by Lee, 06/30/2008, 10:47 AM

This post is dedicated to the folks at Crosscut.

33 Responses to “Open Thread”

1. Seattle Jew spews:

I just looked at CC for the first time in several months. It is sad to see.

They seemingly do not understand web design at all. The major feature is a sort of blog that covers everything from potholes to poetry. Because it scrolls, even an interesting aricle quickly fades.

The emphasis on the arts is a mixed blessing. I like the arts and am happy to see good coverage. But as stew with politics, the result in the the veggies and meat get unequally cooked.

Finally, the overall feel is gentile. Too gentile.

In a way, this reminds me of a somewhat intellectual version of Seattle Magazine .. their motto is, “Never Offend the Rich Folks.”

2. spyder spews:

Of course the real reason we were admonished in the 50s to change our clothes, and make special occasions every night for dinner, was to sell more and more commodities and consumer goods. “See them there the little piggies living piggy lives, clutching forks and knives” (well that being the flatware used for everyday use rather than the plated silver for Sundays and the real silver for those really special days). Then again, maybe this was the:

One reason that men abuse their wives is because women rebel against their husband’s God-given authority, a Southern Baptist scholar said Sunday in a Texas church.

Bruce Ware, professor of Christian theology at Southern Baptist Theological Seminary in Louisville, Ky., said women desire to have their own way instead of submitting to their husbands because of sin.

“And husbands on their parts, because they’re sinners, now respond to that threat to their authority either by being abusive, which is of course one of the ways men can respond when their authority is challenged–or, more commonly, to become passive, acquiescent, and simply not asserting the leadership they ought to as men in their homes and in churches,” Ware said from the pulpit of Denton Bible Church in Denton, Texas

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http://ethicsdaily.com/article_detail.cfm?AID=10675

3. YellowPup spews:

Coming up on Crosscut: a searing expose on the advantages (and tradeoffs) of using these newfangled word processors over good old fashioned typewriters:

Microsoft Word is fast (and I hear it can even check your spelling!), but there is danger in allowing just anyone print their work like a pro, regardless of their journalistic credentials.

My Gawd.

4. SeattleJew spews:

Hay, at least CC doesn’t use MS Autowriter!

5. ArtFart spews:

2 There are a number of people who I like very well who live or have lived in Texas.

For the life of me, I can’t understand why.

6. ArtFart spews:

2 Oh…so we’re supposed to go out and spend our money for gas and Big Macs instead? Eyyyyuch!

7. I-Burn spews:

@5 What’s wrong with Texas?

8. proud leftist spews:

Here’s a challenge: try to say “principled Republican” out loud. I can’t do it.

9. Steve spews:

@8 Try laughing when you say it.

10. Steve spews:

Try coming up with a sentence that includes the words “moral compass” and “Republican” in it. That one’s always good for a laugh.

11. I-Burn spews:

@10

The lack of a moral compass is a maledy afflicting politicians of both the Democratic and the Republican parties.

Do I win a prize?

12. Steve spews:

@11 Silly, of course not.

13. YLB spews:

Yikes my last post with two links didn’t take. Oh well…

It was about Will Baker. He’s running for Governor, you know.

Let’s see if one link works:

http://tinyurl.com/4gke9t

14. GBS spews:

Worst finish for the Dow Jones Industrial Average since June 1930.

Yep, those Republicans sure “get” the economy!

15. GBS spews:

All we need is McSame in office to finish off 9/11 for bin Laden.

16. Marvin Stamn spews:

10. Steve spews:
Try coming up with a sentence that includes the words “moral compass” and “Republican” in it. That one’s always good for a laugh.

  
A lot of Republicans with a moral compass are disappointed in the bush administration.

17. Steve spews:

@16 I think we have a winner.

18. proud leftist spews:

16 and 17
“Lacking a moral compass, the Republican congressman bellied up to the special-interests trough, stuck his face into the muck, and slurped with abandon.”

19. ByeByeGOP spews:

Kieth had a great list of Johnboy McCain’s flip flops on his show tonight. Of course – the republicans don’t want that to get out so they’ll make personal attacks on President Obama. But if FlipFlop McCain is running on his record, he’s got some splanin’ to do.

20. Puddybud spews:

bybygoober, the other day you tried to tie John McCain to me with Wesley Clark’s comments.

But wasn’t Wesley Clark the “commander” when he bombed the Chinese embassy in Belgrade? Why yes he was. Why wasn’t the “intelligence” correct for the address. I guess if you can’t make sure your addresses are correct before you bomb you shouldn’t be on SEE BS Sunday show talking out yer ASS!

Check it out in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wesley_Clark

See ya goober.

21. ByeByeGOP spews:

Puddybuttlicker – What DOES being shot down and costing the taxpayers millions of dollars and helping the VC find out where are troops are to save your own ass have to do with being qualified to be President?

As for intelligence….are you talking about intelligence like the GOP-appointed intelligence agencies we have now who can’t find the REAL guy behind 9.11, Bush family friend Osama bin Laden? Yeah that is something to be ashamed of.

22. ByeByeGOP spews:

By the way Puddybuttlicker I agree that the GOP is full of Goobers so good name! ByeBye Goobers – I might start using that one. Although I need another 17 to catch up with you.

23. pu spews:

byebye your a fuckin idiot mccane was in the navy so he would not know where ground troops were.your a fuckwad coward.you would of told the vc your mom suck dicks if they would leave you alone now run along so your mother can change your diaper.

24. FricknFrack spews:

Thanks! THAT YouTube was a hoot!

25. Daddy Love spews:

20 Pud

Yeah, Pud, didn’t you knw that the Supreme Allied Commander Europe of NATO personally does all of the targeting for every mission and cleans the toilets at NATO headquarters?

Give me a break. You seemed to miss in that Wikipedia article that Wes Clark was valdictorian of his West Point class and a Rhodes Scholar, while John McCain barely kept from flunking out of Annapolis, and that probably only because of his family.

26. Puddybud spews:

Diddly NAMBLA Love:

What does education have to do with anything? I see it didn’t help John Effin Kerry. Oh that’s right he got lower marks than GWB. I see it didn’t help Clark who was summarily “FIRED” from his NATO position later.

Randy Black says: “Retired General Hugh Shelton was asked the same question after giving a talk at a college in California. Shelton, the former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, was Clark’s boss in 1999 when Clark was unceremoniously told that he was being removed from his position as Supreme Allied Commander, Europe. “I’ve known Wes for a long time,” Shelton said. “I will tell you the reason he came out of Europe early had to do with integrity and character issues, things that are very near and dear to my heart. . . .” http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/?031117fa_fact

Another view: General Wesley Clark was fired by Secretary of Defense William Cohen shortly after the war ended ­and, just to make sure Clark didn’t try to make an end-run, the chiefs leaked the firing to the Washington Post. The reasons for his dismissal seem clear: Clark had pushed a policy that Cohen and the chiefs had opposed (and, even after the war, continued to oppose); he went around them in his advocacy; he was too close, for the chiefs’ taste, to Clinton (in signing Clark’s release papers, Clinton was led to believe the move was a normal succession, not a dismissal); and, toward the end of the war, he pushed for a ground-invasion option that none of the Pentagon’s top officials supported in the slightest. http://slate.msn.com/id/2091194/

But then the coup de grace, a PuddyFact placed here long ago: Newsweek magazine’s Howard Fineman reports that in January, 2003, Wesley Clark told associates that, “I would have been a Republican if Karl Rove had returned my phone calls.”

Butt Diddly NAMBLA Love there is more, much more about Wesley Clark –

1. On May 11, 2001, speaking to the Pulaski County GOP Lincoln Day Dinner in Little Rock, Arkansas, the words of Wesley Clark:
“And I’m very glad we’ve got the great team in office, men like Colin Powell, Don Rumsfeld, Dick Cheney, Condoleezza Rice… people I know very well — our president George W. Bush. We need them there.”
2. Words of Wesley Clark about President Reagan: “We were really helped when President Ronald Reagan came in. I remember non-commissioned officers who were going to retire and they re-enlisted because they believed in President Reagan. That’s the kind of President Ronald Reagan was. He helped our country win the Cold War. He put it behind us in a way no one ever believed would be possible. He was truly a great American leader. And those of us in the Armed Forces loved him, respected him, and tremendously admired him for his great leadership.”
3. Words of Wesley Clark about President George HW Bush: “President George Bush had the courage and the vision… and we will always be grateful to President George Bush for that tremendous leadership and statesmanship.”
4. Words of Wesley Clark about American military involvement overseas: “Do you ever ask why it is that these people in these other countries can’t solve their own problems without the United States sending its troops over there? And do you ever ask why it is the Europeans, the people that make the Mercedes and the BMW’s that got so much money can’t put some of that money in their own defense programs and they need us to do their defense for them?”
“And I’ll tell you what I’ve learned from Europe is that are a lot of people out in the world who really, really love and admire the United States. Don’t you ever believe it when you hear foreign leaders making nasty comments about us. That’s them playing to their domestic politics as they misread it. Because when you talk to the people out there, they love us. They love our values. They love what we stand for in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.”
http://www.opinioncenter.com/clark/

So Diddly NAMBLA Love, if you did your homework like Puddy does, you would have stumbled over these “facts”.

27. Puddybud spews:

Y’all can thank Wesley Clark for deflecting the “Patriotism” speech Obama tried to give. Now they are going back to see what the patriotic Obama had to say about lapel pins months earlier.

Go back to October 2007 when he said he didn’t need to wear a lapel pin flag to be shown being patriotic. Now he is wearing them again?

Puddy remember reading this: http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/04/obamaflagpinlap.html

Also look at the tag link about George Soros throwing more money to his lefty attack dogs 527 web sites. Need to see the PuddyFact again on how all those wonderful websites used by Goldy’s NorthWest Wing of Lunatic Moonbat!s lead back to George Soros? Notice how it’s no longer denied?

Hmmm… just too convenient.

28. Puddybud spews:

I just had to replay this PuddyFact since HAs clueless idiot admitted his wife was a SEIU member.

Hey Darryl, I’m making a point so I extracted just a small part of the article. Thanks – Puddy

“The Fund for America, an independent campaign group created by Soros, San Franciscan Rob McKay (a Taco Bell heir), and the Service Employees International Union, raised $4.1 million in the first 90 days of the year, pushing the total money harvest since its creation late last year to $10.8 million.”

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/04/billionaire-geo.html

So we see not only is HAs clueless idiot indoctrinated by the George Soros kool-aid sites but his wife is too through SEIU. So I guess I’ll have to admit someone married HAs clueless idiot and they drink from the same trough every morning. At least we know one of them works right HAs clueless idiot?

29. GBS spews:

The Dow Jones only needs to shed 639 more points and all the gains over the failed Bush presidency will be wiped out.

That’s something you NEVER heard during the Clinton administration.

Republicans are failures. Period.

30. GBS spews:

Puddybud @ 27:

So does that now mean you’re NOT voting for Barak?

Are you flip-flopping?

Or, are you going to spout the party smear message and then go vote for Obama?

31. ROTCODDAM spews:

“What does education have to do with anything?”

You could have stopped right there. Those eight words perfectly encapsulate the modern movement conservative in all its splendor.

32. Puddybud spews:

GBS: I’m sitting this one out. Too many issues with my positions!

33. GBS spews:

Puddybud,

What do you mean? You’re not casting a vote for president?