How we on the left behave and define ourselves should not be dependent or defined in anyway on how those on the right behave and define themselves.
Thanks,
Michael
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Seattle Momspews:
Calling phone sex and the sending of nude pictures to multiple women e-flirting, is blatant padding. It’s the same mindset that allowed Weiner to lie for a week, hoping he could contain the event. I happen to agree that Vitter should resign. But if you want to appear credible, don’t try and minimize the obvious. Words have meaning. Flirting is much more innocuous.
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Michaelspews:
We really need to spend more time on who we are and less on who they are.
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Michaelspews:
@2
Flirting is a two way thing. This was just a dick head sending around photos of exactly that. It’s creepy.
Then we on the left should behave as the culture warriors on the right think we should?
@4
Seen the photo that leaked to Breitbart woman sent to Weiner? The one in her lingerie? Two way street indeed.
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Michaelspews:
Then we on the left should behave as the culture warriors on the right think we should?
Nope!
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proud leftistspews:
Cantor is, of course, a total hypocrite. Rachel totally creamed him. Vetter should resign if Weiner should. I’m not sure either should. But, no Republican should call for Weiner’s resignation without calling for Vitter’s resignation. It is not a close call. What say ye Puddy, Maxie, or LD? Surely, you must agree.
“How we on the left behave and define ourselves should not be dependent or defined in anyway on how those on the right behave and define themselves.”
What a odd message you’ve taken from the Maddow video. She offers no prescriptions or proscriptions on how the left should behave. Rather, she examines the deep hypocrisy on the part of the right.
You seem to suggest that the past and current behavior of the right cannot be examined because this is a scandal of a person on the left. What’s up with that shit?!?
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Roger Rabbitspews:
Influential Democrats are now calling for Weiner’s resignation, and of course he should go. You would never see this from Republicans. Hypocrites indeed! Their mantra is to cling to power no matter what. For them, winning is everything, and morality counts for nothing. Hence all the lying, corruption, and dirty tricks. If Weiner doesn’t quit he should be dragged out by his hair. So should Vitter. What’s good for the goose is good for the gander.
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Roger Rabbitspews:
Actually, I think being a Republican should be a crime in and of itself.
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Roger Rabbitspews:
Sending a photo of your genitals to a woman hurts the woman you send it to. Being a Republican hurts the whole country.
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Roger Rabbitspews:
So which is the more serious offense? Being a creep or being a Republican? I submit that being a Republican is much worse than being a creep.
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Roger Rabbitspews:
Back in the Nixon days even the Republicans recognized this fact when they named Nixon’s re-election organization CREEP (Committee for the Re-Election of the President).
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Puddybud, identifying northwest liberals who elected an underexperienced man to the presidency weighed down by an oversized egospews:
What say ye Puddy, Maxie, or LD?
Oh so now proud goatist wants to know what I think?
Say it ain’t so goatmaster. Still waiting for the goatmaster to say Weiner has to go! So you go first. You seem to forget who was one of the first to say Foley has to go if they were under aged contacts. While I waited for the facts y’all screamed he had to leave. Then the FBI said they weren’t under age contacts.
Weiner is a hemmorrhoid! Guess he wanted to show he was “black” below the belt line.
Still waiting for the goatmaster to say Weiner has to go!
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Puddybud, identifying northwest liberals who elected an underexperienced man to the presidency weighed down by an oversized egospews:
But you can see the aptly named pic by Weinerschnitzel himself“Weiner and the Pussys” right nere.
Weiner, 46, wrote to the woman, “ridiculous bulge in my shorts now. wanna see?”
She responded: “Yea! can u send a pic?”
“jeez, im rushing. let me take a quick pic,” Weiner answered.
Tooooooooooooooooooo
Damnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
Fuuuuuuuuuuunnnnnnny
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MarkSspews:
So puttybutt do you wear a diaper like Vitter does?
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Stevespews:
“Then the FBI said they weren’t under age contacts.”
The Republican mindset in a nutshell. Foley didn’t break any laws because the kids were a few days past being jailbait. So there’s no moral problem there. Of course, there’s no mention of Vitter and his breaking prositution laws. As Vitter doesn’t fit the talking-ponits narrative, it’s best not speak of that at all. We hear that “Weiner is a hemmorrhoid!” What laws did he break?
Never mind. Seeing as how the Republican party is home to the nation’s white-collar perverts, one shouldn’t hope for any straight talk on this subject. IOKIYAR is the guiding principle here.
“Guess he wanted to show he was “black” below the belt line.”
The poster should take this up with someone who cares, perhaps his old sockpuppet, MWS, with whom he already has a rather curious history of discussing black dicks in these comment threads.
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what?spews:
who gives a shit what weiner does that isn’t about the economy our vets taxes and the budget? so sorr7y to see dems buy the bait and call for his resignation when it’s the gop telling the lies every day and leaving vitter in place anyway. even on a comment thread you see automatic lying by the right wingers, like the lie that weiner is rich when one minute googlling shows he’s not. the whole finance ubble was built on lies, the entire gop platform is a lie, and the democrats are too chicken to keep the focus on that. no wonder we lose all the arguments, we let distractions take over, and we don’t fight back. the problem is democrats who join in — just like cantor wants ……
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Jethro Trollspews:
@8
They are both scuzzy douchebags…get rid of them both.
so sayeth max.
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Michaelspews:
@9
What a odd message you’ve taken from the Maddow video. She offers no prescriptions or proscriptions on how the left should behave.
Exactly!
@13
They’re pretty much the same thing. So when one of ours acts like that it’s a good reason to jettison them.
every night she says the left should have the balls to tell the truth about the gop — to call them out.
“they’re pretty much the same thing”? one is a lie to cover up personal embarssment of sending your dick photo around town. the other one, the gop lie, is to enrich the rich at the expense of wrecking our economy and improvershing the middle class — to benefit your rich donors and be successful in politics. so one is a small thing and the other an important thing, unless you equate one dick shot with the welfare of our nation. thinking they’re the same thing reduces politics to infotainment game of media gotcha — exactly where the gop rich and corporations want us to keep our attention while they plunder our nation for their own profit ….have you not noticed we have real problems? do you not know they have causes? do you not know the cause is the bush tax cuts, the lie that cutting taxes creates a good economy, a lie disproven not only here to get out of the depression but everywhere, every fucking successful nation with growing gdp and high standard of living hs HIGHER TAXES than us , we are at 50 year low in federal taxes, yet the gop the right offer more tax cuts. they’re like the tony soprano gang taking over the sporting goods store….but instead of force, they use lies to convince us to continue down the path of wrecking our nation while they suck out the benefits up front. their whole program is a scam and weiner called them out on this. so for dems to shoot at him is bullshit cowardice. THAT’s WHY we lose. Our leaders don’t call out the gop on their lies, they buy iunto them then we dance there tune…how ridiculous we would be calling for weiner to resign when vitter is still in office. how suicidal can we get? not suicidal enough, apparently. bulldozed so easily like a bunch of little scaredycats.
Are you suggesting there is something improper about examining the profound hypocrisy of the right in this matter?
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Michaelspews:
@24
Yes, the Republicans are dreadful. Yes we should talk about them in relation to this and other stories, but not to the expense of getting our message out about who we are and what we are about. Which is what’s happening. Turn on the tube, go to a meeting of lefties and you’ll hear plenty about the Republicans and little about the left. We could declare a Republican free we, but even then we’re defining it by their absence, not our presence. See what I’m getting at? It seems really simple and obvious to me.
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Michaelspews:
@24
If we sit down and talk about who we on the left are, what we believe in, what we’ve done, what we want to do in the future, is there a place in there for a congressman who spends his free time sending out unsolicited pictures of his crotch? At least one of the recipients of his pictures described his behavior as creepy. How does supporting him fit in with the struggle for women’s rights and equality? How does it fit with equality among social and economic classes?
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Michaelspews:
Oops,
Republican free we,
Should be: Republican free week.
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Blue Johnspews:
@26. Would we be having all this soul searching if the congressman were gay and sending pics to college guys? If the congressman had been a woman and sending pics to college guys?
But for me, that’s not the point. He didn’t’ break any laws, unlike say…Vitter.
>>is there a place in there for a congressman who spends his free time sending out unsolicited pictures of his crotch?
I don’t care that he was doing that, it was legal. I want him to resign because of the cover up and denial. I don’t trust him because of that. We caught him lying. That is unacceptable.
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Roger Rabbitspews:
@16 r u gel us? If u had sent a pic of your shorts to her, she prolly wudda answered, “What bulge?”
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Michaelspews:
I don’t trust him because of that. We caught him lying. That is unacceptable.
Agreed!
>>is there a place in there for a congressman who spends his free time sending out unsolicited pictures of his crotch?
I don’t care that he was doing that,.
I care because it was unsolicited. None of these women asked for anything like that. At least one of them found it “creepy.” If he was logging it too shareyourcockshot.com from home that would be his business. I’d find it kinda gross, but I really wouldn’t care.
As this has unfolded I’ve really noticed is how much we talk about Republicans and how little we talk about ourselves. The clip above is a perfect example of that.
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Right Stuffspews:
Darryl,
I know it bothers you to no end that such a prominent liberal is going down….But what I find to be high hilarity is this massive, coordinated effort to deflect attention from Weiner….
Vitter? Really?
I don’t see the hipocrisy..
I could give a rip about Weiner tweeting about his junk. Who cares…
The problem with Weiner is his tall tale….
He lied, lied, then recruited others to lie with him, engaged his political machine to tell his tale, even stooping to blame the messenger…The talking heads were out, the plan was engaged to try to save him…
Except that he was lying.
If he’d come out and said, “you know, I’ve been acting the fool, like a teenage kid, all hormones and no brains, I did this and now I have to make things right with my wife….”
Fine, he’s an idiot, the folks in his district can decide if they want him come election time.
what he did was really stupid (tweet his meat), but the lying, tall tales and blame game are going to cost him his position…
He should go.
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what?spews:
it’s all bullshit. jumping all over weiner while vitter is still in office? vitter commtited CRIMES. and lied. but even crimes really aren’t anyone else’s busienss but the voters of the guy’s district, you know?
it’s asked above who are we on the left if someone is sending out crotch shots and at least one woman said it was creepy. Puhleeze. That’s bad but not the end of the world. If you looked into every politicans and every man’s past, there’s some creepyness in there. it’s not the worst thing in the world. here’s things it is not as bad as
-blow jobs in the oval office from one over whom you have power
-dalliances with mob molls making you subject to blackmail;
–lying to eleanor for years while maintaining amorous relationship with your secretary; dying when with her, in warm springs, not while near your wonderful loving patient wife.
–going to prostitutes in DC and new orleans.
–driving at 80 mph after three beers which about 60% of all congresspersons have done …
–fuck man, all these congresspeople are neglecting their kids prettty much, that’s pretty bad if you really want to know. No they don’t have time for their kids unless to use the as props
This is a matter for weiner voters to decide, not us; the whole thing is a profit driven infotainment machine we are enabling, all part of the way the right rules this country by doing anything to keep the focus off their economic lying scam machinations. the economic policy institute today shows the effect of bush tax cuts was NOT to create jobs; this is a FACT; therefore every time the gop says let’s cut taxes to create jobs it is a LIE; and each one of those lies counts 10,000 more on the sinfullness scale than sending a dick or telling lies for a week about it as it affects just one woman, the wife, and one other woman, the one it was sent to.
don’t take the gop bait. let ms. weiner handle this, in fact, our obsession with it is thoroughly disrespectful to her and her interests ….why are we causing her pain? the media outing of the woman in bellingham also was crude, she said she didn’t want publicity, and all the folks wallowing in this affair with gleeful scornfulness are the real perves….let it alone. I sometimes have friends who make stupid, jokes about the male anatomy. It’;s crude and offensive. You let it go without comment — if you then start haranging them and lecturing them yo’re putting way more attention on it and it’s YOU WHO’S keeping the subject alive and making a big deal about it.
how weird is that? you really want to have the general public policing the sex lives and personal crudities of every elected official? how voyeuristic and perverted is that?
Then when a Republican gets caught “it’s up to his constituents” to remove him.
When this happens to a Dem, the first words are “he should resign”.
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what?spews:
@34
riiiiight you’re starting to get it.
riiiiight the first words from “some” dems are “he should resign.”
Not. Me. Do. You. Hear. Me. Now?
The suggstion is this: these low level tawdry unseemly acts, misdemeanors and even many crimes (DUI, assault IV, smoking pot which of course 30% HAVE DONE in congess, we are such hypocrites aren’t we) or being a drunk driver….are for the voters to decide. We, the people have better things to do than to expect or monitor all public elected officials for every fucking little sin they commit. It’s perverse to do so. We, the people, have more important things to do. No, th world isn’t falling apart because of delcining moral standards; yes, if we try to police for morality to this extent we’ll b like the romans with julius caiser running the priesthood and corrupting the morals police tfor political ends. THAT danger is far more dangerous than anthony weiner’s pecker.
Change the channel. we all see the stranger, right, it has ads for prostitutes, right? well we don’t slam them for being immoral do we? just put it aside folks.
At the same time, let me amend that…when it’s crimes it’s for the voters AND the local prosecutors where the crime was committed, naturally. So if the dc prosecutors got Vitter being a john, sure, issue a warant for him to appear and put him in the DC jail for a few days ..without strong local ties I would deny bail….then sentence him to 7 days in the DC jail.
Good luck to him and all that. Ensign, I believe should do about 25 years in the federal pen. But hey, this is for prosecutors.
And everyone of them who’s smoked pot who is calling for weiner to resign for a noncrime? what a bunch of hypocrites, the lot of them, and the way we the people join in the witch hunting is fairly disgusting.
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John Coaltrainspews:
For years I thought that Dick Army was a description of the Republican party.
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Puddybud, identifying northwest liberals who elected an underexperienced man to the presidency weighed down by an oversized egospews:
As Norm Dicks the description of the Democrats.
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what?spews:
56% of weiner’s constituents want him to stay.
So the democrats calling for him to resign are bigger scaredy pants buffalowed wussies than his own voters.
hopefully now the democrats calling for him to resign for some misunderstood need to”restore morality in politics” will start to buck up and stand by the guy.
and remember every time you call for him to resign without clling on vitter to resign and without calling on the pot smoking congressmen to resign, which is a third of them, and without calling on those telling the lie that tax cuts equal jobs? every time you do that — you’ve being a tool and a fool used by the gop — just like cantor wants you to be.
oughta look at weiner and learn a lesson from him about guts. he’s got failings like ALL of us, but unlike most democrats, he’s got guts.
so good for him for standing up to all the d’s who didn’t stand by him.
in a few weeks this will blow over and they’ll be back at asking for his vote.
studds. vitter. adam clayton fucking powell dudes. No, we do not need “personal morality” in our elected officials. What a silly idea. go read about the italiam pm and when it gets to THAT level we can have a morality freak out here, okay? but we ain’t close.
Michael spews:
Dear Rachel Maddow,
How we on the left behave and define ourselves should not be dependent or defined in anyway on how those on the right behave and define themselves.
Thanks,
Michael
Seattle Mom spews:
Calling phone sex and the sending of nude pictures to multiple women e-flirting, is blatant padding. It’s the same mindset that allowed Weiner to lie for a week, hoping he could contain the event. I happen to agree that Vitter should resign. But if you want to appear credible, don’t try and minimize the obvious. Words have meaning. Flirting is much more innocuous.
Michael spews:
We really need to spend more time on who we are and less on who they are.
Michael spews:
@2
Flirting is a two way thing. This was just a dick head sending around photos of exactly that. It’s creepy.
YLB spews:
Seattle Mom
Must be Mrs. Delbert.
czechsaaz spews:
@1
Then we on the left should behave as the culture warriors on the right think we should?
@4
Seen the photo that leaked to Breitbart woman sent to Weiner? The one in her lingerie? Two way street indeed.
Michael spews:
Nope!
proud leftist spews:
Cantor is, of course, a total hypocrite. Rachel totally creamed him. Vetter should resign if Weiner should. I’m not sure either should. But, no Republican should call for Weiner’s resignation without calling for Vitter’s resignation. It is not a close call. What say ye Puddy, Maxie, or LD? Surely, you must agree.
Darryl spews:
Michael,
“How we on the left behave and define ourselves should not be dependent or defined in anyway on how those on the right behave and define themselves.”
What a odd message you’ve taken from the Maddow video. She offers no prescriptions or proscriptions on how the left should behave. Rather, she examines the deep hypocrisy on the part of the right.
You seem to suggest that the past and current behavior of the right cannot be examined because this is a scandal of a person on the left. What’s up with that shit?!?
Roger Rabbit spews:
Influential Democrats are now calling for Weiner’s resignation, and of course he should go. You would never see this from Republicans. Hypocrites indeed! Their mantra is to cling to power no matter what. For them, winning is everything, and morality counts for nothing. Hence all the lying, corruption, and dirty tricks. If Weiner doesn’t quit he should be dragged out by his hair. So should Vitter. What’s good for the goose is good for the gander.
Roger Rabbit spews:
Actually, I think being a Republican should be a crime in and of itself.
Roger Rabbit spews:
Sending a photo of your genitals to a woman hurts the woman you send it to. Being a Republican hurts the whole country.
Roger Rabbit spews:
So which is the more serious offense? Being a creep or being a Republican? I submit that being a Republican is much worse than being a creep.
Roger Rabbit spews:
Back in the Nixon days even the Republicans recognized this fact when they named Nixon’s re-election organization CREEP (Committee for the Re-Election of the President).
Puddybud, identifying northwest liberals who elected an underexperienced man to the presidency weighed down by an oversized ego spews:
Oh so now proud goatist wants to know what I think?
Say it ain’t so goatmaster. Still waiting for the goatmaster to say Weiner has to go! So you go first. You seem to forget who was one of the first to say Foley has to go if they were under aged contacts. While I waited for the facts y’all screamed he had to leave. Then the FBI said they weren’t under age contacts.
Weiner is a hemmorrhoid! Guess he wanted to show he was “black” below the belt line.
Still waiting for the goatmaster to say Weiner has to go!
Puddybud, identifying northwest liberals who elected an underexperienced man to the presidency weighed down by an oversized ego spews:
But you can see the aptly named pic by Weinerschnitzel himself“Weiner and the Pussys” right nere.
Tooooooooooooooooooo
Damnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
Fuuuuuuuuuuunnnnnnny
MarkS spews:
So puttybutt do you wear a diaper like Vitter does?
Steve spews:
“Then the FBI said they weren’t under age contacts.”
The Republican mindset in a nutshell. Foley didn’t break any laws because the kids were a few days past being jailbait. So there’s no moral problem there. Of course, there’s no mention of Vitter and his breaking prositution laws. As Vitter doesn’t fit the talking-ponits narrative, it’s best not speak of that at all. We hear that “Weiner is a hemmorrhoid!” What laws did he break?
Never mind. Seeing as how the Republican party is home to the nation’s white-collar perverts, one shouldn’t hope for any straight talk on this subject. IOKIYAR is the guiding principle here.
http://www.republicanoffenders.com/Pedophiles.html
“Guess he wanted to show he was “black” below the belt line.”
The poster should take this up with someone who cares, perhaps his old sockpuppet, MWS, with whom he already has a rather curious history of discussing black dicks in these comment threads.
what? spews:
who gives a shit what weiner does that isn’t about the economy our vets taxes and the budget? so sorr7y to see dems buy the bait and call for his resignation when it’s the gop telling the lies every day and leaving vitter in place anyway. even on a comment thread you see automatic lying by the right wingers, like the lie that weiner is rich when one minute googlling shows he’s not. the whole finance ubble was built on lies, the entire gop platform is a lie, and the democrats are too chicken to keep the focus on that. no wonder we lose all the arguments, we let distractions take over, and we don’t fight back. the problem is democrats who join in — just like cantor wants ……
Jethro Troll spews:
@8
They are both scuzzy douchebags…get rid of them both.
so sayeth max.
Michael spews:
@9
Exactly!
@13
They’re pretty much the same thing. So when one of ours acts like that it’s a good reason to jettison them.
YLB spews:
“Shtupping” – Rachel! LOL!
what? spews:
@21
every night she says the left should have the balls to tell the truth about the gop — to call them out.
“they’re pretty much the same thing”? one is a lie to cover up personal embarssment of sending your dick photo around town. the other one, the gop lie, is to enrich the rich at the expense of wrecking our economy and improvershing the middle class — to benefit your rich donors and be successful in politics. so one is a small thing and the other an important thing, unless you equate one dick shot with the welfare of our nation. thinking they’re the same thing reduces politics to infotainment game of media gotcha — exactly where the gop rich and corporations want us to keep our attention while they plunder our nation for their own profit ….have you not noticed we have real problems? do you not know they have causes? do you not know the cause is the bush tax cuts, the lie that cutting taxes creates a good economy, a lie disproven not only here to get out of the depression but everywhere, every fucking successful nation with growing gdp and high standard of living hs HIGHER TAXES than us , we are at 50 year low in federal taxes, yet the gop the right offer more tax cuts. they’re like the tony soprano gang taking over the sporting goods store….but instead of force, they use lies to convince us to continue down the path of wrecking our nation while they suck out the benefits up front. their whole program is a scam and weiner called them out on this. so for dems to shoot at him is bullshit cowardice. THAT’s WHY we lose. Our leaders don’t call out the gop on their lies, they buy iunto them then we dance there tune…how ridiculous we would be calling for weiner to resign when vitter is still in office. how suicidal can we get? not suicidal enough, apparently. bulldozed so easily like a bunch of little scaredycats.
Darryl spews:
Michael @ 9,
“Exactly!”
Okay…so then what was your beef @1?
Are you suggesting there is something improper about examining the profound hypocrisy of the right in this matter?
Michael spews:
@24
Yes, the Republicans are dreadful. Yes we should talk about them in relation to this and other stories, but not to the expense of getting our message out about who we are and what we are about. Which is what’s happening. Turn on the tube, go to a meeting of lefties and you’ll hear plenty about the Republicans and little about the left. We could declare a Republican free we, but even then we’re defining it by their absence, not our presence. See what I’m getting at? It seems really simple and obvious to me.
Michael spews:
@24
If we sit down and talk about who we on the left are, what we believe in, what we’ve done, what we want to do in the future, is there a place in there for a congressman who spends his free time sending out unsolicited pictures of his crotch? At least one of the recipients of his pictures described his behavior as creepy. How does supporting him fit in with the struggle for women’s rights and equality? How does it fit with equality among social and economic classes?
Michael spews:
Oops,
Should be: Republican free week.
Blue John spews:
@26. Would we be having all this soul searching if the congressman were gay and sending pics to college guys? If the congressman had been a woman and sending pics to college guys?
But for me, that’s not the point. He didn’t’ break any laws, unlike say…Vitter.
>>is there a place in there for a congressman who spends his free time sending out unsolicited pictures of his crotch?
I don’t care that he was doing that, it was legal. I want him to resign because of the cover up and denial. I don’t trust him because of that. We caught him lying. That is unacceptable.
Roger Rabbit spews:
@16 r u gel us? If u had sent a pic of your shorts to her, she prolly wudda answered, “What bulge?”
Michael spews:
Agreed!
I care because it was unsolicited. None of these women asked for anything like that. At least one of them found it “creepy.” If he was logging it too shareyourcockshot.com from home that would be his business. I’d find it kinda gross, but I really wouldn’t care.
As this has unfolded I’ve really noticed is how much we talk about Republicans and how little we talk about ourselves. The clip above is a perfect example of that.
Right Stuff spews:
Darryl,
I know it bothers you to no end that such a prominent liberal is going down….But what I find to be high hilarity is this massive, coordinated effort to deflect attention from Weiner….
Vitter? Really?
I don’t see the hipocrisy..
I could give a rip about Weiner tweeting about his junk. Who cares…
The problem with Weiner is his tall tale….
He lied, lied, then recruited others to lie with him, engaged his political machine to tell his tale, even stooping to blame the messenger…The talking heads were out, the plan was engaged to try to save him…
Except that he was lying.
If he’d come out and said, “you know, I’ve been acting the fool, like a teenage kid, all hormones and no brains, I did this and now I have to make things right with my wife….”
Fine, he’s an idiot, the folks in his district can decide if they want him come election time.
what he did was really stupid (tweet his meat), but the lying, tall tales and blame game are going to cost him his position…
He should go.
what? spews:
it’s all bullshit. jumping all over weiner while vitter is still in office? vitter commtited CRIMES. and lied. but even crimes really aren’t anyone else’s busienss but the voters of the guy’s district, you know?
it’s asked above who are we on the left if someone is sending out crotch shots and at least one woman said it was creepy. Puhleeze. That’s bad but not the end of the world. If you looked into every politicans and every man’s past, there’s some creepyness in there. it’s not the worst thing in the world. here’s things it is not as bad as
-blow jobs in the oval office from one over whom you have power
-dalliances with mob molls making you subject to blackmail;
–lying to eleanor for years while maintaining amorous relationship with your secretary; dying when with her, in warm springs, not while near your wonderful loving patient wife.
–going to prostitutes in DC and new orleans.
–driving at 80 mph after three beers which about 60% of all congresspersons have done …
–fuck man, all these congresspeople are neglecting their kids prettty much, that’s pretty bad if you really want to know. No they don’t have time for their kids unless to use the as props
This is a matter for weiner voters to decide, not us; the whole thing is a profit driven infotainment machine we are enabling, all part of the way the right rules this country by doing anything to keep the focus off their economic lying scam machinations. the economic policy institute today shows the effect of bush tax cuts was NOT to create jobs; this is a FACT; therefore every time the gop says let’s cut taxes to create jobs it is a LIE; and each one of those lies counts 10,000 more on the sinfullness scale than sending a dick or telling lies for a week about it as it affects just one woman, the wife, and one other woman, the one it was sent to.
don’t take the gop bait. let ms. weiner handle this, in fact, our obsession with it is thoroughly disrespectful to her and her interests ….why are we causing her pain? the media outing of the woman in bellingham also was crude, she said she didn’t want publicity, and all the folks wallowing in this affair with gleeful scornfulness are the real perves….let it alone. I sometimes have friends who make stupid, jokes about the male anatomy. It’;s crude and offensive. You let it go without comment — if you then start haranging them and lecturing them yo’re putting way more attention on it and it’s YOU WHO’S keeping the subject alive and making a big deal about it.
how weird is that? you really want to have the general public policing the sex lives and personal crudities of every elected official? how voyeuristic and perverted is that?
YLB spews:
31 – Vitter, Ensign and many other Republicans lied about their “family values”.
They all gotta go right?
Is it a bit clearer now?
YLB spews:
Then when a Republican gets caught “it’s up to his constituents” to remove him.
When this happens to a Dem, the first words are “he should resign”.
what? spews:
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riiiiight you’re starting to get it.
riiiiight the first words from “some” dems are “he should resign.”
Not. Me. Do. You. Hear. Me. Now?
The suggstion is this: these low level tawdry unseemly acts, misdemeanors and even many crimes (DUI, assault IV, smoking pot which of course 30% HAVE DONE in congess, we are such hypocrites aren’t we) or being a drunk driver….are for the voters to decide. We, the people have better things to do than to expect or monitor all public elected officials for every fucking little sin they commit. It’s perverse to do so. We, the people, have more important things to do. No, th world isn’t falling apart because of delcining moral standards; yes, if we try to police for morality to this extent we’ll b like the romans with julius caiser running the priesthood and corrupting the morals police tfor political ends. THAT danger is far more dangerous than anthony weiner’s pecker.
Change the channel. we all see the stranger, right, it has ads for prostitutes, right? well we don’t slam them for being immoral do we? just put it aside folks.
At the same time, let me amend that…when it’s crimes it’s for the voters AND the local prosecutors where the crime was committed, naturally. So if the dc prosecutors got Vitter being a john, sure, issue a warant for him to appear and put him in the DC jail for a few days ..without strong local ties I would deny bail….then sentence him to 7 days in the DC jail.
Good luck to him and all that. Ensign, I believe should do about 25 years in the federal pen. But hey, this is for prosecutors.
And everyone of them who’s smoked pot who is calling for weiner to resign for a noncrime? what a bunch of hypocrites, the lot of them, and the way we the people join in the witch hunting is fairly disgusting.
John Coaltrain spews:
For years I thought that Dick Army was a description of the Republican party.
Puddybud, identifying northwest liberals who elected an underexperienced man to the presidency weighed down by an oversized ego spews:
As Norm Dicks the description of the Democrats.
what? spews:
56% of weiner’s constituents want him to stay.
So the democrats calling for him to resign are bigger scaredy pants buffalowed wussies than his own voters.
hopefully now the democrats calling for him to resign for some misunderstood need to”restore morality in politics” will start to buck up and stand by the guy.
and remember every time you call for him to resign without clling on vitter to resign and without calling on the pot smoking congressmen to resign, which is a third of them, and without calling on those telling the lie that tax cuts equal jobs? every time you do that — you’ve being a tool and a fool used by the gop — just like cantor wants you to be.
oughta look at weiner and learn a lesson from him about guts. he’s got failings like ALL of us, but unlike most democrats, he’s got guts.
so good for him for standing up to all the d’s who didn’t stand by him.
in a few weeks this will blow over and they’ll be back at asking for his vote.
studds. vitter. adam clayton fucking powell dudes. No, we do not need “personal morality” in our elected officials. What a silly idea. go read about the italiam pm and when it gets to THAT level we can have a morality freak out here, okay? but we ain’t close.