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Just because one thing improves with age, doesn’t mean everything does.
I wonder if he likes single malt as much as Ted Kennedy does.
Tell me… why the fuck does every fucking stoopid moonbat woman politician here hafta bring in the single mother angle? Is that a requirement now? Is some kind of badge of fucking honor?
http://blog.seattletimes.nwsou.....tml#026417
“She did mention that she was raised by a single mom and talked about sitting on a stool in the kitchen of the Rainbow and watching her mother work.
Has it escaped her that single mothers are the scourge of society?
Maybe this is the look Johnboy got on his face when he saw his first wife disfigured in a car crash – then he dumped her and went on to marry the beer heiress – oh yes – there we go beer.
@4 Your ignorance continues to astound. Please explain how McCain divorced his wife when he found she’d been disfigured? Since he divorced her seven fucking years after he returned from Vietnam, one can hardly fucking conclude that the one followed the other. But perhaps you have some other evidence? Perhaps you know more about it then anyone else? You’ve made it abdundently clear how thoroughly partisan you are, so you really don’t need to lie, as well, to display your contempt for an ideological opponent. Or perhaps it really is simple ignorance, afterall. Given your previous rantings, it probably is a more likely explanation.
Redneck: “Has it escaped her that single mothers are the scourge of society?”
Actually, the scourge of society is that segment of the population which is intolerant, judgmental, immune to reality, and heartless. That would be you, Redneck. You are a drain on our society, adding nothing but bile and vitriol. I’d tell you to go fuck yourself, but you probably can’t even get it up for yourself, even with a Newt Gingrich video playing on your tv.
Great letter from Todd Shipyards regarding the over bid on the new ferry…really puts things into perspective (especially the labor hours 140,000 to build the Pierce County Steilacoom II)
http://seattletimes.nwsource.c.....rry08.html
I think we need a new consultant, one who can estimate using todays prices, not prices from 5 years ago.
I-burn (at 11:17 AM)
Much as it pains me to defend RES/BBG, he’s right, and you’re wrong.
Senator McCain came back from Vietnam in 1973. During his captivity, his wife was disfigured in an auto accident.
After returning from Vietnam, and while still married to his first wife, Carol, he is claimed to have had several affairs of which he has admitted to at least one, to his current wife, Cindy.
He began seeing her, by his account, in 1979, and did not file for a divorce until 1980.
He did not obtain a divorce while in captivity.
You may believe that Senator McCain’s marrage had effectively ended before then, but that is what the documents show.
“Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but not their own facts.” Sen Daniel Patrick Moynihan
So, I-burn, just to make sure that you don’t twist my words as you have tried with BBG/RES, let’s check the events again.
First, he was captured.
Then, his wife was in an auto accident.
Then, he was released.
Then, he had one or more affairs.
Then, he divorced his wife.
Then, he married the heiress.
Or, perhaps you were defending him for having affairs with other women after finding his wife disfigured.
Nice fellow, Senator McCain. There was a time when I actually had some respect for the man, despite some of his politics, but the more I know about him, the less I respect him.
Getting captured by the Vietnamese does not excuse his cheating on his wife, then dumping her for the newer, prettier, richer model.
It’s almost too bad Fred Thompson didn’t stick around longer. We could have had the battle of the trophy wives.
Hey…anyone have any thoughts on the Ana Reyes story the Times did yesterday? So many letters to the editor in regards to it. We really really need to reform our immigration policies!
So who’s an idiot i-Burn – you keep believing your pal Lush Flimbaugh. And had I gotten home from work John I would have laid out the timeline. No need to defend me. I don’t require the services of traitors.
I gotta hand it to the old guy–despite white thinning hair, a paunch, and skin pastier than Elmer’s, McCain’s been able to maintain his marriage to a “trollop.”
Mike Hunt? Has anyone seen Mike Hunt?
@9 I did not twist his words. He implied that McCain divorced his wife because of her disfigurment. As you’ll note, I did mention the years that passed between the two events. There was no reason for BBG to even mention McCains first wife, except to make that implication.
So there you go. No need to defend the scum bucket, afterall.
@11 You know what you implied you fucking loony bastard. McCain, quite obviously didn’t divorce the woman because she was disfigured. But given any opportunity to spew slime, you will jump right the fuck on it. You want to dog the man for divorcing the man in the first place, fine. There still isn’t any reason to mention her disfigurement…except that you just can fucking help yourself.
proud leftist & I-Burn
Having kids out of wedlock is about the most sure-fire path to poverty around. What do you think about mandatory abortions for teenagers and others who can’t afford to have kids? After all, I sure as hell don’t wann pick up the tab for failures to plan birth control.
Oh, and if there is any doubt about what BBG meant, here are his own freaking words on the very same subject:
McCain left his first wife – having an affair – because she was disfigured in a car accident. found here: http://www.horsesass.org/?p=4476
Now, how you going to spin that one, dickweed? Yeah, that means you byebyegop…
Sorry, Mr. Minion, I should have known that your knowledge of Senator McCain’s biography was greater than mine.
How’s his campaign going, anyway?
Say “hello” to your boss, Mr. Esser, and tell him I said “thanks” for being the incompetent that he is. If it weren’t for his (and your) incompetence and inability to pour piss from a boot with instructions on the heel, we Democrats would have some problems keeping control of the State government.
If the Republicans ever replace the two of you with competent people, we’re in trouble. Fortunately, there’s little chance of that happening.
Gotta go now. Work to do, and I still have to study the position papers for Saturday’s county convention. Do they ask you Republicans to vote on your campaign platform, or do they just tell you what it is?
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I presume you are not serious about mandatory abortions for teens, but given your track record, who knows? You can call me a bleeding heart, but I will never blame a child for parental mistakes. If a parent cannot pay for a child’s basic needs, then we as a society must do so. If that means the government must step in, then so be it. Failure to take care of children means that we have no social bonds whatsoever, and any claim to being a nation with any moral bearing would be nonsense. This question isn’t close except for those who would reject any sense of community. I’d rather pay taxes to feed a stranger’s child than to pay taxes to disfigure a child in Iraq.
@16 – Better idea than forcing abotions….anyone who needs government assistance needs to follow strict guidelines:
1) Randon drug testing
2) The time allowed on government assistance should be limited to how much the person provides, after a period of time, these people should be required to work these “jobs Americans won’t work” that the illegals do. This will reduce the “need” for illegal immigrants to do the grunt work.
3) If you are on government assistance for 8 or more months a year, you should not be able to claim the earned income credit, it should be a base amount of income earned and federal taxes paid.
If we tighten the rules, people will eventually become more responsible in making choices of using birth control or not. Right now those who choose to be irresponsible look at the “benefits” of having children when they cannot afford to feed themselves.
I-Burn sounds angry, the kind of angry like my Johnny when he doesn’t get his way and he goes down to KFC and demands they take down the picture of Col.Sanders as it reminds him of Ho Chi Minn.
20#
Can we do the same for business welfare?
1)Random drug tests for all managers and CEOs.
2)If your on the public tough, what are we getting for it?Are there public costs from your product?
3) While on the public’s tab, all your capital gains will be taxed at 35%. Credits will be given for work that reduces CO2 production and sustainable industries.
@22 – I do think we need to tax our corporations here in Washington state, over a certain amount of net profit income. Large corporations love it here because of our tax structure!
Oh no, don’t do that. Ya all know I borrowed some of those happy pills while on that board and a drug test is just not for ‘my kind of people” right after my involvement with Keating.
Cindy
Have you ever thought of dropping JohnBoy? I’ve always dreamed of being with a blonde trollop who owns a beer distributorship. By the way, I’m a lot younger than JohnBoy and I don’t throw things at people.
@18 WTF? Sorry to disappoint your pre-conceived notion there, JB, but I could care less about John McCain. I won’t be voting for the man. I’m a LIBERTARIAN, not one of you statist tools. I just dislike partisan pinheads like bbg that distort anything and everything about an ideological opponent, simply because of their own prejudices. Especially when it comes to a vet, whether or not one agrees with their morals, or personality.
So you just go right on ahead making assumptions based on nothing at all. You dims are awfully good at that, afterall.
John McCain, while a true patriot, is on the wrong side of history regarding the Iraq War. This war is hurting America, hurting our military, tearing up military families and soldiers, it’s killing our economy, and it’s hurting our standing in the world.
Let’s be honest, Iraq, like Vietnam, was entered into under false pretenses. We will never leave honorably unless we leave honestly. And, that means, fessing up to the citizens of Iraq that we destroyed their country based on a lie and our fears. We need to leave small force, one that is large enough to provide some support and logistics to the Iraqi government, help them get their economy up and going and let them figure out how to resolve their ethnic divide.
That was the part of the “Pottery Barn” analysis that Colin Powell tried to explain to the president. There is such a deep ethnic strife in Iraq because of Saddam Hussein. No matter how that was ever going to unwind, when it eventually did there would be no stopping the bloodshed until they figure it out. We just happened to be the fools who let the genie out of the proverbial bottle.
Now we find ourselves in a true dilemma; as a moral country we can’t just leave those innocent people to the wolves that are the militias, a shattered society, and a devastated population with a massive internal and external refugee problem.
This NOT what the American GI is famous for. This is NOT how we built our laurels around the world. This situation in Iraq is FUBAR – Fucked Up Beyond All Repair.
Staying the course, or following John McCain is not in our nation’s best interest. We gave the Republicans a REAL try at governance. Their failures are now our failures and it’s time to let the other party govern.
It’s time for a change.
@21 Angry? Not a chance. This is great fun.
Tell your son, that while I admire and appreciate his service to the country, he really should have taken his marriage vows a bit more seriously. Divorce is hardly a cause of social stigma, as it once was, so he could easily have availed himself of one, prior to engaging in an extra-marital relationship.
I-Burn at too many to list:
McCain is of questionable morals and character. I don’t discount his service to this country. He was “hero” by happenstance, not actions. There are other sources both in print and on the web that confirm he left his wife partly due to the disfigurement. I won’t do your research for you. It is not hard to find.
BBGOP: just exactly how is John B. a traitor? Please, I anxiously await your documented reply.
Assholes!!
#6 proud leftist says:
Since you are judging that redneck is a drain on society, doesn’t that make you judgmental? According to your words, that would make you the scourge of society.
Your words to Redneck, did you offer anything besides bile and vitriol?
What a clown you have proven yourself to be. Your words, your actions.
@29 I have not defended McCains morals. I happen to agree with you.
However, in regards to your claim that his ex’s disfigurement was at least partially a factor in the divorce? I’ve not seen anything at all substantive that supports that. I actually just read a lengthy piece in the NY Times, hardly a bastion of Republican support, which didn’t even hint at such a thing.
So, if you know of proof otherwise, then I would like to see it.
As I’ve said, I’m not a McCain supporter, so I don’t really care either way. My interest is accuracy, really. And exposing bbg for the fool that he is, of course.
iBurn you can’t be serious – the disfigurement played NO PART? You’re as crazy as that traitor John Barelli. We’re sure McCain is above board. You act outraged. The fucker was having affairs. He admitted it. So we already know his word is shit. And if you want to try to convince your asshole buddy John Barelli that McCain just HAPPENED to leave a disfigured wife for a rich pretty one and that the original Mrs. McCain’s situation had nothing to do with it at all go for it. There’s nobody on this board that sees a shred of intellectual honesty in you anyway.
And John – as a traitor – have you worried what might happen when the Dems win it all? Are you worried that your work bending over for the republicans might put you in heat with the real patriots in the Democratic party?
By the way – how’s that real estate business going for you? Had any deals fall through lately? How about people who didn’t show up? You never know how your reputation might impact you here in Gig Harbor. I talk to lots of people here John. They don’t like traitors. They really don’t.
Actually, I am serious about mandatory abortions for teens and for people who can’t afford to have kids. I do not wish to pay for poor decisions on the part of some people who are bent on living a life of poverty.
I-Burn,
If you’re a Libertarian, will you be voting for Ron Paul in November?
I don’t think i-burn votes. As a ‘libertarian’ they are the party that talks about costs, but has no value.
@32 – You must not be able to read considering John Barelli has been campaigning for Obama. He has been recruiting volunteers for the Obama campaign. Just because he does not support Hillary (Psycho) Clinton such as yourself, does not make him a traitor.
Malcolm Muggeridge says:
I don’t think i-burn votes. As a ‘libertarian’ they are the party that talks about costs, but has no value.
Some would say that the Dems and Reps have a value less than zero, even when combined!
@12 Its easy when your a Republican we know where cocks
are supposed to go.
Into male congressional pages and dudes in the stall next to you, right?
Actually Hannah I support Obama too and you support McCain – just so everyone can know who is who.
As far as John’s support – yes he like you says he is a Dem but like you – runs to defend every traitor on the right he can. He’s trying to secretly destroy the Dem party by suggesting we get along with the republicans. The republicans are criminals – and John is as bad for wanting to work with them.
Senator Obama has convinced me that he won’t take shit from Rove-like GOP plants like John. That’s why I like him.
@39-PROVE IT! A few of us know we do not need people like you on our side if we want to take back the white house from the crooks. People like you tend to push the people on the fence to the evil side by telling them they are liars! Have you volunteered yet for the Obama campaign or is it all talk and no walk? I have been supporting Obama from day one unlike a lot of others who are now coming to his side. Show me where I said I was voting for McCain….
Hannah: ByeByeGop is upset his relatives are dying off early due to heart disease. You need to cut him some slack. He is the missing link:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,347052,00.html
Hannah: Earlier on HorsesAss ByeByeGOP posted as Left Turn, then he was RightEqualsStupid.
Well he is left. He continues to make wrong turns. He has NO equals. He is stupid. He’s never right!
John Barelli@9: I am shocked at your last sentence. I never would have expected that comment from you. After being with my wife for over 28 years, she is still MY TROPHY WIFE!
She still turns heads today and I love it!
@32 BBG, you truly do have talent, of a sort, I must confess. You’ve gone from thoroughly pissing me off with your utterly inane vitriol, to thoroughly boring the hell out of me…All in the space of a day. You are effectively a cipher: S/N=0
BTW, glad you feel free to speak for everyone else on HA. Megalomania, or simple stupidity?
@44 – I-Burn….BBG just has nothing to contribute when it comes to political debate, just slander and nothing more. Have you EVER seen a post by him that has anything worthwhile in it? No? Of course not! All he can do is bash people that show support for Obama. He has yet to volunteer on any campaign, has yet to provide any really intelligence or any factual data to support his accusations, just plain everyday BS.