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Open Thread 2/27

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– Poor, poor Koch Brothers.

– If Rick Santorum had his way, I wouldn’t have been able to get that test, and she most likely would have died. Because according to him, tests that give parents vital information about the health of their unborn children are morally wrong. Though he has no medical training, and no business commenting on the medical decisions that women and their doctors make, he argues that such tests shouldn’t be provided, or that employers at least should be allowed to opt out of paying for them on “moral grounds.”

– Shaun has some more on the proposed marriage equality plank for the Democratic platform.

– If the Yes Men have corporate America so afraid, they must be doing something right.

– Nobody expects the vaginal inquisition.

– the female orgasm is a violation of religious liberty.

Comments

  2. 2

    Guns Don’t Kill People Dep’t

    Well, here we go again … an Ohio high school junior — described as an “outcast” going through a “gothic phase” — took a revolver to school and shot 5 fellow students, 4 males and 1 female, who apparently were targeted rather than randomly selected. One is dead, and 3 of the 4 wounded are critical. The shooter is in custody.

    http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_n.....l-shooting

    Roger Rabbit Commentary: We all know guns are inert objects that don’t kill people by themselves; guns kill people only when they’re picked up by some immature kid with emotional problems who loads it, takes it to school, points it at a fellow student’s back in the school cafeteria, and pulls the trigger. Bang! Bang! Bang! Bang! Bang! Another dead kid, and 3 more airlifted to hospitals, where they’re fighting for their lives. How the hell did this freak get the gun? Don’t even bother to ask that question in a country where Republican legislators think anyone should be able to get a handgun without a background check and carry it anywhere without a permit.

  3. 3

    In California, an 11-year-old girl died a few hours after being punched in a schoolyard fight with another girl … over a boy.

    http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_n.....hool-fight

    Mrs. Rabbit Commentary (relayed by Roger Rabbit): “This is ridiculous! No boy is worth it!! Especially you, you fat-assed, good-for-nothing, lazy hare! Any bunny stupid enough to want you, can have you!!!”

    Roger Rabbit Commentary: Uh-oh, she’s got a frying pan, I’m outta here!!!

  4. 4

    Roger Rabbit-
    I agree that finding out where this idiot got the gun is very important. There are already bureaucracies set up to do background checks and to get concealed weapons permits. The problem is there are over 1 Billion guns already in the US. Obama’s folks have made even more available with his idiotic Fast & Furious debacle. I’m sure we will see a ridiculous overreaction and try to make people fantasize that somehow we can always account for over 1 billion guns. But the fact is you will never, ever control guns from getting into the hands of a freak like this guy. Yes, you can make it more difficult for billions & billions of dollars per year of bureaucracy. But if dipshits like this idiot want a gun, they will get it.

  5. 5

    An old friend of mine told the story of an incident during her senior year at a Catholic high school in the Midwest. The monsignor who served as chaplain for the school (and was well along in years and probably in the middle stages of Alzheimer’s) took her aside one day for a little chat.

    He told her that she must enter a convent or get married before she was 21, and to be sure “not to marry a man who she was in love with”. His explanation for that last part was that “if you’re in love with him, you might be tempted to have sexual intercourse…and you must never do that!”

    He then went on to inform her that she absolutely must have a child every nine months and get it baptized as soon as possible.

    It was at that point that my friend decided to leave the church.

  6. 6

    I suppose the NRA types are gonna argue that guns are no more dangerous than fists.

  7. 7

    This is an interest story about the Media Matters head guy

    Media Matters chief David Brock paid a former domestic partner $850,000 after being threatened with damaging information involving the organization’s donors and the IRS – a deal that Brock later characterized as a blackmail payment, according to legal documents obtained by FoxNews.com.
    In an acrimonious lawsuit settled at the end of last year, Brock accused William Grey of making repeated threats to expose him to the “scorn or ridicule of his employees, donors and the press in demanding money and property.” Brock claimed in legal papers that he sold a Rehoboth Beach, Del., home he once shared with Grey in order to meet Grey’s demands, which he called “blackmail” in the lawsuit.

    Former Vacation home of Media Matters Founder David Brock, a converted inn house in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware. Brock sold the home in May 2010. The current owner razed the house and divided the plot for two new properties. Brock’s bitter legal battle with Grey, who is described in a Sept. 14, 2010, police report obtained by FoxNews.com as his domestic partner of more than 10 years, began after Brock began dating Washington, D.C., restaurant impresario James Alefantis about five years ago. For the next three years, Brock and Grey traded angry accusations, which were documented in the police report and were the foundation of a pitched legal battle replete with charges of blackmail, theft and financial malfeasance.

    Wow, what a battle. I wonder if Brooks used any of the “non-profit” donations to settle with his lover?

  8. 8

    @4 Oh please. The president of the United States doesn’t personally supervise low-level ATF employees. He found out about this fiasco the same way the rest of us did, by reading about it in the newspapers. And for the record, AFT’s “gunwalking” schemes started in 2006, under the BUSH administration. And for what it’s worth, “Operation Fast and Furious” exported guns to Mexico, slightly decreasing the number of guns in the U.S., not increasing the domestic gun supply as you suggest.

    As for teenage dipshits getting guns, not to worry, we don’t need a vast and expensive bureaucracy; one trial lawyer is all it takes to make sure the parent(s) who left that gun laying around where a messed-up kid could get it will never again have enough money to their name(s) to own so much as a straw to shoot peas with.

  9. 9

    @7 “I wonder if Brooks used any of the “non-profit” donations to settle with his lover?”

    I wonder if you sell child porn to support a drug habit? … If you wanna make off-the-wall speculations to smear someone, I know how to play that game, too.

  10. 10

    @7: You just couldn’t stay away, could you Klynical? Your goats just weren’t enough…

  11. 11

    It was farmers in Nebraska, not environmentalists in California or on the east coast* that stopped the Keystone Pipeline, nice to see the national media finally getting the story straight.

    Radio reporters Guy Raz and Brent Baughman did a report over the weekend on why the Obama administration turned down a permit for the Keystone XL pipeline. They found the reason in rural Nebraska.

    Remember that Jane Mayer of The New Yorker magazine said the credit for the defeat of Keystone (the pipeline that would carry tar sands oil from Canada to the Gulf Coast) should go to Vermont professor Bill McKibben and East Coast activists.
    http://www.dailyyonder.com/mon.....02/27/3785

    *When have people on either coast given a fuck about what happens in Nebraska?

  12. 12

    Wow, the stock market’s been on a wild ride today. Everyone expected it to crash as soon as trading opened due to gas prices. It did take a steep drop on opening, but within an hour it was back – and above the opening numbers. Right now, with little over an hour before closing, it’s one point above 13,000, having risen some 18+ points so far.

    Of course, with an hour left in the trading day, anything could happen – traders in for the short term could decide to get out before the day ends, locking in profits.

    Perhaps the traditional investors recognize that the oil prices are a mere momentary blip on the radar?

  13. 13

    Hmmm… I see another swooner for Darrell Issa here.. Will we see the walker raise a “fountainhead” for Paul Ryan?

    We can only be so blessed.

  14. 14

    @12

    Wow, the stock market’s been on a wild ride today. Everyone expected it to crash as soon as trading opened due to gas prices.

    Why would they expect that? We’ve seen $110 a barrel oil before and we know we can handle it.

  15. 15

    # 8: In other words, another dispute to be played out in the media, with unproven charges and counter-charges designed to wear down the other? Or perhaps a replay of the McCourt battle which revealed who they had sucked the life out of the LA Dodgers before splitting up and arguing over who should own the team?

    (*Yawn*)

    Generally, I’m skeptical. Media Maters has been skewering the lies of politicians on both the left and right, but since Republicans tell a lot more lies than Democrats, it hurts them more. Republcians have tried to argue that it’s reporting has a left-wing bias, but only people who watch only Fox News believes them. I’ve been expecting a hatchet-job directed at Media Matters for quite some time. I don’t know if this is it, or if they are taking advantage of a quarrel and simply magnifying it, but you can be sure they will seek to destroy anybody who tells the truth about them.

  16. 16

    more than a decade after its implosion, we still owe $69 million on the Kingdome, while losing millions of dollars a year on KeyArena, thanks in part to a $75 million refurbishment in 1995 that was financed by 20-year bonds but secured by only a 15-year lease.
    http://www.thestranger.com/sea.....d=12735183

    Just who exactly is the “we” that Goldy’s talking about in regards to the King Dome?

  17. 17

    16 – King County taxpayers?

    Aaahhh. As I was surveying right wing websites last night I saw the nutcases blaming the run-up in gasoline prices on the policies of the Obama administration…

    What? They mean the policy of getting out of the way of the “free market”.. Sorry right wingers, it’s just plain old supply and demand and it’s mostly GLOBAL demand..

    The U.S. is producing more natural gas and crude oil and the world is buying our gasoline. So while domestic demand for gasoline has fallen and is kinda weak, the rest of world, east asia in particular, is on a tear for the stuff. Yes, some old, dated refineries in the east are being shut down and that’s contributing to the problem as well..

    Refiners just want to make the bucks. Got anything against that right wing dopes?

    This story sheds some light:

    http://www.npr.org/2012/02/25/.....gas-prices

    and this one debunks any goldbug paranoia about the “debased dollar” (sorry yd(iot), you fail again):

    http://www.businessinsider.com.....-us-2012-2

  18. 18

    Re Gary Moore — Get ahold of yourself, Gary! 190 million guns in the U.S. is not anywhere near the 1 billion you say there is.

  19. 19

    Where are the reporter calling him out on this at every campaign stop? Where is the coverage on fox news? Cause if you know if President Obama had said something like this, they would have lead with this at EVERY every hour. But Santorum is a republican, so he gets a pass.

    http://worldnews.msnbc.msn.com.....etherlands

  21. 21

    Newt is promising to be the #2.50 per gallon gas president, saying he could accomplish this within his first weeks in office by drilling everywhere and removing envirnonmental controls on drilling and refineries.

    What an idiot.

  22. 22

    In the meantime, back at the circus which is the Republican primary:

    It seems that Romney and his key people were expecting him to be the clear winner at this point, which would allow him to use his campaign money and time to start campaigning against Obama, months before the nominating convention.

    Last week he was meeting with donars and telling them that it looks like it won’t be until May when he secures the nomination, and he will have to campaign hard for the nomination until that point. Donars were also told to pull out their checkbooks and prepare to double or triple their original investments in him.

    Sounds like a typical mergers and acquisition deal to me. If things start to look bad, the guys running the show don’t take it out of their cut. They’ve got as little skin in the game as possible. They rely upon outside investors to take the risks. So when it looks like their projections weren’t worth the paper they were written on, they simply tell those investors that they have to shovel in more money, or risk losing their initial investment.

    But

  23. 23

    Santorum is calling the President a “snob” for wanting all Americans to have access to a college education.

    I guess Santorum doesn’t think a college education is worthwhile. After all, Santorum has three college degrees, and look at what little he learned from it?

  25. 25

    Okay, the DJIA was still up 1.04 at closing after a late sell-off (gee, I predicted something correctly!). But it still closed shy of the 3,000 mark – 12,981.51.

    That’s showing an awful lot of resiliance in the face of other pressures (uncertainty in the Middle East, etc., Greece problems still not resolved, etc.). It makes me wonder if there isn’t other money on the table waiting to drop into the market at the first sign that those other problems are going to be alleviated.

  26. 26

    18. Durward Kirby spews:
    “Re Gary Moore — Get ahold of yourself, Gary! 190 million guns in the U.S. is not anywhere near the 1 billion you say there is.?

    Actually, the FBI estimates that there are over 200 million privately-owned firearms in the US. If you add those owned by the military, law enforcement agencies and museums, there is probably about 1 gun per person in the country.

    If you want to get a rough idea of how many guns there are out there just look at how many people you see out there then multiply by a factor of estimated ownership. The last best guess was about 350,000,000 Total. That would be 1 weapon for every man woman and child. The average gun enthusiast owns several firearms which includes pistols, shotguns, and rifles of all makes and models. It is often estimated that about 1 in 4 people own any firearms and on average firearms owners own 4 guns each.

    However, my guess is that since Obama started Gun running in Mexico, the number has grown exponentially.

  27. 27

    I thought Obama was going to grab all the guns – at least that was the delusion going on when all those right wing assclowns loaded up on guns at the start of his term..

    Guns that they’d march around like little boys playing army at his appearances.

    Oh well it has to happen everytime a Dem gets into the White House no matter how much he bends to the right.

  28. 28

    my guess is that since Obama started Gun running in Mexico, the number has grown exponentially.

    Hmmm.. Guess.. i.e. pulling a fantasy out of one’s rectum..

    I’m sure Issa will make up a number for the hungry right wing hordes to paste at some point.

  30. 30

    # 25: Is the DJIA up 1.04, or down 1.04? The MSNBC feed had it reflected with a green arrow pointing up at the time I posted # 25, but later it was showing a red arrow pointed downward for the same number. Not a big deal, considering the very small change. I guess somebody at MSNBC made a mistake which was corrected shortly thereafter.

  31. 31

    great stats., Gary. But I still don’t see them adding up to 1 billion guns. Yet, you specifically stated 1 billion guns in several comments.

    Are you a liar or stupid — or a stupid liar?

  32. 32

    re 26: “However, my guess is that since Obama started Gun running in Mexico, the number has grown exponentially.”

    I doubt that Obama is gun-running in Mexico, but if he is, I hope that he uses convicted Republican felon Ollie North’s business model. And if Obama needs a good excuse, he can recycle Reagan’s excuse that he knew that running the guns to Nicaragua was illegal, but, gosh darn it, it didn’t FEEL illegal.

    And you suckers bought it.

    Stick to the blues guitar, Gary — and leave the politics to us.

  33. 33

    @27

    I thought Obama was going to grab all the guns – at least that was the delusion going on when all those right wing assclowns loaded up on guns at the start of his term.

    Now the righties are claiming that if Obama wins a second term the first thing he’s gonna do is come after your guns. Never mind that all he did in regards to guns in his first term is make it legal to carry them in national parks and on Amtrak.

    Even if they were going to come after my guns, it’s not illegal to buy, sell, give, or inherit, guns without any paper work going to the gun store or gov’ment. You could have a fucking armory worth of guns that no one knows about.

  34. 34

    @33 continued…
    Or you could just tell the nice man with the badge you sold your guns years ago and have them stashed somewhere.

    Btw, HA’s saying I don’t have permission to edit my own comments.

  35. 35

    @25
    Greece is resolved in the sense that everyone knows that Greece ain’t paying most (or all) of that money back. The more they kick the can down the road the worse the problem will be in the end, but the folks in charge are only looking very short term and short term looks like busted windows and burning buildings if they seal the deal. So kick that can down the road and maybe it can be someone else’s problem…

  36. 36

    We should have had a bankruptcy hat-trick back when Iceland went under. Greece, Ireland, and Iceland all in one deal. They’d all be halfway to healthy by now and the bankers that fucked everyone over would have taken the biggest hit.

  37. 37

    Now the righties are claiming that if Obama wins a second term the first thing he’s gonna do is come after your guns.

    Groaaaannn.. The gay thing’s starting to wear off but the teh gun scare is still going strong it seems.

  38. 38

    Heh. This ought to warm the heart of our new friendo. St. Warren strikes back at the fat bully:

    Warren Buffett hit back at Chris Christie on Monday for recently suggesting that the billionaire “just write a check and shut up,” sarcastically calling the New Jersey governor’s remarks “a touching response.”

    “It’s sort of a touching response to a $1.2 trillion deficit, isn’t it? That somehow the American people will all send in checks and take care of it?” Buffett said in an interview with CNBC.

    and he doesn’t leave out the turtle man, Senator No:

    “It’s sort of astounding to me that somebody that has the responsibility for being the minority leader in the Senate would think that you attack a $1.2 trillion or so deficit by asking for voluntary contributions,” Buffett said, referring to McConnell’s suggestion last month that the billionaire “send in a check” if he’s feeling so “guilty” about his low tax rate.

    He added, “Since he did, I offered to triple his. But that’s a side show. The real problem we have is we’re taking in too little money and we’re spending too much. And that’s not going to be solved by voluntary contributions.”

    http://www.politico.com/news/s.....73323.html

  39. 39

    And yet Warren Buffett hires dozens upon dozens of accountants to make sure he pays the least amount of taxes possible.

    Buffett is just like every other politician: Say one thing and do another.

  40. 40

    39 – zzzzZZZzzzzz.. The racist asshat assklown believes you can run a government on “voluntary contributions”…

    Wow if only the outfit he scams free gas from ran that way. Oh waitasec! Maybe it does!

  41. 41

    Wow if only the outfit he scams free gas from ran that way. Maybe it does.

    wtf?

  42. 42

    @40

    oh jobless lazy one: where did I say the govt should run on voluntary contributions? Oh thats right, I didnt.

    Im just laughing as Warren plays all you progressives for the fools you are.

    and guess what, Warren is laughing too.

  44. 44

    @43

    HAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH

    thats called NEGOTIATING ONES COMPENSATION.

    I know, its something a little troll like you is unfamiliar with.

    maybe you can negotiate with the Washington State unemployment folks for a raise….and a gas card!

    my my my…you really hate(read: jealousy) people who work hard and are even mildly successful.

    Have fun with your database and blog – Im sure they both pay well.

  46. 46

    thats called NEGOTIATING ONES COMPENSATION.

    Just anyone’s for the asking! Heh. I bet it makes the commute on I-5 or around the S curves that much easier for the typical working slob!

    What an assklown!

  48. 48

    You really are little under-educated troll, arent you…..and it shows on your W2.

    let me know how those negotiations go…

    Im off to run into the shop and play with some cool stuff….you can stay here and the monitor goldy’s blog…LMFAO…

  50. 50

    Just anyone’s for the asking!

    nope, just those that deserve it.

    which is why you dont qualify.

    heaping spoonfuls of jealousy….

  52. 52

    Study: Rich Are More Dishonest

    You know how Republicans claim the poor are “immoral?” Read this before you buy that crap:

    “In a series of experiments, University of California at Berkeley researchers showed again and again that upper-class individuals were more prone to unethical behavior than people from more deprived backgrounds, according to the study published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.

    “Paul Piff, a doctoral candidate and the study’s lead author, says he was surprised at how little incentive it took to get high-income people to cheat. …

    “Piff suspects that a combination of factors, including greed and a heightened sense of entitlement, are what spur the wealthy to cheat.”

    http://vitals.msnbc.msn.com/_n.....arch-finds

    Roger Rabbit Commentary: I think many wealthy people get that way because they were ethically challenged to begin with, and people whose values are based on money ofen are very insecure.

  53. 53

    Roger Rabbit Commentary: I think many wealthy people get that way because they were ethically challenged to begin with, and people whose values are based on money ofen are very insecure.

    LOL..so says the guy who repeatedly posts about his investment prowess…

  54. 54

    Can’t anybody on Santorum’s campaign just tell him to shut up already?

    I mean, we came to expect some of this mindless prattle from Sarah Palin, who jumped from college to college without (to the best of my information) ever graduating. But you have a guy with three college degrees, and he still doesn’t know enough to keep his mouth shut before he shoots off another fact-empty assertion.

    For example, today it’s reported that in a speech over the weekend, he blamed the rescession on $4.00 per gallon gas in the spring/early summer of 2008. He claims that people couldn’t afford $4.00 per gallong gas, so they put off buying homes for a while, causing the housing collapse.

    Ignoring completely that the gas prices rose AFTER the U.S. was already in a rescession which started during the third quarter of 2007, and dropped back down in the mid-summer of 2008, before the financial markets collapsed.

    But I guess he’s not going after the vote of anyone who actaully thinks.

    Forget the fact that

  56. 56

    @50 … “deserve” … now there’s an interesting word … yes, those who habitually lie, cheat, and steal believe they “deserve” the exalted status their ill-gotten wealth buys for them. I’m sure Meyer Lansky always considered himself a pillar of the community.

  57. 57

    I’m sure there’s some bank tellers out there who think they “deserve” to live in a banker’s mansion because they spread their legs for the branch manager.

  58. 58

    @47

    You haven’t been paying much attention to Iceland, have you?

    They’re torching their Range Rovers and planting big gardens because they can’t afford to import food any more. But, they’d be doing the same if they hadn’t declared bankruptcy and they’d probably be doing it for longer. Had they not gone bankrupt they’d have other countries and big banks lording over them and snatching away any profit they managed to make for decades. Better to cut the cord, flip the world the bird, and start fresh.

    As it is, Iceland’s still owes a crap load of money to people, but it’s a debit they can afford to pay back and their credit rating’s was bumped up to a BBB yesterday. They’re halfway back to healthy while Greece is still digging its self into a hole and Ireland is going to be completely fucked for a long time to come.

  59. 59

    @54
    It’s a ham-handed attempt to use the talking point du jour: Obama will be brought down, or is at least vulnerable, by high gas prices.

  61. 61

    Now that we’ve seen the Stratfor e-mail dump, we’ve learned that corporatists are assholes.

  63. 63

    Alright, I’ve been rooting for Santorum to beat Romney because he’s easier to beat for Obama in November. But, this dick is Talibanic. His attack on Jack Kennedy’s speech about the separation of church and state, his thoughts on contraception, his hatred of gays, make me start to think we can’t possibly take a chance he could be the Republican Party’s candidate. Thoughts?

  64. 64

    @63 I’ve been thinking along those lines myself. This actually started a couple years ago with the question, “What if Palin won?”

  65. 65

    64
    Seriously, Roger, what would it say about the greatest democracy in human history if Rick Santorum became one of the two major candidates vying for the presidency? This guy comes from not the high times of the Middle Ages (the 1300s), but more like the early times of the Dark Ages (the 700s). I cannot believe American politics has fallen so far.

  66. 66

    An Israeli Strike On Iran Looks Like This

    Probability: 50%

    Time Window: April – June 2012

    Force: 124 aircraft plus sub-launched cruise missiles and unmanned drones

    Flight Path: Poorly defended Jordanian and Iraqi airspace

    Targets: Up to 12 sites inside Iran

    Ordnance: 100+ 5000lb. bunker buster bombs plus a bunch of smaller ones

    Expected Result: Delay but not derail Iran’s nuclear program

    (Source: The Economist)

  67. 67

    A Lion Passes

    “Mr Rosset died last Tuesday. Like many great publishers, he will be remembered for the books he brought to the reading public. Like all too few he will also be remembered for the principles he stood for, at great personal risk and financial cost. And he will be remembered not just for the literature he midwived but also for the idea he killed: the notion, beloved of prigs and dictators, of the small-minded and power-hungry, that one person has the right to decide what another should read.”

    http://www.economist.com/blogs.....ney-rosset

  68. 68

    # 63, 64: Yea, I’ve been thinking about that a bit as well. I remember back in 1990, thinking that nobody in their right mind would elect a B-list actor who had spoken publically for the abolishment of Social Security, and who’s plan to balance the budget was “smoke and mirrors”, as George H.W. Bush asserted. It’s been hard to find a rational Republican ever since 1980, they think the secret of success (winning elections) is to keep moving further and further to the right.

  69. 69

    7. Gary Moore spews:

    This is an interest story about the Media Matters head guy

    Media Matters chief David Brock paid a former domestic partner $850,000 after being threatened with damaging information involving the organization’s donors and the IRS – a deal that Brock later characterized as a blackmail payment, according to legal documents obtained by FoxNews.com.
    In an acrimonious lawsuit settled at the end of last year, Brock accused William Grey of making repeated threats to expose him to the “scorn or ridicule of his employees, donors and the press in demanding money and property.” Brock claimed in legal papers that he sold a Rehoboth Beach, Del., home he once shared with Grey in order to meet Grey’s demands, which he called “blackmail” in the lawsuit.

    Former Vacation home of Media Matters Founder David Brock, a converted inn house in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware. Brock sold the home in May 2010. The current owner razed the house and divided the plot for two new properties. Brock’s bitter legal battle with Grey, who is described in a Sept. 14, 2010, police report obtained by FoxNews.com as his domestic partner of more than 10 years, began after Brock began dating Washington, D.C., restaurant impresario James Alefantis about five years ago. For the next three years, Brock and Grey traded angry accusations, which were documented in the police report and were the foundation of a pitched legal battle replete with charges of blackmail, theft and financial malfeasance.

    Wow, what a battle. I wonder if Brooks used any of the “non-profit” donations to settle with his lover?

    Oh.

    Faux News (home of the INTERNATIONAL PHONE HACKING SCANDAL) is going after Media Matters.

    Gee, I wonder why?

    It couldn’t be because Media Matters takes actual bullshit clownservative quotes, puts the actual footage online with “fact checks” and shows what liars and morons the right-wing controlled media are?

    Oh no. Not a chance.

  71. 71

    http://www.americablog.com/201.....ement.html

    Tuesday, February 28, 2012

    Court documents show deeper involvement in hacking at Murdoch paper

    By Chris in Paris on 2/28/2012 01:45:00 PM

    Oh my, this is not looking very good for Rupert Murdoch’s team. Each day reveals something deeper and larger than the day before. When there is such an extensive culture of corruption among a team, you have to start looking at the leadership. The Guardian:

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/medi.....d-mulcaire

    Phone hacking: six News of the World staff instructed Mulcaire, papers allege

    Court documents submitted on behalf of hacking victims allege ‘conspiracy’ between private investigator and senior executives

    Heh, heh…

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