richard. It would be “mission accomplished” if it wasn’t for the fact that everytime we kill one hapless al-Zarqawi, another five competent terrorists rise up. Real effective (like most of the stuff you post)

    Keep feeding the racist bigots like Mr. Cynical, though. These cretins are starving for (fake) good news lately!

  63. 85

    LeftTurn spews:

    FACT. The world would be safer if we’d never gone to Iraq. We had less to fear from Iraq when Sadaam was in power. Now we’ve created a haven for terror that will most certainly end up with attacks on our soil, something that would have NEVER happened if Baby Bush had followed his own father’s advice. Papa Bush said to stay out of Iraq. Baby Bush didn’t listen. Now we’re all at risk. When the terrorists make their way here, and believe me they will, I hope they start with Ann Coulter’s neighborhood.

  64. 86

    Harry Tuttle spews:

    The loons over at (un)SP have been packed a County Council
    meeting Monday with Republicans and Greens bemoaning the move to vote-by-mail. The vote on the measure was held until June 19 so
    that Dean Logan can appear to answer questions.

    Logan appears to remain tone deaf in regard to dealing with voter unrest, and was not present June 5. He was either in Spokane, or on vacation, or his dermatologist — somewhere. The school of minnows have made much of his absence.

    Dow Constantine, my councilman, hit the nail on the head, however.

    “I think that’s a bunch of right-wing blog nonsense,” he said. “I think what’s important is the answers he gives when he appears before the council.”

  65. 87

    Harry Tuttle spews:

    Those loon packed the meeting. The may have been packed at the time, but I have no evidence of that.

  66. 88

    Janet S spews:

    LT – a true American doesn’t hope that a fellow American is killed by terrorists. It is truly pathetic that you wish harm to those who share the same freedom of speech that you have, and that are guaranteed by our unique system. Do I question your patriotism? No, just your moral and ethical core.

  67. 89

    PBJ_returns spews:

    Hey you traitorcrat liberal socialists – Al Zarcawi is DEAD. TERMINATED. Yet another VICTORY by GEORGE W BUSH, the ONLY one who fights for America instead of surrendering to the terrorists.

    I will leave you traitors to mourn for your dead terrorist comrade.

  68. 90

    PBJ_returns spews:

    No Janet, what is truly pathetic is liberal socialist traitors who say they “support the troops” yet block the ports sending them the vital supplies they need.

    Face it. Liberals are traitors.

  69. 91

    Roger Rabbit spews:


    Why should Bush get credit for Al-Zarqawi’s death? This operation was carried out by military and intelligence personnel who have been hampered all along by Bush’s policies of inadequate troop levels, interference with intelligence analysis, and so on. One has to ask whether Al-Zarqawi wouldn’t have been killed long ago — or whether his organization would ever have gotten off the ground — if we’d had a more competent political administration.

  70. 92

    Roger Rabbit spews:


    Hey dummy, take some remedial reading classes, then come back and try reading this board again. None of the liberals posting here endorsed the antics of the Olympia protesters.

  71. 93

    Roger Rabbit spews:


    Janet — if you’re so concerned about ethics, why have you been silent about Coulter publicly calling for the deaths of Supreme Court justices and virtually every Democrat in the country, you fucking hypocrite? Unfuck yourself, Janet.

  72. 94

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    88 (continued)

    I’m always amused by who wingfucks like Janet S. howl, wail, gnash their teeth, and cry when they get a teeny dose of their own medicine dished back to them. What a bunch of crybabies.

  73. 95

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Al-Zarqawi is a good start on making the world a better place; now let’s follow up with some airstrikes against wingnut blowhards.

  74. 96

    Harry Tuttle spews:

    As Coroner I must aver, I thoroughly examined her.
    And she’s not only merely dead, she’s really most sincerely dead.

    — “Ding! Dong! The Witch is Dead”, Wizard of Oz

    This guy has been “killed” so many times before, they had to have the Prime Minister, photos and DNA evidence this time.

  75. 97

    Roger Rabbit spews:


    Just kidding, ha-ha. No, wait, I’m serious — wait, no, I’m not — whatsamatter can’t you fuckers take a joke, no sense of humor.

  76. 98

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    98 (continued)

    Wingnuts — how about if I wiggle my cute cottontail for you, then you can lick it! For a good time, call 1-800-RRABBIT.

  77. 99

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    74, redux

    Hey JCH, do you know what juries do to witnesses who make statements under oath, then change their stories?

  78. 100

    Roger Rabbit spews:


    What’s the mission, Richard? Racking up a body count is neither a mission nor an accomplishment. Nobody ever won a war by attriting the enemy — for every one you kill, there’s two or four or six replacements.

    What, exactly, is the “mission” in Iraq? Is there one?

  79. 101

    Roger Rabbit spews:


    The U.S. currently has upwards of 130,000 troops in Iraq to:

    [ ] 1. Capture Saddam Hussein, who is still at large; the guy in custody is a double.
    [ ] 2. Find the WMDs, which are still buried in the desert somewhere, including dozens of nuclear warheads, ICBMs, long-range bombers, and missile-launching submarines.
    [ ] 3. Grab the oil, which recently has been gushing out of the wells, into the pipelines … and onto the ground.
    [ ] 4. Install a democratic government, which will not be considered accomplished until Iraqi Republicans completely control the executive, legislative, and judicial branches and all the imams are guys who were hand-picked by a committee consisting of Ken Mehlman, Karl Rove, and Dick Cheney.
    [ ] 5. Keep the war going for as long as possible, because war is good for business, and generates profits for insiders who own large chunks of stock in Pentagon contractors.

  80. 102

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Well, I see the stock market is tanking today again, as investors focus on rising interest rates.

  81. 103

    Roger Rabbit spews:


    High interest rates, high unemployment, and high inflation are caused by:

    [ ] 1. Random lightning strikes
    [ ] 2. Liberals
    [ ] 3. Ted Bundy
    [ ] 4. Fiscally irresponsible presidents who spend like crazy, borrow like crazy, print paper money like crazy, cut taxes like crazy, and whose economic policies are crazy.

  82. 104

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Roger Rabbit has posted 100% of the last eight comments. If you don’t like it, you can:

    [ ] 1. Fuck an armadillo
    [ ] 2. Fuck yourself
    [ ] 3. Fuck Janet S
    [ ] 4. Fuck Dick Cheney
    [ ] 5. All of the above

  83. 105

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    88, revisited

    Hey Janet — in your world of moral certainty, is it okay for a true American like Pat Robertson to hope that a fellow American (e.g., a Supreme Court justice) is killed by God?

    Does the morality of wishing death upon someone depend on whether the killing is done by God, or by a terrorist? Does it make a difference whether the terrorist is an atheist, or a devout Christian like, say, the Crusaders were?

    Just wondering where you moralists are on this one. Since you’re an expert on ethics, this question should be easy for you.

  84. 106

    Mr. Cynical spews:

    Hey Goldy—why not discuss LIAR Logan–
    Didn’t I tell y’all Dean Logan is a LIAR!!
    Thank you Keith…for doin’ yer job!

    Where’s Logan? Stories change
    By Keith Ervin

    Seattle Times staff reporter

    Where was elections chief Dean Logan on Monday when the Metropolitan King County Council debated a historic proposal to conduct elections by mail?

    His staff at first said he was attending a statewide election administrators’ conference in Spokane.

    Then they said he was working, somewhere, on something.

    He was actually out of town on vacation, as Logan confirmed by e-mail Wednesday.

    Some council members grumbled about his absence Monday when the assistants substituting for him were unable to answer questions raised by citizens and council members. An expected vote was delayed for two weeks in order to hear Logan’s responses to those questions.

    If adopted by the County Council, the ordinance promoted by Logan and his boss, County Executive Ron Sims, will make King County the largest local jurisdiction in the country to conduct elections almost entirely by mail.

    But the changing stories about the reasons for Logan’s absence appeared to undermine the credibility that he had rebuilt since the problem-plagued 2004 gubernatorial election.

    Logan told the County Council by e-mail last Friday he couldn’t attend the Monday meeting, explaining that he would be at the Spokane elections conference “most of next week.” Election administrators said Monday that he was at the conference.

    But on Tuesday, Jonathan Bechtle of the Evergreen Freedom Foundation pointed out that the conference didn’t begin until Tuesday, the day after the County Council meeting.

    A spokeswoman for Sims, when asked where Logan was, responded on Tuesday and again on Wednesday morning that he was “working away from the office.” She offered no details on where he was or what work he was doing.

    Later Wednesday, another Sims spokesman said Logan had taken “personal time” Monday, but had no details.

    Logan e-mailed The Seattle Times on Wednesday that he was on a scheduled trip. When asked to elaborate about the trip, Logan responded that the questions were “offensive and irrelevant.”

    Sims spokesman Sandeep Kaushik said Logan’s trip had been scheduled weeks earlier and that the County Council had postponed its vote on the mail-balloting proposal twice.

    “There wasn’t any intent of his ducking being there or anything of that nature,” Kaushik said. “I think the assumption was the presentation [on mail voting] had been made at an earlier session and that Monday might be something more of a formality.”

    The changing explanations of Logan’s absence upset several council members, who called the vote-by-mail proposal — which would take effect in 2007 — the most important restructuring of elections in county history.

    “Maybe we should hold our next hearing in Kitsap County, where he lives, to make it easier for him to attend,” fumed Councilman Pete von Reichbauer, R-Federal Way.

    “It’s pretty clear to me that when major election issues come up, if Dean Logan can be somewhere else he generally is,” said Reagan Dunn, R-Bellevue.

    Dow Constantine, D-Seattle, said the details of Logan’s absence weren’t that important.

    “I think that’s a bunch of right-wing blog nonsense,” he said. “I think what’s important is the answers he gives when he appears before the council.”

    Those answers have taken on a new importance.

    Until Wednesday, the vote-by-mail proposal seemed like a done deal because it was supported by all five members of the council’s Democratic majority.

    But one of the prime sponsors of the ordinance, Seattle Democrat Bob Ferguson, said he was troubled not only by Logan’s absence (“a serious lapse in judgment”) but also by information presented Monday about staff vacancies Logan has been unable to fill in his office.

    “I have to have confidence that the Elections Department has the resources and staff and the ability to make that change. Right now I’m not sure if I believe that’s the case,” Ferguson said.

  85. 107

    Roger Rabbit spews:


    Janet S is a

    [ ] 1. two-faced
    [ ] 2. hypocritical
    [ ] 3. idiotic
    [ ] 4. blowhard
    [ ] 5. paid troll
    [ ] 6. all of the above

  86. 108

    Roger Rabbit spews:


    Hey Cynical, here’s a proposal for you. Let’s send Dean Logan to Ohio and give Ken Blackwell a contract to train Logan in the fine points of election administration, to help Logan be guilty of all the stuff you guys accuse him of.

  87. 110

    klake spews:

    1. FACT. The world would be safer if we’d never gone to Iraq. We had less to fear from Iraq when Sadaam was in power. Now we’ve created a haven for terror that will most certainly end up with attacks on our soil, something that would have NEVER happened if Baby Bush had followed his own father’s advice. Papa Bush said to stay out of Iraq. Baby Bush didn’t listen. Now we’re all at risk. When the terrorists make their way here, and believe me they will, I hope they start with Ann Coulter’s neighborhood.
    Commentby LeftTurn— 6/8/06@ 6:41 am
    LeftTurn you have a mind of a defeatist and the President did not stay out of Iraq. The problem he made was not finishing the job the first time. You also forgot Sept 11 2001 those folks were not our local home grown terrorists and their object has not changed. The next neighborhood they set up camp in will more than likely be Bagdad Jim McDermott. The other bad news for you is that they are already living here and probably making plans to enhance your personal fears. The biggest risks that this nation is not from the terrorist but folks like you who cannot control your own personnel emollition and fears. We in the military call that the Chicken Little syndrome (the sky is falling! the sky is falling!). The other piece of bad news is that they respect Ann Coulter’s more than folks like yourself. The other theory is folks like you are a greater threat to them than this Nation Military or any Christian groups. They base that on the many attacks that your friends make on the military and their Christian supporters. They do not want to be your next victim. They see your hatred for President Bush and your willingness to abandoned the troops and encourage treason just to get even for your emotional loss. This nation has made major changes in the world the last forty years and some folks really did not buy into the plan. That is probability the root cause for the many problems in this world. That would be the case no matter who was the major power leading other Nations into the future.

  88. 111

    ArtFart spews:

    RE: Klake’s great wondrous screed in post #112 above

    There are some who would see some degree of irony in people supporting the military in the name of Christ.

  89. 112

    Puddybud Robert Kennedy Jr. spews:

    Hey Rabbit Pellet and all other Northwest Division of Lunatic Moonbats: Since you “know”, JCH’s name see if he lives in Pahoa, HI. IF he does then you all need to shut up! If he doesn’t then carry on in the moonbat fashion!

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I just finished listening to the whole thing, I have to say it was thoroughly enjoyable. And I almost forgot… special thanks once again to Richard and Gavin for producing the show; I also highly recommend their own podcast, The Confab Show.


  1. 113

    REV Jesse [JCH] Jackson spews:

    “For you will die a thousand deaths, and I will only die but once.” [GBS, You are NOT the Valiant! You are Hillary!!!!!!!!]

  2. 114

    GBS spews:


    If I were faced with these two choices I would take B over A any day of the week.

    A) Naval Officer who WASHED-OUT of flight school and became a Supply Officer in the Gator Navy.


    B) Enlisted man who became a SEAL.

    B) Has no shame, and really has NO REGRETS.

    Whereas A) means having to live your whole life knowing you couldn’t hack it where other men succeeded. Always wondering “what if I were good enough? What could I have done?”

    Death before dishonor. JCH, you will never fully know the meaning of that creed. For you will die a thousand deaths, and I will only die but once.

    BTW, you were clearly caught lying about living in Hawaii. Now, everyone knows you’re an unqualified liar. You have ZERO credibility. The best part is; I’m the one who destroyed you.


  3. 115

    REV Jesse [JCH] Jackson spews:

    Too hot for GBS [aka Hillary] here!! He is probably eating lunch [alone] at the local Denny’s, crying in his cherry coke!! GBS laments, “Why couldn’t I be the officer? Why can’t I be the one in charge? Life is soooooooooo unfair!! I’m old and ugly and I’m still a SHITBIRD! I couldn’t even make it on Horsesass.com!”

  4. 117

    GBS spews:

    82. Au Revoir, Hillary!!! Dinner time!!!

    Comment by REV Jesse [JCH] Jackson— 2/23/06 @ 5:04 pm

    83. Dinner time? In Hawaii?


    Comment by GBS— 2/23/06 @ 5:04 pm

    84. A little early isn’t it? I mean for dinner?

    It’s only 3:05 in Hawaii.

    Dinner, you sure?

    Or are you in Kent?

    Comment by GBS— 2/23/06 @ 5:06 pm

    Hey there WASHOUT liar. It’s 9:12 am must be LUNCH TIME?

  5. 118

    REV Jesse [JCH] Jackson spews:

    GBS Update: He has been driven from HorsesAss like a Muslim from a Pork Bar-B-Q!!!!!

  6. 119

    Rev. A.A. Tappman: Anababtist spews:

    [JCH] is the best advertisement for condom use that we could hope for.

  7. 121

    REV Jesse [JCH] Jackson spews:

    151….Ah, The truth shall set you free!!! Captain’s Mast!!! And violations of the UCMJ!! Now I see that the bitterness is still around, Clarice, errrr, Hillary!! I see the chip on your shoulder is a bitter one!! Any you lied about your punishment, as any “E Man” who strikes a commissioned officer would get a little brig time. Or did you just “wiff” him, “Brokeback Mountain” style????? So bitter, for soooooooooooo long!! And the Captain shit on you because you were a shitbird!!!!!!!!!! SHITBIRD, Hillary!!!!!!!!!! And while all the real SEALs were enjoying Pattaya Beach, YOU were restricted and pulling extra duty!!! E3 SHITBIRD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  8. 122

    REV Jesse [JCH] Jackson spews:

    Spent a few weeks in Bangkok and “Padia” Beach.[ Errrrr, E-6 Hillary, Would that be Pattaya Beach? ROTFLMAO!!!! “Padia”!!!! Spell much, Hillary????? Any yes, I was there!!!!!!!! “Padia”!!!!!!!!! Classic!!!!!!!!!!!]

  9. 123

    GBS spews:

    @ 149

    Yep, it was a Captain’s Mast, if you must know. Let’s just say I never wore ‘gold’ hash marks or insignia’s on my dress uniforms.

    As it turns out, officers don’t like getting their asses kicked in a bars, even the ones off base. Unbeknownst to me, officers stick together. Even if the one getting his ass kicked was a Captain in the Marines who made the mistake of thinking Marines were tougher than any and ALL sailors.

    Went from frocked E-5 to E-3. 45 days restriction, 45 days extra duty, fined one months pay spread over two months.

    Was I pissed? Sure. But not for the reduction in rank, or the fines, or the extra duty; I could handle that. I resented the skipper not understanding my side of defending the honor of the Navy. Apparently, in his mind, striking an officer (repeatedly) was worse.


    All Pussies, like birds of a feather, stick together. Weren’t you an officer? You pussy. I know in the Gator Navy, the Marines and Sailors go at it constantly. Tell us, when the Marines ran their mouths what did you do?

    I know what you did, you’re tail went right between your legs, you squatted on the deck and pissed a little puddle, didn’t you!! Never once did you take you officer’s cap off and challenged a Marine, did you?

    You pussy. No wonder you said the Marines on your ship were better men than you. Because they were. It’s pussies like you that give the Navy a bad name.

  10. 125

    REV Jesse [JCH] Jackson spews:

    Weren’t you in the Navy a little too long to only achieve E-6? Was the Chief test just a little to tough? Hell, many “E Men” walk out of “A” School an “E-5″. You made only one promotion? Perhaps a couple little problems? Drinking? Dope? UA? Article 95s? Captain’s Masts? Yes, I can see you might have had a few “attitude problems”. Sadly, you have not adjusted well. You still still to waste your days “getting back” at those evil officers who gave you “Top 30%” evals. Still bitter, GBS? Yes, you are!

  11. 140

    REV Jesse [JCH] Jackson spews:

    One post by JCH, and GBS again NEEDS to respond with 6!! Not a record, but close!! Swallow, GBS!!! Swallow!!

  12. 141

    REV Jesse [JCH] Jackson spews:

    On your knees with Cougar, boy!! You two gay libs Dems could share the “Brokeback Mountain” lead!!! You could dress like cowboys!!! GBS, you would be sooooooooo happy with Cougar!!

  13. 149

    GBS spews:


    I mean really, it’s well known on this blog that I never attended college, just ask Puddybud sometime.

    But, Holy Shit loser, how is it you managed to get through college and not know you can end a sentence with a preposition?


  14. 150

    GBS spews:

    Penn State alumni:
    Baaaa haaa haaaa haaaa, yeah right.

    What about the grammar rule that says you cannot end a sentence with a preposition? Did you find it?

    Baaaa haaaa haaaa.

    What a waste of a college education!!

  15. 151

    GBS spews:

    C’mon, Blog Bitch, tell the truth now. Was I close at 113. Yes or No?

    Tell us what your true feeling were when you offically learned you weren’t going to be a Naval Aviator — to never perform the “carrier break.”

    What were you’re feelings?

  16. 152

    REV Jesse [JCH] Jackson spews:

    I’m in your head, GBS! You just can’t seem to take it! You are weak! You are the prison bitch! Like the rest of you lib Democrats, you are all “victims”! [GBS responses: “It MUST be someone else’s fault that I’m a loser pawn. Hell, If JCH can make it, why can’t I?? It’s just not fair!! We need to tax JCH even more!”]

  17. 153

    GBS spews:

    C’mon, JCH, time for you to ‘man-up’.

    What was your ‘major malfunction’ in flight school?

    BTW, was I close at 113, Blog Bitch?

  18. 154

    GBS spews:

    Blog Bitch:

    What about ending a sentence with a preposition? Can you back up your claim that it’s against any rules in English?

    Hmmmmmmmm. . . WASHOUT, can you back it up?

  19. 155

    REV Jesse [JCH] Jackson spews:

    GBS, Were you a “pawn” in the Navy? And today, still a “pawn”? Life isn’t fair, is it? [hehe]

  20. 157

    REV Jesse [JCH] Jackson spews:

    GBS, I OWN YOU!!!! LIKE A PRISON BITCH!! I’m in your head and you are a total fucking mess!!!!!!

  21. 161

    REV Jesse [JCH] Jackson spews:

    GBS, RR, and you liberal parasite Democrats: Today is Kennedy’s birthday, as he turns 74. [Mary Jo was not available to wish the Senator a “Happy Birthday!]

  22. 162

    GBS spews:

    JCH #1 Blog Bitch:

    Is this how the conversation went the day you told your mother you’re address was changing from Naval Air Station, Pensacola, FL to FPO San Diego?

    “Hi, Mom, it’s **sniff** it’s me, JCH.”

    “Oh, Hello honey, how are things in Florida? Let me get your father on the phone, he’s out in the front lawn bragging to the neighbors about you.”

    “No, no Mom, don’t get him. **sniff** **sniff**”

    “Are you crying, JCH? What’s the matter?”

    “I am calling to tell you I have a new mailing address, it’s in Coronado, CA.”

    “OH, my God! I’m so proud of you!! Are you going to the Naval Air Station there??? Isn’t Miramar NAS there, are you going to Top Gun school already!!”

    “**SNIFF SNIFF** No I’m being transferred to a ship.”

    “That’s great honey! Which aircraft carrier are you going to be assigned to?”

    It’s not a carrier, Mom, it’s the, **baaahhh haaaahhhhh haaaah**, the Gator Navy.”

    “What? I don’t understand. Why aren’t you going to a carrier?”

    “Because I WASHED-OUT of ground school, Mom” (more crying)

    “It’ll be OK, JCH, we’re still very proud of you. We know you tried your best and that’s all we can ask of you.”

    “Yeah, Mom, I did try my best so, so, I have no regrets.

    “Your father is coming, I’ll let him know.” (covering the phone with her hand you could hear the muffled conversation.) (JCH, Sr., Jr. washed out of ground school and he’s feeling pretty down, why don’t you talk to him and prop him up a bit.)

    {WHAT?!?!?! I was just BRAGGING to the guys about my son the “NAVY PILOT. Jesus H. Christ I don’t believe this fucking shit!!”}

    (Where are you going? Your son needs your support; NOW!)

    **SLAM** As the front door is slammed by JCH Sr. storming out of the house.

    “JCH, dear, ummmm. . . your father had to leave for work suddenly, they just called and had an emergency at the sewer plant.”

    “What? What do you mean, Mom? We’ve been on the phone.”

    “Oh, I mean, right before you called. Yes, that’s it. You know how angry your father gets when they call him in to unclog the shit out of the pipes at the sewer plan. I’m sure he’ll talk to you tomorrow.”

    “OK, mommy I better go now. I have to catch a MAC flight to San Diego so I’ll be sitting with a bunch of military cargo. I’ll call you when I get to California. **Sniffffffffff**”

    “OK, my little fella, you buck up now. You tried your best and your father and I are still proud of you. Really. You’re going to be the best Supply Officer the Navy has ever seen. Right? You’re stil my little tiger.”

    “OK, mommy, thanks. And, I am going to be the best darn Supply Officer. EVER! I swear.”


    Is that fairly accurate, Clarice?

  23. 164

    GBS spews:

    Is this how ground school went for you?

    “God Damn it! Ensign Blog Bitch, do you NOT see that blip on the radar screen??? It’s directly in your six!! You will be shot down in a hostile environment and lose an $30 million dollar aircraft!!”

    “Butter Bars Blog Bitch, you fuck up one more time and I will personally see to it that you WASHOUT of ground school!!”

    “Pack your seabag, Blog Bitch, you’re going from being a naval aviator to the fucking Gator Navy with the fucking Marines. Men who are better than you, Ensign Fuck UP!!”

    Does that about cover it?

  24. 165

    GBS spews:

    Blog Bitch:

    Were you thinking of me again while you were out diving?

    Yeah, you were. Because you’re my Blog Bitch.

  25. 167

    GBS spews:

    @ 105

    No you don’t. You glom on to my words and phrases because you lack ingenuity. That’s why you couldn’t hack it in ground school.

    Blog Bitch.

    Tell us how you washed out of ground school, my Blog Bitch.

  26. 168

    GBS spews:

    Hey, LT Blog Bitch:

    Refute my post at 72, Nittany Lioness.

    Baaa haaa haaa.

    Why do you suck so much? Is it your DNA?


  27. 169

    REV Jesse [JCH] Jackson spews:

    GBS, I post once, you respond with 5 or 6 posts. You are just another prison bitch. I rattle your bars, and you whine and complain!! I OWN YOU!!!

  28. 170

    GBS spews:

    GBS. I can probably still arrange to have you arrested!!

    Now I know you’re full of shit. OK, there “secret agent man” run along. Your mommy has milk and cookies waiting for you and then it’s story time. She’s gonna read you and your failed president favorite book; My Pet Goat.


  29. 171

    GBS spews:

    JCH @ 81

    Sure by an act of congress you were an officer and a gentlemen so you had more rank than me. And you wore skivvies.

    Think about that. [that must really suck.]

  30. 172

    Rev. A.A. Tappman: Anababtist spews:

    re 101: [JCH] is a realpolitic practitioner of communism. He supports a president who sells U.S. property to STATE OWNED BUSINESSES!!

    If that ain’t a closet communist, I don’t know what is.

  31. 173

    REV Jesse [JCH] Jackson spews:

    It’s obvious Hillary has a sense of entitlement to rule not too distanced from the noblesse oblige of feudal times. Her daughter went to Sidwell Friends, a private school in DC. She paid for it (I guess – can’t count on the press to check on anything she did. She managed to get Chelsea’s nanny on the public payroll in ARK perhaps the taxpayer footed the bill for pvt school, too. You’ll neer find out from the press).

    The point of getting Chelsea into Sidwell Friends was so she could meet the “right” people, make the “right” contacts. If Tanika and Tayshaun from the projects could have vouchers that might get them into Sidwell Friends, then what would be the point of sending her Political Princess to a Posh Private school?

    In order to be a Democrat, you have to take the “Hippocritic” Oath. That includes the media who report on bogus TexANG papers but stifle Swift Boat vets’ accusations.

  32. 176

    YO spews:


  33. 177

    Rev. A.A. Tappman: Anababtist spews:

    re 69: You ought to learn more about Woodrow Wilson. I think he was your kind of Democrat.

  34. 178

    Mark The Redneck spews:

    Rabbit – Yer fergetting asset splits and vaginamoney. Adds up quick. Redo yer math. Idiot.

  35. 179

    REV Jesse [JCH] Jackson spews:

    Another single post by JCH, and another 8 response posts by RR and GBS. I own them like they are my jail house bitches!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I say jump, and they say “How high, LT?”

  36. 180

    Roger Rabbit spews:


    “my fucking money that I worked so hard for”

    Kevin — you call what you do “work?”


  37. 182

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Comment on 73

    The sperm that became JCH actually was launched in the 1,250 B.C. summer Olympics, and finally finished the second lap in 1950 — it needed 3,200 years to swim 50 meters.

  38. 183

    Roger Rabbit spews:


    “It goes into detail about the labor laws that big business has flouted for over 25 years. Our wages have been artificially and illegally suppressed, therefore big business owes recompense to labor for their stolen profits. Money stolen from me , you, and your dead grandmother. Comment by headless lucy— 2/22/06 @ 3:04 pm”

    The trial lawyers can fix this by confiscating all of their property.

  39. 184

    Roger Rabbit spews:


    “It was John Dryden, the 17th-century poet and dramatist, who first promulgated the doctrine that a preposition may not be used at the end a sentence.”

    As GBS points out, ending a sentence with a preposition was perfectly acceptable in the King’s English until Dryden came along, who was commissioned to invent some new crimes to hang peasants for. Evidently the nobles felt the King wasn’t hanging enough peasants.

  40. 185

    Roger Rabbit spews:


    “One post by JCH, 8 responses from GBS and RR. Classic!!”

    Why haven’t you hanged yourself yet?

  41. 186

    Roger Rabbit spews:


    “RR has the same problem.”

    I have no dangling preposition problems that can’t be solved by you shoving your head back up the ass you pulled it out of.

  42. 187

    Roger Rabbit spews:


    “I’ve attended a few Drinking Liberally meetings, and believe me, when he’s there, it’s all about Goldy.”

    Were you the squint-eyed College Republican runt with the laptop scrunched up at the corner table?

  43. 188

    Roger Rabbit spews:


    It’s conceivable a judge might have ordered MTR to pay $3,500 – $4,160 per month in child support IF he had threatened to kill the judge AND was a known Al Qaeda terrorist.

  44. 189

    vancouversucks spews:

    Ok MTR. But if you were really as high class as you say you are, you would have said that with a pinky in the air.

  45. 190

    Mark The Redneck spews:

    Loocy – I’m not gonna waste my fucking reading another hate piece against The Greatest President of 20th Century. Didn’t your boy Bubba make all things right? This must be making the moonbat talking points… another moonbat named “Anon” suggested same thing in another thread. Shove it up your ass.

    So “educate” me. Tell me what the fuck a “stolen profit” is. Tell me which corporations are chronic violators of FLSA. I’ll tell you what a “stolen profit” is… it’s kooks like you voting to tax the rich and steal my fucking money that I worked so hard for. The reason you have no money is that you’re a lazy fucking idiot.

  46. 191

    REV Jesse [JCH] Jackson spews:

    Maybe three days in the NAB Coro brig on bread and water might improve your attitude, GBS. I can probably still arrange to have you arrested!!

  47. 193

    REV Jesse [JCH] Jackson spews:

    GBS, The day I was commissioned, I was senior to you on your last day in the military. Think about that. [That must really suck!]

  48. 194

    Oink spews:

    You actually want us to believe you listened to the “WHOLE THING” Mr. Goldstein???? Why kind of human being would have the time or inclination to listen to the “WHOLE THING”???
    A lower low…..or a bit of pandering to your worshippers.

  49. 195

    GBS spews:


    Must support of George W. Bush.
    Must wear tinfoil hats.
    Must be a conservative.
    Must believe all the talking points of the RNC/Fox News.
    Must believe that trusting Muslim corporations to run “port operations” at 6 major US ports poses no threat to national security.
    Must believe borrowing $2 billion dollars a day from foreign governments is a good idea.
    Must believe we are doing a good job protecting the borders, ports and nuclear power plants from terrorist.
    Must believe the War on Terrorism is being prosecuted properly in Afghanistan.
    Must believe the Iraq War was justified by the presence of WMD’s.
    Must believe that “Major Combat Operations” in Iraq have ended.
    Must believe Bill Frist’s diagnosis that Terri Schiavo responds to visual stimuli
    Must believe Jack Abramoff gave money to Democrats.
    Must believe that Scotter Libby and VP Dick Cheney didn’t compromise national security by outing a covert CIA operative.
    Must believe the Katrina Report conclusion is wrong and that we have learned and implemented the lessons of 9/11.

    In general, must be a real dumb ass.

    All interested persons who want to become my next Blog Bitch please leave your posts here. I will reply to those post who meet the qualifications to be my Blog Bitch.

    JCH, you’re still my #1 Blog Bitch.

  50. 198

    GBS spews:


    Did you WASHOUT of flight school because your classmates knew they couldn’t count on you to be their wingman?

    Did they know when it really mattered you couldn’t be counted on.

    Notice how I ended the sentence grammatically correct using a preposition?

    I bet the alumni at Penn State don’t use you as their poster boy, do they?

    Nope. You’re an embarrassment. Like you’re and embarrassment to your momma and your poppa.

  51. 201

    GBS spews:


    Can you imagine how lame your other sperm cell brethren must have been if you were the fastest and best cum shot your daddy could muster?

    WOW! You must come from a long, long, long line of losers.

    Tell us, did your daddy WASHOUT of girl scouts?

    Does your mother have the best moustache in the family?

    Does your genetic composition make you predisposed to failure and washing-out?

  52. 202

    GBS spews:

    The American Heritage® Book of English Usage.
    A Practical and Authoritative Guide to Contemporary English. 1996.

    preposition ending a sentence. It was John Dryden, the 17th-century poet and dramatist, who first promulgated the doctrine that a preposition may not be used at the end a sentence. Grammarians in the 18th century refined the doctrine, and the rule has since become one of the most venerated maxims of schoolroom grammar. But sentences ending with prepositions can be found in the works of most of the great writers since the Renaissance. In fact, English syntax not only allows but sometimes even requires final placement of the preposition, as in We have much to be thankful for or That depends on what you believe in.


    So, WASHOUT now I’ve reinforced why you fail. Your lack of attention to detail. No fighter pilot in the world survives a dogfight by not paying attention to the conditions in his environment. The blip on your radar screen that is directly in your six; that’s bad fucking news. Moron.

    The Navy recognized that you lack the skills required to pay attention for long periods of time and/or the ability to identify, process and prioritize multiple details at once.

    In fact, your lack of attention to detail was soooooooooo bad, that they didn’t even allow you to sit in the back seat of a trainer jet and at least go for a ride.


  53. 203

    GBS spews:

    JCH @ 67:

    You’re demonstrating your lack of knowledge and your piss poor Penn State education. Ending a sentence with a preposition is clearly acceptable in English.

    Sissy boy, this is not Latin we’re speaking here. Although, I can see where you developed your fear and FAILURE complex by being beaten on the knuckles by Mother Superior, leading you to the false impression that there is an English rule that states you cannot end a sentence with a preposition.

    Tell us, Clarice, did you wet yourself frequently when Mother Superior disciplined you?


  54. 204

    Donnageddon spews:

    Bill O’Reilly Nov. 30th, 2005

    These pinheads running around going, “Get out of Iraq now,” don’t know what they’re talking about. These are the same people before Hitler invaded in World War II that were saying, “Ah, he’s not such a bad guy.” They don’t get it.

    Bill O’Rielly Feb 20th, 2006 (3 months later)

    here is the essential problem in Iraq. There are so many nuts in the country — so many crazies — that we can’t control them. And I don’t — we’re never gonna be able to control them. So the only solution to this is to hand over everything to the Iraqis as fast as humanly possible .

    Typical NeoCon wingnut. Flip Flop.

  55. 205

    REV Jesse [JCH] Jackson spews:

    68, Headless Lucy: Karl Marx couldn’t have said it better!! Democrats: Communist parasites

  56. 206

    headless lucy spews:

    MTR: Have you read Dick Meister’s article: “Ronald Reagan’s War on Labor”?

    It goes into detail about the labor laws that big business has flouted for over 25 years. Our wages have been artificially and illegally suppressed, therefore big business owes recompense to labor for their stolen profits. Money stolen from me , you, and your dead grandmother.

  57. 207

    REV Jesse [JCH] Jackson spews:

    [GBS] “Do you know who JCH is handcuffed to? MTR and Mr. Cynical.” [GBS, Ending sentences with prepositions shows a lack of a high school education. RR has the same problem. When you attempt to insult, use proper English. Only junior high school sissy boys would make these mistakes.]

  58. 209

    JDB spews:

    Why would we want Just another Chicken Hawk dead? He is such a great example of everything that is wrong with the Republican party.

    But, since it happens all the time, I wouldn’t mind if he got peppered a few times. But I think that would mean that he would have to leave his room, and his Mom might not like that.

  59. 210

    GBS spews:

    **SNIFF** **SNIFF**

    Smell that?

    That’s the stench of a WASHOUT.

    Hey, JCH, you POS apologist for Bush.

  60. 211

    GBS spews:

    @ 62

    JCH’s mom would have to unchain him from the basement toilet in order for him to leave.

    Do you know who JCH is handcuffed to? MTR and Mr. Cynical.

    The three of them make a heck of a daisy chain.


  61. 212

    GBS spews:


    When are you going to tell us about your attempt to become a Navy pilot?

    What was the first day of flight school like? You did get past DAY 1 in the evolution didn’t you? You know, before you were kicked out.

    Describe to us the first day you arrived in Pensacola, FL and saw the fighter planes that were on display.

    Did you imagine yourself in one of those fighters?
    Did you imagine being in a dogfight with MiG?
    Did you dream that you were victorious in your dogfight?
    Did you see yourself doing death rolls as you flew by the carrier?
    Did you think the President was going to pin the Navy Flying Cross on your chest?
    Did you believe that hot babes were going to be clutching at your arms while you were out on the town?
    Did you visualize your mom & dad, beaming with pride as they watched their son graduate from flight school?
    Did you hope to be Blue Angel #1?

    Yeah, you did.

    Tell us, Clarice, tell us how all your hopes and dreams were dashed when you WASHED-OUT of ground school.

    Did you go to an off-base uniform shop in Pensacola and buy a pair of gold aviator wings?

    Did you put it on your uniform and dream of graduation day.

    Yeah, you did.

    Tell us, Clarice, did you keep your gold wings? Hmmmmm, did you? Do you still have them in your closet?

    Yeah, you do.


  62. 216

    Goldy is a pompous ass spews:

    Gee, the improvment in the Podcast this week came without Goldy. It has never occurred to Goldy that maybe the improvment came in spite of him. I’ve attended a few Drinking Liberally meetings, and believe me, when he’s there, it’s all about Goldy.

  63. 217

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Hmmm … here’s an interesting quote that puts MTR’s social philosophy (and mental illness) in perspective:

    “What kind of people struggle to be billionaires?

    “Some scientists struggle to develop new knowledge; some engineers struggle to develop new products; and some medical doctors struggle to do an excellent job at their practice. These people benefit the world. Some of them become rich as a side effect.

    “But there are also people who struggle for money and fame with no apparent concern for how they achieve the money or fame. They do not seem to care if the money comes from abusing people, abusing laws, or deceiving customers. They do not seem to care if their money comes from bribery, murder, marrying wealthy people, or making friends with people simply to take advantage of them. These people are a nuisance because the world does not benefit from their actions.

    “To rephrase that, some people become rich as a side effect of the wonderful work they do for the world, while some other people become rich because money was their primary goal, and if the world benefits from them, it is an inadvertent side effect of their attempt to become rich.

    “I would say that people who struggle for money with no concern for how they get it are suffering from an emotional disorder; ie, a defective brain. I suspect that they wonder why they are so miserable, and they come to the silly conclusion that if they could become rich and famous then we will love them, and they will become happy, and they will have friends. Hollywood and politics seems to attract large numbers of these people.

    “There are millions of unhappy people struggling to become rich. These people are searching for what we might describe as the mythical ‘Fountain Of Happiness’. But no matter how much money they get, they are still the same miserable person they were when they were poor, so they struggle to get even more money on the assumption that they do not have enough. But because they are not concerned with where they get the money, they often create trouble for the rest of society. Ideally, if we are going to allow people to become rich, we should try to ensure that people can become rich only as a side effect of the beneficial work they do.”


  64. 218

    Mr. X spews:

    “If it did, that would also wipe out Mr. Cynical, Janet S, prr, MTR, righton, Sven, and all the rest of Kevin Carnes’ identities.”

    You say that like it’s a bad thing!

  65. 219

    GBS spews:

    RR @ 46:

    I’d have to research the archives, but essentially MTR and his wife divorced and she got custody. Before his daughter reached the age of adulthood his ex wife O.D. on drugs, I believe it was meth although unimportant to the underlying lie of paying $500,000 in child support, or as MTR said: vagimony. After his ex’s death he was awarded custody of his daughter.

    Bottom line is we’re talking about a marriage, a pregnancy, a birth, MTR being a jerk-off husband and father, a divorce, a death and a father retaining custody of their child.

    I can’t say with 100% certainty how long MTR paid child support, but is sure as hell wasn’t 18 years. Maximum time frame I’m guessing is 10-12 years, MAX.

    Bunny calculator says that between $3,500 – $4,160 a month in child support. For one child.

    Smells like bullshit, must be bullshit.

  66. 220

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    JCH — it’s not as hard as it sounds … all you need is an old necktie, a basement pipe, and a chair.

  67. 221

    Roger Rabbit spews:


  68. 225

    Roger Rabbit spews:


    “Wouldn’t it be great if JCH just up and killed itself?”

    If it did, that would also wipe out Mr. Cynical, Janet S, prr, MTR, righton, Sven, and all the rest of Kevin Carnes’ identities.

  69. 229

    Roger Rabbit spews:


    “37, Boy, that would cost the Democrats a few hundred thousand votes!
    Comment by REV Jesse [JCH] Jackson— 2/22/06 @ 12:15 pm”

    We’ll be fine if the military votes are counted. See post #43.

  70. 230

    Roger Rabbit spews:


    “According to your bunny calculator it is mathematically impossible to reach the $500,000 plateau even if he paid for 18 years. Which we know by MTR’s own admission was not the case due to the young age his daughter was when his ex wife killed herself.”

    I didn’t know MTR said his ex killed herself. I musta missed that post. I understand why someone married to MTR would kill herself, although I think it’s more likely that he stoned her to death for not wearing her burkha to the grocery store.

    Anyway, my question is, if his daughter’s mother is dead — why is MTR paying child support? If he’s the child’s only living parent, the court would give him custody — unless he’s in prison or there were child abuse complaints against him.

  71. 232

    GBS spews:

    MTR’s new lover, JCH wrote:

    Funny thing about dictators and tyrants: Very often they are meticulous record keepers.

    Besides record keeping they’re notorious liars, too, like Bush, conservatives in general and specifically, MTR.

    Now that Bush was caught selling American port operations to the enemy, without his knowledge (thanks for keeping us safe W, NOT)the RNC Fox News noise machine just tell the lie that there were WMD’s in Iraq.

    Piss ants like JCH just can’t wait to jizz all over that talking point and parrot it about to deflect attention away from the sale 6 major US port operations to a Muslim country!

    Those ports under Arab control better hope that some longshoremen doesn’t post one of those cartoons of Mohammed in the shitter. Otherwise, their faith dictates that they must retaliate.

    Hmmmmm. . . I wonder which member of the Bin Laden family would be interested in gaining information regarding US port operations??

    Gee, with that knowledge you could exploit a weakness in port security that nobody else had though of yet.

    The Bush family is loyal to the to the Bin Laden family. No doubt about it. JCH is loyal to Bush. JCH and Bush are loyal to Arabs terrorists.


  72. 233

    Skylar Vandergrift spews:

    Christina Hoff Sommers is a righteous lady! We’re lucky to have her a the American Enterprise Institute combating feminist political correctness.

  73. 235

    GBS spews:

    Roger Rabbit:

    Thank you for your in-depth knowledge of the legal facts. Now that we are able to mull over the facts, it’s clear to see that MTR is intentionally misleading everyone on the blog regarding his claim of paying $500,000 in child support.

    MTR said he had only ONE child; a daughter.

    According to your bunny calculator it is mathematically impossible to reach the $500,000 plateau even if he paid for 18 years. Which we know by MTR’s own admission was not the case due to the young age his daughter was when his ex wife killed herself.

    In summary we find that the defendant, MTR, is guilty of lying.

    Why is it that doesn’t surprise me? Because he’s a conservative! They can’t help but to lie.

    What did we learn today?
    Divorce = not funny
    Single parent = not funny
    Paying child support = not funny

    Getting caught lying about paying $500,000 in child support = HILARIOUS

    Priceless, MTR, thanks for letting us laugh at your expense. RAKEFACE!!!

    Hey, maybe you and JCH can get together in “Hawaii” (Kent) and wallow in your sorrows. You know, you paying a half million in child support and JCH can tell you about his days being in the Blue Angels.

    Haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa
    haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa

    Ahhhhhh, man, I gotta go wipe the tears from my eyes I’m laughing so hard at these lying liar, losers.


  74. 236

    Roger Rabbit spews:


    “OLYMPIA, Wash. – Washington voters would have to prove they are U.S. citizens and re-register to vote under an initiative that supporters say they will file this week.” http://www.king5.com/localnews.....1441e.html

    We’ll see how many people will vote to inconvenience themselves. Bet this turkey doesn’t even make it onto the ballot.

  75. 239

    Roger Rabbit spews:


    The fact you disagree with the prevailing view that the earth is round doesn’t make it flat.

  76. 240

    Roger Rabbit spews:


    I can also see how someone who makes a very good living from cooking meth in illegal meth labs would oppose environmental laws that impose cleanup costs on those who created the mess ….

  77. 241

    Roger Rabbit spews:


    “the law is broadly worded enough that a judge could use his discretion to stick it to a high-income parent who, for example, threatens to kill the judge and blow up the courthouse.”

    That is, if the judge were clever enough to disguise his real motive in carefully chosen written findings of fact. A judge who was caught using high child support payments to punish a parent for bad behavior who have his order reversed by a higher court for “abuse of discretion.” The proper legal remedy for a parent who threatens to kill the judge and blow up the courthouse is to hold hold him in contempt and throw his ass in jail. But then he won’t be able to work, or pay his child support, and it costs money to keep people in jail, so judges usually don’t do anything about this kind of behavior.

  78. 242

    Roger Rabbit spews:


    The more I think about it … remember MTR posted he has “skills” that his “employer” finds very valuable? Yes, I can see how someone who knows how to cook meth could make a lot of money … until he gets caught ….

  79. 243

    Roger Rabbit spews:


    “Roger – You know the story. I’m free now. Meth solved all my problems. Comment by Mark The Redneck— 2/22/06 @ 10:49 am”

    Hmmm … this can be interpreted a couple of ways … either you’re higher than a kite, or you make your alleged income by manufacturing meth.

  80. 244

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Under Washington’s current tax system, as income goes higher, the percentage of total income paid in state and local taxes goes down.

  81. 246

    Roger Rabbit spews:


    No one pays 100% of their income for state services, least of all the wealthy. Those paying the highest percentage of their income for state services are those in the bottom 20% income bracket.

  82. 247

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Reply to 18

    “If that’s true, how did MTR manage to pay $500,000 in child support? As he has claimed.”

    The possibilities are

    [ ] 1. MTR is lying,
    [ ] 2. MTR has a lot of kids, or
    [ ] 3. MTR pissed off the judge

    … take your pick.

    If you check out RCW 26.19.020 at http://apps.leg.wa.gov/RCW/def.....=26.19.020, you’ll see the child support schedule is “advisory” above $5000 a month and only goes up to $7000 a month.

    The statute says, “When combined monthly net income exceeds seven thousand dollars, the court may set support at an advisory amount of support set for combined monthly net incomes between five thousand and seven thousand dollars or the court may exceed the advisory amount of support set for combined monthly net incomes of seven thousand dollars upon written findings of fact.”

    If income exceeds 7k, the judge COULD set it higher. This is really aimed at children with special needs, such as a child with cerebral palsy, but the law is broadly worded enough that a judge could use his discretion to stick it to a high-income parent who, for example, threatens to kill the judge and blow up the courthouse.

    If MTR has 5 or more children, the “advisory” range of support is $483 to $583 a month for each child. My Bunny Calculator tells me that if MTR and his ex had quintuplets and split when the kids were 2 years old, he COULD owe more than $500,000 of support:

    5 children x $583 x 12 months x 16 years = $559,680

    My Bunny Calculator tells me

  83. 248

    Mark The Redneck spews:

    Uh huh… I disagree with you and your ilk. Therefore I am dumass. By definition. That’s small on YOUR part. That’s arrogant on YOUR part.

  84. 249

    REV Jesse [JCH] Jackson spews:

    BUSH was right!!!!!!!! Democrats are traitors and need to be shot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  85. 250

    proud leftist spews:

    When referring to Cheney’s “stubbornness,” arrogance is what is meant. That attribute is one which you share with the good VP. Your posts suggest that you are afflicted with certainty. Certainty is a mark of small minds and of people who fear the world around them. These people demand answers even when no answers are available. The degree of your arrogance betrays you as an absolute idiot.

  86. 251

    REV Jesse [JCH] Jackson spews:

    John Shaw, former deputy undersecretary of defense for international technology security, told the conference that former Russian intelligence boss Yevgeny Primakov went to Iraq in December 2002 to supervise WMD transfers into Syria.

    According to Georges Sada, Saddam’s No. 2 Air Force officer, two Iraqi Airways Boeing jets were converted to cargo planes and moved the WMD to Syria in a total of 56 flights six weeks before the war. The flights were disguised as part of a relief effort after a Syrian dam collapsed in 2002.

    So what is on the media’s mind? Not Saddam’s secrets, but those of Vice President Dick Cheney — as evidenced by his failure to notify the Washington press corps immediately after his hunting accident. That subject graced the covers of both Time and Newsweek and preoccupied the weekend talk shows. [Democrats: Traitors and parasites!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!]

  87. 253

    REV Jesse [JCH] Jackson spews:

    “Bush Was Right”!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    WMD: The quote above is that of a former UNSCOM member after translating and reviewing 12 hours of taped conversations between Saddam Hussein and his aides. So what’s on the covers of Time and Newsweek?

    Funny thing about dictators and tyrants: Very often they are meticulous record keepers. The fall of the Third Reich, the Soviet Union and Saddam Hussein’s Iraq all produced treasure troves of information. In Iraq’s case, there were so many documents and records that even now only a small fraction have been translated and analyzed.

    Among them are 12 hours of conversations from the early 1990s through 2000 between Hussein and his top advisers. They reveal, among other things, how Iraq was working on an advanced method of enriching uranium, how Iraq was conspiring to deceive U.N. inspectors regarding weapons of mass destruction and how these weapons might be used against the U.S. [NO, DUMB FUCK RR, YOU’RE FUCKING WRONG!!!!!!!!!!]

  88. 254

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Betcha MTR washed out of the UPS driving school. That’s why he can’t make a union wage, and bitches about his child support.

  89. 255

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Hey MTR, the problem with Cheney (and the rest of you dingbat wingnuts) stubbornly sticking to your core beliefs is that YOU’RE FUCKING WRONG!!!!!

  90. 256

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    MTR — explain to me again how deficits, importing Arab oil, and selling our debt to China makes the average American more prosperous?

  91. 257

    GBS spews:

    Roger Rabbit @ 14:

    Is your assertion accurate on the 7k a month claim being exempt?

    If that’s true, how did MTR manage to pay $500,000 in child support? As he has claimed.

  92. 258

    Roger Rabbit spews:


    “uh huh… tax yourself into prosperity. Doesn’t bother me if seattle kooks wanna try. have at it… Comment by Mark The Redneck— 2/22/06 @ 9:05 am”

    Doesn’t Seattle have one of the world’s highest concentration of millionaires? I’m pretty sure MTR isn’t one of them, though — just a frustrated wannabe. He’s probably a non-union delivery truck driver.

  93. 259

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Hey MTR if you’re as prosperous as you claim, how come you can’t afford your child support? Income above 7k a month is exempt from child support, so you must be a five-digit guy.

  94. 260

    Roger Rabbit spews:


    “can ya imagine having a VP who has core beliefs”

    He reminds me of the clerics who burned people at the stake for saying the Earth is round.

  95. 261

    Roger Rabbit spews:


    “Yes, you CAN tax yourself into prosperity. Go ahead. Try.”

    We did and it worked fine until you wingnut idiots showed up and sold off big chunks of America to China.

  96. 262

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Don’t be surprised if Bush sells off the Lincoln Memorial to pay for his next round of tax cuts for the super-rich.

  97. 263

    Roger Rabbit spews:


    “Tucked away in the ‘Deficit Reduction Act of 2005′ Bush signed this month is a provision requiring television broadcasters to switch their signals from analog to digital by Feb. 19, 2009. The intent is to free up valuable bandwidth that the federal government can sell, presumably to help whittle down the budget deficit. But it will also require much of the country to spend billions in order to watch television: Forbes estimates that the digital switchover will help the electronics business move $75 billion worth of product in the next three years.”


  98. 264

    REV Jesse [JCH] Jackson spews:

    Wouldn’t it be great if California sent WASH all their illegals? 10 million new Democrats in Seattle! Think about all the new friends you would make in your hospitals and emergency rooms!

  99. 265

    REV Jesse [JCH] Jackson spews:

    7, cont..Bob from Boeing and RR would be happy tp pay 100% of their income for “required” state services!!!

  100. 266

    REV Jesse [JCH] Jackson spews:

    And the illegals would bring lots of cool new “cultural diversities” like polio, crime, and drugs!

  101. 267

    Aexia spews:

    Geez, can ya imagine having a VP who has core beliefs and leads rather than just reacting to polls? That’s totally foreign to you isn’t it?

    Because we need more leaders who, after having driven us all off a cliff, stubbornly refuse to even acknowledge the existance of the cliff.

  102. 268

    REV Jesse [JCH] Jackson spews:

    What Seattle needs is a few million Mexican illegals to education, feed, and provide lots of medical services. Lots of crime, jails, and emergency rooms to pay for. The good news: they will all vote Democrat!

  103. 269

    BOB from BOEING spews:


    Roads, busses, bridges, 100 year needed infrastructures —– sure, just toss these things off as boondoggles.

    Just what is you education? I like my car, I like good roads, and do take the bus once in a while. Surprise, $$$$$ needed to build and maintain.

    Mark you desererve the gridlock in you life, and the ruts, and the bridge collapse with your primitive view.

  104. 270

    Mark The Redneck spews:

    uh huh… tax yourself into prosperity. Doesn’t bother me if seattle kooks wanna try. have at it…

  105. 271

    Mark The Redneck spews:

    I love Seattle. It’s always good for a laugh and to serve as a bad example for the rest of us. Moonbat legislators want to make monorail car tab tax permanent to pay for other boondoggles.

    Yes, you CAN tax yourself into prosperity. Go ahead. Try.


  106. 273

    Mark The Redneck spews:

    Moonbats – Didja see the cover of Time Mag where they aks why Cheney “stubbornly clings to what he believes”. Geez, can ya imagine having a VP who has core beliefs and leads rather than just reacting to polls? That’s totally foreign to you isn’t it?

Podcasting Liberally

It took us a while to get this week’s podcast from Drinking Liberally edited, and up online, because, quite frankly… we were drunk. Anyway, our February 7th edition is now available for your listening pleasure.

Joining me this week was Sandeep Kaushik, formerly of The Stranger, Will from Pike Place Politics, Carl from Washington State Political Report, Howie from Howie in Seattle (et al), Molly from Liberal Girl Next Door, Darryl from Hominid Views, and the lovely-but-linkless Emily.

Special thanks again goes to Richard Huff and Gavin Shearer for producing the podcast. I also highly recommend their own podcast, The Confab Show; their February 9th edition should be up online shortly.


  1. 274

    GBS spews:

    Bothell @ 163:

    You lack attention to detail like JCH. Which is the primary cause of failure.

    Since you’re so SMART and you’re obvioiusly following my postings regarding investing so closely, tell me, at what price did I sell my RHAT shares?


    PS: Extra credit question: What was my ultimate gain on a precentage basis, and what does that translate to annually?

    Fucking Moron.

  2. 275

    GBS spews:

    J CClarice H @ 234:

    Crack, King Cobra, and a wad of $100 bills! He be one bad ass black Democrat MOFO!!! hehe

    Probably he got the money from the $8.9 BILLION that the Bush administration lost in Iraq while Paul Bremer was “in charge.” All fresh $100 bills wrapped in plastic made it to Baghdad, but nobody knows where it went once it arrived. Hmmmm. . . terrorists are using the money to kill more US troops.

    You cannot support the troops and support the Bush administration at the same time.

    You are either witht the troops or with the president.

    Which is it, Clarice?

    PS: I didn’t see your story of misery on this thread. Are you up to it, or do you need to see your therapist again?

  3. 276

    [JCH] spews:

    Congo leader’s £169,000 hotel bill
    Tony Allen-Mills, New York

    THE leader of one of Africa’s poorest countries paid more than £100,000 in cash towards a £169,000 hotel bill run up by his entourage during last year’s United Nations summit in New York, according to court documents obtained by The Sunday Times [Crack, King Cobra, and a wad of $100 bills! He be one bad ass black Democrat MOFO!!! hehe]

  4. 277

    [JCH] spews:

    “that Republicans start wars and Democrats finish them.” [REV AA] Errrrrrrrrrr, REV WWI Wilson, WWII Roosevelt, Korea Truman, Viet Nam Kennedy/Johnson [REV, all wars “started” by Democrats. A little 7th grade history could help here, REV!]

  5. 278

    Rev. A.A. Tappman: Anababtist spews:

    The party of cut and run, Yeo, is the Republican Party. Name one war where the Democrats cut and run. You can’t, because there isn’t one. It’s common knowledge ,and always has been, that Republicans start wars and Democrats finish them. You act as if you are standing on some historical pinnacle of achievement. You’re fooling yourself! Grenada and Panama don’t count as crowning acievements of military might.

    The biggest brag I’ve heard on Grenada is that there were,”…more Cubans there than you think!” Oh, really!! Well, I think we could have scared them just as bad by sending over Ricky Ricardo and having him sing, “Baba-Lou”!

  6. 279

    CAPS LOCK STUCK spews:


  7. 280

    YO spews:


  8. 282

    RUFUS spews:

    Most over seas ballots in donks district in Florida were from Military personel. Gore was trying to get these thrown out. End of Story.

  9. 283

    RUFUS spews:


    What does a bunch of uncounted ballots have anything to do with the outcome of Florida? You do know that they were not counted when Bush won the first time, right? It is not like the votes were counted twice and on the third try ballots were added that produced a different outcome. Hey that sounds familiar. Democrats = Voter Fraud.

  10. 284

    klake spews:

    FACT – Louisiana National Guard requested 700 buses from FEMA for evacuations, FEMA only sent 100: The Boston Globe reported, ‘On Sunday, the day before the storm, the Louisiana National Guard asked FEMA for 700 buses to evacuate people. It received only 100.’ [Boston Globe, 9/11/05]

    Comment by Roger Rabbit— 2/10/06 @ 3:30 pm

    Roger more buses were not need if the Mayor used the one’s he abandoned in the local bus yard.

  11. 285

    Roger Rabbit spews:


    Don’t worry, JCH, nobody is going to send YOU to rescue kidnapped Americans from our enemies. That’s a job for real MEN.

  12. 286

    Roger Rabbit spews:


    “Could it be that 70 million was spent becasue Clinton obstructed justice and lied. No shit it cost a lot, he was a fucking liar. Dumb ass. Comment by Liberal L— 2/10/06 @ 8:09 pm”

    If it was worth $70 million of taxpayers’ money to prove Clinton lied about a blowjob, how much should we spend to prove Bush lied about a war (and a host of other things)?

  13. 287

    Roger Rabbit spews:


    “My E-7s supervised your “workspaces”.”

    YOUR E-7s? I thought E-7s work for the government — and tell lieutenants what to do, not the other way around.

  14. 288

    Roger Rabbit spews:


    “Isn’t it nice to live in a world where no matter how crooked or foolish the Republican party becomes, people like him are too much of a wingnut to ever matter?”

    A few hundred years ago, they were dancing under the full moon and burning people at the stake.

  15. 290

    Roger Rabbit spews:


    “Retired, and enjoying the sunshine! Thanks for asking! And you? Comment by Saul Rosenberg, ESQ [JCH]— 2/10/06 @ 8:20 pm”

    Sooo … you ADMIT you’re an unproductive parasite on society? At least I have a job — making more bunnies!!! :D

  16. 291

    Roger Rabbit spews:


  17. 292

    Roger Rabbit spews:


    “No we dont. We let them vote in our districts. Comment by RUFUS— 2/10/06 @ 8:12 pm”

    Sorry, Doofus — you’re a lying sack of shit. The New York Times, after an exhaustive investigation of the 2000 election in Florida, reported the REPUBLICANS kept overseas (can you say “military”?) ballots from being counted in Democratic Counties, while trying to get illegal overseas ballots counted in Republican counties. The Gore campaign waived objections to counting flawed overseas ballots.

    “Their goal was simple: to count the maximum number of overseas ballots in counties won by Mr. Bush, particularly those with a high concentration of military voters, while seeking to disqualify overseas ballots in counties won by Vice President Al Gore.

    ” … Under intense pressure from the Republicans, Florida officials accepted hundreds of overseas absentee ballots that failed to comply with state election laws. … The flawed votes included ballots without postmarks, ballots postmarked after the election, ballots without witness signatures, ballots mailed from towns and cities within the United States and even ballots from voters who voted twice.

    ” … In its investigation, The Times found that these overseas ballots – the only votes that could legally be received and counted after Election Day – were judged by markedly different standards, depending on where they were counted. The unequal treatment of these ballots is at odds with statements by Bush campaign leaders and by the Florida secretary of state, Katherine Harris, that rules should be applied uniformly and certainly not changed in the middle of a contested election. It also conflicts with the equal protection guarantee that the United States Supreme Court invoked in December when it halted a statewide manual recount and effectively handed Florida to Mr. Bush.”


  18. 293

    Drivel spews:

    Jaundiced Coat Hanger @ 189. You sure seem to have a ‘preocupation’ for asking if anyone here is gay! What’s the matter? Your wife likes Armidillo dicks better than the ’65’ count shrimp of a dick you have? There are ‘approved’ surgeries for that! Ask your ‘Chimp in Chief’ where he would recommend!

  19. 294

    Cougar spews:

    YO, your ignorance preceeds you. YO, the laughing stock of JCH’s brigade. (and you have to be real ‘stupid’ to be behind JCH because he will assuredly ‘top’ you!)

  20. 295

    Drivel spews:

    Jaundiced Coat Hanger AKA J CLarice H, seems funny that you want to get everyone in the ‘brig’ with you! Must have spent an inordinate amount of time ‘touching you toes’ for your true ‘heroes’

  21. 296

    Drivel spews:

    JCH @ 177, your wife was complaining about your ‘small job’ on DailyKos. Maybe you should seek an ‘enlargement’ operation! I have heard in Mexico the ‘do’ the gringos for half price. Right up you alley! LMAO @ shrimpdick Jaundiced Coat Hanger

  22. 297

    YO spews:


  23. 298

    Rev. A.A. Tappman: Anababtist spews:

    JCH: What are you trying to accomplish? You are such an intransigent buffoon that even your rightist Augusto Pinochet buddies want nothing to do with you.

    All your negative black and Jewish references make me doubt your sanity.

  24. 299

    marks spews:


    I think your answer is here:

    Lt(jg) JCH @188 sez:

    Nope……I was responsible for my own stateroom.

    Undoubtedly, a junior grade, at best…

  25. 300

    JDB spews:


    JCH the racist’s biggest wet dream is the one where he finds out that Ann Coulter is a shemale and she/he makes JCH blow her/him.

  26. 306

    [JCH] spews:

    KUWAIT – American journalist Jill Carroll being held hostage in Iraq appeared in a new video tape aired on the private Kuwaiti satellite Al Rai TV station on Thursday. Carroll, wearing a headscarf, appealed for help in securing her release. The 28-year-old journalist, who was kidnapped in Iraq on January 7, had last appeared in a video aired on Al Jazeera on January 30. in which she appealed to fellow Americans to press for the release of Iraqi women held by U.S.-led forces. [Dear libs in Marin County, Bounder, CO, Ann Arbor, MI, and Seattle, WA………Please keep your dumb ass liberal “save the world” children at home! When they are kidnapped, Navt SEALs, Marine RECON, Army Special Forces [Delta] personnel have to risk THEIR lives for your dumb ass liberal shit for brains children. Let them smoke dope and hate Bush at home with you socialist POS liberal Democrat parents!]

  27. 308

    BOB from BOEING spews:

    And, as for the way Gay men sound – never once in my entire life has my private life been in question – any time, anywhere – unles I offer the info.

    Contraire to homophobic stupidity, Gay men fit the range of looks, actions and mannerisms, just like the so called straight boys.

  28. 309

    marks spews:

    Lt(jg) JCH,

    Actually, I have never held the honorable title of E3. In my rating, I went from E2 to E4 upon graduation.

    On the subject of gayness, you were the first and only one to suggest, so I assume (rightly, I’m sure) that you have closeted thoughts about sweaty men in a gymnasium going through your head? Plenty of homos on your “big island” no doubt…

  29. 311

    [JCH] spews:

    REV AA, Was that you giving a little black “Tookie Williams” love to REV Al “Tawana” Sharpton?

  30. 313

    [JCH] spews:

    REV AA, Can you give me an “Amen, brother! “Tookie Williams” anal sex for all the brothers! “Gots ta gets da AIDs”!!!

  31. 315

    [JCH] spews:

    Why did you ask about my rack? That seems queer. Your interest in my life seems queer. Are you queer?

  32. 318

    marks spews:


    Why do Democrats and Islam terrorists sound alike?

    Um, let me guess, because they’re gay?

    FWIW – Lt(jg) JCH, I am a male lesbian, but there is nothing wrong with that…

  33. 319

    Saul Rosenberg, ESQ [JCH] spews:

    187, marks, Interesting that you are inquiring about my “rack”. Are you gay?

  34. 321

    marks spews:

    Funny, Lt(jg) JCH @182,

    My workspaces were all blue-tile. Oh, yeah, you were a gator. Did they have blue-tile?

  35. 323

    Saul Rosenberg, ESQ [JCH] spews:

    marks, XO’s inquiry, and Captain’s mast for “attitude” problems like you.

  36. 324

    JDB spews:

    Isn’t it nice to live in a world where no matter how crooked or foolish the Republican party becomes, people like him are too much of a wingnut to ever matter?

  37. 325

    marks spews:

    Lt(jg) JCH,

    Just for my own edification, did “your” enlisted trice up your rack? No wonder you are a racist fuckbag. Living for 6 years with what is effectively slave labor really makes you miss the Navy, eh?

  38. 326

    Saul Rosenberg, ESQ [JCH] spews:

    187, Nope……I was responsible for my own stateroom. “Racist scumbag”? Too bad you didn’t work for one of my E-7s. [hehe]

  39. 327

    Saul Rosenberg, ESQ [JCH] spews:

    One question: Marks, like “Bob From Boeing”, are you gay? You sound gay.

  40. 328

    marks spews:

    But don’t let that stop U from being an Ass, Lt(jg) JCH…I’m sure you will continue to bring your form of enlightened conversation to all Captains and E-3’s wherever they are…

  41. 329

    Saul Rosenberg, ESQ [JCH] spews:

    marks, sea lawyer. Stay out of Officer’s Quarters and stand the next watch!

  42. 330

    marks spews:

    Lt(jg) JCH @178,

    U R an idiot. Only a Captain can assign such a penalty, and the perp must be an E-3 or below. Naturally, since you never aspired to such (either Captain or E-3), you get it wrong…

  43. 332

    Saul Rosenberg, ESQ [JCH] spews:

    161, Retired, and enjoying the sunshine! Thanks for asking! And you?

  44. 333

    Saul Rosenberg, ESQ [JCH] spews:

    GBS, Do you work on twin Merc 250s? Perhaps I have a small job for you.

  45. 334

    Saul Rosenberg, ESQ [JCH] spews:

    171, marks, [“E” man]. Perhaps 3 days in the brig on bread and water might improve your pissy attitude.

  46. 335

    Saul Rosenberg, ESQ [JCH] spews:

    “As an aside, Penn State is a great institution. My cousin graduated from there.” [marks] NOTE: marks did not!

  47. 336

    Liberal L spews:

    You can Crow about an indictment for anything except lying about a blow job. You idiots spent $70 million taxpayer dollars on that. As for me, I want my money back and a lb. of flesh will be just fine, thank you!

    Comment by Rev. A.A. Tappman: Anababtist— 2/10/06 @ 7:02 pm

    Could it be that 70 million was spent becasue Clinton obstructed justice and lied. No shit it cost a lot, he was a fucking liar. Dumb ass.

  48. 337

    RUFUS spews:

    Because Republicans hate the troops, and hate veterans too.

    Comment by Roger Rabbit— 2/10/06 @ 3:39 pm

    No we dont. We let them vote in our districts.

  49. 338

    marks spews:

    I have been informed that officers usually want their grade emphasised correctly:

    Lt(jg) JCH, I stand (er, actually I’m sitting and quite comfortably) corrected…

    What do I know? I’m a former enlisted guy, or as Lt(jg) JCH refers; “E Man”…

  50. 339

    marks spews:


    I did not mean to bypass your topic, as it does need a good comment (without taking anything away from the astute comments afore)…

    Shouldn’t it be “Procrastinating Liberally?”

  51. 340

    marks spews:


    You must understand the history from JCH’s perspective. He was Bull Ensign on his ship for 5 years before he made LtJg. The fact he made LtJg leads him to claim he wuz a Lieutenant for his entire 6 years of service.

    Of course, I happen to know he was a loser LtJg based on his dissing ALL enlisted with his MM1 reference @80 (never mind his idiotic “E Man” references). Officers like him – concerned only with themselves and their next paygrade – led me to an early exit from the Navy (just clarification: RE1 is the reentry code on my DD214, so go fuck yourself, JCH)

    As an aside, Penn State is a great institution. My cousin graduated from there. Based on her smarts, I find it suspect that JCH made it through, but strange things happen to strange people…

  52. 341

    Rev. A.A. Tappman: Anababtist spews:

    YO: You can Crow about an indictment for anything except lying about a blow job. You idiots spent $70 million taxpayer dollars on that. As for me, I want my money back and a lb. of flesh will be just fine, thank you!

  53. 342

    Cougar spews:

    Very Astute YO, Harry Reid has always had donations from many Indian Tribes. Abramoff comes along and signs up the same tribes to his ‘plan’. Immediately the donations are cut way down to Reid and go skyrocketting to the RepubliCONS. Wow, you a are really a genious aren’t you? Example for you (mentally constrained as you are) H Reid receives $50,000 per year from tribes for many years as Nevada just happens to be ‘Casino Land’. Along comes Abramoff and ‘CONS’ the same tribes into giving his lobbyist group $$$$. At the same time he tells them to cut their pledges to Reid. Acutally this is a good sign for Reid. A noted CON gets honest people to cancel donations to a respected Senator. What don’t you, (in your mental midgetry) understand?

  54. 344

    K spews:

    I. Lewis Libby Jr., the former chief of staff to Vice President Dick Cheney, told a grand jury that he was authorized by his “superiors” to disclose classified information to reporters about Iraq’s weapons capability in June and July 2003, according to a document filed by a federal prosecutor.

    The Bush Administration- will dosclose classified information to advance its own political goals.

  55. 346

    YO spews:


  56. 347

    Bothell spews:

    Actually, I’m a huge risk taker when it comes to investing. I’ll credit William O’Neil where I learned to spot opportunities.
    Currently I’m 100% vested in RHAT. Bought on Dec 14 @ $25.10
    Today’s close on RHAT 27.26, I’m up 8% in 2 weeks. That’s over 200% annualized.
    Pick the right stock, buy at the correct pivot point, set your trailing stop at -7% when you buy, and go “all in.” Just like playing poker except I limit my down side. Buying correctly normally solves the selling for a loss dilema. The ‘all in’ part is me, not William O’neil. Moron.
    Comment by GBS— 12/30/05 @ 3:54 pm

    Red Hat closed today @$26.50
    Smart people sold at $30.

  57. 348

    Rev. A.A. Tappman: Anababtist spews:

    I just bought two canaries. I named one Scooter and the other Abramoff. They seem to get along pretty well in their cage.

    On a more serious note. Does anyone else remember what happened to Spiro Agnew before the CHIEF declared himself to not be a crook or quitter and then quit?

  58. 349

    GBS spews:

    JClarice H:

    Quid pro quo, Clarice. . .Tell us your darkest feelings regarding your military failures.

    Tell us how you felt when you WASHED-OUT of flight school.

    Tell us how you were greeted by your wife/girlfriend, mother, father, brother, sister, aunt, uncles, cousins when they realized you were a failure.

    Tell us of the shame when you had to say “I didn’t make it. But, I have no regrets.”

    “Oh, sure, son / JCH we’re still proud of you. You tried your best and that’s all that counts.” But in their minds they were thinking other thoughts, weren’t they? You could sense it. Couldn’t you?

    Tell us, Clarice, did how long was it before your father would speak with you again? Weeks? Months? Years?

    Did he go to his grave without ever speaking to you again? Could he not take it? The failure.

    Is that why you moved to Hawaii? To remove yourself from the family shame?

    Yes, Clarice, tell us your story.

    The story of a WASHOUT.


  59. 350

    Drivel spews:

    union maid @ 157 How can you court martial a ‘parrot’? Yossarian just copies his fellow imbeciles (like the Washout in Hawaii) and talking points. No ability to form a cognative thought of its own. We should ‘pamper’ it. After all, he/she/it is a likely candidate for bird flue. Bahhhhhk Bahhhhk Bahhhhk

  60. 351

    Drivel spews:

    Rev. It is the same type of brilliance as GWB’s selling off of US Landholldings. Waste $3 billion per day in a ‘fabricated’ war and think the taxpayers will see ‘balance’ in selling $1 billion of land. Makes sense, doesn’t it? GWB, biggest failure in American History!

  61. 352

    Rev. A.A. Tappman: Anababtist spews:

    How does taking money OUT of the Social Security system keep it solvent? More smoke and mirrors for the dumb. The Reps. will lay a little flim-flam ideology on them and that will be that.

  62. 353

    union maid spews:

    Yossarian, you are a cowardly pathetic deserter who should be courts martialed and shot.

  63. 354

    union maid spews:

    “His plan would let people set up private accounts starting in 2010 and would divert more than $700 billion of Social Security tax revenues to pay for them over the first seven years.”

    I suppose Bush’s fat-cat cronies are going to pay for this, right? But NOOOOOOooooooo! That would mean raising taxes on their ill gotten wealth. Can’t do that, can we!

    I suppose there will still be a few widows and orphans around to starve. All is not lost for these guys.

  64. 355

    Roger Rabbit spews:


    “… Last year, even though Bush talked endlessly about the supposed joys of private accounts, he never proposed a specific plan to Congress and never put privatization costs in the budget. But this year, with no fanfare whatsoever, Bush stuck a big Social Security privatization plan in the federal budget proposal, which he sent to Congress on Monday.

    “His plan would let people set up private accounts starting in 2010 and would divert more than $700 billion of Social Security tax revenues to pay for them over the first seven years.”


  65. 358

    Rev. A.A. Tappman: Anababtist spews:

    re 4: I felt like that the day after 9/11 and I was in favor of going after bin Laden ( not in favor of flying his relatives to safety ). If any people deserved to be held hostage and questioned vigorously, it was the bin Laden family.

    But what did the dildo that the Supreme Court elected do? He flew them to safety. I’m not saying there’s a conspiracy, but if protecting Americans is the president’s goal, I fail to see how that serves it.

  66. 363

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Hey, I appreciate the support, buddy! Without REMFS like you I mighta run outa ammo …

  67. 364

    Roger Rabbit spews:


    “GBS, Free ride at Penn State, Free MBA … Comment by [JCH]— 2/10/06 @ 2:42 pm”

    Just as I suspected.

    F R E E L O A D E R

  68. 365

    Roger Rabbit spews:


    “What brings a man to point of quitting, JCH? What was your specific breaking point?”

    He realized he’s a coward.

  69. 366

    Saul Rosenberg, ESQ [JCH] spews:

    Harare – The government on Friday described Zimbabwe’s remaining white farmers as unrepentant and irrelevant, and rejected their pleas for a halt to land seizures. Agriculture Minister Joseph Made defended land reform policies under which thousands of white-owned farms have been distributed to black Zimbabweans since 2000 /break/ denied reports the government planned to make concessions to white farmers to get them back onto the land to boost food production. [We need a comment from Maxine Waters here!! [hehe]]

  70. 367

    Roger Rabbit spews:


    “GBS, So………Why is a military guy like you a POS liberal?”

    Because Republicans hate the troops, and hate veterans too.

  71. 369

    Saul Rosenberg, ESQ [JCH] spews:

    SAN DIEGO – Twenty-nine people were injured, some critically, when a van being chased by U.S. Border Patrol agents crashed on the U.S. side of the border with Mexico Friday afternoon, authorities said. The van collided with a semi truck and overturned on Interstate 905 around 1:40 p.m. after Border Patrol agents pursuing the van laid down a spike strip in its path, said California Highway Patrol Officer Larry Landeros. [New Mexicans to vote Democrat, use millions of dollars in emergency, education, and social services, and file lots of lawsuits against anyone with deep pockets! Hymie and I will be busy suing for months!]

  72. 370

    Saul Rosenberg, ESQ [JCH] spews:

    UNITED NATIONS – Secretary-General Kofi Annan has sent Ivory Coast President Laurent Gbagbo a $3.6 million bill for U.N. property and equipment damaged or lost during January riots, the United Nations said on Friday. “The secretary-general wrote to President Gbagbo expressing his dismay at the fact that the Ivorian authorities had not protected, as they should have, the U.N. premises during the disturbances in January,” U.N. chief spokesman Stephane Dujarric told reporters. [This is classic! A liberal black demanding another liber black to pay a bill! ROTFLMAO!]

  73. 373

    Roger Rabbit spews:


    “CLAIM – Mayor Nagin left 2,000 school buses behind in the flood: Sean Hannity said, ‘You would have thought that the 2,000 buses, school buses, that sat in the yards would have been used to help those people that were incapable of getting out on their own, but none of that had happened locally.’ [Hannity and Colmes, 9/6/05]

    “FACT – New Orleans had less than 300 working school buses: ‘The [Orleans Parish school] district owns 324 buses but 70 are broken down.’ [New Orleans Times-Picayune, 9/5/05]

    “CLAIM – Local officials deserve blame for lack of evacuation buses: Rick Santorum claimed, ‘Many didn’t have cars. And that really was a failure on the part of local officials in not making transportation available to get people out.’ [Times Leader,9/6/05]

    “FACT – Louisiana National Guard requested 700 buses from FEMA for evacuations, FEMA only sent 100: The Boston Globe reported, ‘On Sunday, the day before the storm, the Louisiana National Guard asked FEMA for 700 buses to evacuate people. It received only 100.’ [Boston Globe, 9/11/05]

  74. 375

    GBS spews:


    Seriously, all the questions you want answered. I swear on my Trident.

    Just as soon as you tell us in vivid detail of your failures.

    I’m gong to leave now. That will give you ample time to remember the who, what, where and why of your failures. At then end of your essay leave your questions. I will answer them if I’m satisfied with your details of shame.

  75. 379

    GBS spews:

    @ 124 & 125

    You lack of attention to detail is shinning again, WASHOUT. It is the primary reason why you failed. I’ve already answered that question earlier with extra credit included.

    Now, I’ve answered one of your questions. Answer mine.

    Your turn.

    Painful details, please. All of them.

  76. 382

    GBS spews:

    @ 130

    A lack of inginutity and imagination is another reason why candidates WASHOUT.

    Details, Clarice. Details.

  77. 383

    Roger Rabbit spews:


    “making an ass of yourslef online”

    Speaking of idiots, at least I know how to spell “yourself,” and I’m just a furry little rabbit! So — Yo — which charter school did YOU flunk out of?

  78. 386

    GBS spews:

    You started to admit your failures before, Clarice. When you were admiring the accomplishments of George W. Bush, how he became a pilot where you could not.

    Go on, you feel it almost bubbeling to the surface. Is it rage now? Are you angry? Do you hate remembering that day?

    Tell us.


  79. 387

    GBS spews:

    Hmmm. . . Clarice, are the memories too painful, still too fresh.

    Was the look of disappointment in your father’s eye more than you could bear? There wasn’t any beaming of their smiles, rubbing your head and telling you how “proud they were of you” and actually meaning it was there, JCH?

    Yes, those must be painful memeories. But, you should unleash them. Cleanse yourself of your years of misery piled one on top of the other for decades.

    Tell us, tell us your failures.

    I’ll tell you my successes.

  80. 391

    GBS spews:

    Oh, I know, Clarice.

    But, I won’t to know your failures first. Every detail of misery, quitting, shame, disgust.

    I’ve earned it. You, being a 1st loser, have not.

    Quid pro quo, Clarice.

  81. 394

    [JCH] spews:

    We are done here. You are a fake. I worked as support on ships for MAF and Marine Recon as well as SEALs. When SEALs die, other KNOW!! They KNOW!! You are a fake.

  82. 395

    GBS spews:

    It’s so simple, Clarice.

    You describe your story of failure, washout, and shame and I’ll answer your questions.

    Quid pro quo.

    Last chance, Clarice.

  83. 396

    [JCH] spews:

    SEALs were from USS Tuscaloosa, part of the USS Belleau Wood Battle Group. The CH-53s were xferred from LHA 3 to USS Nimitz. SEALs died on this mission. And you would know if you were a “Trident”. You are a fake.

  84. 399

    [JCH] spews:

    How many SEALs died on the CH 53s in Desert ONE? GBS, I’m starting to think you are full of shit.

  85. 402

    GBS spews:


    Quid pro quo, I’ll answer your questons about resuces later. . .

  86. 404

    [JCH] spews:

    A little SEAL question: NAB swimming pool, [83-84]……..I met SEALs training for what event?

  87. 406

    [JCH] spews:

    What ship gave the Nimitz the helos for Desert One? Any SEALS involved? What team number?

  88. 408

    GBS spews:

    I was on both coasts during my service. Started in Little Creek, wound up on Cornoado. Actually, started my training there.

    I’ll tell you all that you want to know. Right after you tell your tale of misery and failure just like I said I would.

    C’mon, I have extra Kleenex for you becaue I know you’ll need them.

  89. 410

    [JCH] spews:

    Never flew……..Now, about the helo’s on Nimitz………..From where? Any SEALs on board?

  90. 412

    GBS spews:

    C’mon, JCH. Be man, own up to your failures. Tell us about your washout. I believe it was flight school is what you were saying when you were all buttery about George W. Bush serving in F1-109’s in the TANG. Isn’t that when you said you washedout?

    Yeah, it was.

    Tell the story. The sad, sad, story of failure.

    C’mon, buck up little guy, relive the day of your infamy.

  91. 413

    GBS spews:

    @ 89

    Marcinko, started Seal Team 6, the Counter Terrorism Unit.

    Now, your turn.

    Details, sad, sad details of failure.

  92. 414

    GBS spews:

    You’re probably googleing Seal Team 8. I’ll save you the trouble, HQ Little Creek, VA. Area of operations Caribbean, Africa, and The Med.

  93. 415

    [JCH] spews:

    Coronado SEAL Teams [West Coast]: Odd Numbers. So, now you would like to tell me about EVEN number Teams. ROTFLMAO! [Desert One [79/80]: USS Nimitz’s helos [CH 53s] came from where? If you were a West Coast SEAL, you would know. Answer carefully, as your credibility is on the line.]

  94. 418

    GBS spews:

    I’ll make you a deal, JCH, and I think it’s prett fair one at that.

    You answer my questions that I asked about in my post at 84 and I’ll tell you about my first real world assignment while I was attached to Seal Team 8. Operation El Dorado Canyon.

    Yours will be a tale of failure, mine will be a story that takes place in country in Northeren Afirca.

    OK, you first, then I’ll go. But I want all the sad, teary-eyed details of failure.

    I want to know how your wife/girlfriend, Mother, Father consoled you on your failure. Your feelings of shame, disgust, etc.

  95. 423

    GBS spews:


    Please answer the questions at 72, 78, 79, 82, & 83.

    Details, JCH, we want all your painful details of failure.

    [he he]

  96. 424

    [JCH] spews:

    GBS, Free ride at Penn State, Free MBA, Naval OFFICER, and retired in Hawaii at 51. And you, “E” Man?

  97. 427

    GBS spews:

    Come on, JCH, it would be good therapy for you if you express how you “felt” when you WASHEDOUT.

    Tell us, what broke you?

  98. 428

    GBS spews:

    What brings a man to point of quitting, JCH?

    What was your specific breaking point?

    Was it physical or mental?

    Which was it?

    Tell us all the sad details. Leave nothing out!!

    What makes a WASHOUT tick?

  99. 429

    GBS spews:

    Ahhh, he’s back.

    Did I remind you of a bad time in your life, JCH?

    Did you have to quit for a Kleenex break?

    Hmmmmm. . . feel all better now?

    Need a glass of milk and some cookies?

    OK, run along now and play with your ships in the bathtub.

    Buh-bye, WASHOUT.

  100. 431

    GBS spews:


    So, did you WASHOUT on request (DOR) or were you “performanced dropped?”

    Whichi is it? Loser!

    Take us back to that painful day in your miserable existence. Tell us in detail what happens in the mind of a loser.

    Did you say to yourself “I can’t do this any more. I’m going to quit.”

    Or did someone have to tell you “Son, you’re just not good enough for this program. Maybe you should explore the opportunites in the Marine Corp.”

    Huh? Huh? Which was it? Loser.

    Tell us in detail how you felt once you knew you were “cut from the team.”

    How did you break the news to your family that you just weren’t good enough?

    Tell us the details. Tell us how the loser’s mind works.

    What excuses do you tell yourself?

    What made you feel better?

    Mommy’s breasts?

    Because we know your Daddy wasn’t PROUD on that day, was he?

    Tell the story of a WASHOUT.

  101. 432

    GBS spews:


    Everyone knows that smartest and the best go to the:
    1) Navy, then
    2) Air Force,
    3) Army,
    4) Natinal Guard
    5) The dumbest go in the Marines.

    And, these dumb shits were better men than you??



  102. 433

    GBS spews:


    Were you really the fastest and best sprem CELL your Daddy could muster?

    Holy Crap, the WASHOUT gene must be genetic.


  103. 434

    [JCH] spews:

    The Sheriff’s Department struggled for a sixth day Thursday to halt violence in the County Jail system, as 200 Latino and black inmates clashed just after officials had guided the media through the Pitchess Detention Center on a tour…SNIP… “The silence by every major Latino leader in the city is troubling.” [Democrats at play……..Not a Republican within miles!]

  104. 436

    GBS spews:

    And to think you said on another thread that when you were in the Gator Navy, you served with men better than you.


    Stupid, dumb, Marines, are men better than you.


    You must’ve have been a major disappintment to your FATHER, weren’t you?

    I bet he was ashamed of having a panty waste for a son!!

    That is, if you’re a man.


  105. 438

    GBS spews:


  106. 439

    [JCH] spews:

    “They don’t let WASHOUTS like you with MEN like us.”……Now I know you are full of BS. Just like Roger Rabbit.

  107. 440

    GBS spews:


    Adventure is exactly what we’d say.

    Being on a “ship” was an insult.


  108. 441

    GBS spews:

    See, your regrets of being a WAHSOUT, are starting to show, JCH. Your anger is revealing your true character. 2nd place, 1st loser.

    Can’t, won’t, couldn’t, didn’t, almost, don’t. . . these are the words of a WAHSOUT. These are your words, JCH. Own them.


    It happens everytime I run across a frustrated loser like you. You couldn’t cut it. You accept failure.

    You say things like “I have no regrets.” And, say other MEN, like Roger Rabbit who have served in armed combat, are bull shitters.

    Accept it, WASHOUT, your failures are not our failures. We succed where losers like you fail.

    Don’t take it out on us.


    Words of a WASHOUT.

    And, you JCH are the

  109. 442

    [JCH] spews:

    “That type of duty wasn’t for MEN, like us. We craved adventure.” [No SEAL would ever post a POS sentence like that. ]

  110. 443

    GBS spews:

    So you counted rounds and kept the gun clean.

    You never did shit except maybe, a test fire now and again.

    They don’t let WASHOUTS like you with MEN like us.


  111. 445

    GBS spews:


    You only have a 5″. No wonder you’re a WASHOUT ZERO.



  112. 450

    GBS spews:

    Maybe you’ve figured it out by now, ZERO.

    You look pretty stupid now calling me a “shore duty puke” on another thread.

    We took pity on you pussies who had to be stationed on a ship.

    That type of duty wasn’t for MEN, like us. We craved adventure.

  113. 452

    GBS spews:

    WOW! JCH

    Were you in charge of the mess decks.

    You’re a real “he man.”

    Haaa haaa haaa.


  114. 454

    GBS spews:

    JCH is a washout.

    There are other programs that maybe you can do. Like Surface Officer Warfare School.

    That’s where the washouts go.


  115. 456

    GBS spews:

    What are you up to JCH?

    Googleing “Trident?”

    Yeah, when we trained, we were right there with the officers getting all the shit from ENLISTED MEN!!!

    Dismissed, ZERO!!

    Ring the bell three times and put your helmet at the end of the row.


  116. 459

    GBS spews:

    Just like a washout to keep asking the same question and not getting the answer.

    See, your lack of attention to detail is the number one reason why people washout.


  117. 461

    GBS spews:

    Yes, I my rating was a Gear Grinder. Although, I only served in the surface fleet for a couple of years. Even though I wasn’t working in my “job” rating, I retained that rating.

    Exited the service as an EN1. With a Trident.


  118. 469

    [JCH] spews:

    GBS, E Man!!! Maybe a few days in the brig on bread and water might have improved your attitude.

  119. 473

    [JCH] spews:

    If they gave the Democrat Milwaukee 5 dead sentences, the amount of Democrat voter fraud would go down a little.

  120. 477

    GBS spews:

    Washout loser.

    JCH, is a washout loser.




    Couldn’t hack it.



  121. 480

    GBS spews:

    I have many, many successful missions acorss shit river. Tossing a peso coin each time for good luck so I wouldn’t fall while being hammered.

    Seemed to work for me.

    The kids liked diving for the coins.

  122. 481

    [JCH] spews:

    The “solid” defense of the Milwaukee 5: These young dumb asses are Democrat and black; therefore, they should not be responsible for their actions. [Classic!]

  123. 482

    GBS spews:


    I highly doubt it. You’re more of the “Benny-Boy” type.

    You’re the type who bought “lovers Drinks.”


  124. 483

    [JCH] spews:

    Rabbit……”Proliferation can’t be stopped”. What a trembling POS you are. You sound like Chamberlain before WWII.

  125. 485

    GBS spews:

    You are either with Bush and the terrorists, or you are with America and Liberty!

    Choose a side you unpatriotic bastards!!

  126. 486

    [JCH] spews:

    14, GBS, I met your wife in Subic in 78. Right across Shit River. I remember that she danced at “New Jolo’s”. How’s that for details? [hehe]

  127. 487

    [JCH] spews:

    Way to go, JCH – give ‘em all the motivation and justification they need to nuke a U.S. city. Think they won’t? Proliferation can’t be stopped; in a few years, everyone will have nukes.

    Comment by Roger Rabbit— 2/10/06 @ 12:08 pm [American nukes have worked every time they are tried! Typical that you would be intimidated by Islamic terrorists.]

  128. 488

    [JCH] spews:

    Court TV…..The trail of 5 young black Democrat tire slashers in Milwaukee. Listen to the excuses, as one or two of these young POS have parents that a Democrat office holders. Classically Democrat funny!

  129. 489

    For the Clueless spews:

    Where are all the wing-nut trolls lately?

    Every day there’s another outrage and scandal to keep them scurrying back to momma’s skirts at the right-wing noise machine. They don’t come back until momma has fed them the latest talking points.

  130. 490

    GBS spews:

    Asked if he felt like a scapegoat, Brown responded “Yes,” adding: “I certainly feel somewhat abandoned.”

    Kicked to the curb, buddy boy.

    What more do Bush supporters need to finally believe they’ve been lied to all these years?

    While Bush borrows $2 Billion dollars each and every day to fund tax cuts for the uber-wealthy while cutting VA benefits.

    Way to “Support The Troops” you neo-convicts.

    You cannot simultaneously support Bush and support the troops

  131. 491

    GBS spews:

    Where are all the wing-nut trolls lately?

    There’s nothing like the truth to keep them out of the debate and on the sidelines.

  132. 492

    GBS spews:

    “I find it a little disingenuous,” Michael Brown, who at the time headed the Federal Emergency Management Agency, told a Senate oversight committee. “For them to claim that we didn’t have awareness of it is just baloney.”

    What??? Bush L-L-L-L-L-IED????



  133. 493

    GBS spews:

    “The three-term former Republican governor, Connecticut Gov. John G. Rowland left a federal prison camp Friday after serving more than 10 months for corruption that forced him from office. . .”

    In the coming years and decades this will become a familiar story, just insert your favorite Republican’s name in the article.

    As reported on MSNBC @


    The truth hurts, doesn’t it? You it neo-convicts!

  134. 494

    GBS spews:


    Tell us more about your escapades in Subic Bay in 1978. I’m sure they’re fascinating tales.

  135. 495

    Yossarian spews:

    Roger, you’re just an arrogant little idiot from Seattle. There’s ceratinly nothing special about you.

    Do everyone a favor and get something meaningful to do other than making an ass of yourslef online.

  136. 496

    GBS spews:

    After listening to some of “You’re doing a heck of a job, Brownie’s” testimony today regarding the lack of response from the Bush administration, I have to ask one question of Sean Hannity.

    What about all those yellow buses? Why didn’t Nagin use the yellow buses? Oh, all disaster would’ve been averted if he just used those yellow buses.

    Conservatives who support Bush and the Republicans in congress are un-American and unpatriotic.

    There is no other way to say it.

  137. 498

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Roger Rabbit posted 100% of the last 8 comments. If you don’t like it, fuck JCH in the ass, which feels about the same as fucking an armadillo.

  138. 500

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Hey JCH, maybe YOU can explain how Washington and Lincoln conducted on electronic surveillance? Did they do that with tin cans on a string? Oh wait, tin cans weren’t invented yet, either.

  139. 501

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Ooops, I forgot that Islamic terrorists wish death on their political opponents, too. How could I overlook that? Republicans and Islamic terrorists have a lot in common.

  140. 502

    Roger Rabbit spews:


    Way to go, JCH — give ‘em all the motivation and justification they need to nuke a U.S. city. Think they won’t? Proliferation can’t be stopped; in a few years, everyone will have nukes.

  141. 503

    Roger Rabbit spews:


    I’m opposed to slashing tires on Republican vans. We should slash their throats instead. Just kidding. No I’m not. Yes I am … I don’t wish death on my political opponents. Only Republicans (e.g., Ann Coulter, Pat Robertson) wish death on their political opponents. You have to be a Republican to go around slashing people’s throats.

  142. 504

    Roger Rabbit spews:


    Hey Luigi, I see you’re doing volunteer work of real value … namely, posting on HorsesAss. Way to go, Civic Dude!

  143. 505

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Hey, here’s a choice item from Liberal Girl’s web site:

    “Alberto Gonzales: ‘President Washington, President Lincoln, President Wilson, President Roosevelt have all authorized electronic surveillance on a far broader scale.'”

    Gee, did the Attorney General of the United States really say that? Is he that stupid? Um, don’t answer that … so, this is the guy we have to trust not to abuse the awesome power the Bushies have arrogated to themselves …

  144. 506

    [JCH] spews:

    Remember, The nukes ended WWII. Perhaps a few hundred million Muslims need a quick lesson in history. So, start with Iran. Nuke them to Hell, then take their oil. Every drop. Wait a week. If the towel heads keep fucking with America, pick another piss ant Muslim country. Repeat. Soon they will stop their terrorist ways or they will ALL die. Democrats will love this as we won’t need to drill in ANWR.

  145. 507

    [JCH] spews:

    Shouldn’t Democrat volunteer work include buying cases of Marlboros, King Cobra, and Black Velvet for “potential” Democrat voters? How about learning how to slash tires on Republican vans on Election Day?

  146. 509

    Luigi Giovanni spews:

    Goldy, you overestimate the interest in drunken discussions. Do something of real value on Tuesdays such as volunteer work. Be like Stefan.

Podcasting Liberally

My fellow panelists and I sat down to record our inaugural podcast from Drinking Liberally with the understanding that I wouldn’t release it if it sucked. Truth is, I’ve never been adverse to risking public failure, so it would’ve had to really, really suck for me to dump it in the trash.

Sure, it’s a little choppy and disorganized, but there’s some fun and interesting conversation, so just in time for your morning commute, here’s the first installment of Podcasting Liberally… or whatever the hell we decide to call it.

Our main panel includes Carl from Washington State Political Report, Will from Pike Place Politics, Darryl from Hominid Views, and, um… me. Tune in as we discuss a wide array of topical issues, ranging from Tim Eyman’s sexual orientation, to the State of the Union address, to GOP dirty tricks, to Tim Eyman’s sexual orientation.

Special thanks to Gavin Shearer and Richard Huff for producing, editing and serving the podcast, plus bringing all their fancy equipment. To say we couldn’t have done it without them would be, um, entirely accurate. In fact, they don’t really need us, considering they have their own long running podcast, the Confab Show, but shhhhh, don’t tell them.

I’m sure we’ll get a helluva a lot better over time, and a year from now I’ll probably look back on this first podcast with embarrassment… but then, I’m no stranger to embarrassment. I look forward to hearing your comments and critiques, and invite everyone to stop by next Tuesday and participate.


  1. 510

    Gerald T spews:

    Thanks for posting this Goldy. Being only 20, I have never been able to take part before today. *tear*

    I’m off to bed, but I’ll listen to this tomorrow. =).
    Gerald, LiberalWashington.com

  2. 511

    For the Clueless spews:

    Hey gang! I thought it came off very well and yes, DL is well on its way to taking over the whole Montlake.

  3. 512

    momus spews:

    Off topic but very funny…..

    Students at a high school were assigned to read two books, “Titanic” & “My Life” by Bill Clinton. One smart-ass student turned in the following book report, with the proposition that they were nearly identical stories! His cool professor gave him an A+ for this comparison report:

    “Titanic”: $29.99
    “My Life” by Clinton: $29.99

    Titanic: Over 3 hours to read
    Clinton: Over 3 hours to read

    Titanic: The story of Jack and Rose, their forbidden love, and subsequent catastrophe.
    Clinton: The story of Bill and Monica, their forbidden love, and subsequent catastrophe.

    Titanic: Jack is a starving artist.
    Clinton: Bill is a bullshit artist.

    Titanic: In one scene, Jack enjoys a good cigar.
    Clinton: Ditto for Bill.

    Titanic: During the ordeal, Rose’s dress gets ruined.
    Clinton: Ditto for Monica.

    Titanic: Jack teaches Rose to spit.
    Clinton: Let’s not go there.

    Titanic: Rose gets to keep her jewelry.
    Clinton: Monica’s forced to return her gifts.

    Titanic: Rose remembers Jack for the rest of her life.
    Clinton: Clinton doesn’t remember “Jack”.

    Titanic: Rose goes down on a vessel full of seamen.
    Clinton: Monica…ooh, let’s not go there, either.

    Titanic: Jack surrenders to an icy death.
    Clinton: Bill goes home to Hillary…basically the same thing.

  4. 514

    Cougar spews:

    When will you NeoCONS get over President Clinton? Why keep trying to redo history and paint him as a failure (such as yourselves?). All the jokes and riddles and inuendos will not erase the great record and tremendous job he did with the US Presidency! Unlike your monkey king, who will undoubtfully go down as one of the worst presidents in history!

  5. 516

    momus spews:

    “Why keep trying to redo history and paint him as a failure (such as yourselves?)”

    idiot, the man was impeached and a disgrace to the office….

  6. 517

    Commander Ogg spews:

    I wish bad Bill was back in charge. Surpluses instead of deficits. Diplomacy first instead of war. Actual solutions that work instead of messages from the divine.

    But most of all, actual, experienced, competent people who knew how to run government instead of political hacks that could not manage their way out of a latrine:

    Katrina report faults Chertoff, White House

    Associated Press
    WASHINGTON – The White House and Homeland Security chief Michael Chertoff failed to provide decisive action when Hurricane Katrina struck, congressional investigators said Wednesday in a stinging assessment of slow federal relief efforts.

  7. 518


    @ 10

    Momus, I don’t really think, you know, other people agree with you since, after all, the Democrats gained seats in 1998 in response to the impeachment. The American people rightly see that time in our history as one party’s egregious political ploy against a ‘bubba’ who whipped ‘em twice. But it’s cool, keeping bringing it up. 1998 makes Bush look like fucking Augusto Pinochet in comparison.

  8. 519

    ConservativeFirst spews:

    Comment by Cougar— 2/2/06 @ 8:34 am

    “All the jokes and riddles and inuendos will not erase the great record and tremendous job he did with the US Presidency! Unlike your monkey king, who will undoubtfully go down as one of the worst presidents in history!”

    What are the hallmarks of the Clinton Presidency? Clearly impeachment wasn’t one of them. I’m genuinely interested in what you think they are.

  9. 522

    momus spews:


    Keep talking you liberal pussy. I am curious, at what point did you become completely feminized?

  10. 523

    Commander Ogg spews:

    Insult him all you want, my neo-con friends and conservative enablers. He knew how to run the joint. The only reason the Flight-Suit-in-Chief has lasted this long is other people have been carrying his ass.

  11. 524


    @ 12

    Are you ConservativeFirst, but ‘ReadingSkillsLast’? Weren’t you paying attention during the 90’s?

    Balanced budget, poverty went way down, real income up, peace in Ireland, record corporate profits, biggest expansion of the US economy since Ike…

    Honoestly, CF, there’s so much and I don’t think you really give a shit, so I won’t continue to list them…

  12. 526


    Keep talking you liberal pussy. I am curious, at what point did you become completely feminized?

    You say “liberal pussy” like its a bad thing.

    What’s your problem with pussy, honey?

  13. 527

    Commander Ogg spews:


    Pray to your G-ds Mister, if you believe in any, that the FSIC and his #1 Turd Blossom can frighten enough of the sheep with this bullsh-t war talk to stay in power. If the Democrats can get there act together and take over either the House or Senate, two things will happen immediately.

    a) The congressional oversight committees will do something not seen in 5 years of Republican rulestart issuing subpoenas
    b) The President will need to stock up on depends™.

  14. 531

    JCH spews:

    32., Daddy Love, Didn’t Bill “Draft Dodger” Clinton attend, but did NOT graduate, Yale? [hehe]

  15. 532

    JCH spews:

    Who wants to hear a bunch of sissy, pussy, wimp Democrat liberals who can’t get dates? Ann Coulter would laugh at all of you!

  16. 534

    Daddy Love spews:

    On to Cheney’s miSsing e-mails…hmmmm…obstruction of justice, destroying evidence, conspiracy…any other ideas? It’s such a wonderful thing that we don’t have a competent, horny president any more but instead are saddled with a criminal gang “led” by the C+ Boy Wonder of Yale.

  17. 535

    Anonymous spews:

    re 29: These are the only two “elections” that have been held by the Supreme Court and Diebold. I’ll bet Chuck Hagel can get away with his criticisms of Bush because he can spill the beans on the Republican Diebold Scam if they get strident in their “getbacks”.

  18. 536

    Daddy Love spews:

    Let’s not forget that the Bullshit-Artist-in-Chief was elected in 2000 and again in 2004.

  19. 538

    Luigi Giovanni spews:

    Goldy, you overestimate the interest in your podcast. Instead of drinking liberally on Tuesday, go do something of real value. Do some volunteer work like Stefan.

  20. 540

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    I see Momus Pompous Assus wilfully has his head buried up his pompous assus again this morning. There’s NO COMPARISON between the Clinton and Bush presidencies. Dubya will be remembered as one of the least competent and most corrupt presidents of all time. Clinton probably will be remembered the most for Monica and impeachment, but his economic record is without parallel in modern history. Clinton left the country — and the US military — in good shape, and the Bushies dragged both into the sewer.

  21. 543

    momus spews:


    I’m surpirised you have time to comment, what with all the bullshit counciling you have with molestation victims and their families.

    Now, go formulate another lie which makes you some authority on a liberal discussion….

  22. 544


    If confronted by a rabid troll, DON’T try to capture it. Call the authorities and keep the kids inside. DO NOT explain the success of the Clinton record as he can’t understand logic. Avoid taking a stridently anti-Bush tack, as it will send him into a frothy, masterbatory rage.

  23. 546

    Janet S spews:

    I ask again – are you going to show some guts and support the Danes? Gerald has already declared that he is afraid the extremists might have their feelings hurt, so he isn’t. Either that, or he agrees with them.

  24. 548

    momus spews:

    Hey Skippy (Commander Ogg)..

    I keep hearing you women criticize this guy and he keeps outsmarting you and well, just rubbing you face in shit.

    Of course, that because of his advisors, or saturn in line with venus, or whatever EXCUSE you have for the day.

    Your a whinny minority that has lost, deal with it. Now get to work and pay your taxes bitch

  25. 550

    JCH spews:

    ANCHORAGE, Alaska (Reuters) – An oil tanker with 360,000 barrels capacity was struck by an ice floe and ran aground while loading oil products at an Alaska refinery on Thursday, causing a spill, a state official and the refining company said.

    “At this time we do not have an estimate as to the amount of product released,” refinery owner Tesoro Corp. said in a statement.

    The Tesoro-chartered double-hulled tanker, the Seabulk Pride, was loading heavy vacuum gas oil and unleaded gasoline from the refinery in Nikiski, Alaska, on the Cook Inlet, the company said. It said the ship was aground about half a mile

    north of the dock, and that the vessel’s tanks were secure.

    Ice conditions at the time of the accident were “extreme,” said Lynda Giguere of the Alaska Department of Environmental Conservation.

    She said two tugboats and a helicopter had been dispatched to the scene.

    In 1989, the Exxon Valdez supertanker grounded on a reef in Alaska’s Prince William Sound, spilling about 11 million gallons (50 million liters) of crude oil.
    [Quickly, 2000 Democrat Lawyers named Lowenstein, Loeb, Stern, Goldenstein, and Leiberburg have flown to Alaska with lawsuit forms in hand to “hunt” for clients!!]

  26. 551

    jaybo spews:

    Here is an article that provides a perfect example of what “radical liberal propaganda” does to children.

    “R.I. School Essay Brings in Secret Service
    Feb 02 2:34 PM US/Eastern WEST WARWICK, R.I.

    The Secret Service is investigating a seventh-grader who wrote a school essay that authorities say advocated violence against President Bush, talk show host Oprah Winfrey and others.

    The boy’s homework assignment for English class was to write what he would do on a perfect day. In addition to the president and Winfrey, the boy wrote that violence should be directed at executives of Coca- Cola and Wal-Mart, police and school officials said.

    “His perfect day would be to see the destruction of these people,” Schools Superintendent David Raiche said.

    The Secret Service investigation is ongoing, but the essay may have been a “cry for help,” said Thomas M. Powers, resident agent in charge in Providence. Threatening the president is a felony, he said.

    Authorities would not identify the boy or his teacher or release a copy of the essay. He was not arrested, police Detective Sgt. Fernando Araujo said.

    “It wasn’t any detailed, minute-by-minute plan,” Araujo said. “It didn’t meet the criteria for a criminal charge.”

    The boy has been temporarily barred from school, but as a mental health rather than disciplinary precaution, Raiche said.”

  27. 553

    Commander Ogg spews:


    20 years did I serve in combat service support for the Army of the United States. I was fortunate to miss 2 wars, including the present one, and five or six “police actions”, because with apologies to Mr. Rambo or the FSIC, you are not bulletproof, the enemy is not that bad a shot, and your weapon will run out of ammunition. I did my time, took my chances, and pretty much thank the Universe for my good fortune, and all my limbs intact.

    I have had to spend the last 3 years watching the nightly news as my fellow soldiers and marines (I was a Marine reservist before I joined the Army) are getting blown away two or three at a time because a lazy, selfish, alcoholic frat boy (who was born into the lucky sperm club) decided he had to show he was a bigger man then his daddy.

    2,382 Americans are dead, you idiot. Add this to the 2948 dead Americans in a terrorist attack that could have been prevented if King George and his sycophants didn’t have there heads up there ass. They are all responsible, Bush for ignoring the PDB’s, Rice for ignoring the Counter-Terrorism czar and the little Rummer boy for ignoring the Generals.

    I took an oath to die for my country. I did not take an oath to die stupidly. Tell me what those brave men and women are dying for? And when the last helicopter lifts off from the Baghdad airport 3, 5, or 10 years from now: when Iraq is transformed into an Islamic-fascist state ruled by proxy from Iran, you tell them their sacrifice was not in vain.

  28. 555

    momus spews:

    Ogg @ 40

    Dig this dmwit…..

    NO-ONE supports abandoning Iraq.

    This was already put to a vote and you liberla pussies would not vote on it at that time.

    All you do is bitch and criticize.

    You might want to change you name from Commander to ensign or possible Seniorita Ogg.

  29. 556

    Cougar spews:

    and what a disgrace during the SOTU…how could the ‘king wannabe’ mention President Clinton and himself in the same sentence? That is like comparing Mario Andretti with a DUI felon! (oh, the DUI part does stick with Bush)

  30. 557

    Cougar spews:

    and it sure breaks my heart that DeLay’s hand picked successor got ‘whipped’ in the RepubliCON’s elections. Too bad the CONs did not have the guts to put Shadegg into office, but then again, he might of actually done something to change the corruption in the GOP

  31. 558

    Drivel spews:

    jaybo, not once did I mention outlawing any religion. I specifically said they should ‘outlaw’ the brainwashing being done by religions trying to convert other denominations to their own specific religion. If a person believes in ‘whatever’ type of religion that is great by me. I am many things, but deffinitely not radical……..

  32. 559

    Commander Ogg spews:

    F*cked up the military, Mr. Yo? F*cked up the military?!?

    No, this is what happens when you have an incompetent b*stard as the Commander in Chief:

    Out of jail, into the Army
    Facing an enlistment crisis, the Army is granting “waivers” to an increasingly high percentage of recruits with criminal records — and trying to hide it.

    By Mark Benjamin
    Feb. 2, 2006 |

    “I parked and walked over to his car and got in and we were talking,” the future Air Guardsman later wrote. “He asked if I had any marijuana and I said yes, that I bought some in Wilmington, Del., earlier that day. He said he wanted some.” The drug dealer went on to recount in a Jan. 11, 2005, statement written to win admission into the military, “I walked back to my car [and] as soon as I got in my car an officer put his flashlight in the window and arrested me.”
    Under Air National Guard rules, the dealer had committed a “major offense” that would bar him from military service. Air National Guard recruits, like other members of the military, cannot have drug convictions on their record. But on Feb. 2, 2005, the applicant who had been arrested in the mini-mall was admitted into the Delaware Air National Guard. How? Through the use of a little-known, but increasingly important, escape clause known as a waiver. Waivers, which are generally approved at the Pentagon, allow recruiters to sign up men and women who otherwise would be ineligible for service because of legal convictions, medical problems or other reasons preventing them from meeting minimum standards.

  33. 560

    jaybo spews:

    The “Religion of Peace” strikes again.

    Muslims attack Indonesian pastor
    Voice of the Martyrs helps man get new teeth after machete assault

    Posted: February 3, 2006; 1:00 a.m. Eastern

    © 2006 WorldNetDaily.com

    Santoso’s new smile.
    “Santoso,” a farmer and a pastor for a small village church in Indonesia, was attacked on the way home after sharing Christ with Muslims on a farm in the city of Poso.
    He and a friend, both on motorbikes, were hit with a machete wielded by a Muslim who jumped from a bush. The Muslim tried to cut off his head but missed, hitting Santoso in the mouth. He ran to his village holding his face. Because of the attack, Santoso lost 10 teeth and damaged his tongue; his friend’s fingers were cut off. This was the third attempt on Santoso’s life.
    “The Voice of the Martyrs” medical staff has flown him to Java twice for treatment and is happy to report Santoso now has teeth implants. Before going into his last surgery, he told VOM: “I read Ephesians 1:19 which promises God’s great power to us who believe. God sends me power so I can bear suffering. We rejoice that one Muslim has come to Christ.”
    Christians across the 3,000 inhabited islands of Indonesia are suffering increased attacks, church burnings, imprisonment and threats from angry mobs because of their faith in Jesus Christ. Much of the world would like you to believe that Christians are no longer persecuted, but Santoso would disagree. Now you can stay informed of what is really happening to your Christian brothers and sisters in countries like Indonesia and discover practical ways that you can get involved.

  34. 561

    Drivel spews:

    In my opinion the should outlaw missionaries. Let everyone stay with their current religion and don’t continually try to ram yours down their throats. The Christians are probably more to blame than anyone. Who is to say whether Buddhism, Islam, Hinduism or Christianity is better? They are all handed down from mouth to mouth via stories and everyone knows how stories tend to change with the times. Example: GWB+WMD

  35. 563

    YO spews:


  36. 564

    YO spews:


  37. 565

    GS spews:

    YO go easy on Rabbitt, He and his friends have had a couple of pretty big defeats this week. :)))))))))

  38. 566

    jaybo spews:

    Drivel @ 55,

    An astounding response……

    Are you a student of history? Cause if you were, you would know that the Buddhist religion is their original religion. Islam came in sometime after in a wave of proselyizing.

    And then (of course) there is the good old USA that was predominantly a Christian Nation from its founding. Are you then saying that we should outlaw Islam in this country?

    And radical libs wonder why they are a political minority.