Sign the petition to demand new leadership at FEMA

We, the undersigned, know that we need new leadership at FEMA to get New Orleans and the Gulf Coast back on its feet, and demand that President Bush replace FEMA Director Michael Brown with competent, qualified leadership.

Sign the petition.

Comments

  1. 2

    HowCanYouBePROUDtobeAnASS spews:

    Where are the petitions to replace Rove, Rumsfeld, Rice, Gonzales, etc? -Comment by yearight— 9/7/05 @ 10:15 pm

    They were signed, sealed and delivered last November with the re-election of the President and the subsequent confirmations by the Congress.

    Get over it.

  2. 3

    enough_of_this_bullshit spews:

    Why don’t you wait until all the facts are in or do you want to be just like USP? uninspiring

  3. 4

    Janet S spews:

    FOX news is reporting that there was food and water staged for relief of the Superdome and arena, but the governor’s office blocked its distribution. Sounds like FEMA was prepared, but prevented from doing its job.

    I agree with 3. But why wait for facts when you can try to score cheap political points?

  4. 5

    HowCanYouBePROUDtobeAnASS spews:

    The facts are in BUSH WON.
    He got to CHOOSE.
    His choices were CONFIRMED.

    You can type petitions till the cows come home, but until such time as they no longer desire to serve or he no longer desires their services … THERE AIN’T A SINGLE DAMNED THING YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT AND YOUR WHINING IS B O R I N G!

    GET
    OVER
    IT.

    BUSH WON.

    And I still have the button:
    BUSH-CHENEY ’04
    VICTORY NIGHT, NOV 2, 2004
    I PARTIED WITH THE WINNERS!

  5. 6

    horse whisperer spews:

    ASS, glad that you are proud of the button for the presidency that will will go down in history for the carnage in NO and the dumping gounds of pure political hacks.

  6. 8

    Aaron spews:

    Hey Ass,

    Congratulations. You pretty much exemplify what the GOP is all about, power serving selfishness. Who cares if the cronies are competent, they are of the same ideology! It doesn’t matter anyhow since the real goal is to shrink government and the services it should provide to the point where they can be “drowned in the bathtub”.

    Bush the sock puppet says he doesn’t have anything against blacks. I believe him. I think he’s happy to serve anyone who can consider themselves part of the “haves” or the “have mores” regardless of skin color. Poor people who don’t have a ride out of town, and who are fearful of leaving what little they have domain over unprotected and abandoned, in the light of pure chaos, they are on their own. Oh but now that they have made it to the Houston Astrodome, mom says “And so many of the people in the arena here, you know, were underprivileged anyway, so this is working very well for them.”

    Nice.

    Good for you and your power sucking ass clan.

  7. 9

    HowCanYouBePROUDtobeAnASS spews:

    Care to make wager on that, sweetcheeks?

    The crying Governor will be long gone before the next presidential election – her term (in effect already over) is up in 07. When what’s left of her constituency compare what happened in their state while she dithered to Alabama and Mississippi, she’ll be lucky to get out with a past, let alone a future.

    I don’t remember when the hapless Mayor Nagin is up again, but when the citizens compare/remember him side by side with the “Rajin Cajun” Russel Honoré, Commanding General of the First U.S. Army who has made Nagin look like an ineffectual, hand wringing old woman, he better hope he can get his old job back in the cable business.

    Regarding the President, yep his “ratings” may fall a bit.

    Whoop de doo.

    Quoting a pundit, now:

    “He’s been politically bruised by his administration’s response to Katrina but hardly crippled.”

    “But the simple fact of governing in Washington is that popularity is not a measure of power. In the late ’90s, President Clinton’s approval rating stayed well above 60%, even after he was impeached. But Mr. Clinton had almost no clout. True, this was partly because he faced a Republican Congress. A Bush aide was accurate (if self-serving) in drawing the distinction this way: “The difference is between polls in the 40s and changing history and being in the 60s and twiddling your thumbs. We’ll take the 40s. That’s our motto.” “

  8. 10

    JDB spews:

    ProudtobeAnAss:

    Yep, Bush ran a campaign claiming that he would make this country safe if we elected him. You are right, he appointed the people who are in charge. And when their first test came, they failed utterly.

    You would have to proud to be an ass to be proud of that.

    Goldy:

    Lets get real, Bush will give Mike Brown a medal. It is what he does to anyone who fails in his administration. He is to small of a man to ever admit that he made a mistake or that he was wrong. Hell, he is probably still looking for WMA in his office. Let’s not forget what Nancy Pelosi told us:

    “She related that she had urged Bush at the White House on Tuesday to fire Michael Brown…

    ”He said ‘Why would I do that?”’ Pelosi said.

    ”’I said because of all that went wrong, of all that didn’t go right last week.’ And he said ‘What didn’t go right?”'”

    http://www.crooksandliars.com/.....html#a4839

    Yep, Michael Brown, for your amazing service to this country, and for comitting such a blunder that even the failures in Iraq have been moved to the back page, you are our next Medal of Freedom recipient!

  9. 12

    HowCanYouBePROUDtobeAnASS spews:

    Crooks and Liars…HorsesAss… how nice you all have TWO sites on which you can feel right at home!

  10. 14

    fire_one spews:

    ASS – …again with the “I got mine. Fuck you.” RepubliCon theme song…. Getting a little old…

  11. 15

    HowCanYouBePROUDtobeAnASS spews:

    Yep, because they expose people like you. -Comment by JDB— 9/7/05 @ 11:20 pm

    Perhaps, but only to that 2% kook fringe minority of yours, babe, whereas mainstream America is getting to see a whole ‘lotta’ kook fringe lately and kiddo, they like it even less now than they did when it was exemplified by kook fringies of Gore and Kerry.

    So please, keep up the good work.

  12. 16

    HowCanYouBePROUDtobeAnASS spews:

    ASS – …again with the “I got mine. Fuck you.” RepubliCon theme song…. Getting a little old… -Comment by fire_one— 9/7/05 @ 11:27 pm

    As opposed to the ‘Hate Bush/Blame Bush so “Fuck you”‘noisy 2% fringie nutburger theme song?

  13. 17

    fire_one spews:

    ASS – the only kook fringe around is the Extreme Right Wing Fasco-Religio Extremist Fringe we see around you and your Chimpanzee in Chief…

  14. 18

    fire_one spews:

    ASS – We really only want to do the right thing. And that would be: put chimpboy in prison… But, as BushCo owns the House, the Senate, and SCOTUS, it’s not likely to happen…

  15. 20

    JDB spews:

    It is not looking good for Bush. People are not putting up with his incompetence any more:

    “Just 28% of Americans give say that the federal government has done a good or an excellent job responding to Hurricane Katrina. Another 25% say the government has done a fair job while 45% say poor.”

    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/2005/Katrina.htm

    70% of the population say a fair to poor job. Heck, even Rove might not be able to lie their way out of this.

  16. 21

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    2, 4

    You’re sooo right … you guys won … people died. Lots of people.

    9/11 – ignored warnings, 2800 dead
    Iraq – Bush lied, 1900 died
    NOLA – No leadership, no action – ? dead

  17. 22

    michael spews:

    The governor still won’t let the mayor evacuate the city.
    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,168644,00.html

    This is something that should have been done nearly 2 weeks ago.

    The State Homeland Security Department (not part of the federal Department of Homeland Security) would not let the Red Cross and other agencies to deliver supplies when it was needed most at the Superdome and Convention Centers, and in fact still won’t let any aid into New Orleans.

    http://www.redcross.org/faq/0,.....24,00.html

    How do you help someone who refuses to be helped? The Governor is playing some kind of political game, she doesn’t want to be seen as the Democrat who sold out to Bush. She needs to get out of the way and let the recovery happen.

  18. 23

    Puddybud spews:

    Good job Michael. I was going to link that Red Cross site to HA because they are asses of pack horses. Here is the transcript to the Fox story by Major Garrett. http://www.radioblogger.com/#000967

    But again FEMA kept the Red Cross out of NO, not the mayor or the guvnor. Nope FEMA did. Well ask any Daily Kos, Think Progress or SeattleAss oops… Horsesass!

    Excerpt: “HH: You just broke a pretty big story. I was watching up on the corner television in my studio, and it’s headlined that the Red Cross was blocked from delivering supplies to the Superdome, Major Garrett. Tell us what you found out.

    MG: Well, the Red Cross, Hugh, had pre-positioned a literal vanguard of trucks with water, food, blankets and hygiene items. They’re not really big into medical response items, but those are the three biggies that we saw people at the New Orleans Superdome, and the convention center, needing most accutely. And all of us in America, I think, reasonably asked ourselves, geez. You know, I watch hurricanes all the time. And I see correspondents standing among rubble and refugees and evacuaees. But I always either see that Red Cross or Salvation Army truck nearby. Why don’t I see that?

    HH: And the answer is?

    MG: The answer is the Louisiana Department of Homeland Security, that is the state agency responsible for that state’s homeland security, told the Red Cross explicitly, you cannot come. – Hey HorsesAss assholes, the real first responders were ready, but they were blocked. Do you get it or are you dunces? The peanut gallery collectively says: “We’re dunces!”

    HH: Now Major Garrett, on what day did they block the delivery? Do you know specifically?

    MG: I am told by the Red Cross, immediately after the storm passed.

    HH: Okay, so that would be on Monday afternoon.

    MG: That would have been Monday or Tuesday. The exact time, the hour, I don’t have. But clearly, they had an evacuee situation at the Superdome, and of course, people gravitated to the convention center on an ad hoc basis. They sort of invented that as another place to go, because they couldn’t stand the conditions at the Superdome.

    HH: Any doubt in the Red Cross’ mind that they were ready to go, but they were blocked?

    MG: No. Absolutely none. They are absolutely unequivocal on that point.”

  19. 24

    Puddybud spews:

    Yeah, I expected the blog to block the post. Bottom line until Goldy releases it, the Red Cross was ready at the Superdome, but were blocked by the mayur and guvnur! But FEMA did it. WRONG! w w w . r a d i o b l o g g e r . c o m / # 0 0 0 9 6 7

  20. 25

    PacMan spews:

    Aaron, if you are “black” I can see you be of the Jesse Jackson hate America club. If you ain’t black don’t speak like us because you be stupid too. You see, I am black, proud of it and I am conservative. On another thread I was told I had to worship the altar of evil. Well that’s liberal hate at the FIRST DEGREE!

    For the record lefty asses more whites were affected in LA than blacks. They all got the same treatment from FEMA. The racists are the mayur and the guvnur. I went to those sites and read the transcripts. Why can’t you all admit you are wrong as the light cometh forth. Pud is right. As the Light of God illuminates these fecal people in the guvnur and mayur offices, the more fetid the water becums.

  21. 26

    Puddybud spews:

    When the great response post is released it will be #19.

    JDB: You really demonstrate your colors from whence your information comes from. The Red Cross says LA stopped them and you cross reference crooks and liars. Hah HA Hah HA hah!

    Check on the Internet about the three Duke University guys who personally witnessed some of the city buses leaving the city empty. If you took the time to fully investigate you’d see the truth. But the truth and being a lefty HorsesAss are diametrically opposed actions.

    Now that the Demo leadership seeing the President is not being blamed by the populace, they came out in force yesterday. More asses!

  22. 27

    PacMan spews:

    Bill Clinton is a real piece of work. He just can’t leave the spotlight. “If it was me…” Shut up Bill Clinton!!!

  23. 28

    Puddybud spews:

    Here is a real American, Captain Ed who sums it up.

    “It’s worth noting that the Red Cross agrees with the decision to make the Superdome available to those residents seeking refuge from the storm, an endorsement of Nagin’s decision to open the arena. However, to open the Dome and then refuse to allow the Red Cross to stock it with the supplies necessary to keep the people inside healthy makes no sense whatsoever.

    It’s also worth noting that the Red Cross gets more access to the detainees at Guantanamo Bay than the people still stuck inside New Orleans.

    Once again, we have more evidence that the problems in getting relief to Louisianans stuck inside the New Orleans basin directly relate to decisions made at the state and local level, not federal — and that the people in charge of the overall effort have been and continue to be Mayor Nagin and Governor Blanco. The meme blaming Bush for Hurricane Katrina continues to fall apart, even without wide coverage of the facts by the Exempt Media.

    Let’s see if we can’t paint the picture for Rev. Bobby K in the comments. FEMA positioned their assets in the area prior to the storm hitting, but not inside the impact zone, as that would have rendered them useless afterwards. A major component of that comes from the Red Cross. The Red Cross expected that either the local authorities would get the last of its citizens out of New Orleans or allow them to set up their relief provisions inside the city. To this day, the city and state have done neither, nor have they allowed the federal government to take control of the relief effort to make these decisions themselves. That means that the Red Cross personnel (and the relief provisions that FEMA helped them stage) have no way to reach those in the city anywhere, including the Superdome, the Convention Center, or any of the other shelters in New Orleans. Until Nagin and Blanco allow them to go to the victims or act to bring the victims out to them, the residents will not see any relief supplies except that dropped to them by air, a dicey proposition at best when facing toxic flood waters.”

    But what does Goldy and lefties care about good reporting. It doesn’t blame FEMA and Bush.

  24. 30

    PacMan spews:

    You lefties would be complaining left and right if the US went into NO without approval by the guvnur. The Feds wanted to federalize the LA-NG to get the relief going but guv Blanco said no! She said she wanted her LA-NG to do police work and if federalized the Posse Comatitus law disallows this!

    The local govmint takes care of local health, safety, and morals per the US Constitution.

  25. 32

    PacMan spews:

    I’ll join righton on that petition. I dare Goldy to reword the thread topic. If he did that would be the first wholesome thing Goldy has done in a while. I take that back. I read he took his daughter to visit the family back east. It would be the second one.

  26. 33

    Libertarian spews:

    Here’s a little something someone sent me. I hope it “pasts” OK.

    case you aren’t familiar with how the city, state, and federal governments are SUPPOSED to work, the chain of responsibility for the protection of the citizens in New Orleans is:

    1. The Mayor
    2. The New Orleans director of Homeland Security (a political appointee of the Governor who reports to the Governor)
    3. The Governor
    4. The Head of Homeland Security
    5. The President

    What did each do?

    1. The mayor, with 5 days advance notice, waited until 2 days before he announced a mandatory evacuation (at the behest of the President). Then he failed to provide transportation for those without transportation even though he had hundreds of buses at his disposal. Finally, he had the gall to publicly denounce President Bush for “sitting on his butt” and not doing anything.

    2. The New Orleans director of Homeland Security failed to have any plan for a contingency that has been discussed for 50 years. Then he blames the Feds for not doing what he should have done. (So much! for political appointees)

    3. The Governor, despite a declaration of disaster by the President 2 DAYS BEFORE the storm hit, failed to take advantage of the offer of Federal troops and aid. Until 2 DAYS AFTER the storm hit.

    4. The Director of Homeland Security positioned assets in the area to be ready when the Governor called for them

    5. The President urged a mandatory evacuation, and even declared a disaster State of Emergency, freeing up millions of dollars of federal assistance, should the Governor decide to use it.

    Oh and by the way, the levees that broke were the responsibility of the local landowners and the local levee board to maintain, NOT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. However, Federal monies were provided for the city of New Orleans to be used in the securing of the levees, over the past years, and it was redirected and spent elsewhere.

    OK, I guess that sums it up.

  27. 34

    rujax206 spews:

    Worst. President. Ever.

    “President George W. Bush’s overall response to Katrina meets with disapproval today – a dramatic change from the public’s reaction just after the storm hit on August 29th. Last week, in the two days immediately after Katrina made landfall, a majority of Americans said they approved of Bush’s response, although more than a third were not sure. Now, only 38% approve. A majority disapproves.” (from CBS News)

    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories.....4591.shtml

    “And now I’m freeeeee
    Free Fallin’ (free fallin’ I’m free fallin’}

    And now I’m freeeeee
    Free Fallin’ (free fallin’ I’m free fallin’}” Tom Petty

  28. 35

    Puddybud spews:

    ATJ: Interesting link. So Bush wanted to kill more whites than blacks. More Interesting Still. Another site previously linked said FEMA was putting their resources outside the storm area for use. The Red Cross basically said the same thing on their web site. So what does this prove?

  29. 36

    Puddybud spews:

    And ABC News says 55% don’t blame Bush and ABC/CNN says 48% approval rating. So what rujax206?

  30. 38

    rujax206 spews:

    It’s called negligent homocide, trolls.

    Cheney/Bush and the Mayberry Machiavelli’s are guilty, guilty, guilty. And so are you if you support them. Man…I wish Jack McCoy was a real prosecutor…or maybe Harry Connick’s daddy will unretire.

    EVERYBODY in this country will be touched by this tragedy. EVERYBODY knows SOMEBODY who will have a real story about what went on. Your paid trolls and state controlled media WILL NOT be able to manage this for the RNC.

    NOLA is chimpy’s blue dress…and a pretty blue dress it is, too.(I wonder if Cheney will make chimpy WEAR it. the Dick would probably want to make chimpy walk the plank over this).

    I gotta hand it to y’all…you guys fuck up bigger, better and faster than we do. Great Job! How to destroy a political party in just 6 years. Nice.

    P.S. Hey Packy-At least the Big Dog got a bj. chimpy prob’ly hasn’t gotten laid since the last time the “girls” from Odessa were at the “Ranch”.

  31. 40

    rujax206 spews:

    2 entries found for vaunt.
    To select an entry, click on it.
    vaunt[1,verb]vaunted

    Main Entry: 1vaunt
    Pronunciation: ‘vont, ‘vänt
    Function: verb
    Etymology: Middle English, from Middle French vanter, from Late Latin vanitare, frequentative of (assumed) Latin vanare, from Latin vanus vain
    intransitive senses : to make a vain display of one’s own worth or attainments : BRAG
    transitive senses : to call attention to pridefully and often boastfully synonym see BOAST

    Rujax…THE full-service comment poster!

  32. 41

    rujax206 spews:

    And I still have the button:
    BUSH-CHENEY ‘04
    VICTORY NIGHT, NOV 2, 2004
    I PARTIED WITH THE WINNERS!

    You mean killers.

  33. 42

    rujax206 spews:

    The Democratic National Committee chairman, Howard Dean, said this could be a transitional moment for his party. “This is deeply disturbing to a lot of Americans, because it’s more than thousands of people who get killed; it’s about the destruction of the American community,” he said. “The idea that somehow government didn’t care until it had to for political reasons. It’s appalling.”

  34. 43

    rujax206 spews:

    “Now, for you people who are saying, `Well, stop pointing fingers at the president…left-wing…the media’s being too hard:

    No. SHUT…UP! No! This is inarguably—inarguably—a failure of leadership from the top of the federal government.

    Remember when Bill Clinton went out with Monica Lewinsky? That was inarguably a failure of judgment at the top. Democrats had to come out and risk losing credibility if they did not condemn Bill Clinton for his behavior. I believe Republicans are in the same position right now. And I will say this: Hurricane Katrina is George Bush’s Monica Lewinsky. The only difference is that tens of thousands of people weren’t stranded in Monica Lewinsky’s vagina.”
    –Jon Stewart

  35. 44

    klake spews:

    For you folks who are in for a different view, Wabbit,headless lucy, etc. This state has been faceing the same problems but nobody is listening to the messenger, but instead follow the piper who lacks vision to make anything happen. That could go against the views of the local webmasters who uses filters to kill the thoughts of the messengers. You know Wabbit Political Correctness it snuffs people who communicates like you, but not Headless Lucy.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09.....wanted=all

    “When it was still unclear which way Hurricane Ivan would go, school system employees on school system time driving school system vehicles using school system materials were sent to board up the superintendent’s house.”

    That superintendent left (and not a moment too soon), but the abject neglect of the young remained. Long before the hurricane, the children of New Orleans had been failed by the adults responsible for them, starting in many cases with their parents and going right on up through their teachers, city officials, state officials and a national administration that sees the kids mostly as objects – totems – to be hugged during campaign photo-ops.

  36. 45

    Puddybud spews:

    Yeah rujax206, right. WRONG! Jon Stewart is you news source on Cemedy Central. Yes, liberal thought is a comedy. Another Bush hater not looking at the facts.

    Here is what the world thinks about poor blacks – cannibals – stated by another black. Who said this? Liberal black man!

    http://www.nationalreview.com/.....060945.asp

  37. 46

    IDGAF spews:

    Hey Rujax! Have you ever ever had an original thought that you can articulate in your life? Every post, on every thread from you contains cut and pasted opinions or links followed by your childish name calling. Are you about 15, or just suffering from a serious psychiatric disorder as I suspect. And who ccares besides the loony left what How-Wierd Dean has to say. At least Bill Frist (also a MD) was down there examining patients while old How-Wierd did nothing. Just like the democratic governor.

  38. 47

    michael spews:

    @43 – No. SHUT…UP! No! This is inarguably—inarguably—a failure of leadership from the top of the federal government.

    Sure, if you ignore the fact that the people delivering aid were turned away at gunpoint by the Louisiana National Guard under the command of the Governor. What was Bush supposed to do, come in, guns blazing, and kill the obstructionist governor and her troops?

  39. 48

    Puddybud spews:

    But isn’t he Dr. Howard Dean? All talk and no medicinal help!

    Rujax call the great doctor and ask about his medicinal help?

  40. 50

    rujax206 spews:

    “Hey Rujax! Have you ever ever had an original thought that you can articulate in your life?”

    Why…yes, Maybe ten-twelve months ago. How ’bout you?

  41. 52

    rujax206 spews:

    Jeez-

    I guess I’m hittin’ a little close to home…AAAHHH watching these incompetent, racist, thieving bastards self-destruct is a BEAUTIFUL thing.

    P.S. pudless-I’ll take Comedy Central over KVI, Lush Rimjob, Wingnut Daily or Little green Fuckballs any day.

    P.P.S. idON’TgIVEafUCKIfILookLikeAnIdiot-

    I thought THIS was pretty original:

    “The Cheney/Bush administration-When it absolutely POSITIVELY has to be fucked-up OVERNIGHT!”

    So while the Dick was house shopping junior was on his own…The Dick is NOT HAPPY when he returns. Let’s listen in:

    Cheney: Shit! Junior…you really ARE an imbecile. I leave you alone for one month. FOUR FUCKING WEEKS! You can’t even handle that. Fuck! Just what were you doing? Where the fuck was Karl, anyway. Karl. KARL! Weren’t you WATCHING him??? Who let him get close to those reporters? And that GUITAR…and the FUCKING BLACK PEOPLE. Rove…if you can’t keep a muzzle on your moron here I’ll cut off your shriveled nuts and feed ‘em to the fucking alligators. Fuck! Allbaugh’s already down there. We got some SERIOUS BANK to make and about six month’s to nail it down. And none…I mean NONE of you hayseeds are going to fuck it up. Am I making myself CLEAR! Fuck…you bastards are gonna give me another attack. Shit. You morons ALMOST totally queered this deal. Idiots. Rove…get the press under control and I mean NOW. Get junior here out looking…presidential. SHUT UP!!! I don’t CARE how you do it. Just fucking DO it. Your supposed to be the fucking genius…THINK OF SOMETHING. Powell…Powell. We still got something on him don’t we? Get hin the fuck out there. He’s the right fucking color, too. We need cover, and we need it NOW. No more fuckups you understand? All of you? Junior??? Now get going…I want to see assholes and elbows! BIG TIME!!!

    Comment by rujax206— 9/7/05 @ 10:04 pm

    Didn’t you?

  42. 57

    rujax206 spews:

    Ohhhh…newsmax. NEWSMAX!

    Ooooh I’m sceeeeered.

    Nnnnnewwwwsssmmmmaxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx…

  43. 58

    Puddybud spews:

    Just as good as those lefty sources!!! But for Clueless I am waiting to implement Free Republic sources.

  44. 60

    Jon spews:

    For the Clueless @ 51: Glad to see Louisiana’s congressional delegation working as hard as FEMA:

    “But over the five years of President Bush’s administration, Louisiana has received far more money for Corps civil works projects than any other state, about $1.9 billion; California was a distant second with less than $1.4 billion, even though its population is more than seven times as large.

    Much of that Louisiana money was spent to try to keep low-lying New Orleans dry. But hundreds of millions of dollars have gone to unrelated water projects demanded by the state’s congressional delegation and approved by the Corps, often after economic analyses that turned out to be inaccurate. Despite a series of independent investigations criticizing Army Corps construction projects as wasteful pork-barrel spending, Louisiana’s representatives have kept bringing home the bacon.”

  45. 61

    Puddybud spews:

    Oh no, the WaPo is looking at it now! http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....62_pf.html – “For example, after a $194 million deepening project for the Port of Iberia flunked a Corps cost-benefit analysis, Sen. Mary Landrieu (D-La.) tucked language into an emergency Iraq spending bill ordering the agency to redo its calculations.”

  46. 65

    For the Clueless spews:

    58 – Hmm. the target has shifted from Nagin and Blanco already. Rove knows what he’s doing.

  47. 66

    Puddybud spews:

    Clueless, Rujax, et. al. Deflecting blame. No you’re creating blame! Blame for something not only untrue but created by the LA guvnur! She blocked the relief effort and you lefties can’t get that through them tin-foil covered concrete laden skulls.

  48. 68

    Aaron spews:

    PacMan @ 25:

    The point is, it doesn’t really matter if I’m black, you’re black, or the people on the TV screen in NOLA are black. The point is that the people most in need of help are not the “haves” or the “have mores”, AKA by Bush himself as “my people”. He could give a rats ass about the poor in our communities, he was taught that they are better off when they get flooded out of their meager homes and are left sitting on a cot in the Astrodome waiting for handouts.

    Better leadership not founded in an ideology that regards federal governance as a bad idea in general could have made a difference before the disaster struck. But he’d rather patronize his base by giving vital jobs to cronies.

    NOLA is part of our national economy. Federal tax dollars are collected from oil companies. Oil companies win concessions that have impact on the community, such as the dredging and draining of wetland buffers between the ocean and the city. Federal tax revenues are misdirected towards oil company driven agendas, such as the cockamamie idea of trying to establish a bastion of US derived democracy in an oil producing region halfway around the world, when they should be spent on better highways and levees, amongst other things. Bush is interested in serving power, not burgeoning lower classes.

  49. 69

    JDB spews:

    It is amazing how the wrongboy and the other wingnuts so happily excuse the tragic erros of the federal government. After all, Bush entire campaign was that he could keep this country safe. I really doubt the Blanco and Nagin ran on that.

    It is also amazing to me how the wingnuts ignore what Homeland Security and FEMA say their own jobs are. For instance:

    “But Chertoff’s September 1 statement ignored the administration’s own homeland security response plan, which directed the federal government to act on its own authority to quickly provide assistance and conduct emergency operations following a major catastrophe, pre-empting state and local authorities if necessary. According to DHS’ December 2004 National Response Plan (NRP), “catastrophic events,” such as what occurred in New Orleans, call for heightened and “proactive” federal involvement to manage the disaster. The response plan listed “guiding principles” to govern the response to these major events. The “Guiding Principles for Proactive Federal Response” make clear that, in these “catastrophic” cases, the federal government will operate independently to provide assistance, rather than simply supporting or cajoling state authorities[.]”

    http://mediamatters.org/items/200509080002 (which also lists corrections for other rightwing lies like those being put forward by wrongboy and others).

    As for the Red Cross mishap. Who is responsible for coordianting agencies in a catastrophic disaster? That’s right, it’s FEMA.

    Could the local politicians have done better, probably yes. However, that doesn’t effect me here in the Pacific Northwest. When the next big Earthquake hits, be it here or in CA, you better hope and pray that it occurs after ’08 when we have competent leadership. From what we have seen so far, the Feds, even with four years of concentration on homeland security, can’t handle a catastrophy. Based upon the people Bush has appointed to oversee these problems, it is quite clear that it is not that important to him.

  50. 70

    Puddybud spews:

    Drooling the truth rujax. Hah HA hah HA hah!

    Here’s one for your small mind rujax. You may need to read this twice becuz your small pea-sized brain may need extra processing time. Richard Cohen WaPo columnist said John Roberts is unqualified because he hasn’t failed. Cohen said he failed in school joined the army. Well we know Howard Dean failed and he now leads your party. We know John Kerry failed in his candidacy and he is an elder spokesman for your party. We know Teddy Kennedy failed life saving and he speaks for your party regarding everything.

    So why are you all pissed off because Mike Brown failed to react 24 hours sooner? By the Richard Cohen definition you can only succeed by first failing. So Mike Brown meets lefty qualifications. Now we learned that FEMA and the Red Cross had supplies ready to go at the Superdome but we blocked by de guvnur. So the guvnur needs a promotion too. What say you rujax? Failure is good?

    Death by guvnur. New NO bumper sticker

  51. 71

    For the Clueless spews:

    drooling Pud:

    Chimpinator and Brownie did almost nothing for 27 hours after Katrina turned Category 5.

    See the timeline.

    Apparently FEMA and Homeland Security offices are closed on Sunday. Better hope OBL (where is he?) doesn’t catch on.

  52. 72

    JDB spews:

    Wrongboy, as will be seen when my current post comes out of embargo, you are, as usual, just wrong.

    Who is supposed to coordinate between agencies in emergencies? Who should have cleared up the problem with the Red Cross? DHS and FEMA. After all the administration’s own homeland security response plan, directed the federal government to act on its own authority to quickly provide assistance and conduct emergency operations following a major catastrophe, pre-empting state and local authorities if necessary.

    We expect the locals to get overwhelmed in catastrophies, that is what makes them catastrophic. Supposedly, that is why we have a DHS and FEMA, although, under this administration, it is looking more and more like we have them simply for political patronage.

  53. 74

    Puddybud spews:

    What problem are you dribbling about JDB? The guvnur used her LA-NG to block supplies. Bush tried to federalize them, she said no! Are you using more lefty web sites. I use the other side to DEBUNK your LIES!

  54. 75

    JDB spews:

    Wrongboy @ 72

    More proof that you are wrong:

    “Moreover, Blanco requested federal aid three days before Katrina made landfall in Louisiana. The New Orleans Times-Picayune reprinted Blanco’s August 27 request to Bush to declare a state of emergency in Louisiana and to provide “supplementary Federal assistance.” Further, the White House had already authorized the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) to assist with the hurricane emergency. According to an August 26 White House statement, FEMA was authorized “to identify, mobilize, and provide at its discretion, equipment and resources necessary to alleviate the impacts of the emergency.”

    http://mediamatters.org/items/200509070003

  55. 76

    Aaron spews:

    PacMan @ 25:

    The point is, it doesn’t really matter if I’m black, you’re black, or the people on the TV screen in NOLA are black. The point is that the people most in need of help are not the “haves” or the “have mores”, AKA by Bush himself as “my people”. He could give a rats ass about the poor in our communities, he was taught that they are better off when they get flooded out of their meager homes and are left sitting on a cot in the Astrodome waiting for handouts.

    Better leadership not founded in an ideology that regards federal governance as a bad idea in general could have made a difference before the disaster struck. But he’d rather patronize his base by giving vital jobs to cronies.

    NOLA is part of our national economy. Federal tax dollars are collected from oil companies. Oil companies win concessions that have impact on the community, such as the dredging and draining of wetland buffers between the ocean and the city. Federal tax revenues are misdirected towards oil company driven agendas, such as the cockamamie idea of trying to establish a bastion of US derived democracy in an oil producing region halfway around the world, when they should be spent on better highways and levees, amongst other things. Bush is interested in serving power, not burgeoning lower classes.

  56. 77

    Jon spews:

    For the Clueless @ 69: “Chimpinator and Brownie did almost nothing for 27 hours after Katrina turned Category 5.”

    From the timeline you linked:

    “8 AM: Katrina is declared a Category 5 storm, the highest possible rating.

    10 AM: New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin orders mandatory evacuations of the city.

    Later that morning, President Bush declares a state of emergency from both Mississippi and Alabama, and declared Florida a federal disaster area in light of damage done by Hurricane Katrina.”

    If you want to argue it wasn’t enough, go right ahead, but you can’t say he did nothing.

  57. 78

    Puddybud spews:

    Do nothing after it turned Cat 5? So if you are the FEMA chief you put assets in the path of a hurricane? Even the Red Cross said that is not how you prepare. But id you are clueless, jdb, or rujax, why place them over there boy! Why did the military move their F-15, F-16 and F-18 jets from Homestead AFB in Florida when Andrew came through in 1992?

    Wow, thanks for the lefty brain insights!!!

  58. 79

    Puddybud spews:

    JDB: I love the fact you repost stuff I already posted last week. Keep it coming. It shows the righty mind is more nimble than the liberal mind!!! What are you trying to say? The guvnur blocked the relief efforts by her decisions? If so I agree with you!!! Your post has not changed the debate!!!

  59. 80

    Michael spews:

    FEMA was authorized “to identify, mobilize, and provide at its discretion, equipment and resources necessary to alleviate the impacts of the emergency.”

    What it doesn’t say, which is what you want to imply, is that FEMA was authorized “to sieze resources, including transportation, and use them to evacuate, against the governor’s will, and to force in aid to people at the Superdome and Convention Center, again against the governor’s will.” By declaring a state of emergency, the governor did not sign over the keys to the city and state to FEMA and Bush. Any plans still had to go through her, and had to be approved by her. In fact she still to this day will not approve the mandatory evacuation of New Orleans, which should have been done close to two weeks ago.

  60. 81

    For the Clueless spews:

    apologist @ 74

    Great! Bush signs off on the obvious at the request of the locals in MS and AL. What did Brownie do?

    Nothing until Monday at 11:00 am.

  61. 82

    Puddybud spews:

    Michael@77: Stop telling clueless, rujax, and jdb the truth. (No keep it coming!) The light of truth blows apart their argument.

    Mayur Nagin responds to school bus charge, he wanted Greyhound Buses. Source: WWL-TV

    Here is a thought! What did the democrats use to get all those po black peoples to the polls in NO during the Nov 2004 election? Why didn’t the mayur use those vehicles? Think about that one!!!

  62. 84

    For the Clueless spews:

    drooling Pud:

    So if you are the FEMA chief you put assets in the path of a hurricane?

    Like those mythical school buses you keep going on about?

  63. 86

    For the Clueless spews:

    Got a great new name for Puddy!

    Puddy “school buses in a hurricane” FREEP!!

    Keep on freepin’ on!!!

  64. 87

    Puddybud spews:

    Mythical school buses clueless? Where have you been? You trying to say you haven’t been to this site as you claim to be an Internet sleuth? junkyardblog.net/archives/week_2005_08_28.html

    Look at the pictures and count dem buses! First picture city buses. Next few pictures school buses. Another tin-hot foil crowd kook you are clueless!!!

    Please keep jumping all over the map. I’ll provide nagivational assistance!

  65. 88

    JDB spews:

    Wrongboy @ 79:

    You shouldn’t listen to Rush, it just guarentees you will be wrong.

    Nagin said that after the Huricane and flooding. What he said is that the govenement should get all the busses they could to get the people out of the done and convention center.

    Note, the busses are a false issue. You can hardly expect a bunch of $10.00 an hour bus drivers, who are probably busy trying to get their families to safety to show up and bus out everyone else. Nagin expected the Feds to come in and help with the problems with the dome. When they didn’t show up, he said that someone should get Greyhounds etc. to get the people out. Once again, FEMA and Homeland Secuirty let everyone down.

    And I have no idea what you are talking about. If you admit that FEMA was told to take all steps to minimize the impacts two days before, and still didn’t do anything, why are you ranting away about the locals? Are you seeing that your agile mind doesn’t realize that you have admitted that this is big Bush mistake? Bush ran for election promising to prevent tragedies, instead he has simply been tragic. Go back to your Freeper buddies if you want to ignore the facts, but here, you can’t spin yourself away from what you have already admitted, Bush directed FEMA to act long before the hurricane hit, and we now know clearly that FEMA did nothing until after it hit, and even then, apparenlty they didn’t have the ability to turn on a TV and find our where they were needed.

  66. 89

    For the Clueless spews:

    Puddy in his dreams drives one of those “ASSETS” that are in the path of a hurricane.

    His only passengers are Brownie and the Chimpinator.

  67. 90

    righton spews:

    jdb; nice job blaming irresponsiblity on small paychecks…

    I think the Mayor and Governor knew years in advance that their cops and bus drivers earned low wages. So maybe its their fault they didn’t build a plan that said, “how in the heck do we move people when those same people might go awol”

    failure at the local level.

  68. 91

    For the Clueless spews:

    Hey Wingnuts,

    You’ve all been touting the Washington Post lately especially when the stories are sourced by “Senior Administration Officials” sources, i.e. Rove’s Raiders.

    Here’s a good one. The first page is especially good.

  69. 92

    Jon spews:

    For the Clueless @ 87: I linked that article on Sunday, but it’s worth reading any day. So when the article on page 4 says

    “Other federal and state officials pointed to Louisiana’s failure to measure up to national disaster response standards, noting that the federal plan advises state and local emergency managers not to expect federal aid for 72 to 96 hours, and base their own preparedness efforts on the need to be self-sufficient for at least that period.”

    Is that another “Senior Administration Official”, including the state officials?

  70. 93

    Puddybud spews:

    JDB: Deflect and obscure where you can. Again you need a DAILY education because you LITTLE brain FORGETS very quickly. I realize I am working against unarmed men and some women posers, but come on HA lefties try a little harder. Just a few righties fighting against the whole HA lefty corps. So you be talking the infamous Ray Nagin Memorial Motor Pool.

    NO Emergency Plan: http://www.cityofno.com/portal.....8;tabid=26

    D. Regional Transit Authority

    * Supply transportation as needed in accordance with the current Standard Operating Procedures.

    * Place special vehicles on alert to be utilized if needed.

    * Position supervisors and dispatch evacuation buses.

    But Wait! On September 2nd, 2005, an angry Terry Ebbert, head of New Orleans’ emergency operations, watched the slow exodus from the Superdome on Thursday morning and said the Federal Emergency Management Agency response was inadequate. The chaos at the nearby New Orleans Convention Center was considerably worse than the Superdome, with an angry mob growing increasingly violent and few options for refugees to leave the scene.
    “This is a national disgrace. FEMA has been here three days, yet there is no command and control,” Ebbert said. “We can send massive amounts of aid to tsunami victims, but we can’t bail out the city of New Orleans.”

    September 2nd, day 3; September 1st day 2; August 31st day 1 – WOW FEMA WAS THERE WEDNESDAY AUGUST 31st. Two days after the levees failed. Now the truth is coming out even more!!!!!!!

    Keep digging deeper lefties!!!

  71. 94

    Puddybud spews:

    In the paraphrased words of DeForest Kelley – “Doc” on Star Trek – “Dammit Jim, I’m an Internet Researcher not a HA lefty baby sitter!”

  72. 95

    Puddybud spews:

    So who is Terry Ebbert?

    “Terry Ebbert, 60, has been directing the city’s new Office of Homeland Security and Public Safety since his appointment by Mayor Ray Nagin on Feb. 11. A highly decorated war hero and the former executive director of the nonprofit New Orleans Police Foundation, Ebbert has been given major powers and responsibilities as an executive assistant to the mayor. His duties are commensurate with his $114,676 annual salary.

    Ebbert is charged with coordinating the city’s terrorism response capabilities and obtaining federal and state funds for homeland security. He also will oversee the police and fire departments, the Office of Emergency Preparedness and city Emergency Medical Services, and the 911 Center or Orleans Parish Communications District.

    His duties extend beyond a crisis or special events such as Mardi Gras. (That’s heartening. Gets paid a load to do more than just Beads for flashing your tits time!) Ebbert has responsibility for the daily operations and planning of all those departments as well as the management of their budgets, Nagin told Gambit Weekly last week, after presenting his plan to re-organize city government to the City Council. “Mr. Ebbert is responsible for all matters related to public safety,” the mayor said.”

    Who is Mary Landrieu: She only won by Orleans parish a razor thin margin.

  73. 96

    righton spews:

    PUddy; to use left wing logic; he isn’t getting paid enough to do quality work.

    Along with the bus drivers and the cops, he was awol.

  74. 97

    For the Clueless spews:

    DribblePud:

    What you gibberishin’ about Mr. “assets in the path of a hurricane”? Is that some Mr. Bob Encyte talk?

  75. 98

    JDB spews:

    Wrongboy:

    Good to see that you admit that even when FEMA got there (only five days after being activated), they still could not get things to work for another three days. What is the sole function of FEMA? To coordinate between agencies in an emergency.

    Wrongboy, the first rule of holes is to stop digging when you are in one. If this is the best you can do, you really should stop.

    It should be noted that Nagin did use busses to help evacuate people to the refuge of last resort, the Dome. That FEMA could not get in to help these people until eight days after they were actuvated, well, you would have to love your pud to be happy with that.

  76. 99

    For the Clueless spews:

    96 – Right wing logic is that you can make “assets in the path of a hurricane” appear out of thin air – with a tax cut.

  77. 100

    JDB spews:

    Question of the Day:

    Will Bush award Hurricane Katrina the Medal of Freedom for doing such a good job? Heck, it at least took his failures in Iraq off the front page.

  78. 101

    Puddybud spews:

    JDB: You are now calendar deficient? You have a new calendar? Most of us converted to the Julian calendar system long ago. Anyway what day is Sunday before the hurricane? August 28th. THe 17th St level broke August 29th. FEMA on August 31st per Terry Ebbert. Where was FEMA to go? You had to wait until you knew where it hit. Man you are a real dumbass.

    I should stop? What, piling on the truth? I have given you link after link of useful information. You only deliver innuendo!

    FEMA 8 days? What are you talking about? The RED Cross could not get in the Superdome because the guvnur blocked them from entering. When did this happen? Immediately. I proved that from sources such as the Red Cross web site. But JDB, clueless and others, you can’t read because it is prefixed with Daily Kos or other a s s w i p e web sites. FEMA was working for the evac, somewhat chaotically Sept 2nd & the NO Emergency Preparedness person said that. Proved that to you also.

    Nagin left over 300 buses out of his evac plan. Why did he do that? Your lefty mayur and guvnur are racist villians but you can’t agree to that!!!

    BTW whose electricity you lefty bloggers wasting? Is this a productive use of working time? I work from home.

  79. 102

    For the Clueless spews:

    Nagin left over 300 buses out of his evac plan. Why did he do that?

    Maybe they were “assets in the path of a hurricane”?

    Pop another Encyte Pud.

  80. 103

    For the Clueless spews:

    On a somewhat different note:

    Five New Indictments in DeLay Investigation

    If New Orleans levees had been necessary to DeLay’s power grab they would have been the strongest in the world. The sad truth is that corruption at the heart of Bush/DeLay Republicans has rendered them incapable of using the power they seek for anything but its own reinforcement.

  81. 104

    Puddybud spews:

    WTF: Clueless. You are truly losing it. Now you load up another lefty web site. Use the MSM, at least you would have a little credibility!! Wife said I DON’T NEED Encyte. It’s for limp lefties!!!!

    Do you agree that NO shootings started August 29th before the hurricane? Check the MSM. Look for a Juan Lopez.

    Clueless: It’s your lefty police officers looting the next day in WalMart.

  82. 106

    JC Bob spews:

    Get a grip, Goldy. Your hatred of President Bush is driving you insane.

    On the other hand, can you tell my why the 500 semi-submerged buses in New Orleans were NOT used to evacuate the poor, elderly and infirm BEFORE the hurricane hit? Were Blanco and Nagin waiting for President Bush to tell them to evacuate New Orleans? You know, he did.

  83. 107

    windie spews:

    its funny, as far as I can tell, this whole bus thing came from a single photo.

    Its fun that they’re grabbing on such wierd 20/20 hindsight ‘maybe’s to tar people.

    @105

    hating what Bush has done to this country is so much more sane than the cult-member loyalty you folks give him.

  84. 108

    Puddybud spews:

    Listen to KVI – 570 AM Sean Hannity does expose at 2:00 PM Hr (2:06 after commercials) on how the LA-NG blocked the Red Cross from the SuperDome.

  85. 109

    Puddybud spews:

    Windie, a single photo? Man U R delusional. You didn’t navigate to the junkyarddog did you. There are more than one picture here.

    Windie, oh windie: junkyardblog.net/archives/week_2005_08_28.html

  86. 110

    Dr. E spews:

    lib @ 33

    Your post, though well articulated, assumes a bottom-to-top analysis of the “chain of responsibility”. Though I don’t think that’s entirely wrong, I do think that many on the right (who seem to be apologists for what looks like a gross failure on the federal level) seem to be ignoring that this is a disaster that has directly affected several states, and will have economic implications on the national level. As such, this is a national disaster.

    Most of what I’m reading here focuses on incompetence, both perceived and actual, at the state and local level in Louisiana, targeting New Orleans specifically, since that was the population center worst affected. This is incompetence is then used as a rationale for directing responsibility away from the President and federal government. On a fairly simple level, the argument sounds like this: the NO mayor and LA governor failed to adequately respond, and therefore the President, Chertoff, Brown, et al. at the federal level, are somehow not culpable.

    Questions as to whether even the best equipped city and state infrastructures could equip with a disaster of this magnitude aside, this argument, for me, fails for one main reason: the existence of the Department of Homeland Security. Post 9/11, we were told that our national defenses against catastrophes (both man-made and natural) were inadequate, and that we would do better as a nation to create a new (yes, bureaucratic) structure to respond to such situations. (FEMA was, of course, subsumed into the DHS.) As I wrote yesterday, the DHS does have a proactive plan for dealing with catastrophic situations—this is a matter of policy stated within its National Response Plan, published in December 2004. The import of this policy (“Proactive Federal Response to Catastrophic Events”) is essentially that the federal government can trump all state and local authority in responding to catastrophic events. According to the NRP:

    “The primary mission [of the Proactive Federal Response to Catastrophic Events] is to save lives; protect critical infrastructure, property, and the environment, contain the event; and preserve national security.”

    Although it does state that local authorities should ask the DHS for help, it does additionally state that:

    “Standard procedures regarding requests for assistance may be expedited or, under extreme circumstances, suspended in the immediate aftermath of an event of catastrophic magnitude.” (emphasis mine)

    Sounds an awful lot to me like the federal government is culpable here, regardless of how local authorities acted.

    You don’t have to take my word for it. You can read the doc. (see pp. 43-44) at:
    http://www.dhs.gov/interweb/as.....seplan.pdf

  87. 111

    JDB spews:

    All right JC Bob, how were you going to round up the 100,000 or so poor, sick and disable in 48 hours, and where were you going to bus them. Even the highest possible number says the busses could only haul about 50,000 running non stop for 48 hours, and I would think you would be in reality lucky to get 20,000 moved even with perfect conditions. And where are you going to put them? And who was going to drive them?

    Wrongboy:

    Again, you miss the point, by your own posts, FEMA was activated on Aug 27, and on Sept. 2, they still had not done anything. Heck, they had food forward positioned on Aug 28, but they did not do anything for another seven days. I know you are beyond reality, but are you really beyond simple math? (By the way, even if I was on the Julian Calendar, it would change the calculation of days, which again, just shows you are WRONG!).

    You keep saying the Red Cross was stopped by the Govenor…, Who is supposed to prevent these problems? FEMA. And who stopped FEMA from bringing in their supplies? FEMA. Who was supposed to be proactive in times of catastrophies? FEMA.

    If you want to move to LA and vote against Blanco, be my guess. But FEMA concerns us all. Your inability to admit to the exteme incompetence shown by Bush and his political lackeys is amazing. I will quickly admit that Blanco could have done better. Is it beyond your ability to admit that Bush could have done better? That is the difference between you and I. You are caught up in an idelogical furor where you have to defend the indefensible. I just have to point to the truth and your pittiful attempts to avoid the truth.

    Another case of the Bush administration being totally incompetent:

    AP: 9/11 recovery loans loosely managed

    “And while some at New York’s Ground Zero couldn’t get assistance they desperately sought, companies far removed from the devastation – a South Dakota country radio station, a Virgin Islands perfume shop, a Utah dog boutique and more than 100 Dunkin’ Donuts and Subway sandwich shops – had no problem “winning the government-guaranteed loans.”

    http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/.....ax%20Loans

    Of course, to a feeper like you, this is all Clinton’s fault.

  88. 112

    Michael spews:

    “Standard procedures regarding requests for assistance may be expedited or, under extreme circumstances, suspended in the immediate aftermath of an event of catastrophic magnitude.”

    Read that one more time. Now what that says is that Bush/FEMA can send aid without waiting for a request from local/state authorities. What that does not say is that Bush/FEMA can force aid in when state and local authorities have specifically asked that it not be sent there, and the Red Cross supplies have specifically been turned away at gunpoint by the Louisiana National Guard under the orders of the governor.

  89. 115

    Puddybud spews:

    So your hated Fox News Reporter Major Garrett is going to document from before the Levee broke the LA-NG and LA Office of Homeland Security blocked the Red Cross from helping the people on the road bridge in the sun. But that would mean you guys would have to admit Fox News is a news channel.

  90. 116

    windie spews:

    oh, and I’m not ‘more fun to debate’, I’m ‘easier to debate’, because I dont’ have the opportunity to do the heavy lifting research…

    I am self-aware, at least :p

  91. 117

    Puddybud spews:

    Good windie :) it good for you to admit it ;) Now are you listening to Sean Hannity blowing open the fact the LA-NG blocked the FEMA/Red Cross?

  92. 118

    JDB spews:

    Wrongboy:

    You admit that the Onion is a newspaper, and I’ll admit that Fox News is a news channel.

    And, again, you miss the point, who’s job is it to coordinate and take care of mistakes like the Red Cross problem (and I note how you are trying to make the Red Cross and FEMA one in the same), it’s FEMA. That is why it exist! Or, at least until Bush decided it was a good place to put his political cronies, that is why it existed.

  93. 119

    Dr. E spews:

    Michael @ 112

    “What that does not say is that Bush/FEMA can force aid in when state and local authorities have specifically asked that it not be sent there

    You’re right, it does not explicitly say in that passage quoted. This document is the base plan—weighing in at over 100 pages—which (again to quote the doc.) “serves as the foundation for the development of detailed supplemental plans and procedures to effectively and efficiently implement Federal incident management activities and assistance in the context of specific types of incidents.” It does, however, lay out the federal role, e.g. for the Secretary of HS:

    “In this role, the Secretary is also responsible for
    coordinating Federal resources utilized in response to or
    recovery from terrorist attacks, major disasters, or other
    emergencies if and when any of the following four
    conditions applies:
    (1) a Federal department or agency acting under its
    own authority has requested DHS assistance;
    (2) the resources of State and local authorities are overwhelmed
    and Federal assistance has been requested;
    (3) more than one Federal department or agency has
    become substantially involved in responding to the
    incident; or
    (4) the Secretary has been directed to assume incident
    management responsibilities by the President.”
    (emphasis mine)

  94. 120

    righton spews:

    Wow, windie other libs saying that Fema can overide the Governor/mayor who blocks the Red Cross.

    Cool, Feds can overrule the locals?

  95. 122

    righton spews:

    Thanks, dr. e

    Wow, you guys first blame Fema for not acting, then when governor blocks private group from acting, also try to blame fema for not overriding.

    I hear its raining hard in St. Augustine. Is that Fema’s fault too? Is the junked car down my street their fault?

  96. 124

    windie spews:

    I only speak for me, thanks.

    The point of me saying that crap is: Even your compliments are horrible slurs :p

  97. 126

    HowCanYouBePROUDtobeAnASS spews:

    Oops… so much for the anti-FEMA petition…TSK, TSK, TSK trying to raise money off the backs of victims… and note the byline: ASSOCIATED PRESS – so no whining about the “source” Nurburgers.

  98. 127

    Dr. E spews:

    122

    Most of your post is irrelevant, but I’ll address the part about FEMA: I think I’ve been pretty consistent in stating that I’m talking about DHS, rather than just FEMA.

  99. 128

    Dr. E spews:

    126

    So, having read the link, it’s either one of two things: 1) intentional, or 2) a mistake.

  100. 129

    S. Hummer spews:

    I have been on AAJ.com – a jazz site (All About Jazz) – and there is a political thread there where I’v have been talking about wanting to see the Bush/Cheney Administration walk right out the White House doors. I want them to resign. These are the ones who should be displaced. The Bush/Cheney administration is just ruining our country. Just look at the death and suffering that is on their hands. Katrina was a brute but their beforehand and post handling of Katrina is criminal. Have we ever witnessed such ineptitude? Perhaps in how they’ve handled the situation in Iraq, the torture, the lack of suppies for our troops, and now this thing with the hurricane. It is so bad it is as if they planned it. The black community is thinking that perhaps they did. One does have to wonder. Look, it’s a subsidary of Halliburto who has the multimillion dollar contract to “repair DAMAGE from Natural disasters”, they have “no contract to fix the levees and flood canals unless a disaster caused damage.” Last night a former senator from Lousiania on Charlie Rose said it would have taken $50 billion to improve the levee’s and flood canals, which would have prevented this horrid tragedy. We are spending $1 billion dollars a day in Iraq. Now instead of having to spend $50 billion, we will be paying out at least $200 billion. Halliburton has seen their worth go up with this deal. A no bid we hear.

    So don’t you see? They all should be packing their bags. They will still have it better off than the poor people in shelters all across the South. Sorry Barbara Bush, those poor souls aren’t better off than before the storm regardless of how poverty stricken they are; no matter how much you might believe it. We live in a different world, so how can you be expected to realize all that has happened? Well look around and learn a bit more. It isn’t an impossible task for you. It just takes living a more down to earth lifestyle. I remember seeing pictures of your home dinners in Kennibunkport: A white coated butler was standing in wait after having served and attended to your needs. There is no way you can begin to know how it is for the people in Louisiana and Mississippi. So how is it that we expect more from you? Expect a bit more compassion? Well we do. We are terribly dissappointed in you and feel that as far as GW goes, he needs to pack his bags. We are so weary, and tired of the ways he’s been hurting us with his policies and programs.

    I Wish we had a massive march organized to go to all the county courthouses, state capitols, and on the Washington DC mall. Maybe then they would get the drift. We want them gone.

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    Jon spews:

    S. Hummer: “I Wish we had a massive march organized to go to all the county courthouses, state capitols, and on the Washington DC mall. Maybe then they would get the drift. We want them gone.”

    And replaced with whom? Dennis Hastert? Condi Rice?

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    S. Hummer spews:

    The Administration in total and all it’s guppie smart tagalongs.

    Without Bush, Condi would be gone, and left to run for President, Dennis Hastert, lap dog that he’s become – will cry in his beer, or sit and contemplate his navel, and Bill Frist and John McCain can duke it out for the presidency, while trying to distance Condi and her policies from their own. All of this has already started don’t you think? During the next election remember there’s always the Supreme Court to give us another set of ne’er-do-wells.

    Now, moving right along…..

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    Puddybud spews:

    S Hummer: Interesting Rant. You must be new here. I can tell you haven’t read the threads thoroughly or you perform lefty selective reading methods.

    In 1996 your friends the Sierra Club sued to stop the improvement to the levees to protect the precious wildlife in the swamps and low lying areas. The ACoe wanted to raise the levee walls. It was settled in 1997 and things haven’t been the same since. Did you find the link yet?

    Bush sent more $$$$ to the levees so far than Clinton did his whole two terms. Did you find the link yet?

    Mary Landrieu messed with a dredging study that the ACoE said was foolhardy and she put in amendment legislation to fiddle with the results. Did you find the link yet?

    The Feds had to deal with MS, AL, FL and LA in Katrina’s aftermath. Did you find the links yet?

    As an American I take umbrage to you lefties who try and act wholier than thou with minorities but you don’t work to take them out of their poverty when you all controlled LA and NO politics from Huey Long in 1930s. Did you find all those links yet?

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    spews:

    Curiosity sneaks up on me….

    You like petitions? Yet you dont like intiatives which start with petitions.

    If the will of the people, the peoples opinion is important, well….nevermind, just idle speculation.

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    spews:

    Please appoint James Lee Witt to head FEMA. With cabinet post. Proven ability. Would serve as better feeling toward this administration, show true efforts to lift a failing presidency.