Open Thread Roundup

Here are some news updates and other links:

– Prosecutors in Kitsap County have dropped charges against Glenn Musgrove, the 56-year-old quadriplegic and medical marijuana patient who the WestNET drug task force initially claimed was selling marijuana for profit. Musgrove won a large settlement for a medical malpractice suit and his attorney believes that Kitsap County went after him in order to get their hands on some of that money. His two caregivers were also facing prosecution, but those charges have also been dropped. It appears that the acquittal of Bruce Olson and the increased media attention on Kitsap Prosecutor Russ Hauge’s behavior is finally starting to yield some positive outcomes. Unfortunately, situations like this are not isolated to Kitsap County. The Cannabis Defense Coalition is also looking into cases in Mason and Pierce Counties as well.

– Glenn Greenwald’s report for the Cato Institute on drug decriminalization in Portugal can be read here. He adds in this post at his regular Salon blog that we’re at the point now that even longtime skeptics of decriminalization are being forced to admit that it works to decrease both drug abuse and its collateral effects. Although there are still some entertainingly obstinate holdouts.

– Washington State’s Senate Democrats have created an online forum similar to the one that the Obama Administration set up for their virtual town hall. I’ve posted a question about regulating and taxing marijuana.

– I’m a bit more pessimistic than Pete Guither here that Attorney General Holder really is on the verge of a spectacularly boneheaded attempt to arrest even more people for simple marijuana possession. At all levels of government, we already arrest around 3/4 of a million people every year for marijuana possession. If Holder actually thinks that increasing those arrest totals will lower the amount of money being made by Mexican cartels, he needs to sit down and read Greenwald’s report on Portugal.

– Finally, the Injustice in Seattle blog is a good local blog that’s flown under my radar for a little while now. I need to get them in my regular reading rotation. I’m not on the Twitter bandwagon yet, but if you are, they have a feed.


  1. 1

    Mr. Cynical spews:

    We desperately need more marijuana cheap and easily accessible.
    That will solve all our Nation’s and Word problems.

  2. 2

    Rick D. spews:

    Wow, what daring blog threads from Lee these days.

    If it isn’t a “Pot is harmless and should be legalized” thread, it’s a “Birdseye view” irrelevent trivia thread.

    One need only look at the shuffling, incoherent clown (the artist formerly known as) Joaquin Phoenix to see the after effects of a drug-addled brain compliments of excessive daily use of Lee’s favorite herb.

  3. 3

    proud leftist spews:

    Actually, your post and the one above yours reveal evidence aplenty of addledness. If not drugs, what is your excuse? Bad genes, poor education, parents that didn’t care, brain injury? It must be one of those.

  4. 4

    Puddybud, Hey it's the new year... spews:

    I wonder if preznit Obama is gonna ban peeps driving on a suspended license, now that the California Angels pitcher was killed by a drunk driver last night driving on a suspended license.

    Hey Richard Pope we should see whom Andrew Gallo voted for.

  5. 5

    This is your brain. This is your brain on Lee. Any questions? spews:

    Dope fiend Lee just can’t kick it. Send him to detox for zen & the art of methadone maintenance.
    Last year we lit up our True Value lanterns at high noon and went looking for an honest Democrat. Found one. Tim Russert. Then he died.

    Checked out Bernie Goldberg’s 2002/2003 interview with Russert in Goldberg’s book Arrogance. Russert was the antithesis of arrogance, meaning he was the antithesis of Big Media, BM. Meaning he was the antithesis of progessive liberal fascism.

    Miss Tim. We need him, more than ever, to fumigate the smelly orthodoxies of the Left, but he left. Miss him.

  6. 6

    Winkydink, hey, it's April spews:

    re 1: “That will solve all our Nation’s and Word problems.”

    Who ever said that having lots of cheap boo would solve all our problems? As for the ‘Word’ problems, I have no idea what you mean. Do you think marihuana makes it difficult for students to solve word problems?

    If Cheech has two elbows of Lumbo to sell and pinches a 1/8 teaspoon from each baggie, how much free pot will Cheech have after he has sold all the pot.

    These are the kinds of math problems pot sellers solve on a daily basi.

    See if you can!!

  7. 7

    ya dopes spews:

    Regarding the Malthusian trap, (Gregory) Clark argues that the well-being of the average person around 1800 was no better than the average hunter-gatherer 10,000 years earlier. According to Malthus’ “Essay on the Principle of Population,” with every technological advance that increases the efficiency of production, there is a corresponding increase in population, thus neutralizing any gains made in production. In short, there are just more mouths to feed. The principle being that the population only grows as fast as the food supply.

    That was the case until the Industrial Revolution. After 1800, something happened in England that caused production to outpace population growth. It was the first time in history that a society actually escaped from the Malthusian trap. For the first time incomes and consumption per capita began to rise.

    That’s from an Amazon review of Clark’s book, a Farewell to Alms. Robert Solow, in New York Review, reproduces Clark’s J-curve of per capita real income in England (flat-line flat from 1200 – 1800) that bends straight up with the capitalist/industrial/internal combustion revolution.

    When you liberal tax avoiders and evaders attempt again to tax capitalism to death, to atone for capitalism’s real or perceived sins, think about living on a flat line of sub-subsistence instead of a rising curve.

    Remember what created the income you want to tax away: Labor we always had with us, back in those centuries and millennia when most of the world most of the time mostly starved. Concentrated capital remade labor’s world, and made it prosper.

    Remember that your social affectations and green affectations are luxury goods that grubby capitalism made possible. Capitalism made it possible for you to have the resources and the leisure to prissily preen about saving the world from capitalism.

  8. 8

    proud leftist spews:

    Post 4 above is about as fine an example of the perversely partisan manner in which Puddy’s mind works. He looks for a partisan angle to a tragedy, the death of a young man, a young man who had a wonderful future in front of him. That is simply sick, and there’s no way to spin the obsessiveness of his partisanship. You need help, Puddy. Your post is truly alarming.

  9. 9

    Steve spews:

    @8 No kidding. Puddy’s off the deep end with a post like that. I may disagree with the poster @7, but at least he’s intelligent. I can respect that. I disagree with Right Stuff on most things, but I respect him as much as I respect those with whom I tend to agree. Puddy, by comparison, has become mentally deranged. With Puddy it’s not so much anymore that I disagree with him. It’s that I must witness his mental breakdown progress with each passing day.

  10. 10

    Winkydink, hey, it's April spews:

    re7: Any astute small businessman understands that the fetters placed on his/her enteprise come not from ‘Liberals’, per se, but from politicians of both parties (but let’s be honest, mostly Republicans)who write laws and regulatios at the behest of big business to limit the rise of small business.

    I could give you many examples, from the limiting of the use of independent contractors (except for the insurance indutry. Who woulda guessed?)to the ‘no-call’ laws against telemarketers. There are ways around all of these regulations — but the way around it always favors the big guy.

    Unfettered ‘Capitalism’, as most people understand, leads to monopoly — which is not free-market capitalism. The trouble that world-striding monopolies face is that they have overproduced through cheap labor and now no one has the money to buy their crappy products.

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    Winkydink, hey, it's April spews:

    re 9: Not to mention the obvious fact that driving on a suspended license is already banned. No additional decrees from the white house needed.

  12. 12

    Broadway Joe spews:

    “When you liberal tax avoiders and evaders attempt again to tax capitalism to death, to atone for capitalism’s real or perceived sins, think about living on a flat line of sub-subsistence instead of a rising curve.”

    Excuse me?

    ‘Liberal tax avoiders and evaders’?

    Who’s avoiding what? Your head is so far up your ass you can practicaly see daylight again. Why haven’t you gone Galt yet and left us alone so we can fix the disaster you left?

    Why does today’s GOP remind me of my five-year-old grandson when he’s having a temper tantrum? Oh yeah, that’s right. He needs a spanking and to be sent to his room, too.

  13. 13

    Politically Incorrect spews:

    Lee and I are on the same sheet of music on the marijuana issue. It’s a personal right to have and enjoy this substance. It’s also your personal right to not have or enjoy it.

    What can’t you understand about personal choice and personal responsibility?

  14. 14

    Taxes are for the little people spews:

    TurboTax Tim Geithner
    Tom Daschle
    Charlie Rangel
    KKK-Kathleen Sebelius
    That other Obama twit whose name I’ve forgotten
    Every damn left-wing pol who tilts the tax code to tilt in their favor and to the advantage of their liberal fatcat donors

    Rhetorical question: What is George Soros’ fair share? And why does he hire the best tax avoidance money can buy to avoid paying it?

  15. 15

    proud leftist spews:

    Obama’s vetting process for his appointees was far more rigorous than that of any previous president. That is the only reason the tax issues came up. In the Bush Administration, a little unpaid tax problem would have been considered a badge of honor and the problem would never have become public.

  16. 16

    YLB spews:

    14 – What is Sam Wyly’s fair share?

    Last I looked the G20 were going to do something about tax havens. We’ll see what happens, but that’s the first time I’ve seen something like this mentioned at that level.

  17. 18

    Dave spews:

    When will HA find its voice on Obama’s war plans?

    Woolsey splits with Obama on war bill

    “Rep. Lynn Woolsey (D-CA), Co-Chair of the Congressional Progressive Caucus, is the first — but likely not the last — liberal Dem to blast the Obama administration’s $83.4 billion war spending plan.”

  18. 19

    Puddybud, Hey it's the new year... spews:

    BULLSHITTIUM ALERT Star Trek Klaxon Horn Sounds:

    proud leftist whopper:

    Obama’s vetting process for his appointees was far more rigorous than that of any previous president. That is the only reason the tax issues came up. In the Bush Administration, a little unpaid tax problem would have been considered a badge of honor and the problem would never have become public.

    Of course this loony leftist weasel moron has no proof or the link would have been shown. Even Daily Kos asked WTF was Obama’s team doing. Puddy supplied the link. Loony’s head was up someone’s ASS that day. Or maybe he was pleading for a fellow leftist moron in court.

    End of BULLSHITTIUM ALERT Star Trek Klaxon Horn Sound Ends

    TAFTLP: You forgot Hilda LaRaza Solis, Labor Department head.

  19. 20

    Puddybud, Hey it's the new year... spews:

    Here is more reasons the HA loons are weasels.

    “The Obama administration is again invoking government secrecy in defending the Bush administration’s wiretapping program, this time against a lawsuit by AT&T customers who claim federal agents illegally intercepted their phone calls and gained access to their records.

    Disclosure of information sought by the customers, “which concerns how the United States seeks to detect and prevent terrorist attacks, would cause exceptionally grave harm to national security,” Justice Department lawyers said in papers filed Friday in San Francisco.”

    So Puddy has some questions?

    1) What will the ACLU say about there “messiah” (aaaaaahhhhhh sound) now? Will he be called a fascist like the HA weasel loons called Bush on this? What a bunch of DFs.

    2) Will the leftist MSM decry this?

    3) We on the right remember the leftist HA weasel pinheads complain Bush was destroying the US Constitution. Is this still happening Goldy’s NorthWest Division of Lunatic Leftist Moonbat!s?

    4) Where is Keith ESPN Failure Olbermann and Chris Tingling Leg Matthews?

    5) How can a hard-leftist like Obama keep a “right policy” from Bush?

    6) Where are the bitter angry leftist HA weasel progressives like headless lucy, clueless wonder, NutRight and rhp6033? Haven’t they been paying attention? Oh… it’s not on the kook-aid sites?

    7) Did leftist pinhead CIA head Leon Panetta see what is really going on in the world and realizes the ACLU are a bunch of loons?

    8) What does Jeremiah Wright think now about the US of KKK?

    9) Does Obama really fear a potential attack and wants to make sure Joe Biden is proven a liar?

    10) Puddy saves the best for last. Is this the change promised by Obama?

    Watch the vitrolic ASSwipes appear for their “reality check”.

  20. 21

    GBS spews:

    There you go again Puddy, always looking in the rearview mirror. George Bush isn’t the president any more.

    We’re all about looking to the future. Come on let’s all sing now “Kum-ba-ya My Lord, Kum-ba-ya”

    I don’t hear you Puddy. Here, have a sip of the Cherry flavored Kool-aid. It taste real good. I used sugar. Come on over there’s milk for the cereal, too.

  21. 22

    Puddybud, Hey it's the new year... spews:

    GBS, where did Puddy say Bush is the President. Obama is the preznit now. Go on Puddy knows you have brass marbuls. Tackle those 10 simple questions…


  22. 23


    When will HA find its voice on Obama’s war plans?

    I’ve criticized him on Afghanistan here and here. There’s still a lot of uncertainty about what he plans to do, but a lot of reason to be concerned already.

  23. 24

    YLB spews:

    Fool @ 20


    The left blogosphere was there long before your silly ass showed…

    Go back to your feckless teabag parties…

  24. 25

    Mr. Cynical spews:

    4. Puddybud, Hey it’s the new year… spews:

    I wonder if preznit Obama is gonna ban peeps driving on a suspended license, now that the California Angels pitcher was killed by a drunk driver last night driving on a suspended license.

    Perfectly legitimate comment. I see that proud leftist on steve jumped on this…but our society seems to often confuse VICTIMIZERS with VICTIMS

    Let me help you KLOWNS out…the drunk driver on a suspended license is a VICTIMIZER.
    Why is that so difficult.
    He was probably smoking pot too.
    You never seem them test for that…the breathalyzer only test alcohol.

    Good work Puddy…you just helped these KLOWNS once again expose their off-the-wall philosophy.

  25. 26

    Mr. Cynical spews:

    Great Questions.
    Obama is finding out there are a lot of tough decisions the President has to make…especially in a dangerous world where Radical Islamic Extremists are intent on causing death and destruction.

    It is TOO DAMN FUNNY to listen to the “flower-children” at HorsesAss rebel against the “chosen one”, isn’t it.
    The “Chosen one” appears to know that certain things are absolutely necessary to ensure our protection. The KLOWNS need to smoke more pot and mellow out…I thought you KLOWNS trusted our President? Here you are criticizing him over & over & over again.
    But hey, YOU WON!!

  26. 27

    Mr. Cynical spews:

    Here is why Obama is disappointing his KLOWNdom…political reality. Obama is more intent on surviving than burning up his remaining political capital (which wwill be all gone when Biden’s prognostication of Obama being challenged by terrorists in the 1st 6 months comes true)–

    Friday, April 10, 2009

    The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Friday shows that 34% of the nation’s voters now Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as President. Twenty-nine percent (29%) Strongly Disapprove giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of +5
    Overall, 55% of voters say they at least somewhat approve of the President’s performance so far. Forty-four percent (44%) disapprove.

    Obama’s lost a ton of support. He was at +32 just 2 days after Inauguration and now at +5.
    With all his criticism of Bush, what has he actually done differently?
    Because he now knows of threats in great detail. He knows that if we are attacked on his watch, he is doomed politically.

    You KLOWNS keep smokin’ that pot…and keep beggin’ for more cheap pot so you can fantasize at a much deeper stuper!!

  27. 28

    YLB spews:

    Idiot @ 27

    No one has a problem with Obama keeping Americans safe from the best thing that ever happened to the right wing – Islamist extremism.

    It all in HOW he does it that makes the difference.

    Keep drinkin’ that deep red kool-aid fool. Take a swig at a teabag party near you!

  28. 29

    Mr. Cynical spews:

    Hey, your guy LIAR Biden is the one who prognosticated Obama would be tested in the first 6 months. All I’m saying is Obama sure seems to be doing a whole lot of what Bush did. The only difference is your guy is telling you that it’s the right thing to do.
    Closing Gitmo?? Is it closed yet.

    Obama is long on hyperbole…which you KLOWNS suck down like cheap pot!!

    Hey YLB, you said you WON!
    What have you WON??

    If Obama listened to your KLOWN-ilk and we get hit by terrorists, his popularity would be down to the lunatic 14%ers.

    Obama has projected a very weak image in engaging terrorists & kooks….leaving us more vulnerable. Now he is trying to retract some of his naiviete…but too late. You only get one first impression…and Obama’s was weakness.

  29. 30

    Puddybud, Hey it's the new year... spews:

    Cynical, the HA weasels complain all Puddy does is instigate. When Puddy challenges them they run. Well the clueless wonder goes into apoplexy. When Puddy placed this on HA no one on the right was asking these questions.

  30. 31

    Mr. Cynical spews:

    You are waaaaaaaaay too smart for them…and have that photographic memory that holds them accountable. That’s what really pisses them off.
    Keep up the great work!