Somewhat inexplicable to me, some far left critics of Pete Buttigieg have decided that he was working for the CIA. And while he is not my candidate by a long shot, I kind of have to defend him.
There are 2 parts to this. First he worked for a consulting firm that had an NDA. I don’t know enough about the specific firm, but in general NDA’s are bad, but they’re the company, not the employee, who impose them.
The second thing is that he went to Somalia once: A thing that we only know about because he literally wrote about it in the New York Times. Now, I am also not an expert on CIA procedures but it strikes me that this is probably not how they operate:
1) Send a couple people into a country for one (1) day.
2) Meet with officials publicly.
3) Go to the marketplace.
4) Unspecified crimes.
5) Go check out ancient caves.
6) Write about it in an article that’s very critical of US foreign policy including quoting people calling it corrupt.
7) Run for President the first election it’s Constitutionally possible.
Seems like he would keep a lower profile.
But the serious thing I want to say is this: If you see someone promoting this nonsense uncritically, they are a bad source of information; Not just on this specific thing, but going forward.
Roger Rabbit spews:
“they are a bad source of information”
That’s pretty much everything and everybody with a “GOP” label on it.
Roger Rabbit spews:
GOP = party of traitors
You don’t have to take my word for it; that comes from authoritative sources, including this one:
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/political-commentary/traitors-donald-trump-republican-party-922194/
Roger Rabbit spews:
Now I’m waiting for Dumbfuck to post that Warren was a lousy lawyer because she earned only $2 million of legal fees in 30 years of practice. To Dumbfuck, that was probably a single month’s Medicare billings. But then Warren didn’t have his public trough to feed at.
Thomas Jefferson spews:
The CIA needs to be on a much, much shorter leash. They have proven themselves to be cruel zealots.
Roger Rabbit spews:
@4 Yes, because some of them have been willing to follow orders from Republicans to secretly kidnap and torture people, and not only suspected terrorists, but also innocent people.
Roger Rabbit spews:
Breaking News: Just-released IG report finds that FBI probe of Trump campaign was “justified,” finds “no evidence of political bias” in FBI investigation of Trump campaign, and says FBI “followed all the rules” in getting FISA warrant against Carter Page and pursued the investigation lawfully, but “made some mistakes.”
YLB spews:
Hey howz that derp state klownspiracy horowitz report working out for the dumfuk trolls?
Roger Rabbit spews:
@7 Expect Republicans to gloss over the justification for the investigation and bleat about the FBI’s mistakes.
“Don’t look over here, look over there! They threw the used paper coffee cups into the trash bin instead of the recycle bin!”
What you won’t hear them say is, “No collusion! No conspiracy!”
They’ll continue to peddle their conspiracy theory no matter what the Horowitz report says, but we all knew they would. Meanwhile, Barr issued a statement reinforcing what’s already searingly obvious, i.e. that he’s a partisan hack.
WTF!? spews:
Is Buttigieg gay?
Roger Rabbit spews:
@9 So I’ve heard. So what? If that offends the Bible thumpers, all I can say is, the White House couldn’t get any more Godless than it is now.
YLB spews:
dumfuk bleated already: Durham report. More derp..
Roger Rabbit spews:
@11 I like how the Rolling Stone piece (@2) described it: The GOP has suffered “a complete moral collapse.” I mean, really, those people have lost all sense of right and wrong, have no moorings left, and are now drifting rudderless in a fog, like a ghost ship.
@godwinha spews:
So, no grant of cert? Which of the four liberal SCOTUS justices was your turncoat, HA libbies?
Jeanne Mancini, President of March for Life, told LifeNews.com she was delighted by the news.
“Women facing an unexpected pregnancy deserve to have as much medically and technically accurate information as possible when they are making what could be the most important decision of their life,” she said.
“We are encouraged by today’s Supreme Court decision that lets Kentucky’s pro-life ultrasound law stand,” added SBA List President Marjorie Dannenfelser. “Modern ultrasound technology opens an unprecedented window into the womb, providing undisputable evidence of the humanity of the unborn child. The abortion industry has proven incapable of policing itself and will stop at nothing to keep vulnerable women in the dark for the sake of profit, which is why state laws protecting women’s right to informed consent are so important.
https://www.lifenews.com/2019/12/09/supreme-court-upholds-kentucky-law-letting-women-see-ultrasound-of-their-baby-before-abortion/
I’llHaveAPilsner spews:
Dumbfuck doesn’t want to talk about the report he’s been breathlessly assuring Would have. EVERYTHING.
SHALL WE LOOK?
Based investigation on fabricated dossier – nope not in there
Used Page to spy on Trump – Didn’t happen
Obama/Brennan/Comey ordered fabrications to get Trump – Laughter from all
Oh and looked here, Trump kids socialized with Steele. Weird
Bob Barr – I reject these finding because Russia investigation was intrusive.
I mean we can’t have people under criminal suspicion slightly inconvenienced can we write Mr. AG?
@godwinha spews:
@ 2, 11
Here’s how Rolling Stone described Rick Wilson at the bottom of his other RS opinion piece:
Rick Wilson is a Republican ad-maker and strategist, a founder of the Never Trump movement and the author of Everything Trump Touches Dies.
He’s a Never Trumper.
Problem is, so few people read RS that he’ll never have the audience that Tulsi Gabbard has. If you’re gonna slam your party’s leadership, do it when you’ve got an audience.
Roger Rabbit spews:
@15 “He’s a Never Trumper. ”
Which only enhances his credibility, because there is something terribly wrong with people who aren’t, e.g. you.
“Problem is, so few people read RS”
Even fewer people read your HA comments, and the handful who do laugh at you. Even your horse laughs at you:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U91Zp9wWS30
@godwinha spews:
Chicago’s mayor is pressuring Mayor Pete – if someone with her standing can be said to be applying pressure – to disregard his NDA and say what she wants to be said.
Problem with that is that he’d have to break his written promise to do so.
And if a guy is willing to do that to get the job, what will he be willing to do in order to keep the job?
’cause that seems to be a concern with the current occupant of the White House.
NDAs exist for a reason. Honor should still mean something, even when it’s not convenient.
Elijah Dominic McDotcom spews:
BOB!
TODAY IS HOLY HOLY HOROWITZ DAY!
THE DAY YOU HAVE BEEN WAITING ON FOR MANY, MANY MONTHS! BREATHLESSLY ANTICIPATING ALL THE LOCK HER UPS THAT WOULD FOLLOW.
WHERE ARE THE FROG MARCHES? WHERE OH WHERE ARE THEY???
Now that the cult prophesy has collapsed, will Teh Dumbfuck tunnel out to the shed in the back yard and split for the desert?
Or will he just kill himself by eating rat poison?
bwahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
BENGHAAAAZIIIIIII!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is Every Republican You Know.
Roger Rabbit spews:
@17 “’cause that seems to be a concern with the current occupant of the White House.”
That’s clearly not a concern to you, so I don’t see why you’re worried about what Buttigieg does. Unless, of course, you’re a hypocrite of the Lindsey Graham scale.
@godwinha spews:
@ 18
Bill Barr’s DOJ has just been given the green light to gin up a story and then initiate an investigation.
You’re celebrating it, QoS McHillbilly. I’m not sure why, ’cause you’ve got more than five more years of it to go.
Not only can a ham sandwich be indicted, one can be investigated by the FBI, now. Somehow I don’t think the ACLU is celebrating.
I’llHaveAPilsner spews:
@18
I have on good authority that Breitbart staff writers showed up to work today in track suits and Nikes and no one has been seen going to lunch. Maybe someone should check.
Roger Rabbit spews:
Former kidnap victim Elizabeth Smart’s dad just came out, after struggling for years to come to grips with being gay.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ed-smart-gay-father-of-elizabeth-smart-on-struggle-to-come-out-gayle-king-interview/
Roger Rabbit Commentary: This guy tried really hard to think straight, act straight, and be straight. Really hard. Even prayed to be straight! Nothing worked. Maybe being gay isn’t a lifestyle he chose? Could it be he’s gay because that’s how the Mormon God made him, despite the anti-gay teachings of the Mormon Church? Holy cow! We know for sure God isn’t fucked up — the Bible says God is infallible — so their teachings must be fucked up.
Roger Rabbit spews:
@20 Even without reading it, I’m pretty sure the Horowitz report takes the position that the FBI needs some scrap of probable cause to initiate a criminal investigation, which blows out of the water whatever Barr may be inclined to do. And also your contention that it somehow gives him a “green light” to indulge in his partisan hackery or use taxpayer resources to pursue baseless conspiracy theories.
Roger Rabbit spews:
So, are you a little curious about how Fox Propaganda Network is playing the Horowitz news? Here’s how:
“Durham blisters Horowitz after IG report spares FBI brass in Trump probe origins”
“US Attorney Durham objects to IG findings on Russia probe origins in stunning statement”
“The U.S. attorney who is conducting a wide-ranging investigation of the origins of the Trump-Russia probe released a rare statement Monday saying he disagrees with conclusions of the so-called FISA report — after DOJ Inspector General Michael Horowitz found in that review that the probe’s launch largely complied with DOJ and FBI policies.” …
“As Horowitz has conducted his review of DOJ actions during the Russia probe, Durham, the U.S. attorney for Connecticut, has also been conducting a wider inquiry into alleged misconduct and alleged improper government surveillance on the Trump campaign during the 2016 presidential election. Fox News reported in October that Durham’s ongoing probe has transitioned into a full-fledged criminal investigation.”
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/barr-blasts-fbi-over-intrusive-probe-of-trump-campaign-in-wake-of-fisa-report
Steve spews:
“He’s a Never Trumper. ”
Which is just another way of saying, “Never Putin”.
What with his being a #dumbfuckforPutin, I can see why the doctor has issues with that.
Steve spews:
“a “green light” to indulge in his partisan hackery or use taxpayer resources to pursue baseless conspiracy theories.”
I can see how that would give a #dumbfuckforPutin a leg tingle.
@godwinha spews:
@ 24
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Monday, December 9, 2019
Statement of U.S. Attorney John H. Durham
“I have the utmost respect for the mission of the Office of Inspector General and the comprehensive work that went into the report prepared by Mr. Horowitz and his staff. However, our investigation is not limited to developing information from within component parts of the Justice Department. Our investigation has included developing information from other persons and entities, both in the U.S. and outside of the U.S. Based on the evidence collected to date, and while our investigation is ongoing, last month we advised the Inspector General that we do not agree with some of the report’s conclusions as to predication and how the FBI case was opened.”
Also for YLB @ 11, who possesses no ability to comprehend anything below a headline.
Roger Rabbit spews:
As this is a liberal blog, and most of its readers are liberals who can’t put themselves inside the rightwing mind, a little interpretation of the Fox article may aid understanding here.
To wit, as Doctor Dumbfuck’s HA comments have amply made clear on repeated occasions over the years, to the rightwing mind. e.g., the Fox audience and Doctor Dumbfuck, accusation equals guilt.
No real investigation or trial is needed to validate the accusatory claims. That’s why Ukraine didn’t have to actually investigate the Bidens, but to get the military aid only had to announce an investigation, which to every Republican on the planet is the same thing as guilty.
So if Barr “suspects” the Trump campaign was the target of Obama surveillance, it was. Or at least the Fox crowd will eat it up, and that’s all they really need.
BENN-GHAAZZZIII!!!!!
Roger Rabbit spews:
Joe McCarthy must be jealous in his grave. He was a minnow compared to today’s Fox/GOP/Facebook smear machine.
Elijah Dominic McDotcom spews:
Russian Olympic Committee announced today it will enter into a JDA with Roger Stone, Paul Manafort, Rick Gates, Michael Cohen, Michael Flynn, George Papadopolous, and some guy named “David Dennison”.
Roger Rabbit spews:
@27 Oh, I think YLB knows a partisan hack when he sees one.
@godwinha spews:
I think Roger Dumbfuck Rabbit should write a handbill.us piece with the title “What citizens don’t understand about the words treason and traitor”.
Then he can use @ 2 and himself as his primary examples.
Americans have forgotten what ‘treason’ actually means — and how it can be abused
https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/americans-have-forgotten-what-treason-actually-means-how-it-can-ncna848651
When the word ‘traitor’ is used as commonly as a Kleenex, and everyone’s a traitor, then no one’s a traitor.
Here’s the right-wing version of Roger Dumbfuck Rabbit’s stupidity:
WATCH: Infowars Host Interrupts Impeachment Hearing, Accuses Nadler of Treason
https://pjmedia.com/trending/watch-infowars-host-interrupts-impeachment-hearing-accuses-nadler-of-treason/
Roger Dumbfuck Rabbit, if ever you were able to disengage yourself from your indwelling urethral and rectal catheters to be seen in public, this is how you would appear.
Elijah Dominic McDotcom spews:
27,
Everybody knows, you never go full
retardMarshall Applewhite.Farting in the bathtub and laughing their asses off.
It’s Every Republican You Know.
WTF!? spews:
What is a “Never Humper”?
Do you have to be like Never, never, never, never, never, or do you just not have to like Putin, Russia, Treason, Swamps and Coal, and Fat Fuck liars.
Is Mitch McConnel a “Never Liberal”?
Steve spews:
“When the word ‘traitor’ is used as commonly as a Kleenex, and everyone’s a traitor, then no one’s a traitor.”
Perhaps you fucks shouldn’t have tarred people as traitors for not going along with your plan to invade the wrong fucking country.
I’d say your problem with our using the word treason is really this, Doctor. I mean, besides payback being a bitch.
This time it’s true. You’ve sold our country out to fucking Russia. I stand with Rick Wilson and many other patriotic Republicans. Hell, today I stand with the despicable Jonah Fucking Goldberg, who begat the deplorable Mark Musser, who was the very fucking reason I came to HA.
I get that you don’t stand with us. Although I would disagree with these Republicans about most things, we’re first and foremost patriots, all of us. You’re not. We’re on Team America. You’re on Team Putin.
You’ve made your decision, it was the wrong one, you’ve refused to back off, and now you deserve to live in shame for betraying your country.
WTF!? spews:
Bob, do you think Steve would have that beer with you? In my eyes it’s not too late to come to your senses and denounce The Hump – I live by the motto “forgive and forget”, so it’s not to late for me to forgive and forget, but for others I’m not so sure.
All it took was one flush to bring down America, maybe we can make one last flush and flush The Hump down the toilet, the Turd that he is.
WTF!? spews:
Never Humper – the Brother P-touch label maker’s strike again.
They’ll do anything to avoid/stop a true debate over the facts.
WTF!? spews:
Really Bob? Really? Is that what’s keeping you up at night? You are a Loser Bob….big Capital L on your dick.
Steve spews:
“In my eyes it’s not too late to come to your senses”
Better he do it sooner than later.
Elijah Dominic McDotcom spews:
35,
For as long as America has been a sovereign nation there have existed two distinct definitions of treason, one legal and technical, the other moral and colloquial. Republicans embrace the later with gusto whenever they feel the need to send more poors and browns overseas to die for them. And they reject the latter entirely whenever they get caught red-handed wiping their asses with The Constitution. It has always been thus.
The United States was born in acts of treason. The war that established our sovereignty was fought over whose idea of “treason” would prevail. And the early years of our nation’s founding were preoccupied with ideas and very real threats of treason. Probably the greatest and most terrible historical event in our first 100 years of existence was prefaced with treason.
Americans have been both obsessed with and casual about the word since the very beginning. It’s is a fundamental part of being American. So whenever another ivory tower klownsurvaturd launches into the latest round of tone policing around that word (or really any other), just remember that. Republicans only become hyper-sensitive about how language is being used when it is being used to describe them more accurately than they would prefer.
Roger Rabbit spews:
“Attorney General William Barr and the US attorney he picked to lead a probe into the origins of the Russia investigation criticized the FBI on Monday and contradicted some of the key findings of a report by the Justice Department’s inspector general.”
https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/09/politics/barr-ig-watchdog-report/index.html
Right. The IG didn’t find what we wanted him to find, so we’ll just make it up. That’s how Republicans operate now.
@godwinha spews:
Biden really didn’t have a choice. Not if he wanted to win South Carolina.
Trump War Room (Text TRUMP to 88022)
Verified account
@TrumpWarRoom
Joe Biden called the United Daughters Of The Confederacy “an organization made up of many fine people who continue to display the Confederate flag.”
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11:09 AM – 8 Dec 2019
It was only Friday that QoS McHillbilly figured that taking down Nikki Haley wouldn’t mean Grandpa Joe Biden gets taken down as well.
Video embedded in the tweet.
Roger Rabbit spews:
@32 A Republican shill is complaining about me calling someone a traitor?
HAR HAR HAR HAW HAW HEE HEE HAR HAW HA HA HA HOO HEE HA HAR HAR HA HA HA HAW HAW HAR HEE HOO HA HA HO HO HE HEE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1XNhU3otrI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjwPiE1wCU0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wry9buygt0E
^ Not a word from you about any of that, though. Your faux outrage is selective, pardner.
Roger Rabbit spews:
@38 Man, that quote sure describes everyone in the Trump swamp.
Elijah Dominic McDotcom spews:
42,
25 years v. 25 hours.
Meh. Time is an illusion created by entropy. Besides, when you’ve got a DERPSTATE! TIME MUSHEEN it’s all samey same!
Roger Rabbit spews:
“President Donald Trump said Monday that a new Justice Department report that found a solid legal basis for the original FBI investigation of his 2016 campaign had actually documented an ‘attempted overthrow’ of the government that was ‘far worse than I ever thought possible.’
“‘We’re lucky we caught ’em,’ he said at the White House, following the release of the long-awaited report by the Justice Department’s watchdog that rebutted his regular depiction of a politically biased plot against him.
“The report by the Justice Department Inspector General Michael Horowitz concluded that the FBI and the Justice Department launched their investigation into the 2016 campaign not for political reasons, but due to evidence the Russian government was using go-betweens to reach out to the Trump campaign as part of its efforts to influence the election.”
https://www.aol.com/article/news/2019/12/09/trump-ig-report-documents-attempted-overthrow-of-government/23877552/
Roger Rabbit Commentary: This bullshit is right up there with telephone robocall scam scripts. The sad thing is, some people believe it. That’s why the scammers can stay in business.
A1 spews:
Demorat Pornstar Party Of Hate America & Arrogant & Stupid Buffoons News – Thanks For Fartblower You Fracking Clowns.
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Even amid a litter of polls highlighting Trump’s unpopularity relative to other recent presidents, he appears to be trending in the right direction in the places that matter most. In Wisconsin, which many political analysts expect to be the tipping point state in the 2020 presidential election, the latest poll from Marquette University Law School shows opinion moving toward Trump both on the matter of impeachment and in head-to-head matchups with the top Democratic hopefuls. In October, Joe Biden, Elizabeth Warren, and Bernie Sanders were all leading Trump in Wisconsin. By late November, he had pulled ahead of all three and was beating Pete Buttigieg, too.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-12-09/don-t-look-now-but-things-are-getting-brighter-for-trump?srnd=premium-africa
Pars Dominae Foetidae spews:
It a toss-up in 2020. Could go either way.
Roger Rabbit spews:
This is interesting:
“Stock investors are hedging in a big way against something scary coming at them this time next year and it could be related to the outcome of the presidential election.
“The price of buying … a negative bet on the S&P 500 is at a historical level …, according to Julian Emanuel, head of equity and derivatives strategy at BTIG. …
“‘[T]he price of downside puts relative to upside calls is literally pricing an election apocalypse,’ said Emanuel. … ‘The left, the right and the center are all worried about highly unstable electoral outcomes,’ said Emanuel. … Emanuel calls it “unprecedented apprehension” on the part of investors.”
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/12/09/investors-are-terrified-of-something-a-year-from-now-and-theyre-placing-bets-to-hedge-themselves.html
Steve spews:
Of course they did.
“Fox News Nation commercial celebrates an ‘all-American Christmas’ that only features white people”
https://www.rawstory.com/2019/12/fox-news-nation-commercial-celebrates-an-all-american-christmas-that-only-features-white-people/
Elijah Dominic McDotcom spews:
Pork Slop,
trading Wisconsin for North Carolina doesn’t actually help.
Keep fuckin’ that chicken!
Roger Rabbit spews:
@51 Why do you even bother? His comments are just litter he threw at a trash receptacle and missed.
Roger Rabbit spews:
How not to steal a domain name.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/social-media-influencer-gets-14-years-prison-plot-hijack-website-n1098721
@godwinha spews:
On Monday, when QoS McHillbilly was doing his best YLB cheerleader imitation over the Horowitz report, I pointed out
http://horsesass.org/open-thre.....nt-1392391
that the ACLU wouldn’t be very happy with it.
I wasn’t kidding:
While the report found that there wasn’t an improper purpose or initiation of the investigation, it also found significant problems that are alarming from a civil liberties perspective. For instance, the litany of problems with the Carter Page surveillance applications demonstrates how the secrecy shrouding the government’s one-sided FISA approval process breeds abuse. The concerns the Inspector General identifies apply to intrusive investigations of others, including especially Muslims, and far better safeguards against abuse are necessary.
https://www.aclu.org/press-releases/aclu-comment-doj-inspector-general-report-examining-fbi-investigation-trump-campaign
I do more than troll.