1. 1

    YLB spews:

    LMAO!! Here come the trolls like Surreal Mark to get all twisted in knots about MoveOn and turn up their stupid-assed paranoia about George Soros.

  2. 2

    YellowPup spews:

    What’s interesting about this is that in 2000 the claim that Gore was somehow claiming that he invented the Internet fit with the prevailing uber-narrative about Democrats: elitist, ivy league, blah blah blah. This BlackBerry thing is going nowhere because it doesn’t fit into the prevailing narrative about Republicans: Reagan in a cowboy hat, Palin gutting a moose, Bush clearing brush at the Texas ranch he bought after he was elected.

    How can the economy be collapsing, kids dying every day in Iraq, McCain’s lies and cynicism constantly exposed, and yet he’s still winning? Palin gutting a moose.

  3. 3

    Marvin Stamn spews:

    Another democrat supporting mcsame.
    Supporting meaning $$$

    Lynn Forester de Rothschild has said she thinks Democratic nominee Barack Obama is arrogant and has a problem connecting with average Americans.

    Rothschild is a member of the DNC’s Democrats Abroad chapter and splits her time living in London and New York. She was one of Clinton’s top fundraisers, bringing in more than $100,000 for her presidential campaign. She built a multimillion-dollar telecommunications company before marrying international banker Sir Evelyn de Rothschild.

    How much longer can the obama supporters lie to themselves that hillary voters will vote for him.

  4. 5

    Marvin Stamn spews:

    Obama is duplicating the work of jimmy carter and losing the jewish vote.

    Yesterday a Poll from Sienna College was released showing that McCain was gaining on Obama in NY State. The most astounding part of the Poll was the Jewish Vote that represents about 12% of the total in NY is supporting McCain by a 54% to 32% margin. This is a MAJOR shift that if duplicated nationally can help move Key states including NJ and Pennsylvania to the McCain corner.

    Previous Democratic Party candidates John Kerry and Al Gore, received 75-80% of the Jewish vote. In fact you have to go all the way back to the Jimmy Carter/Ronald Reagan election to find the Democratic candidate losing the Jewish vote on a National basis.

    Every day there is more bad news for obama.
    Is it too late for the DNC to throw obama under the bus and put hillary up?
    Or is it too late for the democrat party. Are they being slowly thrown under the bus.

  5. 6

    Marvin Stamn spews:

    Remembering may, 2008.

    As the news continues to focus on the Democratic primary after a big win for Hillary Clinton in Kentucky and a large victory in Oregon for Barack Obama, the announcement that Jim Johnson has been tapped by Obama to help choose a running mate for the Illinois senator is making waves.

    Who is Jim Johnson?

    Johnson served as Fannie Mae CEO from 1991 to 1998 and has a long history in both Washington politics and business. He served on the boards of numerous companies, including The Goldman Sachs Group, KB Home, and Target Corporation, and has been Vice Chairman of Perseus LLC. He also was a corporate finance managing director for Lehman Brothers. He was an executive assistant for Vice President Walter Mondale (1977-1981) and a U.S. Senate staff member. Johnson also helped screen running mates for Democratic presidential nominees Walter Mondale in 1984 and John Kerry in 2004.

    I guess that explains why obama is doing so bad despite bush/war/economy. Biden obviously was the worst pick for veep, and as the banking problem gets talked about biden and his connection will become more mainstream.
    The man with no judgement, but has a teleprompter, picked a man that ran fannie mae into the ground.
    Like I’ve said… those who can do, those that can’t get a government job.

  6. 7

    YLB spews:

    Everyone who reads this website and is not a wingnut troll should participate in getting more and better Dems elected.

    Yes that means Barack Obama, Christine Gregoire and Darcy Burner.

    Give up some spare change, contact the campaigns and get involved – canvas neighborhoods, register people to vote.

    It’s up to us to change things.

  7. 9

    Marvin Stamn spews:

    7. YLB spews:
    Give up some spare change,

    Good idea.
    Can you convince obama to give up any of his spare change to help other democrats?

    Earlier this month, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid made a personal appeal to Barack Obama: Help me grow the Democrats’ Senate majority by sharing some of the $77 million you’ve got in the bank.

    Obama’s campaign said no.

    If obama won’t share, why should you?
    Do as they do, not as they tell you.
    Unless of course you’re a mindless democrat.

  8. 10

    Puddybud spews:

    yelling loser boy: More and better Dems?

    Well I guess you should sit this one out cuz these are not the cream of the crop!

  9. 11

    Puddybud spews:

    BTW Latest Poll numbers

    16% of democrats have a favorable opinion of congress

    37% of democrats have a favorable opinion of Pelosi

    75% of democrats have a favorable opinion of Palin in Alaska.

  10. 12

    rhp6033 spews:

    What’s to like about Congress??? They’ve been too nice to their Republican colleagues. They’ve been trained too long by the Republicans, who’ve told them to “act nice, and maybe we’ll throw you a tidbit or two”.

    The past year and a half should have been full of Congressional hearings. Congress should have immediatly ordered the arrest of Rove & others for Contempt of Congress when they refused to testify. Impeachment hearings should already have been concluded and the trial in the full Senate should be underway last spring – for both Bush and Cheney. Every time the Republicans in the Senate threatened a fillibuster, we should have dared them to do it, and let them talk for the next six months, if necessary, until they collapsed in exhaustion.

    Of course, there aren’t any problems with the current Congress that can’t be cured by replacing more Republicans with Democrats. I’m certainly not going to vote the other way around – that’s just silly.

  11. 14

    Mr. Cynical spews:

    Wednesday, September 17, 2008
    The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Wednesday is unchanged with John McCain attracting 48% of the vote while Barack Obama earns 47% (see recent daily results). Both men are viewed favorably by 55% of the nation’s voters (see trends).

    McCain leads 58% to 38% among those who regularly shop at Wal-Mart while Obama leads 61% to 36% among those who don’t frequent the retail giant.

    So much for O-blah-blah’s appeal to the common men & women huh?

  12. 15

    Daddy Love spews:

    Marvin Stamn

    Of course all of us Democrats are just waiting for you to give us advice so that we can take it.

    The polls are already turning. It doesn’t take a genius to realize that all of the major economic meltdowns of the last 100 or so years were engineered by Republicans. Remember Orange County in 1994? That was the last time that money market funds were in trouble. And Guess what? Thanks to Phil Gramm and John McCain, they’re in trouble again.

  13. 18

    Daddy Love spews:

    14 Cyn

    Ya see, this is why no one listens to you. You do not know how to interpret what is right in front of you. Wal-Mart is a rural and exurban phenomenon, and a heavily Red State one. Gee, their shoppers skew Republican? Who would have thought?

  14. 19

    Daddy Love spews:

    Speaking of throwing under the bus, now that Carly Fiorina gave Obama and the Democrats a big birthday present by saying on TV that John McCain is not qualified to run a major corporation, they’ve canceled all of ther interviews and we won’t see her again until after McCain loses the election.

    Look for her clip on McCain to be repeated soon in an ad near you.

  15. 20

    Daddy Love spews:

    So why does Sartah Palin DO stupid stuff like lie about the teleprompter malfunctioning at the Republican convention when numerous eyewitnesses instantly rebutted her claim?

  16. 21

    Daddy Love spews:

    Re: Lynn Forester de Rothschild

    Sure, folks, a woman who splits her time between London and New York and is married to the CEO of an international bank who’s addressed as “Sir” claims Barack Obama is an elitist.


    How about Reginald Humphrey Sinclair Rockefeller III, how does he feel about the elites?

    I think Lynn and McCain just belong to the same clubs.

  17. 22

    Marvin Stamn spews:

    Biden is the gaffe that keeps on gaffing.

    Joe Biden came up with an interesting metaphor tonight.

    When telling the story of how his granddaughters had a slumber party with Barack Obama’s daughters during the week of the Democratic National Convention, Biden equated it to what he says Americans want.

    “I believe that’s a metaphor, a metaphor for what the country is looking for. They’re looking for a sleepover with people they like!

    Well maybe it’s not really a gaffe. There are a lot of women I would like a sleepover with. No doubt steve has his eyes on a special goat.
    But aren’t there some americans that are married and not looking for sleepovers?
    This sleepover with friends they like stuff probably goes over real well in hollywood, maybe not so well in the majority of the country where obama desperately needs votes.

  18. 23

    rhp6033 spews:

    Forget WallMart shoppers for a moment. Let’s ask those on Wall Street what they think right now about the Presidential candidates.

  19. 25

    rhp6033 spews:

    In other economic news, Home Depot is lowering prices to lure customers back into it’s stores. It seems that the credit crunch is affecting sales volumes, as even do-it-yourselfers are having trouble financing their home improvement projects.

    In contrast, the parent company of Red Lobster, Olive Garden, and Longhorn Steakhouse will be raising it’s prices, saying rising prices in oil and grocery items are affecting it’s profitibility. But it wasn’t clear how this would work out in light of declining sales generally, as Americans are reducing “casual dining” expenses to make up for higher gas prices.

  20. 27

    Marvin Stamn spews:

    I know what obama is thinking…
    If only al gore didn’t invent the internet.”
    Because of the internet the liberal biased media no longer can force their opinions on the people.

    Over $15 million spent in presidential TV advertising since conclusion of conventions
    More than 55% of McCain ads are in conjunction with RNC;
    Nearly all Obama ads paid for with candidate money

    Obama airs larger percentage of negative ads than McCain

    Obviously when you pick a veep that’s been around longer than mcsame and mcsame picks a woman the “change” word loses its meaning.
    All obama has left is hope.
    And negative ads.
    I hope mcsame gives obama a nice parting gift after obama loses the election. Obama would get a nice parting gift on a teev game show.

  21. 28

    Marvin Stamn spews:

    24. rhp6033 spews:
    Marvin @ 22: That’s the best you’ve got??? (yawn).

    Nope. Biden has all kinds of gaffes.
    The best is the one abut obama being clean. Tells you exactly how biden feels about those other kind of african americans.

  22. 29

    westello spews:

    Oh dear. Palin isn’t coming to Seattle after all. Scared? Afraid she can’t learn a new speech in time (after all, she’s given the same speech – albeit with the addition of how fabulous she is without the teleprompter – over and over)? Afraid it’ll cut into her debate prep time? Worried that those scary NW reporters might actually get in her face and she’d be forced to answer a question?

    P.S. McCain invented the Blackberry? Hilarious. Palin allowed women in the town she “governed” for 4 years to have pay for their own rape kits? Disgusting. McCain and Palin’s declaration that their party (well actually just them) will fundamentally change the craptastic direction this country is going in? By their little lonesome selves (because, of course, the entire Congress, the one that McCain has belonged to for 26 years are all a bunch of “do-nothings”)?

    Senators Snow and Bailey-Hutchinson, you do nothings, meet Sarah Palin who thinks she’s got it ALL over you.

  23. 30

    Daddy Love spews:

    Really, Harry Reid asked Oabama for money and got turned down. Must be real bad news for Democrats. Not.

    In all, Democrats have spent nearly $17 million combined, while Republicans have spent only about $5 million, according to a review of Federal Election Commission (FEC) reports.

    The gap in spending isn’t all that surprising. At the end of July, the Democrats had a 4-to-1 advantage in cash in the House and an $18 million edge in the Senate.

    No, we’re in no trouble. None at all.

  24. 31

    Puddybud spews:

    BULLSHITTIUM Alert on Daddy/Mommy Love:

    It doesn’t take a genius to realize that all of the major economic meltdowns of the last 100 or so years were engineered by Republicans.

    Really. You taking Steve’s Stupid Juice like rhp6033 and ignoring facts?

    Bring on the Congressional hearings… Yes Nancy Pelosi lets see the charts of who was where and where they are now…

  25. 33

    Daddy Love spews:

    27 MS

    Depends on what you define as “negative”

    John McCain really DOESN’T understand normal people’s problems. John McCain DOESN’T know any thing about economics. John McCain DOES think that the economy is fine. It’s not negative to tell the truth.

  26. 34

    Puddybud spews:

    You’ve got to be kidding me.

    Nicholas Provenzo, you are an ASSHole.

    “Like many, I am troubled by the implications of Alaska governor and Republican Vice Presidential candidate Sarah Palin’s decision to knowingly give birth to a child disabled with Down syndrome. Given that Palin’s decision is being celebrated in some quarters, it is crucial to reaffirm the morality of aborting a fetus diagnosed with Down syndrome (or by extension, any unborn fetus)—a freedom that anti-abortion advocates seek to deny.”

    Just like a Progressive to think like a Nazi. What a crock!

    Aryan Race anyone?

  27. 35

    Puddybud spews:

    Looks like Troopergate is falling apart Pelletizer.

    Megyn Kelly whom some HA peeps think is beautiful said this: “Megyn Kelly cited the new evidence: “…now we learn this morning that e-mails actually back up Palin’s claim that Monegan was fired because of insubordination over budget issues and not having anything to do with that trooper issue.”

    Oh no Pelletizer, the truth will come out and if Palin is innocent as the evidence seems right now, watch out Donkeys.

    That’s why Let them See BS is the Bill Burkett of facts.

  28. 36

    Daddy Love spews:

    31 Pud

    You mean like MS citing Jim Johnson, who served as Fannie Mae CEO from 1991 to 1998, which ending year (1998) was the year BEFORE the passage of the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act removed the Depression-era walls between banking, investment and insurance company and set the stage for today’s meltdown?

    I’m sure your information is at least as good as his.

    But you make a mistake calling for Nancy Pelosi to do so. As you know very well from the years of Republican dominance, control of Congress means that we control the agenda before any committee.

  29. 37

    Marvin Stamn spews:

    30. Daddy Love spews:
    No, we’re in no trouble. None at all.

    Bush – war – economy
    And obama isn’t up double digits?
    You’re in trouble.
    And I haven’t started reminding the ha hooligans about the bradley effect.
    When white people that know they’re racist, will say they are for obama but will vote against the african american.
    And I’m not talking about the republicans that won’t vote for obama because he’s so far left, I’m talking about the democrats that won’t vote based on color.

  30. 38

    Daddy Love spews:

    34 Pud

    Where did you get the idea that Nicholas Provenzo is a “Progressive.” Was he a member of the Progressive movement? Did he support Robert LaFollette for president?

    No, he is a conservative adherent to the philosophies of Ayn Rand who writes at the “Center for the Advancement of Capitalism:”

    The Center for the Advancement of Capitalism is dedicated to advancing individual rights and economic freedom through Ayn Rand’s philosophy of Objectivism. Browse our website for the Center’s articles and essays, opportunities for activism and more.

    As such, he argues that Islam is to blame for 9/11, that environmentalists are “anti-man,” and that “producers” have rights, but that “consumers” are “parasites” who do not.

    Yeah, he’s one heck of a “Progressive.”

  31. 39

    Daddy Love spews:

    37 MS

    For a variety of reasons, our national elections are close these days.

    But the reasons you cite are sound. And you left out that Obama is raising triple or better what McCain is, and that as I cited Democrats are WAY ahead of Republicans in the money chase. And you are ignoring that the polls are swinging back from the GOP post-convention bounce to show Obama leading again.

    So no, we’re not in trouble at all. Your guys are in trouble, son, and you know it.

    And the fact that this year we’ll fight you fuckers tooth and nail also figures in.

    The so-called “Bradley effect” or Wilder effect” is a myth. You must have noticed how many people said they would vote for Obama in the primaries but didn’t which is why he lost the nomination to Hillary Clinton. Oh, no, wait, THAT DIDN’T HAPPEN AT ALL.

  32. 40

    Daddy Love spews:

    35 Pud

    Do the e-mails say that Monegan wasn’t fired but quit? Because Sarah Palin has already claimed that.

    Do the e-mails say that Palin fired Monegan because she was dissatisfied with his performance on filling vacant trooper positions and on bootlegging and alcohol abuse issues? Because Sarah Palin has already claimed that.

    Do the e-mails say that Monegan was fired for his insubordination on budget issues, culminating in his effort to win federal money for the initiative to combat sexual assaults (an explanation that somehow neither Palin nor anyone around her had raised until now, two months after the firing)? I’m thinking that this latest story may be the one in the e-mails.

    But which e-mails are we talking about? The ones she refuses to release that she violated state law to funnel through her Yahoo account?

  33. 41

    Daddy Love spews:

    Here are the facts on Sarah Palin and the state trooper story:

    1. Sarah Palin has reneged on her promise to testify.

    2. The McCain campaign doesn’t want anyone testifying before the November election.

    3. The McCain campaign is stonewalling a bipartisan Alaska legislative investigation.

  34. 42

    Puddybud spews:

    Daddy/Mommy Love:

    As I said I will wait for the final show to fall on TrooperGate.

    But as I remember the MerryFitzmas thread on this blog…

    And I remember all the other DeLay stuff…

  35. 44

    Puddybud spews:

    So Daddy/Mommy Love: A person can’t have a progressive view now speaking about abortion?

    Hmmm… how progressive of you Daddy/Mommy Love.

  36. 45

    Puddybud spews:

    Daddy Love I want to have the hearings. When a Republican Congressman speaks he can deliver the chart and walk through it with his questioning…

  37. 46

    rhp6033 spews:

    DaddyLove @ 41:

    Slight correction: The McCain campaign is stonewalling a REPUBLICAN ALASKA LEGISLATIVE investigation.

    Yesterday I caught a report on the radio from Alaska (don’t know who was talking, as I didn’t hear the start of the story so I didn’t catch his name). This fellow was among the Republican leadership in the Alaska legislature, and was pretty ticked off at the McCain campaign.

    According to him, the fired chief of the Alaska Highway Patrol was very popular in Alaska, being the former Chief of Police of Anchorage and respected in Republican circles. Palin’s firing of him set off a rebellion in Alaska, and the right-wing radio talk-show hosts were leading the charge against Palin for firing him for personal reasons.

    According to this speaker, the Alaska State Constitution does give the governor the power to fire such an individual, as long as it was not done for “personal or political reasons”. I haven’t seen the Alaska constitution myself, and I’m debating whether it’s worth my time to look it up. But another speaker (a journalist) reported that he had confirmed that if Palin had fired the guy for personal or partison political reasons, the Alsaka Legislature MUST impeach her. (He pointed out he confirmed this intent with one of the drafters of the Alaska Constitution, some of them are still around).

    Anyway, what’s happening now is that the McCain camp has airlifted their “jump team”, including lots of lawyers and media-control types, many of whom worked on the 2000 Florida re-count, into Juneau and Anchorage. There was some laughter that between the Republican lawyers, Democratic opposition researchers, and news media, the population of Alaska has pretty much doubled in the past couple of weeks. Anyway, the McCain campaign has been doing an awful lot of arm-twisting of the Republican legislatures to get them to call off the investigation and declare it to be a function of the Democrats.

    The Alaska Republicans, who consider themselves to be an independent lot, are pretty resentful of the pressure from the “lower 48″.

    But they may not be able to hold out for long. The McCain camp is telling them they better get on board, or they will regret it later. If McCain/Palin wins, McCain will do everything he can to freeze anyone not found sufficiently loyal from any position in the national party – for the rest of their natural lives. This includes any national support for future elections at any level. If McCain/Palin lose, then Palin is still the governor, and her wrath at anyone “disloyal” was already proven when she was mayor of Walisa.

    So the Republicans in Alaska will have to decide how independent they really are, and how much they wish to defend their relatively new constitution against gubenatorial abuse.