Open thread 4-08-05

Tom DeLay. (That should start things off.)


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    A finger in your ear will stop that whistling spews:

    Imagine, if you will, a poker game…. The players: Dino Rossi, Dean Logan, Sam Reed, Ron Sims, Chris Gregoire and a host of Senators and Representatives, aided by unseen felons, countless deceased, as well as numerous imaginary friends.

    “I win!”
    “Chris, calm down–Sam hasn’t dealt the cards yet.”
    “Oh, Dino, stop being so argumentative! It’s just a game. No biggie.”
    “Just a game?!!! We are playing for the freedoms of an entire state!”
    “That’s what I said, didn’t I? Let’s play!”

    Sam deals the cards.

    “Who goes first?”
    “Me, because I win, right?”
    “Sounds right to me, Chris.”
    “See–I DO win.”
    “Not yet, but soon, okay?”
    “Rats! Okay, Dean, but remember–you promised.”

    Cuckoo! Cuckoo! (The clock strikes.)

    “She’s got a full house–Kings over Aces!”
    “But, Ron, on this ‘King,’ the J is crossed out and the K is written in purple sharpie!”
    “But look at how authoritative that man looks, Dino! He’s clearly intended to be a King. I just enhanced what should be obvious to anyone with good home training!”
    “Oh, I suppose we can allow that in the case of a King, can’t we Sam?”
    “Sorry, Dean, were you saying something?”
    “Never mind, just deal me some more cards.”

    “Hey, that Seven just came out of your sleeve!”
    “No, it didn’t. I pulled it out of my boot–see, there’s an empty spot between the Six and the Eight.”
    “I beg your pardon, Dean. I didn’t mean to question the integrity of a man with such good home training.”

    “Hey Chris, can I borrow that Ace tucked in your tiara? It would complete the flush I’m working on.”
    “Sorry, Ron, I’m saving it for my winning hand. Ask Dean for one; he’s sitting on a stack of ‘em.”

    Cuckoo! Cuckoo!

    “So whose turn is it, Chris?”
    “It’s mine again. Wait your turn.”
    “But what about Dino? He hasn’t played a hand in two rounds!” “That’s because it was my turn. He’s just mad because I’m winning–I am winning right? Isn’t one in three good enough?”

    “Seven Aces?!!”
    “Relax, Dino, three of them are provisional Aces. If you have a problem with that, take it up with my aide. I don’t deal with criticism personally. Besides, you really should have mentioned that before the cards were on the table.”
    “But I didn’t know how you were going to play this game!”
    “That’s how privacy laws work, Dino–to have told you would have been a violation.”
    “And I was only dealt five cards. Maybe we should recount all the cards.”
    “Just play–there will be plenty of recounts, er…I mean time for recounts later.”

    Cuckoo! Cuckoo!

    “Why are you playing two hands, Ron? Sam, do you see that?”
    “I only see one hand, Dino.”
    “It’s okay, Sam, you can see this one. I’m playing on behalf of my uncle.”
    “But didn’t your uncle die a month ago as a citizen of Albania?” “Yes, but this was his dying wish.”
    “Oh. Far be it from me to interfere with the rights of the deceased.”

    “Could I see that card you played face-down?”
    “Nope. Privacy laws. You’ll just have to trust me that it’s a provisional Ace.”
    “Well, why not… Everything else seems to be.”
    “Are you accusing me of cheating? No more than the expected level of bluffing is going on in this game, Dino. Live with it!”

    Cuckoo! Cuckoo!

    “Sam, can you reach over and unplug that darned cuckoo clock? It’s driving me nuts!”
    “What clock, Dino? I don’t hear anything.”
    “It’s right behind you–look! Tell him, Sims!”
    “No, he’s right, he can’t see it.”
    “I thought cuckoo clocks only went off once an hour. That one has done it every three minutes. And the hands run backwards at times.”
    “This is one of those new “Diversity Clocks”. It’s supposed to do that….”
    “Well, it’s 99.8% accurate–or is it 99.98? I can never remember…let’s get back to the scam, er…I mean game!”
    “Yeah, don’t distract me while I’m winning!”

    “Where are all these provisional Aces coming from?”
    “We can’t tell you. That would be a violation of privacy laws.”

    “Okay, boys, show your cards–oh, sorry, Chris…I mean ‘people’. You can put your subpoena away.”
    “Alright, but it’s right here next to this other provisional Ace I just found, in case you say that again.”

    Cuckoo! Cuckoo!

    “Who dropped this King? Dean?”
    “…uh…five, six, seven, eight…no, I have all mine. Must belong to Chris.”
    “It’s mine! I win! I win!”
    “Not yet, Chris….almost.”
    (“Yeah, I think I smell one, too.”) Dino mumbles.
    “Sorry, Dino, did you say something?”
    “Yeah, Sam, I was just….”
    “WELL! It’s my turn again.”
    “Wait. You just had two.”
    “Well, I just found another one! Live with it!”
    “Sounds right to me.”
    Dino groans.
    “Sam, can you certify that?”
    “Never mind. Just say, ‘yes’.”
    “See–I win! I win!”

    Later, after the game is over:

    “Well, I have to say that this has been a model poker game–one that any bank president would be proud of.”
    “I have to agree, Ron–a 99.8% perfect game, overall.”
    “I want to congratulate you all for your honesty and integrity over the course of the game–especially you, Dino. You ran a very strong game and if I had played as strongly as you did, I would have won by a lot more.”

    “Ron, something doesn’t add up here. Where did you learn to play poker?”
    “Dean taught me. I thought it wise to avail myself of his good house-training.”
    “You mean home training? House-training means he doesn’t wet on the carpet.”
    “Didn’t I say that?”
    “Regardless, I don’t think we played that game by the rules. You can’t condone this, can you, Chris?”
    “Don’t worry about it, Dino, you can’t go back and change things in golf, you know.”
    “Uh…we were playing poker, weren’t we? Or was Dean just making up the rules as he went?”
    “Can’t tell you–privacy laws.”

    “I win! I win! …did I win? …Hey! Here’s another one!”

    Anonymous (or is it Unanimous?)

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    jpgee spews:

    funny story finger. quite amusing, like your normal rantings. On Mr DeLay……first Frist backs away from him, and not the Texas Taco contradicts him. Looks like this hack is losing support even with his co-conspirators. LMAO

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    A finger in your ear will stop that whistling spews:

    Okay PJ, I don’t think Tom Delay should be given a free ride. Feel Better? He is wrong and I agree he should go. There, I said it. Now, on the other hand, I think you would agree that delay is good–along with deny, deflect and defame–if you are a democrat.

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    A finger in your ear will stop that whistling spews:

    Oh, and there is nothing NORMAL about my rantings–nyah!

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    Unkl Witz spews:

    Finger (Chris):

    I can’t believe you thought this was written well enough to post on both Sound Politics and HA.

    Talk about chutzpa…….

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    WhyareyouPROUDtobeAnASS? spews:

    open thread?

    How about Pink Bricks?

    The sort Sen. Feinstein received recently:

    Feinstein Wins Prize for Comments on Gays;cset=true
    Organizers of the gay pride parade held in the city every June announced Thursday that Feinstein was the winner of this year’s “Pink Brick” award, a dubious honor bestowed on the public figure a San Francisco group decides has done the most to damage the gay rights cause.

    Well, huh! And here I thought the libs were the sensitive ones! Who knew?

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    WhyareyouPROUDtobeAnASS? spews:, the left-wing activist group leading the fight against Rep. Tom DeLay, has claimed there is a Republican clamor to replace him as House majority leader that does not actually exist.

    “Now,” said an e-mail dispatched by MoveOn, “some Republicans in Congress are speaking out against DeLay.” In fact, however, no Republican in Congress has criticized DeLay publicly, not even on an off-the-record basis.

    The e-mail also declares unequivocally that “DeLay illegally used corporate funds in support of his plan to redistrict Texas.” Actually, DeLay has not been convicted, tried or even formally accused of breaking the law.

    I’m pretty sure this all falls into that convenient ‘let’s not let facts get in the way of our fun little lynching’ category

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    WhyareyouPROUDtobeAnASS? spews:

    ‘Get Tom Delay!’ — A New York Times crusade
    Rich Lowry

    A few excerpted tidbits:

    The Times just ran a front-page article reporting that DeLay’s wife and daughter receive payments from his political operations. This story might have been news if it hadn’t been known for years and been the subject of a detailed report in the Capitol Hill newspaper Roll Call on May 5, 2003

    The independent ethics groups that have been decrying DeLay’s practices, such as Democracy 21 and Common Cause, are allies in this partisan push. Their contributors are hyper-Democrats like George Soros, and their staffers are often former Democratic politicos. They identify ethical government with Democratic government, and get the cooperation of the press, which would have no use for DeLay even if he were the reincarnation of Mr. Smith. This is why House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi can secure a federal grant for a nonprofit that contributes to her political action committee, as The Washington Times recently reported, and the story barely causes a ripple, let alone gets recycled every 39 days.

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    A finger in your ear will stop that whistling spews:

    Unkl witless, so far I haven’t seen you even try, so why are you crabbing at me? Typical intolerant lib.

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    A finger in your ear will stop that whistling spews:

    I guess your next remark will be something akin to “I know you are, but what am I?” Don’t bother.

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    Danw spews:

    Tom Delay is in trouble, but I think he had some good Ideas for us here in Washington.

    since this is an open thread, and Goldy has given us permission to talk about anything. He’s not forceing his Liberal views on us I guess I can say something nice about the former Bug exterminator.
    Why don’t we do a little redistricting here in Washington?
    It passed judicial muster in Texas, when they did it in an off year.
    It even skated around Gerrymandering rules.
    We have the congress, Gov. and of course those liberal judges, hell we might as well put them to use.

    I am thinking Parts of Bellevue, could be split up into a few smaller chunks, except for one large chunk.
    This shouldn’t be so hard, heck we can even take one greenlake House and put it on Capitol Hill.
    Goldy we will put him in Pasco…just to mess with him.

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    WhyareyouPROUDtobeAnASS? spews:

    The only true redistricting we need here is a great big secession from King County.

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    jsa on beacon hill spews:

    WhyareyouPROUDtobeAnASS @ several,

    That’s nice, but this is not North Korea, and I don’t see any socialists here.

    It’s 2005, not 1955. Capitalism won. I know, it’s hard to believe. Even the old commies say things like 不管百貓黑貓,抓到老鼠就是好貓 (“It doesn’t matter if the cat is black or white, if it catches mice, it’s a good cat.” – thus spake lifelong socialist Deng Xiaoping)

    [If the Chinese part of the line looks like gibberish, install Asian fonts on your machine. Learning Chinese might also help. If the English looks like gibberish, step away from your computer, pick up a book, and work on your sense of allegory]

    Isn’t it fun to paint with broad brushes. Yeah! All you Democrats really want to make the country like North Korea! (errr, no actually. You see, I like not starving, going out for cultural events that do stuff besides extoll the virtues of the Dear Leader, and the occasional shopping trip to Europe).

    While we’re painting with broad brush strokes, let me posit that Republicans want to turn the country into the Philippines. Twelve old families run the place and divvy up all the money like they’ve done for the past 300 years. 10% of the country lives in gated compounds behind barbed wire and armed guards to protect themselves from the undying love given by the other 90% of the country. God Bless Free Enterprise.


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    jpgee spews:

    I am very surprised that no one has mentioned the soldier from Pasco. He originally enlisted in the army and has fulfilled his 8 years of service. But our dear ‘warmongerers’ have decided that they need him until 2031!!!!!! What happened to the ‘abolition of slavery’? is all I want to ask the neocons who post here!!!!!!

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    A finger in your ear will stop that whistling spews:

    Good ones, Proud, but you won’t get a hurrah from these clowns. They are too busy ignoring reason, thinking of their next insult, side-stepping logic….

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    A finger in your ear will stop that whistling spews:

    Neocon? Naw, I’m more of a trditional conservative, though you might be a true Neo_CON!

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    marks spews:

    A good article by David Brooks of the NYT

    ”Conversations with House Republicans in the past week leave me with one clear impression: If DeLay falls, it will not be because he took questionable trips or put family members on the payroll. It will be because he is anxiety-producing and may become a political liability.”

    The Newt scenario for Delay seems to be playing out here. I do not know if Delay can rehab his image. Maybe that is what he needs to do, check into the Betty Ford Clinic…

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    A finger in your ear will stop that whistling spews:

    Hey, I just found some more ballots! Anyone want some?

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    A finger in your ear will stop that whistling spews:

    Take a chill pill, PJ’s. Ever hear of a paperwork foul-up? Could be that or could be that it is standard procedure until they revise it down the road a bit–is it widespread? And while we are on the subject of slavery–won’t it be awful when those poor little old ladies can’t be scared anymore with threats of taking away their SS if they don’t pay homage to the right party (excuse me, I mean LEFT party). Talk about slavery!

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    jpgee spews:

    I have always felt that you can change a countries ‘ideals’ only with help in education and infrastructure. An educated Iraq will see the possibilities that they posess as a nation. An uneducated Iraq will always have an abundance of ‘terrorists’. Why does the Texas Taco think that by building the largest embassy in the world, and building 12 new military bases in their ‘sovereign soil’ that he can help change it? If we, as the USA, were to help with basic needs, education and infrastructure I do believe the Iraqi’s would understand the ‘meaning of the 21st century’ and would happily be on their way to becoming a true democracy. But with ‘invasionist’ monuments at every corner, they will always hold tremendous ‘hatred’ for the USA. Just my humble opinion.

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    jpgee spews:

    another tidbit, if the Texas Taco was the leader of any other world power, he would already be under indictment for ‘war crimes’ and crimes against HUMANITY. But, as we are the ‘Number 1′ (in our eyes) he will never be held accountable for his devastating actions.

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    Mr. Cynical spews:

    I’ve enjoyed a week of California sunshine. A week away from some of the LEFTIST nitwits, halfwits and witless pricks is necessary for those of us who are RIGHT. I see you pinheads continue to be in denial of what Dean Logan (aka Weird Al Jankovic lookalike) has done to this election.

    Logan should have taken my advice and admitted he was MIA in making sure KingCo Elections was properly run. Logan (aka Weird Al) just continued to dig and dig…and be used more and more by Ron Sims until voila……..the errors and negligence in his department is so one can defend what he did except the extreme LEFTIST WingNuts here.

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    jpgee spews:

    too bad cynicalidiot, it has been a very decent pit without you and your stupiditiesl. Go back to calif. I am sure that you fit in better there with the Terminator…….Idiot, should be capitalized. A little respect for the senior citizens…even if they are idiotic

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    Mr. Cynical spews:

    “Weird Al lookalike” Logan looks somewhat sane compared to you.
    LEFTIST pinheads cannot stop tripping over themselves on this election contest. It’s hysterical. They keep babbling and babbling excuse after excuse until it’s incoherent.
    jpgee-you are so funny..I can’t understand a thing you say…it’s kind of like you are talking but your tongue is too big for your pinhead!!!!!!!

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    Dubyasux spews:

    Josef @ 2

    Now we’re making some progress! If only real Republicans would step back, take a deep breath, open their eyes, and see what their party has become — and do something about it. Today’s GOP not only isn’t a mainstream party, it’s not even a conservative party. DeLay is a scumbag who has to go — preferably to stir — but the GOP’s problems are much deeper than one corrupt congressman. It’s a party dominated by big-government, interventionist, fiscally reckless, socially divisive demagogues whose principal goal seems to be looting the middle class. Neocons aren’t conservatives at all but recycled 1960s totalitarians who flipped from far-left to far-right simply fascism pays better. The GOP has become what the Democratic Party was in danger of becoming in the 1970s — a party taken over by its fringe elements that ultimately will become marginalized if it doesn’t recognize its error and change its ways.

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    Dubyasux spews:

    stick in ear @ 3

    Next time try writing it in 200 words and I might read it. I don’t have time for this.

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    Mr. Cynical spews:

    You don’t have time???
    You are living off a guv’mint pension and your wife works…and you don’t have time???
    Try again loser.

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    Dubyasux spews:

    stick in ear @ 5

    That’s much better, succinct-wise! There’s no denying it’s to the Democrats’ advantage for Rossi’s lawsuit to take a while, as with passage of time the public gets used to “Governor Gregoire” and loses interest in the election controversy. But lawsuits by nature take time; lawyers need that time to conduct discovery, review evidence, and present the case. A rushed trial can’t be a fair trial, and will be reversed verdict on appeal, ultimately resulting in more delay. In the law, as elsewhere, haste makes waste.

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    Dubyasux spews:

    Ass @ 10

    So who’s for socialism? When are you rightys going to get enough education to understand Democrats are capitalists? Or are you willfully stupid? Or maybe it’s just a good bumper sticker slogan so you lie about it.

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    Dubyasux spews:

    Ass @ 11

    What’s so hard to understand about the presumed-guilty-until-proved-innocent approach? You guys do it every day. However, I’ll stick with innocent-until-proved-guilty, and I’m willing to wait until he’s indicted and put on trial, then hear what tune you sing then.

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    Dubyasux spews:

    jpgee @ 21

    The administration shot itself in the balls with this one. The volunteer army is about to evaporate. Who the hell will enlist if they can’t get out for 30 years?

    Now the Shrub — himself a military poseur — has brought the Tsarist army to America. Is this their plan for subduing a restive populace, drafting dissenters into the army for life — and periodically conducting training exercises with live ammunition to assure a steady supply of openings in the ranks?

    They keep insisting we won’t have a draft. Recent news reports indicate enlistments are dropping almost as fast as Bush’s approval ratings. What will they do when recruiting goes into free fall? Ghetto kids may be uneducated, but they’re not stupid, and word travels fast on the street. Now the word is out: No matter what the enlistment papers say, if you sign, you’re in for life. And they’re going to say no thanks.

    But maybe it’s a good thing. If we don’t have an army, it’ll be that much tougher for Bush to pursue the neocons’ imperialist ambitions.

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    Dubyasux spews:

    stick in ear @ 3

    If it weren’t for that empty space between your ears the wind is whistling through, you would have realized by now that conservatives are being conned by the neos.

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    Dubyasux spews:

    stick in ear @ 26

    Yes, it’s widespread. To date, thousands of military personnel have been held in service past the expiration of their enlistments. A few thousand may be relatively small compared to the overall size of the military services, but it’s still thousands. A number of retired officers — including some in their fifties — have been recalled to active service. Well, that might not be altogether unfair, because officers know this can happen when they accept their commissions and they have the option to resign their commissions. It’s a different deal altogether when a naive young kid hoping to better himself enlists to do the grunt work in exchange for some training and educational benefits — and discovers the government can make him spend the rest of his life in the army if it feels like it. That wasn’t part of the deal, and it’s going to be a deal-breaker for enlistees. Recruiting was already falling short of goals because of the onerous deployments and the dangers of Iraq, but this one court ruling — no matter how isolated it may prove to be in fact — will be devastating to recruiting.

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    Don is an even bigger indoctrinated tool spews:

    Donnysux @ all

    There is a Mark Twain quote that fits you very well, “It is better to keep your mouth shut…”
    Why don’t you research it, if you have time that is.

    Here is a lesson from Twain for all you Dems like donny boy, “We all do no end of feeling, and we mistake it for thinking.”

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    Dubyasux spews:

    cynical @ 29

    Hmmm, interesting that Mr. Cynical’s vacation coincided with Dean Logan’s. Frankly I suspect Sims told Logan to make himself scarce for a while, and I also have a theory about Mr. Cynical, who claims to be a CPA.

    For some time, I’ve wondered how an accountant can spend so much time blogging on HA. What do you guys think of this? Suppose — just suppose — Mr. Cynical has only 1 client, and that client is BIAW. Now let’s suppose further that when you keep BIAW’s books, detailed records of cash flow is not a desired goal, and Mr. Cynical is getting paid to look the other way, produce blank ledger pages, and spend most of his time propagandizing for causes favored by the guy signing his paychecks, Tom McCabe.

    It’s just a theory, but do any pieces fall into place here?

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    chardonnay spews:

    please list all Delay’s crimes. when your done, list Barney Franks, Teddy Murderer Kennedy, Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi and Hillary Clinton.
    ok here I’ll start, Barney Frank raped a page boy. Teddy left a girl in the river for 9 hours before daddy called the police. Hillary turned $1000 into $100,000on a tyson induced polution crime for cattle futures.
    Nancy pelosi gives money to her loser son
    Harry Reid passed legislation that benefited his 4 sons and a son in law in Nevada.
    Now what did Delayt do in comparrison? Murder, rape, stock fraud?

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    chardonnay spews:

    you wish Don. whats next, O Grady-Gregoire will seek an investigation of the BIAW’s accounting but not King County elections? it is so funny to watch you ultra radical liberals attack those on the right that are effective at exposing the leftist agenda. demhypocrats , your party Don is so guilty of fraud on so many levels, yet your party Don, screams the loudest and is the first to point fingers. like a spoiled rotten child. “look what he did” Mommy! He’s hurting me!(as you hit him first).
    Grow up for god’s sake.

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    chardonnay spews:

    Just what crime has Tom Delay commited, except be a powerful Republican and huge threat to ultra-liberals that do not connect with their constituents anymore. lets compare some other criminals:

    *Teddy Kennedy, left his date in his car under water in a river for 9 hours before calling police.

    *Barney Frank- raped a page boy in the house.

    *Hillary Clinton- turned $1000 into $100,000 by making sure Tyson’s chicken parts in the river didn’t shut them down.

    *Harry Reid- passed legislation that benefited his 4 sons and his son in law in a huge land deal.

    *Nancy Pelosi- her SON benefited financially from her US house office.

    *Christine O’Grady-Gregoire- husband is on the Gov office payroll and was on the AGO payroll.

    Now in comparrison, what did Delay do?

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    chardonnay spews:

    Harry Reid the biggest demhypocrat alive.
    next to hillary of course. this story proves that Dirty Harry, mormon, has passed legislation to benefit his sons, Partners in law firms.
    L A Times, any paper more liberal than them?

    At least 17 senators and 11 members of the House have children, spouses or other close relatives who lobby or work as consultants, most in Washington, according to lobbyist reports, financial-disclosure forms and other state and federal records. Many are paid by clients who count on the related lawmaker for support.

    But Harry Reid is in a class by himself. One of his sons and his son-in-law lobby in Washington for companies, trade groups and municipalities seeking Reid’s help in the Senate. A second son has lobbied in Nevada for some of those same interests, and a third has represented a couple of them as a litigator.

    In the last four years alone, their firms have collected more than $2 million in lobbying fees from special interests that were represented by the kids and helped by the senator in Washington.

    hat tip to rush limbaugh for staying up all night searching for this dirty deed-lie-legislation written by dirty harry.

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    chardonnay spews:

    dan @ 50
    Like I said, in comparrison to…Senator Dirty Harry Reid-D, NV, Mormon, Pro-Life, pro traditional marriage. Or Kennedy,
    H. Clinton, Frank, Pelosi, Kerry, Edwards, B Clinton, Sandy Beger, whew, need more?

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    Dubyasux spews:

    Chris @ 44

    One thing I’ll say for you, nobody can accuse you of not having your ass in gear.

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    Dubyasux spews:

    Chards of Glass Houses @ 46

    The fact Ted Kennedy is guilty doesn’t make it DeLay innocent. Don’t know what you think Hillary is guilty of. She was exonerated in Whitewater.

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    Dubyasux spews:

    DanW @ 50

    I think we should redistrict Washington, now that we’re in control. What’s good for the goose, is good for the gander. If they can do it in Texas, we should be able to do it here. Let’s start by putting Reichert’s district on the bottom of Lake Washington. We can pair each Republican-leaning Bellevue precinct with two Seattle precincts and stick ‘em all in McDermott’s district. That should make them happy. Wenatchee share 2 state reps and a state senator with West Seattle. We’ll make Yakima a sister city of Bellingham. :D

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    chardonnay spews:

    Don, the cloud is still there. what about dirty harry though? did you read the LA Times article?

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    chardonnay spews:

    isn’t the cloud all that matters? isn’t the scandal exactly what the the left is setting out to accomplish? It doesn’t matter if it’s true, the damage is done. That is the dirty side of politics. Who ever screams the loudest is heard. George Soros has alot of money to spend on attack ads and plans to target certain republicans. Doc Hastings is one of those targets.

    if the dems do the same thing is it honorable? like the article states, it has been going on since the beginning. If so why is it magnified if someone like Tom Delay does it yet dismissed when Harry Reid does it?

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    Diggindude spews:

    Rebub. wackos, invented dirty politics.
    There is no low repubs. wont sink to in attacking dems.

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    Diggindude spews:

    April 1, 2005

    Tom DeLay
    Majority Leader
    House of Representatives
    Washington, DC 20515

    Dear Majority Leader DeLay,

    I was stunned to read the threatening comments you made yesterday against Federal judges and our nation’s courts of law in general. In reference to certain Federal judges, you stated: “The time will come for the men responsible for this to answer for their behavior.”

    As you are surely aware, the family of Federal Judge Joan H. Lefkow of Illinois was recently murdered in their home. And at the state level, Judge Rowland W. Barnes and others in his courtroom were gunned down in Georgia.

    Our nation’s judges must be concerned for their safety and security when they are asked to make difficult decisions every day. That’s why comments like those you made are not only irresponsible, but downright dangerous. To make matters worse, is it appropriate to make threats directed at specific Federal and state judges?

    You should be aware that your comments yesterday may violate a Federal criminal statute, 18 U.S.C. §115 (a)(1)(B). That law states:

    “Whoever threatens to assault…. or murder, a United States judge… with intent to retaliate against such… judge…. on account of the performance of official duties, shall be punished [by up to six years in prison]”

    Threats against specific Federal judges are not only a serious crime, but also beneath a Member of Congress. In my view, the true measure of democracy is how it dispenses justice. Your attempt to intimidate judges in America not only threatens our courts, but our fundamental democracy as well.

    Federal judges, as well as state and local judges in our nation, are honorable public servants who make difficult decisions every day. You owe them – and all Americans – an apology for your reckless statements.


    Frank R. Lautenberg

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    Dubyasux spews:

    chards of hypocrisy @ 59

    What’s wrong with making $100,000 from $1,000 invested in cattle futures? It’s called “capitalism.” If you don’t know what that means, ask one of your Republican friends to explain it to you. Commodity futures are high-risk and pay big returns — but you can also lose big. Have any of you rightys ever bothered to ask Hillary how much she lost in commodities? One big score may be offset by dozens of losing transactions. That’s the nature of the commodities game.

    Nothing illegal about gambling in commodities, lots of people (including Republicans) do it every day, you’ll have to do better than that.

  49. 62

    Mr. Cynical spews:

    Don spent 10 years trying to make it in the real world with his AMWAY business and admitted he never made over $1000/yr. Don is a complete loser who blogs while his wife is the breadwinner of family. So Don makes less than $10,000 for 10 years of his life and says turning $1000 into $100,000 almost overnight on a “lucky hunch” is NO BIG DEAL????????

    Don–no one has ever paid me a dime to blog. I do it because parasites like you that have lived off the public trough for 30 years of meaningless work ARE the problem.
    Dave is right–I’m a jerk by nature jerk-off!

  50. 63

    JCH spews:

    Dudyasux……She DIDN”T make the 100 grand in the cattle futures market. It was a campaign bribe from Tyson. Both a long and a short trade were entered without account numbers. Tyson ate the loser, and passed the winning trades into Hillary’s account. The “idea” that Hillary rolled 1000 dollars into 1000 grand is total bullshit, and only believed by dumb asses like you. In addition, Democrat asshole, Hillary did not declare the short term capital gain that tax year, and did not report the gain until pressed by public opinion. Dubyasux, I can’t believe you are so stupid.

  51. 64

    Dubyasux spews:

    chards of glass houses @ 58

    “isn’t the cloud all that matters? isn’t the scandal exactly what the the left is setting out to accomplish? It doesn’t matter if it’s true, the damage is done”

    Isn’t that exactly what the Swift Liars did to Kerry? Isn’t that exactly what the GOP is trying to do to Gregoire? Your comment is a very apt description of modern politics as practiced by GOP dirty tricksters like Rove and Vance.

  52. 65

    Dubyasux spews:

    Cynical @ 65

    Hmmm … Cynical denies getting paid to blog … but he DIDN’T deny working for BIAW. Interesting!

  53. 66

    JCH spews:

    Young Democrat gets ready for the real Democrat world. Fake money……fake votes!! West Seattle, Washington – A sixth-grader and two of his friends were suspended after being accused of using phony dollar bills made on a home computer to buy food in the school cafeteria. On Monday, a cafeteria worker at James Madison Middle School found a dollar bill that didn’t look or feel like the real thing.

  54. 67

    WhyareyouPROUDtobeAnASS? spews:

    I’m so sorry, I have some TERRIBLE news for you SNAGs* and SNAILs**:

    *SNAGS: Sensitive New Age Guys
    **SNAILS: Seattle Neurotic And Inconsequential Liberals

    Hold the quiche: Manly men are back
    By Amy Doolittle
    Published April 7, 2005

    Gosh, what’s a tender girly guy to do?

  55. 68

    Mr. Cynical spews:

    You don’t deny being a “parasite”?.
    You don’t deny making your wife work while you troll.

    You are an apologist/excuse maker for the parasitic LEFTISTS.
    All you ever do is puke up the LEFTIST talking points.
    Look at how many posts you have made in the past week.
    You are talking to yourself which happens when you abuse yourself for years by combining pot and PROZAC.
    Anyone who disagrees with the LEFTISTS must be a BIAW operative. Excessive potsmoking leads to early Alzheimers and extreme paranoia.
    Don knows Logan’s employees will roll over with all the incompetence and negligence when they are deposed. It will be priceless to see the detailed questioning Logan, Huennekens and staff are in for. Every public statement, every election document, every policy and procedure, every e-mail. Logan is about ready to fold but is too stupid and arrogant to just tell the truth. He still believes Ron Sims will stand beside him to the end. HAR-HAR-HAR!!!!!!!
    Sims will save his own ass…you can count on it.
    Logan will be cast aside like an old eskimo on a little iceberg.

  56. 69

    WhyareyouPROUDtobeAnASS? spews:

    Gotta love this quote!

    “So many men are like that — so narcissistic, so self-centered. They are really afraid of growing up,” she says. “To me, a man who would look down on [being manly] isn’t a real man and isn’t in touch with the real things in life.”

    Think the author studied the “men” of Seattle?

  57. 72

    jpgee spews:

    WhyareyouPROUDtobeAnASS @ 68 Gosh, what’s a tender girly guy to do? I do not know, maybe you should clue us in as that seems to be your forte

  58. 73

    chardonnay spews:

    I agree with you, capitalism is a wonderful thing and better than socialism. My issue with H Rodham-Clinton is her ties to Tyson that helped turn her $1000 into $100k. It’s an old story everyone knows the details.
    The swift boat vets have documented history and actual film on their side. you are so silly. I am optimistic the SBV will have even better ads against Rodham-Clinton in 08. Hang on that’s gonna be a rough ride.
    The big cloud now is hanging over Nevada and the Senate seat. Dirty Harry and his 4 sons cannot hide from the federal land deal.
    C. O’Grady-Gregoire is done, put a fork in her. “contest, what contest? I havn’t been paying attention” isn’t it funny that on April 5th (chelan court date) she had Seahawks in her office? Do you think that she planned that to make herself feel better, a distraction of sorts? It’s all about me chris.

  59. 74

    zip spews:

    Don @ 64

    Defending Hillary’s cattle future scam takes the cake, Don. You are a true classic. Why don’t you research it a bit and get back to us on who her “broker and adviser” was and what his connections in Arkansas were.

  60. 75

    WhyareyouPROUDtobeAnASS? spews:

    Stub a little metrosexual nerve there, did I jpgee?
    I’m sure a nice cup of herbal tea will soothe your inner wishes-to-be savage beast.


    Regarding certain whining ‘I-was-so-low-paid’ government employees:

    Surprise! Pretty people earn more
    Fed Reserve study shows beautiful people make about 5% more than their average counterparts.

    On top of the REAL MAN study I’m sure this is a real blow to the egos of all those SNAGs, SNAILs and Metro’s.


  61. 76

    WhyareyouPROUDtobeAnASS? spews:

    Liberals are like ……..Laxatives …… They irritate the crap out of you.

    Liberals are like …….. Weather ….. Nothing can be done to change them..

    Liberals are like ……. Commercials …… You can’t believe a word they say.

    Liberals are like …….. Government Bonds ….. They take soooooooo long to mature.

    Liberals are like …….. Lava Lamps ….. Fun to look at, but not very bright.

  62. 78

    WhyareyouPROUDtobeAnASS? spews:

    Frank only had his live-in gay prostitute and companion operating a sex-for-hire ring in the congressman’s home, supposedly unknown to deaf, dumb, blind and stupid Barney, who was censured by congress in 1989 for the scandal.

    However, the ‘page-raping’ democrats do indeed exist:

    Gerry Studds is a retired American politician. He served as a Democratic Congressman for Massachusetts until 1996. He was one of the first openly homosexual politicians in United States national politics.

    He is perhaps best remembered for his role in the Congressional Page sex scandal in 1983, when he and Representative Dan Crane were censured by the House of Representatives for separate sexual relationships each had had with congressional pages who were each 17, and thus minors, at the time of the relationship. Studds refused to apologize for the relationship and in fact called a press conference with the former page, in which both stated that they were consenting adults at the time of the relationship in 1973, and that it was therefore not the business of others to censure them for what they considered their private relationship. Studds continued to be re-elected to Congress until his retirement in 1995.

  63. 79

    WhyareyouPROUDtobeAnASS? spews:

    Dear Chuck, please put away your keyboard before you make any more of a fool of yourself regarding Pope John Paul II than you already have.

    Your little link conveniently didn’t work, however somehow I would expect that in the 59 years since he was ordained a Priest, 5 years as a Bishop, 4 years as an Archbishop, 11 years as a Cardinal and nearly 27 years as Pope, someone, somewhere would have announced to the world your claim that he was in fact Jewish.

  64. 80

    A finger in your ear will stop that whistling spews:

    Dubba-Bubba @ 32–You say, “The GOP has become what the Democratic Party was in danger of becoming in the 1970s – a party taken over by its fringe elements that ultimately will become marginalized if it doesn’t recognize its error and change its ways.” Do a 180 and you will see that your party already fits that bill nicely. I admit the Republicans are in trouble and are losing touch, but the Dems have LONG since done so–hence the choice of guys like your last Pres. candidate–even most good Dems had to choke on that one. Give me a break–it’s like the pot calling the kettle black. Let’s put our heads together and elect someone more like a George Washington and have another real revolution and take back our country, for cryin’ out the window! (I can hear it now–several do-nothings are taking a breath to accuse me of ‘my usual rantings’–do us a favor and go euthenize yourselves and let those who want change instead of rhetoric have some breathing room for once!) Oh, and this site is FULL of socialists–don’t kid yourself. They were just never taught in school to recognize one when they use a mirror.

  65. 81

    WhyareyouPROUDtobeAnASS? spews:

    When are you rightys going to get enough education to understand Democrats are capitalists? -Comment by Dubyasux— 4/9/05 @ 10:07 am

    Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!

    That has to be your best laugh line yet Donnyboy!

    Capitalists believe in the free market system of competition, supply and demand.
    Liberals (aka, soci*lists) believe in daddy union and mommy government: the 3 musketeers approach: all for one, one for all.

    Capitalists believe onerous taxation prohibits their ability to grow, expand and create new wealth.
    Liberals (aka, soci*lists) believe taxes are the solution to any given problem every single time.

    Capitalists believe in volunatary charity.
    Liberals (aka, soci*lists) think they are Robin Hood. Robin Hood stole from the rich to give to the poor, but he was still was a thief. Soci*lism is the same thing only government is Robin Hood.

    Capitalists believe in private ownership.
    Liberals (aka, soci*lists) want to abolish private ownership in order to regulate production and distribution through the “community” (another name for mommy government).

    Capitalists believe in reaping the benefits of their own hard work.
    Liberals (aka, soci*lists) believethat no one should benefit over another.

    Capitalists believe there are winners and losers.
    Liberals (aka, soci*lists) whine “Can’t we all just get along?”, that the inequalities that exist in our society are unjust.

    Capitalists believe in common rights.
    Liberals (aka, soci*lists) believe in collective rights.

    Capitalists are do-ers.
    Liberals (aka, soci*lists) are talkers.

    Capitalists see the world in black and white.
    Liberals (aka, soci*lists) see various and assorted shades of gray.

  66. 83

    chardonnay spews:

    wayptbaa @ 79
    you are to frikin funny.
    same link says :
    Both representatives immediately copped [i bet they copped] to the charges and the committee decided to reprimand the two. However, then-congressional newcomer U.S. Rep. Newton L. Gingrich (R-Ga.) demanded expulsion.

    this would explain the dems hate towards Gingrich. is it just a coincidence the guys name was STUDDS?

  67. 84

    chardonnay spews:

    WAYPTBAA @ 81

    various shades of gray, LOL
    i’m laughing so hard my son came running in the room. what mommy? I said, oh honey, I was just reading about opposites. just like you do in kindergarten. oh, you mean like full and empty? Yes sweety. empty liberals full of it.

  68. 85

    A finger in your ear will stop that whistling spews:

    Dubbl’d-Over @ 36 — I hate to be the one to inform you, but all those folks I am in the homes of EVERYDAY are not getting used to “Guv’nah Gregore” at all and with the recent turn of events (evidentally you were caught napping or were watching CNN instead of Fox) there is not likely a need for anything but a very speedy decision–even Dems have said that with the new info it should never have been certified. Smell the coffee, dude and wake up.

  69. 86

    A finger in your ear will stop that whistling spews:

    Dubble-over @ 45–Well, you have reached new heights here (only when I was speculating you called it depths)–funny how things change when the shoe is on the other foot, eh?

  70. 87

    A finger in your ear will stop that whistling spews:

    Chardonnay @ 47–Actually it’s more like “He’s hitting me BACK!”

  71. 88

    A finger in your ear will stop that whistling spews:

    Dubbl’d over in laughter @ 54–She was exonerated also of stealing all the stuff from the White House maybe? Of course you could rationalize and say it will all be returned when she is elected President in 2008, I guess. Don’t make me gag.

  72. 89

    A finger in your ear will stop that whistling spews:

    A question–when Hillary invested in cattle futures, did she recruit a bovine psychic?

  73. 90

    A finger in your ear will stop that whistling spews:

    Diggin not deep enough @ 60–You really do think it is a one-way street, don’t you? No wonder you drive like you do.

  74. 91

    A finger in your ear will stop that whistling spews:

    Frank @ 62 (dude)–Listen, when a man says someone else will pay, why do you automatically think he has hired a hitman to do the job. Take your head out for once and use some common sense. You are too thin-skinned to believe–how you have managed to survive this long is beyond me. And why do you automatically assume that a ‘hard decision’ is a correct one? They are legislating from the bench, not just interpreting laws–and your freedom is as much in jeopardy as mine. It will just take longer to catch up with you that far to the left, but history shows it to be inevitable.

  75. 92

    A finger in your ear will stop that whistling spews:

    Dubba-bubba @ 67–And why is that anymore interesting than where any else might work or that they might neglect to deny. I never denied I am an IRS agent looking into your records–what does that mean? Hmmm? I-i-i-i-nteresting…..

  76. 93

    A finger in your ear will stop that whistling spews:

    Torn-Joe @ 71 and 72–Did you stutter or just hiccup? You are repeating yourself and once is more than enough from you. I suppose you supply source references on all of your posts, too? I will be watching to see if you do, now that I can expect higher standards from one so magnificent.

  77. 95

    A finger in your ear will stop that whistling spews:

    Why are you @ 81–Bravo, well said! A good dose of hoof-IN-mouth for your targets (aka Libs).

  78. 96

    chardonnay spews:

    torridjoe @ 73-74

    Frank also tried to fix some parking tickets for Gobie, who had been selected as Frank’s lover after running an ad in the Washington Blade promoting himself as a “hot bottom.” Loeb said nothing about Frank’s sleazy past. TV Movie Led to Prostitute’s Disclosures His accusation that Rep. Barney Frank (D-Mass.) knew that Gobie had operated a prostitution service out of Frank’s Capitol Hill apartment became national news after it was first reported Friday by the Washington Times

  79. 97

    A finger in your ear will stop that whistling spews:

    There seems to be a real denial of anyone here being (dare I say it without being filtered) s*o*c*i*a*l*i*s*t*s. Let me assure you–they do exist here in prfound abundance–it is like not seeing the forest for the trees. Also, if the schools don’t teach you to recognize one in the mirror each morning, then you were failed by your (MORE)tax dollars and your Goals 2000 programs and your diversity and sensitivity training and your….ad nauseum, ad infinitum….

  80. 98

    A finger in your ear will stop that whistling spews:

    Char @ 87–LMAO–I want to have your baby! That was great!

  81. 99

    WhyareyouPROUDtobeAnASS? spews:

    One of my “favorite” lines from Comrade Hillary is when she slipped and publicly referred to our children an “Human Capital”.

    Nah, no soci*alist/communist leanings there.

  82. 100

    A finger in your ear will stop that whistling spews:

    Why are you @ 102–and let’s not forget the ever popular “we are the president!”

  83. 102

    chardonnay spews:

    here is my favorite line from the kiro article,

    We were there Friday when Tacoma attorney Steve Bulzomi officially notified the county that it is liable for what he calls a “ghoulish” mistake.

    ethics? and you soulless ghouls are worried about Tom Delay paying his family to work on his campaign? he didn’t even pay them as much as C. O’Grady-Gregoire paid her husband to be an investigator for the Attorney Generals office, approximately $53,000/yr according to the OFM reports.

  84. 104

    Dubyasux spews:

    Cynical @ 71 …

    STILL hasn’t denied working for the BIAW … this is getting VERY interesting!

    char @ 76

    “he swift boat vets have documented history and actual film on their side. you are so silly. I am optimistic the SBV will have even better ads against Rodham-Clinton in 08.”

    Oh, do they have “film” of Hillary on Kerry’s boat, too?

    zip @ 77

    You got something against Democrats making money in the futures markets?

    Cheesy Chuckie @ 80 (and elsewhere) …

    has been bashing the late Pope for several days now … obviously has it for John Paul II … betcha he asked the Pope to let him into Heaven but John Paul told him to “chuck it” …

    WhyIsChuckieAnAss @ 82

    The link works fine. Cheesy Chuckie is linking us to a web site called Jew Watch. Here’s what the Southern Law Poverty Center says about Jew Watch:

    “Every Friday afternoon, ‘The Couch Potato,’ a 62-year-old white man who claims improbably to have been active in the civil rights movement, takes to the airwaves for two hours at St. Louis’ WGNU-AM radio station. In a baritone radio voice, ‘Couchie’ offers up ‘family radio for concerned white people.’ You wouldn’t know it from the station’s Web site, but The Couch Potato’s real name is Frank Weltner … a member of the National Alliance, the country’s biggest and best-organized neo-Nazi organization. He runs Jew Watch, a wildly anti-Semitic, 6-year-old Web site that carries archives of conspiracy theories about Jews.”

    I find it VERY INTERESTING that Cheesy Chuckie caps his anti-Pope diatribes by linking us to an anti-Semitic web site run by a notorious neo-nazi. It would appear that Chuckie is not a right wing hater, but an anti-Semitic, white supremacist, neo-nazi right wing hater.

  85. 107

    Dubyasux spews:

    middlefingerpickingnose @ 83

    “Let’s put our heads together and elect someone more like a George Washington and have another real revolution and take back our country, for cryin’ out the window!”

    Sounds good to me, although I must warn you that last time I tried that the guy (Perot) flamed out … but if you come up with someone good … and good-and-in-the-middle … I’ll even be nice to you and stop calling you names for a few days.

    Got anybody in mind?

  86. 108

    Dubyasux spews:

    chard @ 86

    This wouldn’t be the same committee that imunized Tom DeLay from House discipline in the event he is indicted, would it?

  87. 109

    Dubyasux spews:

    whistlingthroughyournose @ 89

    “even Dems have said that with the new info it should never have been certified”

    Really? What Democrats said that?

  88. 110

    Dubyasux spews:

    lickingearwaxofffinger @ 92

    I doubt it. If you roll the dice enough times, you’re bound to come up with 7 eventually. How much did she lose in cattle futures before she won?

  89. 112

    Dubyasux spews:

    heresathumbinyoureye @ 100

    Don’t overlook the neo-nazis here; there’s at least one, good chance of two, possibly more.

  90. 113

    Dubyasux spews:

    quitpickinyournose @ 101

    That reminds me of a story about George Bernard Shaw. A famous actress of the time wrote to Shaw proposing marriage. She extolled, “Imagine if our children had my looks and your brains!”

    To which Shaw replied, “But what if they have my looks and your brains?”

  91. 115

    Danw spews:

    Hey sorry to drop in, But I was Trolling over at Usp and they were harrassing Headless Lucy about the Reports that Wal mart is actually subsidized by Taxpayers, and we know how the GOP hate to pay taxes. but love to support corporate anything.

    So just had to dop these two links. They are great.
    One even includes Wal mart giving out employee handouts on how to get on Guvment assistance.

    Back to your Cat box.

  92. 117

    Dubyasux spews:

    Hey DanW are you leaving already? Stick around for a while. This thread is fun! :D Did you know Mr. Cynical hasn’t denied he works for BIAW?

  93. 118

    WhyareyouPROUDtobeAnASS? spews:

    Left rhymes with bereft…

    of thought, humor, IDEAS, sanity, conscience, integrity, honor, humility…

  94. 119

    Danw spews:

    we know he works for the BIAW..he has been out on a fundraiser.
    What do you think of my Tom Delay inspired redistricting of Washington? We got the power. We can have one Red district, we will Call it “Eyman Land”…it will stretch from Okanogan county to Greenlake to Mukilteo weaving through a few of the Jails to pick up Dino’s old partner. Ooops, sorry Felons can’t vote. Or can they. wink wink

  95. 120

    Dave spews:


    of thought, humor, IDEAS, sanity, conscience, integrity, honor, humility…

    As opposed to those on the right who exemplify all of these traits…. or not.

    Judge: Eyman’s firm a sham

    EVERETT, Wash. — Initiative maven Tim Eyman and his treasurer created a sham corporation in 2000 to hide salary payments to Eyman, a Snohomish County judge has ruled.

    Permanent Offense Inc. was used to conceal money Eyman drew as salary for work with his political action committee, also named Permanent Offense, Superior Court Judge Linda Krese said Friday.

    Campaign treasurer Suzanne Karr of Everett participated in a deliberate attempt to circumvent state public disclosure laws, Krese said. The judge identified six public-disclosure violations by Karr, which could result in her being fined as much as $22,000.

  96. 121

    WhyareyouPROUDtobeAnASS? spews:

    Wow you do a realy good liberal lefty tit for tat!

    How proud you must be.

  97. 122

    Danw spews:

    Cynical as the accountant has to get the funds back from tilting at windmills, back into the worker safety training they promise. can you say ugly audit?

    Cynical.. writing off Church tithings will put up a big red flag for them.

    Should that be one of those death penalty cases you are so found of?….I just don’t know where to draw the line reading my bible…moneychangers.

  98. 123

    chardonnay spews:

    donny @ 111
    That would be the same committee that literally FINED
    Nancy Pelosi for her ethics violation.
    P.S. it would only take 5 minutes to audit your 1040EZ?

  99. 124

    WhyareyouPROUDtobeAnASS? spews:

    Number of people freed from totalitarian dictatorships by precision use of American military force under George W. Bush:
    50 million+ in just two years

    Number of people freed from totalitarian dictatorships by anti-American Bush-bashing terrorist-appeasing whining elitists:
    Zero. Ever.

  100. 125

    WhyareyouPROUDtobeAnASSHOLE? spews:

    If I had a nickel for every time I’ve been caught whacking off in public, I could finance Rossi’s entire 2008 campaign!

  101. 128

    Dave spews:

    Number of people freed from totalitarian dictatorships by anti-American Bush-bashing terrorist-appeasing whining elitists:
    Zero. Ever.

    Right, and when Clinton’s precision use of the military took out Slobodan Milošević, GW Bush promised to end “useless nation building” when he debated Al Gore during the 2000 election. Of course Bush, like you, he was simply lying through his teeth.

  102. 129

    Danw spews:

    Day of rest….it’s Sunday….don’t be messin with the lord by being on this devil’s instrument on the day of rest.
    Is it okay for you to be working on Sunday?
    Cause I want to know where the list of which laws in bible are rigid, and the others only recomendations…hypocrite.
    Should that be a death penalty case too?
    At least you can do some art.

  103. 130

    chardonnay spews:

    awe yes, clinton the real draft dodger, commander in chief.
    FYI, is there really such thing as a debate with algore? LOL that was all for Saturday Night Live.

  104. 131

    Dubyasux spews:

    char @ 126

    A normal person could audit my tax return in 5 minutes, but it would take stickinear 5 days because he’d get stuck trying to add our social security numbers on his calculator.

  105. 133

    chardonnay spews:

    ouch danny, the sabbath might just be on saturday. It depends which religion one is worshiping. seventh day adventists worship on saturdays as do the jewish. why are you so threatened? I sense anger. which religion/cult did your parents follow when you were growing up?

  106. 134

    chardonnay spews:

    angry dan, it’s kinda early for last call, did ya get cut off? it sounds like you are a mean drunk.

  107. 135

    Dubyasux spews:

    DanW @ 122, 125

    You remember those old-time washing machines with rollers and a hand crank? My mother used one of those when I was a little kid. I wonder if Mr. Cynical has something similar on his desk. His job is to feed $100 bills into the rollers and turn the crank until it comes out the other side. The $100 bill may look the same after going through the washing machine, but it’s not the same. It was L & I taxes when it went in, and Rossi slush fund when it came out. This process is called “money laundering.”

  108. 136

    Danw spews:

    Hey Char;
    Now you are getting it…we are all different. so it is not up to your chosen religion to make the rules for all of us.
    Did you ever go review those Ten Commandments you want on Public buildings?

    Because only a few of them are actually laws, that is why we are all concerned of this religous right wing power trying to make them all laws. Even your religion would be in violation.

    PS my cult was older than your cult.

  109. 137

    Dubyasux spews:

    Oops, I misspelled that, it should be “money laundry” altho I think at BIAW they call it “doing the laundry”

  110. 138

    Dubyasux spews:

    chards of broken shot glasses @ 137

    No, you’re confusing him with me; I’m the mean drunk, remember?

  111. 140

    Danw spews:

    When you said Iwas cut off, I thought you guessed my Religion, but as for last call, I’m not using the Handle of Gallo.

    It is interesting to go to BIAW website, and read their sign up forms, with their disclosures of the private little trust committee that is unnamed who makes all the decisions… I believe it is Corleone.

  112. 141

    Dubyasux spews:

    Say, Chards, isn’t it past your bedtime? You’re setting a lousy example for your kid. Some parent you are!

  113. 143

    Danw spews:

    Char at 129

    good vs evil dan, it exists.

    Did you put that comma there on purpose…..touche

  114. 144

    chardonnay spews:

    D @ 141 ya, your right. you seem to be better. are you laying off the hard stuff? I was in the rest biz for 20 years, I saw it all.
    D @ 139 what are you spouting? you assume so many things. you have some wild ideas and many false ones. you have no idea if I am a buddhist or a mormon like harry reid. dude, you are so obsessed with this religion thing. moveon. you are embarrassing yourself. so you had some bad experiences with a cult, get over it.

  115. 146

    chardonnay spews:

    do either of you own a biz or ever run a biz, with employees? if you did/do you would know all about L&I and the high rates we are forced to pay. for a couple hundred dollars to join the farm bureau and/or the biaw, we get a refund of several thousand dollars. sure the biaw lobbies for it’s customers just like the unions and the tribes. just like the law firms and developers benefitted from harry reids legislation. scandals or business as usual?

  116. 147

    Danw spews:

    Well we can rule out Morman…because we know how you feel about Harry Reid….and we can rule out Buddist because your no where near enlightenment. Pretty sure the 7th day folks aren’t on computers on a Sunday morning at 2:00 AM. what does that leave?….. A Bush again Christian, former 12 stepper.

    But your right, let’s get off religion and back to politics…now if we can get “W” to do the same we’d all be better off.

  117. 148

    Danw spews:

    The difference is Unions Lobby for the Employees, while the others Lobby for the employeers, you want lower L and I talk to the Insurance industry, they are doing pretty well under this administration. and donate primarily to the GOP.
    You Trash the Unions for making sure someone gets a living wage,(and yes they may be top heavy and need reform, but not destroyed) then on the other hand don’t want poor people looking for a handout. (see Walmart Philosophy above) Give people a living wage, then you don’t have to support them with federal and state aide programs.

  118. 149

    zip spews:

    OK DanW, we get the message. Just more of the same lefty script:

    Wal-Mart, GWB, BIAW, Ten Commandments, “Bush again Christian, former 12 stepper”, the Insurance industry = BAD

    Unions, “a living wage” = GOOD

    We’re all paying for the Union vise grip on government in this state. Witness the “Project Labor Agreements” that are becoming so popular on major public works like SeaTac Airport. These PLA’s do nothing but disqualify non-union compaies from competing for this taxpayer-funded work. People working on these projects would be paid a “living wage” without the PLA’s.

    And do you seriously think the world would be a better place if Wal-Mart was unionized? Don’t forget there would be a whole lot more Wal-Mart shoppers harmed by the higher prices than Wal-Mart workers (allegedly) helped. It would hit the public as just another regressive tax.

  119. 150

    jpgee spews:

    Explain something to me zip..please, if you have the time…..Merriam Webster definition of Fascism:
    “A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, stringent socioeconomic controls, suppression of the opposition through terror and censorship, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism.” Isn’t the a complete and truthfull definition of the current Republican Administration and his cronies? Please enlighten me.
    (ty dailykos for the information)

  120. 151

    jpgee spews:

    another typical rebuglican quote! “If English was good enough for Jesus Christ, it’s good enough for us.” – former Texas Governor Miriam Ferguson, on barring foreign language teaching. That seems the extent of the republican intelligence. (even though it was years ago, ‘good things’ (LMAO) have a way of repeating themselves

  121. 152

    zip spews:


    Now that you put it that way, I want to go back and cancel my vote for that evil Rossi (one of the Bush cronies you now, also Rossi=Eyman=Craswell).

    You lefties object to Bush’s nationalism, which was a response to 9/11. Fair point, a lot of republicans are also concerned about this aspect of his policies. But calling him a racist or fascist, or calling those who serve in his admin his “cronies” makes you lose all your credibilty. Here’s why he and his cronies are not fascist:

    You are not suppressed, are you?
    The tightest socioeconomic controls in the US are in the tax code, which has been a bipartisan effort.
    This prez is not racist. I could say the Demo’s in the Senate are racist based on their 2000 memo stating they will block ALL minority court appointees, and because they still have not censured KKK Byrd.

    Thanks for confirming that my use of the term fascist the other day was correct. It applied to “suppression” practiced by the Gay rights crowd. And thanks to Goldy for providing us with several illustrations of that the last few days.

  122. 153

    jpgee spews:

    You are correct zip fascist = neo’s like yourself, thanks for confirming my thoughts. You are a very special type of wingnut. The honest type

  123. 154

    zip spews:


    You lose even more cred by calling me a neo. Wingnut I can take (since I invented the term, check your trusty dictionary) but considering as how:
    I know what a neo is.
    I am not a neo.
    I even implied that I’m not a neo in my comments.
    But you still called me a neo.
    That all adds up to jpgee=idiot

  124. 155

    Mr. Cynical spews:

    You are trying to reason with a homophobic homo.
    I think that may be IMPOSSIBLE, huh?

  125. 156

    zip spews:

    Mr C
    I think jpgee and chee are both paid by Goldy and “his cronies” to post comments designed to boil my blood. Don used to have the job but was dismissed owing to his drinking on duty.

  126. 157

    jpgee spews:

    zip, implying that you are not a neo, is like your twink, the idiot saying he has nothing to do with BIAW…..extremely doubtful lmao@ the two major trolls here

  127. 159

    Don'sanASS,you can be too! spews:

    Play nice kiddies.

    Your little game of whose wagging a longer one is only cute for about 5 and a half seconds.

    Then it becomes another boring blog.

    Ho hum.

  128. 160

    chardonnay spews:

    DanW @ 150-51
    If I were a Mormon like dirty Harry Reid would my opinions be as valid as his?
    Many other states have workers comp through private Insurance companies. It works, it is a fraction of the cost and unlike WA State, and does not have $6 million unaccounted for.
    If you think business should not lobby congress then you better write dirty Harry and voice your opinion. He alone authored a bill that made many corporations rich. His sons just happen to be partners in those corps.
    You really should read that article in the LA Times. Here is the link? Again!

    One of his sons and his son-in-law lobby in Washington for companies, trade groups and municipalities seeking Reid’s help in the Senate. A second son has lobbied in Nevada for some of those same interests, and a third has represented a couple of them as a litigator.
    In the last four years alone, their firms have collected more than $2 million in lobbying fees from special interests that were represented by the kids and helped by the senator in Washington. ETHICS?

  129. 161

    Diggindude spews:

    Ethics my ass………

    “”President Bush has nominated the vice president’s son-in-law, Philip J. Perry, as general counsel of the Homeland Security Department, where he would oversee 1,500 lawyers who work on legal matters like Coast Guard maritime laws and immigration.

    Mr. Perry, who is married to Elizabeth Cheney, is leaving the Washington office of the Latham & Watkins law firm, where he was a partner, as well as a lobbyist for Lockheed Martin, one of the top 10 contractors for the Homeland Security Department.

    Mr. Perry, according to disclosure forms filed last year with the Senate, lobbied the Homeland Security Department and House Homeland Security Committee on behalf of Lockheed Martin as it applied for a government designation that certain of its products were “qualified antiterrorism technologies” and approved for sale. Last year, it was among the first companies to win such a designation.

    Lockheed Martin and its partners have won hundreds of millions of dollars worth of commitments in the last two years for products and services it sells, including a contract to train airport security screeners for the Transportation Security Administration.””

  130. 162

    Diggindude spews:

    A fitting quote for all the revoters:

    “Repetition does not transform a lie into a truth.”

  131. 163

    Diggindude spews:

    George Herbert Bert Walker III, a cousin of the Bush presidents, is U.S. ambassador to Hungary.

    Elizabeth Cheney, the vice president’s daughter, is a deputy assistant secretary of state. Her husband, Philip Perry, is chief counsel for the Office of Management and Budget.

    Mitchell E. Daniels Jr. is OMB Director and his sister, Deborah Daniels, is an assistant attorney general.

    Bush named the wife of Sen. Mitch McConnell (R-Ky) as his labor secretary

    Chuck James works at the Justice Department. His wife, Kay Coles James, is the director of the Office of Personnel Management, and his father, Charles Sr., is a top Labor Department official.

    Labor Secretary Elaine L. Chao is married to Sen. Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.)

    Labor Department Solicitor Eugene Scalia is the son of Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia.

    George Bush’s son George W. is president

    George W.’s brother Jeb is governor of Florida

    George H.W.’s nephew, John M. Walker Jr, is a judge on the US Court of Appeals.

    Bush Secretary of State Powell’s son Michael was named chair of the Federal Communications Commission.

    Olympia J. Snowe (R-Maine), is the wife John R. McKernan Jr. who was Maine governor.
    Senator Robert F. Bennett (R-Utah) is the son of a senator
    Senator Mark
    Rep. Rodney P. Frelinghuysen (R-N.J.) has had five ancestors or relatives represent New Jersey before him.

  132. 164

    Diggindude spews:

    Though critics don’t say it directly, they suggest that the White House is playing favorites by funneling business to companies that have strong ties to the Republican Party. In addition to Halliburton, other companies expected to earn big contracts are Bechtel Group, Fluor Corp. and Parsons Group. Those companies gave a combined $2.64 million to political campaigns between 1999 and 2002, with 68 percent of those dollars given to Republican candidates, according to an analysis by the non-partisan Center for Responsive Politics.

    Halliburton has a long and generous attachment to Republicans, contributing $709,320 to candidates between 1999 and 2002. Ninety-five percent of that money went to Republicans, according to CRP.

    Yet Halliburton is just one of several companies with Republican pedigrees that are likely to benefit from the war. San Francisco-based Bechtel Group Inc. is one of the biggest engineering and construction companies in the world and virtually certain to win some contracts to rebuild Iraq. Bechtel helped build Hoover Dam, the trans-Alaska pipeline and San Francisco’s subway system.

    Like Halliburton, Bechtel has deep roots in the Republican Party. Former Secretary of State George Schultz is a board member. It is a generous contributor to politicians, providing $1,297,465 to candidates between 1999 and 2002, with 59 percent going to Republicans.

  133. 165

    Chuck spews:

    I wouldnt call it bashing, I was merely indicating that I dont drink from the same hemlock cup as the pope and that all people dont think that the papal system is representitave of God, actually just opposite. As far as the web page I simply put that up to stir your thought (i forgot for a moment that liberals dont think). As far as the author, I have never heard of the guy but it sounds like you must listen to him often judging from your familiarity with him.
    That said, I do have a problem with everytime I turned on a TV there was the dead pope…yes I had a problem with that shoved down everyones throat (the libs invented the problem with religion shoved down your throat). In my opinion it was false god worship, didnt care but I didnt want to see it on EVERY news channel ALL day for several days. And by the way anti semitism is not descriptive of me at all.

    It sounds like you need to get a real computer if yours cannot open links….

  134. 166

    zip spews:

    Diggindude, whats your point here? Do you really give a rip about Frelinghuysen’s (R-N.J.) five ancestors? (If yes: get a grip dude you are losing it.)

    Reid of Nevada was accused of dirty dealing in the LA Times (not a right wing nut publication is it?) and the long list of people you seem to have heartburn with were not. The point of the LA Times article is that Reid either is or acted like a slimy sleazeball when he got this bill passed. He’s your party’s leader, go ahead and defend his actions on this one. And keep Frelinghuysen’s (R-N.J.) great grand uncle out of it.

  135. 167

    Diggindude spews:

    Point is, when it comes to nepotism, and inside dealings, nobody does it better than repubs.

    “”But Halliburton didn’t do a better job than Jones and his agency. The military soon was paying $2.64 for a gallon of gas, double the price that Jones says he would have paid. Although Halliburton subcontracted much of the work to Kuwaiti buyers with minimal competition, it still earned as much as $100 million from the deal. A Pentagon audit has reported that Halliburton may have overcharged taxpayers about $61 million, prompting the Justice Department to open a criminal investigation.””

  136. 168

    chardonnay spews:

    It is a common practice.
    senator hillary rodham-clinton is wife of former president bill clinton

    EX- AG Investigator Mike Gregoire was married to AG Chris O’ grady-Gregoire
    Temp GOV chris o’grady-gregoire, boss of husband mike gregoire. go to olympia & check out his NEW office.
    you confirm my point that dems do it, republicans do it every day. It is a common practice.

  137. 169

    zip spews:

    OK Dude, the election is over and Bush won.

    I take it you agree with the LA Times that your party’s leader, Reid, either is or acted like a slimy sleazeball in passing legislation that directly put money in the pockets of his relatives. Or are you still searching for proof that this never happened?

  138. 170

    Diggindude spews:

    I’m not defending anyone. Just setting the record straight on which party has the biggest dung pile.
    You guys win.

  139. 171

    chardonnay spews:

    he cannot address it because it is all true, he knows it therefore does not answer. watch his rant unfold.
    Harry Reid was on Face the Nation this morning ranting about the ethics of Tom Delay and Bob Scheiffer said nothing, now a different anchor, not as left as scheiffer, would have brought up Reids past. Maybe even talked about Pelosi’s FINE. This is what the left leaning media has done for to many years. Now that they have competition and the truth gets out, the extreme left resorts to extreme hypocritical attacks, funded by George Soros.

  140. 172

    Dubyasux spews:

    Dumbass @ 127

    Number of people using their new freedoms to kill American troops: Roughly 50 million+

  141. 173

    Dubyasux spews:

    DanW @ 143

    I haven’t been to the BIAW web site. If the FBI comes to my house I don’t want them to find porn on my computer.

  142. 175

    Dubyasux spews:

    chards @ 147 (continued)

    But I think the real question is whether you’re getting anything hard, I suspect not, which maybe explains why you’re such a bitch.

  143. 177

    Dubyasux spews:

    DanW @ 151

    Dan, you just don’t get it — or maybe you do get, but you’re saying it in a roundabout way. The conservatives — or, more accurately, the cheap-labor conservatives — are playing a zero sum game. Their idea is if the working class and poor have less, the rich and wanna-be-rich will have more. “More” is what they want. Actually, I think they want “less” too — for us — just because they’re mean sons-of-bitches. Unlike traditional conservatives, who were smart enough to realize that a prospering working and middle class makes the upper class even more prosperous — the cheap-labor conservatives don’t focus on building wealth from the ground up but rather on taking money from others.

    The Chinese ran this kind of zero-sum economy for 2,000 years, and it reduced them from the world’s leading civilization to one of the world’s poorest societies.

    If the cheap-labor conservatives succeed in imposing their zero-sum game on the American economy, we too will end up with a poor and stagnant society.

  144. 178

    Dubyasux spews:

    zip @ 153

    “And do you seriously think the world would be a better place if Wal-Mart was unionized?”


  145. 179

    Dubyasux spews:

    zip @ 155

    Did your parole officer say it’s okay to vote, or are you one of those illegal felon voters for Rossi?

  146. 180

    Dubyasux spews:

    zip @ 157

    “I am not a neo.
    I even implied that I’m not a neo in my comments.
    But you still called me a neo.”

    I think what he’s trying to say is you’re a liar.

  147. 182

    Dubyasux spews:

    correction to #183

    Oops, I misspelled that, I meant to say “don’t you have some money to wash?”

  148. 183

    Dubyasux spews:

    zip @ 159

    You’re mistaken. Goldy doesn’t have to pay me. I’ll gladly do it for free.

  149. 184

    Sam Walton spews:


    I’m temporarily changing my tag as a temporary tribute to a good man who embodies the American dream. I had the opportunity once to visit the Wal-Mart musueum in Bentonville. The origins of the chain are really quite an admirable story of entrepeneurship and hard work.

  150. 186

    Dubyasux spews:

    Chris @ 162

    If you’re bored, why are you still here? Don’t you have anything better to do? Today is Sunday, try going to church, your soul needs plenty of saving!

  151. 187

    Dubyasux spews:

    chards of glass houses @ 163

    “Many other states have workers comp through private Insurance companies. It works, it is a fraction of the cost and unlike WA State, and does not have $6 million unaccounted for.”

    I think I know where the $6 million missing from the L & I fund might be — isn’t that about what Rossi spent on his campaign?

  152. 188

    Dubyasux spews:

    Right Wing White Supremacist Neo-Nazi ter @ 168

    Sure is fun to see Cheesy Chuckie run for cover after realizing he went too far! Run for your hole, Little Mousey! Don’t let the cat catch ya!

  153. 189

    Dubyasux spews:

    zippity-hypocrite @ 169

    “The point of the LA Times article is that Reid either is or acted like a slimy sleazeball when he got this bill passed.”

    Well gee whiz! Cry me a river! When do GOP senators NOT act like slimy sleazeballs?

  154. 190

    Dubyasux spews:

    chards-of-hypocrisy @ 171

    “you confirm my point that dems do it, republicans do it every day. It is a common practice.”

    Since you recognize that both sides do it, why do you criticize only Democrats for doing it? Perhaps partisan bias?

  155. 192

    Dubyasux spews:

    Furthermore, zip, if a man can’t drink the stuff straight, either it’s no good or he’s no good.

  156. 193

    WhyareyouPROUDtobeAnASS? spews:

    Liberalizing farming and welfare pigs

    There was a farmer who had many pigs. One day someone went to the farm and asked the farmer: “What do you use to feed your pigs?”

    “Well, I give them acorn, corn, and things like that. Why?”

    “Because I am from the Animals Protection Association and I think you don’t feed them like you should, they shouldn’t eat wastes.” Then he fined the farmer.

    Some days later, another person arrived and asked the same question. The farmer answered: “Well, I feed them very well. I give them salmon, caviar, shrimp, steak… why?”

    “Because I am from the United Nations Organization and I think it’s unfair that you feed your pigs like that when there are people dying with nothing to eat.” And he fined the farmer.

    Finally, another man came in and asked just the same question. The hesitant farmer answered after a few minutes: “Well, I give five dollars to each pig so they can buy whatever they want.”

  157. 194

    Dubyasux spews:

    zip @ 186

    Sam Walton was indeed a man who embodied the American Dream, but his children suck. You should use the tag “Robson Walton” to more accurately reflect what you (and Wal-Mart currently) stand for.

  158. 195

    Dubyasux spews:

    Robson @ 187

    zip is a neo because he sucks up to the Dubya-Cheney-Rove-DeLay-Halliburton crowd, and he’s a liar because he says he isn’t.

  159. 196

    Dubyasux spews:

    Maybe I should say zip “shills for” the Dubya-Cheney-Rove-DeLay-Halliburton crowd, although I’m sure he sucks up to them too.

  160. 197

    Dubyasux spews:

    Kind of like how Mary “Zits” Lane shills for Rossi, only zip is uglier, even notwithstanding marummy’s faceful of zits.

  161. 198

    Dubyasux spews:

    Come to think of it, Zips and Zits should get together, they have much in common. How about it, Robson, you gonna ask Zits for a date?

  162. 199

    Dubyasux spews:

    You have nothing to lose. Maybe she’ll even let you fuck her. Better get your shots first, in case she does.

  163. 200

    MAYBEDubyasuxbutDonistheSUCKEE spews:

    Donnyboy, your one-after-another-blurb posts seem like a pitiable cry for attention…
    Unemployment…er retirement getting you down?
    Fish not biting?
    Wife still ignoring you?
    No satisfaction from the infomercials anymore?

  164. 201

    Right Wing Capitalist spews:

    Ass @ 195

    When are you going to STF up, kill the goddam pig, and serve me my bacon?

  165. 202

    Dubyasux spews:

    zip @ 102

    If I’m getting on your nerves you can always move to North Korea. No worries about free speech there.

  166. 203

    MAYBEDubyasuxbutDonistheSUCKEE spews:

    Give a liberal a pig, you feed him once – if PETA allows him to eat it, that is.

    Teach a liberal to raise pigs, work for a living, earn an honest profit, eat for a lifetime and he sees the pie-in-the-sky stupidity of liberalism.

  167. 204

    chardonnay spews:

    Don, I see you just woke up. Good afternoon. do I need to remind you every weekend that a little tomato juice cures that hangover?

  168. 205

    MAYBEDubyasuxbutDonistheSUCKEE spews:

    Shhh, don’t interupt him Char…he’s taxing his brain trying to come up with new and clever invectives.

  169. 207

    Dubyasux spews:

    Who knows, it may start something, tomato juice might grow on both of you. You seem to have some other things in common, as well. If you add your IQs together, your children may even be normal.

  170. 208

    zip spews:

    Don @ 204

    No worries Don. You shanked the neo response though. As a youngster, I was in awe of my hard working entrepeneur grandfather. I have to live with the insane tax and regulatory policies you and “your ilk” dream up so I come here to object. How “neo” is that?

    You lefties just love to throw that one around against anybody who disagrees with every nit pickin piece of your agenda. Big tent right? The intolerance of the lefties for any and all dissent continues to be the “Progressives” achilles heel. You guys jsut don’t get it and probabaly never will.

    I’ll take a pass on your matchmaking service.

  171. 209

    chardonnay spews:

    and here I thought you weren’t a mean drunk anymore. I see you are just mean when you have a hangover. I’m picturing a made for tv movie starring you, danW, torridjoe, goldy and jpgee, possibly the rest. I can’t think of a title yet but it would have a plot of something like The Disfunctional Fab 5. maybe “Dazed & confused on capitol hill.”

  172. 210

    Chee spews:

    REPUBLICAN speaks out against REPUBLICAN. “Tom’s conduct is hurting the Republican Party, is hurting this Republican majority and it is hurting any Republican who is up for re-election,” Rep. Chris Shays, R-Conn., told The Associated Press in an interview, calling for DeLay to step down as majority leader.

  173. 211

    zapporo spews:

    Ok – I’ve read enough. I declare this “Be Nice to Don Day”.
    It’s obvious something went horribly wrong here.
    It’s the first time I’ve ever seen him use the “F” word.
    The stress meter is off the chart.
    Let’s give our favorite liberal with a bad callsign a break.
    Instead, how about some light reading?
    I understand that H. Clinton has a new book out.
    Here’s a link:
    Book "Living History"


  174. 212

    MAYBEDubyasuxbutDonistheSUCKEE spews:

    LMAO @ Chris Shays – now there’s a dependable RINO!

    Give me a break.

  175. 213

    MAYBEDubyasuxbutDonistheSUCKEE spews:

    Zapporo – the FIRST time you saw him use the F-word????

    My God, he can barely get through a post without using it! Where the heck have you been darlin??

  176. 214

    chardonnay spews:

    guys, guys, Don was out last night. He got home around 1am and posted a few, somewhat civil, comments. he’s been working on being a nicer drunk. he’s made alot of progress, take it easy on him. he just needs to work on the morning-oops, day after.
    Can you imagine being in court with him when he’s hung over? I’m sure this is why he retired early, the Judge tossed him out because of that temper. This is what I’ve been saying all along.
    He is a work in progress.

  177. 215

    Dubyasux spews:

    zip @ 211

    Bad news, Chards. Zip doesn’t love you. You’ll have to keep doing without.

  178. 216

    Dubyasux spews:

    Chards of Broken Heart @ 212

    It’s true I’m a mean drunk, but that’s nothing compared to what I’m like when sober.

  179. 217

    Dubyasux spews:

    Chee @ 213

    Republicans turning their backs on DeLay is like a slug getting ostracized from the garden by his fellow slugs!

  180. 218

    Dubyasux spews:

    chards @ 217

    I amuse myself by bashing Republicans. What do you do for fun, suck farts out of dead seagulls?

  181. 219

    zapporo spews:

    Idiot @221 – You are very clearly a person without regard for the finer things in life – Nobility, learned reason, patriotism, self-sacrifice. Review your writing and then look in the mirror. Are you really the person you want to be when you write like that? Aspire for something higher.

  182. 220

    Dubyasux spews:

    zap @ 222

    For total lack of nobility, learned reason, patriotism, self-sacrifice, or anything else of value see Free Republic, any writings by Ann Coulter, or many of your own posts.

    What’s the problem, Zap, are you upset because a liberal dishes back what righty jerks have been dishing out for a long long time? Can’t take your own medicine? When you crybabies stop, I’ll stop. Republicans can have civilized political discourse in this country whenever they want it.

    Their move.

  183. 222

    Dubyasux spews:

    zip and zap

    I doubt very much we’d get along, sober or otherwise. If you want a dialog here, and can get off your high horses long enough see things from our side’s point of view, it looks like this:

    1. Right wing hatemongers like Ann Coulter call Democrats “traitors” and says they should be put in concentration camps or executed, and so-called “conservatives” lap it up. They buy her books by the millions and say “isn’t she great.” That’s me and my friends she’s talking about.

    2. Plenty of people on the Republican side threaten physical violence against anti-war protesters and others who disagree with the policies of this reckless and incompetent administration. Regardless of whether you support this war or think it’s reckless idiocy, it’s wrong to treat your fellow Americans like that.

    3. Last week an incendiary Republican congressman virtually incited his followers to assassinate federal judges.

    4. Conservatives have been calling Democrats “communists” and “socialists” for at least 70 years.

    5. Conservatives run vicious smear campaigns against our candidates — and sometimes their own candidates (e.g., John McCain).

    Now, if you guys want to distance yourselves from this shit, tell your Republican friends to do the same, and send letters to your Republican leaders and spokespeople to knock it off or you’re not going to support them or the party or its candidates, then I’m willing to do my part on our side.

    But if you condone if any of this, there’s absolutely nothing to talk about. This isn’t negotiable, my friends. Nobody — and I mean NOBODY — is going to question my patriotism or impugn my loyalty to this country that I went to war for.

    Am I making myself clear?

  184. 223

    jpgee spews:

    lol at this conversation. My first instinct was to jump in again and ‘hammer’ zap….but when I read some of his posts on his blog he does come out as thoughtful,

  185. 224

    chardonnay spews:

    And here I was defending you because you showed such a civil display while liquored up last night.
    The meanness, during or after, is a bad side effect and a sign that you really should stop.
    Caution, 1 of 2 things could happen, while in a black out your wife admits you to a hospice where your right to die will come true. You’ll die of a pancreatic disease before your eligible for SS benefits. Could we call this “means testing?”

  186. 225

    Dubyasux spews:

    I do not think Republicans should expect to throw out the invective and superheated rhetoric they do, and not get some in return.

    It’s pretty simple. Distancing yourselves from the rhetorical excesses of the right wing faction will go a long way to make the discussions here more civil. Now, given that we’re all acting individually and have no leaders or spokespersons on either sides, negotiating a truce is not an easy thing so what I propose is that Goldy or somebody else work out the wording of a pledge to “fight clean” and then we can all individually agree to it or not, and remain individually responsible for conducting ourselves accordingly.

    I agree that Zap is sometimes thoughtful, but he has participated in the name-calling here, so he gets no special immunity.

  187. 226

    Dubyasux spews:

    If some of what I have post here seems excessive to you, all I can say is, liberals have been on the getting end for a very long time now, and I just want those of you on the other side to see what it looks like when you’re on the getting end. This is what your side is doing to us, and this is what your side has turned political discourse in this country into.

  188. 227

    Mr. Cynical spews:

    Gee Don–74 posts by you on this “thread”…is that an all-time record???
    Goldy–how many different people have posted on your Blog the past week?

  189. 228

    chardonnay spews:

    don @ 228
    are you a victim now? I think you defend yourself very well. You are the #1 mud slinger and spell checker. Quick on the draw to point out the errors others. Now you call a truce but on your terms. what a Sims, you need some good home training.

  190. 229

    A finger in your ear will stop that whistling spews:

    I finally figured it out. Don is just an angry old man sitting on Goldy’s “porch”, throwing rocks at ‘dogs’ and yelling at ‘kids’. I think he needs some humor in his life, so here goes:

    Liberals are like……. Parrots…..They repeat a lot of words, but don’t know why.
    Liberals are like……. Boomerangs….You throw them away and they keep coming back.
    Liberals are like……. Glass houses…..Totally transparent and very high maintenance.

    Liberals are like……. Archeologists…..They keep digging up ancient history.

    Liberals are like……. Silly Putty….Fun to play with, but completely useless.

    Liberals are like…….Food poisoning….They taste good going down, but there’s hell to pay later.

    Liberals are like……. Bananas….They have ‘appeal’, but are mushy inside.

    Liberals are like……. Cotton Candy…..Sweet to the taste, but not filling.

    Liberals are like……. Bad movies….They just keep making them.

    Liberals are like……. Edsels….They seemed like a good idea at the time.

    Liberals are like …. 8 track tapes….Completely obsolete, but some people refuse to “move on.”

    Liberals are like….Homosexuals….You want to be friendly with them, but you’re always watching your backside.

  191. 231

    zip spews:

    Hey Don @ 225

    Your “GOP to do list” (items 1 thru 5) consists 100% of actions taken by others, not me. So should I hold it against you for the WTO anarchist vandals busting up Seattle a few years back? Or the $100,000 bribe that Hillary took when she was in Arkansas? Should I hold it against you when I pay my B & O taxes every month? Or when I pay my company’s insurance premiuims? Should I hold it against you that move-on posted the movie on their web site comparing Bush to Hitler?

    Why the hell should I have to “distance yourselves from this shit, tell your Republican friends to do the same, and send letters to your Republican leaders and spokespeople to knock it off” as you demand? Your problem and the problem of many zealots is the whole “guilt by association” shtick you seem to be on. I don’t practice it and wish you also did not.

  192. 232

    chardonnay spews:

    233, dude
    I never. I have typed on word for many years and still spell terribly. It was liberals on king that jumped me for it. Everyone makes typing errors and most blogs don’t have spell check, and if they do like king5, they do not offer corrections. This horsesass blog offers nothing. It’s a non-issue. It is a means of belittling someone when you have nothing of substance to offer, not even humor. However, your humor is the #1 reason why I have always liked you, got some?

  193. 233

    chardonnay spews:

    A finger in your ear will stop that whistling @ 232

    that was FUNNY!

    ZIP-it is Don and his party that should be telling it’s leaders to stop the gang banger propaganda tactics of search and destroy. It ain’t workin. they tried it on Bush, Rummy, Ashcroft, Condi, Cheney now Delay. Non have fallen.
    they simply hate that we have effective leaders that want to accomplish something and have real ideas.
    they have Zero ideas and pit bulls for leaders.

  194. 234

    A finger in your ear will stop that whistling spews:

    Here’s one for you, Diggin’–Liberals are like……Swingsets….First going one way, then the other and if you’re not careful you can get hit in the head.

    To dubblsux @ 229–You think Libs have been the targets all the last 50 years? Everything is fine when you guys are in power, but you immediately revert to your babble about being the victims when the PC winds start blowing the other way. Giving us a taste? We have been fed to the brim with your taste and to the point of vomiting. It is time you had some of your own medicines. Be the vicitm you are constantly telling the blacks, hispanics and women that they are. Be the fire hydrant that gets peed on and BE HUMAN, if you learn nothing else from the experience.

  195. 235

    A finger in your ear will stop that whistling spews:

    Thanks, Char–I like your style too. And Mr. Cynical is a riot also.

  196. 237

    Dubyasux spews:

    Cynical @ 230

    It’s comforting to know you can count past your fingers, Cynical. That’s a desirable trait in a CPA. Actually, I’m taking your word for it, and I’m not going to waste my time to see if the 74 is accurate, but it wouldn’t surprise me a bit if you were off.

  197. 239

    Dubyasux spews:

    P.S. Cyn @ 230

    I thought you guys were against quotas? It’s okay for Gates to have more money than the rest of us (btw I agree), but it’s not okay for me to have more posts than others? Would it make you feel better if I’m actually a committee of 8 people posting under the same screen name?

  198. 240

    Dubyasux spews:

    chartreuse (rhymes with obtuse) @ 236

    If you want to align yourself with DeLay, go right ahead! I assume, then, that you endorse DeLay’s view that federal judges who don’t toe the right-wing line should be assassinated. I can cite numerous examples of “effective leaders” … Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, Idi Amin, Jim Jones, the Pied Piper …

  199. 244

    A finger in your ear will stop that whistling spews:

    And lest I have forgotten anyone—

    Liberals are like….Slinky’s……Totally worthless, but a lot of fun to watch falling down stairs.

    Liberals are like……. I.O.U.’s……..Promises to deliver at sometime in the future.

  200. 245

    A finger in your ear will stop that whistling spews:

    This dog bites when riled and this kid throws rocks back. Prepare to catch, Dsux.

    Q. Do you know what I like about Dsux?
    A. Me neither.

    Q. Know how to confuse a liberal?
    A. Tell him his tax cut is due to a Republican conspiracy.

    Q. Know how to make a lib happy?
    A. Tell him his tax increase is a new Dem strategy to fight poverty.

    Q. Why did the lib cross the road?
    A. “What road? We need a monorail, got that?!”

  201. 247

    A finger in your ear will stop that whistling spews:

    Char and Cynical–I’m having a BBQ–roasting Dsux–want to attend?

  202. 248

    A finger in your ear will stop that whistling spews:

    Donny, I am starting a new business–I will be raising fish. Actually I will be stocking the Rio Grande with pirahna. Two birds with one stone! (If you don’t get that, ask Goldy or PJ’s).

  203. 249

    Don is an even bigger indoctrinated tool spews:

    A man was stuck in grindingly slow traffic on his way to work one
    morning. After moving about twenty feet in ten minutes, he saw a man
    walking between the cars. He rolled his window down and asked the man
    what was going on.

    “There’s a liberal up there that’s still upset about the presidential
    election and he’s chained himself to a light pole,” the man said. “He
    says he doesn’t have the money to move to Canada and he’s threatening
    to douse himself in gasoline and set himself on fire, so I’m taking up
    a collection for him.”

    “What have you got so far?” the driver asked.

    “I’ve got a gallon of gas and three Bic lighters”

  204. 250

    A finger in your ear will stop that whistling spews:

    Dsux–just thought you would like to know tthat I have not resorted to cut and paste here. I cared enough to give the very best. “Nite, Don-Boy!”

  205. 251

    A finger in your ear will stop that whistling spews:

    I have to go to the store right now, but I promise to pummel you more when I get back, okay?

  206. 252

    Don is an even bigger indoctrinated tool spews:

    News Anchor Dan Rather, The Reverend Jesse Jackson, Today Show personality Katie Couric and an American Marine were hiking through the jungle one day when they were captured by cannibals. They were tied up, led to the village and brought before the chief.

    The chief said, “I am familiar with your western custom of granting the condemned a last wish. Before we kill and eat you, do you have any last requests?”

    Dan Rather said, “Well, I’m a Texan; so I’d like one last bowlful of hot, spicy chili.” The chief nodded to an underling, who left and returned with the chili. Rather ate it all and said, “Now I can die content.”

    Katie Couric said, “I’m a reporter to the end. I want to take out my tape recorder and describe the scene here and what’s about to happen. Maybe someday someone will hear it and know that I was on the job till the end.” The chief directed an aide to hand over the tape recorder, and Katie dictated some comments. She then said, “Now I can die happy.”

    The chief turned and said, “And now, Mr. Marine, what is your final wish?”

    “Kick me in the ass,” said the Marine.

    “What?” said the chief. “Will you mock us in your last hour?”

    “No, I’m not kidding. I want you to kick me in the ass,” insisted the Marine.

    So the chief shoved him into the open, and kicked him in the ass. The Marine went sprawling, but rolled to his knees, pulled a 9mm pistol from his waistband, and shot the chief dead.

    In the resulting confusion, he leapt to his knapsack, pulled out his M4 carbine, and sprayed the cannibals with gunfire.

    As the Marine was untying the others, they asked him, “Why didn’t you just shoot them? Why did you ask them to kick you in the ass?”

    “What!?” said the Marine, “And have all you liberal *******s call ME the aggressor?!?”

  207. 255

    A finger in your ear will stop that whistling spews:

    Char, I was going to something with alcohol in it. I don’t drink, but I guess that he does and since he won’t go quietly and without a fight, I thought it might anesthetize him if I marinated him first.

  208. 256

    A finger in your ear will stop that whistling spews:

    Okay, Don, I’m back—

    Liberals are like…..A new shoe shine……without the shoes.

    Liberals are like……a Tic-tac…..But what is needed is an enema.

    Liberals are the only folks I know that would spray paint a skunk and claim it is a cat.

  209. 257

    A finger in your ear will stop that whistling spews:

    Reminds me of a story with a sadist and a masochist. The masochist said, ‘hurt me’ and the sadist said, ‘no!’ Libs are a lot like that in their approach to giving people what they need. (Again, Don, ask Goldy and he will explain–maybe PJ’s will need some help, too).

  210. 258

    A finger in your ear will stop that whistling spews:

    Liberals are like…..flies… matter how many you swat, there seem to be more. (There seem to be a lot of them around horsesasses). [I can hear it now, Don and cohorts–don’t bother].

    Liberals are like….mosquitoes….a lot of annoying buzz, a painful suck and then you kill them.

  211. 259

    chardonnay spews:

    marinate him before his wife euthanizes him. one more black out after a tyranical drunken tantrum and he’ll be in the local hospice. forget the feeding tube, just bring on the sauce.
    Oh Don, we are having so much fun at your expense. you see Don, you think we are angst filled rightwingers and we are not. We are ROFLOFAO because this election is such a profound statement that the democrats are imploding in our state. you won the house and senate and you got the gregoire in temporarily but the affect this court case has on the liberals in this state is monumental. And you need not thank republicans, you should blame King Ron.

  212. 260

    A finger in your ear will stop that whistling spews:

    New from RON-co: The Guv’nah Fraudoire doll–batteries not included. Comes with Mayflower moving van and tiny mansion–future prison cell not included.

  213. 261

    chardonnay spews:

    uh oh, now you’ve gone and done it. you said the fraud word and the liberals take offense to that. There was no fraud, this was a model election. isn’t it funny that she had name recognition, money, a gov’t career and the wind in her sails and she still lost? Little ol Dino Rossi wiped the floor with her. Kerry won this state and so did Murray, why is it she couldn’t?

  214. 262

    A finger in your ear will stop that whistling spews:

    Because not all Dems are robots. Some actually have blood in their veins. Like the ones I have met here in a few neighborhoods–recently moved FROM King County and say they are ashamed to admit they ever lived there. I think that about says it all.

  215. 263

    A finger in your ear will stop that whistling spews:

    Yeah, this was a model election– model fraud, model incompetence, model deceipt….need I go on? And I fear that if we don’t clean it up NOW the next election will have the Republicans thinking that is the only way to win, too–heaven help us when it is totally rampant and saturated with fraud. I know it is bad now, but humqan nature will only make it worse and to downplay the significance of it is to betray our state and disenfranchise EVERY voter. The partisanship has to be set aside or we all get hosed.

  216. 264

    A finger in your ear will stop that whistling spews:

    I wonder how our poster boy for Affirmative Action is doing (Ron Sims) with all the crap that’s starting to hit the fan? Will be interesting to see if he tries to use Logan as a life preserver when his ship goes completely under. In the interest of equal time–I hope all the right-wing crooks are bagged and thrown in the river also–too many of them are RINO’s and ruined by the socialists in this country.

    Just a note of history for you bashers of freedom: The men who met and put together our Constitution (most of whose names they never teach in the government fool system) were clergymen who wanted freedom even for you who disagree with them. What I want to know is this–are you man enough and grateful enough to defend that document many of them gave their lives to assure you or will you hide behind its amendements while simultaneously attempting to castrate it? (Reminds me of a T-shirt I saw recently at–I neutered my cat–now he’s a liberal). Goldy will shed some light on that for you porch-sitters who are perplexed.

  217. 265

    A finger in your ear will stop that whistling spews:

    Well, the Goldmeister Filtration System is hard at work here. Will be interesting to see if my last post ever shows up. I guess I used the dreaded S word (Hint: another name for Marxists).

  218. 266

    A finger in your ear will stop that whistling spews:

    Read the Constitution and then read the Communist Manifesto and decide for yourself which we are closer to. If you can still be left-leaning after a good hard look at it that way, then you are beyond hope and beyond use to mankind.

  219. 267

    A finger in your ear will stop that whistling spews:

    Goldy, I thought you were for free speech here. Why do you filter out the ‘S’ word? Does it hit too close to home? Are you trying to protect someone? Maybe your porch-sitters start foaming at the mouth when they hear it? Pavlovian reaction, maybe.

  220. 268

    A finger in your ear will stop that whistling spews:

    Seems the Goldster thinks s*o*c*i*a*l*i*s*t is more offensive than the word sh*t. Why he would think so is fascinating to contemplate. Any right wing ideas on that? Any left wing ideas? Open thread guys and gals. “That should start it off”.

  221. 269

    A finger in your ear will stop that whistling spews:

    RE: post @ 268 –Anyone doubting the authors claim can accept this challenge: name just one socialist country that ever made lives better for anyone but the ruling classes. The very systems that promised to eliminate the ruling class only replaced them with another, more ruthless than the former. That is history and it is irrefutable. To claim otherwise is to choose to be blind to fact.

  222. 270

    Dubyasux spews:

    Lickingearwaxfromfinger @ 249

    In Texas, art is the guy who lives on the corner and literature is what the NRA leaves in your mailbox.

    Have you heard of the new bipartisan bumper sticker for 2008? It says, “Run, Rossi, Run”. If Republican, put on rear bumper. If Democrat, put on front bumper.







  223. 271

    Dubyasux spews:

    Q: How did George describe his trip to the aircraft carrier to Laura?

    A: “And the plane was all like ‘VROOM VROOM’ and I was all like ‘Wheeeee!’ and then I was all like ‘mission accomplished!'”

  224. 272

    Dubyasux spews:

    Q: How many conservatives does it take to change a light bulb?

    A: Fifty — one to do it, and 49 to stuff it down everyone else’s throat.

  225. 273

    Dubyasux spews:

    Q: Who has the right of way when four cars reach a four-way stop at the same time?

    A: The pickup with the gun rack and bumper sticker saying, “Guns don’t kill people. I do.”

  226. 274

    chardonnay spews:

    @ 270
    because the S word hits to close to home and they can’t let that get out. although THEY know thats what they are. the “ALL ABOUT ME” society.

  227. 275

    chardonnay spews:

    Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean speaks at a Little Rock, Ark., news conference Friday, April 8, 2005. Dean criticized spending by the Bush administration and said Democrats are more conservative on fiscal issues than the Republicans.
    HUH? did the good doctor prescribe himself the wrong meds? dean, you are a dem ok, there is nothing conserv about you. nothing.

  228. 276

    chardonnay spews:

    “You can dance around it, you can run away from it, you can put perfume on it, but the bottom line is the bottom line,” Boxer said. “It’s hard for me to know why you’d want to work at an institution that you said didn’t even exist.”
    Sen. Barbara Boxer D-Calif.

    sounds to me doctor dean has been prescribing stuff to babba wahwah boxer.

    Monday’s hearing was briefly disrupted by three women who stood up and shouted at senators to vote against Bolton. One held a banner that read, “Ban Bolton, Not Treaties.” The women, who described themselves as peace activists from a group called Code Pink, were escorted from the hearing room.

  229. 277

    chardonnay spews:

    geez people, the radical jane fonda & super radical hillary rodham days aren’t cool anymore. they just make you look like a side show. see me, look at me, hear me, me me me.

  230. 278

    chardonnay spews:

    oooh here is a good one,
    “No one has ever raised taxes and solved the problem, nor will we solve the problem. We don’t have a revenue problem; we have a spending problem.”
    -Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger R-CALIF

  231. 279

    Dubyasux spews:

    You’re a Republican if —

    You named your kids “Deduction One” and “Deduction Two.”

    You believe poverty would end if people were allowed to keep more of their minimum wage.

    You remember laughing once when you were a kid.

    You scream “ditto!” while making love.

  232. 280

    Dubyasux spews:

    Speaking of making love …

    Two Republicans were making love.
    The man suddenly stopped and said, “Oh — did I hurt you, dear?”
    The woman replies, “No, why do you ask?”
    The man says, “You moved.”

  233. 281

    Diggindude spews:

    Howard dean says what we all know, “dems tax and spend”, “repubs. spend and spend.”
    Washington state needs taxes now, because gwdumbass, cut funding at the federal level, leaving states hanging.

  234. 282

    chardonnay spews:

    boo hoo hoo diggindoo, don’t worry, come November we will have a new Governor and you will see no more tax increases. remember that campaign slogan….change the culture in Olympia!
    It worked!
    It’s been such a joke there for 20 years. I can’t wait to see Dino get in there and clean house. Bye bye to L&I, Employ Security, DSHS, etc. He needs to eliminate Assistant Directors as well, too many chiefs, not enough Indians!

    Did you notice the day that Dino was in court (April 5) she had a few of the Seahawks at the gov’s office for a meeting, then the Seahawks went across the hall to the Secretary of State’s office to sign autographs? She strategically plans this stuff. She even had Edgar Martinez in her office on Wednesday. Wonder if the chef is cooking them all lunch? Now that he is FULL TIME!
    Go Dino!

  235. 283

    A finger in your ear will stop that whistling spews:

    Y’kmow, this is hard for me to do, but I have to compliment Donny–he HAS a sesnse of humor and seems to be trying real hard to use it. Bravo! And I have to disagree with Char–I am afraid that Olympia is still full of culture–like my fridge. (Wink). I remember laughing today, Don–thanks, man!

  236. 284

    A finger in your ear will stop that whistling spews:

    The new theme song in the guvnah’s mansion is from the wizrd of Oz–it covers all the important needs–a brain, a heart and courage.

  237. 285

    chardonnay spews:

    well someone should get crissy to start saying “there’s no place like home….auburn”
    I’m thinking when she leaves the newly floored mansion she will need direction back home to the O’Grady homestead. Follow the yellow I-5 brick Hwy 18 road SR167, Supermall exit to WalMart, they are always hiring.

  238. 286

    Diggindude spews:

    The orange sheets will be drifting back into the woodwork come May.
    I’m going to enjoy it WAY too much!!
    We’ll have to put extra guards at abortion clinics, naturally, bomber crowd.

  239. 287

    Dubyasux spews:

    chards @ 281

    So what is The Terminator’s solution? Borrow and spend. This guy is all talk, no walk.

  240. 292

    Diggindude spews:

    It could have given them both herpes for all I care, it wouldn’t have changed my view that it is one of the most biased sites.

  241. 294

    Diggindude spews:

    This isnt a site, its a blog, owned by a liberal.
    I would suspect some ideas here, may slide left, how about you?