Sheriff Larry Deen of Bossier Parish, Louisiana, has raised a 200-man militia he calls “Operation Exodus” to display “an overwhelming show of force prior to” natural disasters and “homegrown terrorists.” The force has no women and is 97.5% white.
Sheriff Deen, a leader of a group called Cops for Christ, says on the sheriff’s office website that he “answers to his God and to the citizens he serves.” In a press release, he said the name “Operation Exodus” came from Bible, and described the militia to a newspaper as a “calling.”
AOL News says, “Weapons such as .50-caliber machine guns purchased by the sheriff’s department are at the group’s disposal” and Deen “will also make shotguns, riot shields and batons available to the members of Operation Exodus.”
Roger Rabbit Commentary: As the judge correctly points out, numerous death row inmates across the nation have been released after being exonerated by DNA evidence, even as Republicans have sought to slam courthouse doors shut on death penalty appeals based on claims of innocence. To date, there is no proof that an innocent person has been executed, but a leading candidate is the Texas case of Cameron Todd Willingham, who was executed in 2004 for allegedly setting a house fire that killed his three children. National arson experts have characterized the fire as accidental and the investigation and prosecution as sloppy and incompetent. Recently, Texas GOP Gov. Rick Perry fired the members of a state commission that is reviewing the case and replaced them with his cronies to prevent a finding that Willingham was innocent, which would be politically embarrassing for Perry as he refused to read a report criticizing the trial and calling Willingham’s guilt into question only hours before he refused to stop the execution.
Of course no DUMMOCRAPTIC prosecutor has ever done that right THE DUMB BUNNY? Please say no THE DUMB BUNNY!
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RUFUSspews:
hahahahaha
You donks just can’t win. The recent lefty terrorism is just a prelude to what is going to happen when conservatives take over congress in 2010 and then finally the presidency in 2012. You guys should really use illegals to do your dirty work rather than the few registered moonbats that have been in the news lately. Just a hint. hehehehehehe
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kspews:
Democrats most certainly have participated in the execution of innocents. Does that mean since both sides did it, it’s OK? You have used that reasoning before, but in life or death?
Other than the “if you kill them they won’t do it again” arguement, the death penalty is not a deterrent. Remember Ted Bundy went to a state with the death penalty. Crimes of passion do not have the sort of weighing of consequences which include considering the likilhood of being caught and convicted. And you can get the same assurance they won’t do it again with life without parole.
Please don’t tell me you favor state executions because they are cheaper.
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YLBspews:
You donks just can’t win.
Poor Doofus. Typical right winger, always projecting.
You lost in 2005, 2006 and 2008.. and you said the same old bullshit back then…
You’re a compulsive loser doofus… Sure sucks to be you coprophagous cur.
By the way, Rachel’s tv segment was pretty good. Makes good fun of right wing paranoia, fear-mongering and stupidity…
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YLBspews:
I highly recommend Google’s chrome browser on Linux..
It’s fast!
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Mr. Cynicalspews:
Puddy-
As the KLOWNS of the People’s Socialist Republic of Seattle continue their circlejerk about how wonderful the I-man Obam-Mao is…the rest of America awakens!
Saturday, March 06, 2010
The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Saturday shows that 25% of the nation’s voters Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as President. Forty-two percent (42%) Strongly Disapprove giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of -17.
Fifty-five percent (55%) say that Congress should scrap the current health care legislation and start over. Thirty-seven percent (37%) disagree.
Forty-six percent (46%) trust Republicans more than Democrats when it comes to the economy. Forty-one percent (41%) trust Democrats more.
The question about who do you trust on the economy is a massive reversal from a year ago. The Progressives have blown it. It’s the economy stupes!!
While Obam-Mao tells us he is focused on jobs..he continues to make Health Care and HIMSELF…his top priority.
What kind of Christian Leader uses the word “I” as much as Obam-Mao has???
Answer–No one.
By his actions and his self-focus, we see a man who puts his own PRIDE above the welfare of the American people and our kids future.
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YLBspews:
This is hilarious..
A Republican runs ads on “out of control spending”
FUNDED BY TAXPAYER DOLLARS!
And these are the guys who voters are supposed to run in droves to this fall??
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YLBspews:
It’s the economy stupes!!
You’re referring to your dinner date?
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Roger Rabbitspews:
@10 So you think we should just kill people without trials?
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Mr. Cynicalspews:
The Dummocrats are doing so well on Health Care…here is what Nevada thinks about Crazy Harry’s performance and other assorted moronic blatherings–
Friday, March 05, 2010
Two of Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid’s Republican challengers have again crossed the 50% threshold and now hold double-digit leads in Nevada’s U.S. Senate race. One big hurdle for the incumbent is that most Nevada voters are strongly opposed to the health care legislation championed by Reid and President Barack Obama.
The latest Rasmussen Reports telephone survey of likely voters in the state finds Sue Lowden, ex-chairman of the Nevada Republican Party, with a 51% to 38% lead on Reid. Seven percent (7%) prefer some other candidate, but just three percent (3%) are undecided.
Businessman Danny Tarkanian posts a similar 50% to 37% lead over the embattled Democratic leader. Nine percent (9%) opt for another candidate, and four percent (4%) are undecided.
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Roger Rabbitspews:
@13 Doofus still thinks the Pentagon shooter is a “lefty” because he smoked pot. In fact, as the news media have reported, he was a libertarian, which is a conservative conservative.
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Mr. Cynicalspews:
And this is a MUST read–
Americans trust Republican’s more than Dummocrats on 8 out of 10 key issues!!
Seems clear I-man Obam-Mao has fallen from his l’il messiahship…taking old Harry Dumba$$ Reid with him!!
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Roger Rabbitspews:
KOMO Reports Jailhouse Confession Exonerates Knox
Under a headline screaming “Stunning Revelation,” KOMO 4 News reports that Rudy Guede, one of three people convicted in an Italian court of the murder of a British student, told a cellmate that Amanda Knox wasn’t even present when the murder occurred.
Roger Rabbit Commentary: I didn’t follow the case very much, so I can’t really comment except in general terms. Witness testimony is notoriously unreliable, and most lawyers learn about that in law school. I would hope that any prosecutor seeking to send someone away for 26 years would have physical evidence linking the accused to the crime. Italy has a different system for investigating and prosecuting crimes, and I don’t know enough about it to evaluate it. Some questions have been raised about the integrity and competence of the prosecutor in the Knox case. From this distance, I can’t help but wonder whether the whole Italian justice system is polluted by politics or corruption; that seems like a possibility. This jailhouse confession may be nothing more than another inmate angling for favors — after all, people in jails aren’t the most reliable witnesses. In any event, we probably haven’t heard the last of the Knox case. My guess is the wheels in Italy will grind slowly, and guilty or innocent, she’ll likely be back in the States within a few years.
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Roger Rabbitspews:
Everybody: Skip #15, it has no content.
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Roger Rabbitspews:
@16 Let’s not forget that when Republicans ran Congress the prison bus made regular stops there.
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Roger Rabbitspews:
@15 “It’s the economy stupes!!”
Yes, it is. And the majority of voters know whose fault the economic collapse is. That’s why the GOP lost the House, Senate, and White House.
But what’s truly amazing is that conservatives have learned absolutely nothing in the last 80 years. Some of them still want to put the U.S. back on the gold standard, even though that was the #1 cause of the Great Depression. They’re angry because Bush and Obama didn’t let the banks fail, another major cause of the Great Depression. They’re worried about deficits instead of deflation, even though there is no inflation and economic indicators still show dangerous deflationary signs. They’re against programs like FDIC and Social Security that provide critical anti-depression insurance for the economy. It’s almost as if these people want another Great Depression. Heaven knows why. Maybe they enjoy seeing people suffer.
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Roger Rabbitspews:
@22 “Seems clear I-man Obam-Mao has fallen from his l’il messiahship…”
Yeah, a lot of independents and Democrats are disgusted with him for being weak instead of more aggressive in stomping on Republican obstructionists.
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Michaelspews:
#11
Is obviously referring to Leon Czolgosz.
I had a nice little romp out at Mt. St. Michael. Checking up on a few things and then it’s back out in sunshine for me.
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Michaelspews:
@14
Chrome runs faster than Safari for me. I still like Safari better though.
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Mr. Cynicalspews:
I-Man Obam-Mao appoints his BOSS to the Deficit Reduction Committee!!
Obam-Mao appoints his close political ally, union leader Andrew Stern, to the newly created National Commission on Fiscal Responsibility and Reform has set off a firestorm of criticism from business and conservative groups who charge he is a political radical who should be investigated for failure to register as a lobbyist.
Hey, at least the I-Man is now upfront about who is in charge…the government workers!
What a sick joke.
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Mr. Cynicalspews:
I-Man Obam-Mao!!! If there is one thing Obama knows, that is the word “I”. Someone actually counted how many times he referred to himself in the first person (132 times) while shoveling it up in Ohio last week in a speech, on who else, I!!!
The video is telling-
What an arrogant f—!
Must be all about his father deserting him and the bastard child syndrome.
Democrats most certainly have participated in the execution of innocents. Does that mean since both sides did it, it’s OK? You have used that reasoning before, but in life or death?
Surely you are directing that comment at THE DUMB BUNNY!
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YLBspews:
he was a libertarian, which is a conservative conservative.
A losertarian is a Republican that smokes pot.
And y’all know who originated the “losertarian” moniker, don’t you??
Roger Rabbit once represented a murderer. That makes Roger …
[ ] 1. Soft on crime
[ ] 2. Liz Cheney’s cousin
[ ] 3. A vegetable-eating rodent
[ ] 4. A lawyer
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Puddybud is Sad my friend diedspews:
[ ] 1. Soft on crime
[ ] 2. Liz Cheney’s cousin
[ ] 3. A vegetable-eating rodent
[ ] 4. A lawyer
[X] 5. Money grubbing barrister.
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proud leftistspews:
Cynny @ 31: “Must be all about his father deserting him and the bastard child syndrome.”
You can differ with Obama on policy matters, but your ceaseless ragging on his character, temperament, and habits discloses your complete inability to ever set aside your raging partisanship. Obama is a fine man, yet you are incapable of recognizing anything good about him. Have I ever told you that you have absolutely no credibility on any issue (other than perhaps certain matters pertaining to goats)?
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Roger Rabbitspews:
@34 Strangest “Democrat” I ever saw …
“A blog … that appears to be authored by Bedell, subscribes to many libertarian beliefs, including, ‘The most basic principle of economic justice is the protection of private property …. Modern governments … consistently and routinely violate the rights of property owners…’ Bedell also complained about the size of the United States government, organized theft by the government of citizen’s personal property, government control of the economy including ‘[T]he constantly expanding regulation of business.’ …
“Bedell’s anti-government views on his blog are also buttressed by his Facebook page, since deleted but image captured, wherein he associated himself as a fan of the libertarian/conservative Ludwig von Mises Institute, Lew Rockwell, and Shelly Roche (a self-described libertarian.) …
“Bedell was described as motivated by a hatred of the federal government ….”
Once again, I wish to apologize to all monkeys, whether flying or earthbound, for my unintentional and inadvertent slandering of their species by calling them a Puddy …
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Roger Rabbitspews:
@36 Yes, but don’t you and your ilk worship money grubbers like me? Especially when you get in trouble and need a mouthpiece to fish you out of the can?
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Roger Rabbitspews:
@30 Who did you expect him to appoint? One of Bush’s corrupt corporate cronies?
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proud leftistspews:
Rabbit
I’ve always found it fascinating that the market-worshipping, capitalism-loving crowd faults no one but lawyers for wanting to make money. They proclaim the desire to make money as a fundamental value unless, of course, you are a lawyer. Naturally, expecting consistency from our wingnut friends is a vain endeavor.
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Roger Rabbitspews:
Conservative Lawyers Blast Liz Cheney Ad
“(March 6) — Left-leaning politicos aren’t the only ones criticizing an attack ad launched by … the organization co-founded by Liz Cheney ….
“Conservative legal minds, including officials who served in the Bush administration, are also condemning the ad ….
“John Bellinger III, who served as a legal adviser to former Secretary of State Condoleeza Rice, expressed his disapproval in a statement to The American Prospect. ‘I think it’s unfortunate that these individuals are being criticized for their past representation …,’ he said. … ‘We’ve had a long-standing tradition in our country for lawyers to represent unpopular causes, and they shouldn’t be attacked for doing so.’
“Bellinger’s statement was echoed by another Bush-era Justice Department official, former assistant attorney general for the civil division, Peter D. Keisler, who told The New York Times it was simply ‘wrong’ for Cheney’s group to judge lawyers for their past detainee work. ‘There is a longstanding and very honorable tradition of lawyers representing unpopular or controversial clients,’ Keisler said. “The fact that someone has acted within that tradition … should never be a basis for suggesting that they are unfit in any way ….’
“In a post titled ‘An Attack That Goes Too Far,’ Paul Mirengoff, a lawyer and writer for Power Line, a conservative blog, said it was … ‘false’ to … imply they share the values of terrorists. … ‘I would not deserve to have a law license if my personal views … caused me to launch vicious, unfounded attacks on lawyers who … represent despicable clients.”
Roger Rabbit Commentary: Liz Cheney made an egregious rookie mistake by conflating lawyers with the clients they represent. The entire American legal profession, regardless of political orientation or party affiliation, disagrees with her. She should pull the ad and issue a public apology to the lawyers she slandered.
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Roger Rabbitspews:
@42 When you look at who’s the first to go running to the ACLU for free representation, it’s obvious what’s going on here. Have you ever met anyone who didn’t want free legal advice? Even Lincoln must have faced this problem, or he wouldn’t have had any reason to say, “A lawyer’s time and advice are his stock in trade.”
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Puddybud is Sad my friend diedspews:
You should apologize to all rabbits because you are THE DUMB BUNNY. Even Bugs would make fun of you.
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Ekimspews:
Cyn’s posts are becoming increasingly more shrill with a very low information to noise ratio. Still, if you look closely enough, you can pick out parts of his posts that touch on both delusion and psychosis.
But what could be causing his psychosis? It could be he suffers from a hereditary disease, possibly strengthened by a family tree that does not branch. Alternatively Syphilis is known to cause mental disorders. He could have possibly picked Syph up from his pet goats or maybe from a family member. Or he could just be he is watching too much Glenn Beck and actually believing what Beck is saying as truth.
Whatever the reason, MrC has earned the title of Mr. Psycho.
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Blue Johnspews:
@26
I think too many people would rather fight tooth and nail for tax cuts for the super rich, with the improbably dream of being super rich some day themselves, than admit to themselves they are poor.
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Blue Johnspews:
I think that’s why one segement of the population hates Democrats and Al Gore. They are telling Americans “NO, you can’t have it all.” Democrats tell us that we need to fear climate change and need public heath care and public social security and to pay taxes because we cannot all be super rich. If you were filthy rich, you don’t need those programs, you can pay for everything from the change bucket at the end of the hall. Only losers, the poor need social programs. To want those programs, means you accept that you may not be filthy rich.
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proud leftistspews:
Ekim
I, too, am becoming increasingly concerned about Cynny’s mental health. His connection to reality appears to be more and more tenuous. We just see rants now, capital letters, and incomprehensible jibberish. His only gospel now is the daily Rasmussen poll. He doesn’t seem to understand that polls should not dictate public policy. I care so much for him and his well-being, so it is quite traumatizing for me to have to watch his downward spiral. I will pray for him.
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Bugs Bunnyspews:
Who authorized you to speak for me, dumbass?
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lostinaseaofbluespews:
Re Blue John
The wealthy don’t use more government services than the poor, less in fact.
The wealthy pay already a share of the tax burden disproportionate to their share of collective income.
The wealthy aid in job creation when they buy stuff, build stuff, or innovate. As such they actually create an additional layer of taxable income with these jobs, effectively cancelling out whatever services they do use.
I can’t speak for any conservatives but myself. Nonetheless, I can’t agree with your conclusion. I know very wealthy people who are happy and some who are miserable. Money doesn’t make the difference here, and I know it and have no desire to be super rich.
For me it’s an issue of fairness. If you ask the wealthy to pay the same percent of their income as their less fortunate fellow taxpayers I have no problems. If you ask them to carry the financial burden of government for everyone else I do.
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lostinaseaofbluespews:
Re Blue John
The wealthy don’t use more government services than the poor, less in fact.
The wealthy pay already a share of the tax burden disproportionate to their share of collective income.
The wealthy aid in job creation when they buy stuff, build stuff, or innovate. As such they actually create an additional layer of taxable income with these jobs, effectively cancelling out whatever services they do use.
I can’t speak for any conservatives but myself. Nonetheless, I can’t agree with your conclusion. I know very wealthy people who are happy and some who are miserable. Money doesn’t make the difference here, and I know it and have no desire to be super rich.
For me it’s an issue of fairness. If you ask the wealthy to pay the same percent of their income as their less fortunate fellow taxpayers I have no problems. If you ask them to carry the financial burden of government for everyone else I do.
Fiscally this holds up as well. Private sector money is productive money. Public sector is neutral at best, growth prohibitive at worst.
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lostinaseaofbluespews:
Sorry about the double. I hate Internet Expolorer.
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lostinaseaofbluespews:
As for the video, I think the presentation of Maddows point consintent with her low quality of journalism.
Unfortunately and for once I have to agree with her. An attorney representing a murderer is sanctioning murder. He or she is playing an essential role in our criminal justice system.
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Roger Rabbitspews:
Factoid: $500 billion of the $1.6 trillion deficit — nearly a third — went for financial assistance to states.
Factoid: General fund spending of all 50 states totaled $664 billion in 2009.
Factoid: Budget shortfalls of all 50 states for 2010 total $108.7 or about 16% of 2009 spending.
Factoid: States are plugging their budget gaps with twice as many spending cuts as tax increases ($55.7 billion versus $23.9 billion).
Factoid: The states with the largest budget shortfalls are California (49%), Illinois (47%), Arizona (41%), Nevada (37%), New York (32%), Alaska (30%), and New Jersey (29%). Four of these states have Republican governors and two have Democratic governors.
Factoid: The states with budget shortfalls under 5% are Arkansas, Nebraska, South Dakota, West Virginia, and Wyoming; the states with no budget shortfalls are Montana and North Dakota. Four of these states have Democratic govenors and three have Republican governors.
Sources: Barron’s magazine, March. 8, 2010, p. 47 (financial data); Wikipedia (list of governors).
Roger Rabbit Commentary: Three things stand out: (1) 48 states have budget shortfalls; the two that don’t receive large oil and gas royalties. (2) Legislatures are using spending cuts more than tax increase to close budget gaps by a factor of 2:1. (3) States with Republican governors are not more fiscally responsible.
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Max Rockatanskyspews:
255…sounds to me like 48 states need to cut their spending.
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Roger Rabbitspews:
@51 “The wealthy don’t use more government services than the poor, less in fact.”
What’s your source for this?
The largest non-entitlement component of the federal budget is defense, which pays for (among other things) protecting overseases U.S. business interests and assets, which are predominantly owned by the wealthy.
Public education, from kindergarten through college, that trains the workforce is a gigantic subsidy for businesses needing skilled workers. Wealthy people are the principal owners of these businesses.
Wealthy people tend to use more government services because they own more property, do more development, and their businesses need government services.
Wealthy people use the courts more because they have a vast slew of commercial matters in litigation.
Wealthy people benefit from government contracts and spending.
This is only a very partial list.
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Max Rockatanskyspews:
lets make everyone the same. We can call it the United States of Lazy Mediocrity.
you know we are fucked when a large group of people decide they need free shit, at the expense of the few at the top.
the problem is, with the amount of free stuff that is being asked for by the “less than motivated”(see YLB), it means not only are the rich paying for them, but us schmucks in the middle class get to pay for them too.
This is why we MUST, as a nation, see to it that EVERYONE pays the same tax rate – no exceptions. no deductions, no sales tax, no property tax, no phone tax, no condom tax, no tobacco tax, no booze tax. Just ONE flat rate income tax that we all pay – period.
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Roger Rabbitspews:
@58 Oh yeah, the rich get their money by working for it, yeah sure! A hedge fund manager who makes $500 million a year works 20,000 times as many hours as a janitor making $25,000 a year! No wait, he works 20,000 times as fast as the janitor! No wait, he’s 20,000 times as valuable as the janitor, even though his investors lost their shirts last year! No wait …
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Roger Rabbitspews:
@58 So taxing estates redistributes money for hardworking heirs to lazy middle-class workers? I thought so!
HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR
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Roger Rabbitspews:
Wingnuts love to bitch about taxes they don’t pay!
% of income paid to state by richest: 3%
% of income paid to state by poorest: 17%
Source: Gates Commission Report
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Roger Rabbitspews:
@58 “you know we are fucked when a large group of people decide they need free shit, at the expense of the few at the top”
Then I guess you’re fucked, pal, because you live in what’s known as a “democracy”.
HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR
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Blue Johnspews:
@ 51. You didn’t understand my post. The rich and the super rich don’t need government services, they have the resources and money to pay for all of that without going broke.
You actually supported my idea, by your arguments, that many people will vote and support policies that hurt them and their bottom line rather than give up the dream that they might to become super rich some day.
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lostinaseaofbluespews:
With respect this is a matter of point of view.
We would protect oversees interests regardless. It’s merely an unsupported claim that we do so to protect the plutocrats possessions overseas. And I note you write ‘non entitlement,’ which of course leaves entitlement spending largely benefitting the wealthy? Don’t think so.
Public education benefits everyone equally, rich or poor. In fact a motivated lower class student who takes advantage of all that’s offered can become wealthy themselves, if that’s their taste. If it is a glorified trade school that’s another issue for another debate. It ought to be about creating an educated voting and participating citizenry.
Well off people pay property tax, fees and assesments for development etc. This is a valid point, but these services are paid for by the user by and large.
I’m not sure you couldn’t say that poor people use the courts more for family and custody issues, criminal matters and so on. This is an assertion I imagine you have some grounding in given your past, but I think you see it from one side.
So no Boeing workers benefit from government contracts and spending?
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Max Rockatanskyspews:
@62…a democracy does not entitle the many to take from the few.
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Max Rockatanskyspews:
its no wonder your no longer able to practice law anymore…
“Federal employees earn higher average salaries than private-sector workers in more than eight out of 10 occupations, a USA TODAY analysis of federal data finds.”
Of course, this has been indicated many times before on HA, and each time Roger Rabbit sez “ain’t so” DESPITE all available data including the BLS data. Rabbit, if you got some data – no inventions like that Sparrow NR article – get it posted.
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johnspews:
@66 its no wonder your no longer able to practice law anymore…
Ha! I have an idea Rabbit’s idea of “practicing law” is much different than the WSBA’s!
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Mr. Cynicalspews:
Here it is Obamunism is freefall–
Sunday, March 07, 2010
The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Sunday shows that 24% of the nation’s voters Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as President. Forty-one percent (41%) Strongly Disapprove giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of -17.
The President’s Approval Index rating is -24 among men and -10 among women. His ratings are +35 among Democrats, -68 among Republicans, and -27 among those not affiliated with either major party
Real men Strongly Disapprove of Obam-Mao.
HA Regular Leftists—Strongly Approve.
Look at the unaffiliated.
Many are Tea Partiers.
No one Pelosi is now pander to the Tea Partiers…after insulting & mocking them, of course.
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Roger Rabbitspews:
@64 “And I note you write ‘non entitlement,’ which of course leaves entitlement spending largely benefitting the wealthy?”
Where do you get that from? I didn’t say that, hell I didn’t imply it, either. That’s solely your extrapolation; and the certitude evidenced by your insertion of the phrase “of course” tells the whole story of how your intellectual process operates.
Your interpretation is actually the reverse of what I said. I inserted the phrase “non-entitlement spending” precisely because Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid — the largest chunks of the federal budget — go mostly to the poor and middle class. That’s why I had to exclude those programs from my statement that federal spending benefits the rich.
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Roger Rabbitspews:
As just one example of how federal spending benefits the rich, the bulk of money spent on agricultural subsidies goes to large corporate farms, not family farmers. As another example, federal contracts for building highways, bridges, dams, and levees put large sums of money in the pockets of wealthy contractors. Further, if you look into it, you’ll find that taxpayers spend five times as much on corporate welfare as they do helping their fellow citizens.
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Roger Rabbitspews:
@65 “…a democracy does not entitle the many to take from the few.”
More commonly, it gets hijacked by the few to take from the many.
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Roger Rabbitspews:
@65 (continued) But in point of fact and law, democracy means majority rule, and within limitations, those representing the majority do have the legal right and practical ability to decide how much the citizenry will be taxed to support public spending, how that tax burden will be apportioned, and for what purposes the money will be spent. Under our political system, you can bitch about taxes all you want, but if you don’t pay the taxes imposed by law, you go to jail. And if you fly an airplane into a government building because you don’t like paying taxes, you go to the morgue. I still don’t see how that guy figured he’d come out ahead by killing himself.
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Roger Rabbitspews:
Unfortunately, we’re seeing a disturbing trend of people who increasingly think they don’t have to pay taxes or comply with laws they disagree with, and worse, are increasingly brandishing guns in public and talking about overthrowing a government that was duly elected by the majority of our citizens because they disagree with it. This is a recipe for civil war. The last time our country went through that horror — over a conflict about the “right” claimed by some people to “own” other people for the purpose of extracting their labor by force — half a million people died and it took a century to heal the social wounds. Hell, they’re still not healed. Why would anyone want to subject more generations of Americans to that nightmare? People who think and talk like that are traitors and sociopaths. They belong in mental institutions.
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Roger Rabbitspews:
Looking back across the long reach of America’s history, I don’t see any socially constructive contribution by cheap labor conservatives over that time. They’ve been a source of evil and suffering.
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Roger Rabbitspews:
@69 “after insulting & mocking them”
Those ignorant fucks deserve to be insulted and mocked. I’ve had a bellyful of redneck government. No more.
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ArtFartspews:
@3
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Gmanspews:
@77 ?
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Max Rockatanskyspews:
@74…that must be similar to the disturbing trend of more and more people thinking they deserve more and more things without working for them.
to paraphrase: “when obama is president, I wont have to pay for gas, pay for food, or pay my mortgage”….
or people that think they deserve “free” healthcare….like there is such a thing.
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Mr. Cynicalspews:
proud lunatic @ 37
Obama is a fine man, yet you are incapable of recognizing anything good about him. Have I ever told you that you have absolutely no credibility on any issue (other than perhaps certain matters pertaining to goats)?
Why would you of all people lecture me about Obam-Mao’s mysterious quality’s which no one ever sees…and then, even worse, kill your point with a comment about goats??
Something is wrong with you.
Go to your Lutheran Reverend Dad and ask for help.
Would your dad post a comment like you just did??
If he is a pastor…no way.
You learned nothing pl.
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lostinaseaofbluespews:
Re 70
Sorry Rabbit, that was an apparently inefective attempt at irony.
My point was the same one you made, that entitlement spending helps the lower middle and lower classes more than the wealthy, and is a fair chunk of the federal budget.
I still maintain that if fairness is the goal, taxing the wealthy at the same percentage of income as the poor is the only way to go. It would put a lot of attorneys and accountants into honest lines of work, but that’s unlikely to cause anyone much grief.
Speaking of which- What do you call a corrupt attorney? Senator.
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Max Rockatanskyspews:
@81
Lost spews: Speaking of which- What do you call a corrupt attorney? Senator.
or perhaps, “retired”?? hhmmmm…..
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Mr. Cynicalspews:
Obam-Mao continues to tank along with Obam-Mao-Care!!
Monday, March 08, 2010
The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Monday shows that 22% of the nation’s voters Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as President. Forty-one percent (41%) Strongly Disapprove giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of -19.
Forty-two percent (42%) favor the President’s health care plan while 53% are opposed. Most believe passage of the plan will increase the cost of health care. Fifty-five percent (55%) say that Congress should scrap the current health care legislation and start over
22% Strong Approval? His worst ever.
Even the orchestrated Health Care Summit where Obam-Mao pledged to listen…and then talked more than all the Republicans combined…didn’t help.
Well, you and the Democrats have been in charge now for over a year and not one banking regulation has been reinstated. We don’t have universal health care. The war in Afghanistan has escalated. And tens of thousands of Americans continue to lose their jobs and be thrown out of their homes. For most of us, it’s just simply no longer good enough that Bush is gone. Woo hoo. Bush is gone. Yippee. That hasn’t created one new friggin’ job.
[Blah blah blah]
Let me be clear about one thing: The Democrats on Election Day 2010 are going to get an ass-whoopin’ of biblical proportions if things don’t change right now. And after the new Republican majority takes over, they, along with a few conservative Democrats in Congress, will get to bipartisanly impeach you for being a socialist and a citizen of Kenya. How nice to see both sides of the aisle working together again!
And the brief window we had to fix this country will be gone.
Damn, once again, he’s nailed it.
Read the article, what do you think?
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Puddybud is Sad my friend diedspews:
The Democrats on Election Day 2010 are going to get an ass-whoopin’ of biblical proportions if things don’t change right now.
Somehow GBS disagrees with Michael Moore. So who do you trust.
One side – Michael Moore Other side – GBS
HMMMMMMM…?
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Puddybud is Sad my friend diedspews:
How come Pittsburgh Steeler Qtrback Ben R gets a pass? If a black player did this you’d see every sportscaster talking about it.
proud leftist spews:
Dammit. Rachel, my best to you.
Roger Rabbit spews:
Soldiers of God
Sheriff Larry Deen of Bossier Parish, Louisiana, has raised a 200-man militia he calls “Operation Exodus” to display “an overwhelming show of force prior to” natural disasters and “homegrown terrorists.” The force has no women and is 97.5% white.
Sheriff Deen, a leader of a group called Cops for Christ, says on the sheriff’s office website that he “answers to his God and to the citizens he serves.” In a press release, he said the name “Operation Exodus” came from Bible, and described the militia to a newspaper as a “calling.”
AOL News says, “Weapons such as .50-caliber machine guns purchased by the sheriff’s department are at the group’s disposal” and Deen “will also make shotguns, riot shields and batons available to the members of Operation Exodus.”
http://www.aolnews.com/nation/.....p/19385750
Gman spews:
Heterosexuals – 4
Homosexuals – 0
http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/.....tml?hpt=T2
http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/.....=allsearch
Gman spews:
Heterosexuals – 5
Homosexuals – 0
http://www.ajc.com/news/nation.....47844.html
Michael spews:
It’s a beatiful morning in Spokane and I’m headed out for a hike. Life is good.
Roger Rabbit spews:
A Texas judge has ruled the death penalty is unconstitutional because he assumes innocent people have been executed.
http://seattletimes.nwsource.c.....xas06.html
Roger Rabbit Commentary: As the judge correctly points out, numerous death row inmates across the nation have been released after being exonerated by DNA evidence, even as Republicans have sought to slam courthouse doors shut on death penalty appeals based on claims of innocence. To date, there is no proof that an innocent person has been executed, but a leading candidate is the Texas case of Cameron Todd Willingham, who was executed in 2004 for allegedly setting a house fire that killed his three children. National arson experts have characterized the fire as accidental and the investigation and prosecution as sloppy and incompetent. Recently, Texas GOP Gov. Rick Perry fired the members of a state commission that is reviewing the case and replaced them with his cronies to prevent a finding that Willingham was innocent, which would be politically embarrassing for Perry as he refused to read a report criticizing the trial and calling Willingham’s guilt into question only hours before he refused to stop the execution.
Roger Rabbit spews:
Las Vegas police detain Muslims for praying.
http://seattletimes.nwsource.c.....slims.html
Roger Rabbit Commentary: The ignorance of these cops is exceeded by that of the anti-Muslim posters in the article’s comment thread.
Roger Rabbit spews:
The Seattle Times editorial board, true to form, offers a “budget compromise” that bashes state employees and the unemployable poor.
http://seattletimes.nwsource.c.....udget.html
czechsaaz spews:
84% of house Republicans in support of BDSM by school personnel on students!
Or words to that effect.
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2010/roll082.xml
Puddybud is Sad my friend died spews:
THE DUMB BUNNY@6,
Of course no DUMMOCRAPTIC prosecutor has ever done that right THE DUMB BUNNY? Please say no THE DUMB BUNNY!
RUFUS spews:
hahahahaha
You donks just can’t win. The recent lefty terrorism is just a prelude to what is going to happen when conservatives take over congress in 2010 and then finally the presidency in 2012. You guys should really use illegals to do your dirty work rather than the few registered moonbats that have been in the news lately. Just a hint. hehehehehehe
k spews:
Democrats most certainly have participated in the execution of innocents. Does that mean since both sides did it, it’s OK? You have used that reasoning before, but in life or death?
Other than the “if you kill them they won’t do it again” arguement, the death penalty is not a deterrent. Remember Ted Bundy went to a state with the death penalty. Crimes of passion do not have the sort of weighing of consequences which include considering the likilhood of being caught and convicted. And you can get the same assurance they won’t do it again with life without parole.
Please don’t tell me you favor state executions because they are cheaper.
YLB spews:
Poor Doofus. Typical right winger, always projecting.
You lost in 2005, 2006 and 2008.. and you said the same old bullshit back then…
You’re a compulsive loser doofus… Sure sucks to be you coprophagous cur.
By the way, Rachel’s tv segment was pretty good. Makes good fun of right wing paranoia, fear-mongering and stupidity…
YLB spews:
I highly recommend Google’s chrome browser on Linux..
It’s fast!
Mr. Cynical spews:
Puddy-
As the KLOWNS of the People’s Socialist Republic of Seattle continue their circlejerk about how wonderful the I-man Obam-Mao is…the rest of America awakens!
Saturday, March 06, 2010
The question about who do you trust on the economy is a massive reversal from a year ago. The Progressives have blown it. It’s the economy stupes!!
While Obam-Mao tells us he is focused on jobs..he continues to make Health Care and HIMSELF…his top priority.
What kind of Christian Leader uses the word “I” as much as Obam-Mao has???
Answer–No one.
By his actions and his self-focus, we see a man who puts his own PRIDE above the welfare of the American people and our kids future.
YLB spews:
This is hilarious..
A Republican runs ads on “out of control spending”
FUNDED BY TAXPAYER DOLLARS!
http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpoi.....n.php#more
And these are the guys who voters are supposed to run in droves to this fall??
YLB spews:
You’re referring to your dinner date?
Roger Rabbit spews:
@10 So you think we should just kill people without trials?
Mr. Cynical spews:
The Dummocrats are doing so well on Health Care…here is what Nevada thinks about Crazy Harry’s performance and other assorted moronic blatherings–
Friday, March 05, 2010
Roger Rabbit spews:
@13 Doofus still thinks the Pentagon shooter is a “lefty” because he smoked pot. In fact, as the news media have reported, he was a libertarian, which is a conservative conservative.
Mr. Cynical spews:
And this is a MUST read–
Americans trust Republican’s more than Dummocrats on 8 out of 10 key issues!!
http://www.rasmussenreports.co....._on_issues
Mr. Cynical spews:
Saturday, March 06, 2010
Seems clear I-man Obam-Mao has fallen from his l’il messiahship…taking old Harry Dumba$$ Reid with him!!
Roger Rabbit spews:
KOMO Reports Jailhouse Confession Exonerates Knox
Under a headline screaming “Stunning Revelation,” KOMO 4 News reports that Rudy Guede, one of three people convicted in an Italian court of the murder of a British student, told a cellmate that Amanda Knox wasn’t even present when the murder occurred.
http://www.komonews.com/news/local/86713882.html
Roger Rabbit Commentary: I didn’t follow the case very much, so I can’t really comment except in general terms. Witness testimony is notoriously unreliable, and most lawyers learn about that in law school. I would hope that any prosecutor seeking to send someone away for 26 years would have physical evidence linking the accused to the crime. Italy has a different system for investigating and prosecuting crimes, and I don’t know enough about it to evaluate it. Some questions have been raised about the integrity and competence of the prosecutor in the Knox case. From this distance, I can’t help but wonder whether the whole Italian justice system is polluted by politics or corruption; that seems like a possibility. This jailhouse confession may be nothing more than another inmate angling for favors — after all, people in jails aren’t the most reliable witnesses. In any event, we probably haven’t heard the last of the Knox case. My guess is the wheels in Italy will grind slowly, and guilty or innocent, she’ll likely be back in the States within a few years.
Roger Rabbit spews:
Everybody: Skip #15, it has no content.
Roger Rabbit spews:
@16 Let’s not forget that when Republicans ran Congress the prison bus made regular stops there.
Roger Rabbit spews:
@15 “It’s the economy stupes!!”
Yes, it is. And the majority of voters know whose fault the economic collapse is. That’s why the GOP lost the House, Senate, and White House.
But what’s truly amazing is that conservatives have learned absolutely nothing in the last 80 years. Some of them still want to put the U.S. back on the gold standard, even though that was the #1 cause of the Great Depression. They’re angry because Bush and Obama didn’t let the banks fail, another major cause of the Great Depression. They’re worried about deficits instead of deflation, even though there is no inflation and economic indicators still show dangerous deflationary signs. They’re against programs like FDIC and Social Security that provide critical anti-depression insurance for the economy. It’s almost as if these people want another Great Depression. Heaven knows why. Maybe they enjoy seeing people suffer.
Roger Rabbit spews:
@22 “Seems clear I-man Obam-Mao has fallen from his l’il messiahship…”
Yeah, a lot of independents and Democrats are disgusted with him for being weak instead of more aggressive in stomping on Republican obstructionists.
Michael spews:
#11
Is obviously referring to Leon Czolgosz.
I had a nice little romp out at Mt. St. Michael. Checking up on a few things and then it’s back out in sunshine for me.
Michael spews:
@14
Chrome runs faster than Safari for me. I still like Safari better though.
Mr. Cynical spews:
I-Man Obam-Mao appoints his BOSS to the Deficit Reduction Committee!!
Hey, at least the I-Man is now upfront about who is in charge…the government workers!
What a sick joke.
Mr. Cynical spews:
I-Man Obam-Mao!!! If there is one thing Obama knows, that is the word “I”. Someone actually counted how many times he referred to himself in the first person (132 times) while shoveling it up in Ohio last week in a speech, on who else, I!!!
The video is telling-
What an arrogant f—!
Must be all about his father deserting him and the bastard child syndrome.
http://www.holeinthehull.com/2.....video.html
Puddybud is Sad my friend died spews:
K postulates
Surely you are directing that comment at THE DUMB BUNNY!
YLB spews:
A losertarian is a Republican that smokes pot.
And y’all know who originated the “losertarian” moniker, don’t you??
Puddybud is Sad my friend died spews:
THE DUMB BUNNY will say anything now a days even though the facts point otherwise…
Roger Rabbit spews:
Roger Rabbit Quiz
Roger Rabbit once represented a murderer. That makes Roger …
[ ] 1. Soft on crime
[ ] 2. Liz Cheney’s cousin
[ ] 3. A vegetable-eating rodent
[ ] 4. A lawyer
Puddybud is Sad my friend died spews:
[ ] 1. Soft on crime
[ ] 2. Liz Cheney’s cousin
[ ] 3. A vegetable-eating rodent
[ ] 4. A lawyer
[X] 5. Money grubbing barrister.
proud leftist spews:
Cynny @ 31: “Must be all about his father deserting him and the bastard child syndrome.”
You can differ with Obama on policy matters, but your ceaseless ragging on his character, temperament, and habits discloses your complete inability to ever set aside your raging partisanship. Obama is a fine man, yet you are incapable of recognizing anything good about him. Have I ever told you that you have absolutely no credibility on any issue (other than perhaps certain matters pertaining to goats)?
Roger Rabbit spews:
@34 Strangest “Democrat” I ever saw …
“A blog … that appears to be authored by Bedell, subscribes to many libertarian beliefs, including, ‘The most basic principle of economic justice is the protection of private property …. Modern governments … consistently and routinely violate the rights of property owners…’ Bedell also complained about the size of the United States government, organized theft by the government of citizen’s personal property, government control of the economy including ‘[T]he constantly expanding regulation of business.’ …
“Bedell’s anti-government views on his blog are also buttressed by his Facebook page, since deleted but image captured, wherein he associated himself as a fan of the libertarian/conservative Ludwig von Mises Institute, Lew Rockwell, and Shelly Roche (a self-described libertarian.) …
“Bedell was described as motivated by a hatred of the federal government ….”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J.....ll#Beliefs
Roger Rabbit spews:
Once again, I wish to apologize to all monkeys, whether flying or earthbound, for my unintentional and inadvertent slandering of their species by calling them a Puddy …
Roger Rabbit spews:
@36 Yes, but don’t you and your ilk worship money grubbers like me? Especially when you get in trouble and need a mouthpiece to fish you out of the can?
Roger Rabbit spews:
@30 Who did you expect him to appoint? One of Bush’s corrupt corporate cronies?
proud leftist spews:
Rabbit
I’ve always found it fascinating that the market-worshipping, capitalism-loving crowd faults no one but lawyers for wanting to make money. They proclaim the desire to make money as a fundamental value unless, of course, you are a lawyer. Naturally, expecting consistency from our wingnut friends is a vain endeavor.
Roger Rabbit spews:
Conservative Lawyers Blast Liz Cheney Ad
“(March 6) — Left-leaning politicos aren’t the only ones criticizing an attack ad launched by … the organization co-founded by Liz Cheney ….
“Conservative legal minds, including officials who served in the Bush administration, are also condemning the ad ….
“John Bellinger III, who served as a legal adviser to former Secretary of State Condoleeza Rice, expressed his disapproval in a statement to The American Prospect. ‘I think it’s unfortunate that these individuals are being criticized for their past representation …,’ he said. … ‘We’ve had a long-standing tradition in our country for lawyers to represent unpopular causes, and they shouldn’t be attacked for doing so.’
“Bellinger’s statement was echoed by another Bush-era Justice Department official, former assistant attorney general for the civil division, Peter D. Keisler, who told The New York Times it was simply ‘wrong’ for Cheney’s group to judge lawyers for their past detainee work. ‘There is a longstanding and very honorable tradition of lawyers representing unpopular or controversial clients,’ Keisler said. “The fact that someone has acted within that tradition … should never be a basis for suggesting that they are unfit in any way ….’
“In a post titled ‘An Attack That Goes Too Far,’ Paul Mirengoff, a lawyer and writer for Power Line, a conservative blog, said it was … ‘false’ to … imply they share the values of terrorists. … ‘I would not deserve to have a law license if my personal views … caused me to launch vicious, unfounded attacks on lawyers who … represent despicable clients.”
http://www.aolnews.com/politic.....webmaildl1
Roger Rabbit Commentary: Liz Cheney made an egregious rookie mistake by conflating lawyers with the clients they represent. The entire American legal profession, regardless of political orientation or party affiliation, disagrees with her. She should pull the ad and issue a public apology to the lawyers she slandered.
Roger Rabbit spews:
@42 When you look at who’s the first to go running to the ACLU for free representation, it’s obvious what’s going on here. Have you ever met anyone who didn’t want free legal advice? Even Lincoln must have faced this problem, or he wouldn’t have had any reason to say, “A lawyer’s time and advice are his stock in trade.”
Puddybud is Sad my friend died spews:
You should apologize to all rabbits because you are THE DUMB BUNNY. Even Bugs would make fun of you.
Ekim spews:
Cyn’s posts are becoming increasingly more shrill with a very low information to noise ratio. Still, if you look closely enough, you can pick out parts of his posts that touch on both delusion and psychosis.
But what could be causing his psychosis? It could be he suffers from a hereditary disease, possibly strengthened by a family tree that does not branch. Alternatively Syphilis is known to cause mental disorders. He could have possibly picked Syph up from his pet goats or maybe from a family member. Or he could just be he is watching too much Glenn Beck and actually believing what Beck is saying as truth.
Whatever the reason, MrC has earned the title of Mr. Psycho.
Blue John spews:
@26
I think too many people would rather fight tooth and nail for tax cuts for the super rich, with the improbably dream of being super rich some day themselves, than admit to themselves they are poor.
Blue John spews:
I think that’s why one segement of the population hates Democrats and Al Gore. They are telling Americans “NO, you can’t have it all.” Democrats tell us that we need to fear climate change and need public heath care and public social security and to pay taxes because we cannot all be super rich. If you were filthy rich, you don’t need those programs, you can pay for everything from the change bucket at the end of the hall. Only losers, the poor need social programs. To want those programs, means you accept that you may not be filthy rich.
proud leftist spews:
Ekim
I, too, am becoming increasingly concerned about Cynny’s mental health. His connection to reality appears to be more and more tenuous. We just see rants now, capital letters, and incomprehensible jibberish. His only gospel now is the daily Rasmussen poll. He doesn’t seem to understand that polls should not dictate public policy. I care so much for him and his well-being, so it is quite traumatizing for me to have to watch his downward spiral. I will pray for him.
Bugs Bunny spews:
Who authorized you to speak for me, dumbass?
lostinaseaofblue spews:
Re Blue John
The wealthy don’t use more government services than the poor, less in fact.
The wealthy pay already a share of the tax burden disproportionate to their share of collective income.
The wealthy aid in job creation when they buy stuff, build stuff, or innovate. As such they actually create an additional layer of taxable income with these jobs, effectively cancelling out whatever services they do use.
I can’t speak for any conservatives but myself. Nonetheless, I can’t agree with your conclusion. I know very wealthy people who are happy and some who are miserable. Money doesn’t make the difference here, and I know it and have no desire to be super rich.
For me it’s an issue of fairness. If you ask the wealthy to pay the same percent of their income as their less fortunate fellow taxpayers I have no problems. If you ask them to carry the financial burden of government for everyone else I do.
lostinaseaofblue spews:
Re Blue John
The wealthy don’t use more government services than the poor, less in fact.
The wealthy pay already a share of the tax burden disproportionate to their share of collective income.
The wealthy aid in job creation when they buy stuff, build stuff, or innovate. As such they actually create an additional layer of taxable income with these jobs, effectively cancelling out whatever services they do use.
I can’t speak for any conservatives but myself. Nonetheless, I can’t agree with your conclusion. I know very wealthy people who are happy and some who are miserable. Money doesn’t make the difference here, and I know it and have no desire to be super rich.
For me it’s an issue of fairness. If you ask the wealthy to pay the same percent of their income as their less fortunate fellow taxpayers I have no problems. If you ask them to carry the financial burden of government for everyone else I do.
Fiscally this holds up as well. Private sector money is productive money. Public sector is neutral at best, growth prohibitive at worst.
lostinaseaofblue spews:
Sorry about the double. I hate Internet Expolorer.
lostinaseaofblue spews:
As for the video, I think the presentation of Maddows point consintent with her low quality of journalism.
Unfortunately and for once I have to agree with her. An attorney representing a murderer is sanctioning murder. He or she is playing an essential role in our criminal justice system.
Roger Rabbit spews:
Factoid: $500 billion of the $1.6 trillion deficit — nearly a third — went for financial assistance to states.
Factoid: General fund spending of all 50 states totaled $664 billion in 2009.
Factoid: Budget shortfalls of all 50 states for 2010 total $108.7 or about 16% of 2009 spending.
Factoid: States are plugging their budget gaps with twice as many spending cuts as tax increases ($55.7 billion versus $23.9 billion).
Factoid: The states with the largest budget shortfalls are California (49%), Illinois (47%), Arizona (41%), Nevada (37%), New York (32%), Alaska (30%), and New Jersey (29%). Four of these states have Republican governors and two have Democratic governors.
Factoid: The states with budget shortfalls under 5% are Arkansas, Nebraska, South Dakota, West Virginia, and Wyoming; the states with no budget shortfalls are Montana and North Dakota. Four of these states have Democratic govenors and three have Republican governors.
Sources: Barron’s magazine, March. 8, 2010, p. 47 (financial data); Wikipedia (list of governors).
Roger Rabbit Commentary: Three things stand out: (1) 48 states have budget shortfalls; the two that don’t receive large oil and gas royalties. (2) Legislatures are using spending cuts more than tax increase to close budget gaps by a factor of 2:1. (3) States with Republican governors are not more fiscally responsible.
Max Rockatansky spews:
255…sounds to me like 48 states need to cut their spending.
Roger Rabbit spews:
@51 “The wealthy don’t use more government services than the poor, less in fact.”
What’s your source for this?
The largest non-entitlement component of the federal budget is defense, which pays for (among other things) protecting overseases U.S. business interests and assets, which are predominantly owned by the wealthy.
Public education, from kindergarten through college, that trains the workforce is a gigantic subsidy for businesses needing skilled workers. Wealthy people are the principal owners of these businesses.
Wealthy people tend to use more government services because they own more property, do more development, and their businesses need government services.
Wealthy people use the courts more because they have a vast slew of commercial matters in litigation.
Wealthy people benefit from government contracts and spending.
This is only a very partial list.
Max Rockatansky spews:
lets make everyone the same. We can call it the United States of Lazy Mediocrity.
you know we are fucked when a large group of people decide they need free shit, at the expense of the few at the top.
the problem is, with the amount of free stuff that is being asked for by the “less than motivated”(see YLB), it means not only are the rich paying for them, but us schmucks in the middle class get to pay for them too.
This is why we MUST, as a nation, see to it that EVERYONE pays the same tax rate – no exceptions. no deductions, no sales tax, no property tax, no phone tax, no condom tax, no tobacco tax, no booze tax. Just ONE flat rate income tax that we all pay – period.
Roger Rabbit spews:
@58 Oh yeah, the rich get their money by working for it, yeah sure! A hedge fund manager who makes $500 million a year works 20,000 times as many hours as a janitor making $25,000 a year! No wait, he works 20,000 times as fast as the janitor! No wait, he’s 20,000 times as valuable as the janitor, even though his investors lost their shirts last year! No wait …
Roger Rabbit spews:
@58 So taxing estates redistributes money for hardworking heirs to lazy middle-class workers? I thought so!
HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR
Roger Rabbit spews:
Wingnuts love to bitch about taxes they don’t pay!
% of income paid to state by richest: 3%
% of income paid to state by poorest: 17%
Source: Gates Commission Report
Roger Rabbit spews:
@58 “you know we are fucked when a large group of people decide they need free shit, at the expense of the few at the top”
Then I guess you’re fucked, pal, because you live in what’s known as a “democracy”.
HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR
Blue John spews:
@ 51. You didn’t understand my post. The rich and the super rich don’t need government services, they have the resources and money to pay for all of that without going broke.
You actually supported my idea, by your arguments, that many people will vote and support policies that hurt them and their bottom line rather than give up the dream that they might to become super rich some day.
lostinaseaofblue spews:
With respect this is a matter of point of view.
We would protect oversees interests regardless. It’s merely an unsupported claim that we do so to protect the plutocrats possessions overseas. And I note you write ‘non entitlement,’ which of course leaves entitlement spending largely benefitting the wealthy? Don’t think so.
Public education benefits everyone equally, rich or poor. In fact a motivated lower class student who takes advantage of all that’s offered can become wealthy themselves, if that’s their taste. If it is a glorified trade school that’s another issue for another debate. It ought to be about creating an educated voting and participating citizenry.
Well off people pay property tax, fees and assesments for development etc. This is a valid point, but these services are paid for by the user by and large.
I’m not sure you couldn’t say that poor people use the courts more for family and custody issues, criminal matters and so on. This is an assertion I imagine you have some grounding in given your past, but I think you see it from one side.
So no Boeing workers benefit from government contracts and spending?
Max Rockatansky spews:
@62…a democracy does not entitle the many to take from the few.
Max Rockatansky spews:
its no wonder your no longer able to practice law anymore…
Puddybud is Sad my friend died spews:
Oh my another 9/11 Truther…
dave spews:
Federal pay ahead of private industry
“Federal employees earn higher average salaries than private-sector workers in more than eight out of 10 occupations, a USA TODAY analysis of federal data finds.”
http://www.usatoday.com/news/n.....-pay_N.htm
Of course, this has been indicated many times before on HA, and each time Roger Rabbit sez “ain’t so” DESPITE all available data including the BLS data. Rabbit, if you got some data – no inventions like that Sparrow NR article – get it posted.
john spews:
@66 its no wonder your no longer able to practice law anymore…
Ha! I have an idea Rabbit’s idea of “practicing law” is much different than the WSBA’s!
Mr. Cynical spews:
Here it is Obamunism is freefall–
Sunday, March 07, 2010
Real men Strongly Disapprove of Obam-Mao.
HA Regular Leftists—Strongly Approve.
Look at the unaffiliated.
Many are Tea Partiers.
No one Pelosi is now pander to the Tea Partiers…after insulting & mocking them, of course.
Roger Rabbit spews:
@64 “And I note you write ‘non entitlement,’ which of course leaves entitlement spending largely benefitting the wealthy?”
Where do you get that from? I didn’t say that, hell I didn’t imply it, either. That’s solely your extrapolation; and the certitude evidenced by your insertion of the phrase “of course” tells the whole story of how your intellectual process operates.
Your interpretation is actually the reverse of what I said. I inserted the phrase “non-entitlement spending” precisely because Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid — the largest chunks of the federal budget — go mostly to the poor and middle class. That’s why I had to exclude those programs from my statement that federal spending benefits the rich.
Roger Rabbit spews:
As just one example of how federal spending benefits the rich, the bulk of money spent on agricultural subsidies goes to large corporate farms, not family farmers. As another example, federal contracts for building highways, bridges, dams, and levees put large sums of money in the pockets of wealthy contractors. Further, if you look into it, you’ll find that taxpayers spend five times as much on corporate welfare as they do helping their fellow citizens.
Roger Rabbit spews:
@65 “…a democracy does not entitle the many to take from the few.”
More commonly, it gets hijacked by the few to take from the many.
Roger Rabbit spews:
@65 (continued) But in point of fact and law, democracy means majority rule, and within limitations, those representing the majority do have the legal right and practical ability to decide how much the citizenry will be taxed to support public spending, how that tax burden will be apportioned, and for what purposes the money will be spent. Under our political system, you can bitch about taxes all you want, but if you don’t pay the taxes imposed by law, you go to jail. And if you fly an airplane into a government building because you don’t like paying taxes, you go to the morgue. I still don’t see how that guy figured he’d come out ahead by killing himself.
Roger Rabbit spews:
Unfortunately, we’re seeing a disturbing trend of people who increasingly think they don’t have to pay taxes or comply with laws they disagree with, and worse, are increasingly brandishing guns in public and talking about overthrowing a government that was duly elected by the majority of our citizens because they disagree with it. This is a recipe for civil war. The last time our country went through that horror — over a conflict about the “right” claimed by some people to “own” other people for the purpose of extracting their labor by force — half a million people died and it took a century to heal the social wounds. Hell, they’re still not healed. Why would anyone want to subject more generations of Americans to that nightmare? People who think and talk like that are traitors and sociopaths. They belong in mental institutions.
Roger Rabbit spews:
Looking back across the long reach of America’s history, I don’t see any socially constructive contribution by cheap labor conservatives over that time. They’ve been a source of evil and suffering.
Roger Rabbit spews:
@69 “after insulting & mocking them”
Those ignorant fucks deserve to be insulted and mocked. I’ve had a bellyful of redneck government. No more.
ArtFart spews:
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Gman spews:
@77 ?
Max Rockatansky spews:
@74…that must be similar to the disturbing trend of more and more people thinking they deserve more and more things without working for them.
to paraphrase: “when obama is president, I wont have to pay for gas, pay for food, or pay my mortgage”….
or people that think they deserve “free” healthcare….like there is such a thing.
Mr. Cynical spews:
proud lunatic @ 37
Why would you of all people lecture me about Obam-Mao’s mysterious quality’s which no one ever sees…and then, even worse, kill your point with a comment about goats??
Something is wrong with you.
Go to your Lutheran Reverend Dad and ask for help.
Would your dad post a comment like you just did??
If he is a pastor…no way.
You learned nothing pl.
lostinaseaofblue spews:
Re 70
Sorry Rabbit, that was an apparently inefective attempt at irony.
My point was the same one you made, that entitlement spending helps the lower middle and lower classes more than the wealthy, and is a fair chunk of the federal budget.
I still maintain that if fairness is the goal, taxing the wealthy at the same percentage of income as the poor is the only way to go. It would put a lot of attorneys and accountants into honest lines of work, but that’s unlikely to cause anyone much grief.
Speaking of which- What do you call a corrupt attorney? Senator.
Max Rockatansky spews:
@81
Lost spews: Speaking of which- What do you call a corrupt attorney? Senator.
or perhaps, “retired”?? hhmmmm…..
Mr. Cynical spews:
Obam-Mao continues to tank along with Obam-Mao-Care!!
Monday, March 08, 2010
22% Strong Approval? His worst ever.
Even the orchestrated Health Care Summit where Obam-Mao pledged to listen…and then talked more than all the Republicans combined…didn’t help.
Blue John spews:
Holy S. Have you seen Micheal’s Moore’s open letter to Obama?
http://www.michaelmoore.com/wo.....hael-moore
My favorite parts
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Damn, once again, he’s nailed it.
Read the article, what do you think?
Puddybud is Sad my friend died spews:
Somehow GBS disagrees with Michael Moore. So who do you trust.
One side – Michael Moore Other side – GBS
HMMMMMMM…?
Puddybud is Sad my friend died spews:
How come Pittsburgh Steeler Qtrback Ben R gets a pass? If a black player did this you’d see every sportscaster talking about it.