Open thread 3-25-05

Wow. Last week’s open thread collected over 450 comments. I guess I’m pretty much superfluous.


  1. 1

    Chee spews:

    Todays News. Clyde Bellecourt, Chippewa, Indian speaks out against Bush. Native Americans across the country and tribal leaders are anger at Bush. Bush called a session at midnight, pre-empted his vacation for Schiavo and ignored the Red River school shooting. Second-deadliest school shooting in the U.S. history, four days without a word of condolence from Bush. Clyde says,….” so-called Great White Father in Washington hasn’t said or done a thing.” Bush did propose cutting Indian programs by @100 million next year. G.W should know Jesus loves the red and yellow black and white alike.

  2. 3

    marks spews:

    Anyway, Goldy,

    For the present, you are correct, Mr. Superfluous.

    What is your record for comments in a single thread?

  3. 4

    Adriel spews:

    I could understand Why he went after the Schiavo case first, if they can’t understand why he did then that’s pretty pathetic. Send condolences to victims of the dead that will still be dead tomorrow or try to save a woman’s life that’s a toughy.

  4. 5

    Chee spews:

    Mark@ My Indian blood overtook me. Your just like what chardonny says Michael Shivavo is like, trying to control my every move. :-)

  5. 6

    jpgee spews:

    very touching comments adriel……what a nice guy you are…..hopefully you will never move into my neighborhood…..heaven forbid. The texas taco only lifts a finger when there potentially is political gain in the issue. Basically like yourself it seems

  6. 7

    Adriel spews:

    How do you tell the difference between a liberal and a conservative?

    Easy. Watch a man drowning fifty feet offshore.

    The conservative will throw out 25 feet of rope and shout “swim for it!”

    The liberal will toss out 50 feet of rope, drop his own end, and go off to do another good deed.

    Keep up the good deeds jpgee

  7. 8

    jpgee spews:

    wow, very original of you ardiel….I am truly impressed, the first time you have said anything here that is not 100% from the wacko neocon press guide..go lil guy go, there is still a glimmer of hope for you

  8. 9

    Chee spews:

    Adriel@4. Bill Clinton in 1990 ass soon as he heard about the Columbine shooting PUBLICALLY expressed his condolences and then followed up by a radio broadcast. He had a phone that may be why you don’t understnd the difference between dying and dying. If you have a hangup about Monica’s dress. least realize Bill had time for her too. :-)

  9. 10

    Chee spews:

    Gee I mispelled as, must been thinking of Cynical again. Ya gotta love that guy when he operates on one cylinder..

  10. 11

    Erik spews:

    Wow. Last week’s open thread collected over 450 comments. I guess I’m pretty much superfluous.

    Nah, the open thread gets all of the venting out built up during the week.

    Yeah multiple three figure postings. Not bad.

    SP is having a hard time getting more than 20 comments and has been nearly skunked a few times. How exciting an an excel spreadsheet be?

  11. 12

    marks spews:


    I am not sure what your aim is, other than miss. I don’t know how the feds will know anything about what is going on in a kid’s head. What I do know is, having unarmed security in a congregated setting is part of the rules for this particular case. I have no idea what your anger is about, but it should be directed at the rules, not the situation as applied.

    Bill Clinton is a master of feeling pain. Others are not…

  12. 13

    Adriel spews:

    That’s fine I was just making the point that one was more urgent than the other, I didn’t disagree that he should make an address about the shooting. I have to laugh at how fired up you guys get on very narrow issues, it use to be that you guys were all about protecting the weak and down trodden but in the last few years I’ve come to the conclusion that it’s all an act for power. You don’t stand for anything unless it is in your best interest for the moment at hand.

  13. 15

    Nindid spews:

    Adriel @4

    1) The point of condolences is not for the dead, but for the living. It is to show yourself as a leader who cares for all, not just Republican donors.

    2) PVS pretty much = dead unless you believe that 24+ judges and every credible doctor who has looked at her are in some sort of conspiracy.

  14. 17

    Unkl Witz spews:

    Hey, come on Erik:

    We thrive on the news that the ballot counts in precinct xxx don’t crossfoot, and someone actually marked thru a vote total in precinct yyy and wrote in a corrected number.

    This is big news to us since we don’t have much else to maintain our fervent hope that the feds will swoop in, arrest Gregoire, haul her away in chains, and declare Rossi the true king.

    After all, this election was conducted by highly paid guvment employees who should have achieved perfection, like the BIAW has shown in compiling their list of FELON voters.

    And let me tell you, there is no greater threat to our nation, our god, or our way of life than FELON voters. Forget the national debt, forget the economy, forget these distracting children shooting each other in our high schools, forget even the war on terrorism (gasp!). FELON voters are pure evil, and must be stamped out quickly and completely.

    Some of Shark’s more jugheaded fans have actually proposed:

    Checking all the voter rolls for “foreign sounding names,” and verifying they are legitimate voters,

    Hiring handwriting experts to review all the absentee ballots in King County for the fraudulent votes they are very confident they will find,

    AND (I swear I am not making this up) making illegal voting a capital crime!

    I hate to say it, but your missing the big show if you don’t tune in to SP occasionally.

  15. 18

    Chee spews:

    By marks at 12. I am not sure what your addressing like your unsure what I am addressing. In post 5, I was kidding in your response to you kidding me. Catch me up if you got a different take. My stand is Clinton is a sensitive guy, Bush goes for the show. Also, I think Bush should have made a call to Red River, was insensitive not to and common deceny to do so.

  16. 19

    nindid spews:

    Thanks Uncle – but I’ll happily miss that show thanks… I am up to my ears in fanaticism for one week.

  17. 21

    Don spews:

    Chee @ 10

    I had a one-cylinder motorbike when I was in college and it sounded about like Mr. Cynical. Maybe we should call him Mr. Cylinder. :D

  18. 25

    Unkl Witz spews:

    Hi Adriel:

    My name is Unkl Witz, and I’d like to chat with you for a moment about getting fired up on some very narrow issues.

    Let’s start with the premise that there is no better use of our government’s time than preventing the senseless loss of human life.

    I may be mistaken, but your posts seem to imply that you felt it was entirely appropriate that our national legislative bodies invoke a midnight session, pass a law exclusive to a single citizen of our country and that the president of the United States interrupt his busy and important schedule to fly back and sign this legislation.

    All the while, there are 20,000 children in Africa who will die tomorrow from the same malady that Mrs. Schaivo suffers, malnutrition and lack of water. That’s 20,000 CHILDREN, not brain dead adults, CHILDREN, fully formed, fully conscious, and fully capable of feeling the excruciating pain of dehydration and malnutrition, will die.

    Oh, and by the way, the next day, the day after tomorrow, Easter Sunday for the us lucky souls here in the USA, while we’re out hunting for overcooked eggs, 20,000 more CHILDREN will die, of the same malady. And the day after that, Monday, 20,000 more children will die, again of the same malady, and again, and again.

    Forgive me if I was just a little taken aback by your comment regarding over-focus on narrow issues.

  19. 26

    Don spews:

    Adriel @ 13

    You can’t protect and weak and downtrodden or much of anything else if you’re out of power, can you?

  20. 28

    Don spews:

    UW @ 17

    “Hiring handwriting experts to review all the absentee ballots in King County for the fraudulent votes they are very confident they will find”

    I assume they want to do this on the public dime but they’ll donate a bullet when they find one?

  21. 29

    Adriel spews:

    “You can’t protect and weak and downtrodden or much of anything else if you’re out of power, can you?” – don

    Who’s to blame for that? I think somebody may have forgot the will of the people (Christain and Secular both) does matter and because of this oversight didn’t get voted in.

  22. 30

    Unkl Witz spews:

    Actually Don, I thought it was a pretty good idea that they spend their own money on the project. I’ve made several posts encouraging them to do so.

  23. 31

    Chee spews:

    UnkiWitz. Boy are you right about Bush’s selective nature. I have heard more people make your comparision without the figures. If he had the power he would probably set up a selective breeding program like Hitler or have himself cloned to death.

  24. 33

    Unkl Witz spews:


    My sense is that George is painfully aware of his own shortcomings and probably wouldn’t indulge in such a venture. After all, he already has some real life evidence in his own daughters.

    George knows he was born under a lucky star and is willing to roll the dice to see that out. His war in Iraq is the best evidence. He’s convinced it will propel him onto MT Rushmore, and if not, he’s gonna be dead anyway. Why not go for it.

    The sad part is the tens, scores, probably hundreds of thousands of human lives he is willing parley into this bid for his place in history. He’s not alone, many others have behaved in a very similar fashion.

  25. 34

    Chee spews:

    Unki Witz @ 33. You have a bright mind. What I find to be disheartening is while I do believe I see in Bush’s face that he does have some true remorse when American soldiers come home in a body bag, I believe his actions in the Schiavo case was self oriented (1) political, boost for Bush and Party. (2) As man that declared war, he sees the loss of lives due to that and to relieve some of his guilt he turned to Terri, overcompensating for his guilt, wanting to be look like the compassionate Samaritan, the hero that saved her life.

  26. 35

    Chee spews:

    Uncle Witz@33. Before I sign off here, I want to say that being a President ages men very fast. It is a tough road, you can not please everyone and critics sling mud. I recall one President’s wife that refused to read the news. There is some good in most everyone or let’s hope so. I see Bush’s bad side and good side. He is cocky, sometimes that is good and bad. Some of policies don’t gell with me from the bleachers. While I have compassion for the Schiavo ordeal, I firmly believe it is not government’s business. Really been a turnoff to many of Bush’s supporters and his oppostion also. A lot of fence riders fell off over this issue alone.

  27. 38

    Don spews:

    Chee @ 34

    As long as we’re psychoanalyzing King George, I may as well throw in my two cents. I think he’s just a frat boy who never grew up.

  28. 39

    Diggindude spews:

    Hey look, anonym”ass” is back, and he is using “ANOTHER” alias, like he did last night!

    Well I see the coward boy still won’t answer. How typical and predictable.

    Diggindude, I know what you see when you look in the mirror.

    You see a big, fat ZERO… a moral cipher…a vacuum of nothing… a non-entity with the courage, the honesty, the moral convictions of a slug…the moral values of a useless bowl of leftover jello who cannot face the world, who cannot face an anonymous forum, who cannot face himself and say unambigously…


    I cannot fathom how anyone can exist without a moral compass, without a guiding philosophy…or why they would want to. I cannot fathom pretending to be a human with the core values of a rock.

    Good luck, you poor, empty, pitiful being… you really are going to need it.

    Comment by theREALanonymous1

    Wow, you can see all that?
    You really got me pegged!
    I’ll have to admit, these things you’ve posted for all to see, are very enlightening.
    And here i thought i was schoolin ya!?
    wow, you sure showed me!!
    I know a place you would really like!
    Its over at
    Theres never any waiting, as no one posts there except christmasghost and chardummy.
    You would fit right in, they are all intellectuals, just like you.
    I’m very proud of you, in the way you can address the issues, by following one person around like this.
    You’ve made such a difference here, even goldy feels threatened by you brilliance.
    Are you going to share some of your profound logic and reason again like you did last night?

  29. 40

    Don spews:

    I’ll bet Mr. Cynical snores like a one cylinder chain saw, too. I have no idea why Mrs. C puts up with him. He’s probably using her as a meal ticket. I don’t think he works. Hey Cynical, are you out there? I’m insulting you, you old fart!!!

  30. 41

    Diggindude spews:

    well anonym”ASSHOLE”?
    Are you going to share some profound logic and wisdom, like christm”ass”ghost and char”dummy” do?
    Come on, I’m waiting for you to perform, guppy!

  31. 42

    zapporo spews:

    Adriel @all — It’s pretty amusing to watch this blog these days. Chock full of flaming liberals.
    Especially jpgee.
    Just a little light in the sandals.
    Not quite ready for the AP class kind of kids.
    Not even ready for the remedial class kind of kids.
    Dr. Seuss reading 101 is just the ticket for them.
    Soon they may develop the ability to speak with words of more than one syllable. Including the non-profane words too.
    One could only hope.
    The kind of arithmetic geniuses that can take one vote, add one vote, and end up with hundreds of fraudulent votes for their shrewlike crony. And then shout out how our elections are a model for the world.
    Actually that doesn’t take any intelligence either, just a few ballots, a big black marker and some friends in the election department. Wink, wink.
    The kind of people that would pull the plug on a helpless, defenseless woman while defending her adulterous husband because they lack any trace of manhood or honor.
    And do you notice how they all pile on when it’s just you hanging around? Misfits with no heart, no courage, no dignity.
    Yes, liberalism is certainly shining its light in this wrenched pestiferous corner of the blogsphere.

  32. 43

    Erik spews:

    Hiring handwriting experts to review all the absentee ballots in King County for the fraudulent votes they are very confident they will find,

    Yeah. They have done that already but come with Nada…(again)

  33. 44

    theREALanonymous1 spews:

    You know what I noticed there dude old pal?

    You don’t seem to have the courage to share the thread upon thread upon thread where you were called out to name the philosophy by which you live.. the ones that you steadfastly ignored and refused to answer.

    Courage in your insults, but none in your convictions.

  34. 45

    Diggindude spews:

    I cannot fathom how anyone can exist without a moral compass, without a guiding philosophy…or why they would want to. I cannot fathom pretending to be a human with the core values of a rock.

    Good luck, you poor, empty, pitiful being… you really are going to need it.

    Comment by theREALanonymous1

    dam, anonym
    ass” will you quit stalking me?
    Are you a homosexual?
    just asking, you seem kinda girly…….

  35. 47

    Diggindude spews:

    Ya, i noticed that too!
    You’d think after all the ass kickin i gave ya, i could at least stand up and atone.
    It feels kinda icky to have a dude stalkin me.
    Are you registered?

  36. 49

    Diggindude spews:

    Ummmm…..nope, i guess not.
    I feel kinda good about it actually.
    Unburdened as it were.
    How bout you?
    You comin outta that closet tonight or not?

  37. 50

    Mrs. Cynical spews:

    Don @ 40

    Re: Mr. C snoring like a chainsaw. Now you have really hit a nerve! He snores so badly I have to wear noise canceling headphones with bag pipe music playing just to be able to sleep!

    On another thread you were wondering whether Mr. C was so “colorful” in lovemaking. I really cannot comment, except to say that the Saturday morning cartoons playing on the plasma screen in the background DO add a little color.

    Finally, Don, I doubt Mr. C will regain consciousness tonight. The poor dear had a tough week, and he will never admit it, but I think he has given up hope for Rossi. Thanks for thinking of him, though, I think he deeply values the relationship you two have developed on this forum!

    Hugs and kisses!

  38. 51

    theREALanonymous1 spews:



    Are you a homosexual?
    just asking, you seem kinda girly……. -Comment by Diggindude— 3/25/05 @ 10:17 pm

    Proudly and bravely exhibits his racism, but no courage to reveal his moral philosophy.

  39. 52

    Diggindude spews:

    I just figured you werent the butch.
    You dont seem too masculine.
    Who are you hollering for?
    These people probably dont like you any better than I do.

  40. 53

    Diggindude spews:

    Oh, anonym”ass”……….. is homophobia a racial thing?
    Just askin, i really dont know.

  41. 54

    theREALanonymous1 spews:

    Please keep on dude…continue showing the world your bravery.

    It’s actually kind of amusing that you want to share publicly the fact that you were bitch-slapped.

    Why don’t you tell all your friends they can see the complete saga of your bitch-slapping over in last weeks ‘open thread’?

  42. 55

    Diggindude spews:

    Oh ya. I emailed them all a copy, didnt you get one?
    Oh, i sent yours to your christmasghost screen name.
    Why arent you using that name tonight?
    Are you ashamed of being called christmasghost now?
    Its probably because of that lame website,, where nobody posts except you three.

  43. 56

    theREALanonymous1 spews:

    LOL – now there’s a scathing insult dude!

    Please keep on dude… continue showing the world your bravery.

    Still no moral courage?

    Aren’t you ashamed to have your cowardice on parade?


  44. 57

    Diggindude spews:

    Doesn’t seem to be affecting me in any way as far as I can tell.
    Hear that little buzzing sound?
    Right near my ear……………Oh, its you!!
    Was homophobic a racial slur?
    Is that what you were saying? I didn’t get exactly what you were trying to say back there.
    What was that slaaaaap?
    Did somebody swat you?

  45. 58

    Diggindude spews:

    come on DD, spill it,
    that is his moral compass. the great exhaulted elroy, teacher of how to twist bible verses to suit your current argument.

    Comment by chardonnay

    Oh is this the real chardummy, or the imposter?
    Are you the one that said michael beat his wife, and that the judges and doctors were all in a big conspiracy..
    What is elroy, is this your website?

  46. 60

    Diggindude spews:

    ceci is a communist, of course she is another anti war, anti biz, anti american, anti life, um, like you. she is a once in a while, only if we have to, Fox contributor when juan williams is not available because someone else “actually” requested his commie views. token liberal to make it fair and balanced (liberal being out of balance)

    posted by chardonnay

    God, you sure are a vicious nasty bitch, no wonder youre single.

  47. 61

    Diggindude spews:

    more lies and b.s. how to steal elections, how to cheat the system, how to promote ‘tolerance’ (sexual orientation to children,barney frank) and ‘diversity’ (humanism) anti war rally tips, how to force global warming down the throats of the mass without mentioning algores name. lies, more lies and ,ore lies. how the democrat ideology is so similar to communism. how communism is “a good thing”, how to work less at your union job as to create job security. how to brainwash the unskilled into thinking they deserve to be paid the same as the owner of the biz.

    ya, been there, seen the bs the dems spew, dont but it one bit. but thanks dude, nice of you to keep us all informed.

    posted by chardonnay

    Jesus chardummy, wtf are you babbling about?

  48. 62

    theREALanonymous1 spews:

    Dorothy: My Goodness, what a fuss you’re making. Well naturally, when you go around picking on things weaker than you are. Why, you’re nothing but a great big coward.

    Cowardly Lion:(playing Diggindude) [crying] You’re right, I am a coward! I haven’t any courage at all. I even scare myself.

    Cowardly Lion:(playing Diggindude) Look at the circles under my eyes. I haven’t slept in weeks.

    Tin Woodsman: Why don’t you try counting sheep?

    Cowardly Lion:(playing Diggindude) That doesn’t do any good. I’m afraid of them.
    [sobs loud]

  49. 63

    chardonnay spews:

    chee @ 9
    your boy slickster was a real upstanding citizen. well maybe UP is not the correct…..has there ever been any good dem presidents?

  50. 64

    Diggindude spews:

    Dam, I’ve never had a groupie before.
    Kinda gives me a feeling of power. Fetch me a beer groupie.

  51. 66

    chardonnay spews:

    A @ 62

    gawd that is funny. He doesn’t sleep either, he will post at all hours.
    Oh DD, whatsthematta, you don’t like my views? please explain to me what part of what I said is not true. Please.

  52. 68

    theREALanonymous1 spews:

    Chicken, chicken,
    You can’t cluck too much for me.
    Chicken, chicken,
    Now come down off of that tree.
    Chicken, chicken, chicken,
    You can’t cluck too much for me.

    “C” is for the little chick
    “H” for the momma hen
    “I” cause I love that bird
    “C” for the cluck, cluck
    “K” for the Kackle, Kackle
    “E” and the little “N”
    That’s the way to spell chicken
    That’s my friend, the chicken.

  53. 69

    chardonnay spews:

    maybe it would help if you would apply some of your old tactics, disect, spin and twist.

  54. 70

    Diggindude spews:

    Will a beer give you moral courage Mr COwardly Lion?
    sheep? I’m afraid of them. I am a coward! I even scare myself.

    Comment by theREALanonymous1

    now now, its only a beer, dont worry.
    I wont try to scare you anymore.
    Why are you so afraid of me?
    You must really fear the truth to be developing such a crush on me.
    I gotta tell ya, my pendulum just dont swing that way.
    I know to a stalker that probably doesnt mean too much, but for what its worth……

  55. 71

    jpgee spews:

    zapporo @ 42 and aren’t you the fortunate one. They let you keep posting your ‘wisdom’ here freely. Try and do that at your holy graile, unSP and see where ‘freedom of speach’ gets you. You and your kind are always welcome here. We need a good circus act like that to keep our sense of humor.

  56. 72

    Diggindude spews:

    Chicken, chicken,
    You can’t cluck too much for me.
    Chicken, chicken,
    Now come down off of that tree.
    Chicken, chicken, chicken,
    You can’t cluck too much for me.

    “C” is for the little chick
    “H” for the momma hen
    “I” cause I love that bird
    “C” for the cluck, cluck
    “K” for the Kackle, Kackle
    “E” and the little “N”
    That’s the way to spell chicken
    That’s my friend, the chicken.

    Comment by theREALanonymous1

  57. 79

    Don spews:

    Mrs. C @ 50

    My suggestion is put duct tape over his nose. Cures snoring every time. While you’re at it, pull his feeding tube too.

  58. 80

    theREALanonymous1 spews:

    Main Entry: coward
    Part of Speech: noun
    Definition: afraid person
    Synonyms: alarmist, baby, big baby, caitiff, chicken, chicken liver, chicken-heart, craven, cur, dastard, deserter, DIGGINDUDE, faint-of-heart, fraidy cat, funk, gutless, gutless wonder, invertebrate, jellyfish, lily-liver, malingerer, milksop, milquetoast, mollycoddle, mouse, nerd, pessimist, poltroon, punk, quitter, rabbit, recreant, scaredy-cat, shirk, shirker, sissy, skulker, sneak, turkey, weak sister, weakling, white liver, yellow, yellow-belly


    Main Entry: gutless
    Part of Speech: adjective
    Definition: timid
    Synonyms: abject, chicken, coward, cowardly, craven, DIGGINDUDE, faint-hearted, feeble, irresolute, lily-livered, pusillanimous, spineless, submissive, unmanly, weak


    Main Entry: weakling
    Part of Speech: noun
    Definition: baby
    Synonyms: big baby, butt, chicken, chicken heart, coward, cream puff, crybaby, DIGGINDUDE, doormat, dotard, drip, fraidy cat, gutless wonder, invertebrate, jellyfish, ladyfinger, lily liver, mama’s boy, mark, milksop, milquetoast, misfit, mouse, namby-pamby, nebbish, nerd, pantywaist, paper tiger, pushover, sad sack, scaredy-cat, shrinking violet, sissy, softie, sucker, tenderfoot, turkey, weak sister, weak tool, wimp, wuss, yellow-belly

  59. 83

    Don spews:


    I’m tired of posting as “Don.” Henceforth, I shall post as “Dubyasux” which better represents my personality and political orientation.

  60. 84

    chardonnay spews:

    DD @ 70
    M schiavo is the stalker. watch out, yourvery own party backs him. LIFE RING NOW?

  61. 85

    Diggindude spews:

    I dont know any stalkers in my party.
    stalkers are cowards, that hide behind anonym”ass” names.

  62. 88

    Anonym"ass" spews:

    I hereby change my name to anonym”ass”, because as we all know, anonym”ass” posters, are cowards, and we stick together.

  63. 91

    theREALanonymous1 spews:

    Dude, tuck in your stupidity, your foolishness is hanging out again…

    EVERYONE postind in this forum, with the exception of David Goldman, is posting ANONYMOUSLY.

    Can you be more foolish??

  64. 93

    Anonym\\\ spews:

    Wow, char, you’re without, and this “guy” sure sounds lonely, are you thinkin what i’m thinkin?
    Doesn’t sound like he likes girls, but you hate men, he hates women, who knows?

  65. 94

    theREALanonymous1 spews:

    Oh give Dude a home,
    Where the Chickenhearts roam
    And the fools and the liberals all play,
    Where always is heard
    An insulting, foul word
    And the loonies all come out to play.

  66. 95

    anonym"ass" spews:

    EVERYONE postind in this forum, with the exception of David Goldman, is posting ANONYMOUSLY

    Oh dont try to apologize now, fruity ass.
    You already tried making excuses for being a rump wrangler, now you want to be “just like everyone else?”

  67. 97

    theREALanonymous1 spews:

    fruity ass.
    You already tried making excuses for being a rump wrangler,
    Comment by anonym”ass” AKA, DIGGINDUDE— 3/25/05 @ 11:44 pm

    “… And the fools and the liberals all play,
    Where always is heard
    An insulting, foul word …”

  68. 98

    chardonnay spews:

    DD @ 60
    tell me dude, when your wife disagrees with you, how do you treat her? similar to your #60 post?

  69. 100

    theREALanonymous1 spews:

    “Ah no! young blade! That was a trifle short! You might have said at least a hundred things By varying the tone. . .like this, suppose,. . .” and proceeds to insult his own nose with numerous clever comments, ending with “Such, my dear sir, is what you might have said, had you of wit or letters the least jot: But, O most lamentable man!–of wit you never had an atom, and of letters you have three letters only!–they spell Ass! And–had you had the necessary wit, to serve me all the pleasantries I quote before this noble audience. . .e’en so, you would not have been let to utter one– nay, not the half or quarter of such jest!” -Cyrano DeBergerac

  70. 102

    Diggindude spews:

    well, you’ve ruined another thread.
    I’m proud of you, but i’m not sure what anyone else thinks.

  71. 107

    theREALanonymous1 spews:

    Sleep well, cowardly dude.

    Try not to toss and turn and fret over your moral vacuity.

    Try not to think of how foolish you’ve made your self by NOT answering the simple moral question posed to you in last weeks ‘open thread’.

    Try not to worry that you brought your own reputation as a coward and a homophobia right smack into the latest thread for all to see.

    Nighty night Dudester

  72. 113

    jpgee spews:

    theREALanonymous1 and all he/she/its nicknames is getting very boring around here. Constantly ruining decent discussions with her/him/its perverted sense of reality. Must be the concubine of cynicalidiot

  73. 116

    theREALanonymous1 spews:

    I think you’ve made us all look like fools.
    And I just helped you do it. -Comment by Diggindude— 3/26/05 @ 12:05 am

    Finally an honest liberal!
    I’m taking a screen shot of THAT gem!

    Nighty night dude.

    Remember, try not to fret over the exposure of your moral cowardice.

  74. 118

    zapporo spews:

    Don @77 — Actually, I spend less and less time here every day. As soon as the election trial commences and the depositions begin, I think this blog may become very lively though. We have suffered through conjecture for far too long and it’s time to put some reality, some finality in place.

    People with humor and wit, even on this blog, I can appreciate, perhaps even grudgingly respect, regardless of their mistaken beliefs.
    (And yes Goldy, that includes you too.)

  75. 119

    Mr. Cynical spews:

    Goldy’s A$$holes–
    You set a record Goldy for the same 5 people going at it.
    Big Deal.

    The LEFTISTS here can all kiss my derriere!

    GOLDY ought to start a new club for his little pinheaded LEFTIST buddies called the KingCo Bonehead Club.

    Your LEFTIST motto is:
    To strive to learn more and more about less and less until eventually you know everything about NOTHING!

  76. 120

    Chee spews:

    GOLDY: Is the scent in here Spring Bouquet or the fragrance of Easter lilies to celebrate crucifixtion? The air is stale, could you spray it again. :-)

  77. 121

    bf spews:

    Darn, I was hoping for some intelligent conversation. Oh well, I’ll just come back another day.

  78. 122

    Dubyasux (formerly Don) spews:

    zap @ 119

    “We have suffered through conjecture for far too long and it’s time to put some reality, some finality in place.”

    Be patient, Judge Bridges will grant your wish in due time — i.e., putting an end to conjecture, and putting finality in place.

    As the wackos in Florida are rapidly learning, even conservative judges aren’t for sale.

  79. 123

    Dubyasux (formerly Don) spews:

    Malfunctioning Brain Stem Cells @ 120

    Oh Mrs. C, your hubby’s brain implant is going haywire again! Must be cell phone interference. Give him another jolt from the car battery, will ya?

  80. 124

    Dubyasux (formerly Don) spews:

    This screen name got me thrown off Free Republic. They accused me of being a “troll.” Can you imagine that?

  81. 126

    zapporo spews:

    Cynical @120 – Bravo. Someone unafraid to tell the truth. I was thinking exactly the same thing myself. I’m guessing that you light up this blog as a matter of civic duty? a sense of honor and commitment to this country? Or just love to poke fun at stupid liberals?

  82. 127

    Chee spews:

    Don@124. Why Republican Bush is fighting stem cell research. Bush knows that cynical conservatives who act like they were dropped on their heads as babies give the party a bad name and doesn’t want to take anymore chances than he already has. Now don’t read anymore into this please. :-)

  83. 130

    bf spews:

    Why all the name-calling?

    When it comes to the point that there is no more reasonable discussion, what happens to our Union? Do we start to kill each other? Is this where we are headed?

    You know, when Clinton was president, he drove me crazy. Why? Because he was so dam politically talented. That man could make anyone believe that he cared for him or her. He was totally and completely poll driven and that drove me crazy. He didn’t do a thing without the wind of the polls behind his back. He was successful because he triangulated republican issues, welfare reform, etc. and then sold them as his own. He convinced you all (demo’s) that welfare reform was a good thing. Which is interesting because republicans had been fighting to reform welfare for years, all the while being demonized.

    Why do I say this? Because I am not sure that any of us, republicans or democrats, stands for anything other than what the other party argues against.

    That is a sad state of affairs.

  84. 131

    theREALanonymous1 spews:

    jpgee@114. Calling people COWARDS is the multiple persona’s favorite word accompanied with constantly demanding, answer the question. -Comment by Chee— 3/26/05 @ 12:45 pm

    When a person studiously avoids answering a simple question, they ARE a coward.

    Everyone stand UP and sing along now… you know the tune (the Oscar Meyer Weiner ditty):

    (Oh) Dude wishes he could be an honest liberal,
    That is what he’d really like to be.
    ‘Cuz if he were a really honest liberal
    He’d tell everyone he’s oh so cowardly!

  85. 136

    Dubyasux spews:

    Bf @ 131

    That’s a simplistic view of welfare reform. The AFDC program was in existence from the 1930s until 1994 or thereabouts. This country had plenty of experience with “welfare” and most professionals working the field knew our welfare system wasn’t working (and many suspected it was counterproductive) for a long time but there was no consensus on how to fix it. Of course, a powerful welfare rights lobby developed over the years, who fiercely resisted change and constantly demanded more welfare funding. The breakthrough, if it can be said there was one, occurred when politicians recognized and acted on the fact that moving people from welfare to work required removing obstacles to employment such as lack of work skills, and no transportation or child care. When work requirements and time limits were coupled with funding for training, child care, and transportation assistant, welfare reform succeeded beyond anyone’s wildest imaginations in terms of the numbers of people who left welfare rolls. It was not Republican politicians who pushed this funding through, and when Republicans got into power this funding was among the first spending they attacked. So, I’m sorry, the GOP gets no credit because they didn’t support the key ingredients that made welfare reform work, and since taking power have consistently undermined welfare-to-work programs.

  86. 137

    Chee spews:

    BF@131. Regarding my post@133. You said, “He convinced you all (demo’s) that welfare reform was a good thing.” My point went over your head. Try this: All demo’s are not Charley McCarthy dummies. Your throwing your voice, speaking for all Demo’s when saying he convinced you all (demo;s)…That is what a ventriloquist does. What you said is something you do not know. The ALL word. Get it.

  87. 138

    chardonnay spews:

    don @ 137
    if your N.O.W. and Planned parenthood groups had not promoted free sex with no responsibility, welfare would never been out of control. The Humanism movement has failed all you liberals. Nice try spinning the blame tho. Clinton had no choice but to sign onto the Republican bill, he was about to be impeached for “not having sex…..(bite lip). But we expected nothing more from him and Hillary cattle futures Rodham. They are the epitomy of the 1973 Manifesto. Man is GOD, captain of his own destiny, religion is puritanical, free sex for all swingers, just abort that tissue, 43 million times.
    Now it seems the result is a shortage of 43 million payee’s into another LIBERAL SOCIAL PROGRAM, Social Security. Ironic isn’t it. Somehow I predict you circle jerking this into being the Republicans fault.

  88. 139

    chardonnay spews:

    retraction, 46 million.

    Humanist Manifesto II

    “we believe that intolerant attitudes, often cultivated by orthodox religions and puritanical cultures, unduly repress sexual conduct. The right to abortion, birth control and divorce should be recognized. It also includes recognition of an individuals right to die with dignity, euthanasia and right to suicide.”
    signed by
    *Ed Doerr-American United for Separation of Church and State
    *Alan Guttmacher-Planned Parenthood
    *Betty Friedan-National Orgasm of Women
    among many others. lets see, do these groups contribute to Democrats campaigns?
    Y E S and Y E S

  89. 141

    Dubyasux spews:

    chardummy @ 139

    Since when does free sex with no responsibility need promoting? I’m pretty sure that was going on long before N.O.W. or Planned Parenthood were invented.

  90. 142

    JCH spews:

    King County, Philly, Detroit, Chicago, Milwaukee……..All Democrat controlled cities, and all corrupt. Democrats: voter felons. Every city controled by Democrats is corrupt and dishonest. Harare, Zimbabwe is another commie lib Democrat example.

  91. 143

    K spews:

    Chardonnay @ 137

    Many years ago when my wife and I were poor students, we went to PLanned Perenthood for CONTRACEPTION (the pill). We have celebreated many years of marrige and raised three kids. Never did use government programs along the way, other than our fine state university system. Paid our own way.

    THrowing dirt on PP may advance arguement. It just shows the bankrupcy of your position.

  92. 144

    K spews:

    Followup to Chard.

    Remember why United Way dropped PP? Because of their support for abortion. How does that fit welfae out of control?

  93. 145

    Mr. Cynical spews:

    zapporo @ 127

    It is our civic duty to make certain these pinheaded Left WingNuts are constantly reminded the Right is right on their asses.
    Have you notice how oh so serious and oh so self-righteous some of these pinheads are? My God they are uptight and ANGRY! I can just picture jpgee with his skinny limp-wrists falpping his skinny little hands in a rage. He is a real girly man who proudly marches in the Gay Pride Parade every day (even if he is the parade…most days). I wonder what jpgee’s LIFE PARTNER is like? Probably some dude with hair on his knuckles and back name Hoss!

  94. 146

    chardonnay spews:

    Since our founding in 1966, NOW’s goal has been “to take action” to bring about equality for all women. EXCEPT TERRI THE CATHOLIC
    In 2004, the March for Women’s Lives became the largest mass action of any kind in U.S. history
    We have very disturbing news to report – some Democratic leaders are actively recruiting anti-abortion candidates and forcing out pro-choice Democrats!
    We must let the Democrats know that women will no longer be taken for granted: When Democrats do not support women, we will not support them.
    The 2004 elections were not all bad news. The election victories of three up-and-coming NOW PAC-endorsed candidates are definitely worth relishing. The list of newly elected members of the House of Representative includes Gwen Moore, D-Wis., Debbie Wasserman Schultz, D-Fla., and Allyson Schwartz, D-Pa. — all proven feminist legislators at the state level.

    State Senator and longtime NOW member Debbie Wasserman Schultz has built a strong record in support of women’s rights, reproductive rights, LGBT rights, and children’s issues in the Florida legislature. EXCEPT TERRI THE CATHOLIC

    For equality,
    (and TERRI’S death)

    Kim Gandy, National Organization for Women PAC
    Eleanor Smeal, Feminist Majority PAC
    Martha Burk
    Dolores Huerta
    Marie Wilson
    Faye Wattleton
    Gloria Steinem

  95. 147

    K spews:

    I admit I came in late and did not go all the way back in this thread, but tracking back on the last few from Mr C @145 (125, 120), is there anything else but congratulating yourselves for being so right (Right-wing?)? What’s your point?

    I am a proud liberal. I do not believe it’s a dirty word. I’m sometimes serious and angry, but rarely uptight. I also grew up believing honest people could disagree and be civil. I believed we grew up in a country where you could disagree with an individual but support their right to express their opinion without disparaging their character.

    And I think it’s my civic duty to remind you of that.

  96. 149

    K spews:

    Terri’s case is tragic. But there have been many in the judicial branch , both demo and rep appointees who have reviewed and established the course we are on. Is is inconvenient, but the line between life and death, humanity and biological tissue sustained by machinery is not a clean one. And the press is not an accurate source to make the call. If one of us dies in a car accident, they can keep our heart, kidneys. corneas, skin and who knows what else viable for transplant. DOes that mean we are still alive?

    Have you ever seen the media from the inside? The “facts” are crafted to the story line desired. Given a choice between media story lines and a caes considered for a decade by 20+ judges, I chose the judicial view.

    And I am a Catholic.

  97. 150

    K spews:

    Since it’s open thread, and it’s also late, I’ll wander….

    When I grew up (and damn, my kids are right I am getting old) we believed better to let ten guilty men (yes, we thought in terms of men) go free than imprison one innocent one.

    In 1770 John Adams defended the British soldiers who fired the shots in the Boston Massacre. What polititian today would?

    Where has my country gone?

  98. 151

    chardonnay spews:

    yes, PP good, parents bad.
    PP who will give your child an abortion behind your back. PP that promotes and encourages adolescent sexuality (see their web site). Tell me, what do the abortion clinics do with aborted fetuses?
    Follow the money.

  99. 153

    bf spews:

    My main problem with the “pro” abortion movement is this; I want to know if my child is going in for an abortion, I want to be there for her. How is it that a child under 18 requires parental consent for a tattoo and not for an abortion?

  100. 154

    chardonnay spews:

    my main problem with it is that it’s sold to society as “choice” a form of birth control. When in reality it is a biz selling baby body parts for research hiding under tha names of bioethics and NIH National Institute of Health. flesh trade.

    Celebrate LIFE

  101. 156

    jpgee spews:

    CynicalIdiot, your ignorance shows more each day, your posts usually do not merit replies. So sad for you

  102. 157

    jpgee spews:

    and here we go again, the Seattle Times article on Delay is very enlightening.
    http://seattletimes.nwsource.c.....lay27.html Seems he was in the basic same position 16 years ago with his father..and guess what? HE agreed with his family to pull the plugs and tubes and let his father pass on because that is what his father would have wanted…… what an upright, stand up, straight arrow type of guy this Delay….. seems very similiar to CynicalIdiot….doesn’t matter what the facts are….I AM RIGHT…..because I SAID SO

  103. 158

    Chee spews:

    Prudes, celibates and asexuals have a right to obstain from pre-marital sex and a right to release their throbber. Slam it up against the wall or take matter in hand. Course no moralist and or conservative would grab the Dial and froth away just like no priest would molest young boys. The word Adultry comes from the ten commandments, another “thou shalt not.” Side by side with “thou shalt not bear false witness.” When it comes to RELIGION, the moralists and the conservatives don’t have a prayer if they think they a right to DICTATE, impose their sexual hangups and sexual doctrine on everyone. Dictator are always fanatics, control freaks who wants to impose their will on all others. Adultry is not against real law YET nor is whacking away. I suppose you cons will think I support masterbation, well I don’t. It supports me. Hardy-Har!

  104. 160

    jpgee spews:

    Chee @ 160 he reminds me more of the Wizard of Oz…hide behind your curtains and pray like hell no one asks any questions or does any research

  105. 161

    Chee spews:

    jpgee@161: Sure enough pulled Tom’s curtain, like the TINMAN in OZ, Tom needs a real heart. Glad you followed the Yeller Brick’s Road. Dam this Pc, it keeps typing a B where A P should be! :-)

  106. 163

    theREALanonymous1 spews:

    How Liberalism Failed Terri Schiavo
    Eric Cohen is editor of the New Atlantis and resident scholar at the Ethics and Public Policy Center

    This is what ideological liberalism now seems to believe–whether in regard to early human embryos, or late-stage dementia patients, or fetuses with Down syndrome. And in the end, the Schiavo case is just one more act in modern liberalism’s betrayal of the vulnerable people it once claimed to speak for. Instead of sympathizing with Terri Schiavo–a disabled woman, abandoned by her husband, seen by many as a burden on society–modern liberalism now sympathizes with Michael Schiavo, a healthy man seeking freedom from the burden of his disabled wife and self-fulfillment in the arms of another. And while one would think that divorce was the obvious solution, this was more than Michael Schiavo apparently could bear, since it would require a definitive act of betrayal instead of a supposed demonstration of loyalty to Terri’s wishes.

    On March 18, 2005, the day her feeding tube was removed, Terri Schiavo was not dead or dying. She was a profoundly disabled person in need of constant care. And despite the hopes of her parents, it was unlikely that her medical condition would improve, even with the best possible care administered by those with her best interests at heart. But even in her incapacitated state, Terri Schiavo was still a human being, a member of the Schindler family and the human family. As such, she was still worthy of protection and care, even if some of those closest to her wished to deny it.

  107. 165

    theREALanonymous1 spews:

    …We can’t know which camp we’d fall into until it happens to us. And it behooves us to maintain a certain modesty about presuming to speak for others — even those we know well. Example: ”Driving down there, I remember distinctly thinking that Chris would rather not live than be in this condition.” That’s Barbara Johnson recalling the 1995 accident of her son Christopher Reeve. Her instinct was to pull the plug; his was to live.

  108. 166

    Chee spews:

    HAPPY EASTER to all you thread barren liberals. HAPPY EASTER to all you rich pompous extremists. HAPPY EASTER too to all those undecided skeptics that don’t believe Peter Rabbit doesn’t lay those chicken eggs he carries. This is a day of rememberance. I remember this story and the moral in it. There was a flock of extremists gathered in the square stoneing a woman for her adulterious ways. Jesus came passing by and said, “he that is without sin cast the first stone. A stone came flying from behind where Jesus stood and he turned to look who had thrown it and said, “Sometimes Mother you really piss me off.”

  109. 167

    bf spews:

    jpgee@158 There is a vital difference, between Delay’s case and the Schiavo case. The Delay family reportedly agreed that that is what the father wanted. In the Schiavo case, the family does not agree.

    There is nothing in writing saying that Terri would wish to die, in fact, it is all hearsay and speculation. The feeding tube was removed, and she was sentenced to death by the hearsay evidence of a man who is set to gain financially from her death. Add to that, the financial contributions from Mr. Schiavo’s attorney to Judge Greer and it makes the whole thing just that much creepier. Now, even if he (Mr. Schiavo) is perfectly sincere, there is some doubt. Once you error on the side of death there are no take backsies.

    I think we would all agree that people have the right to die. It teaches us all to have something in writing. Something that makes clear our intentions. Otherwise, we should error on the side of life. But heh, that’s just my opinion.

  110. 168

    Chee spews:

    Seriously, HAPPY EASTER TO EVERYONE OF ALL FAITHS, CREEDS AND COLORS. Glad to be in America today, our differances are many but and we allowed the freedom to express our differances. DO THE BUNNY HOP!

  111. 169

    Dubyasux spews:

    chardummy @ 139

    You should check facts before embarrassing yourself by posting something stupid.

    1. Clinton signed welfare reform on August 22, 1996. The House impeachment vote was taken on December 19, 1998, nearly 2 1/2 years later. Your claim that Clinton signed welfare reform because he was “about to be impeached” is patently false. You are either too lazy to do 60 seconds of research, or a liar.

    2. You took the number of Americans without health insurance (you say 43 million but it’s closer to 46 million and still climbing) and twisted it into a claim that 43 million people are not paying into Social Security. It’s hard to believe an literate adult in this country could make a mistake like this. Are you high on drugs, or just brain dead?

  112. 170

    Dubyasux spews:

    Maui Idiot @ 143

    For an example of a well-run city controlled by Republicans, how about Baghdad?

  113. 171

    Dubyasux spews:

    Cynical @ 146

    “It is our civic duty to make certain these pinheaded Left WingNuts are constantly reminded the Right is right on their asses.”

    So is toilet paper. Wonder if they’re related?

  114. 172

    Chee spews:

    BF@168. What proof? …Terri’s husband has a $$$$$ GAIN. Lay your proof out. Reports aired say that the trust fund is near if not, depleted by now. The consort fund has been spent. Terri is on state finacial aid. What does that spell? They are married still. Why is she on state relief? What $$$$$…GAIN! I am open to hear your review of both accounts you had access to.

  115. 173

    Dubyasux spews:

    Chuck @ 165

    Thank you, Chuck. Same to you and yours. Christ died to wash away our sins and make us worthy of Heaven, and I appreciate what He did for us.

  116. 174

    bf spews:

    Chee at 173, the husband has not had to pay for the hospice care due to the lawsuit. As I understand it, as soon as the Schindler’s filed the appeal he no longer was responsible to pay for her care. Granted, there are differing accounts of the malpractice payments, it appears that there may be some $700,000 held in a trust, that would have paid for her care for the past 10 or so years, that was not used.

    But heh, that’s just hearsay, just like her husband saying that she would like to die.

  117. 175

    theREALanonymous1 spews:

    Book rights
    Publishers contract
    Movie rights
    Production contract

    I wonder who Michael will pick to play himself?

  118. 176

    Chee spews:

    ANONOMO@164. Hang on the word of Eri Cohan who fails to say that life support withdrawal is not going to be let happen on just on a family members say so. Much deliberation, examination and lengthy time are involved, all done by experts, which Eric is not nor you nor I. The experts lay it out to the family, it is a hope or no hope process. When the picture becomes grimer and grimer, 15 years of grimer, the time arrives to make choices. The law is on the husband’s side there. Some poor starving child died last night in some slum area cause their crack-head mother and father never fed them. Care about that? Fixing Terri is big stuff. If you really care about who starves and dies become a missionary, become Mother Teresa, do what Princess Diana did, That is where you can in a small very direct way do something to save lives instead of playing doctor, lawyer and medical expert an moaning over a cause you can not do anything about. Feed the Children programs feed the hungry. What do you do? Groan over a person you never knew. Touching starving lives is as close as your phone. If you are already doing that, Bless you. I would never let my children be exploited like Terri has been or allow my son-in-laws be torn limb from limb by people sitting on their hand and asses trying to run our family affairs, making a freak sideshow of my children. I would get on National TV to remind them to mind their own business and would tell those sit-in radicals to pack it up and get the hell out of there. What has happened shows ther parents lack respect, dignity and don’t care anything about her privacy. All was fine in the family till Pa wanted some of the settlement (under florida law they are not due any)and Son-in-law said no. Picture changed real quick and thing heated up as they stirred every pot they could. It is a shame and a sham brought on by Ma and Pa Buttinski. Do I think they would lie? Goes without saying.

  119. 178

    theREALanonymous1 spews:

    …Here’s a thought: Where do you go to get a living-will kit saying that in the event of a hideous accident I don’t want to be put to death by a Florida judge or the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals? And, if you had such a living will, would any U.S. court recognize it? – Mark Steyn, March 27, 2005

    In the end, the only alternative is a renewed understanding of both the family and human equality–two things ideological liberalism has now abandoned and modern conservatism now a family means accepting the burdens of caring for those bound to us in ties of fidelity–whether parent for child, child for parent, or spouse for spouse. The human answer to our dependency is not living wills but loving surrogates. And for those who believe in human equality, this means treating even the profoundly disabled–people like Terri Schiavo, who are not dead and are not dying–as deserving of at least basic care, so long as the care itself is not the cause of additional suffering. Of course, this does not mean that keeping our loved ones alive is our only goal. But neither can we treat a person’s life as a disease in need of a cure, or aim at death as a means of ending suffering–even if a loved one asks us to do so.

    By cheering for the right to allow her husband to kill that poor defenseless, yet living, woman, you have lost your credibility to be outraged against any OTHER defenseless citizens.

    It is our duty as a country TO protect the defenseless, ALL OF THEM, not just those that appear to suit your agenda or make you feel all happy inside.

    We could go on for hours point by point arguing and refuting each one in Terri’s case but that wouldn’t serve us or Terri. Suffice it to say (as you already know) I believe we, as a society, have to err on the side of life. The tough corner for me to turn in that arguement for life has been the one of capitol punishment – but if I don’t want to be monumentally hypocritical then I have to say err on the side of life in those cases too – even with arrogant cop killing donkeyfarts like Mumia Abu-Jamal…{I have to say err for their lives NOT that I have to like or respect them! ;-)}

    I think the very same reasons that people are arguing FOR fetal stem cell research (which has so far been monumetally unsuccessful and noted mostly for its complete failure), the arguments of hope, the arguments of potential, the arguements of discovery are actually the ones we should rather be arguing here.

    I think this case with Terri Schaivo has now become, in the minds of many, less about Terri and more about who we are, what we are becoming as a society, where we place the value of life and if that marker where we value life is going to be a certain one or one that changes with needs for expediency.

    I understand the pain of what you see in a nursing home, but as a society, are we prepared to say starving a patient is the same as removing life support? Wouldn’t every single Alzheimer’s patient or every single ALS patient fit the very same criteria we are using on Terri…they are brain damaged and can’t do anything for themselves except what the body does naturally: pump life-giving blood through their hearts and breath life-giving oxygen through every cell of their bodies. As a society are we prepared to say WHICH of our citizens lives are less important, have less value than others? And then that begs the question, who gets to be the final arbitor? Do we WANT to become the Netherlands where they actively practice not only abortion, but euthanasia and NOW have moved right on into infanticide? I don’t think we do, and I pray we don’t.

  120. 179

    marks spews:

    Happy Easter, all!

    Chee @18

    Yes, we were somehow out of sync in our arguments. See ya around!

  121. 181

    Chee spews:

    Terri’s parents are now on TV asking the protesters to..”TONE IT DOWN.” Have they forgotten so soon they were the ones who toned it UP.

  122. 182

    Chee spews:

    CHUCK AND ZAP. Thanks for the thoughtfull warm and fuzzy. Just stuffed myself, went out for Easter Brunch. Have a good one guys.

  123. 183

    Chee spews:

    marks@180. I saved first spot on the new thread, but you were a no show. Yes, I think we had some interferance from Mr. Cynicals buzzsaw going and our sound went out. :-) Back at ya…Happy Easter.

  124. 185

    JCH spews:

    You know what’s going on here, don’t you? Voter fraud is a reality, and across this country most of the votes that are illegally cast are cast for Democrats. It is Democrats who are driving the demands that non-citizens be allowed to vote in local elections. It is Democrats who are even insisting that illegal aliens be permitted to vote in some areas. It is Democrats who have opposed each and every move, no matter where, to attempt to clean up the election process by making sure that people who vote are actually legally qualified to vote. It is Democrats who want felons to vote! They know that felons will, by and large, vote for Democrats.

    I’ll say it again. Most illegally cast votes are cast for Democrats. Democrats have been at the forefront of every move to loosen voting restrictions and to counter any attempt to combat voter fraud.

    Now .. if you really want to hear Democrats howl … make it easier for military personnel to vote. Military personnel, you see, usually vote Republican.

  125. 186

    Goldy spews:

    JCH… I should point out that it was the DEMOCRATS who tried to push WA’s primary back, so that there would be more time to get military ballots out, and not a single Republican in the Senate voted for the bill.

  126. 191

    Swinger sex spews:

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