Open Thread

A few random items:

- How a drunken bus ride from Paris to Berlin may result in a major change to our Afghanistan train wreck.

- Adam Serwer writes about how we turned Faizal Shahzad from a warrior into a pathetic loser by giving him access to our justice system.

- Haven’t been able to sign the I-1068 petition yet? Just pick up a copy of The Stranger this week.

- Gene Johnson writes about how medical marijuana patients can get the shaft in custody disputes.

- KUOW aired a discussion on marijuana policy yesterday. I didn’t get a chance to listen to it yet, but you can listen to it online here.

- Mark Cooke also discusses the futility of the recent DEA sweep.

UPDATE: And one more link…

- What happens if both liquor privatization initiatives pass?

Comments

  1. 1

    spews:

    Continuing from here:

    http://horsesass.org/?p=27838&.....nt-1006211

    Puddy placed words from Mrs Odumba.

    AND YOU ARE DEFLECTING AGAIN!

    How many time must I repeat myself for this moron?

    YOU DID THIS:

    161. GBS spews:

    147. Puddybud has fun skewering Libtardos spews:

    You missed this one too arschloch…

    “Bush is now no different than Saddam Hussein, Pol Pot, Stalin, Hitler”

    Et tu, Puddy?

    The whole point of that post that you purposefully took way out of context to fit within your own lie was about the Rule of Law in America. That no one was above the Rule of Law, including Democrats. Which, by the way, I called for them to be prosecuted as well if they were complicit in the torturing of human beings.

    http://horsesass.org/?p=26256#comment-994950

    You betrayed your “friend” to serve your dishonest purposes. When are you going to stop lying?

  2. 3

    Puddybud sez, Ask ylb, he has the full HA database at home spews:

    You know arschloch, you can continue to live on other peeps comments because your comments are worthless.

    While you scream and shout Puddy stabbed GBS in the back… Puddy will meet GBS for a lunch and he’ll learn he’s sadly mistaken.

    Butt you keep whining about something that has nothing to do with you cuz your life is so empty and devoid of anything useful.

    Keep wasting time on that home version database of Goldy’s HA. You are a leech, sucking on other people.

    The arschloch leech… yeah that’s the ticket!

  3. 5

    Michael spews:

    You know, I supported Obama’s get out of Iraq and shift the troops to The ‘Stan policy, but now we’re still in Iraq and The ‘Stan is still a mess. I think it’s time to come home. And while we’re at it, our troops aren’t wanted or needed in Okinawa or Greenland and probably a butt load of other places as well. Let’s bring them home and have them spend the rest of their tour of duty helping to rebuild America and then move forward with a much smaller and much cheaper military.

  4. 6

    spews:

    3 – One more time for benefit of folks who don’t follow old threads:

    You claimed HA lefties MANY TIMES said Bush = Hitler. I did a search and found little to no evidence of this.

    You USED GBS’s words to back it up – without proper attribution. I caught the smarmy move almost immediately.

    You’ve claimed in the past that GBS is your friend despite your ideological differences.

    So is this how you treat your friends? BY STABBING THEM IN THE BACK?

    While you scream and shout Puddy stabbed GBS in the back…

    Uh no fiend. Not just me saying this. GBS SAID IT FIRST.

    Torturing human beings IS not a lawful American tradition. Torture of humans is, at least was, associated with the world’s worst dictators. Now, the Bush/Cheney administration brought us into that disgraceful realm.

    Any Democrat, who authorized its use should also face justice.

    I’ll be taking your knife out of my back now.

    Same link as in comment 1.

  5. 7

    proud leftist spews:

    McChrystal needs to go. When military officers think they outrank their civilian commanders, trouble ensues. Sorry, Stan. Plus, how stupid could you be to get drunk with a reporter from Rolling Stone on a road trip?

  6. 10

    Puddybud sez, Ask ylb, he has the full HA database at home spews:

    Wrong again arschloch leech. Puddy gave a few examples. And Puddy gave the going progressive commentary.

    Such a useless life at home eh arschloch leech?

  7. 11

    Steve spews:

    I can’t get over the fact that Puddy believes his mama rode dinosaurs. Any leftist who argues climate change or evolution with a dunce like Puddy who believes the earth is 6,000 years old is obviously wasting their time. It’s best just to make fun of him and leave it at that.

  8. 12

    ConservativeFirst spews:

    http://horsesass.org/?p=27885

    Goldy:

    I write my own posts on topics of my own choosing. Isn’t that obvious?

    That said, I did consult with a couple of attorneys, as any non-lawyer should do when writing legal analysis.

    Regarding the numerous Rossi and McKenna vs. Goldmark posts, are you being fed information from another party? If so, has there been a monetary or mutually beneficial non-monetary exchange for posting this information?

  9. 13

    Mr. Cynical spews:

    Yet another big-time race with a Democrat Incumbent who is viewed as “the Problem”
    Tea Partiers are very active in Wisconsin and will get plenty of re-enforcements from outside the State (just like Nevada & Washington). Democrat incumbents with power positions must go. The Tea party is looking for high profile victories like this–

    Tuesday, June 22, 2010

    Incumbent Democrat Russ Feingold is still in a virtual dead heat with endorsed Republican challenger Ron Johnson in Wisconsin’s U.S. Senate race.

    The latest Rasmussen Reports telephone survey of Likely Voters in the state shows Feingold drawing 46% of the vote, while Johnson picks up 45%. Only three percent (3%) would vote for another candidate, and six percent (6%) are undecided. The two men also were tied in late May, just after Johnson was officially endorsed at the state’s Republican convention.

  10. 15

    Mr. Cynical spews:

    I enjoy posting the Rasmussen Poll so you KLOWNS can froth at the mouth and delude yourselves into believing it somehow isn’t accurate. With McChrystal courageously calling ObaMao’s top guys “Clowns”…this ought to get worse.

    When I started calling ObaMao and his henchmen…and any Rootless Atheist Progressive a KLOWN, I didn’t realize it would reach the high status of our esteemed General’s lips.

    Anyway, I expect this +8 Republican generic Poll lead to get bigger very soon what with this “revelation”, the botched BP Scandal void of leadership by ObaMao, the economic plan failing, the majority hating the Health Care Plan etc. etc. etc. etc. Oh and add Supreme Court nominee Kagan’s disrespect & hate for the Military while at Haaaaaavad.
    This is awesome. The Democrat Party self-destructing.

    Monday, June 21, 2010

    Republican candidates now hold an eight-point lead over Democrats on the Generic Congressional Ballot for the week ending Sunday, June 20.

    A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 44% of Likely U.S. Voters would vote for their district’s Republican congressional candidate, while 36% would opt for his or her Democratic opponent

  11. 16

    Mr. Cynical spews:

    14. Steve spews:

    @13 The dumbfuck KLOWN is another one of “the earth is 6,000 years old” twits.

    I don’t believe the earth is 6,000 years old.
    And once again, Steve is drunk at 6:30 AM posting nothing of substance and name-calling only. It shows how defeated Steve is.
    Too Damn Funny.

  12. 17

    Mr. Cynical spews:

    Hey Steve–
    Spin this into something positive for the Rootless Atheist Progressive Movement!

    Wednesday, June 23, 2010

    The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Wednesday shows that 28% of the nation’s voters Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as president. Forty-one percent (41%) Strongly Disapprove, giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of -13.

    Thirty-two percent (32%) believe that Canada’s health care system is better than the U.S. system. Most (51%) prefer the U.S. health care system over Canada’s.

    ObaMao cannot get out of negative double-digits on the Strong Approval rating. He’s stuck on negative…just like steve is stuck on stupid!

  13. 18

    Mr. Cynical spews:

    ObaMao is like poison ivy for many of the candidates in tight races like Reid, Feingold, Murray etc.
    I hope Murray brings the King of the KLOWNS in along with his l’il whiteguy Joker Biden.
    That ought to help…ROSSI!

  14. 19

    spews:

    @12
    If so, has there been a monetary or mutually beneficial non-monetary exchange for posting this information?

    Does getting the opportunity to sit around with beers in hand laughing at dim-witted paranoid trolls count as a “mutually beneficial non-monetary exchange”?

  15. 20

    Steve spews:

    Hey, Puddy, the dumbfuck KLOWN thinks you’re stupid for believing the earth is only 6,000 years old. Are you gonna take that shit??

    Yeah, you’ll take that shit, Puddy. You’ll take it because you’re too much a fucking coward to stand up to one of your own. He just dissed your faith and you’ll have nothing to say, nothing at all. You’ll take it like you take Troll rambling on about “nigger” this and “nigger” that. All you could muster in reply was a “there are white ones too”. You’re fucking pathetic.

    “Hey Steve–”

    Fuck off, KLOWN. You and your wingnut polls don’t amount to shit.

  16. 21

    Steve spews:

    “drunk at 6:30 AM posting nothing of substance and name-calling only”

    Projection. Obviously a wingnut KLOWN affliction. heh- I hear it’s a Psych 101 thing.

  17. 26

    spews:

    Puddy, the dumbfuck KLOWN thinks you’re stupid for believing the earth is only 6,000 years old.

    Heh. That’s really funny. I’m sure the next time Dumb and Dumber get together for a confab, they’ll “agree to disagree” on this issue.

    Contentious disagreement would interfere with their mutual passion for surf, turf and right wing bullshit.

  18. 27

    spews:

    chickenshit @ 25

    And you aren’t one of them?

    ruby-1.8.7-p174 > cols “-r -f=c -c=handle:matches~’*ylb is a racist’ -C”
    +——-+
    | count |
    +——-+
    | 82 |
    +——-+
    1 row in set
    => true
    ruby-1.8.7-p174 > cols “-r -f=c -c=handle:matches~’*lebowski’ -C”
    +——-+
    | count |
    +——-+
    | 339 |
    +——-+
    1 row in set
    => true
    ruby-1.8.7-p174 > cols “-r -f=c -c=handle:matches~’*max rockatansky’ -C”
    +——-+
    | count |
    +——-+
    | 744 |
    +——-+
    1 row in set

    Congrats fiend you’re in the thousand plus comments club. Less than 90 people in that bunch. Over 1000 comments of batshit ignorant right wing nonsense.

  19. 31

    Steve spews:

    “I’m sure the next time Dumb and Dumber get together for a confab, they’ll “agree to disagree” on this issue.”

    I’m sure their shared belief that Baby Jesus was a hate-filled asswipe teabagger will trump any disagreement they might have as to the age of the earth.

  20. 32

    Uh oh, Chongo! spews:

    @30

    you really do take this blog that seriously dont you?

    wow…but I guess when you have no life and no job, what else is there to do?

  21. 34

    Mr. Cynical spews:

    19. Lee spews:

    @12
    If so, has there been a monetary or mutually beneficial non-monetary exchange for posting this information?

    Does getting the opportunity to sit around with beers in hand laughing at dim-witted paranoid trolls count as a “mutually beneficial non-monetary exchange”?

    Conservative First–
    Lee did not answer the question you posed….so the answer is obviously YES!
    The posts are very similiar to posts on other Blogs & Democrat talking points. Hardly a coincidence. Goldy is certainly not a lawyer so this is obviously not his analysis.

  22. 35

    proud leftist spews:

    Cynical retches: “With McChrystal courageously calling ObaMao’s top guys “Clowns”…this ought to get worse.”

    You really hate this country and its traditions, don’t you, Cynny? McChrystal clearly crossed the long-honored line between military commanders and civilian leadership and you call him courageous. Why don’t you go live in a country governed by a military junta? That would well suit a fascist like you.

  23. 37

    Steve spews:

    @35 “Why don’t you go live in a country governed by a military junta? That would well suit a fascist like you.”

    I’ve long suggested Somalia for the KLOWN. Low taxes, no regulations – a wingnut paradise and their model for America’s future.

  24. 38

    Sane spews:

    pathetic Lee:
    Morning,

    Hippie Seattle Waitress:
    Morning.

    Pathetic Lee:
    What have you got?

    Hippie Seattle Waitress:
    Well, there’s weed and bacon,
    pot sausage and bacon
    Egg and weed
    Egg, bacon and weed
    Egg, bacon, sausage and weed
    weed, bacon, sausage and weed
    weed, egg, weed, weed, bacon and weed
    weed, sausage, weed, weed, weed, bacon, weed tomato and weed
    weed, weed, weed, egg and weed
    weed, weed, weed, weed, weed, weed, baked beans, weed, weed, weed and weed.

    (Rick Steves): weed! weed! weed! weed! Lovely weed! Lovely weed!)

    Or Lobster Thermidor aux crevettes with a mornay sauce
    served in a provencale manner with shallots and aubergines
    garnished with truffle pate, brandy and a fried egg on top and weed.

    Wife:
    Have you got anything without weed?

    Hippie Seattle Waitress:
    Well, the weed, eggs, sausage and weed
    That’s not got much weed in it

    Wife:
    I don’t want any weed!

    Pathetic Lee:
    Why can’t she have eggs, bacon, weed and sausage?

    Wife:
    That’s got weed in it!

    Pathetic Lee:
    Hasn’t got much weed in it as weed, eggs, sausage and weed has it?

    (Rick Steves: weed! weed! weed!…)

    Wife:
    Could you do me eggs, bacon, weed and sausage without the weed, then?

    Hippie Seattle Waitress:
    Iiiiiiiiiiiich!!

    Wife:
    What do you mean ‘Iiiiiiiiiich’? I don’t like weed!

    (Rick Steves: Lovely weed! Wonderful weed!)

    Hippie Seattle Waitress(to choir):
    Shut up!

    (Rick Steves: Lovely weed! Wonderful weed!)

    Hippie Seattle Waitress:
    Shut Up! Bloody Rick Steves!
    You can’t have egg, bacon, weed and sausage without the weed.

    Wife:
    I don’t like weed!

    Pathetic Lee:
    Shush dear, don’t have a fuss. I’ll have your weed. I love it,its my entire life,
    I’m having weed, weed, weed, weed, weed, weed, weed, baked beans,
    weed, weed, weed, and weed!

    (Choir: weed! weed! weed! weed! Lovely weed! Wonderful weed!)

    Hippie Seattle Waitress:
    Shut Up!! Baked beans are off.

    Pathetic Lee:
    Well, could I have her weed instead of the baked beans then?

    Hippie Seattle Waitress:
    You mean weed, weed, weed, weed, weed, weed, weed, weed, weed, weed, weed,
    weed and weed?

    Rick Steves (intervening):
    weed! weed! weed! weed!
    Lovely weed! Wonderful weed!
    Weed wee-e-e-e-e-ed weed wee-e-e-e-e-ed weed.
    Lovely wee! Lovely weed! Lovely weed! Lovely weed!
    weed weed weed weed!

  25. 39

    Steve spews:

    Geez, after all the effort you put into writing that comment I wish I could say that it was funny. Alas, it’s not, so I can’t. So sad.

  26. 41

    Mr. Cynical spews:

    Sane @ 38–
    TOO DAMN FUNNY!

    Lee & weed are becoming synonomous.
    He could at least change his name from Lee to the initials MJ

  27. 42

    spews:

    McChrystal out. Petraeus back in..

    http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITI.....8;iref=BN1

    Sorry Stan. You’re a hard-core warrior but you have a problem with bucking the chain of command.

    It was going to catch up with you sooner or later.

    Thank you President Obama for confirming that we we’re not supposed to be governed by the warrior caste.

    And all you COINdinistas? This is the U.S.A. not Israel.

  28. 43

    spews:

    @38
    I think the funniest thing about that comment is the tag name.

    I’m pretty sure I get called a stoner more than any other person on Earth who hasn’t been stoned in the year 2010.

  29. 45

    Michael spews:

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37.....n_the_gulf
    NBC News and news services
    updated 1 hour, 12 minutes ago
    NEW ORLEANS – Even more oil was gushing into the Gulf of Mexico on Wednesday after an undersea robot bumped a venting system, forcing BP to remove the cap that had been containing some of the crude.

    It was yet another setback in the nine-week effort to stop the gusher, and it came as thick pools of oil washed up on Pensacola Beach in Florida and the Obama administration tried to figure out how to resurrect a six-month moratorium on deepwater drilling.

    And the righties want deep water drilling to continue without taking a break to go over policies and procedures and so on?

    There’s a good break down of what’s going on at The Oil Drum.
    http://www.theoildrum.com/node/6645

  30. 46

    Steve spews:

    “38 – Yawwwnn.. HNMT rips off Monty Python..”

    Nah, that can’t be the HNMT. I know you guys don’t like him, but I find our HNMT to have a very wicked sense of humor. So, no, that can’t be the HNMT. If it is, then he’s just phoning it in today.

  31. 47

    spews:

    46 – Tell you what. Next time you see HNMT here, tell him what a fantastic guy Lee is. Sharp as a knife, a great dad, a keen political analyst’s mind.

    See what our beloved HNMT does.

  32. 48

    Steve spews:

    Yeah, I’m sure the HNMT would disagree with me on that one.

    “Sharp as a knife, a great dad, a keen political analyst’s mind.”

    All true, I’m sure, but that thing he had going with SJ did strike me as being somewhat, um, out of Melville or something.

    “Thar she blows, Lee! Harpoon that sucka!”

    No offence intended, Lee.

  33. 49

    YLB Junior spews:

    @47 Sharp as a knife, a great dad, a keen political analyst’s mind.

    And willing to work, unlike you! I wish Lee was my Daddy!

  34. 50

    Puddybud sez, Ask ylb, he has the full HA database at home spews:

    tell him what a fantastic guy Lee is. Sharp as a knife, a great dad, a keen political analyst’s mind.

    The absolute complete opposite of the arschloch leech.

    The arschloch leech qualities:
    Dumb as a brick
    Completely useless as a person
    Useless father figure
    Wears the pink panties and skirt in the house
    Clueless as ever
    No memory so he leeches off a blog
    Lives vicariously on other peeps posts
    Biggest fool around
    And possesses a pornographic mind.

  35. 51

    spews:

    Heh.. 49 and 50 sittin’ in a tree…

    How’s the friend betrayal business moron?

    I think I’ll write a blog post detailing this pathetic meltdown..

  36. 52

    Puddybud sez, Ask ylb, he has the full HA database at home spews:

    Fool@51,

    This is Puddy’s final comment. If Puddy betrayed him why would he ask to meet for lunch fool?

    When you figger that out, you’ll grow a brain!

  37. 55

    Michael spews:

    @54

    Drill, Baby, Drill! indeed.

    They’re burning off quite a bit of the oil and those of use that believe in gravity (it’s just a theory after all and it isn’t in the bible!) know that what comes up must come down.

  38. 56

    spews:

    If Puddy betrayed him why would he ask to meet for lunch fool?

    Shit, I honestly don’t know. Like I said, I believe he’s a forgiving soul.

    Maybe he believes it’s just the right wing bullshit talking. Like with an alcoholic – it’s just the booze talking.

    He’s able to look past that.

    Me? To me there’s no separating the lying, the name-calling, the mean-spiritedness, the ugly stench of right wing propagandistic mendacity from the blind fool who promulgates it with every fiber of his being.

  39. 57

    spews:

    chickenshit @ 53

    Maybe you can go to lunch with Junk-shot (puddybud) and give GBS the grand you owe him.

    He accepted your challenge. You wimped out, remember?

    junk-shot won’t let him bite you. Not that GBS would want to infect himself with your miserable, cowardly, all talk, no action, ignorant ass.

  40. 58

    spews:

    that thing he had going with SJ did strike me as being somewhat, um, out of Melville or something.

    I’ll defer to Lee on that one. Lee has actually had personal dealings with sj. SJ occasionally writes thoughtful stuff but on the whole is a bit eccentric to say the least.

  41. 59

    Uh oh, Chongo! spews:

    @57

    lol….so I guess that means the blog in reality, does not exist.

    if a tree falls…….

    also kinda funny that some psycho who sits at home all day and lives his life within a 6 block radius would call someone else a chickenshit…lol

    all….day….long.

  42. 61

    Puddybud sez, Ask ylb, he has the full HA database at home spews:

    Pavlov sez, the arschloch leech right on time w/in 15 minutes.

    Suck a dumb brick fool! No wonder he arschloch leech is up late at night with his progressive 24×7 hate.

  43. 62

    Steve spews:

    @56 “Like I said, I believe he’s a forgiving soul.”

    I find I always have to forgive Puddy after reading one of his comments. I’d bet that I offer more forgiveness in a day of reading Puddy’s drivel than most priests do in a month. Oh, and speaking of Puddy,

    @52 “This is Puddy’s final comment.”

    My goodness! Miracle of miracles! I can now say that there truly is a God as a prayer of mine has at long last been answered.

    @61 Puddy sez:

    Damn, God, that was cruel. So much for my prayers being answered.

  44. 63

    Puddybud sez, Ask ylb, he has the full HA database at home spews:

    Steve Steve Steve,

    You can feed the arschloch leech, he can suck on you. Puddy not playing dat. Too much real news out there to smell the arschloch.

  45. 65

    Steve spews:

    “Puddy not playing dat”

    As if you have a choice. Here’s a clue. YLB and I play the game. You’re the ball.

  46. 66

    Puddybud sez, Ask ylb, he has the full HA database at home spews:

    Wrong Steve Steve Steve… You forgot the good part…

    he can suck on you.

    Why do you leave out the pertinent part of the paragraph Steve Steve Steve?

    Puddy the bat, smack side yo head (big head on neck). Don’t get more strange on Puddy Steve Steve Steve.

    Did the arschloch fart above? Did anyone hear it?

  47. 70

    Michael spews:

    Utah is alway a rich source for “news of the weird.”

    A woman who police say stole two cars and led them on a chase all while she was naked is now in jail.
    West Valley City, Utah officers eventually stopped her with a Taser.

    …“She did have blood on her body from the initial crash. She was hot and sweaty, dirty, and very slippery. She managed to escape the grasp of the two officers,“ McLachlan said.
    And she was off again!

    http://www2.counton2.com/cbd/n.....se/149406/

  48. 71

    Puddybud sez, Ask ylb, he has the full HA database at home spews:

    Pavlov Sez,

    Foolish arschloch leech right on time with the database link. Puddy can make you barf on command fool! Such a moron. Puddy make make you regurgitate a link a day and you can’t stop yourself.

    BTW that was Puddy’s final comment on your GBS whine. Whatafool.

    Joe Barton? He’s president? When did this happen?

  49. 72

    Puddybud sez, Ask ylb, he has the full HA database at home spews:

    Michael,

    Those are the stories normally brought forth by the arschloch leech, the freaky guy with the left porn eye.

  50. 73

    spews:

    71 – zzzzzZZZZZzzzzzzZZZzz

    I’ve trained you well to spew that Pavlov pablum..

    From the database.. Heh. Wrong fool. It’s from the comment threads. Where anyone can find it if they bother.

    Joe Barton is a low-life shill for the oil companies with an R next to his name..

    If he doesn’t keep his mouth shut, your stupid peeps in the South might not rise out of their Barcaloungers to throw the lever for more oil company shills with R next to their name.

    Joe Barton is ruining the program you dipwad.

  51. 74

    spews:

    70 – Yeah Michael. Junk shot’s favorite people in whole world, the teabaggers are quite strong in that State.

    Holier than thou and strange behind closed doors. In the case of that woman she couldn’t keep it where the Jones’ couldn’t see it.

  52. 77

    spews:

    It really galls me that Republicans kept pretty quiet over the McChrystal thing. Ok that was good. Civilians are the boss of the military. A troop crosses the line and he pay the consequences.

    Yet Barton couldn’t do the same before the CEO of the 4th largest company in the world.

    HE PROSTRATED HIMSELF before that scumbag.. And in doing so spoke for MANY if not ALL in his party. Now those fools are scrambling to cover that up.

    Just goes to show who they work for and how they treat the hired help.

    BP is the boss and the U.S. Military keeps the world safe for greedheads like that to pursue their greed agenda to the point of destroying whatever environment that stands in their way.

  53. 78

    Mr. Cynical spews:

    ObaMao continues to fumble in the eyes of Real Americans as November quickly approaches.
    And Rahmbo will certainly be one of the key Republican whipping boys along with Pelosi, Reid & Axelrod.
    Read & Weep–

    Friday, June 25, 2010

    The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Friday shows that 27% of the nation’s voters Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as president. Forty-two percent (42%) Strongly Disapprove, giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of -15.

    Twelve percent (12%) have a Very Favorable opinion of Rahm Emanuel

    12% VERY FAVORABLE?
    Who are the shitferbrains krowd in that 12%??