In this episode, Goldy and friends offer condolences to congressional candidate Darcy Burner over the loss of her house (and cat) earlier in the day. Next they dive into a multi-threaded discussion of the Washington state gubernatorial rematch, surrogate attack dogs, fake scandals and all. The podcast ends with a brief (roughly…seven word) tribute to the late George Carlin.
Goldy was joined by Seattle P-I columnist Joel Connelly, Seattle’s blogging pioneer N in Seattle, HorsesAss and EFFin’ Unsound’s Carl Ballard and HorsesAss’ former blogger emeritus Will.
The show is 51:19, and is available here as an MP3.
[audio:http://www.podcastingliberally.com/podcasts/podcasting_liberally_july_1_2008.mp3][Recorded live at the Seattle chapter of Drinking Liberally. Special thanks to creators Gavin and Richard for hosting the site.]
Wow Will I feel so special that I’m one of 80 people with an Italian surname in this state.
re 1: “Italians will eat anything. So will the French.”
“Don’t ever touch a Puerto Rican. You might catch something!”
Lessons learned at my Dad’s knee.
It’s a wonder that I came from that world to one where a guy named Barrack Obama is running for president. It makes me proud to be an American.
I remember why and how this nation was formed:
Why, OVER MASSIVE F’N TAXATION FROM ENGLAND
How, Boston F’n Tea party! and Guns are now totally legal to protect your self from F’n Thieves
Stay tune, what goes around comes around.
Actually, I’d bet the tea party wouldn’t even make to the first appeal nowdays. Ya win some and ya lose some. And we keep thinking tarrifs will help, when the real problem is, as my grandpa said: “trying to pile water in a bucket”!
There’s two things that might save us and the world. We need to judiciously make the bucket bigger with technology and we need to look at how the need can become smaller via health, peace, less poverty, and end with less need to fill the bucket.
We’re at least a century from finding another useful bucket.
Avoiding a duplicate post
re 3: If it is not too difficult for a fourth grader to understand that it was not the tea-tax that created the Revolution, but the principle that taxation without representation is morally wrong, then why can’t you?
The tea-tax was relatively modest. It was the method by which it was imposed that galled the Colonials. I’m amazed that you are so thick-witted that even into your adulthood, you can’t make this distinction that children barely out of primary school routinely make. It marks you as part of the Republican ‘base’.
The state tax on gas was VOTED UPON by the citizenry. The price you pay for a gallon of gas is the result of a scheme by a small elite to steal your money and give you nothing in return. People like you are the stinking albatross around the neck of humanity.
Happy Fourth! Have another Bud and hold on to that lit cherry-bomb just a little longer.
GREAT NEWS! That right wing traitor and famous KKK supporter Jesse Helms has finally gone on his trip to Hell! The old fuck finally had the good sense to die and make this a better world! Good riddance – now – let’s see who we can find to follow his lead? How bout you CynCyn – you’re an old fuck just stealing air here – why don’t you go see your pal?
Be real careful here guys…. I’m gonna collect everything you say about Helms and throw it right back at you when Ted The Swimmer dies in a few months.
go ahead…
re 8: Yeah, riiight…. Like you would have expressed regret if only we’d have respected Jesse Helms.
Tell you what: Give me one reason to respect Jesse Helms.
@8 Be real careful here Redneck … comparing Helms to Kennedy is like comparing Satan to Christ.
The “R” after a politician’s name means “Reject” and after November will mean “Repudiated.”
When Ted Kennedy dies, we’re going to use it to shove universal health care down some Republican throats. I mean, to honor Edward Kennedy’s commitment to the ideal.
Now that Jesse Helms died, I can imagine black people in the Carolinas cheering.
Another Republican Management Failure
An inspector general’s review concluded the government’s passport files on 120 million Americans is unprotected and virtually anyone can access the personal information in those files.
The review was prompted by people digging through the files of presidential candidates.
On this 4th of July, I don’t want to hear a fucking word from you assholes about your “patriotism”.
If you really cared about this country, you’d at least understand what makes us great. Your european socialist vision ain’t it.
Why would anyone put Republican dipshits in charge of anything?
“Republican”: A noun in the American idiom of the English language; refers to a discredited political ideology; implies incompetence and dishonesty. Synonyms: Idiots, morons, fools, screwups, dingbats, dumbasses, dipshits.
@14 The right of every citizen to vote makes us great. Wait til November and you’ll see. After being dragged through a sewer by Republicans for 8 years, America will become a great country again in January 2009, when patriots are once again back in charge.
The term “patriot” will need some rehabilitation because Republicans have misused the term to mean “thief,” “draft dodger,” “liar,” “warmonger,” “traitor,” “criminal,” and “torturer.”
Hey Redneck! Pay your gambling debt, you dishonorable unpatriotic welshing fuck!!!
Anyone who really cares about this country will kick the first Republican he sees in the nuts. The best time to kick a Republican is when he’s down! But any time will do.
FactCheck.org: McCain & GOP Lied About Obama’s Votes
“McCain and the GOP falsely imply that Obama has pushed indiscriminately to raise taxes for nearly everybody.”
“The McCain campaign and the Republican National Committee both claim that Obama has voted 94 times ‘for higher taxes.’ … After looking at every one of the 94 votes that the RNC includes in its tally, we find:
“Twenty-three were for measures that would have produced no tax increase at all ….
“Seven of the votes were in favor of measures that would have lowered taxes for many, while raising them on a relative few, either corporations or affluent individuals.
“Eleven votes the GOP is counting would have increased taxes on those making more than $1 million a year – in order to fund programs such as Head Start and school nutrition programs, or veterans’ health care.
“The GOP sometimes counted two, three and even four votes on the same measure. We found their tally included a total of 17 votes on seven measures, effectively padding their total by 10.
“The majority of the 94 votes – 53 of them, including some mentioned above – were on budget measures, not tax bills, and would not have resulted in any tax change. Four other votes were non-binding motions related to conference report negotiations.”
Source: Newsweek
(Quoted under fair use.)
Speaking of patriots – here’s a link to some patriots who gave that draft-dodging, coke-snorting, dui-driving coward Bush what he had coming!
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25530432/
And Mark the Coward you are indeed a patriot – a patriot of the good old ways of Hitler, Stalin and other tyrants who’ve tried and failed to rule the world as dictators. Just like your boy Monkeyface Bush failed. Eat that shit you turd and die!
The world is indeed a better place without Jesse Helms. I’m celebratin’ most def.
But another Republican kook in the Senate, Tom Coburn, has followed in Helms’ footsteps and may be even worse.
http://www.politico.com/news/s...../7310.html
A one man obstruction machine.
@22 From MSNBC:
“Shouts from protesters were heard during Bush’s remarks, and the president responded by saying he agrees that ‘we believe in free speech in the United States of America.'”
Does he mean like this?
“In the months before the 2004 election, dozens of people across the nation were banished from or arrested at Bush political rallies, some for heckling the president, others simply for holding signs or wearing clothing that expressed opposition to the war and administration policies. Similar things have happened at official, taxpayer-funded, presidential visits, before and after the election. Some targeted by security have been escorted from events, while others have been arrested and charged with misdemeanors that were later dropped by local prosecutors.”
(USA Today)
“The public spectacle of former CIA analyst Ray McGovern almost being hauled out of a Rumsfeld speech for the thought crime of asking a question reminds us of the good old ‘pre-9/11 mentality’ days when George W. Bush had Alex Jones arrested and kidnapped by Texas police for the same offence.
“During a 1998 Bush rally and speech at DuPont Photomask Facility, Alex asks the following question. ‘Sir, shouldn’t we abolish the Federal Reserve and the CFR? That’s the real reality that none of you will talk about and most of you are members. That’s what’s destroying this country governor. Don’t you stand for America sir? What about the Federal Reserve and the CFR?’
“Alex is then grabbed by Texas police, taken outside and handcuffed. The cameraman is threatened as he films the entire incident. Afterwards, Alex was kidnapped and driven around for half an hour before being thrown out on the side of the road. All for the crime of asking a question.”
(PrisonPlanet.com)
And then, of course, there were the numerous people who were ejected from (and in some cases arrested) Bush’s “town hall” meetings on Social Security — at which it was, apparently, a criminal offense to oppose dismantling the Social Security system.
The Bush administration is now reduced to hoping that weak labor markets hold inflation in check. BTW, they’ve gamed the official inflation statistics, and they’re lying about the inflation rate. Among other effects, this holds down Social Security colas.
Yep … they’re balancing the budget on the backs of vulnerable seniors to protect their tax breaks for billionaires — isn’t that just like the Republicans?
14 MTR
I’m signing up to take patriotism lessons from you!
not.
Matt Yglesias:
OK, OK, I get it. John McCain is a Bush-loving traditional conservative, and Barack Obama is the change we all need to move forward.
re 15: And your European Corporate Fascism is? The American Revolution was about stickin’ it to a liberty-hating English Corporate Monarchy.
OK shitheel @ 8-
Helms was a hateful bigot, a virulent homophobe, and an obstrucionist pig. He was no friend of women, young people or the American Worker.
Just your kind of guy you miserable piece of crap.
John McCain supported and cheered on our invasion of Iraq. McCain co-sponsored the Authorization For Use of Military Force Against Iraq resolution that got us in there (Obama voted against it).
John McCain STILL thinks the invasion of Iraq was a good idea.
John McCain believed, and said, that “the Iraqi people will greet us as liberators.”
John McCain said that Iraqi oil reserves would cover the cost of war.
John McCain said he doesn’t mind American troops staying in Iraq for 100 years (plus however long we have to occupy their country before US casualties are reduced to zero).
On this, the most important foreign policy question of our time, and in the very area where John McCain has insisted that he possesses superior qualifications (as opposed to the many where he has no knowledge or qualifications at all, such as the economy), John McCain has been completely and consistently wrong for the last six years.
And Barack Obama on Iraq?
The candidate in this race who was RIGHT, the candidate in this race with the superior qualifications in foreign policy, is Barack Obama.
Obama sounds like the REAL partiot to me.
For me:
“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.”
“We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.”
Happy Independence Day, y’all.
Suck down the Brewskis of Freedom and grill the Brats of Liberty.