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    rhp6033 spews:

    One of the things which is flying under the radar right now is what should be a minor rules change for the FAA.

    The FAA generally considers flight information to be within the public domain, and on certain websites (like and you can input the tail number of the aircraft and find out the current location of the airplane. Lots of aerospace analysts have been using this recently to track the progress of Boeing’s test flights for the 787-8 and 747-8I programs.

    But since that information was first available to the public, there has been an exception for private and corporate aircraft. For some reason, Republicans have always insisted that this information should remain private, not available to the general public (or anyone else except the FAA and the airport operators).

    But the Obama administration, following it’s policy of open and transparant government, has instructed the FAA to issue rules to make these private and corporate flight information publically available. And that has raised a firestorm of outrage from within the confines of the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, which claims that such information would “aid terrorists, tabloid journalists, stalkers, betray proprietary information, and infringe on the privacy of the crew and passengers”.

    In other words, we would be able to confirm when a corporation is using it’s tax-deductable aircraft for vacation & political junkets, in-kind political donations, party trips to locations outside the U.S. for sex party trips for political gasbags and pundits, etc.

    So after insisting that the rules will go into effect (after the appropriate comment period), expect that the GOP controlled house will try hard to get the FAA to stop the rules, either by refusing to pass a budget for FAA operations until the rule is dropped, etc.

  2. 3

    Michael spews:

    The Weiner thing just gets weirder and weirder.
    The first person to notice Weiner’s dirty picture is having the heat turned up on him as his claims and persona become more and more mysterious. According to reports from The Smoking Gun, when Weiner’s picture hit the Twitter feed only one person noticed it and publicized it before it was taken down. That person is the maybe-real, maybe-fake @patriotusa76 – aka Dan Wolfe.

    Wolfe (or at this point he could be a she as no one knows anything about this person) sent Andrew Breitbart, who runs the conservative site, the photo that started this whole saga. Breitbart broke the story and the media frenzy ensued with poor “coed” Cordova and anyone at all associated with her being assaulted by reporters. Then Weiner refused to say whether or not the wiener-in-question was even his saying in interviews he “can’t say with certitude” whether the photo was him or not, just that he did not post it.

  3. 4

    Michael spews:

    It was plane spotters in England that broke the CIA covert prisons story. So, it’s not like it’s really private anyway. Anyone wiling to do the legwork could already find this out.

    I hope the Obama rule change goes through.

  4. 5


    Re Michael @ 1 is right on. The Daily World I believe is the newspaper.

    “Grays Harbor Paper was frequently cited in documentaries, television shows and national conferences about “green” industries that worked. It provided recycled paper to Nike, the City of Seattle, Microsoft, REI, the World Bank and other organizations. In 2009, the Legislature passed a bill requiring several state agencies to use at least 30 percent recycled papers; Grays Harbor Paper won most of those contracts.”

  5. 6

    Puddybud, identifying northwest liberals who elected an underexperienced man to the presidency weighed down by an oversized ego spews:

    The president praised Mr. Ryan’s efforts to address the budget problem. “He indicated that Paul Ryan is an honest broker, and my thought at that moment was, I would like to hear President Obama say that to the American public,” said Rep. Nan Hayworth (R., N.Y.).

    Ain’t gonna happen. Obummer is a demagoguer not an honest broker of truth!

  6. 7

    Puddybud, identifying northwest liberals who elected an underexperienced man to the presidency weighed down by an oversized ego spews:

    The Weiner thing just gets weirder and weirder.

    Yeah but Homer Simpson umm… rhp6033 believes WeinerVille.

  7. 8

    rhp6033 spews:

    The article on Romney shows he’s just another merger & acquisition pirate. These guys don’t produce a thing. They buy the controling interest in established companies using Wall Street money. Then they raid the company, extracting all the equity in the form of management/advisory fees, etc., usurious interest on loans for operating capital, etc., leaving the nothing left but a shell. Note that in this case they did a public offering to bring in more suckers (er, “investors”), then put the company into bankruptcy just three years later, wiping out all the shareholder’s value, as well as unsecured (trade) creditors, but making sure they get paid first as secured creditors.

    What’s left is a shell of a company. If they were doing this in Washington State with real estate, they would be guilty of the crime of Equity Skimming.

  8. 9

    rhp6033 spews:

    # 7: Given a choice between believing Weiner and Breitbart, I will choose the former. Because Breitbart has already been proven, several times, to release doctored/falsified videos to the news media to create a false impression of events for political purposes.

    Credibility can be a bitch, when you don’t have any.

  9. 10


    @1 and 5

    Embarrassing. What I get for skimming the headlines for something for an open thread when we haven’t had a post all day.

  10. 11

    Jethro Troll spews:


    so in other words, its big news if a newspaper goes out of business – cuz its the media n shit.

    but its no big deal if a lumber mill goes goes out of business – after all, they are just a bunch of “far-frum-teh-urban” people who lost their jobs.

    poor carly, doing his best to be TEH ELEETIST.

    but really he’s just another punk ass who would get his ass kicked by a 12 year old…


  11. 12

    Jethro Troll spews:

    hows that crow tasting RHP?

    did you back it or grill it?

    weiner has changed his story 3 times now…but like a good little partisan lemming, you continue to hold the party line…

  12. 14


    Finally they grow a bit of spine:

    House Democrats emerged from a White House meeting with President Obama confident that the GOP Medicare plan has Republicans on the ropes and more determined than ever to ensure that tax increases on the wealthiest Americans are included in any long-term debt-reduction package.

    Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) said the meeting was “very productive” and a “great exchange of ideas.”


  13. 15

    Roger Rabbitg spews:

    “Mitt Romney is running on his business experience. For some reason.”

    Republicans still don’t get that government isn’t a business and can’t be run like one. For some reason.

  14. 17

    Roger Rabbitg spews:

    @12 Never heard of the guy, don’t care what his story is, has nothing to do with anything important. My guess is you harp on it because you’re on the wrong side of every issue that matters.

  15. 18

    Jethro Troll spews:


    so whats it like to constantly guess at shit and then end up being wrong?

    im sure you are used to it by now.

  16. 19

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @8 But it’s legal therefore moral. Whereas all the workers who lost their jobs are “lazy” and “immoral” because they’re unemployed.

  17. 21

    Michael spews:

    I caught a clip of Palin on the tee-vee tonight. The fact that her comment didn’t even make sense didn’t stop the tee-vee people from commenting that it spelled trouble for Mittens. I think newscasters and talking heads are all on drugs. They’ve got to be on drugs or something.

  18. 22

    Puddybud, identifying northwest liberals who elected an underexperienced man to the presidency weighed down by an oversized ego spews:

    Credibility can be a bitch, when you don’t have any

    Oh my. Such barbs. Except WeinerVille has none. His GoldLine attack fell flat. Now his “explanation” is falling flat. Keep trusting him Homer!

  19. 24

    Michael spews:


    Kramer tried to get an interview with the six-term New York Democrat and as a result had the cops called on her.

    Kramer walked in to Weiner’s office, announced herself as being from CBS 2 in New York City and said she’d like to see the congressman. Those few words created quite the stir. Doors slammed and people pretended she wasn’t there.

    Gawd, you’d think she was a union rep trying to talk to our governor or Lisa Brown or something.

  20. 25

    Puddybud, identifying northwest liberals who elected an underexperienced man to the presidency weighed down by an oversized ego spews:

    Yeah, now we see Obummer’s FCC was trying to ram through Net Neutrality. Thanks Judicial Watch for being on the case!

    Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton said the documents released by his organization suggest “nothing less than the Obama administration’s attempt to stage a government takeover of the Internet under the guise of Net Neutrality. So it should come as no surprise that Free Press, the hard-left organization with socialist ties, is improperly driving the so-called Net Neutrality agenda from inside the Obama administration.”

  21. 26


    I’ve got a response to the moron puddybitch:

    Steve (what a motherfucking asshole) King.
    Sarah (my fucking ego is bigger than Alaska) Palin…

    …and he’s bitching about Obama?

    Too fucking funny.

  22. 27

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Obama Draws Line In Sand

    President Obama told a meeting of congressional Democrats today that he won’t agree to extend the Bush tax cuts for the upper 2% again, no matter what the House Republicans “hold hostage.”

    Of course, I agree with the president — he’s absolutely right. Revenues have sunk to a post-WW2 low, as a percentage of GDP. Under those circumstances, you can’t make large reductions in the deficit with spending cuts alone, especially if you’re unwilling to touch defense. And those who make the most money and got the biggest tax cuts are the logical people to pay more.

    Needless to say, the Republicans have a hidden agenda. They hate entitlement programs and anything else that helps the middle class and poor. They want to eliminate or at least drastically pare back those programs. When they were in power they deliberately went on a wild spending spree to “drown government in the bathtub” (i.e., spend the government into bankruptcy) in order to make social programs unaffordable for future generations.

    And where are they going with all this? Cheap labor, of course. If you don’t have a pension, social security, medicare, or unemployment benefits you’ll have no choice but to work at whatever job you can get, under any working conditions employers wish to impose, for whatever wages they feel like paying. The purpose of all this is to make us desperately dependent on them for jobs — so they can dictate all the terms of employment. It’s all about CHEAP LABOR CONSERVATIVEStrying to force people to work for low wages.

  23. 29

    proud leftist spews:

    It’s tough to be a wingnut nowadays. Don’t you think we should extend them some empathy?

  24. 32

    Puddybud, identifying northwest liberals who elected an underexperienced man to the presidency weighed down by an oversized ego spews:

    It’s tough to be a wingnut nowadays.

    Really? Look at how your party is now the party of no! That Porkulus bill really worked well. That Stimulus bill really worked well. Spending us out of a recession caused by Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid and Charles Rangel really helped us didn’t it.

    Remember the country was rolling along until

    Pelosi decided Big Oil was the enemy. Gas prices went to $3.45 two months after she became sleazer of de house.

    Pelosi and Rangel started spending US Tax money like drunken sailors

    Bwaney Frank interfered with anything on Fannie and Freddie. Now we know why. His lover worked there.

    The preznits’ academic economic advisors tried their academic theories on the US economy. EPIC FAYLE so they go back to teaching economic lies at universities.

    The hits just keep coming.

    Thank you DUMMOCRAPTS for making the US a third world toilet.

  25. 33

    rhp6033 spews:

    # 31: Speculations was that he was upset about a divorce. I’ve seen quite a few of these types of fellows over the years – their wives leave them for very good reason, and the guys insist that everything was fine until the wife’s friend/parents/sister/co-worker/lawyer turned her against him. They figure if they can just convince a judge to “talk some sense” into the wife, and order the friend/parents/sibling/co-worker/lawyers to stay away from her, she would realize how good she had it with him and return to him. When that doesn’t happen, they go psycho (if they weren’t already).

    But it’s nice to know that under the new Tea Party legislation in Arizona, these guys can carry concealed weapons just about anywhere.

  26. 34



    Some kind of alternate reality the puddybitch lives in.

    Does he know that before the Civil Rights Act of 1964 people who look like him were subject to pretty much any kind of instituional abuse any entity wanted to inflict on them? This shithead reallyreallyreally REALLLLLLLYYYYYYY wants to repeal the 20th century.

    Dumb ass punk.

  27. 35


    Allen West Comfortable With Letting America Default |

    Tea Party Rep. Allen West (R-FL) is unphased by the prospect that the U.S. might default on its debt for the first time in history later this summer, even though experts agree the effects would be catastrophic for the American and global economies. Speaking with reporters at the Faith and Freedom Conference in Washington, D.C. this morning, West referenced a discredited assertion by financier Stanley Druckenmiller in the Wall Street Journal to claim that a short-term default would be a reasonable policy alternative:

    Another idiot heard from.

  28. 36


    June 03, 2011 07:00 AM
    Wonder Why Anthony Weiner Was Attacked? Wingnuts Needed A Diversion From His Clarence Thomas Recusal Campaign

    By Susie Madrak

    ‘Weiner thought he was going to make us do what?’
    Rep. Anthony Weiner has been working since February to hold Clarence Thomas accountable for hiding his wife’s income to avoid the appearance of a conflict, and his campaign was finally getting some traction. So what do the wingnuts do? They quickly create a diversion:

    I WAS wondering actually…

  29. 37

    Libertarian spews:

    Since our currency is not backed by gold or any other precious metal, why don’t we sell our gold (in an orderly manner) to cover the increase proposed for the debt ceiling? That’s what ordinary folks do when they can’t cover their debt – they sell assets to provide the liquidity to pay off their debts. And, hopefully, they learn a lesson that debt is just like a dangerous drug that must be used with extreme caution!

    Selling gold to close the gap is the first step in solving the problem of too much debt. We can’t run three or four wars on a credit card. If we have to sell assets to get ourselves out of this mess, maybe the idiots in Washington, DC will reallize our days of being the world’s cop are over. We simply can’t afford to provide military security to wealthy European and Asian nations, and we are invovled in a quagmires in Afghanistan and Iraq.

    We need a return to military isolationism. Just because there’s a military conflict somewhere in the world does not necessarily mean that we should participate. I believe in trading with other nations, but I don’t think our role is to also be their providers of military security, too.

  30. 38

    Libertarian spews:

    This thing with the Congressman Wiener will be a joke around the coffee shop for a few days, but it will be forgotten by the end of the month. It’s irrelevant to anything important.

  31. 39

    LD spews:

    Why don’t all you Libs go to, or some other financial site, and look at what the economy is doing. Do any of you have a dime in the bank trying to earn anything?

    It is tanking and tanking fast, and it couldn’t be doing so any more appropriately than at the start of an election time.

  32. 40

    MikeBoyScout spews:

    @39 LD spewed:

    Do any of you have a dime in the bank trying to earn anything?

    How the hell would one earn anything with a deposit at a bank, numbnutz?

    If you had $100,000 deposited in a 1 year CD earning 0.40%, how much would you earn in 12 months?
    And how many hours at minimum wage would it take to earn the same amount?

    On the other hand, had you invested that same $100,000 in the S&P 500 on January 3, 2011 and sold it on June 3, 2011, how much money would you have earned in 6 months?

    LD, you clearly don’t possess the intelligence to manage your bus fare.

  33. 41

    rhp6033 spews:

    Puddy @ 25: Only a wingnut like Puddy would think that net neutrality amounts to a government takeover of the internet, and he’s willing to follow any right-wing website which tries to sell him on that premise. Apparantly he doesn’t stop to think that the corporations who would benefit from a non-neutral internet are the media conglomerates which could THEN control what we could see on the internet – and nobody could do a thing about it at that point in the game. Such media conglomerates would include Comcast and other large telecommunications providers – with the current rate of mergers and acquisitions, the number of such corporations providing bandwith would probably be three or fewer.

    Of course, Murdoch’s News Corp & his subsidiary, Fox News, might well be among that group by then, so maybe that’s why he’s so opposed to net neutrality.