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Obama Still Ahead
Despite a Gallup poll showing a 10-point McCain lead, Newsweek columnist Andrew Romano says Obama is still in the lead, 273 electoral votes to 265 for McCain.
Let’s start by explaining what the Gallup poll actually means:
“While most polling outfits at this stage focus solely on registered voters …, Gallup has also turned its attention to likely voters …. Screening for likely voters is tricky business, especially this year. For starters, the old screening models — which tend to favor tried-and-true Republican demographics — may not apply to an election in which Team Obama is investing massive resources in turning out subgroups (young people, African-Americans) traditionally underrepresented at the polls. But the more important thing to remember is that shifts in the likely voter pool correspond to fluctuation in voter enthusiasm — and thus, according to statistical studies, vastly ‘exaggerate the volatility of voter preferences.’
“Here’s the deal. Thanks to Sarah Palin and the party in St. Paul, ‘there has been a very substantial jump in the percentage of Republicans saying they are more enthusiastic about voting in this election, … a leap that has narrowed the ‘enthusiasm gap’ between the parties …. Gallup credits McCain’s newfound national lead to this burst of enthusiasm. But the problem is that while the GOP’s joviality is an important development — it means that McCain will have an easier time turning out his base in November — revved-up Republicans only account for about 45 percent of the electorate. That’s not nearly enough people to boost McCain to an actual 10-point lead. What a group that size can do, however — especially when they get excited — is skew Gallup’s assessment of who’s likely to vote further to the right than usual.
“And that, according to polling expert Nate Silver, is exactly what they’ve done: ‘Republicans, especially evangelical conservatives, … may be picking up the phone when a pollster calls [where] they had been screening out the call before, perhaps to the extent that they are biasing the sample.’ Case in point: the same Gallup poll shows McCain ahead 50 percent to 46 percent among registered voters — i.e., everyone Gallup called, as opposed to only the ones who expressed extreme enthusiasm. That’s probably the more accurate result.”
(Quoted under fair use; emphasis added by Roger Rabbit Editorial Committee.)
Romano points out 3 factors that make the situation look better for Obama than current polls indicate:
“Should Obamans be worried? Absolutely. But that’s not because the latest polls have revealed something shocking about the election. Instead, the new numbers simply confirm what expert observers knew all along — that the race would get really, really close once the public finally tuned in. And before you Democrats start shopping for cyanide — and/or before you Republicans start booking rooms for Mac’s inaugural bash — there are three caveats to consider.
“First, while McCain’s convention bump is real, it’s far too early to tell whether he’s actually ahead of Obama. … [T]he new USA Today/Gallup … shows something dramatically different from the rest of the post-convention surveys: McCain leading 54 percent to 44 percent …. Given that the two other soundings taken over the same time period resulted in a dead heat — Rasmussen, 48-47; CNN/ORC, 48-48 — it’s prudent, for now, to assume that Gallup is a bit of an outlier ….
“The second caveat relates to the reason why Gallup shows such a wide margin. … Screening for likely voters is tricky business … shifts in the likely voter pool … vastly ‘exaggerate the volatility of voter preferences.’ … Gallup credits McCain’s newfound national lead to [a] burst of enthusiasm [for Palin]. But … revved-up Republicans only account for about 45 percent of the electorate. … What a group that size can do, however — especially when they get excited — is skew Gallup’s assessment of who’s likely to vote further to the right than usual.
“Our final caveat? Presidential election are fought on a state-by-state basis — not in the national polls. Here, the picture doesn’t look quite as rosy for McCain. According to [a composite average of polls compiled by Real Clear Politics], Obama currently leads in each of John Kerry’s 2004 states, including … Michigan …, New Hampshire …, Pennsylvania … and Wisconsin …. He also leads by healthy margins in a pair of Bush states: New Mexico … and Iowa …. If Obama can hold these advantages until Election Day, he’ll wind up with at least 263 electoral votes –seven shy of victory. That’s where the red states of Virginia and Colorado come in. At this point, Obama’s leading in the latter … and tied in the former. Win either one and the White House is his.
“At this point, Real Clear Politics gives the Democrat 273 EVs (Colorado, no Virginia) to McCain’s 265; the prediction whizzes at FiveThirtyEight.com are even more optimistic, projecting additional Obama victories in Virginia and Ohio for a final score of 304 to 234. Which means that while McCain is ‘winning’ nationally, Obama is ahead in the electoral college.”
(Quoted under fair use; emphasis added by Roger Rabbit Editorial Committee.)
From Josh Marshall at TPM:
Meme Taking Hold?
We’ve now had a week of blaring headlines and one-liners about Sarah Palin as the mavericky, pork-busting reformer from Alaska. But we seem to be witnessing the first stirrings of a backlash and a dawning realization that the ‘Sarah Palin’ we’ve heard so much about over the last few days is a fraud of truly comical dimensions.
The McCain camp has made her signature issue shutting down the Bridge to Nowhere. But as The New Republic put it today that’s just “a naked lie.” And pretty much the same thing has been written today in Newsweek, the Washington Post, the AP, the Wall Street Journal. Yesterday even Fox’s Chris Wallace called out Rick Davis on it. (Do send more examples when you find them.)
On earmarks she’s an even bigger crock. On the trail with McCain they’re telling everyone that she’s some kind of earmark slayer when actually, when she was mayor and governor, in both offices, she requested and got more earmarks than virtually any city or state in the country.
Think about that. On the stump, not a single word that comes out of her mouth — or not a single word that the McCain folks put in her mouth — is anything but a lie. I know that sounds like hyperbole. But just go down the list. None of them bear out.
Video of Palin calling for earmarks and the bridge to nowhere.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieuA7nAOBXQ
So, my liberal friends, we’re still ahead. Yes, it’s gonna be tighter than heck, but notwithstanding that skewed Gallup poll, given the current electoral vote map, I’d rather be us than them.
FactCheck.org Debunks Palin Legends
While I don’t believe in playing fair against Republican fascists — after all, they don’t play fair against us — I do believe in respect for the truth.
Therefore, I’m posting FactCheck.org’s response to certain stories being circulated about Palin, because if some of what we believe about her is inaccurate, it should be corrected. Herewith:
“Palin did not cut funding for special needs education in Alaska[.]”
“It’s not true, as widely reported in mass e-mails, Web postings and at least one mainstream news source, that Palin slashed the special education budget in Alaska by 62 percent. CNN’s Soledad O’Brien made the claim on Sept. 4 in an interview with Nicolle Wallace, a senior adviser to the McCain campaign ….
“[I]n fact, she increased special needs funding so dramatically that a representative of local school boards described the jump as ‘historic.’ According to an April 2008 article in Education Week, Palin signed legislation in March 2008 that would … increase spending on what Alaska calls ‘intensive needs’ students … from $26,900 per student in 2008 to $73,840 per student in 2011. … Palin’s original proposal, according to the Anchorage Daily News, would have increased funds slightly more, giving intensive needs students a $77,740 allotment by 2011.
“According to Eddy Jeans at the Alaska Department of Education and Early Development, funding for special needs and intensive needs students has increased every year since Palin entered office, from a total of $203 million in 2006 to a projected $276 million in 2009.
“Those who claim that Palin cut special needs funding by 62 percent are looking in the wrong place and misinterpreting what they find there. They point to an apparent drop in the Department of Education and Early Development budget for special schools. But the special schools budget, despite the similar name, isn’t the special needs budget.”
“She did not demand that books be banned from the Wasilla library.”
“One false rumor accuses then-Mayor Palin of threatening to fire Wasilla’s librarian for refusing to ban books from the town library. …
“The story is false on several fronts: Palin never asked that books be banned; the librarian continued to serve in that position; no books were actually banned; and many of the books on the list that Palin supposedly wanted to censor weren’t even in print at the time, proving that the list is a fabrication.
“It’s true that Palin did raise the issue with Mary Ellen Emmons, Wasilla’s librarian, on at least two occasions. Emmons flatly stated her opposition both times. But, as the … local paper reported at the time, Palin asked general questions about what Emmons would say if Palin requested that a book be banned. …
“We can’t read minds, so it is impossible for us to know whether or not Palin may actually have wanted to ban books from the library or whether she simply wanted to know how her new employees would respond to an instruction from their boss. …
“Moreover, although Palin fired Emmons as part of a ‘loyalty’ purge, she rehired Emmons the next day, and Emmons remained at her job for two-and-a-half more years … [until] she resigned.
“So what about that list of books targeted for banning, which according to one widely e-mailed version was taken ‘from the official minutes of the Wasilla Library Board’? … The list includes the first four Harry Potter books, none of which had been published at the time of the Palin-Emmons conversations. … In fact, the list is a simple cut-and-paste job, snatched (complete with typos and the occasional incorrect title) from the Florida Institute of Technology library Web page, which presents the list as ‘Books banned at one time or another in the United States.'”
“She was never a member of the Alaskan Independence Party[.]”
“Palin was never a member of the Alaskan Independence Party … despite mistaken reports to the contrary. …
“The party’s chair originally told reporters that Palin had been a member, but … later retracted that statement. Chairwoman Lynette Clark told the New York Times that false information had been given to her by another member of the party after she first told the Times and others that Palin joined the AIP in 1994. …
“The director of Alaska’s Division of Elections … confirms that Palin registered to vote in the state for the first time in May 1982 as a Republican and hasn’t changed her party affiliation since. She also told FactCheck.org that Palin’s husband, Todd, was registered with AIP from October 1995 to July 2000, and again from September 2000 until July 2002. (He has since been registered as undeclared.) …
“There is still some dispute as to whether Sarah Palin … attended the AIP’s 1994 convention, held in Wasilla. Clark and another AIP official told ABC News’ Jake Tapper that both Palins were there. Palin was elected mayor of Wasilla two years later. The McCain campaign says Sarah Palin went to the 2000 AIP convention, also held in Wasilla, ‘as a courtesy since she was mayor.’ As governor, Palin sent a video message to the 2008 convention, which is available on YouTube, and the AIP says she attended in 2006 when she was campaigning.”
“Palin never endorsed or supported Pat Buchanan for president.”
“Claims that Palin endorsed conservative Republican Pat Buchanan for president in the 2000 campaign are false. She worked for conservative Republican Steve Forbes.
“The incorrect reports stem from an Associated Press story on July 17, 1999, that said Palin was ‘among those sporting Buchanan buttons’ at a lunch for Buchanan attended by about 85 people, during a swing he took through Fairbanks and Wasilla. Buchanan didn’t help matters when he told a reporter for the liberal publication The Nation on Aug. 29: ‘I’m pretty sure she’s a Buchananite.’ But in fact, she wasn’t.
“Soon after The AP story appeared, Palin wrote … to … the Anchorage Daily News that she had merely worn a Buchanan button as a courtesy to her visitor and was not endorsing him. …
“Palin actually worked for Forbes. Less than a month after being spotted wearing the ‘courtesy’ button for Buchanan, she was named to the state leadership committee of the Forbes effort. …
“Palin has not pushed for teaching creationism in Alaska’s schools.”
“On Aug. 29, the Boston Globe reported that Palin was open to teaching creationism in public schools. That’s true. She supports teaching creationism alongside evolution, though she has not actively pursued such a policy as governor.
“In an Oct. 25, 2006, debate, when asked about teaching alternatives to evolution, Palin replied: … ‘Teach both. You know, don’t be afraid of information. Healthy debate is so important and it’s so valuable in our schools. I am a proponent of teaching both. …’
“A couple of days later, Palin amended that statement in an interview with the Anchorage Daily News, saying: … ‘I don’t think there should be a prohibition against debate if it comes up in class. It doesn’t have to be part of the curriculum.’
“After her election, Palin let the matter drop. The Associated Press reported Sept 3: ‘Palin’s children attend public schools and Palin has made no push to have creationism taught in them. … It reflects a hands-off attitude toward mixing government and religion by most Alaskans.'”
(Quoted from Newsweek under fair use.)
Roger Rabbit Commentaries: Having posted these corrections, I demand the same scruples from our friends across the aisle. Of course, it’s a lead-pipe cinch they won’t be as honest as me.
Why Angry Boeing Workers Struck — The Fine Print
Boeing workers are angry at the company’s contract offer, Business Week says, because of:
Givebacks — The company’s proposed contract would require workers to “pick up more of the tab for their health-care costs. Some workers argue that a few visits to the hospital would instantly eat up any wage gains.”
Survivor benefits — Although the proposed contract would increase the company’s pension contributions, it would give “spouses of deceased Boeing workers a flat $4,000 payment instead of guaranteed monthly payments for life.”
Other, non-contract, causes of dissatisfaction with the company include:
787 production delays caused by outsourcing
Management scandals
Boeing’s moves to conduct bargaining in public through web site postings and radio ads
(Quoted under fair use.)
Roger Rabbit Commentary: Cheap labor conservatives hate unions, but for several generations of American workers, unions have been their ticket to the middle class and a good life. Why would any worker voluntarily give up his union, or vote for a union-hating political party’s union-hating candidates? They’re shooting themselves (and their families) in the foot if they do.
” … [M]aybe Governor Palin does represent everything that is good and fine about America, as she herself maintains. But spare us, please, any talk about how she is a tough fiscal conservative. …
“Of the 50 states, Alaska ranks No. 1 in taxes per resident and No. 1 in spending per resident. Its tax burden per resident is 2 1/2 times the national average; its spending, more than double. The trick is that Alaska’s government spends money on its own citizens and taxes the rest of us to pay for it.
“Although Palin, like McCain, talks about liberating ourselves from dependence on foreign oil, there is no evidence that being dependent on Alaskan oil would be any more pleasant to the pocketbook. Alaska is, in essence, an adjunct member of OPEC.
“It has four different taxes on oil …. On average, three-quarters of the value of a barrel of oil is taken by the state government …. Any sympathy the governor of Alaska expresses for folks in the lower 48 who are suffering from high gas prices or can’t afford to heat their homes is strictly crocodile tears.
“As if it couldn’t support itself, Alaska also ranks No. 1, year after year, in money it sucks in from Washington. In 2005 (the most recent figures), according to the Tax Foundation, Alaska ranked 18th in federal taxes paid per resident ($5,434) but first in federal spending received per resident ($13,950). …
“ … Barack Obama and McCain disagree on … an oil windfall-profits tax. McCain is against it …. Obama is for it …. Although Palin’s words side with McCain in this dispute, her actions side with Obama. Her major legislative accomplishment has been to revamp Alaska’s windfall-profits tax … to increase the state’s take. …
“Why is a windfall-profits tax good for Alaska but not for the U.S.?”
— Michael Kinsley in Time Magazine (quoted under fair use)
A local perspective on Sarah Palin’s “executive experience,” reposted in Alternet:
http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/98077/
The Sarah Palin I Know
Editor’s Note: “The following is an email missive probably read by millions of people by Anne Kilkenny, a long-time resident of Wasilla Alaska, who has known Sarah Palin for 16 years. The author’s identity has been confirmed in the press: “Kilkenny, a registered Democrat, sent the note Aug. 30, the day after Republican presidential candidate John McCain picked Palin to be his running mate. She said she sent it to 30 relatives and friends outside Alaska to answer the questions she was getting about Palin. She signed her name and asked that it not be posted, but it went viral across the Internet almost instantly.”
Pelletizer, you and your ilk get their news from the NUTROOTS, you know the warm white sticky man-juice kool-aid. Each of these rumors was delivered for your viewing pleasure by the idiots at KOS, TPM, CAP, Progress, MoveOn.Org, DU or by their real names KURSE, The Panty Man, Cap (and Trade), Stinky Progressives, Moron.Org, etc.
But I have to give you kudos Pelletizer, you woke up and realized the Internet has FactCheck.org and similar sites like it. Today, many more people are connected, by their iPhones, BlackJacks, Qs, Blackberrys and can check the “facts” from the moronic sites. And since the liberal MSM recently showed their “TRUE” colors people are more interested in the truth than ever before.
If you remember Soledad O’Brien of CNN asked a question to Bay Buchanan and the only place the question could have come from was your “NUTROOTS”.
Yellowpup, this is all I need to know: “Kilkenny, a registered Democrat”
Thanks for playing…
Holy Shit Batman, not in his backyard?
cbs2chicago.com/politics/mccain.chicago.fundraiser.2.812952.html
McCain Rings Up $5M At Chicago Fundraiser
Amount Averages To $1 Million Per Hour Spent Here
blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2008/09/05/obama-im-not-going-to-take-your-guns-away/
“If you’ve got a gun in your house, I’m not taking it,’’ Obama said. But the Illinois senator could still see skeptics in the crowd, particularly on the faces of several men at the back of the room.
So he tried again. “Even if I want to take them away, I don’t have the votes in Congress,’’ he said. “This can’t be the reason not to vote for me. Can everyone hear me in the back? I see a couple of sportsmen back there. I’m not going to take away your guns.’’
There goes that guns and religion thing again…
Soooooo now people are fessing up since it looks like fact check is a happenin’ all over…
http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.....5/80904002
yelling loser boy – that’s Deeeeeeeeeeetroit (basketball) Free Press, Kwame Kilpatrick’s old friend not Free Republic.
But after checking Ilene Beninson 52, and Joellen Gilchrist 64 were outed by ABC’s Jake Tapper as Code Pinkos not independents. And on Jake Tapper’s ABC Blog blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/09/michigan-indepe.html he apologized after he was duped: “Please note that two of the “independents” the Free Press interviewed appear to be anti-war activists, thus not particularly predisposed to have an open mind about Gov. Palin. I had quoted one of them, but have removed her comments.”
Yet, when caught with his hand in his ASS on elections.foxnews.com/2008/09/08/editor-defends-use-of-codepink-members-in-independent-focus-group/
Ass’t Man Editor Randy Essex of the Free Press farted:
“I wish that it weren’t the case that there were two people from an activist group and we didn’t know about it. If there is a radical leftist or two in the group, I don’t care. “I want a robust conversation, a complete range of political viewpoints.”
Yeah riiiiiiiiight!
@10: And yet, here you are in the comments threads of a liberal blog. Imagine that.
yelling loser boy, I know you watch MTV. How do I know? The mush that arrives in pixels here.
So how did you like your new hero Russell Brand? Did you like his Non-PC choice of words “retarded”. I know that hit home with many parents of special needs children. How was that “short bus” ride to work today Russell?
You’d think the author of “Perfect Madness: Motherhood in the Age of Anxiety” would think twice of writing something nasty.
I guess when you are a liberal progressive negativity and nastiness are your normal everyday creed and motto.
warner.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/09/04/the-mirrored-ceiling/
you and your ilk get their news from
In 5, RR got stuff from factcheck.org, a reality-based outfit.
Not the right wing bullshit you worship.
Loser.
I know you watch MTV.
Buzzzt. Wrong. I got the cheap cable. If I watch TV at all, it’s for Mariners, Seahawks, Huskies, whatnot.
Don’t be bitter now that I’ve shown you to be full of right wing bullshit.
Otherwise, I might have to dig out an old circle jerk between you and MWS.
LMAO!!!
yelling loser boy@17, I see you are still smarting over that ass-kicking on Kwame Kilpatrick. Which party did he belong to again?
Now back to you, Just on this blog alone what “wonderful” threads from other NUTROOTS sites did you “overreact” to?
Recently, how many Kos man-juice injections have you reposted here?
What a turdblossom!
The Prosecution Rests.
ArtFart: 7,084,932 abortions have occurred since the start of the Iraq war.
Since approximately 65% are now missing Donkey, just think how many Donkey voters have been eradicated in the last 5+ years.
19 – LMAO!!! You’re so silly. Keep on with your silly-assed paranoia that’s fueled by right wing bullshit.
We’ll be laughing at you straight through November.
And as long as you delusional nutjobs continue to lust after power, we won’t rest.
More on why the people like yelling loser boy and liberal press doesn’t get it:
“In the press galleries at the convention, journalists wrinkled their noses in disgust when Piper, Ms. Palin’s youngest daughter, was filmed kitty-licking her baby brother’s hair into place. But to many Americans — including some I talked to in the convention hall — that looked like family church on Sunday, evidence of good breeding and sibling regard.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09.....f=politics
LYAO yelling loser boy? Right wing bullshit yelling loser boy? I am staying with liberal MSM newspapers to dissect, destroy and demolish your stupid rant in #21.
And if the candidate whom I don’t like demolishes the “messiah” what will you do turdblossom?
Is Sarah Palin prepared to assume the presidency if called upon?
The McCain campaign knows the answer, and they are doing everything they can to keep the media, and us, from finding out.
I hope Obama wins: the Neo-socialists will finally get a large dose of the “progressive” snake oil they’ve been touting for decades, and Hillary won’t ever get the chance to be prez.
Sounds like a fair trade-off to me!
Sarah Palin makes real stay-at-home Alaskan moms pay her extra for sleeping in her own bed and eating in her own kitchen. Waht’s up with that? That’s change they’re all paying for.
Wow this just in yelling loser boy: CNN got duped again. Remember the multiple cloud picture in Lebanon? Remember the Iranian missile launch that partially failed. Well it seems CNN fell for it again.
“I mean, McCain has been really good about painting Obama as this lightweight, using the word “celebrity” as a pejorative. They don’t want to have a boomerang effect. They don’t want that to come back on Sarah Palin, and people say, yes, she looks good in a bikini clutching an AK-47, but is she equipped to run the country?”
http://gawker.com/5046643/cnn-.....-photoshop
Oh well yelling loser boy, CNN isn’t known for doing any actual fact-checking. Remember CNN’s Eason Jordan? It never ends for these leftist MSM pinheads.
24 PI
Another case of typical Republican projection. In Reality World, America just got a large dose of the conservative snake oil, and because of it we puked the Republicans out of the Congresional majority, and we’ll be puking John McCain back to Arizona.
26 Pud
I can’t even keep rack of what the fuck you are talking about these days. You wander over about ten obscure, unrelated references to ancient history in each post and never do reach a conclusion.
They shouldn’t pay you very much.
Daddy @ 27,
Fine – just as long as you morons shut the fuck up!!
Did you know Obama signed up for military duty in 1979 when he graduated high skruul? Really?
“You know, I had to sign up for Selective Service when I graduated from high school. And I was growing up in Hawaii, and I had friend whose parents were in the military, there were a lot of Army, military bases there. And I always actually thought of the military as some ennobling and honorable option. But keep in mind: I graduated in 1979. The Vietnam War had come to an end. We weren’t engaged in an active military conflict at that point. So it’s not an option that I ever decided to pursue.”
But per http://www.telegraph.co.uk/new.....itary.html sumtin’s wrong in the Ricky Ricardo household. Lucy….. you gost some ‘splainin do to cuz
“The aspiration was not mentioned in either of his two volumes of memoirs.”
– Selective Service Registration was not possible in 1979.
– Obama registered with the Selective Service with an effective date of September 4, 1980.
Wikipedia en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selective_Service#History got the date wrong by 4 days as seen from the bottom two links: “On March 29, 1975, Pres. Gerald Ford signed Proclamation 4360, Terminating Registration Procedures Under Military Selective Service Act, eliminating the registration requirement for all 18-25 year old male citizens. Then on July 2, 1980, President Jimmy Carter signed Proclamation 4771, Registration Under the Military Selective Service Act, retroactively re-establishing the Selective Service registration requirement for all 18-26 year old male citizens born on or after January 1, 1960. Only men born between March 29, 1957, and December 31, 1959, were completely exempt from Selective Service registration. The first registrations after Proclamation 4771 took place on Monday, July 21, 1980, for those men born in January, February and March 1960 at U.S. Post Offices. Tuesdays, Wednesdays and Thursdays were reserved for men born in the later quarters of the year, and registration for men born in 1961 began the following week.”
http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu.....?pid=23818
http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu.....?pid=44697
Daddy Love: sorry facts hurt your small cranial orifice containing that single celled brain you call a mind.
If you can’t figger out I am showing the leftist slant to the media you are as dumb as bybygoober.
BTW where is gooberville? After the Cindy McCain humanitarian video where we learned all about her love of her fellow downtrodden man/woman he disappeared.
8 Thanks for the informative link. Palin’s Republican credentials are valid: hubris, incompetence at the job, higher taxes and debt for the city she governed. All she needs to do now is have a bathroom tryst at a major airport and she’ll have checked off all the boxes on the “real Republican” checklist.
Even more interesting:
http://www.realclearpolitics.c.....a-225.html
22 – I’m always LMAO at you Stupes. You’re a never-ending source of entertainment for me, your hypocrisy, your lies.
Example: what was Palin’s family doing with that young newborn in a noisy hall at what 10, 11 at night?
What kind of family values is that?
I’ll tell what it is – it’s sheer right wing lust for power. That’s the top right wing nutjob value – followed closely by greed for money.
30 – LMAO!!! Stupes, he never said he registered in 1979.
Was “the inference there”?
LMAO!!! Sure if you take the inference from the gas ghosties inside your empty skull..
Where do you get this endless stream of right wing bullshit?
yelling loser boy@34: Why do you care? You claimed you didn’t watch it so all you have is second hand anecdotal evidence. And when did you start championing the cause for small children?
Remember you support partial-birth abortion and leaving living out-of-the-womb aborted babies to die.
yelling loser boy@35, You just don’t get it. I feel sorry for the SEUI wife you claim to have.
Even the British tabloids picked up on his comments. Per Russell Brand on MTV, the Brits want Obama. The whole world wants Obama.
You are as dumb as the come turdblossom.
Good day!
Goldy: #37 is a sockpuppet.
I am honored to be duplicated here.
36 – LMAO!!! Obviously YOU don’t care if a special needs infant is up late at night in a noisy hall with a booming sound system.
I’ve had kids Stupes. I’ve been up all night with them.
Admit it you moron. That’s kid’s needs was low on the priority list with LUST FOR POWER at the top.
LMAO again!!! I said I skipped McSame’s speech. I watched part of Palin’s until the nausea was too much to take.
That woman disgusts me – parading a pregnant teen and her shotgun wedding fiance and keeping an infant up at night at a right wing clown show!
38 – LMAO!! The Telegraph is right wing! I keep telling your silly-assed sieve of an empty skull they call that stupid paper the “ToryGraph” in the UK!
It’s more right wing bullshit that you are fatally addicted to!
Remember you support partial-birth abortion and leaving living out-of-the-womb aborted babies to die.
Show me where I’ve supported this. The first is a procedure that can only be justified in my mind to save the life of a mother and the second I don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about.
Just more twisted right wing bullshit from an insane individual.
It’s about time the movie about the fascist city of seattle and how they attacked peaceful protesters during the WTO comes out.
http://www.battleinseattlemovie.com/
And here’s a video made today of Palin again telling folks how she opposed the bridge to nowhere in Ketchikan.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LojJ9b43ZGg
“You’re gonna hear a lot about the abusive practice of earmarks in Congress form our good senator here. We championed in Alaska reform of the old earmark process. I told Congress, `Thanks but no thanks’ for that Bridge To Nowhere up in Alaska. If our state wanted a bridge, we were gonna build it ourselves.”
The truth about the liberal bias is becoming obvious to everyone. Not because the right-wingers pointed it out, but because the clintons pointed it out.
Without the liberal media will a democrat ever be elected to any office again?
Just checking – the election is Obama versus McCain, right? Not Obama versus Palin???
Is McCain the Invisible Man now?
Another one of my fans trying to be me.
Always copied, but I’m the original.
Right-wingers have been wondering why obama spends so much time talking about palin. Has he lost such focus that he’s just smearing a woman for his own pleasure?
Every stupid attack on palin is another vote for mcsame.
Haven’t you figured out that obama is crashing and burning.
Once obama has to debate without his teleprompter he will drop even more.
It’s over for the democrats in this election. Work on lame excuses why obama lost and start figuring out why democrats never run on their principles.
@8 Please note the FactCheck.org statements @5 relate specifically to the Kilkenny e-mail described described @8.
@9 “Pelletizer, you and your ilk get their news from the NUTROOTS”
Bullshit. I don’t even read the websites you mentioned. I get my news from the MSM, which, as I’m sure you must know, is owned by rich white guys who vote Republican and influence their editorial boards to slant news stories and editorials in favor of Republicans.
It’s a reflection on all the damage you are doing to the liberal planks.
The ha hooligans know that your facts can’t be disputed so this is their only other alternative.
@9 So you like FactCheck, eh, puddinghead? That’s good because I’ll be throwing some more FactCheck your way. Such as their debunking of McCain’s bullshit claims that Obama will raise taxes on people earning $42,000 a year. Why don’t you check that one out for yourself and get back to me. I think you’ll discover that FactCheck has pegged McCain as a liar.
From FactCheck.org:
“We checked the accuracy of McCain’s speech accepting the Republican nomination and noted the following:
“McCain claimed that Obama’s health care plan would ‘force small businesses to cut jobs’ and would put ‘a bureaucrat … between you and your doctor.’ In fact, the plan exempts small businesses, and those who have insurance now could keep the coverage they have.
“McCain attacked Obama for voting for ‘corporate welfare’ for oil companies. In fact, the bill Obama voted for raised taxes on oil companies ….”
(Quoted under fair use.)
Roger Rabbit Commentary: Can you say “liar”?
Or how about this whopper:
“McCain’s new ad puts another stitch in what we’ve called his pattern of deceit on Obama’s tax plan. This one claims Obama and congressional Democrats plan to push forward ‘painful tax increases on working American families’ ….
“The ad is plain wrong about higher taxes on working families. In fact, Obama’s economic plan would produce a tax cut for the majority of American households, with middle-income earners benefiting most. …”
(Quoted from FactCheck.org under fair use.)
Roger Rabbit Commentary: Can you say “liar liar pants on fire”?
So, you see, puddy darling, FactCheck is an impartial and nonpartisan watchdog that cuts both ways … well, mostly one way, because most of the really big whoppers come from lying Republicans.
@12 Blue collars who vote on gun and religion issues instead of paycheck issues deserve what they get from Republicans — smaller paychecks, longer hours, less job security, outsourcing, givebacks, eroding health care benefits, and pension bankruptcies.
@10 I’m sure puddinghead changes minds here. The more I read his crap, the more Democrat I become!
@14 I’m sure puddinghead changes minds here. The more I read his crap, the more Democrat I become! No doubt other readers are affected the same way. Not that I read much of his crap … the scroll button on my keyboard is worn out.
@20 As Republicans don’t get abortions, that’s 7 million fetuses who won’t grow up and vote Democrat. You should be happy about that, pudding-in-diapers darling.
Hey pudding, don’t you realize GOP strategists don’t really want to abolish abortion? That would be a political disaster for their party. They would be deprived of their best wedge issue, and within 18 years the demographics would swamp them at the polls.
Only Democrats get abortions, remember? What would happen to the Greasy Oily Puke party if all 7 million of those little Democrats were born? Pure disaster for the GOP!
@24 Sounds good to me, too. I like that scenario a whole lot, and I’m doing everything I can to make it happen.
@27 This is a liberal blog. If you don’t like the noise here, feel free to crawl back into your hole. We don’t, under any circumstances, take orders from gaseous bloviators like you.
@30 Sure looks like Obama was required to register for Selective Service, doesn’t it?
Perhaps Obama can’t remember the exact date he registered. He can, however, remember exactly how many houses he owns. You can’t say that of your guy.
It sure is fun watching the wingnuts crawling all over themselves defending McCain. Just a few short months ago they hated him.
@48 Original what? Original broken record? Neither you nor any other wingnut has ever had an original thought at any time in your lives. You’re all a bunch of fucking clones cut from a DVD disk stored at Wingnut Central. Your impersonator is far more original than you’ll ever be.
Marvin (hopefully the real one) spewed:
Odd, as left wingers are wondering why he seems to be giving her so much slack. The TV pundits like Keith and Rachel are having a field day pointing out misstatements and out-an-out lies, but Senator Obama almost seems to be giving her a pass.
Even when the pundits bring her up in the interview, Senator Obama simply points out that she agrees with Senator McCain, then proceeds to show that they both are staunch supporters of President Bush.
Governor Palin is a big story. The first Republican VP nominee, and a relative unknown to many people. Stories about her bring readers and viewers, which certainly explains why the newsies are so fixated on her.
But Senator Obama seems to be pretty much ignoring her, apparently assuming that Senator Biden will show her to be the lightweight that she is.
@69 & 71 – Oooo Oooo I feel so hurt … that really got me … Oooo Oooo …
You fuckwads are hilarious beyond description.
The real one.
Well if keith said it it must be true. After all, it’s not too much of a reflection on him to be demoted like he was.
Even you have to find it strange that even obama is talking about the veep pick so much. I guess her executive experience really does point out his lack of and he has no choice but fall into the trap of comparing himself to mcsames veep.
And wasn’t biden going to be the attack dog so obama could take the high road, you know, change.
I’m guessing that posts are being deleted unless the rabbit can also predict the future.
The only one crashing and burning is Palin -= she is being caught by her own record and her lies. How sad that an acceptance speech has to contain so many lies. Really, when she has to lie to make herself appeal to people – it is going to come back and doom her and McCain for the lack of judgement in selecting such a poorly qualified candidate.
Corruption, lies, budget deficits, pork-barrel spending, taxes on oil that hurt the rest of us, lobbyists conections, Ted Stevens as a mentor…..sounds just like Bush and the corrupt republicans (guess Heather Wilson is now in trouble with the Abramoff scandal too!). Just love those republicans – remember McCain was chair of the committee that said that Doolittle, Wilson and the others were “clean”. Just more of the same republican corruption. What republicans don’t mention is that their heroes – Ralph Reed (leader of the Religous right) and Grover Norquist (leader of the conservative taxpayers) laundered money for Abramoff so he could support slave labor, forced abortions, Russian oil tycoons and gambling for Indian tribes. Republicans are one big bag of corruption.
Hmm, the Commerce Dept. initially reported a GDP of 1.9 percent for the second quarter of 2008. Initially, the Bush administration and the McCain campaign breathed a sigh of relief – although a dismal economic performance, at least it wasn’t a rescession (yet). Others on Wall Street were more skeptical, some experts believing that the usual “adjustment” would put it into negative territory.
But now the Commerce Dept. has “adjusted” the report, but instead of moving it downward as expected, have adjusted it upward, showing a robust economic growth of 3.3 percent for the quarter.
Experts are left scratching their heads. It just doesn’t match anything they are seeing in other finanical reports, or their own personal experiences. How could this be right?
Looking into the details, it appears that the Commerce Dept. is NOT counting a number of things. It has decided not to count the impact of foreign inflation – and thereby discounted any decrease in the GDP which it could “attribute” to rising oil and food costs. It also refused to consider any one-time “write-downs”, such as had been done throughout the financial sectors in response to the credit crisis.
The end result is that according to the Commerce Dept., the financial sector (banks, brokerage firms, lenders, etc.) enjoyed a profit increase of 24.7%!!!! As a Merrill Lynch economist stated, upon seeing those numbers: “Are you kidding me?”
Finally, the Commerce Dept. applied an adjustment to account for the results of domestic inflation. This is not unusual, it is the ordinary process by which the Commerce Dept. tries to make sure that the numbers it is counting show “real growth”, not just nominal growth accounted for solely by inflation. But what is interesting is that during the second quarter of 2008, the Commerce Dept. decided to apply an inflation adjustment (known as a “deflater”) which pegged inflation at only 1.3, a figure which was half of the number used in the first quarter, and equal to a ten-year low.
At a time when gas prices were going through the roof, basic food items were doubling in price, and many other items were increasing at a rapid pace, the Commerce Dept. decided that inflation was at a 10 year low!!!!!
As stated by two noted economists: “Quite frankly, we do not think the report passes the economic commonsense sniff test,” (John Ryding and Conrad DeQuadros at RDQ Economics.)
Critics: GDP fails ‘commonsense sniff test’
To me, it looks like a repeat of the process described by David Stockman, Reagan’s first budget director. When the facts are inconvenient, cook the books to create whatever result you prefer. Stockman was describing the Reagan administration’s orders to him to do whatever it took to create a budget which appeared to be balanced within a few years, despite massive tax cuts. He did so by creating what he called a “rosey scenario” which anticipated economic growth in excess of 12% per year, a figure which had no basis in fact or experience, but was only based upon Reagan’s faith that the tax cuts would spur record economic performance. This “rosy scenario” was widely condemned by economists and the General Accounting Office. In the end, the economy performed much like that predicted by the General Accounting Office, and the country was deep in red ink until tax increases during the George H.W. Bush and Clinton administrations restored fiscal sanity and eventually resulted in a balance budget twenty years later – only to have it trashed by the current Bush administration.
So why is the Commerce Dept. fudging the numbers? Obviously, they want to remove the economy from the current presidential campaign. They want this campaign to be about “personalities”, not issues or substance. Every time Obama points out the pain being suffered by average Americans, McCain will point to these numbers and claim that the economy is doing quite well, thank you.
Likewise, note that the Labor Dept. has changed the way they account for inflation. It’s expected that by the end of this quarter, they will report that annual inflation is less than 3.5%, even though we all know better.
Do you support Obama?
If yes – you support this!
One simple question Pelletizer? Where did you get the “fact” Bristol Palin is on her second child?
Not from the MSM.
The Prosecution Rests
Pelletizer, I’ve used factcheck.org for years to debunk the liberal sewage posted here on Animal Farm
Impressive Pelletizer. I am sure rhp6033 is proud!
When you are labeled as soft on defense so you had to enlist the biggest blowhard senator to bolster your “credentials”, you have to know dem facts!
Simple. Lets look it up in his book.
Oops, it’s not in his books. I guess either he forgot it when writing, didn’t think the left wingnuts buying the book would approve or he just made it up.
Either way, it doesn’t make obama look presidential.
I think Palin is hot! If McCain doesn’t win the election at lease he will have a hot mistress!! If Obama looses he will probably help Michelle complete her book titled “Diary of a Mad Black Woman…Part 2”. Or perhaps he will start writing the sequel to his first book and titled it “The audacity of me thinking I could become president”…subtitle…”Screw Hope – I am kicking Ass next time”
OOPS!, I didn’t mean to offend you Obama supporters. My bad. I am leaving town now.
Opinion:
Although Palin’s entrance on the national scene has been beneficial to McCain and the republican ticket lets not forget that it’s the number of electoral college votes that determines who wins the white house. …And so far, Obama is way ahead by a large margin.
In the national polls, McCain leads by 2 points (depends on which poll you believe in). However, despite your preference in polls it is clear that McCain has edged or surpassed Obama. BUT, McCain is loosing where it really counts and that’s among the Electoral College votes. Among the Electoral College standings Obama has safely captured 243 electoral votes while McCain has only 189.
It appear that McCain is on the brink of making the same mistake Hillary made and that is to focus on the big states, winning the most popular votes. Governor Palin will definitely earn her appointment in this category. Unfortunately, she has not shown any depth of wisdom or credibility to impress the electorate college. She will need to change her tune and go beyond her convention speech. So far, all we’ve heard from her are echoes of the convention speeches and we’re still waiting for a solo performance from her. Can she do it? Can she perform on the national level independently? …and how will she handle the commentators, and news media without a supporting crowd?
Remember, there are 538 electors up for grab and the candidate who gets half (270) wins the election and Obama is already at the 234 mark. The race is in the home stretch with 2 1/2 laps to go. McCain/Palin will need more than flash and popularity to win. They will need a majority of the electors in eight key states; Colorado, Florida, Michigan, Missouri, New Hampshire, Nevada, Ohio, and Virginia. Palin may help his win the evangelical votes in Missouri, provided there are no additional surprises in her closet.
Unfortunately, Palin is an unknown among these states and they don’t necessarily like John either. The two states with the largest electorate vote that McCain must win to surpass Obama are Missouri with its 11 votes and Florida. Among the Electoral College, voters do not choose a candidate but a slate of electors who have pledged to vote for that particular candidate when the Electoral College meets which is usually in December for their respective states.
Remember also that Joe Biden has a very strong record in the Electoral College and will be a great asset in these states. Most people think that Obama picked Biden simply for his foreign affairs experience, which is a true statement however, he was also picked to support Obama’s strategy of winning the electorate votes.
So far, Obama’s strategy is working. I really felt McCain should have picked Palin before the Democratic National Convention. It would have stolen a lot of thunder from the democrats.
Oh well, another lesson learned.