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    You know, it’s people like that who make me think that heterosexuals should all be shot. But then, I’m a bigot.

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    Goldy why are you holding my comment back on thread #4103?

    Comment number is either 728419, 728421 or 728422.

    Too many truths on Hilary for you there? Too many truths on “overpaid” CEOs who Pelletizer loves to trash giving to her candidacy?

    Come on Goldy… You brag about how this is such an “open” site.

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    Clueless Gooberfool: I know you don’t read mens URLs and their issues cuz you not a man. Oh you have the physical equipment, just not the mental equipment. Men answer men in debates.

    When a man asks another man for his opinion they don’t slink away. I told headless 24/7 lucy I’ll discuss waterboarding if he’d fess up and tell us who he really is in life. I want to know why someone dislikes my people 24/7. I would never guess an Arizonian would be that way. I told you I’d discuss the Southern strategy if you would answer three simple questions? Yet neither of you take me up on my offers.

    Neither of you are real men. Can’t debate, run away for another day of worthless vacuous drivel and then act all pompous here. BTW Clueless Gooberfool, I never took the test. What was your score again. Ohhh… yes, I already know.

    I read Mens News Daily to learn how conservatives hold each other accountable. http://www.mensnewsdaily.com – See the brutha on the front cova.

    What do you read that holds donk accountable? Send me a URL in exchange. Don’t worry I already know the answer – “I don’t take orders from you”.

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    I got behind on my menial morons readings. mediamatters.org/items/200712210001

    Here is a funny. They castigate the NY Times, THE NEW YORK TIMES, for questioning about Clinton contributions. Next they use the useless canard of GHWBush got Saudi money.

    Puddystudy: The difference here is GHWBush was not running for an office anymore. GWB was not running for POTUS yet. Hilary is…

    And another thing in the thread #4103 I posted the big donors of Hilary and she’s right out front bashing them. She is such a hypocrite. Takes money from them and in public bashes them. So why is this different menial morons? Why doesn’t menial morons criticize her? She help start them…

    At the August 2006 YearlyKos Convention didn’t she admit to starting center for american progress and menial morons? Check this blog, check this blog, it’s here.

    Lately if you lefties have been paying attention, menial morons has been making public pronouncements running around in disassociate mode, distancing themselves from Hilary. But as we all know once YouTube has the video, the video can’t be retrieved.

    And we know menial morons receives funding from George Soros, who publicly pronounces he pays no income tax, has all of his investments in non-US Banks and wants to legalize some drugs. Yes, he’s Clueless Gooberfool’s hero!

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    Did I read last night Barack Obama will go into The NO SPIN ZONE? Why yes it’s on Crooks and Liars.

    Why is Crooks and Liars a favorite URL of the 16% afraid of Obama entering The NO SPIN ZONE? I think Obama is a smart man. He can asnwer why his operative blocked the Fox News cameraman, he can appeal to Republicans, and he can show up Hilary and John. Waaaaa haaaaaaaaa haaaaa haaaaaaaaaa haaaaaaaaa haaaaaaaaa haaaaaaa!

    Maybe Crooks and Liars, it’s what an Edwards or Clinton will have to do now?

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    Good morning PuddyPud. A little grumpy today, eh? I understand. As a Republican supporter and enabler of George W. Bush and the war crimes he commits daily you must find it difficult to look at your face in the mirror every morning.

    Hey Hey Puddy! How many people will your President torture today? Hey Hey Puddy! How many babies will your President kill today?

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    PIPER

    I’ll keep it simple for you today Piper:

    George W. Bush tortures people.
    George W. Bush kills civilians.
    George W. Bush is a war criminal.

    You support and enable George W. Bush.

    Therefore you, Piper, are personally responsible for the torture and killing and war crimes of George W. Bush.
    Because without the support of people like you
    PuddyPud Piper George W. Bush would have to stop the torture and killing and war crimes.

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    What the heck? Jesse Jackson Jr grew some stones? He was on http://www.wlsam.com/ Chicago BlowTorch WLS on the Don Wade and Roma show: From L-N

    Congressman Jackson: Well you know it’s becoming two on one, and this… Ok, I’m going to get myself into trouble because I am going to criticize the media. There’s nothing in the world like running for congress, or running for the senate or running for the presidency. It’s enough to wake up every morning worrying about what your opponents are going to think. But the fact that you are sharing the stage in terms of the media, and the conversation in terms of the media with someone who’s not even in the contest, the former President of the United States who has the capacity to draw his own media and create his own story.

    So Barack Obama has to respond to everything Clinton says because the media is ranked with “you know what the former President of the United States said about you today”. That’s going to create a story the next day. Remember there’s only 5 days between these elections. So you are responding to Bill Clinton while Hillary is sitting around at a uh, Mrs. Clinton is sitting around you know at a Deli or …

    Roma: Weeping.

    Don Wade: Yeah, with tears.

    Congressman Jaskson: Right, right. So she gets to talk with voters and have these sensitive moments while Barack is in a free for all fight with the former President of the United States. The media just needs to tell him to butt out!”

    Remember this? Naaah… you all are liberals:

    http://www.swamppolitics.com/n.....for_b.html

    But didn’t Jesse Jackson Sr say this:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/.....64999.html

    Jesse Jackson Sr. “”acting like he’s white””

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    Thursday, January 10, 2008

    IT’S OK IF YOU’RE A PENIS-AMERICAN

    New York Times campaign coverage:

    … “We’re going to make sure this state gets on the move again,” Mr. Romney said. “I care about Michigan. For me, it’s personal. It’s personal for me because it’s where I was born and raised.”

    Earlier in the day, after hearing from a voter who recalled his father, Mr. Romney choked up momentarily, according to a pool reporter who was present. “He was a great man, and I miss him dearly,” Mr. Romney said….

    What? Romney “choked up”?

    HE FAKED IT! HE PLANTED THE QUESTION! ANYONE WHO VOTES FOR HIM IN MICHIGAN AFTER THIS IS JUST LETTING EMOTION SUBSTITUTE FOR COMMON SENSE! WE’RE AT WAR — IS THIS HOW HE’LL TALK TO KIM JONG-IL?
    http://nomoremister.blogspot.c.....-york.html

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    From the World Can’t Wait group. Link at bottom.

    While the attention of the people is being diverted toward who can best run the US empire after Bush – with “hope,” “experience,” “Mac is Back,” or theocratic huckstering – there are questions that beg to be asked:

    If openly torturing people, justifying and lying about it, then destroying the evidence, is not impeachable, then WHAT IS?

    If a disastrous occupation being waged on the basis of lies, doesn’t require the people to drive the Bush administration from power, then WHAT DOES?
    IMPEACH the WAR CRIMINALS!

    * The Democratic leadership says impeachment is “off the table” but it keeps coming up. Former senator George McGovern was interviewed yesterday on NPR after he wrote in the Washington Post Sunday under a remarkable headline Why I Believe Bush Must Go: Nixon Was Bad. These Guys Are Worse.
    * Why would a 60 year old self-described “believer in the system” walk from Boston to Washington DC in the winter to demand the impeacment of Bush & Cheney? John Nirenberg arrives at the Capitol Saturday. Find out more here.
    * IF you sign the petition demanding hearings on Cheney’s impeachment and send it to people you know now, there will be 250,000 names, which is the number Rep. Robert Wexler says he wants to take to Congress next week.

    As we said In supplementing our Call to Drive out the Bush Regime, “Only people highly mobilized and motivated by values that repudiate unjust war, bigotry and greed can bring the Bush agenda to a halt.” Only the people who will not remain silent when their government tortures, terrorizes whole peoples, and moves to quash dissent and critical thinking can change the course of history.
    http://www.worldcantwait.net/i.....Itemid=223

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    Republican Porn Demonstration at Westlake today

    **FRI JAN 11, 3 pm, at Westlake Plaza, 4th & Pine,
    Seattle; Join the Seattle Chapter of World Can’t Wait,
    Drive Out the Bush Regime in Seattle for a demonstration of
    the TORTURE TECHNIQUE “WATERBOARDING”, which is being used
    by the U.S.in violation of international law. Participants
    will then join the 4 pm event, same location.

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    Your delicious irony of the day comes from Florida and Indiana. The litigant who is trying to kill off Indiana’s voter ID law is a walking, talking case of potential voter fraud. She certainly appears to have broken the law by registering to vote in both Indiana and Florida, and by claiming homestead tax exemption in both states. But let’s re-write the law so she doesn’t have to provide proper ID before voting!

    The cherry on the irony is when the Supremes asked the dimocrap party lawyer what the hell gthey were doing there…

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    puddy you are so funny. mensnewsdaily, a bunch of losers who nothing else to do but worry about the evils of feminism.
    You guys must sit around all day and watch SpikeTV, the network for wimps.

    Part Deux. How evil is the GOP? John McCain said last week that he would like to see Americans dying in Iraq for another hundred years.

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    @24 Puddy will really get off on this:

    One of the arguments warmongers gave for overthrowing Saddam Hussein was that his regime was responsible for the violent deaths of some 300,000 civilians between 1968 and 2003. That estimate now appears exaggerated, since the number of bodies in mass graves has not borne it out. But what is tragic is that in 4 1/2 short years, a foreign military occupation has unleashed killing on a scale achieved by the murderous Saddam Hussein regime only over decades. Bush did not kill all those people directly, of course, but he did indirectly cause them to be killed, since these are excess deaths beyond what you would have expected if there had been no invasion and occupation.

    I am often struck by how clueless the American public is to the vast destruction we have wrought on Iraq and its people, directly or indirectly. It strikes me as a bitter joke that 4 million are displaced, often facing hunger and disease, and the rightwing periodicals and presidential candidates are talking about how the “surge” has “turned things around.” For whom? How many orphans have we created? How many widows? How many people who weep and cry every night while trying to fall asleep on straw mats? I estimate on the basis of a UN study of refugees in Syria that as many as 600,000 or 700,000 Baghdadis were ethnically cleansed from the capital under the nose of the American troops implementing the surge.

    http://www.juancole.com/2008/0.....lians.html

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    Here is the Seattle Times report from 2001 on the accident the video covers.

    Politician, bus driver: 2 versions collide (Seattle Times 2001)

    By Caitlin Cleary

    Seattle Times staff reporter

    Nearly two months after Metropolitan King County Councilwoman Jane Hague collided with a Metro bus while driving in downtown Seattle, contrasting stories have cropped up.

    Witnesses say Hague ran a red light without looking for or yielding to oncoming traffic, crashing into the side of a Metro bus.

    The bus driver reported Hague was reluctant to give information to him and pulled rank with him and the other witnesses, accusing them of ganging up on her.

    Hague, R-Bellevue, denies their version of events, and questions the timing and release of such information to the press.

    According to the Metro accident report of May 29, the bus was running the outbound 66 route, driving east on Olive Way. Hague’s 1996 Ford Explorer was stopped in the crosswalk of a traffic signal at Fourth Avenue. Witnesses say Hague pulled out quickly to make a right turn onto Olive and drove into the right side of the bus, behind the front-door frame. The driver reported sounding his horn and stepping on the brakes before impact.

    “I do not agree with the driver’s account,” Hague said yesterday. “This is not unusual in the case of a traffic accident.”

    According to the Metro driver’s report, after the accident Hague said to him, “You know it’s your fault, don’t you?” The driver replied, “No, I don’t see it that way.”

    The driver reported Hague asking, “How do you see it?” and then informing him of her position, saying, “Do you know that I’m your King County councilwoman?”

    The driver said Hague demanded his license but didn’t want to give him hers. When witnesses stepped forward and corroborated the driver’s version of events, Hague protested that she was being ganged up on, “to make sure that this accident would appear to be my fault.”

    Hague said yesterday her statements to the driver after the accident had been mischaracterized. She denied she had tried to intimidate him or transit officials who came shortly after.

    Hague, who is running for re-election, called it “highly unusual” to see “such explicit personality issues raised in the course of a pro-forma traffic report.

    “I find it interesting that misinformation regarding this accident was proactively transmitted to several members of the media over the last two weeks. As this event occurred almost two months ago, I must question the motives and timing of this story.”

    The left front fender, headlight and bumper of Hague’s vehicle were damaged.

    She said she had shoulder pain but declined medical attention. There was no police investigation into the accident.

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    Glenn Greenwald asks:

    “The reason we basically block out from our public discourse the effects our behavior has on innocent human beings — the reason, for instance, we don’t bother to count Iraqi victims and the reason we exempt our own behavior from any sort of scrutiny other than the most self-absorbed — is because that’s the only way that the propaganda can be sustained (“Freedom is on the March. We’re Liberating Them. They’re so Grateful. Winning Hearts and Minds”). Is there anyone who could make a list of all of the pros and cons from our invasion of Iraq and — while including the hundreds of thousands of innocent dead human beings and the 4 million who are displaced — argue that it was worth it? What kind of moral depravity would allow that argument to be made?”

    C’mon PuddyPud and The Piper argue that the war in Iraq is worth it.

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    More Republican Porn

    Of the six candidates, only Ron Paul said he thought the incident was being blown out of proportion.

    “Let’s put it in perspective. We have five small speedboats attacking the U.S. Navy with a Destroyer? They could take care of those speedboats in about five seconds. And here we’re ready to start World War III over this? . . . . You know there are people in this administration and in Washington, D.C., that are looking for the chance” to bomb Iran, the 10-term Texas congressman said.

    “I’m worrying about the policy of why we’re looking for a justification . . . . I mean, we’re already, with our CIA, being involved in trying to overthrow that government, and we don’t need another war. And this incident should not be thrown out of proportion to the point where we’re getting ready to attack Iran over this,” Paul said.

    Romney responded to that claim by saying, “I think Congressman Paul should not be reading as many of (Iranian President Mahmoud) Ahmadinejad’s press releases.

    http://blogs.tnr.com/tnr/blogs.....solid.aspx

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    Puddybud,

    “Goldy why are you holding my comment back on thread #4103? Comment number is either 728419, 728421 or 728422.”

    The comment is deleted because you forgot to close a bold tag. The spam filter software doesn’t allow me to edit comments before approving them, so I would have had to approve the comment, hunt it down, and then correct it (so that your comment doesn’t mess up the rest of the comment thread.)

    BTW: It had nothing to do with the comment content…I didn’t even read it besides recognizing it as a real comment (there were over 100 spams I was scanning through at the time). And it wasn’t about you…SeattleJew lost a comment for the same reason yesterday—he left an italics tag unclosed.

    Kindly use the preview function to avoid such problems in the future.

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    Puddy considering the insane stuff you post on this site it should be clear to you that you are not censored. I often wonder why you don’t post on rightwing suites but apparently that wouldn’t meet your emotional needs. At any rate: Hey Hey Puddy! How many people will your President torture today? Hey hey Puddy how many babies will your President kill today? He dropped 40,000 pounds of bombs on the good citizens of Iraq yesterday. Think Puddy THINK! If this was happening in your neighborhood would you feel grateful?

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    Voting as a fundamental right, from http://www.law.umkc.edu/facult.....ights.html (University of Missouri Kansas City School of Law).

    The right to vote is the fundamental right that has been the source of the most significant Supreme Court litigation. The Constitution addresses voting in Article II and four subsequent amendments (the 15th, forbidding discrimination in voting on the basis “of race, color, or previous condition of servitude;” the 19th, forbidding discrimination in voting based on sex; the 24th, prohibiting “any poll tax” on a person before they can vote; and the 26th, granting the right to vote to all citizens over the age of 18). The Court has chosen to also strictly scrutinize restrictions on voting other than those specifically prohibited by the Constitution because, in its words, the right to vote “is preservative of other basic civil and political rights.” It should be noted, however, that “strict scutiny” in the fundamental rights cases tends to be, in actual practice a little less strict than in suspect classifications cases. The Court, for example, has upheld reasonable (e.g., 50-day) residency restrictions on voting and state laws denying the vote to convicted felons, as well as age and citizenship requirements.

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    “The Court, for example, has upheld reasonable (e.g., 50-day) residency restrictions on voting and state laws denying the vote to convicted felons, as well as age and citizenship requirements.”

    Precisely my point. And Indiana’s.

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    So Daddy Love: Twin State Voting is a fundamental right?

    Maybe that’s what the 40,000 snowbirds identified by the NY Daily News for 2004 POTUS election thought too.

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    Fundamental is in the mind of the beholder. So is ‘undue.’ So is ‘burden.’ To repeat, Constitutional rights and constitutions are products of negotiation. Read about legislatures negotiating the suffrage amendment of 1919-1920: Went down to the wire in Tennessee with votes being traded for Tennessee mash.

    The right to vote is so unfundamental that states and districts set rules (that may or may not be subject to the invented right of judicial review.) That’s why pro-Bush overseas military ballots in Florida/2000 were discarded: Florida had set rules about postmarks and date-of-receipt. Otherwise valid ballots were posted or received too late to be counted. Was a fundamental right abrogated for Floridians vacationing in Clinton’s Kosovo? Was a postmark an undue burden?

    Or how about this? Have heard that some municipalities in some elections permit everybody and everybody’s dog to vote. Mere residency in a bounded district is the only requirement. Citizenship is not. If Indiana’s feeble attempt to ascertain citizenship is an ‘undue burden,’ as you assert, then maybe the Constitutional requirement of citizenship is also an undue burden.

    In Maine, the Help Democrats Vote Act lets incarcerated felons vote. In our state there are a few hoops thru which released felons must crawl to regain their fundamental right to vote. Are our hoops undue burdens? Are the 49 states that attempt to cull dead voters and disfranchised felons from voter lists making undue burdens for the corpses who put LBJ in the Senate and JFK in the White House?

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    To Perfect Voter…I have known that family for a number of years so two weeks to make a little entertaining video does not constitute too much time…

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