– These people aren’t advocating for “life.” They are advocating a political strategy that stigmatizes a legal medical procedure in order to punish those they see as sexually transgressive with either death or the financial instability that follows from a lack of reproductive choice. [h/t]
– The gun violence problem is in Seattle. The solution is in Olympia. Maybe, but let’s not ignore what Seattle can do and let’s also not ignore the gun violence in the rest of the state.
– Lord knows I’m a terrible speller. But Amercia?
– I found this piece on dead pigeons quite fascinating, but note there were some graphic videos/pictures.
– Sometimes I listen to Mariners games on the other team’s feed (you get a different assessment than from the Seattle announcers). Early this season, when they were playing the A’s, the radio guy said that there was another event at the same time as the game the following day, so everybody take public transportation. It wasn’t a wishy-washy you might want to consider type of thing. I don’t know if we need a system as comprehensive as BART before we can not be worried about getting stuck in traffic when we build sports stadiums.
WRT chart of the day – we would certainly have more money for schools and colleges if we weren’t spending so profligately on prisons.
But then, we might not incarcerate/disenfranchise/destroy large segments of the Black and Hispanic communities, and we might have an educated populace as well – noooooo, wouldn’t want that.
New York is proposing banning the sale of large sodas over 16 ounces to deal with obesity. That’s good. Peeps will just buy two of them and drink more.
Awww no love lost here. Seems DUMMOCRAPTS are cheapskates!
re 2: “Peeps will just buy two of them and drink more.”
The ‘peeps’ that you are referring to won’t have the money for two sodas — mainly because of the VooDoo economics foisted upon the U.S. by Republicans.
Hey headless the racist@4, blow away with your 71 other names!
I see mostly right wingers and their chain-email myths here:
http://www.politifact.com/trut.....ants-fire/
Politifact is not perfect by any means but on the whole very useful..
re 2: Are you implying that a public health rule in New York is the equivalent of what the satirically named ‘pro-lifers’ are doing?
Maybe it was the hundreds of reporters who flew to Alaska to look at Palin’s emails that make the GOP think that there’s bias, I dunno…….
http://dyn.politico.com/prints.....7BBCA92508
Oh, and GWB43’s transcripts were a really important indicator that he was stoooopid, until it turned out that his grades were better than Kerry’s. Small wonder that there was no interest in Obama’s transcripts by the press in 2008. They might have found something unhelpful to their candidate had they looked.
re 2: Do you think that morally outraged liberals will start bombing soft drink bottling factories?
Only the United Nations could top Obama awarding the Presidential Medal of Freedom to the self-avowed communist Dolores Huerta. The United Nations went lower with its decision to honor Zimbabwe murderer Robert Mugabe as an international tourism leader.
What?
@9 blow away racist!
re 5: No matter how many times your side brought up Chappaquiddick, Edward Kennedy never lost his Senate seat.
re 11: Your cries of ‘racist’ are far too frequent to carry any weight. You are like the female worker who takes a day off every week because of cramps.
Does your pussy hurt, Puddy?
@13,
No butt I bet your butt (man pussy) hurts!
From the Romney slipping thread… I wrote “ylb placed his Politifact link “claiming” Obummer was a wise spender”
What’s weird is Politifact claimed it.
ylb farts: Yawwwnnn.. That’s a bald faced lie.. Never claimed that at all..
Lie upon lie upon lie.. Another day in Puddybud’s delusional universe.
05/31/2012 at 8:53 am
Here are the posts…
1. YLB spews:
Let’s rephrase this a bit.. On whose watch has federal spending grown SLOWER than moron Dumbya, Papa Dumbya and Ronnie “consult the star charts” Raygun?? Hell, make it every Prez after Ike.
Yes, it leaves only OBAMA..
Obama has indeed presided over the slowest growth in spending of any president using raw dollars, and it was the second-slowest if you adjust for inflation. The math simultaneously backs up Nutting’s calculations and demolishes Romney’s contention. The only significant shortcoming of the graphic is that it fails to note that some of the restraint in spending was fueled by demands from congressional Republicans. On balance, we rate the claim Mostly True.
http://www.politifact.com/trut.....-lowest-s/
Is this a good thing?? Hell no! The people need taxing and spending. We have a backlog of creaky infrastructure. Spending much more on that could have lifted us out of this Depression by now. Of course it’s the Republican’s fault things are so crappy.
28. YLB spews:
Obama’s National Debt Impact
Tell it to politifact dumbass. Slowest increase in spending since Ike.
Debt is increasing because of the Bush Depression.
05/29/2012 at 9:40 pm
Thems his words everyone. So who’s lying again. And his crazed deranged debazed databaze failed him again!
I know back then she was still threatening to run for President..
If only she had followed through!
15 – You stepped in in now stupid..
Where do you see “wise spender” in any of my original comment?
Such an idiot.
Ahhh @17,
Nice deflection from the above truth in #15. Your words.
Never said you said it was wise spending.
Whatadickhead!
@ 16
If only she had followed through, The One would not be in the deep shit he currently is in.
If only Gerald Loughner had been a right-winger.
If only…..
Oh no this is Obummer’s recession. Can’t blame this on Bush!
But this was Reuters cheering it just 4 weeks ago – Yep!
re 13: “Does your pussy hurt, Puddy?”
re 14: “No butt I bet your butt (man pussy) hurts!”
Well, this is an open thread,so I think it noteworthy that Puddy has finally admitted that he has a pussy.
“Never said you said it was wise spending.”
Oh so you have an out by putting “claiming” in scare quotes?
Bullshit.. You’re doing what you always do: LYING!
Such is the behavior of a pathological LIAR!
Darryl’s analysis says no.
By the way I challenge you or Puddybud to find anyone who supports Obama in these comment threads that has ever referred to President Obama as “The One”..
You’re so obnoxious Bob.
#54 in the long line of feckless attacks with the failed databaze.
Scare quotes? is that what they are called now? Keep trying cuz I keep pulling your nose ring chain. Right on time with another entry in your crazed deranged debazed databaze.
Thanks for playing beta boi!
headless@21,
Making claims about pussy? You are one strange racist.
24 – Typical – can’t handle the truth.
His reading of Ayn Rand put him on the short list to be a Paul Ryan staffer.
Just kidding..
@ 23
I think ‘The One’ is attributed to Oprah. Although the capitalized letters likely were not intended by her.
Funny thing…..she seems not to be supporting him this year. My, how things change.
Speaking of change, anyone want to talk about Artur Davis?
You posted it moron. That’s the truth!
Will Sean Penn attend the funeral if this is true? Will HA peeps go?
29 – You’re lying again. I never “claimed” that Obama was a “wise spender”.. Never said those two words. I “claimed” something completely different and I even disapproved of it.
It’s obvious to anyone who can read.. That doesn’t include you of course.
And placed the blame where it belongs – on the degenerate right wing Republicans like the Paul Randroid Ryans, the crazy Michelle Bachmanns and the Steve Kings and their bat shit insane cheerleaders like you.
Actor Jimmy Stewart was a conservative and a male cheerleader — just like George W Bush and now Mitt Romney.
Can you guess the one physical trait that each had in common with the other?
Give up?
Each had nipples the size of pie tins — which caused them a great deal of grief as teenagers — but which each overcame with the extroverted acrivity of cheering the boys on in their athletic activities.
@32
Creepy beyond words.
So? I still don’t see any reference to anyone around here calling Obama that or “The Messiah” or any other bullshit name that I only see being used by one type around here – a right wing troll.
Oh so she’s throwing the lever for Mitt? Huh.. I guess Oprah and Anne have bonded over dressage. Stranger things have happened I guess.
I had to look Artur Davis up. A black man who has become a republican. So? So is Herman “If you are poor, blame yourself” Cain. I don’t yet see a “Whites Only” rule on being republican.
Artur Davis, conservative democrat, lost in a primary to a Progressive Democrat. Imagine that. So he switched to being openly republican.
@32. Yeah. that was disturbing.
For the last time ya idiot… I never said U SAID that.
U R a broken record.
Said by different national Obummer jockstraps.
U R an
ASSholeArschloch!@ 35
A little more than that. He seconded Obama’s nomination at the 2008 DNC convention. He was a regional co-chair of the DCCC.
He could be this election season’s Zell Miller. You remember Zell Miller, don’t you? While the DNC put up Al Sharpton and a 12-year old girl saying Dick Cheney needed a ‘time out’ at their convention, the GOP put out a seasoned Democrat who alleged that Kerry would defend our nation with spitballs.
@16 Think of how much more of a freak show the GOP debates would have been with both Tweedle Sarah and Tweedle Michelle…
Oh I get it now.. You said I “claimed” it.
Guess what.. I never “claimed” it either..
What a useless liar!
Ahhh yes that was a P R I C E L E S S Hilarious Moment! Then Kerry went hunting.
Funny!
@14 You claiming some sort of authoritative knowledge of such things, Puddy?
So? Anyone who supports Obama in these threads say that?
Only ones who say that in these comment threads are idiots like you. Prove me wrong.
Crazy and crazier.. Only thing better would be a national ticket with those two.
OH PRICELESS!
This mofo is a loser.
Did I write ylb “claiming”?
Nope he’s a dope.
Wait for it… He’ll think of something stupid again!
@ 45
C’mon, Obama himself suggested that his ascendency to the presidency would affect the elevation of the oceans. Remember that?
If he considers himself to be some sort of a deity, can you blame us if we mock him as messianic?
Really, if you guys would learn to mock him, as you seem to have no trouble doing with any GOP politician, you would be far, far better off.
In this thread, Puddy claimed that he had a pussy.
That’s off color but this is creepy beyond words:
http://horsesass.org/?p=26660#comment-997522
Hint: it’s from a creepy, racist right wing hater.
re 47: “Really, if you guys would learn to mock him, as you seem to have no trouble doing with any GOP politician, you would be far, far better off.”
Link please!!
@50
Search HA for various iterations of Rmoney, R-money, Mittens, etc.
Search HA, DU, dKos, Thinkprogress for various iterations of Bushitler, Darth Cheney, etc.
C’mon. Did you really think I would give you examples? What’s next? You want me to prove water is wet?
Politifact never “claimed” it either.
Keep on lying dumbass! You’re dedicated to it.
@ 49
Geez, YLB, is there any reference to something anal or otherwise scatologic that you HAVEN’T saved for future use?
Greek much?
Remember when the left loved to drown out those on the right? Wisconsin, last year, is the best recent example of this behavior I can come up with.
Seems the right took some notes.
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.....;seid=auto
Romney outside Solyndra.
https://twitter.com/EricFehrn/status/208249800326529024/photo/1
That’s gotta hurt.
Then why did you write
Wait for it… More stupidity forthcoming…
Nope. I voted for him so he’d do something about climate change.. And he started but Congress still isn’t ready and will never be ready until there’s a catastrophic crisis as if the weather in TX wasn’t bad enough.
I see no evidence of that.. I see plenty of evidence of delusional perceptions by right wingers that are driven by loathing of a politician from a big city rising to the White House.
Oh Bob. Bush let down scores of social and even economic conservatives and we never heard anything like mockery. They just stayed home rather than break the 11th commandment.
We’d be better off with sane politicians and they’re not coming from the Republicans.
I’m voting for Obama for the Supreme Court justices. Kagan and Sotomayor were sane choices. Alito and Roberts not so much. I can only imagine Mitt checking in with ALEC or the Chamber for who he’d put up.
Obummer can’t stop blaming Bush even when the Bush portrait was unveiled today!
Because they said that or considered it mostly true. They said only Ike had slower growth in spending than Obama.
They NEVER “claimed” Obama was a “wise spender”.
Care to keep lying some more?
Ylbigot getting owned….lol
@ 57
When he accepted the nomination, Obama uttered this:
this was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal
Doesn’t sound like the accomplishment of a mere mortal to me.
Of course, we all could have just waited a couple of years without doing anything at all and it would be clear the the oceans weren’t rising any more than they had in the past. But that’s a different story.
Bob asks: If he considers himself to be some sort of a deity, can you blame us if we mock him as messianic?
ylb farts: I see no evidence of that.. Really moronic ylb? Here is the most recent edition!
This crazed deranged debazed databaze ylb moron is mental!
@59
More useless turds needing flushing.
U R a flashlight with dead batteries.
Pretty sickening huh?
And the worst of it like you see in that thread is not coming from the left Bob.
It’s here in the comments threads for anyone who cares to look. All I’ve done is just made it easier to pinpoint than the typical google search for my purposes.
Something that’s been lost on Puddybud for years..
So now DUMMOCRAPTS are on record supporting selective baby abortions! All because of Planned Parenthood suggesting aborting a unborn female baby!
Where are the NAGS?
I see pussybutt and bob are still unemployed as of this morning.
62 – Puddybud is so stupid he confuses Obama with Chris Matthews…
DOMA Struck Down
I just got up — rabbits are nocturnal, and sleep during the day — so I haven’t read this entire thread (actually, I haven’t read any of it) so I don’t know if anyone has already posted about this.
The First Circuit Court of Appeals struck down the Defense of Marriage Act as unconstitutional, but enforcement of its ruling will be held in abeyance until SCOTUS decides the issue.
DOMA had already been ruled unconstitutional by two separate federal district courts, but this is the first federal appeals court to address the issue, as far as I know off the top of my head.
http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_n.....ional?lite
Yes bob,
The moron@64 tries to wield it as a hammer. Unfortunately his side and some of his “comments” are precious too.
Google For the Clueless site:horsesass.org
That’s his persona he doesn’t want you to know about. Then he used many others.
LMAO!! Well at least it’s something of an improvement over this..
Bob, by the way this is the scatological troll I linked to earlier.
He’s a racist to boot.
Nope. Working from home today. Worked on-line in other time zones until almost midnight last night.
Sucks to be the DUMB Wabbit.
The Boston Globe reported today that Harvard recruiters didn’t know Elizabeth Warren is part Native American when they hired her for the school’s faculty.
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com.....tatus?lite
Notice the crazed deranged one skips right by #62! Facts explode useless pink-haired trolls.
61 – Lofty rhetoric Bob. Bush in his second inaugural said he’d end “tyranny” after Guantanamo, Abu Ghraib and torture in various places for “extraordinary rendition” purposes.
Or something like that anyway..
@61 “we all could have just waited a couple of years without doing anything at all and it would be clear the the oceans weren’t rising any more than they had in the past”
bullshit
Poor ylbigot is bummed because his old lady won’t take it up the ass……well, at least with him she won’t…hehe….
Looks to be another day of epic posting by everyones favorite lazy bum…
73 – False… Addressed in 67..
Obama never “claimed” he was “the Messiah”.. That’s Chris Matthews hyperbole..
Yawwwwn.. NEXT!
See Bob… This moron isn’t calling himself a lefty..
But at one time claimed he’s voting for Obama..
But I set him straight..
One more for your side Bob. Glad to be of service.
Bob ask ylb to replay those North Pasadena comments.
Pavlov calls he won’t cuz he’s scared to!
Did any of my “personas” have lengthy conversations with one another like this idiot did?
Legend: Puddybud and “Mike Webb Sucks” are one and the same..
Here we go again… Such a delusional ass. I never made such comments..
Go ahead dumbass. Let’s see you quote them.
You set me straight? Lmfao..ya, right.
I see it makes you uncomfortable that I might vote for obama..why is that?
Look loser, your a failure, just accept it. Your life, the rabbits, revolves around this blog…truly pathetic indeed. To me, this blog is brief little comical distraction, to you its life itself…you rate your self worth by what happens here. Its another reason why you will never ever be a man or successful.
re 61: “this was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal”
Could he have been referring to the fact that he intended to be a better steward of the environment than Republicans had??????????????
Nah! He must havre been claiming to be God. Nothing gets past you bobberanne, does it?
Here’s the insane dumbass Puddybud having yet another circle jerk with himself.
http://horsesass.org/?p=2467#comment-639891
Yeah “Reckless” was another outed persona of the most insane troll ever to haunt these threads.
But watch out! The creepy racist hater I exposed above is making a strong challenge.
Wrong again ylb. hyperbole?
“It’s almost like the Messiah, you know? People really, really want change, and you feel it. You don’t just hear it — you feel something coming from him.” – Jan Young
There’s some on the Internet now that Jesus was a community organizer, Pontius Pilate was a governor. – Donna Brazile.
Obummer = Jesus; Pilate = Palin. Nuff SAID SUCKA!
Oh there are many more!
Bob, he has all my comments chronicled in that useless databaze of Goldy’s original thoughts. Yet, he forgets all he sez or is written by him.
KABLAMMMO!
Yes bob, here is ylb in action
29. Reckless spews:
#27: Last week I was Rob. This week I’m Puddybud? Who am I next week?
01/27/2007 at 8:55 pm
I know the shit you’ve posted here. If you hate the poor, like you do and can’t stand to see them get food stamps, nutrition assistance for their kids (WIC), school lunches, preschool, shabby public housing, EITC and the like..
You have only ONE choice – Romney who says he supports the Ryan plan which will cut all of that.
Don’t need to. Marvin Stamn already chronicled it.
See bob? Won’t even exonerate himself. Pavlov called it. Right on time!
zzzZZZzzz.. You’re not following stupid. Bob said Obama is claiming he himself is a deity..
Obama never called himself “the Messiah” and then you link to Chris Matthews or some other tv journo who says that..
TV journos say all kinds of stupid shit.. Just watch your beloved Faux News. They do that kind of crap every second of every day.
In other words you’re too scceeeeered to show Bob you’re a dumbass..
You made the charge.. Let’s see you back it up..
I’m linking to shit left and right..
You??? You’re just jerking yourself off.
Are you trying to deflect from the FACT that you circle jerked with your own sockpuppets?
re 91: He’s the King of the Cool Jerk….
To which you defecate here almost every day.. Hate, racism, name-calling, sexual degradation fantasies.. I’ve got literally thousands of your comments in my database.
Anything thoughtful that reflects well on you as a person.. Not a freaking chance.
Clueless arschloch ylb, unlike you I don’t need to replay myself over and over. 37 of those 54 attack links are repeats with 4 of them tri-peats. Oh the horror! For the clueless! BTW why didn’t you leave on November 10th 2006, since your work was done at 10:10AM? HAHAHAHAHAHA!
EPIC FAYLE! It’s chronicled on HA, you have it and that’s all everyone needs to know.
U R the only dumbASS here. Bob never used the Messiah here. U did!
DUMBASS!
Sweeeeeeeeeeetness and Light.
He quotes Donna Brazille saying stuff..
See comment 47 please..
What a dumbass!
That deserves an answer..
Here it is: I changed my mind. Glad I did.
I WILL BE HERE IN NOVEMBER. Count on it.
uh duh.. But Bob said Obama claimed he was a deity and you backed him up with that crap about “the Messiah”..
Obama never called himself that.. No HA lefty ever called him that..
Only dumbass right wingers like you bring that up here.
Bye..
EPIC FAYLE again dipshit.
A deity? So you are finally admitting Jesus, The Messiah, is a deity? Otherwise more EPIC FAYLE!
Chronological fail again…
You introduced The Messiah to this thread.
Stupid all the time it burns!
Ummm no I quoted Donna Brazile.
Butt U R still a moron!
@100,
I sometimes refer to Obama as “the Milk Chocolate Messiah” just to piss everyone off.
Did you know that “OBAMA” spelled backwards is “AMABO” which is the Latin verb that means “we love.” Also, saying “We love Obama” in Latin is a pallindrome: AMABO OBAMA.
Puddy’s for a better Amercia when it comes to spelling.
Pun racist one?
Google Amercia and Romney
John Edwards Verdict: Not Guilty
After 9 days of jury deliberations, John Edwards was found innocent on one count, and the judge declared a mistrial on the remaining counts because the jury couldn’t reach a decision. Edwards may be completely off the hook if prosecutors decide not to retry him on those charges.
http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_n.....arges?lite
re 102: Don’t they play sporting events in the Pallindrome?
Just kidding, bro — we AMABO ya!
re 104: Just pointing out that no one’s perfetc.
So I heard some jackass on Medved’s show today advocating changing the constitutional amendment process to include majority vote national citizen initiatives. Hey, there’s a great idea, where has that been tried?
Oh, California where approved propositions become constitutional amendments nearly impossible to undo. Regardless of spending cuts vs. Taxation the underlying source of California’s problems stem from initiatives. Be it Prop. 13 that kneecapped the state’s ability to raise revenue in line with population growth to the hundreds of mandated constitutional funding levels for education, child health, anti-smoking, prison construction etc (see there’s
huge problems caused by both right and left leaning propositions) the percentage of the budget that doesn’t fall under constitutionally “untouchable” spending or tax increases has made the state in downturns impossible to balance.
So let’s bring that to a national stage. Morons. Morons everywhere.
I’m betting the development of that App was offshored.
But, checkmate@109, this guy is against the US Constitution as being outdated, a leftist position. He wants to get rid of the Electoral College, a Hillary Clinton position. Then he penned this on the Bush/Gore decision in The Nation
So with those leftist positions, he’s a moron? Do tell checkmate!!!!!
@111
You should really learn to read or get new glasses.
Czechsaaz already pointed out that…
Puddybud – new lows in trolling.
uptown,
You don’t get it. checkmate is a rabid libtard like you. I was validating he was calling the law professor a moron!
Swing and a miss by uptown. New lows in comprehension!
Sex selective abortions… the US and China are now on par!
Great job libtardos!
@112
There are legitimate considerations about removing the electoral college as an anachronistic institution. That wasn’t my point. Should I be surprised that you moved to a separate and irrelevant part of his thesis? (“Show me where I brought up the electoral college? You made that up. I never did. Toooooooo daaaaaaammmnnnn ffffffuuuuuunnnnnnyyyyyy.” Puddy, or words to that effect a couple hundred times on HA.)
He was advocating the possibility of making it easier to amend the constitution by simple majority popular vote at one point. I’m not terribly up in arms over it since it would take a 2/3rds constitutional ammendment to create his proposed remedy. But in the best mega-population observable case of such a proposal, that’s California if you aren’t keeping up, Pud, that’s a laughably idiotic proposition. A professor, or any serious person, would entertain that thought for a nanosecond before deciding, “What the eff, that can’t work. It would be chaos.”
Wow, if you are gay and conservative, the leftist pinhead heads explode…
and
Leftists are so compassionate and tolerant. NOT!
checkmate,
Where did I say anything you wrote in that post was your point? Again YOU don’t get it either. This is a well known leftist law professor. He’s published in The Nation. All of those comments are his statements, made over the years. I gave you examples!
Great job conflating standard liberal nothingness into pixels except it’s an EPIC FAYLE. I am shocked you called him a moron!
Can you dig it?
Seems that puddy’s posts over the last few days have demonstrated an accelerating mania, an increasingly obnoxious and irrational writing style, a relentless flood of gibberish and accusation and insult.
I’ve come to the conclusion, repeatedly, that there’s no point in engaging him – though I have repeatedly succumbed to the temptation to do so when confronted by the outrageousness of his claims, the manifest ignorance and mean-spiritedness, the absolute insanity of a Young Earth Creationist, Muslim-hating, gay-hating Dominionist lecturing this otherwise fine group of citizens* about…anything.
That’s all. Don’t feed the trolls.
*Bob, Max, yd, Dave excluded.
@116 (Not directed to puddles, but to the community in general)
Notice how puddy uses the self-serving comments of self-identified Rmoney supporter to tar leftists as anti-gay.
Ho fucking hum.
Disingenuous, dishonest, thy name is puddles.
Doesn’t Jesus cry when Christianists lie like that?
Bulletin:
A certain creepy, racist, dumbass asshat of a troll is having trouble right now getting it up for his mirror..
Hey dickhead, those were his words. I found them today scanning the nets. Scary he nails leftist gays and smacks them silly.
You Lib da moron, can’t stand anyone challenging you. And you call yourself a scientist? WTF? Never challenge my hypotheses. As you pass a mirror and look yourself in the eyes “I am a legend in my own mind.”
Dr. Dean Kenyon, Dr J Walter Vieth, Simon Conway Morris, Dr. A.E. Wilder-Smith, Dr. William Kane, Lanny and Marilyn Johnson, Dr. David Catchpoole, Emeritus Professor Tyndale John Rendle-Short, Dr. Gary Parker, Dr. D. Russell Humphreys, Dr. Alan Galbraith, Dr. Donald Batten, Dr. Robert V. Gentry, and others who claimed the evolutionist scientific theory was right, now say there is no evidence for evolution. Why? Oh no Lib da moron will denigrate them. Head explodes.
Muslim hating? Some of my BEST friends around the world are Muslim. I hate al-qaeda types, you love them.
Gay-hating? I love the gays. It’s the gay act God abhors. Found in the Pentateuch – Leviticus! remember Jesus said “I and My Father are One”!
You judge anyone who isn’t a like thinking robot. You denigrate anyone who DARES to take you on. And you are a scientist? God help the world with narrow minded pinheads such as you.
The only disingenuous mofo is you!
Ahhh yes the arschloch dopey ylb express appears RIGHT ON TIME with feckless attacks 55, 56, & 57>
Thanks for playing. I’ll be pulling your chain in a little while again!
Let’s review what Richard Grenell said
Emphasis Puddy.
As all can see, Lib da moron can’t read! Lib da moron can’t comprehend! Lib da moron is not intelligent!
checkmate farted:
Ask the freakazoid HA arschloch ylb and he’ll give your the real number! So are you a man? Step up to the plate and ask him.
Got marbuls? Can you dig it? Doubt it!
Buh-boomerang-rang-rang:
http://www.politico.com/news/s.....Page2.html
Thanks, Wisconsin unions!
If ONLY Benton Harbor’s unions were as wise:
Under the deal, automatic pension increases would be suspended for a decade, future pensions would be capped and the most generous pension plans would be eliminated. The deal would also move retired city workers ages 65 and older into Medicare.
The changes are expected to help the city save $18.5 million next fiscal year….
http://legalinsurrection.com/2.....ankruptcy/
After Benton Harbor, Wisconsin, and now Providence, you’ll see more and more public unions recognizing what they have to lose and that the taxpayer is fed up with the status quo.
’bout time.
Is there any wonder that a hell-storm of leading LGBT and feminists pushed back at a statement like that? As far as I can tell this guy has only victimized himself. Puddy needs to find some other poster-boy. Grenell just comes across as an arrogant dick casting about for somebody to blame for his own self-destruction.
@ 127
Can she at last have that ugly mole on her neck burned off? Pretty soon the hairs growing off of it will be her necklace.
LOL..I dont hate the poor, I just look down upon and have no respect for the lazy who bum off the rest of us(like you).
I have not posted anything between 12:30pm and now…and yet YLBigot feels the need to post stuff concerning me out of the blue.
LOL>..can you say “obsessed”
Please YLBigot, keep your mancrush on Johnny boy Edwards, and not on me….its kinda creepy.
I wonder if I need to get the police involved.
Not my poster boy. Just another example of if you are a gay conservative you are vilified.
I wonder if YLBigot realizes, that while he searches his Datubayze and gets constantly flustered, that I am laughing my ass off the whole time, every fucking day.
he’s my little marionette
My words:
Puddy’s “retort”
Um…uh, yes they were. That was my point, essentially that he, and you by using his words, have no credibility.
Puddy reminds me of White Goodman saying, “touche”.
Which reminds me of Inigo Montoya, “I do not think that word means what you think it means.”
That was today’s edition of “Words Puddy Doesn’t Understand”
Hypocrisy, thy names are William Jefferson:
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/po.....ro-recall/
Puddy clearly doesn’t understand parody.
Bigot, hiding behind Bible.
Hardly… The news that prompts my remark is in this thread and you know very well what it is.
Don’t break your mirror..
Federal spending in a nutshell:
20 percent defense
20 percent social security
21 percent medicare,medicaid,chip
13 percent programs for the poor
6 percent interest on the national debt
20 is all rest EPA,OSHA,State Dept
Paul Ryan wants to make 62 percent of his cuts from medicaid/chip and the other programs for the poor.
Do you agree with that?
Yep..
http://horsesass.org/?p=1774#comment-438078
@ 137
Not sure I agree with your breakdown in either case. Links to substantiate?
Dr. Dean Kenyon: Discovery Institute doyenne and “Intelligent Design” proponent. Good link on the equality of ‘creationism’ and ‘intelligent design’. As you might say, ’nuff said sucka.
Dr J Walter Vieth:
From a website promoting this crackpot:
Ergo, not a scientist.
Simon Conway Morris:
Not sure why you include him, other than that he seems to be a self-identified Christian. Does not seem to belong in your rogues’ gallery, as he gave this lecture:
Oops – looks like he fell off the deep end in 2009. Tragedy.
Dr. A.E. Wilder-Smith:
From Wikipedia:
CRRRAAAACKKKPPOTTTT!!
Dr. William Kane:
Some sort of engineer, likely not qualified to comment critically on evolution. Can’t really find anything about him, other that being on a list of supporters on the ‘answersingenesis.org’ site – sort of the mothership of crackpot Young Earth Creationists.
WWWWOOOOOOOOOO…
Lanny and Marilyn Johnson:
From a website lauding these two nuts:
“Trained in the sciences”, “God’s words can be trusted”, “avoid the pitfalls of evolution”
Puddles, you make my case for me.
*****
I’ve had enough – this is silly. You are a Young Earth Creationist, and that’s nuts. It’s a reflection of your complete lack of credibility and absent powers of critical thinking.
@ 140
Also not a scientist: Steve McIntyre
http://climateaudit.org/
And yet he’s got Michael Mann tied in knots, and he’s primarily responsible for the reason The Hockey Stick used in IPCC3 is such a fucking joke to the world now.
Just sayin’.
@111 Why not get rid of the Electoral College? It’s an undemocratic relic of the 18th century designed to preserve slavery. Why do we need it in 2012?
Called it @140.
Head explodes! Nuff SAID!
Its always funny when lab techs consider themselves scientists…
give someone an Bachelors Degree in Biology and all the sudden they are a “scientist”….LMFAO.
and anybody that disagrees with them, cant be considered a “scientists”, no matter what education they have.
ahh, its the progressive way…..
hows that hockey stick graph working for ya?
@143, 144
Tweedle-dee and Tweedle-dum are back.
Puddles opened up this discussion with…
He tried to inoculate his argument with the same sort of whining the Max makes @144 – in effect, “BOO HOO, you’re picking on my wingnuts!!!11!”
puddles threw that list of “scientists” as an attack on evolution. He, and Max, cannot complain when those crackpots are called out for what they are.
God you people are whiners.
I doubt you’ve known either.
If you fools (puddles, and Max, and whoever else wants to join them) want to deny science – go ahead, great, get your freak on – just don’t try to highjack the credibility of bona fide scientists with the “Intelligent Design” bullshit or the Bible Science bullshit, or whatever it’s called.
If you want to believe the universe is 6000 years old and Jeebus rode a dinosaur and Noah teleported penguins from Antarctica – DO IT – just be prepared for the rational people of the world pointing and laughing at you – which is what I’m doing around here every fucking day.
Heh heh heh. I actually do have a Bachelors Degree in Biology…
What did Lib da schmuck miss? Every one of those people he TRIED to tear apart was an EVOLUTIONIST first.
Hence crackpot, not a scientist, CRRRAAAACKKKPPOTTTT!!, WWWWOOOOOOOOOO are all definitions for evolutionists.
Well they are crackpots, non-scientists, and wwwooooo.
You made my day Lib da schmuck. Proved my point!
BTW to clear the air
Julius Walter Vieth, Zoology Chair at University of Western Cape, South Africa. – Evolutionist first, scientist
Arthur Ernest Wilder-Smith, Ph.D. (Physical Organic Chemistry), Dr. es Science (Chemotherapy), D. Sc.(Natural Sciences), P.D., F.R.S.C – Evolutionist first, scientist
Do I need to continue? Notice how Lib da schmuck uses other people to critique these people who all were EVOLUTIONISTS first?
Wife just came in from work. Time to take care of bidness!
Always hide behind the Creator of the Universe’s Word! Better than hiding behind some created being’s word.
BTW where did dumbass archloch ylb disappear after #99?
Of course no answer!
So unbelievably full of shit. I couldn’t give a shit what they believed in the past, nor what degree(s) they have. The is issue is their beliefs now, their position vis-a-vis evolution.
However, I think puddles is confused about the point he thinks he’s trying to make.
About one of these he writes…
However, this fool was writing books in the 1960s:
So…both stupid, and a fraud. These are the paragons of puddles worldview. Says a great deal.
http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index......38;id=3723
http://botc.tcf.org/2012/04/no.....micks.html
With all the talk last week about Bain Capitol, I remembered reading a story awhile back, actually a couple, in TRAINS Magazine about the fight between a hedge fund, and CSX Corporation. CSX barely survived the takeover, and has rebounded from past mistakes made years before the fight happened(by a CEO who later became Secretary of the Treasury in the Bush Administration). An editor with Railway Age magazine is suspect about hedge funds and railroads. It’s happening again, this time with Canadian Pacific(despite it’s name, they have holdings in the US, the remnants of the former Milwaukee Road, and the Delaware and Hudson), but this time it’s different and will give them the benefit of the doubt. The new fund, has a CEO waiting in the winds, so good at his job, his former employer cut his Golden Parachute(after turning Canadian National around, he deserved it, but he violated the non-compete clause).
http://www.railwayage.com/inde.....-want.html
Now can a big railroad shed some parts and stay profitable? They do it all the time, with unprofitable branch lines. It’s just the nature of the business that seems investors only interested in the short term make some in the railroad industry nervous. Railroads(even Amtrak to a small extent) own their right of way, which means to be able to stay competitive, it’s not just labor and fuel they have to worry about, but the track. Failure to invest in it’s upkeep, puts future profits at risk. Same with capacity constraints. BNSF, which is owned by Warren Buffet’s company, is in it for the long haul, and with no shareholders to report to, BNSF has completed an ambitious capacity expansion on their Chicago-LA mainline. Doubletracking everything in Kansas, Oklahoma, Texas, New Mexico, and Arizona, and Tripletracking portions like Cajon Pass in California. This actually had been planned in the nineties, but shareholders supposedly got nervous. After the Berkshire Hathaway takeover, not too many shareholders to be nervous.
That’s what he was as an evolutionist.
Thanks for playing…
No dumbASS arschloch ylb commentary to #99.
Crickets are chirping…
I guess it was too hard for him!
Let’s review Lib da schmuck
The actual statement
When someone is self-identified, they are saying something that can’t be proven. People knew he worked for Romney. He has his bona fides, proven by others.
Has anyone seen Lib da schmuck or his “credentials”? I have been to DL five times.
Now for something completely different…
Tiller the self-professed late-term aborted baby killer.
NY Times so it has to be true!
See ya leftists. Glad you think like the Chinese!
On this blog I placed his own words where he claimed to have performed 9000+ late term abortions. Ask the dumbASS clueless deranged debazed databaze arschloch ylb for evidence. Go on. Ask him. Grow some marbuls!
@157, elsewhere…
puddles, is English not your first language?
I didn’t know one had to be credentialed to spar with fools and revel with friends on this blog. Who knew?
From Salon…
Curt Schilling, WATB welfare-queen Tea Party schmuck:
I think these right-wingers are delusional.
Does anyone think that Mittens is going to rush from his photo-op in the Solyndra parking lot to Schilling’s company and bemoan government intervention and crony capitalism?
*crickets*
@ 161
Romney didn’t rush anywhere, Lib Sci. He used Solyndra as a background for a nice ad:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....r_embedded
See, apparently Romney has some private-world business experience. The husband of the woman who WON’T save Obama’s ass even called it a ‘sterling business career’:
http://hotair.com/archives/201.....er-mm-kay/
Ouch. Maybe time for Obama to stop pounding Romney for the sin of having been in business and time for Obama to start figuring out what he needs to do differently to make sure June and July don’t look as bad as May did:
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/.....25z;_ylv=3
Note that not only did May’s numbers suck, but the March and April numbers were revised substantially downward. Obama’s been running on empty for months, but even the fumes in the tank have been combusted and there’s absolutely nothing left.
Good thing Darryl’s poll says Obama still has a 99.9% chance of being re-elected, because otherwise your lyin’ eyes might have you believe he’s in some serious trouble here.
From the AP:
The economy is averaging just 73,000 jobs per month over the past two months _ roughly a third of jobs created per month in the first quarter.
And don’t forget that 2012 Q1 GDP was substantially lower than 2011 Q4 GDP.
What is the new definition of RECESSION?:
measure used by the National Bureau of Economic Research (NBER) states that “a recession is a significant decline in economic activity spread across the economy, lasting more than a few months, normally visible in real GDP, real income, employment, industrial production, and wholesale-retail sales.”
Just in time for the general election campaign.
Nice goin’, Dems. I’d prefer a better economy and a closer election than this will be if we’re in recession by mid-summer.
Questions that need to be asked, June 1 edition:
If what Scott Walker did was so awful for unions, why is his union support higher this year than it was in 2010?
http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/.....ewestfirst
Oh, bub, hitching your wagon to the Mittens star…
Why can’t Republicans not lie?
Mittens seems to embody this trait – he seems to be a pathological liar, like a dry drunk, someone that likes to, needs to, teeter on the edge, thrilled by the possibility of getting away with it, no concern for the ruin with which he flirts…
It’s one of the central reasons, I think, that as people better get to know Romney, the less they like him. He sets off peoples’ bullshit detectors, he is not genuine, he is not authentic. We’ve all had this experience – there are people we meet all the time that are just manifestly, obviously full of shit, and Romney is one of them.
Sucks to be your team.
Why can’t right-wingers understand plain English?
@ 165
Lemme get this straight: A candidate’s staff uses as a source a MSM article that turns out to be incorrect and that means such use constitutes a LIE?
Are you fully willing to apply the same criteria to Obama’s side? Methinks likely not.
Way to glean the importance out of a news item, Lib Sci. Obama’s team is responsible for a half-billion loss to the US taxpayer on this one small company alone and your bullet point is that what’s important is that Romney’s a liar.
@ 166
I see you are laboring to compare Solyndra to the Schilling debacle. Um, fair enough, although that compares Obama team’s incompetence to that of someone other than Mitt Romney. And since we’re all about comparisons:
http://www.pressherald.com/new.....05-25.html
I await Obama’s moves to can each and every member of his team who was supportive of Solyndra. How soon may we expect that Nobel Prize winner with all of his investment experience to step down?
No, not that Nobel Prize winner. The other one.
Smart Power. How’s that working out for you?
You’re the Commander-in-Chief of the most powerful country in the world. Your nation’s economy is sputtering, job creation essentially cut by two-thirds in only a couple of months. The stock market is plummeting 200 points after a disastrous jobs report.
Do you hunker down with your Council of Economic Advisers and hammer out some sort of program, some sort of solution to this growing problem?
Er, no:
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/po.....ago-visit/
You go out and grab some more buckaroos, six times in a single day, even though you have already attended more fundraisers than the previous four presidents combined.
Because that’s what your weary nation expects of you. Not solutions. Nice suits and platitudes, that’s what the people want.
Don’t forget to slam private equity while you’re taking money from private equity.
How much trouble are the unions in? It might not even be necessary to alter collective bargaining and pension and health care contributions. What if the municipalities just refused to continue collecting the unions’ dues for them?
Much of that decline came from Afscme Council 24, which represents Wisconsin state workers, whose membership plunged by two-thirds to 7,100 from 22,300 last year.
http://online.wsj.com/article/.....99718.html
No reason in the world that the municipality should be the dues collector for the unions. Let them send an annual statement to the membership, the same way AARP or the NRA does.
The bright side of the poor jobs report?
There might soon be new government jobs in the Treasury Department for people that will print more new money:
http://www.marketwatch.com/sto.....2012-06-01
Way to go, Obama. Your biggest demographic supporters, young adults, are going to be the ones hurt most by your incompetence.
White House spin, today:
The Obama administration is spinning this morning’s bad unemployment numbers with the following statement from Alan B. Krueger, the Chairman of the Council of Economic Advisers.
“Today we learned that the economy has added private sector jobs for 27 straight months, for a total of 4.3 million payroll jobs over that period. The economy is growing but it is not growing fast enough.” he writes, emphazing areas in the economy that continue to grow.
“As the Administration stresses every month, the monthly employment and unemployment figures can be volatile, and employment estimates can be subject to substantial revision,” he cautioned. “Therefore, it is important not to read too much into any one monthly report and it is helpful to consider each report in the context of other data that are becoming available.”
Reminds me of:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDAmPIq29ro
Are you being deliberately obtuse, or are you really this dense?
How about this – when will Mittens come out and correct the lie, I mean poorly-vetted misstatement, that he told about the Inspector General?
@ 172
I think that will be on the same day that Obama gives back the $1M that Bill Maher gave him.
How about that jobs report? 27 straight months of job creation. Pretty good, huh?
I guess Obama has been LYING to the public all along, then.
President Barack Obama is confiding to Democratic donors that he may have to revisit the health-care issue in a second term, a position at odds with his publicly expressed confidence that the U.S. Supreme Court will uphold the Affordable Care Act, according to three Democratic activists.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/.....rules.html
Breathtaking false equivalence. Disingenuous, dishonest. I think your side simply cannot compete without lying. It’s that simple.
Shoo, troll.
@ 175
You go ahead and think that, then. Make sure not to look for similar behavior by your own side.
@ 175
One thing you probably should admit is that it’s easier for Romney to compete with Obama when the only competent Democrat to hold the White House in the past generation tells the world that Romney’s qualified to hold the office and that his Bain work is a plus in that regard:
http://thehill.com/video/campa.....-bain-work
How not to look presidential, example 137:
You allow your chief political adviser to engage in a public slap fight with The Donald:
http://thehill.com/blogs/twitt.....ol-commen-
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.....hp?ref=fpa
Haha…”Bob’s” bff’s are fucked.
@ 180
It’s prudent to have an answer to the question “What’s your plan, GOP?” that will no doubt be asked by the left if the whole thing is struck down.
In an earlier thread this week, NTfF and I discussed this at length.
The GOP does not deny that there are good parts of the law. the problem is all of the horridness that the law contains.
Right now it’s looking like either the mandate will be struck and severed from the ACA, or the whole law goes down.
If it’s the former, then Obama has an expensive boondoggle and no way to pay for it.
If it’s the latter, then Obama staked his presidency on a single law that was so badly written it couldn’t survive review.
And you think it’s the GOP that’s fucked?
I swear, Rujax, your IQ drops almost by the day.
http://2012.talkingpointsmemo......fpnewsfeed
Bet “Bob” just looooves this shit…gotta love these assholes like “Bob”.
http://2012.talkingpointsmemo......policy.php
This is how sharp that fucking Romney crowd is. They’d run the country real good.
Really.
You’re crowd is fucked.
Citizen’s United is next:
http://www.usatoday.com/news/w.....55309770/1
If they can’t lie, cheat or steal…these assholes like “Bob”…they can’t win.
http://thinkprogress.org/progr.....ob-killer/
This realy explains it well:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/.....42249.html
Yeah “Bob”…Raw-Money’s a made guy.
Jon Voight and Scott Baio?????
No fucking shit! WOW!
@ 186
What matters most to Rujax?
Barack’s got a longer A-list than Mitt does!
Rujax knows more about Barack’s length and girth than Michelle does.
@ 185
If ONLY Bill Clinton had not so eloquently stated that Romney’s time at Bain was a positive.
Between HuffPo, TP, and the spoken words of Bill Clinton, I think I’ll go with Bill.
Maybe spend less time watching re-runs of Jackass and Friends and more time reading a newspaper and checking out a news feeder next time, Rujax.
2012 is not 2008, example number 173:
http://www.buzzfeed.com/mckayc.....r-the-righ
Has “Bob” been sniffing those Mormon underpants again?
Christ! what a fucking pervert…
Bain Capital takeovers = Mafia bustout.
Mitt Romney Vulture Capitalist = Tony Soprano Mafia Crime Boss
@ 191 GM is alive with, what, $50B in taxpayer money?
GM would have to be sold at $43.67/share for the government to break even. It’s at $22.41 today, Rujax.
Without the government bailout, Rujax, GM would still be alive and out of bankruptcy by now, and the taxpayer wouldn’t be holding the bag.
Do you know how to do anything besides cheer-lead, Rujax?
http://www.dailyfinance.com/20.....ans-early/
April 10th 2011.
I’m sure “Bob” will learn how to read someday.
@ 193
Rujax:
They paid off the loan with……..
Another loan.
Following GM’s announcement today that it has repaid the $5.8 billion in U.S. and Canadian loans months ahead of schedule, you may be wondering how exactly the automaker managed this. The answer is a $16.4 billion escrow account set up by the Obama administration during GM’s bankruptcy. Those funds are in exchange for the GM shares that make up part of the government’s stake in the company.
The Treasury Department had to figure out how much of a cushion the company would need after emerging from bankruptcy. The escrow account was set up when the government bought a 61% stake in the company, but there was a string attached: GM had to get the Treasury Department’s OK before spending the money.
Thus far, it used the fund to pay out $2.7 billion for the Delphi bankruptcy resolution and previous loan repayments. Rules required any money left in the account by June 30 to be used for loan repayment.
http://blogs.cars.com/kickingt.....early.html
Do you understand, Rujax? The government gave GM two pools of money. GM used one pool of funds GIVEN TO IT to pay off a loan.
I realize that in a world in which you believe that people should just give you stuff without any obligation your part, you might have trouble comprehending this.
It’s important, Rujax, for you to understand that GM paid back money given to it with money given to it. They didn’t do it based on anything they earned.
There’s a difference between a dollar in your pocket that someone gave to you and a dollar in your pocket that you actually earned. It’s not just a dollar.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/.....-of-a-jerk
@ 195
If I have to take ‘jerk’ to get ‘competent’, I’ll take ‘jerk.
Damn right this is not the McCain campaign. See @189.
Re: 194…
From “Bob”‘s OWN FUCKING CITE!!!
http://blogs.cars.com/kickingt.....early.html
Just how fucking STUPID is this “Bob” character?
I guess we’re finding out.
Add @197…
So maybe “Bob” doesn’t know what secured debt is…
…that would explain things.
Such a miserable dumbass. Why should I comment on some dumbassery he’s spouting at Bob?
@ 197
GM is given two pools of money by the government.
GM pours one pool of money into the hole it created when it used the other pool of money.
Rujax does a victory dance because the hole is filled.
This is Democratic thought, boiled down to its most simplistic terms.
I won’t even get into the special tax treatment given to GM by the IRS due to its pre-bankruptcy losses, which ends up further screwing the US taxpayer. Rujax is still moving his lips when he reads.
@ 193
Rujax:
Concentrate just on the headline:
Repaying Taxpayers With Their Own Cash
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05.....2gret.html
If you feel you are up to it, you can read more about the disservice you are doing to yourself if you continue to believe that GM has earned its way out of its troubles:
http://www.politifact.com/trut.....oans-full/
And, Rujax, when/if GM ever does to start to earn some real profits, it won’t have to pay taxes on the money for a long, long time:
http://online.wsj.com/article/.....03202.html
Rujax, every bit of that was funded by the US taxpayer, and what the taxpayer got in return is about 50% underwater from break-even.
There’s nothing, really, to be proud about. Had GM gone through a normal bankrupcy there would still be a GM. Unions wouldn’t be sitting as pretty and the bondholders would have done better, but GM would still be there.
Do you understand, now?
“Bob” is an ignorant ass…as we all know.
So “Bob” would destroy ANOTHER important domestic industry and throw hundreds of thousands of Americans out of work.
“Bob” is soooooooo smart.
But for a real “scholar” like “Bob” the BILLIONS of dollars of subsidies for petroleum companies are okee dokee. Gee…why should we subsidize an INSANELY profitable business? “Bob” must know…because nobody else does.
OH…and where was “Bob” and his ilk when the corrupt Cheney/Rumsfeld Administration “lost” NINE BILLION DOLLARS of American Taxpayer Money, money that “Bob” is sooooo protective of…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_kskdHCOiI
…things that make ya go, hmmmmmmm.
(wow…$12 Billion????…cooool! Geee that would have bailed out GM!!)
Go fuck yourself “Bob”…you are complete fucking idiot.
@ 202
Ooh, nice segue into a different topic.
So smooth, Rujax. No one even noticed.
You go, girl.
@ 203
Are Rujax and Steve the same entity? They’re starting to sound alike.
At the Barrett rally with Bill Clinton, a Walker supporter holding a sign and standing his ground gets arrested. In front of a shitload of reporters.
http://althouse.blogspot.com/2.....heyre.html
It’s almost like the cops want to make sure that Barrett not only loses, but looks awful in the process.
This month is not starting well if you’re a Democrat. Fortunately, I’m not.
I’d like the details. No news reports about the walker guy showing up in the search engines yet. You got a link to a legit news source?
From what little I can find, you are objecting to cops acting like cops? This from a republican?
Until I get more information, it seems to be a big deal only in your head.
@ 207, 208, 209
Yeah, that’s what I saw online as well. Waiting for video, as apparently there were a bazillion photogs there.
Another source, tweeted, said he was arrested for sticking his finger in the cop’s face during an exchange and that he was 30 feet from Clinton.
John McCormack@McCormackJohn Follow
@rosiegray Saw the arrest take place. Cop said it was because protester pointed his finger in cop’s face when cop told him to leave.
01 Jun 2012 ReplyRetweetFavorite
John McCormack@McCormackJohn Follow
@rosiegray Cop also said Willoughby’s sign was “too close to the President”… But Willoughby was 30 feet from Clinton.
http://www.buzzfeed.com/rosieg.....clinton-ra
from the story:
A police officer on the scene would not say why the man had been arrested.
and:
Willoughby wouldn’t give his name to BuzzFeed but said that he is a former union worker who was threatened and harrassed when he left his union.
There’s gotta be video.
Bob is a troll. Puddy is a troll. Max is a troll.
They are without principle, other than to shill for their wealthy masters.
They don’t care about jobs, they don’t care about a healthy economy, they deny the notion that we are a nation of equals or that we’re all in this together. They are only here to mainline the daily fascist talking points, to pick fights that they wage without honesty or without integrity.
They don’t care about the government losing money in GM or Solyndra – no, not really – they care about a Democratic administration being successful, and will fling any lie to achieve their end, sacrifice any ethic, fling any shit. Wasting money is actually a virtue for them, but it has to be a Republican doing it in the service of weakening government and steering money to their cronies. You know when a Republican screams “Cronism!” that they’re really pissed that it’s money they didn’t get their hands on.
There is not objective principle that they will adhere to when analyzing government action regardless of party. They will say anything because they cannot tell the truth. Oligarchy doesn’t sell so well when you pitch it on the merits. Therefore they are inherently dishonest, and it’s a complete waste of time to do anything but ridicule them.
Point and laugh.
About the guy at the Barrett rally, when you’re within 30 feet of the President, and you don’t follow a lawful request to move, and, moreover, you stick your finger in a cop’s face and argue, be prepared to be arrested.
If those are indeed the facts.
If bub is so incensed about this guy having his First Amendment right abridged, perhaps he’d like to comment on all the Bush rallies in which citizens were ejected or detained simply for having T-shirts that disagreed with Bush.
Here’s another, these people had the temerity to wear shirts emblazoned with the inflammatory, “Protect Our Civil Liberties“.
Or another – people chased of their own property – the National Archives, for wearing “Impeach Bush” shirts.
How about this Tea Party darling‘s private security non-union thugs detaining – kidnapping, I believe – a journalist?
What about FREEDOM!!!1111!!!! that you right-tards are always braying about?
Again, no principles.
Oops! Probably more a case of being kinda dim and poorly represented than anything.
@208
There aren’t any “law and order Republicans” anymore.
LMFAO….awwww, I sense much frustration from poor lab tech…so in a fit of misery, the lab tech lashes out…
owned.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06......html?_r=1
Bob reminds me of this conservative joke that has been told here before.
The conservative is bob. When good people stand up for themselves, he gets all outraged, so he can sucker punch them some more.
At the rally, the guy was apparently being a dick so he was asked to leave. Yet according to bob, the cops should not have done that. Apparently order and civility are not allowed in bob’s world for progressives.
217 – yeah, I love it when the trolls spew their hate and other degrading bullshit and when we complain about it they say we “have no sense of humor”.
Oh well, sure sucks to be them.
Still waiting for Bub to comment on all the events, minor sampling above, in which Republicans actually did infringe on free speech rights at public gatherings.
*crickets*
Not at all lashing out – merely a dispassionate description of contemptible people.
On the contrary, your incessant insults are a clear indication I’ve gotten in your head. Asshole.
lol…in your dreams, mary.
It’s really pretty obvious, Kimmy
Hey everybody – be sure to vote in ‘GOP Madness‘ over at the Great Orange Satan.
Up today – Mittster’s “Corporations are people, too” versus “Let him DIE!” at the GOP debate.
you must be munching on some tainted agar…
run along now…..your irrelevance to society has been confirmed.
@212
The incident with former US Senate Candidate Joe Miller, in my opinion, was deplorable. Since his unprecedented defeat, Miller has shown a willingness to compromise. He actually called for an investigation into a flawed civic election in Anchorage. One would think, and I would say it could go for both sides, when your guy gets elected or re-elected, you would take it and run.(Republican-leaning mayor Dan Sullivan was re-elected in the election I mentioned, and Miller ran in 2010 for Senate winning the GOP Primary but losing to Murkowski’s write-in campaign).
Before I saw the comment on this thread at 212, I was meaning to pass on this little article. Some news that does not make the news, but re-inforces the Railway Age editorial I posted earlier. BNSF investing in trackwork, I see these headlines a lot lately, this time for Montana. If only they would add a second track to the Hi-Line in North Dakota.(Bakkan oil production is creating a big traffic boom, for Railroads large and small, and even Amtrak is seeing an increase on the Empire Builder within North Dakota, especially at Minot and Williston. The trains, both eastbound 8/28(28 is the Portland section), and westbound 7/27 arrive at decent times in Western North Dakota, but Fargo and Grand Forks, it’s about 3AM, in both directions!
http://www.progressiverailroad.....211;31130#
There is video taken during the Clinton-Barrett rally of the guy who was arrested.
video taken before the arrest,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....r_embedded
the arrest,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v....._embedded#!
He claims to be a Marine and an ex-union firefighter who is afraid to give his name because union thugs are out to get him. Now, I’ll wait and see what comes from the arrest record, of course, but I couldn’t help but notice that my Wingnut-Bullshit-Detector app went into alarm mode with that one.
The article about the Anchorage Election challenge I mentioned earlier.
http://www.opednews.com/articl.....2-785.html
That must be very distracting when you come around here – this place is nasty with trolls – it must be going off all the time.
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BTW, notice how Max can’t let it go…
Fuck the emperor max-minidick(aka kaiser bun the first)…this is a LIBERAL/PROGRESSIVE blog and the emperor max-minidick(aka kaiser bun the first) is neither LIBERAL nor PROGRESSIVE.
He ought to be unceremoniously booted off the Island…along with “Boob” and the puddypussy.
Newt, on Mitt:
look into the mirror, lab tech.
you knew it wouldnt be long before the cellar-dweller rujaxoff showed up….our very own broom sweeping shop steward
@228 “That must be very distracting when you come around here”
Quite bothersome, actually. I have to run most of the troll comments through the Wingnut-Decoder app, and then run them through the Wingnut-Bullshit-Detector app. What I need is an app that both decodes and detects.
Creepy racist hater’s favorite..
And this is too amusing..
He finds hate, ignorance, racism and sexual degradation “comical”..
Sure sucks to be him.
@ 216
“Never let a crisis go to waste.”
I know I’ve heard that somewhere before……
@ 229
So, Rujax, you want people who disagree with you and who point out your obvious lack of command of the most basic facts of the day, any day, to be banned, so that you can continue to be an imbecile without fear of being called on it?
Really? You want to be able to spew consistently incredibly uninformed blather without consequence?
Not everyone wears the cheerleader uniform, Rujax. Some people like to scrimmage.
Good news for a change..
http://crooksandliars.com/kenn.....ctive-flor
When a law shuts down even the League of Women Voters from signing up people to vote, you know the right wing will do ANYTHING to further its degenerate agenda.
@ 230
GOP tried to use some of what HRC said about Obama during the ’08 general. How’d that work out for them?
Keep workin’ it.
and of course YLBigot is right behind rujaxoff..
@ 212
when you’re within 30 feet of the President, and you don’t follow a lawful request to move, and, moreover, you stick your finger in a cop’s face and argue, be prepared to be arrested.
When you’re sitting in front of a group of police officers trying to move arrested and handcuffed colleagues of yours to the vehicles so they can be taken to be booked, and your colleagues have the police surrounded, and you don’t follow a lawful request to move and, moreover, you shout “From Davis to Greece, Fuck the Police!!” while the cops are issuing you warnings that you will be pepper-sprayed, be prepared to be pepper-sprayed.
Whaddya think?
@ 217
Did you watch what went on in Madison last Spring? How did the Madison police handle the anti-Walker protesters who did things like shout down a 14 year old girl?
http://althouse.blogspot.com/2.....party.html
If that is to be tolerated, shouldn’t a single guy holding a sign similarly be tolerated?
Don’t get me wrong – I never claimed @ 206/210 the arrest shouldn’t have occurred. Circumstances do seem curious. I expressed surprise that Barrett would let it happen at a rally in which he has a deficit to overcome.
I’m just pointing out how tolerance of liberal protest by Madison cops seems to differ from how Barrett’s police force handled a single conservative protestor.
@ 212
It probably differs if they were private events on private property vs. a public forum such as a park rally. I won’t click on your links but if people protested in public spaces without interfering with the rights of others to hear the program, then I probably am in agreement with you.
If it is a private event, that’s different. You can heckle me from the back of the crowd if I’m speaking in a public park. You can’t do it if I’m speaking in my large, fenced back yard and you weren’t invited. Unless you’re on the other side of the fence, I suppose.
http://blogs.wsj.com/economics.....e-economy/
A must see TED talk:
http://www.upworthy.com/breaki.....e-it-?rc=p
Hannauer SINKS the myth of rich “job creators” with one sentence..
See it and guess which one it is.
@ 226
Thanks for posting the video.
Did you catch, at around :14 in the arrest video, the cop telling the protestor: “You’re going to get your ass kicked. Move!”
Imagine a Seattle cop telling that to a OWS protestor in Westlake Park, then arresting him, with that comment captured on video.
BTW in the one minute-plus prior to the actual arrest, NOTHING was said about the protestor’s proximity to President Clinton. Not one word I heard.
What planet are you living on?
Imagine them pepper spraying 80 year old ladies, which they actually did.
@242
Why the fuck bother – you might find something that undermines your whining about the Barrett event today.
The links went to stories about people who attended rallies, or attempted to enter public spaces like the National Archives, with shirts saying things like “Protect Our Civil Liberties“ or “Impeach Bush”. This was the Bush Administration in action – and you’re weaseling. Oh, and a story about a journalist who was detained by private non-union thugs in a way that usually constitutes kidnapping.
If civil liberties were really important to you, as opposed to trying to score cheap “union thug” points like you usually do, we’d hear a far different tune…
@ 246
Yes, they did. Apparently @ 212 if a cop tells you to do something and you don’t, you can get arrested. Why not pepper-sprayed?
An arrest deprives you of your liberty for a couple of hours or so. Pepper spray puts you out of commission for about an hour.
They have done far worse than that, which is why they’re the target of a DOJ investigation.
Again, this whining from you is all about trying to score “union thug” points – have you EVER commented on police brutality here? Have you ever protested for the free speech rights of someone you don’t agree with?
@ 247 Actually, right now I’m on an island, the DSL is sketchy, and HA isn’t loading very well. If I click on a link I might not get back.
Public safety unions were treated with kid gloves by Walker IIRC.
What “thugs” right?
Oh, I don’t know, because it’s a form of assualt, perhaps.
Why don’t we just Tazer everybody?
Typically ‘cute’, as I was specifically discussing, as I said, behavior within 30 feet of the President, not the way you generalized it.
God you’re disingenuous.
To your first question: Not that I can recall:
To your second question: Yes, I have. Flag-burning thing in college. First Amendment protection of the activity even though I wouldn’t mind kicking the shit out of assholes like this:
http://lefteyeimages.photoshel.....EgU.7hoWP0
Which one laughing in the background are you, Lib Sci?
You don’t know me, I’m not a one-trick pony, and I make you think. You make me think. It’s why you’re back interacting with me after blowing me off last week. Either before or after your silly despair woe-is-you line that I won’t let you forget any time soon.
Yeah. Well it looks like you’re now imagining Seattle cops doing things to OWS protestors a bit more physical than using harsh language.
Congrats.
Tazing can kill someone. To my knowledge, pepper spray hasn’t. Pepper spray is crowd control.
I highly recommend people watch as many Nick Hannauer interviews on youtube or whereever.
The guy is a real out of the box thinker.
HE’S A SUCCESSFUL CAPITALIST TOO!
Wow! Jeb Bush does something the insane Republican Klown posse in their debates could not:
Jeb Bush Says He Would Back Tax Increases To Cut Deficit
At a 10 to 1 spending cut to tax increase ratio!
WHAT A BREAKTHROUGH! Could the people please wake up and give this crazy party the hook?
oh, you mean that silly old broad who’s only purpose in life is to protest shit..ya her..lol
some washed up hippy who thinks its still 1968..
Dont know if I would have been so forgiving of that asshole bob….maybe that punk needs to go live in North Korea or Syria for a while and then we will see if he shits on the flag.
I can bet you one thing for sure: he is an OWSer asking for “free stuff” and votes D.
Liquor Privatization, Day 1
Today is the first day you can buy liquor in grocery stores. I stopped by my neighborhood QFC to see how this is working out.
Bottom line: Same prices, smaller selection.
I couldn’t get my favorite French brandy at all. The store manager told me they didn’t get a shipment yet. Maybe two weeks, he said.
QFC is advertising a 1.75-liter bottle of Jack Daniels for $33.99 — but that doesn’t include the 20.5% state liquor tax or the “per liter charge” (whatever that is; I suspect it’s a store add-on) of $3.75/liter. Add those in, and that bottle rings up at $47.52. The now-closed state liquor store in my neighborhood used to sell it for $47.50.
I said this before the election, but now I have proof: Any voter who thought privatizing liquor sales would result in lower prices had his head up his ass.
Then there’s the matter of QFC advertising that $33.99 price. Obviously, it’s highly misleading, if not downright false advertising, to tell the public you’ll sell them a 1.75-liter bottle of Jack Daniels for $33.99 and then ring it up for $47.52 at the register. I won’t mince words: That’s lying.
I asked the store manager whose idea that was. Corporate headquarters, he said. Why don’t they include the taxes and charges in the shelf price so customers know what they’re paying? They want to make it look cheaper, he said. Not smart, I said, the store is just pissing off its customers. The store manager said he’s been hearing a lot of complaints about that from customers today.
Somebody at QFC headquarters has his head up his ass.
Voters and grocery store pricing managers all have their heads up their asses. Is there anyone around here who doesn’t have his head up his ass? Well, me, for one — I walked out of the store with a couple of discounted items in my shopping bag … but no liquor. I’m not buying bullshit today.
when are you going to do your part and volunteer or vote to pay more taxes out of your wallet?
crickets…..
@260
what do you expect when there is a 40% tax from the state?
@261 No. I’m sick and tired of paying for your goddamned wars and your goddamned military weapons. And I’m even more sick of assholes like you borrowing from China, our enemy, to pay for that shit and give yourselves tax breaks. Fuck you and all your commie-hugging buddies!
It’s like this: If you’re not gonna pay taxes for food stamps and unemployment benefits, then I’m not gonna pay taxes for wars and weapons. That’s just the way it is.
We’ve got to stop pussyfooting around with these rightwing sons of whores and start treating them like they treat us. The Golden Rule applies here: One shit sandwich deserves another.
They dont do that for any other products? why should booze be different? duh.
have fun explaining that to obama’s new, revamped IRS…
You know in another thread you said “the rules are the rules” and yet when the police break “the rules” and pepper spray someone that wasn’t doing anything wrong you don’t seem to have a problem with it. So I guess it’s not really “the rules are the rules” is it?
@266 bullshit
Lovely.
A grocery item with a shelf price of $2.99 rings up as $2.99. A bottle of pop with a shelf price of 99 cents rings up as $1.09.
A bottle of liquor with a shelf price of $33.99 ringing up as $47.52? That’s in a different league.
LOL..its your buddies borrowing from China, and then telling us that “its no big deal”(how many times have we heard that here at HA).
Sorry old man, they aint my wars – im just a guy paying his bills and supporting society’s lazy losers and dregs…you know, like your OWS friends…
and thanks for the offer to copulate with you, but I must decline. You arent my type….maybe you can track down Gman and solicity him – you can probably find him on craigs list offering his services.
@268 Police are getting aggressive about threatening and arresting people simply for filming them making arrests and pepper spraying people — which is not only a legal activity, but a constitutionally protected one. When the police do this, they should be — and are getting — sued. The Boston police department has already had to pay a $170,000 judgment for this. That doesn’t go far enough. Cops who do this should be fired and criminally prosecuted. That seems to be the only thing that makes them understand we citizens have constitutional rights, and those rights are more than a scrap of paper for cops to stomp on at their discretion.
Awwwwww, so you dont like the “different league”?? well then go complain to Olympia you fucking idiot – YOUR democrats put the tax on.
store items never(almost never) show the tax in the price. If you have a problem with how much the tax is, how the fuck is that the store’s fault?
god damned fucking idiot..go take a toke off your oxygen tank.
@267 After you …
@267 Trust me, I don’t have a problem with the idea of being your cellmate …
Well I’m glad you know your place finally.
speak for yourself….I would rather take a .45 to the head.
Old-Man ass does not appeal to me in the slightest.
@272 “its your buddies borrowing from China … sorry old man, they aint my wars … im just a guy paying his bills and supporting society’s lazy losers and dregs”
bullshit
If you voted Republican, you own those wars.
Really? the congressional record shows differently.
and I voted republican, democrat, one libertarian, and one independent during the last election.
kinda fucks up your whole world view, dont it.
probably supporting you too….thats cool, my family has big shoulders
Of course not, Michael. Like I said above, no principles, only attack.
if thats the best you two can come up with, then I would just throw in the towel if I was you.
better yet, go smoke a bowl, get arrested, and let me know how it works out for you in prison.
Thats a funny statement, coming from someone who does nothing but attack religion.
oh, but I forgot, you are progressive and enlightened…LMFAO
283
You know, if he just cut the crap and said he enjoyed seeing DFH’s getting pepper-sprayed, I’d be fine with that. It’s obviously not about everyone following the rules, it’s about liking people he doesn’t like facing violence. So why not just say it?
I’m still stunned by the recent shooting tragedy. The last victim who was shot and killed near Virginia Mason was someone my Dear Ms. Wingnut and I have known for many years.
Cowardice
Really? I’m so sorry. I was shocked to learn that she was the mom of one of my older son’s classmates.
HA! I told you I was in your head! HAHAHA
And…my pin-headed friend, I don’t attack religion per se – oh, no. Let me explain, and I’ll try to use small words so you might understand.
As I have said many times on this blog, if you have a faith, a religion, that brings you to the Golden Rule, that leads you to teach peace, that inspires you to make the world a better place, that advances what I understand to be Jesus’ supreme law – LOVE, then EXCELLENT!! I’m right there with you, good on you, keep it up, Praise Whomever (Steve Schwartz even!)
No no no – what I attack is nasty hatred hiding behind a Bible, affirmative idiocy like Creationism, the relentless drive to undermine the integrity of what we teach our children with the poison of superstition. I will rail day and night about bigotry and hatred and aggressive stupidity and Republicanism hiding behind ostentatious religiocity.
Dickhead.
So sorry to hear that Steve…condolences all around.
@277 To a logical mind (no, not yours), taking a comment out of context renders your reply nonsensical.
@291 A result of a nut with a gun. When will this madness of letting everyone have guns stop?
@281 “kinda fucks up your whole world view, dont it”
nope, it doesn’t, not even a teeny-weeny bit
Voting for Dubya is analogous to being pregnant, you either did or you didn’t, and if you did you’re one of the voters responsible for his wars and torture.
They’re At It Again …
Republicans know they can’t win a fair election, so they spend millions of dollars and thousands of man-hours trying to throw up obstacles to voting.
http://nbcpolitics.msnbc.msn.c.....orado?lite
Roger Rabbit Commentary: I’m not saying non-citizens should be allowed to vote; they shouldn’t. But innocent people shouldn’t go to jail (or be executed; see Rick Perry viz. Todd Cameron Willingham), either. Under our system of government, we believe it’s better to let an occasional guilty person go free than imprison (or, heaven forbid, put to death) innocent people.
This same reasoning should apply to voting: We’re a democracy, and excluding thousands of legitimate voters from the polls to keep a handful of illegitimate ones from voting is just too high a price to pay for a “perfect” election that won’t happen anyway. (Hell, election worker mistakes probably account for more ballot counting errors than illegal voting.)
Well, here’s an idea. Let political parties scrub voters lists all they want to. But require them to post a sufficient bond and pay every legal voter they scrub $10,000 in liquidated damages. If Republicans want to kick 50,000 voters off the rolls, they have to post $500,000,000 bond, and every legal voter they kick off the rolls gets to keep 10G of it.
Elizabeth Warren used to make money picking up foreclosed houses on the cheap:
http://www.bostonherald.com/ne.....1061135738
Let’s review, shall we?
1. She’s in the 1%.
2. She’s a liar.
3. She makes money off of the poor and unfortunate.
Which party is she in again?
@ 296
So, for every ACORN (or whatever ACORN has morphed into) false voter registration, let’s withdraw $10,000 from ACORN’s operating fund. If ACORN wants to register voters in areas in which they have filed obviously false registrations previously, they have to post a bond, from which all penalties will be drawn.
Well, here’s an idea just as idiotic as RR’s, anyway.
@298
You’re onto ACORN now? Breathtaking.
Today’s plunge of 275 Dow points in the stock market may serve as a catalyst for QE3. But I hope not.
The Federal Reserve was right to inject cash into the financial system in 2008. That’s because cash hoarding sucked trillions of dollars out of circulation, effectively shrinking the money supply, which could have triggered a deflationary “death spiral.” It’s like giving transfusions to an accident victim who has lost a lot of blood, so he doesn’t die.
But QE2 was a different story. There, the Fed was trying to stimulate the economy, with only marginal effectiveness (if that much). Instead of going into the economy, that money went into financial markets, artificially pushing up prices of commodities and stocks, which is one of the reasons you’re paying so much for food and gasoline now.
A QE3 likely would have no stimulus effect at all. It’ll just create more market distortions, especially in interest rates. The rates on long-term Treasuries already are at never-before-seen lows.
The theory behind quantitative easing is pushing down interest rates below market levels encourages borrowing, which in turn boosts spending, which stimulates hiring. But you get that stimulus only if banks lend, consumers borrow, and companies hire. With interest rates already artifically pushed to historic low, none of those things are happening. As Wikipedia points out,
“Quantitative easing … can fail if banks remain reluctant to lend money to small business and households in order to spur demand.”
They could have added, “or if consumers have no taste for borrowing and spending, even at the lower rates.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Q.....2C_and_QE3
An unemployed person with no income isn’t going to qualify for a mortgage or car loan, and a consumer struggling to “delever” won’t take on more debt, no matter how low interest rates go. What the economy needs is more jobs, not cheaper money.
The Fed’s policy of keeping interest lows low for a prolonged period doesn’t really help debtors, except those with variable interest rate loans, because for everyone else their rates are locked in by their loan contracts. And if they’re having trouble paying on those loans, they’re hardly going to take out more loans in order to take advantage of low lending rates.
On the other hand, keeping interest rates at or near zero is a gut punch to retirees and senior citizens who have to live on investment income. The decline in their income means they have to spend less, causing further economic contraction, and forcing them to liquidate savings because they can’t earn any income from their savings means they will continue to spend less in the future — permanently.
Cheap money also corrodes the foundation of capitalism by altering the capital formation process by creating a corporate bias in favoring of selling bonds instead of stock. In fact, right now, many companies are borrowing billions to buy back their own stock. Carried to its logical extremity, this ultimately reduces ownership by shareholders to zero. Who, then, do managements and boards answer to? No one. And is having companies capitalized with 100% debt good for the economy? It seems just a matter of time before economic conditions would come along to tumble that house of cards. Then, instead of a depression with 25% unemployment (1930s), how about a depression with 100% unemployment? You won’t have an Occupy Wall Street then; you’ll have violent revolution and overthrow.
In short, quantitative easing had its usefulness at the beginning of the financial crisis, but is counterproductive now. We’re hearing a lot of bleating from Wall Street for more quantitative easing. That’s because QE3 would push up stock prices and the Wall Street bleaters will profit from that. They shouldn’t be listened to. Not by the Federal Reserve, and not by you or me.
For the reasons outlined above, there should be no QE3. It’s time Federal Reserve policy stopped sucking up to Wall Street and began serving Main Street.
@ 299
You must already be hypoxic from despairing for our country. That’s what seems breathtaking.
@ 300
So, what if The One needs QE3 to get re-elected? No stimulus, no recovery, Obama looks weak and responsible for a recession in Q3, etc.
Would you still be opposed to QE3?
BTW I also am opposed to QE3. I say we tough it out and replace the president, then watch the money on the sidelines return to good use in the economy.
But the above was a serious question, RR. What if Obama needs it to be re-elected?
@298 I’ll agree to your proposal if you’ll agree to my proposal. I’ll even go you one better, and this doesn’t even require new legislation: If someone submits a false voter registration, prosecute him/her, and make him/her pay a fine and/or do jail time.
But I’d also like to extend that principle to people (see, e.g., Lori Sotelo) who file perjured affidavits to challenge voter registrations. That doesn’t require new legislation, either, it only needs a politically unbiased prosecutor (do not see, e.g., Dan Satterberg) who will enforce the laws we already have.
@302 “Would you still be opposed to QE3?”
Yes.
“I say we tough it out and replace the president …”
With what? This?
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-fntl.....apital.jpg
“But the above was a serious question, RR. What if Obama needs it to be re-elected?”
Right now it’s hard for me to visualize any scenario in which Obama loses to a candidate as lame as Romney, but if you’ll allow me to give a hypothetical answer to your hypothetical question, I disagree with Bernanke’s easing policy independently of, and regardless of, wat Obama needs to get re-elected. In any case, I don’t see how a Federal Reserve policy that’s not stimulating the economy helps Obama get re-elected if he needs a better economy to get re-elected, which is by no means a given. But even if QE3 made the difference between Obama winning or losing in November, I would still be against QE3 for all the reasons I stated @300 plus the fact I think ineffectual government interventions in markets that create market distortions is a bad thing. Unequivocally, period, without qualifications or exceptions, and all that.
If what your driving at is the tendency of politicians in an elective democracy to manipulate government policies to give their own re-election a boost in an election year, then yes, that’s a serious issue that merits serious discussion, but what’s your suggested solution for that?
I think the immediate direction any such discussion should go is as follows. The Federal Reserve was putatively structured to insulate monetary policymakers from partisan politics, but there is some question of whether they really are. So, the first question is, are they? And if we conclude they’re not, then what should our response be? Get rid of the Federal Reserve altogether, as Randroids want to do? Restructure it to increase its distance from partisan influences? Can that be done with some tweaking, or does it require major reorganization?
Or, is the system working okay, but Ben Bernanke is simply wrong? In which case, what to do about that? Bernanke was a Bush appointee; if he’s jettisoned when the position next comes up for appointment, I won’t weep over his departure; but I’ll want to see who/what President Obama or President Romney intends to replace him with. Bring Greenspan back? Hell no, if those two are my only choices, I’ll take Ben, and that’s not even like asking, “Would you rather be hanged or shot?”
Another question to ask is, is the Fed chair simply too powerful? Is Greenspan or Bernanke or Whoever too much a Committee of One? Should we give the other Fed governors expanded say, and maybe bring in the regional Federal Reserve Bank presidents and give them expanded power over monetary policy, too? In other words, replace the Committee of One with a committee of many? Or is this like asking whether a Poliburo works better than a Generalissimo?
Bernanke is smarter than me, and knows more about economics than I do, especially on the subject of what causes depressions and/or makes them worse. I’ve taken that into account and still find myself disagreeing with him, and not just because other people who are smarter and more credentialed than me disagree with him, too.
I think this is one of those areas where nobody knows the answer for sure, so when the Fed tries something, you look at whether it’s working, and if it doesn’t seem to be, any rational rabbit is going to conclude that maybe the policy guys should try something else. What was it Einstein said about trying the same thing over and over, and getting the same result? I’m pretty sure Bernanke is familiar with that idea, at least, he should be.
My thought is let’s try something simple: Get the government out of the market and let market forces work to bring the economy back into balance. That will have to happen anyway, and the more you create market distortions with government tinkering, the longer it’ll take.
So stop oversteering the car and let it track by itself, assuming the suspension isn’t bent; who knows, it might go straighter than you can steer it. The same principle applies to how a pilot should operate a properly trimmed airplane (ask Darryl about that one if you don’t understand it).
Now go ahead and call me a communist …
One thing (certainly not the only thing) I’d like to see happen is for stock prices to find their own level without being pushed in one direction or another by some guy in a leather swivel chair behind a mahogany desk in a marble palace in Washington D.C. You can’t figure out what you should pay for a stock when someone behind a curtain is making it dance on a string.
(Think “yo-yo” and you’re not far off what investors have to cope with right now; which, needless to say, is keeping a lot of investors out of the market. If Bernanke wants stock prices to go up, he should try letting go of the string. That would bring more people into the market, and their buying would push up stock prices far more effectively than he can.)
The first really lucid comment you’ve written in a long time Roger Rabbit.
After your picture attack it was cogent, thoughtful and eloquent. My hat off to you Roger. I really mean it. Something Lib da Schmuck could never write in a million years with a centillion * centillion tries. When you shed that stupid libtard persona you are ok.
So, does a Fed Chairman or a Fed bank head make a great Secretary of the Treasury?
Bob, the Elizabeth Warren house flipping story is great, but now she’s blowing off her “compatriots“.
So how do you know a libtard is lying? They continue to revise their “story”!
HAHAHAHAHA!
HAHAHAHAHA
I’m in puddle’s head too – what’s with you wingnut Bible thumpers?
Can’t take fact?
I’m going to bed – you wingers are just too much
Hardly moron. Roger demonstrated he can be a normal human being, something out of your realm!
I delivered fact. Something Lib da Schmuck could never write in a million years with a centillion * centillion tries.
FOund this article on a facebook link from passenger advocacy group All Aboard Washington about the latest on TALGO suddenly going at it in Wisconsin. Apparently their US Head is calling us a Third World Country(this coming from a Spanish Company). Judging from the article, it seems the TALGO CEO may have just seen the movie Network, as it looks like he could not take his company being trashed by these politicians anymore.(Must be tough for a guy from a country where thhey do elections differently, and are more likely to have to work together).
http://urbanmilwaukee.com/2012.....rew-talgo/
Just passing the articles along, I know some here may not care.
For the San Francisco Municipal Railway, which turns 100 this year, historic rolling stock keeps on rolling on the F-Market and Wharves streetcar line. What does not get much press, is a vehicle used behind the scenes. Sound Transit and Metro use trucks for track repairs, but in Frisco, they still use a track repair car, car C-1, is 96 years old(only 4 years newer than historic streetcar No.1). Might as well stick with what works. Car No.1 was still in revenue service at the turn of the 20th Century until wiring problems sidelined it, and somebody parked it outside exposed to the elements. They got it back last year from a rebuild in Pennsylvania, and have rededicated it.
http://www.streetcar.org/blog/.....ws+Blog%29
Now this was something interesting in Frisco last year. Mayor Ed Lee was elected into a term in his own right, and something that struck me about him. He did not grandstand that much. Politicians like ribbon cutting ceremonies prior to the election.
http://www.streetcar.org/blog/.....r-lee.html
@306 “So, does a Fed Chairman or a Fed bank head make a great Secretary of the Treasury?”
S/he might or might not, depending on qualifications, experience, and intangible factors such as leadership qualities. In general, making policy at the Federal Reserve and supervising the IRS are two different jobs. So it’s not obvious to me that a Fed Chairman is a logical choice for Treasury Secretary.
@310 “Roger demonstrated he can be a normal human being”
Other than I get my rocks off pretending to be a feral rabbit. (Is there any other kind worth pretending to be?)
It very telling the moonbats are qwiet on Roger’s great post@304!
It sinks leftist moonbattery!
To Lib Sci regarding:
http://horsesass.org/?p=43834#comment-1153610
Apparently the IG’s mention of all of that green jobs money going to ‘friends and family’ wasn’t in the report.
It was out of the IG’s mouth during testimony:
The Department of Energy’s inspector general, Gregory Friedman, who was not a political appointee, chastised the alternative-energy loan and grant programs for their absence of “sufficient transparency and accountability.” He has testified that contracts have been steered to “friends and family.”
http://directorblue.blogspot.c.....nergy.html
80% of the programs went to Obama donors. And Romney’s a liar for bringing it up when it came out of DOE’s own IG’s mouth?
Nice try.
(Also posted on Friday night extravaganza since no one is reading here anymore)