Open Thread

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Personally, I kinda dread the inconvenience of the Seattle’s proposed bag fee, and I’ll certainly mourn the loss of the paper grocery bags I now reuse to collect recycling and food waste… but fuck the astro-turfers at the American Chemistry Council.  I mean, fuck ‘em.

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  1. 4

    manoftruth spews:

    this great city??? run by kikes and faggots?
    u give condoms to 13 year ols girls
    u love it when guys say they prefer to be fucked up the ass
    u are a bunch of sickos
    to parphrase nina totenberg when she said she hopes jesse helms gets aids, i hope the san andreas fault runs thru seattle

  2. 5

    Marvin Stamn spews:

    Wow, the liberal dailyhowler isn’t pleased with olbermann…
     
    The big nut went on for almost seven minutes mocking Prejean—and her breast implants. But it’s funny, ain’t it? You’ve never heard a word on this program about the things Marion Barry said.

    Of course, the reasons for that are obvious:

    Olbermann doesn’t have videotape of Barry walking around in a two-piece swim suit. And Barry is an older man, not a younger woman. As Olbermann has made dumb-foundingly clear, he seems to live for the opportunity to ridicule young women. He never says boo about older man—perhaps understanding they could come to his studio and engage in conduct which might require him to obtain a sphincter implant.

    Olbermann’s a woman-trasher—a genuine nut on this matter. And no, we hate to break the news: He doesn’t do “progressive” television. He seems to do work designed to capture the eyeballs of well-meaning young liberals. And for some ungodly reason, he does television which has long been devoted to the ridicule of women’s brains and bodies.
      
    I wonder why olbermann would have issues with women.
     
    Has he ever said anything in the past, like a magazine interview where the reason dribbled out of his mouth??
     
    It probably won’t come as much of a surprise that when Keith Olbermann was a kid, he got the tar kicked out of him on a regular basis. And not by the football team. “I got beat up by girls all the time,” says Olbermann. “They literally posted a sign-up sheet and would take turns. I think that’s why I’ve always been such a fan of Mencken’s line, ‘Afflict the comfortable and comfort the afflicted.’ I’ve been afflicted.”.
      
    So that explains it.

  3. 7

    Marvin Stamn spews:

    When huffington post is bashing the edwards for lying, you know it’s bad.
      
    Elizabeth is particularly painful to watch, especially for anyone who knows anything at all about the facts and timeline of this story. She’s lying but at this point I just pity her. She’s a smart woman who’s partially in deep denial and partially just trying to keep the seams from showing on all the untruths she’s spun defending you up to this point.

    Take a simple question asked by Larry King. King asked your wife how she felt when she saw the tabloid reports of your affair. Elizabeth rambled a little about how untrustworthy the tabloids were. Then she said that she dismissed the rumors when she first saw them in the headlines.

    Sounds plausible, right? To millions of people, maybe. But anyone who spends a minute thinking about it knows that your wife said something that couldn’t possibly have been true.

    Why? Because you told your wife about the affair in late December, 2006 but the first tabloid story appeared in the National Enquirer in October, 2007. So – even though you’d told her about the affair months earlier, she dismissed the reports when she first saw them?

    Of course not. But it’s all part of the big narrative switcharoo that your wife has done in interview after interview – telling the story in such a way that it feels like she found out about your affair at the same time the rest of the world did.
      
    It sounds like she is trying to lie to the american people and get them to fall for her sob story.

  4. 8

    ByeByeGOP spews:

    You can tell when Stammering Marvin the child rapist is nervous – he starts going on the attack. I guess Kieth worries you huh Marvey?

  5. 9

    ByeByeGOP spews:

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30750042/

    OH BOY! Rove in front of a prosecutor that alone is delicious. But you KNOW that you KNOW this piece of shit Rove is going to lie – you just know it and THAT means he can be indicted for perjury. JESUS CHRIST ON A CRUTCH I can’t wait to see how this turns out. That fucking traitor needs to be sent to the deepest darkest hole we can find for him. And the rest of the Bush regime shouldn’t be far behind.

  6. 10

    Daddy Love spews:

    Hey, remember when Kusay and Uday Hussein were alleged to have tortured people in “torture rooms?” Republicans thought that was awful, so awful that it was essential for a large, powerful country to invade, topple their government, and loot occupy their country!

    I’m so glad we came to our senses since then. But now that we know that torture is a fine thing and an unremarkable tool of ordinary statecraft, don’t we owe the Hussein boys a bit of an apology?

  7. 11

    timetravella spews:

    manotruth: Not even a closet bigot, just a plain old, garden variety anti-semite who also happens to hate gays. Why don’t you spew somewhere else, you schmuck?

  8. 12

    timetravella spews:

    manotruth: Not even a closet bigot, just a plain old, garden variety anti-semite who also happens to hate gays. Crawl back into your hole.

  9. 13

    Marvin Stamn spews:

    11. timetravella spews:

     
    Ignore him. If no one responds he will get frustrated and leave.

  10. 14

    Marvin Stamn spews:

    10. Daddy Love spews:
    Hey, remember when Kusay and Uday Hussein were alleged to have tortured people in “torture rooms?”

     
    Alleged?

  11. 15

    manoftruth spews:

    the fucking crybabies who can attack sarah palin and her teenage daughter all day apparently have some areas you cant talk about

  12. 16

    manoftruth spews:

    what i should say is, eveytime i see the fucking jew controlled media attack sarah palin and mention she’s christian, i’ll call out you faggot kikes

  13. 17

    Mark1 spews:

    Open thread huh? Of course, not shockingly, nary a word about lying vile cunt Nancy Pelosi cramming her foot in her big mouth….more typical hypocrisy from the left. I for one, am now going out to enjoy this beautiful sunny day with a giant grin on my face.

  14. 18

    ByeByeGOP spews:

    Obama might continue the Gitmo trials…fucking oreo. I am going to cry on the shoulder of my big bear buddy and have a zima.

  15. 19

    manoftruth spews:

    yes, speaking of that lying cunt pilosi, did u see her say, instead of trying to change the policy of torture, her job was to get more dems elected. u can say what u want about republicans, no republican would ever be such an unashamed fuckingliar

  16. 21

    Broadway Joe spews:

    Since Marvin asked a reasonable question, I’ll give him a reasonable answer, from Wikipedia:

    “Fiat S.p.A., an acronym for Fabbrica Italiana Automobili Torino (English: Italian Automobile Factory of Turin)”

    In 2000, Fiat was nearly purchased by GM, but GM balked, and eventually paid Fiat $2 billion to simply go away because Fiat’s affairs were so badly run. Now they’ve recovered to the point that they’re basically buying Chrysler.

    Ironic, no?

  17. 22

    ByeByeGOP spews:

    Well Puffybutt the Oreo has taken to using my screen name – that is HOW FUCKING PATHETIC the punk is.

    But two can play at that game. This place is about to get crazy.

  18. 26

    drool spews:

    Hey, Marv,

    I guess you missed the recent show when Olbermann came to the defense of Ms Prejean.

    Don’t let facts get in the way of your bias.

  19. 27

    manoftruth spews:

    @24
    LOL. actually, that could be true. but regardless, goldstein runs such a piss poor blog, you can create a username and it doesnt even prompt you that its already in use.

  20. 28

    Marvin Stamn spews:

    21. Broadway Joe spews:
    Since Marvin asked a reasonable question, I’ll give him a reasonable answer, from Wikipedia:

      
    Not exactly the answer I was looking for…
     
    fiat –
    a formal authorization or proposition; a decree : adopting a legislative review program, rather than trying to regulate by fiat.
     
    The obama wants to decide what the chrysler CEOs get paid. SO they become fiat CEOs and get paid the big bucks. Kinda defeated the whole purpose of obama taking over the company.

  21. 29

    Marvin Stamn spews:

    26. drool spews:
    Hey, Marv,
    I guess you missed the recent show when Olbermann came to the defense of Ms Prejean.
    Don’t let facts get in the way of your bias.

     
    I posted a link.
     
    Where is yours?

  22. 30

    gs spews:

    I say if Pelosi thinks the CIA misled her, then get that said under oath!

    Bring on these dumbocraps! Under Oath!

    What is the definition of IS

  23. 31

    gs spews:

    9 Billion in the hole and what is Gregoire Hiring? Goldy I found you a day job with benefits!

    The Office of the Governor has an immediate opening for a Speechwriter. This position is located in Olympia, Washington and is responsible for preparing remarks for the Governor to deliver at public and media events.

    Requirements:

    · Bachelor’s degree in journalism, communications or related field

    · Outstanding writing skills; knowledge of correct use of grammar, construction and spelling

    · Excellent proofreading skills

    · Ability to write for diverse audiences and translate complex policy initiatives into speeches that effectively communicate

    · the Governor’s core values and goals

    · Comfortable working in a team environment

    · Ability to manage multiple projects simultaneously

    · Ability to take direction and editing from others

    · Experience in government, including public policy and legislation, helpful but not required

    The application deadline is June 5, 2009.

    To apply, please send a cover letter describing your relevant qualifications, resume, and the names and phone numbers of three professional references, including a supervisor to:

    Leslie Frank

    Office of the Governor

    PO Box 40002

    Olympia, WA 98504-0002

    e-mail: Leslie.Frank@gov.wa.gov

    Persons of disability needing assistance in the application process may contact Leslie Frank at 360-902-4121. The Office of the Governor is an equal opportunity employer.

  24. 33

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @4 If 13-year-old Republican girls want condoms, we should give them condoms, because we already have enough Republicans.

  25. 34

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Wingnut solution to teen sex: Tell teens to abstain from sex, deny them access to birth control, don’t let them have abortions. In fact, that’s exactly what the Bush administration did, and the result is the number of unwed teen mothers went way up.

  26. 35

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @16 I don’t have a problem with Palin being a Christian. I don’t even have a problem with Palin being an idiot. The only thing I have a problem with is an ignorant Bible-thumper sitting in the White House. My country deserves better than that.

  27. 37

    What'sittoya spews:

    $250 federal “stimulus” checks going to some 8,000-10,000 dead people??? Way to go, Obama!!!

  28. 39

    Broadway Joe spews:

    Fair point, Marvin. But you have to see the irony in what the BBC once described as ‘the sick man of the European car industry’ now getting a stake in Chrysler, not to mention offering to buy GM’s Opel subsidiary. And I’ll also offer this: Once Fiat gets their hooks fully into Chrysler, those CEOs in Detroit making the big bucks will probably be sent for their Golden Parachutes.

    Personally, I have two bigger worries: the anouncement that Chrysler is shuttering about 700 dealerships (officially speaking, ending their agreements with local dealers), and the likelihood that as many as a thousand more could get the axe soon. While we can all agree that there’s a glut of dealerships out there of all makes and models, Chrysler could end up shuttering half of their dealerships, maybe more. That’s a lot of jobs lost. And provided that something of the company recovers, who’s gonna be left to sell the product? And given that Fiat has some really nice new rides coming out over the next few MYs, eventually folks will want to buy new cars again, where will they go? This could be a colossally bad move for Chrysler and Fiat.

  29. 40

    ByeByeGOP spews:

    So why is the GOP so against a truth commission? Isn’t the party of God, family values and the American Way in favor of the truth? Why hide from the truth? If you think Pelosi is a liar, then why wouldn’t you want to have a Truth Commission? Could it be because you know Pelosi is just a straw dog? The real issue is that the Bush regime conceived, authorized, and executed torture. THAT is what you right wing traitors don’t want talked about.

  30. 41

    Marvin Stamn spews:

  31. 44

    Marvin Stamn spews:

  32. 46

    correctnotright spews:

    @40: The real truth is coming out now. The torture was primarily designed to get the “false confessions” of the “prime targets” to say that Iraq and al qaida were linked.

    It had nothing to do with the safety of Americans. Illegal torture was used to try and justify the Iraq invasion. It was Cheney and Addington pushing the CIA and the contractors to get flase information on Iraq to justify the run-up to the war. Look at the timeline of the 183 waterboardings in one month….not right after 9/11 but right before and after the Iraq war.

    They lied about the Iraq war, they lied about torture and they lied most everything.

    But they are telling the truth about a CIA memo written after the fact on congressional briefings?

    Doubtful.

  33. 47

    Marvin Stamn spews:

    45. Marvin Stamn spews:
    Ultimately – I believe in a woman’s right to choose.

     
    I sure do.
     
    And women have been choosing to not be with bibigoober.
     
    Go figure.

  34. 48

    Marvin Stamn spews:

    46. correctnotright spews:
    They lied about the Iraq war

    Is this one of those “they?”
     
    “Saddam Hussein certainly has chemical and biological weapons. There’s no question about that.”

    Congresswoman Nancy Pelosi (Democrat, California)
    During an interview on “Meet The Press”
    November 17, 2002

  35. 49

    Tom Foss spews:

    The revisionism of the GOP-ers is amazing and predictable. The lies, the false and cherry picked intelligence, the contrived evidence, the distortion of American values- hey Marvin that was not just “they” who said the lies. It was every one of the lying sacks of shit. You want names?

    Cheney, Rummy, Perle, Feith, Wolfowitz, Rice, Tenant, Addington, and oh yeah, Bush. That is just for starters.

    Ever notice as the admin went along the press secretarys got even more ignorant but better looking? Fleisher to McClellan to airhead. All liars too. At least Scott McC tried to come clean to the American People.Dana “gee the cuban crisis was before I was born” Perino personified empty heads and empty suits of the administartion. And spare me the BS about how Dana said she was joking.

    BTW, had Pelosi said what she learned of the classified briefing GOPers would have had her prosecuted for leaking classified information. So spare me that BS, too.

    This was the worst, the most lawless, the most incompetent and the most dishonest group of fraudulent hucksters who ever inhabited our White House, the people’s house. their best legacy is a generation of pregressive government to clean up their messes.

  36. 50

    Marvin Stamn spews:

    49. Tom Foss spews:
    The revisionism of the GOP-ers is amazing and predictable.

     
    Are you disputing the quote?
      

    The lies, the false and cherry picked intelligence, the contrived evidence, the distortion of American values- hey Marvin that was not just “they” who said the lies. It was every one of the lying sacks of shit.

     
    Does that include democrats lying?
     
    Some democrats even used their position on the intelligence committe to bolster their opinion.
     
    “I come to this debate, Mr. Speaker, as one at the end of 10 years in office on the Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, where stopping the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction was one of my top priorities.

    Yes, he has chemical weapons, he has biological weapons, he is trying to get nuclear weapons.”
     Congresswoman Nancy Pelosi (Democrat, California)  Addressing the US House of Representatives
     October 10, 2002

     Congressional Record, p. H7777
     -=-=-=-=-= 
    “As a member of the Senate Intelligence Committee, I firmly believe that the issue of Iraq is not about politics. It’s about national security. We know that for at least 20 years, Saddam Hussein has obsessively sought weapons of mass destruction through every means available. We know that he has chemical and biological weapons today….”
     Senator John Edwards (Democrat, North Carolina)
     US Senate floor statement: “Iraqi Dictator Must Go”
     September 12, 2002

      

    BTW, had Pelosi said what she learned of the classified briefing GOPers would have had her prosecuted for leaking classified information.

     
    Is that her new excuse? Damn, every day she comes up with a new one.
    Of course they would have prosecuted her, right after they overturned roe vs wade.

  37. 51

    GBS spews:

    Apology to Marvin Stamn:

    I want to extend a genuine apology to you for calling you a faggot.

    You’re not a faggot and I retract that statement fully and completely.

    I’m sorry.

    GBS

  38. 52

    Tom Foss spews:

    Hey Marvin-

    Remember the comment that “you don’t launch new products in August?” That was August 2002 they referred to. They started trotting out the case in August, then went full bore to sell the war in September. Where did Edwards and Pelosi get their info then? See, the administration controlled all the info. Who did they base these statements on?

    September 8, 2002- Darth Cheney: On Meet the Press, stated that Saddam had the three elements needed to go Nuclear. He stated that Saddam had met Mohammed Atta in Prague. He talked of fissionable weapons grade uranium in Saddam’s hand. He talked about how they shared that info “WITH THE CONGRESS,” so now the burden is on Congress to act. Go back and read those news accounts or find the show in archives.

    Marvin, where did the Dems get their info on WDM? From the cherry picked intelligence of darth Cheney and the clan. See, they controlled all the info. The clasiffied briefings were done with no notes or paper. Post 9/11 and all that for security needs. And the later info on torture came out in late 2003, not 2002, and yes you admit they would have prosecuted her for saying what she had heard from their members who were briefed.

    You seem like you can think for yourself. Put down GOP-er talking points and try and read and then think for yourself. Check out Ron Susskind’s “The One percent Doctrine.” Jane Mayer’s “The Dark side.”

    This is not a question of party. Its a question of our values and who we are as a country, and what we will strive to be.

    “America should not go abroad in search of monsters to destroy. She might become the dictatress of the world: she would no longer be the ruler of her own spirit.” -John Quincy Adams, July 4, 1821.

    We lost our spirit for years. We need to find it again.

  39. 53

    Marvin Stamn spews:

    51. GBS spews:
    Apology to Marvin Stamn:
    I want to extend a genuine apology to you for calling you a faggot.

     
    Bullshit.
     
    I’ve said before I wasn’t offended by your bigoted insults, I consider the source.
      
    You’re not apologizing to me.
     
    You finally realized you outed yourself as a bigot.

  40. 54

    Marvin Stamn spews:

    51. GBS spews:
    Apology to Marvin Stamn:
    I want to extend a genuine apology to you for calling you a faggot.

     
    Like I said… BULLSHIT.
     
    You read manoshit & kikekiller use the same epitaph and realized how much you have in common with them.
     
    You then thought about how it makes you look.
     
    So now you want to apologize.
     
    How cute.
     
    Maybe use some of your great wealth to contribute to a gay cause or volunteer your time at a aids hospice if you want to relieve your guilt.

  41. 55

    GBS spews:

    Marvin Stamn:

    I reflected on my comment, realized it wasn’t appropriate, and made a public apology.

    Why the resistance on your part to accept it for what it is?

  42. 56

    Steve spews:

    I feel your pain, GBS. I too retracted the “faggot” and “cunt” remarks that I had directed towards Marvin after my having conversation with friends about what I’d written. Not wanting to offend anybody, well, human anyway, I no longer call Marvin a “goatfucking faggot cunt”. Sigh! I’m afraid it’s just going to have to suffice for me to simply call the little perv a “goatfucker” and leave it at that.

  43. 57

    GBS spews:

    53. Marvin Stamn spews:

    You’re not apologizing to me.

    You finally realized you outed yourself as a bigot.

    First, yes, I am apologizing to you.

    Second, if I were a bigot why would I apologize in the first place? It makes no sense.

    I realized I was wrong as you pointed out and tried to set the record straight. **no pun intended.**

    GBS

  44. 58

    Puddybud is shocked SHOCKED spews:

    Gotta Love CIA Chief Leon Panetta responding to the lies of Nancy Pelosi.

    You have to know Rahmbo and the messiah had to approve Panetta “coming out”.

    In the words of Jackie Gleason… “How sweet it is”.

  45. 59

    Puddybud is shocked SHOCKED spews:

    Tom Used Foss:

    Puddy placed the names of 13 countries including Putin’s Russia many times for the HA swineflu weasels which thought Saddam had WMD. We all know Russia is such a “great friend” of the US.

    What a tard the Fossman is!

  46. 60

    WatchmanOnTheWall spews:

    HMMMMMMMMM speaking of wmd where is colin powell?

    No one talks crap about him since he supported mack daddy oblahma…..

  47. 61

    Don Joe spews:

    @ 54

    Maybe use some of your great wealth to contribute to a gay cause or volunteer your time at a aids hospice if you want to relieve your guilt.

    Absolutely. After insulting gay people by calling Marvin a faggot, GBS owes them quite an apology.

  48. 63

    Puddybud is shocked SHOCKED spews:

    62 is not the original BLACK Puddy. Nice to have a sock puppet, albeit a moronic one.

    “CIA officers briefed truthfully on the interrogation of Abu Zubaydah, describing ‘the enhanced techniques that had been employed’. We are an agency of high integrity, professionalism and dedication. Our task is to tell it like it is — even if that’s not what people always want to hear. Keep it up. Our national security depends on it.” – CIA Director Leon Panetta (ex-Donkey, CA).

    Now that Nancy is losing her jockstraps she cums out with this whopper: “We all share great respect for the dedicated men and women of the intelligence community who are deeply committed to the safety and security of the American people. My criticism of the manner in which the Bush Administration did not appropriately inform Congress is separate from my respect for those in the intelligence community who work to keep our country safe. What is important now is to be united in our commitment to ensuring the security of our country; that, and how Congress exercises its oversight responsibilities, will continue to be my focus as we move forward.”

    She said the CIA lied fool. Now she has the temerity to think peeps will forget the bile from her lips earlier this week. Shucks, she had to read from a prepared statement, four or five times to make sure her lying story didn’t change. The “Lie To Me” show must have her worried as peeps are learning the facial expressions of continual lying Dummocraptics in Congress.

    By her own admission, agents did brief Congress about waterboarding Abu Zubaydah by early 2003;

  49. 64

    Marvin Stamn spews:

    63. Puddybud is shocked SHOCKED spews:
    62 is not the original BLACK Puddy. Nice to have a sock puppet, albeit a moronic one.

     
    Someone wants to be you. It’s a compliment.
     
    Strange that it’s only us trolls that people try to impersonate.
     
    After all, who would want to be steve?

  50. 65

    Puddybud is shocked SHOCKED spews:

    Continuing because Puddy ran out of time in the last post: …By her own admission, agents did brief Congress about waterboarding Abu Zubaydah by early 2003; and now she lies because her KookPink friends in SF are pizzed, pizzed, at her. When you have the freakshow as your support you have to become a freakshow to keep their support.

    “Oh, wait a minute, my NOTES are out of order”. – Nancy Pelosi

    Gotta love it when MSNBC, the new Dummocraptic mouthpiece asks her a question on it she blurts out: “We’re creating jobs, they created this.”

    Now the CIA has told Pelosi come on down and review the 2002/2003 meeting notes. Will Nancy have the guts? Doubt it.

  51. 66

    Puddybud is shocked SHOCKED spews:

    Puddy would love a Murtha – Pelosi Congressional ethics investigation. But it would be a sham. Why not add Feinstein in it for her steering many $$$Billions of Iraq funds to her husband’s companies while publicly complaining about Halliburton? She was the “rank”ing (smelled) member of the MILCON committee while she was doing her shenanigans. Or how about how her husband screwed up WRAMC? Puddy placed this many times on the HA swineflu weasel record.

  52. 67

    YLB spews:

    The not so subtle undertext here (subtlely is totally lost on Stupes) is that it was all the Dems fault.

    Just like it used to be Bill Clinton’s fault.

    The chimp and duck skate as always.

    Deflect, deflect, always deflect…

    Such moronic foolishness…

  53. 68

    Puddybud is shocked SHOCKED spews:

    Whatamoron@67,

    Again you talk from your ASS not from your head. Where did Puddy ever infer that fool? Her SF KookPink fool folks know they can’t make hay with a “truth” commission until she “clears herself”. You are as always a clueless wonder.

    Wait a minute… talking from his ASS. Of course you’s a HA swineflu weasel. Pay attention moron!