Open Thread 7/2

- It looks like Rodney Tom has fucked over transit in King County so badly, that he might as well put his dick in the tailpipe of a Metro bus at this point.

– To say nothing of the Columbia River Crossing.

– There might be a longer piece given the amount of time Lee and I dedicated to making fun of him, but Lou Guzzo has died.

– Congrats to UNITE HERE for their contract with Hilton.

The metonymy of Olympia is especially galling

– Jean Godden is more confident than I am of the Tunnel Machine. Hope she’s right.

The Teanaway is all things to Washington recreationists and wildlife lovers. Its North Fork road gives access to renowned trail destinations in the Alpine Lakes Wilderness and Wenatchee Mountains — Ingalls Pass-Ingalls Lake, Longs Pass, Van Epps Pass and remote Lake Ann. The river valley is in rain shadow, allowing car campers to enjoy sunshine when it’s drizzly west of the Cascade Crest. A wolf pack populates the river’s remote West Fork.

– Call your kids whatever you want, celebrities.


  1. 1

    EvergreenRailfan spews:

    Former San Francisco Mayor Willie Brown has offered to be a mediator between BART’s unions and management. If he doesn’t make management offer double digit increases, like he did in 1997, it will work. The trains BART use are not your normal subway trains, they are wider, and faster, and go through an underwater tunnel in a known earthquake zone, so they should get a little more in hazard pay. If that recent contract offer had not been tied to hard to meet benchmarks, I think that the unions would have accepted it. What Mayor Willie Brown(got to use first names, Jerry Brown was mayor of Oakland at the time) got in the deal then, won’t work today. In 1997, the rolling stock wasn’t going on 40.

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    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Second Amendment Report

    A society in which people who shouldn’t have guns can easily get guns isn’t a polite society, it’s a society in which you have a lot of dead kids.

    Roger Rabbit Commentary: Conservatives are wrong about gun “rights” … but what have they ever been right about? This stupid ass had no trouble buying high-powered guns at the Tulalip Cabela’s, then shooting up a neighborhood in a drunken stupor.

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    EvergreenRailfan spews:

    Although Willie Brown had a transit criais of his own, the MUNI meltdown of 1998. On his watch, MUNI took delivery of new rolling stock that was plagued with problems, and a new train control system in the Market Street Subway. Both happening at the same time caused a lot of delays, and it was faster to walk down Market Street than to take the bus or train.

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    Puddybud spews:

    This stupid ass had no trouble buying high-powered guns at the Tulalip Cabela’s, then shooting up a neighborhood in a drunken stupor.

    And where is that Cabela’s located again SENILE and DUMB Wabbit?

    Puddy wonders if this is another west side based Obummer voter?

  5. 5

    wharfrat spews:

    Over here on the dry side the SR and various local/regional types are similarly pissed at Rodney. We now have a Spokane north side bypass which is one third complete, barely used and has no source of funding to finish. y guess is that Rodney will have difficulty finding funding for his next campaign.

  6. 6

    EvergreenRailfan spews:

    5) When I was at EWU, I remember hearing a few people upset about not having a North-South freeway, and blaming it on west siders. Perhaps the Spokane-area State Senators may have a common ally, with one’s from Seattle, against Senator Tom. I am just suggesting a truce on this issue, not saying they should agree on everything.

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    Deathfrogg spews:

    @ 4

    It doesn’t matter where the store was located, they’re still subject to every law in the land concerning the sales of firearms.

    Of course, being you, you don’t care to actually learn any facts at all about the subject in any case.

    You really are an appallingly ignorant man Spuddles.

    Hell, I didn’t know one could get a handgun in .30 carbine. Thats a hellava round for that.

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    rhp6033 spews:

    #4: For someone who purportedly lives in Everett, this comment indicates that you know very little about the demographics and voting patterns in Snohomish County. You also don’t seem to know who the customer base is for Cabellas.

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    No Time for Fascists spews:

    On the way in, I was sleepy and put on conservative radio.

    Did you know that the press was not supposed to attack Paula Dean because she was an Obama supporter? Apparently it’s shocking to conservative for liberals to condemn another liberal for wrongdoing. This may explains why conservatives never condemn their own for their wrongdoing.

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    EvergreenRailfan spews:

    On their facebook page, the San Francisco Municipal Transportation Agency, which oversees the San Francisco Municipal Railway, and the Department of Parking and Traffic, in addition to the taxi commission, reported MUNI had a 10% ridership increase on the first day of the strike. MUNI carries over 700,000 a day to begin with, so it is a big increase.

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    No Time for Fascists spews:

    @10. Didn’t care one way or the other. what I found interesting was the conservatives who were shocked, SHOCKED that the “liberal” press would attack a fellow “liberal”
    I inferred that conservative do not criticize fellow conservatives.

  12. 14

    No Time for Fascists spews:

    The “traditional marriage”-touting Family Research Council plans to usher in the first annual “Ex-Gay Pride Month” dinner in an attempt to promote “ex-gay” rights.

    “Come celebrate the lives of former homosexuals and hear about their unique stories and achievements!” reads the invitation.

    If only society would consider the rights of that persecuted, and oppressed hidden minority of people who were interested in the opposite sex.

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    EvergreenRailfan spews:

    14)Didn’t one of the groups that promote that just fold? Although some of the chapters joined other groups, it does not help their cause. That, and calling gay activists the same name as a certain German Regime that oppressed gay people,among others.

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    No Time for Fascists spews:

    @10. Also while listening to conservative radio, They were adamantly defending Zimmerman.

    Again the same theme, they were shocked, SHOCKED that the liberals would attack a Hispanic for shooting someone Black. In their minds it didn’t matter that Zimmerman killed the kid for no reason. Since he was latino and liberals are catering to(their words) latinos , liberals shouldn’t be criticizing what a latino did.

    It’s an interesting mindset.

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    Puddybud spews:

    It doesn’t matter where the store was located, they’re still subject to every law in the land concerning the sales of firearms.


    @4 yeah, thats because only locals shop at the locals Cabela’s.

    Puddy is appalling OWS Racist Fraggy? What’s your point you along with gleeman, you leftist morons? It seems Erick had no prior arrest record. All who work with him said he was a nice guy.

    This is what’s despicable about leftist loons… The SENILE and DUMB Wabbit blames this on Republican policies… Ummm no, he got his weapons in a leftist state fully run by leftists. You don’t like the truth… kiss Puddy’s ASS!

    It’s so sad the SENILE and DUMB Wabbit would politicize as always the death of a great young person. Butt, that’s the SENILE and DUMB Wabbit. Looks like this is one of his crooks.

    Suck on that you morons!

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    EvergreenRailfan spews:

    I meant some groups that oppose LGBT rights have used that term, I am not sure about the FRC.

    One of the reasons I got more interested in the equality side, came last year. When a former city councilmember came out, and called her life a waste because she had been afraid to tell everybody who she was. Part of the reason was probably because when she was an educator, it was a firing offense. The other was cultural. I had met Cheryl Chow when she was a councilmember, and she was a nice lady. At the time, I did not know what aLesbian was. I was thinking, people who had done a lot of good for this city, within city hall and out, should not be in the position of calling their life a waste because of what others may think.

  17. 19

    Ekim spews:

    Question: What is the difference between
    BUTTPUTTY and a pile of SHIT?

    Answer: That one is easy…
    BUTTPUTTY isn’t even worth a pile of SHIT.

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    Liberal Scientist is a Dirty Fucking Socialist Hippie spews:

    I would ask puddybigot this: is it more pathetic to be a crazy-ass cracker, or a crazy-ass cracker wannabe?

    Is it frustrating that you can never really be a crazy-ass cracker?


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    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @14 No wonder our economy is a shambles. Nobody works anymore. Either they’re gaming Wall Street (me) or spending all their time worrying about the sexual orientation of complete strangers (Republicans, conservatives, fundies, and other nutballs).

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    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @4 What does the Cabela’s location have to do with it? Cabela’s will put a store anywhere someone pays them to. They’re one of the most predatory chain retailers out there; they expect municipalities to build a $50 million store for them at taxpayer expense in exchange for a couple hundred minimum-wage jobs. The communities that fall for this must be awfully desperate for minimum-wage jobs.

    (Full disclosure: Roger Rabbit flipped Cabela’s stock a few years ago and made a shitload of money from it. I know a good thing when I see it; this company rips off taxpayers more efficiently than anyone else except professional sports team owners.)

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    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Cabela’s sells so many guns the U.N. would impose sanctions against them if they were a country instead of a company. But in free enterprise, anything goes, so nobody says anything.

  22. 25

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    The billionaire Cabela brothers are among the world’s largest arms merchants.

  23. 26

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @4 Actually, if the store is on an Indian reservation, state laws may not apply. Kinda like paying a visit to an Indian fireworks stand.

  24. 27

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Kudos for the Marysville police in this case. They worked it really hard and left no cartridge case unturned, except they couldn’t find the bullet that killed that unfortunate teenage girl.

    Of course, the suspect is presumed innocent until found guilty, so at this point, we want to be careful about what we say about a person who is only accused and not convicted of anything.

    Based on what’s being reported in the media, it appears this young girl, a straight-A student with her whole life in front of her, lost everything because some drunk’s idea of a good time was driving through a populated area and shooting randomly at houses, vehicles, and pedestrians.

    If the perpetrator is convicted, let us hope that consecutive sentences make sure he never sees the light of day again. He should be required to go to rehab, too. Make him sober up and then spend 50 or 60 years sitting in a small concrete cage reflecting on the innocent life he wantonly took for no damn reason at all.

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    Roger Rabbit spews:

    If people want to shoot M-1 .30-cal. firearms, they should join the National Guard and make themselves useful.

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    Roger Rabbit spews:

    10, 13 – Loyalty goes only so far. Racists are personae non grata in liberal/Democrat circles.

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    Liberal Scientist spews:

    @10, 13, 29….
    because conservatives do not recognize integrity….I that that might be the defining feature of a contemporary Republican…no integrity.

    Related, of course to stunted sense of empathy

    The parties aren’t defined so much by policy as by personality trait, and quality of character.

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    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @16 I wouldn’t say Zimmerman killed Martin for no reason. It looks like Martin jumped him and Zimmerman was getting beaten up. That’s material to whether he should be convicted of murder or manslaughter, but there’s no way Zimmerman should walk, because legally this wasn’t self-defense. You can’t instigate, provoke, or start a fight and then claim you had to shoot the other guy because he was thumping you. Our self-defense laws don’t allow that. If Zimmerman had done what the police dispatcher told him to do, i.e. stayed in his vehicle and waited for the police to arrive, instead of taking the law into his own hands, nobody would have got hurt. He’s a vigilante killer, and deserves to be convicted of manslaughter. I doubt the murder charge will stick, though, if the jury concludes Martin attacked him, which appears to be what happened. I think the jury will go with manslaughter and he’ll serve about 5 years.

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    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @30 That’s one of the defining features of contemporary Republicans, but they have so many, it’s hard to single out just one. For example, it’s hard to say “Republican” without also including “stupid” in the same sentence. In fact, the phrase “stupid Republican” arguably is redundant.

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    Zotz sez: They have a term for Puddybigot... spews:

    @20: O_R_E_O.

    The curious thing is why Darryl et al tolerate what amounts to spam.

  31. 34

    Zotz sez: Irony ain't just a wrinkle free collar... spews:

    Ironically and fortunately for us, this wannabee cop will never be one.

  32. 35

    Deathfrogg spews:

    I have a question for the Teafascists here.

    Why is it, that the primary, really the only argument you had about “Obamacare” was the point about how it would cause all medical care one would be allowed to have to be dictated by the Government and only allowed if one had the correct (liberal) political affiliations, but yet you have “Red” (fascist) States passing laws requiring certain highly intrusive, and totally unnecessary medical procedures as a legal condition of allowing a woman to have a rather simple medical operation done if she chooses not to bear a child?

    Why is it, that universal medical care would “destroy our freedoms” because it would make personal medical care a political football, yet you have one Governor of a State openly supporting and signing into Law a bill that would require a woman to request personal, written permission from him to be allowed an abortion even after that extremely intrusive ultrasound was completed?

    How is that not Government dictating what medical care one is allowed? How is that not “big Government”?

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    MikeBoyScout spews:

    @35 funny. You think “conservatives” are capable or willing to think through their political positions.

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    herzog spews:

    @36 their “political positions” are reactionary and have little to do with thought.

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    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @34 Unfortunately for us, a lot of Zimmerman-behave-alikes are cops.

    Cause-and-effect gets a little tricky here, but it appears that all across America a culture of violence is developing in police departments. In short, our police are becoming trigger-happy. See, e.g.,

    No longer problem solvers, no longer the calm and steady voices in a storm, our police are to be feared by guilty and innocent alike, because our paranoid police now react to every real or imagined threat to “officer safety” not only with drawn guns but with blazing guns.

    Most of the time, police who commit murder or manslaughter go unprosecuted and undisciplined … they just go back on duty after a brief “administrative leave with pay” while the “incident” is “investigated,” thanks to pro-police prosecutors, gutless mayors, and all-powerful police unions.


    What’s changing is that we no longer just have rogue cops, we now have rogue police departments, and a rogue justice system that refuses to hold cops who commit murder or mayhem legally accountable.

    The net result is that cops now literally hold the power of life and death over ordinary citizens, and boy do they know it. If you try to assert your constitutional rights to a cop, you just might get shot dead for your trouble.

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    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @36 No, I have a wingnut sibling, and he’s not capable of thinking anything through. His sole cognitive skill is regurgitating memorized Wingnut Talking Points (TM).

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    Hmmmm.. Klownservative Kooks in North Carolina want abortion clinics to meet the same standards as walk-in surgery centers.. That leads to only one abortion clinic in NC meeting that standard.. “Higher” standards – few to no abortion clinics

    The Kooks also want photo id for voting which is difficult for a lot of people to get, i.e the poor, the elderly, students.. Stricter requirements for voting means fewer …

    Uhh.. See how that works?